Forgiveness and reconciliation are two distinct concepts. Forgiveness is essential, while reconciliation is optional. You can choose to forgive someone and move on, especially if you no longer have the willingness or desire to reconcile with that person. Forgiveness is a necessity, not a choice, but reconciliation depends on the circumstances. This applies to all situations, including betrayal. For example, if a friend steals from you, forgiveness is crucial for your own peace of mind, and you have the right to end the friendship without holding on to resentment. You can choose to let go of the past, drop the charges, and move forward with your life. It’s important to recognize that unforgiveness can block your relationship with God, who forgives us daily. Holding on to bitterness hinders our connection with Him.
The scripture are very clear; Matthew 5:32 says , But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery. This clearly shows there is no justification in keeping an adulterous woman because by remaining married to her you are also committing adultery even if you forgive her.
@@simonnhunzvi4662 1 Corinthians 6:16- ; Don't you know that anyone joined to a prostitute is one body with her? For scripture says, The two will become one flesh.
@@nyashatamayi4972he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman who had sinned but the hypocrites did. It is justified to leave her, I did not see where it says it's a must. Even though it's perfectly justified and no one will blame you. Most men agree to that option but it is not necessarily a must
Both preachers are saying the same thing from the way l hear it, but the only diffrence is Madam Chiwenga is explaining as a Grade 5 student where we used to say IT CAN'T in maths , but Prof Makandiwa is taking it at University level where we say IT CAN,, prof Makandiwa,s explanation and understanding is more advanced than our primary student Mama Chiwenga
Makandiwa is doing church business so he tries by all means to accommodate more followers by going against the bible. Makandiwa never preaches about repentance and salvation because he is a charlatan a typical false prophet. Chiwenga is preaching true gospel of repentance and salvation. Chiwenga is right Makandiwa igava.
Understanding the difference on divorce and forgiveness is key here .Divorcing is not unforgiveness.but a decision based on principle.Forgiveness does not mean overlooking adultery committed and remain married.
“Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool.Isaiah 1:18
@@TatendaMangemba Kurwadziwa nei wangu, Chiwenga has absolutely no relevance in my life, he is not my league & therz nothing to admire abt him...anongopengereka uya!
Mukangoziwa kuti mahure epatouchline arikupromotewa nemamaried man not boys then kudenga Hakuna anoenda😂. Mobvamaziwa kuti mahure arikuchvana ne chihure asi waridzi Wana baba wachikundikana moziwa kuti hapana kwatirikuenda.
The scripture appears to me to be empowering rather than mandatory. It's not safe to reach a conclusion on the matter on the basis of one verse; each man must give us one or two more verses to support their views. We are waiting for Round 2.
You can just tell kuti vanhu varikuti Makandiwa what hee Makandiwa that, its either vanhu veku JRM who inherited grudge or munhu akahurirwa ane bitterness..I truly i understand but emotions aside carefully listen to what Emmanuel is saying. He is totally in agreement with the scriptures, kuti ukahurirwa u are justified to go through divorce. Akuna kunzi garai nevakadzi vamabata vachihura no!..but he is now taking it further to teach people the art of forgiveness. If God himself can forgive, can't you also forgive & make amendments? There is nothing wrong in forgiving a cheating wife & continue living together, it's not a weakness..that IF YOU CAN, akuna kunzi its must.. Yooh vanhu i know u hate this man, but please zvimwe zvacho ka uhmmm!
Imagine some of these people do not realize that the reason they grew up with the warmth of both parents is not because their parents were faithful, but because their parents exercised forgiveness on each other and reconciled. The issue is two sided and Prophet Makandiwa just chose to provide both the sides. Thank you
Ehe mukadzi wako akakudyisa Haisi mhosva yako. Dakutomukwira mangwana futi waenda kubasa. Forgive her as many times as you can isu we will keep doing her good. Iwe uchimukisser kuno anenge abva kudya Nzvonyo dzedu. Makandiwa once sold 1 brick for $10 and told his congregants you shall build a house. This man a scammer
I think most people are missing the point here, issue is forgiveness and taking your wife back is optional, devoicing her is not a must though most if us men can agree that it's the best option. Now saying kuti if one chooses to forgive and take back the wife kuremara or anything is not scriptural and not true coz God forgives anyone nonmatter the sin, adultery, phonication, murder even ma satanist when they repent God will welcome them back with love. So if God can forgive then we also can forgive and God does not judge for choosing to forgive, only men can judge you and call you names just like Chiwenga
@@Takas-p9p that's not what the scripture says," Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery” (Matt 19:8-9, NIV). So here Jesus did not say its a must but rather divorce is permitted in such a circumstance.
Zigo We are waiting for that year , pachabuda mukadziwako anzwa nekurara nevamwe varume ,uchishandira mukadzi iyeye. Gore iroro I will come back here and remind you to forgive her. I hope God will use you to prove how as man we should forgive our cheating wives.
