Autocar UK reviews the epic new Chinese Voyah Free EV
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- Autocar UK reviews the epic new Chinese Voyah Free EV
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to be fair, Voyah is a subsidiary brand of Dongfeng Motor, one of the automotive giants in China. So no surprise there if it is good.
My dear old Dad, GOD rest his soul, gave me a great piece of advice when I was but a kid, Sam. 😉 He said, son, never ever, argue with a “Mug” …!! 😉. It’s a great piece of advice that has stood me in good stead, all through my life, and I’m glad to hear that you, are also, following the same advice. 😉👍
Tested this one after I asked my Peugeot dealer which EV I should get to replace it (3008). “Comes from the same manufacturer so it drives like a Peugeot which is their benchmark. High quality as you have experienced with your Pug. Go ahead and test drive it you will like it. “ He was right, I liked it even better than NIO ES6.
Sorry... So this is already in the UK for test drives? Would you mind telling me which garage that was thank you ... So are Peugeot importing them
@@gregchristie2763 In Shenzhen, China.
I’ll buy one without a rest drive. I know with EV, the reliability will not be an issue. No more problem with oil leaks, radiator leaks, blown gasket etc.
Hi Sam
I've had this on my mind for awhile and after seeing your recent video 5am this morning: Voyeh Free EV - UK Bound I had to finally put pen to paper so to speaking … When I read a lot of EV reviews or watch YT
videos mostly yours I hasten to add … The UK journalist in my view are very positive and this was also the case with the Ora Cat 01… I do at times think you are overly positive. I remember you stating in one of your videos that the UK will be getting the Ora Cat 01 in January … I thought to myself that’s never going to happen… I found out about this car in Nov 2021, signed up to the company official UK website which is limited in it’s depth of information, in fact you tend to have more information than the official European website. After several months I received a basic email asking potential customers what colour combinations do you like and that was it … After anxiously awaiting information this is all we received. Now, 5 months down the road nothing from a company that was boasting of opening pre-orders in Jan 2022 which never happened. I’ve even heard that there’s a test drive vehicle soon to be available for journalist I’m sure which is going to be a left hand drive variant! Similar practice I believe you guys experienced with the BYD Atto 3. We do have a decent level of choice with 172 EV cars available in the UK but that will represent many models from each brand. I just checked our best resource: EV Database .uk and we have 10 new EV models coming available 2022 alone which is good. Though I enjoy all the news about the Chinese market and I would love to have the option of purchasing BYD Han - especially convertible if produced, Nio ET5, and my favourite X-Peng P7 but we won’t see any of those cars here any time soon… That said BYD are impressive with their factory build expansion plans and even rumours of a factory in Thailand I believe to build righthand drive variants. Ora may purchase an old auto plant in Spain to manufacture the European market vehicles apparently but I won’t be holding my breath. In conclusion, I don’t hold much confidence Voyah Free EV reaching these shores any time soon say within 2 years if at all… However, I will post again if I am Happily proved wrong!
Kind Regards - StanDMan London UK
Didn't Autocar test the range extender version, not the pure EV? The video strangely states "because there is no motor".
Looks like it could be a Lincoln or Volvo. We need more EVs in that shape.
I'm from the UK and didn't know this car was coming here. Until now. Sam how do you know about this review when I don't? The reason I'm asking is because I'm subscribed to Autocar and have had nothing come out about this car. And I specifically ticked all reviews about EV's. I've also gone onto their website and still can't find this review 🤷
Hi thanks always good to hear the different things you bring us Cheers to you and the boys
The test will be how these age over time. Reliability and availability of repairs. If it is designed like a Tesla under the hood no problem. If Ford designed it big problem.
My wife's grandfather referred to Ford as "fix or repair daily". Arrogant and entitled brats and bureaucrats like Henry Ford II aka "Henry, the Deuce" ruined the company.
这车与福特毫无关系，它是中国国有企业东风汽车设计制造的
Yes I would buy one. It’s a great looking car.
Looks awesome and would definately purchase. Worry factor would be non established after sales and service but EV's have shown their reliability over ICE cars!
Specialist car magazines are OK. But the journalists working for the broadsheets and tabloid newspapers are sticking with BMW, VW and Mercedes - no doubts they get kickbacks
Hi EV. Interestingly, the thing that brought me here was a Norwegian advert for this car. Why, because they hired AURORA to do the add. They wisely picked up on AURORA'S Green feelings and the song of hers fits nicely with a car advert.
Powerful & SUV midsize... sounds like it's made for US and not Europe
When is it likely to hit the Aussie market, if at all?
Looks amazing! More plush than any European car, better tech than Tesla. Agree with Craig below - FSD is worth nothing to me, I like to drive.
Yes but if it keeps you from a crash it is worth it
@@b4804514 Maybe, but I've been driving 50 years and never had a crash. I'll back myself to do that for another 20. I never feel anxious about having an accident when I'm in control. But whenever I drive a car with auto pilot features (not just Tesla) I'm totally stressed out by ghost braking, late braking and lane drift. I just want to relax and enjoy the drive, not play "driving instructor" to an wayward AI system ;-)
So far my eyes working with my brain have proven to be much more reliable than any neural processor coupled with cameras/radars etc.