I don't actively follow either of them hangu, but Prophet EM vari correct. You can divorce but its not a must to do so. Forgiveness is required from you kunyange watadzirwa zvemhando ipi.
This forgiveness mantra borders on hypocrisy. Mubvunzei Manu kuti mukadzi wake akatorwa naBalthazar anoregerera here iye pachake. Chiwenga is being realistic simple
Again we have Pipo like u who hate for no reason, Makandiwa never said forgiving her is a MUST, if he himself chooses to forgive her, then thats his choice. There is nothing wrong with that even after delivering this sermon. Do u even understand at all
Can we say there is an unforgivable ? Batai sense iripo you forgive the wife who had committed adultery but you are free not to take her back! Forgiving does not mean you take her back, its depends on individual one can Forgive and take her back or Forgive and not take her back
Ko nhayi Zigo zvaunodotsanangura zvinohwikwa kudarika madam Chiwenga vachiri pasi pemurairo avo vanodzidzisa an Eye for an Eye in this dispensation, so shocking.thats why kuurayana kurikunyanya if paita ma disagrements in marriages, vanoteerera dzidziso dziri so violent, dangerous and poisinous, if u choose kumuramba thats all if wa chooser kumuregerera thats it, ko zvekuti uraaayaaa vose ndochii ichocho. 1.Unofira mujere 2.Vana vosara vachitambura 3.Waunza ngozi mumusha, unopedzesa dzinza, nezvimharidzo zvakatsauka izvi
Zigo ari wako ahura uno muregerera here ukwane usade kushingisa vamwe mukadzi aka hura anoenda kumba kwavo asi huroi unogadzirisiwa zvopera chiri muruoko chinoraswa chiri mumoyo hachi raswe ari wako uno nzwa sei ukwane ndiri mukadzi asi ndino kukunda kufunga
Hurirwa ka iwe uone ka kuti unomutora here ? Jesus to allow divorce her for a reason . Do remember the story of David and Uriah’s Wife and the complications thereafter and How Angry God was he didn’t forgive David there he actually punished him
Haaaa Zigo uchanzi uri chidhakwa futi🤣🤣 Ya Gomer was a symbolic action and a dramatic message to Israel for Spiritual adultery, so God was using that Drama to preach to his Wife Israel that's why the name of the Kids were unique name like "Not pitted, Not my people" So i think, you wanted to say God forgives Israel though Israel committed adultery
I think for all, this is an unnecessary debate. Because God looks at people's hearts and true repentance. David was still God's servant even after the sin of Bathsheba. When we sin, we fall short of his glory, but when we repent, we become new. He cleans us from our sins. We are just making everything fixed towards whatever verse we hold on to.
@@ngonidzashenkomo4235 muri kumonyora magwaro mukuru Nyaya yadavid yaiparidza Kristu Ndosaka David akazoroora bathsheba after Uriah afaa Ndozvakaitawo Jesu akaroora church after His resurrection Saka Bathsheba mukadzi anoreva kuti church ndosaka zvichinzi God is not a moralistic God is God of principles Wakatarisa kudzinza raDavid ndiko kwakazvarwa futi Jesu saka musangotii ingawana apaa pakati Zvinoda dudziro kubva kuna mweya mutsvene Zvagara zvinozivikanwa kuti munhuu haafanire kuuraya that's why Cain akatukwa even David akatukwa mumhuri yake yakatanga kumutambudza saka tererai kutaura kwaMwari kwete kuverenga bible as a moral lesson
The woman if willing, has the right to leave the man and also the right to choose to stay. The issue is two sided. Though due to both the Judean culture and even the African culture which consider a wife to be a property of the husband, the woman may not be empowered to divorce a man, but as the western mentality dawns upon the world, now women are coming to know their rights
zigo believes in makandiwa ndizvo zvinonetsa. zigo analysis is just pro makandiwa its not nutral. hautore example yahosea yekuOld testament kuparadza zvakataurwa naJesu in matthew 19 vs 9. iye makandiwa wacho paataura apo atobvuma wani kuti zvaari kutaura hazvisi mubhaibheri. saka vanhu voteerera makandiwa vosiya jesu. mukoma zigo marasika apa.
I think Zigo you’re being biased because on that internet of yours you neglected the first point ipapo pakanzi it’s a parable …… However you’re saying apostle Chiwenga said that yet you’re hiding behind the finger , it’s not Chiwenga but that was a scripture where Jesus himself was saying even a divorced woman due to adultery must not be married again ……. Also as a reminder the church doesn’t go back and forth to offend God but rather the church should be as pure as a chaste virgin Amana mirai kuda kupinda mu comfort zone ye adultery
VaZigo biblical precedence yamashandisa is totally separated from physical adultery. It had more to do.with Israel getting back.to God. Ma Bible quotes chimbomamirai kana musati maakunzwisisa😮
Wats great before God, To forgive her or deny forgiveness while she is begging for it. Some of you will miss heaven nenyaya dziri simple. Did God ever say if you forgive her wakaremara (Crippled)?
Zigo panyaya ya Hosea ne Gormer those are dark speeches zvoda a God send preachers to explain to us ,paiparidzwa nyaya ye Jesu to redeem old testament wangu. Yes you're not rightful dividing the word of God.
Zigo Jesus was dealing with the Israelite according to their culture in the old testament remember the new testament became effective effective after his death
Zigo wangu they are both right just get what they are saying in between the lines the thing is prophet was teaching and Apostle was evangelising here . Go continue with Prophet Makandiwa’s message he ends talking of not reconciling .
Zigo is a better apostle than Chiwenga, that's correctly dividing the Word of God. Is Chiwenga saying Jesus was actually supposed to pick a stone and kill Mary Magadline than what he did to show mercy to her????? hmmmmm. Haaaa aya ma self styled apostles enyu achakurasai. Chiwenga ngaataure audio yake yaainyenga mwana we sangano not showing double standards under camera.
Prophet Makandiwa ataura zvaanofunga iye not zvirimumagwaro but Apostle T f Chiwenga awerenga mumagwaro ,so totedzera magwaro here or zvirikufungwa nemunhuwo zvake
kkkkk ya Hosiah iyo its not a good case study. Hatisi tese tine ma message atiri kufanirwa ku potrayer. Hapana va sanangurwa vari kufanirwa kudzidza zvidzidzo pamararamiro edu.
Mr zigo you 💯% better and clear than chiwenga ,ndiye munhu asingazivi mwari zvachose . Mwari wedu rudo ,zvino iye mwari wake wehutsinye uuuum nganamate ega sezvo nemhuri yacho haana ,izuva rimwechete achawanikwa achidonhera rute vakadzi vevanhu and his laws will judge him also
Zigo wako anoshandisa AI uyu😂😂😂. Paridzirwai nema journalist. Munotsvaga zvinonakidza nzeve dzenyu kaah. Kuparidzirwa ne robot shuwa 😂😂😂. We know the wrath of the Lord, we urge you to repent brother and follow the true word which does not follow your feelings but the mind of God.
Ndimii varume vari very week how can you say that unotongwa nemukadzi here wakamboona barika rinoitwa nemukadzi asi murume anogona kutoroora futii next time uverenge pana 1vakorinde 11 yese @@MichaelJeremiah07
Hey zigo i think everyone can see that Yu are busy using hatred in all your judgements btwn these two ...Yu actually saying wat Yu can't do ....walk the talk and talk the walk ..even if Yu forgive a harlot by lineage spirit Yu must be ready tu forgive her every tym cos she won't stop especially if Yu that forgiveful
Good advice from Prophet Makandiwa. If you follow the sermon by PEM he went on to say you ought to forgive and forgiveness is a must and, forgiveness is not reconcilliation, Iye Chiwenga anoti mukadzi akasabereka roora mumwe woita barika , mukadzi akabereka vasikana roora mumwe, isnt Chiwenga promoting polygamy when God says one wife one husband. ??MTH 19:5 a man shall......... and join his wife and these two shall be one. Never did the Bible say man shall join his wives.
Chiwenga is talking sense, why stay with a whore. On polygamy, he's right A man can marry any number of wives, that is why man were created with the ability to impregnate multiple women in a year
@@TerenceMukoorain the Bible there are many women who were baren. They prayed to God and they got children, many of whom became Prophets. I don't not think it's a must that you must have another woman to bear children. Even Abraham did it without instructions from God and the child was not the child of promise. A lot of things are being made doctrine when they are not doctrine. And a lot of Apostles Chiwengas disciples are very condescending on anyone who says anything different
Prophet makandiwa vati hazvimo mu bhaibheri vati am just saying it 😅
Forgiveness and reconciliation are two distinct concepts. Forgiveness is essential, while reconciliation is optional. You can choose to forgive someone and move on, especially if you no longer have the willingness or desire to reconcile with that person. Forgiveness is a necessity, not a choice, but reconciliation depends on the circumstances. This applies to all situations, including betrayal. For example, if a friend steals from you, forgiveness is crucial for your own peace of mind, and you have the right to end the friendship without holding on to resentment. You can choose to let go of the past, drop the charges, and move forward with your life. It’s important to recognize that unforgiveness can block your relationship with God, who forgives us daily. Holding on to bitterness hinders our connection with Him.
Very clever
You are a genuine preacher of the true gospel of Jesus Christ
The scripture are very clear; Matthew 5:32 says , But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery. This clearly shows there is no justification in keeping an adulterous woman because by remaining married to her you are also committing adultery even if you forgive her.
1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
@@simonnhunzvi4662 saka waka confesser wakagara kumba kwako unofunga zvinochinja pfungwa dzaMwari
Ngatizivei kuti mafungiro edu akasiyana naMwari
Tinoziva kuti Mwari haanzwi vatadzi. Anonzwa munhu anomutya uye anoita kuda kwake.