The problem with AI, as I see it, is it only responds to changes in its current environment, but doesn't anticipate what may change in the situation ahead. Anticipation is a basic skill that all new drivers are taught if thay have a good teacher. But imagining the future is a distinctly human behaviour. For example, when I see a child running from their front yard towards the road I will anticipate a worst case scenario where they run out onto the road, and reduce my speed. The FSD vehicle will only react after the child steps on the road and then brake violently. I know which response I prefer and would argue is safer.
@@MarksElectricLife Father time is undefeated. You THINK you can drive safely for another 20 years, but you do not know that, period. If you've been driving 50 years I'd guess you're roughly 65-66 right now... even 10 years from now when you're 75-76, FSD will be exponentially safer than you, by a wide margin. You cannot fight this fact. It is coming :)
@@thestonksmarket1897 No argument that my skills will diminish, however the onus is on FSD developers to prove they can out-perform me at any age. Right now I would say they can out perform an intoxicated driver and so perhaps there should be circuit in the vehicle that forces you to use FSD when your BAC is over a certain limit. Down the track (maybe before I reach 80) the neural processor will become a quantum computer. IMO that is the only thing that could "imagine" all scenarios in the real world, compute their probability and choose/execute the safest response (what a human brain does all day long).
Damn.... for France.... First the Polestar with it's logo blocked. Now this one will be blocked too because of the mobile provider in France being called "Free" as well....
As Steven Jones comments many times here, the car tested is a hybrid (well a range extender, i.e engine drives generator). Do some research Sam.
The review states….
Key to the brand’s success in Europe will be Voyah’s focus on electrified drivetrains. The FREE is available as a full battery electric vehicle or a range-extender EV. In the REV, which we drove, a 1.5-litre turbocharged engine charges a 33kW battery. Total range here is 534 miles on the NEDC cycle, 87 of which are pure electric. By comparison, the full EV can travel around 300 miles, dependent on if you specify single or double motors.
The only thing that would worry anyone who thinks about buying any Chinese car would be the trade in prices. These are going to take a while to get a good reputation, I remember how long Skoda took to get people to stop joking about their cars.
Well I suppose the combination of long warranty and lower intro prices are there as incentives. With inflation coming in, prices in Australia are increasing across all brands, including Chinese ones. So think about it, just don't take too long!
The BEST part is that it’s FREE!!!!! WHEN is mine coming??? The interior is insane!
Haha, just like the mobile provider "Free" in france. not actually free ;)
@@alexl7015 * Only free in socialist countries! Lmao!
Sam. Good video. However, the big question is " what is behind that midget door?". Is it a secret midget entrance to an ompa loompa paradise? And are they pulling all their power from that dirty PowerPoint? We need answers.
I hope they sell them in Australia. I would definitely buy one.
I honestly can't wait to see if these Chinese EV's will make it to the US market.
Keep waiting. They will be sold under Toyota, Gm and other oem brands. The first true all Chinese cars will most likely be built in the states to avoid Tariffs.
The Chinese EV cars will be highly succesful on the Western market, as they have TRADITIONAL SHAPED ONES ( MG/ VOYAH FREE/ BYD) , futuristic shaped (NIO/ X PENG/ Xphi) and NEO-RETRO cars ( Geely/ Hongqin) Thereby they go for the highly profitable middle class carmarket (40-60.000 euro). There will be pain for the WESTERN CAR INDUSTRY.
People are more sceptical about Chinese cars than you factor in. 1: Political reasons
2: The software and hardware still has to many issues.
3: Brand loyalty
4: Servicing
@@Harrythehun Political reasons? When you do not have a factory in US/ EU, you do have to pay import levies on the cars. Software issues? BOTH PROBLEMS HAVE INDEED DELAYED THE RISE OF CHINESE EV'S. BUT IT SEEMS THAT NOW IS THE MOMENT. (THE CLEVER CHINESE HAVE LEARNED FROM TESLA AND HAVE CONSEQUENTLY IMPROVED THEIR PRODUCTS)
@@marcionphilologos5367 The Chinese will be hit if they grow to big. Look what US and EU did to Huawei, Huawei got to big and to cocky to fast.
@@Harrythehun If you like it or not the future is without doubt for CHINESE SOCIALISM, The West is still divided between nationalist and globalist, capitalist and socialist, traditionalist and materialist. The EU will stagnate because of too much green socialism, the US of too much liberal capitalism........
@@Harrythehun Agree with most of your points except for #2.
Where did you get this impression that Chinese EV's software and hardware "still have too many problems" ?
A weird detail that I've noticed now in a number of chinese cars is the circular steering wheel centers.
Personally I don't like the look, but it's seems to be everywhere in their cars.
You are 110% correct Sam. I predict that the Chinese car makers will do to the US auto industry what the Japanese car makers did to the US auto industry in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. MAYBE Ford will squeak through.
Chinese brands will go global but they will need partners and they will need to pay tarriffs to come to north america. So it won't be a breeze like you are predicting
100% agree
Then they won't be sold in the North American market. And it's their public that will be the real losers...