Johani 9:31
Ndosaka kuchida vaparidzi mukuru wangu
Munhu wenyama haafe akaziva zvaMwari asi mweya mutsvene ndiye anodudzira zvaMwari kwete zvake
Magwaro anoda kuzarurwa sinyoro
Panguva iyoyo Jesu akati, “Ndinokurumbidzai Baba, Ishe wedenga nenyika, nokuti makavanza zvinhu izvi kuna vakachenjera navakadzidza, uye mukazvizarurira kuvana vaduku. ”
Mateo 11:25
Kwete kungoti ndotanga kuti Mwari ndiregerei ndakagara kumba zvine ma procedures
Ndosaka zvikudzi mukadzi akamboroorwa akaita hupombwe hapasisina mumwe mukana wekuroorwa unless ave joki nokuti majokii ogaa ndiwo ane hunhu hwechi hedhenii( imbwa)
@@simonnhunzvi4662 1 Corinthians 6:16- ; Don't you know that anyone joined to a prostitute is one body with her? For scripture says, The two will become one flesh.
@@nyashatamayi4972he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman who had sinned but the hypocrites did.
It is justified to leave her, I did not see where it says it's a must.
Even though it's perfectly justified and no one will blame you. Most men agree to that option but it is not necessarily a must
You sin aiming to be forgiven
Both preachers are saying the same thing from the way l hear it, but the only diffrence is Madam Chiwenga is explaining as a Grade 5 student where we used to say IT CAN'T in maths , but Prof Makandiwa is taking it at University level where we say IT CAN,, prof Makandiwa,s explanation and understanding is more advanced than our primary student Mama Chiwenga
😂😂😂😂😂
Makandiwa is doing church business so he tries by all means to accommodate more followers by going against the bible. Makandiwa never preaches about repentance and salvation because he is a charlatan a typical false prophet. Chiwenga is preaching true gospel of repentance and salvation. Chiwenga is right Makandiwa igava.
@@PrayerNinjaI agree with you
@@PrayerNinja are you sure?
Mama chiwenga 😅😅😅😅
Understanding the difference on divorce and forgiveness is key here .Divorcing is not unforgiveness.but a decision based on principle.Forgiveness does not mean overlooking adultery committed and remain married.
“Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool.Isaiah 1:18
4,
Jesus Christ akati mukadzi ahura haafaniri kuregererwa nemurume. Jesus Christ himself spoke
Iwe mukadzi ndewa Denford mhani zvezvitadzo tosangana kudenga
Thank you papa for teaching us.
Aaah statement rekuti ndoziva Mwari kuvadarika vese aaah!... Chiwenga anotorwara chete
His level of pride is unimaginable
😂😂😂😂
Kungorwadziwawo hako and you won't understand it nenzeve dzenyama
@@TatendaMangemba Kurwadziwa nei wangu, Chiwenga has absolutely no relevance in my life, he is not my league & therz nothing to admire abt him...anongopengereka uya!
Wataura chokwadi mpengo zvawo unonzi chiwenga is brother to madungwe@@joechin636
Chiwenga is right on point ne bible uyowo makandiwa haana chaataura kunze kwekuita fabricate the bible
Were exactly is he right,
Apostle Chiwenga is always on point, MaGwaro ataura pachena kuti mukadzi ahura ngaasiiwe and asaroorwa zvekare, Jesus Christ pachake akataura.
Mukangoziwa kuti mahure epatouchline arikupromotewa nemamaried man not boys then kudenga Hakuna anoenda😂. Mobvamaziwa kuti mahure arikuchvana ne chihure asi waridzi Wana baba wachikundikana moziwa kuti hapana kwatirikuenda.
Baba veduvarikudenga zitarenyu ngarikudzwe pasi sezvarinoitwa kudenga tipeiwo kudyakwedu kunotiringa MOTIREGERAWO MHOSVADZATAKAKUTADZIRAI ISU ( SOKUREGERERAKWATINOITAWO VANOTITADZIRA) musatirega tichipinda munezvakaipa nekuti humambo ndewenyu namasimba ndeenyu kudzamarakasingaperi Amen
The scripture appears to me to be empowering rather than mandatory. It's not safe to reach a conclusion on the matter on the basis of one verse; each man must give us one or two more verses to support their views. We are waiting for Round 2.
On this I second Prophet Makandiwa, Malachi 2:14.
I that context, Jesus said "he who created them in the beginning made them one, and not twain"
Do you think Lord Jesus had forgotten about Malachi when he said that adultery can't be forgiven? @@MichaelJeremiah07
You can just tell kuti vanhu varikuti Makandiwa what hee Makandiwa that, its either vanhu veku JRM who inherited grudge or munhu akahurirwa ane bitterness..I truly i understand but emotions aside carefully listen to what Emmanuel is saying.