I seriously like the Exteriors of these Chinese Cars , NIO being my favourite
IDK from where they have hired the Engineers & Designers
I feel the display placement would've been better ....I mean Long stretched display has zero purpose
But they are fuching killing with their ART....
Now only thing remains is the Long term Performance
Wonder if it will be LFP cells or not..
that is how clean all dash should be.....enough of the migraine causing too busy dashboards
I like the quieter voice on this one. Yer, ill buy one, in ten years, when they are cheaper and probably lost half their range, although ill probably buy a yacht first, can't see these cars ever being cheap...glad I've lived to finally see cars that I was waiting for - apart from the hovver conversion, still waiting for that. Love the design. Does anyone really want FSD? Apart from the pose factor, really, I like to drive. This is what cars should be like.
When do we get here in the banana Republic?
@craig me - Buy the yacht first. I have heard that there are lots of Russian luxury yachts for sale right now :)
@@johannbrauer9285 yer I actually plan to, but not Russian. Much cheaper than an electric car...
one correction: that 690Hps power is only for the hybrid version（REEV）
I’ve seen these in China and they really look well built and a bit different from the traditional German SUVs, I think they will sell pretty well
You forgot the most important question. Does it have a frunk? 😀 Looks very nice and you're right, the Chinese are coming.
How are the software in this Chinese cars ?
The tested car is a ree Range extended According the article
Definitely looks like a rip off of many Volvo designs. I love the interior though.
If it's going to UK right hand drive what about Australia and NZ?
What's not to like? Legacy brands have become complacent and don't deserve my business.
Looking good. Its could be a hidden gem, the Ev market is coming out with some exciting new vehicles 👍
Great job, mate.
At the high price point people will opt for the Mercedes or BMW even if the Chinese ev is much better. That's how people are... Badge snobbery trumps unknown brand every time. If the Chinese target these cars against EVs from Kia and Hyundai they will come out winning. I would certainly buy one of these EVs.
中国汽车现阶段的品质还无法同现在起亚相比，不过中国汽车的进步比较快。
I would take a chance on this if it Where 35 k Us. I hope the 3 screens are Easily swapped out. The Motorized lifting dash is a bad idea. The car you are looking at is not the base SUV.
The Free looks fantastic. For 50 to 60k Us. I will take the proven Y.
I would be seriously concerned if the engine noise was discernible!
I personally hate the big grille bling of so many Chinese styles. Ora have a much more European/U.K. centric design language.
厂家在这部车的设计中并没有突出中国元素，那硕大的格栅也并不是中国风格
Will they be able to provide the repair information, parts and service both in the short and long term? If it breaks down and can’t be repaired for months or ever, it is no good to man nor beast.
Repair information/parts/service prices? Are you kidding?Do you ever heard anything like that from any Chinese car seller? By the way, in case, are you ready to fight about any complains about your chinacar against the Chinese Communist Party? And where, in Tien An Men square?
@@albertodantonio2075
Chinese vehicles are cheapish disposable items very much like ‘whitegoods’ where major repair is irrelevant.
If it was 300miles WLTP or EPA I would consider it. But NEDC means it is closer to 200 WLTP which is roughly 150 moterway driving. I like it otherwise 200 motorway range is vital I think and happy to pay an extra £10k for it.
At £40k it would sell like hotcakes in UK .. but I bet a pound to a pinch of s*** they will sell it for what they think they can get.. about 55k... We always get ripped off like this in the UK.. the only way the prices come down is with competition... So hopefully the Chinese will flood the market with cheap EVs 🙏
All the talk of legacy auto unable to compete with Tesla, how is Tesla going to compete with the Chinese manufacturers once they start selling outside of China? From what was presented I would rather have a Voyah than a Model Y. If I calculated correctly the Voyah will sell for $52,000. In the US the cheapest Tesla Y sells for $63,000! Will Tesla be uncompetitive compared to Chinese EV's?
When all 4 Tesla factories are running at maximum output, they will drop prices dramatically, otherwise what’s the point of having the biggest/advanced factories in the world if you can’t sell them at the same rate(until robotaxi’s are mainstream and real).
ummmm thats 80k aus?////
I bet they don't call it the Free in China.
They do! In case you don’t know, the freedom in China is no worse than that in the US or other “democratic “ countries.
"made in china" is supposed to throw away after using couple of times
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nice i would own one
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The Voyah Free and the Huawei SF5 are the same vehicles, just rebadged. The Huawei implementation of the lane assist is abysmal.
The effective range much lower than advertised. Volkswagen ID6 and ID4 are definitely the better hardware and software combination. Even so the ID series screens are too small compared to the Chinese competitors.
Hopefully these EVs will open the flood gates for the massive variety of Quality EVs made in China today.
Again - EVs are NOT racing against each other for dominace. EVs are racing against US as we continue to pollute. Our saving grace will be the broad use of EVs all around the planet.
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Too expensive for normal people
cant you buy a tesla cheaper
I just don't like its name. Free is not free. Free is expensive.
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