He is totally in agreement with the scriptures, kuti ukahurirwa u are justified to go through divorce. Akuna kunzi garai nevakadzi vamabata vachihura no!..but he is now taking it further to teach people the art of forgiveness. If God himself can forgive, can't you also forgive & make amendments? There is nothing wrong in forgiving a cheating wife & continue living together, it's not a weakness..that IF YOU CAN, akuna kunzi its must..
Yooh vanhu i know u hate this man, but please zvimwe zvacho ka uhmmm!
Imagine some of these people do not realize that the reason they grew up with the warmth of both parents is not because their parents were faithful, but because their parents exercised forgiveness on each other and reconciled. The issue is two sided and Prophet Makandiwa just chose to provide both the sides. Thank you
Hakuna murume anepfungwa dzakakwana anoregera mukadzi hure. Dai Mwari vakatoti pondai mahure anohura pavarume because vanosvibisa nzinza
@@PrayerNinjamakutonyanya kuoma kudarika Jesus
Ehe mukadzi wako akakudyisa Haisi mhosva yako. Dakutomukwira mangwana futi waenda kubasa. Forgive her as many times as you can isu we will keep doing her good. Iwe uchimukisser kuno anenge abva kudya Nzvonyo dzedu. Makandiwa once sold 1 brick for $10 and told his congregants you shall build a house. This man a scammer
@TEVINKUZIVAMAVUNGA Go deeper havana kunzwa mushe 😀😀😀😀. Makandiwa mukuronyera arikutsvaga mari. Vanhu pavanenge varikumabasa iye anenge ari busy kutsvaga nyaya dzinonanikdza vanhu vake kuti varambe vachienda kunorohwa mari
Thanks, Zigo for reading that scripture.
Iwe we are on earth iwe 10:29 ah nhaimi huyai muhwe hwai iyi
Thank you Pastor Zigo
I think most people are missing the point here, issue is forgiveness and taking your wife back is optional, devoicing her is not a must though most if us men can agree that it's the best option. Now saying kuti if one chooses to forgive and take back the wife kuremara or anything is not scriptural and not true coz God forgives anyone nonmatter the sin, adultery, phonication, murder even ma satanist when they repent God will welcome them back with love. So if God can forgive then we also can forgive and God does not judge for choosing to forgive, only men can judge you and call you names just like Chiwenga
You are very wrong, Jesus Christ said: " it's a must to divorce an adulterous wife" there is no otherwise on that.
Scriptures first 📖
@@Takas-p9p that's not what the scripture says," Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery” (Matt 19:8-9, NIV). So here Jesus did not say its a must but rather divorce is permitted in such a circumstance.
Munorwara ini ko panonzi ndnokuregererai kunyangwe zvivi zvenyu zvakatsvuka seropa dd he mention type yezvivi @@Takas-p9p
Madofo mirai nevana vasatan mirai ndkuudzei henyu kuti Mwari ndiMwari anoregerera kunyangwe chivi chipi kwete zvana Chiwenga matuzvi ayo hakuna chiyero chezvivi futi atuka apomba same fanana asi nyasha ndidzo dzavanozongoita havo Ishe
Zigo We are waiting for that year , pachabuda mukadziwako anzwa nekurara nevamwe varume ,uchishandira mukadzi iyeye.
Gore iroro I will come back here and remind you to forgive her.
I hope God will use you to prove how as man we should forgive our cheating wives.
What does Matthew 19:8 ? It comes before Matthew 19:9
hanzi ini ndoziva mwari kuvadarika vese, makuitasei munhu washe
Makandiwa zvamongoziva kuti igava
I don't actively follow either of them hangu, but Prophet EM vari correct. You can divorce but its not a must to do so. Forgiveness is required from you kunyange watadzirwa zvemhando ipi.
Vhangeri Rachiwenga ndere Bitterness hakuna vhangeri rakadai ,i do not agree naMakandiwa pazvechiprofita zvake asi shoko anaro ,,,Munhu anoti anoziva mwari kupfuura vanhu vese whats nonsense is that ??
Ukangoona wati that part is not in the bible , watobvocha
wavakutaurawo dzimwe nyaya dzisina basa dzoka munyaya
That part is not in the Bible 😅😅😅😅, so now we are following Prophet more than Bible 🤣🤣🤣, statment rekuti. Mwari ndomuziva 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Kana ahura ngaenda,Kana ukaroora mukadzi akahura newe wavawo neChivi cheHupombwe nekuti wasanganiswa nemombwe
Only sober mind can understand Makandiwa
@titustembo6327 There is nothing on Makandiwa to "understand"...Unless the word "understand" has new meaninng !!!
I agree with prophet
This forgiveness mantra borders on hypocrisy. Mubvunzei Manu kuti mukadzi wake akatorwa naBalthazar anoregerera here iye pachake. Chiwenga is being realistic simple
Again we have Pipo like u who hate for no reason, Makandiwa never said forgiving her is a MUST, if he himself chooses to forgive her, then thats his choice. There is nothing wrong with that even after delivering this sermon. Do u even understand at all
Can we say there is an unforgivable ? Batai sense iripo you forgive the wife who had committed adultery but you are free not to take her back! Forgiving does not mean you take her back, its depends on individual one can Forgive and take her back or Forgive and not take her back
Haaaaa ya Hosea iyo, hamuna kuibata Mr Zigo even though I would agree with Makandiwa's version.
It's hot and 🔥🔥🔥🔥
One can do what he thinks it right for him ....
They are both correct wani!!!!
Chiwenga ndi king
Do we do things because they have been done by people in the Bible?
Mkadzi aka hura hapana negotiation anongo rongedza hake in peace woenda kumusha kwavo
Nyaya Hosea offside panyaya iyi kkkk Gomer akazodii asangana na Hosea
It's not offside, goma was promiscuous that's the focal point here
"that part is not in the Bible, I'm just saying"
Makandiwa ngaanyore rake bhaibheri.
Chenjerai imbwa. Vaiti vezvakaipa. Vowedzera zvakanyorwa.
Bible zvirimo zvese dei zvainzwisisika zvakakwana zvisina panoda kubatsirwa kutsanangurwa , hakwaidiwa vadzidzisi kuti varidzidzise, saka azoritsanangura achireva zvaririkutaura chaizvo chaizvo zvamusina kubata nekuti hazvina kunyorwa, hachingave chikonzero chekuti tichiti saka vatsanangura vabva vanyorawo ravo.
@farayimadyara7876 akatukwa uyo achawedzera kana kutapudza zvakanyorwa
Think my guy yoooo
Asi unofarira chihure here nhai vaZigo
Ko nhayi Zigo zvaunodotsanangura zvinohwikwa kudarika madam Chiwenga vachiri pasi pemurairo avo vanodzidzisa an Eye for an Eye in this dispensation, so shocking.thats why kuurayana kurikunyanya if paita ma disagrements in marriages, vanoteerera dzidziso dziri so violent, dangerous and poisinous, if u choose kumuramba thats all if wa chooser kumuregerera thats it, ko zvekuti uraaayaaa vose ndochii ichocho. 1.Unofira mujere
2.Vana vosara vachitambura
3.Waunza ngozi mumusha, unopedzesa dzinza, nezvimharidzo zvakatsauka izvi
Masatanist ayo vanopiwa masimba nasekuru kafera
Spiritual journalist" this is an Areopagus theory😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mkadzi wemunhu mazai eMheni😂😂 😂
Makandiwa is teaching God character nekuti iye Mwari hana chivi chaasingakanwire...
Zigo ari wako ahura uno muregerera here ukwane usade kushingisa vamwe mukadzi aka hura anoenda kumba kwavo asi huroi unogadzirisiwa zvopera chiri muruoko chinoraswa chiri mumoyo hachi raswe ari wako uno nzwa sei ukwane ndiri mukadzi asi ndino kukunda kufunga
Zigo..Zigo !!! "making sense" ? What? Scriptures are written about Jesus Christ [Luke 24:44] for the SALVATION of those predestined for ETERNAL life!
Mmm makandiwa akarashika apa
Apostle Chiwenga haataure zvekufadza munhu asi the word from God
Trueee
Hurirwa ka iwe uone ka kuti unomutora here ? Jesus to allow divorce her for a reason . Do remember the story of David and Uriah’s Wife and the complications thereafter and How Angry God was he didn’t forgive David there he actually punished him
So true magona
Hosiah ws on punishment bro
Haaaa Zigo uchanzi uri chidhakwa futi🤣🤣
Ya Gomer was a symbolic action and a dramatic message to Israel for Spiritual adultery, so God was using that Drama to preach to his Wife Israel that's why the name of the Kids were unique name like "Not pitted, Not my people"
So i think, you wanted to say God forgives Israel though Israel committed adultery
Kana ahura anobaya kumba kwavo 😅
Haaaa zigo siyana nemangwaro iwe iweka
Munaye here mukadzi bamnin Zigo
Makandiwa ataura verse ipi mhata iwe
Vanhu weku Zimbabwe madofo mufunge tererayi ma sermon ese mozotoka chii chinonzi kudzidzisa
Makandiwa wanobata both side.
I thought Saul before he become Paul killed believers . I need to be corrected here.
magwaro ndeemukadzi ahura kwete murume auraya.iye paul akaregererwa nehama dzevaakauraya here or namwari
I think for all, this is an unnecessary debate. Because God looks at people's hearts and true repentance. David was still God's servant even after the sin of Bathsheba. When we sin, we fall short of his glory, but when we repent, we become new. He cleans us from our sins. We are just making everything fixed towards whatever verse we hold on to.
@@ngonidzashenkomo4235 muri kumonyora magwaro mukuru
Nyaya yadavid yaiparidza Kristu
Ndosaka David akazoroora bathsheba after Uriah afaa
Ndozvakaitawo Jesu akaroora church after His resurrection
Saka Bathsheba mukadzi anoreva kuti church ndosaka zvichinzi
God is not a moralistic
God is God of principles
Wakatarisa kudzinza raDavid ndiko kwakazvarwa futi Jesu saka musangotii ingawana apaa pakati
Zvinoda dudziro kubva kuna mweya mutsvene
Zvagara zvinozivikanwa kuti munhuu haafanire kuuraya that's why Cain akatukwa even David akatukwa mumhuri yake yakatanga kumutambudza saka tererai kutaura kwaMwari kwete kuverenga bible as a moral lesson
old testament siyana nayo haibvise mashoko ajesu
@@edgarmufambi-fg3rx kkkk aaah ndoozvamunonyeperana kwenyu
What about a man if he cheats
The woman if willing, has the right to leave the man and also the right to choose to stay. The issue is two sided.
Though due to both the Judean culture and even the African culture which consider a wife to be a property of the husband, the woman may not be empowered to divorce a man, but as the western mentality dawns upon the world, now women are coming to know their rights
Face yazigo neface yamagaya dzakabhenda semabhendesero avanoita maverse😂😂😂😂
zigo believes in makandiwa ndizvo zvinonetsa. zigo analysis is just pro makandiwa its not nutral. hautore example yahosea yekuOld testament kuparadza zvakataurwa naJesu in matthew 19 vs 9. iye makandiwa wacho paataura apo atobvuma wani kuti zvaari kutaura hazvisi mubhaibheri. saka vanhu voteerera makandiwa vosiya jesu. mukoma zigo marasika apa.
Makandiwa iGava
Warikuhura naniniko wakadzi wacho, wese warume ne wakadzi wacho ngawatakwe nemabwe.
It's not in the bible yes ndeyako isu hatiteedzeri tsika dzako
there you are lost Zigo that story of Hosea is about Israelites having to come back to God and doesn't relate to woman who commits adultery
I think Zigo you’re being biased because on that internet of yours you neglected the first point ipapo pakanzi it’s a parable ……
However you’re saying apostle Chiwenga said that yet you’re hiding behind the finger , it’s not Chiwenga but that was a scripture where Jesus himself was saying even a divorced woman due to adultery must not be married again …….
Also as a reminder the church doesn’t go back and forth to offend God but rather the church should be as pure as a chaste virgin
Amana mirai kuda kupinda mu comfort zone ye adultery
Ukangoona wakutaura zvisiri my Bible warasika. Bible says don’t add or subtract
There is a difference Between fornication and Adultery
VaZigo biblical precedence yamashandisa is totally separated from physical adultery. It had more to do.with Israel getting back.to God. Ma Bible quotes chimbomamirai kana musati maakunzwisisa😮
Chokwadi chri kutaurwa nachiwenga,,,
Chiwenga akatumwa na Ishe Mwari
Jesus forgave a woman caught inn adulterous situation … nobody could throw a stone
Zigo stop using AI. Offside panyaya Hosea
Wats great before God, To forgive her or deny forgiveness while she is begging for it. Some of you will miss heaven nenyaya dziri simple. Did God ever say if you forgive her wakaremara (Crippled)?
verenga mtt 5 vs 32
Zigo panyaya ya Hosea ne Gormer those are dark speeches zvoda a God send preachers to explain to us ,paiparidzwa nyaya ye Jesu to redeem old testament wangu. Yes you're not rightful dividing the word of God.
Zigo Jesus was dealing with the Israelite according to their culture in the old testament remember the new testament became effective effective after his death
Zigo wangu they are both right just get what they are saying in between the lines the thing is prophet was teaching and Apostle was evangelising here . Go continue with Prophet Makandiwa’s message he ends talking of not reconciling .
lukewarm...
Chihure ndechekumama .ndokwakatangira murder ikoko .haunditivise mativiwa kaaaa bible says ukabata mukadzi achihura tora dombo umumamise afe
Makandiwa ngaagadzire rake bible rezvaanofunga isu toteerera shoko ra Mwari
Wazvinzwira wega kuti makandiwa haana kana verse akutaura zvemusoro wake
Ko iwe murume ukahura unoita sei batai both sides , it's up to u
Ukaziva the principles of God haubvunze zvakadaro murume nemukadzi havana kuenzana mofanha kuziva izvozvo ndimi vakadzi musingakudze varume venyu majaira kudzidziswa nenyika pane kuti uterere murairo waMwari
Ndipe one example from the scripture mukadzi akaita barika
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅waudze zvekurerutsirana panyama haiwawo
murume haanzi ahura
read your bible again
@@TerenceMukoora😅😅😅😅😅😅iyeeeeee
Imii problem yenyu vahedheni ndeyekuti hamunzwisisi murairo waMwari
As long uri muheathen Mwari haana nyaya nemi anokusiyai muchiita zvamunoda asii kana watendeuka unenge wakufanira kusiya tsika dzechi hedheni ndosaka zvichinzi musakandira zvitsvene kuimbwa nemaparera kunguruve
Kana uri imbwa Mwari haana problem newe asii kana wave hwai then wakutodzidzira kuita tsika dzehwai uchidzidza kuda kwaMwari kwete kwavahedheni
Kana muchida kupomba musaroorwa kana mangoora kana kuroorwa siyanai neupombwe ndatopedza nemi
Zigo is a better apostle than Chiwenga, that's correctly dividing the Word of God. Is Chiwenga saying Jesus was actually supposed to pick a stone and kill Mary Magadline than what he did to show mercy to her????? hmmmmm.
Haaaa aya ma self styled apostles enyu achakurasai. Chiwenga ngaataure audio yake yaainyenga mwana we sangano not showing double standards under camera.
musafananidze mwari nemunhu. makandiwa is wrong. kana mwari achiregerera adultery hazvirevi kuti munhu anosungirwa kuregerera.mwari nemunhu zvakatosiyana.
Iwe Zigo hindava uchida kutikanganisira vakadzi iwe naManue wako imimi makuda ku twister Bible iro rakangotaura pachena
Zigo urimuurayi iwe hauna nyaya
Ndakamuwana asiri mhandara ouya futi ondihurira .uuuuuuum.
Prophet Makandiwa ataura zvaanofunga iye not zvirimumagwaro but Apostle T f Chiwenga awerenga mumagwaro ,so totedzera magwaro here or zvirikufungwa nemunhuwo zvake
Let's follow the bible😊
kkkkk ya Hosiah iyo its not a good case study. Hatisi tese tine ma message atiri kufanirwa ku potrayer. Hapana va sanangurwa vari kufanirwa kudzidza zvidzidzo pamararamiro edu.
Mr zigo you 💯% better and clear than chiwenga ,ndiye munhu asingazivi mwari zvachose . Mwari wedu rudo ,zvino iye mwari wake wehutsinye uuuum nganamate ega sezvo nemhuri yacho haana ,izuva rimwechete achawanikwa achidonhera rute vakadzi vevanhu and his laws will judge him also
Zigo wako anoshandisa AI uyu😂😂😂. Paridzirwai nema journalist. Munotsvaga zvinonakidza nzeve dzenyu kaah. Kuparidzirwa ne robot shuwa 😂😂😂.
We know the wrath of the Lord, we urge you to repent brother and follow the true word which does not follow your feelings but the mind of God.
@@admiremufaroomasoja eku Ai😂😂😂😂
Taura hko tchamubata ruoko
Apostle Zigo😅😅😅😅😅 spritual Journalist😅😅😅 matoveri kutodzidzisa maApostles 😅😅😅😅
Zigo sadaroooo
Spiritual journalist waaniko nhaiwe zigo ...
I gree with Chiwenga mukadzi ngaende kana ahura ahacharegedza kana arara nemumwe murume
Ko kana murume ahura anoendawo here? Uye acharega here kana amborara neumwe mkadzi
@MichaelJeremiah07 andiende as long ndiripamba pangu andiende
Ndimii varume vari very week how can you say that unotongwa nemukadzi here wakamboona barika rinoitwa nemukadzi asi murume anogona kutoroora futii next time uverenge pana 1vakorinde 11 yese @@MichaelJeremiah07
Iwewe Zigo tipewo pfugwa dzako.
Hey zigo i think everyone can see that Yu are busy using hatred in all your judgements btwn these two ...Yu actually saying wat Yu can't do ....walk the talk and talk the walk ..even if Yu forgive a harlot by lineage spirit Yu must be ready tu forgive her every tym cos she won't stop especially if Yu that forgiveful
Chiwenga ndorombe rekutanga
Good advice from Prophet Makandiwa. If you follow the sermon by PEM he went on to say you ought to forgive and forgiveness is a must and, forgiveness is not reconcilliation,
Iye Chiwenga anoti mukadzi akasabereka roora mumwe woita barika , mukadzi akabereka vasikana roora mumwe, isnt Chiwenga promoting polygamy when God says one wife one husband. ??MTH 19:5 a man shall......... and join his wife and these two shall be one. Never did the Bible say man shall join his wives.
Chiwenga is talking sense, why stay with a whore.
On polygamy, he's right
A man can marry any number of wives, that is why man were created with the ability to impregnate multiple women in a year
these gospreneurs are leading people astray, promoting promiscuity in the name of "God forgives"
@@nancynyawodza2426 haaa Mwari dai akubatsira kana achida bcz muri kure nekunzwisisa mitemo yaMwari
@@TerenceMukoorain the Bible there are many women who were baren. They prayed to God and they got children, many of whom became Prophets.
I don't not think it's a must that you must have another woman to bear children. Even Abraham did it without instructions from God and the child was not the child of promise.
A lot of things are being made doctrine when they are not doctrine.
And a lot of Apostles Chiwengas disciples are very condescending on anyone who says anything different
@@KeepUp2 verenga Galatians 4vs 20 kusvika ipere ubate nyaya kwayo