Nikon Z8 Video Quality (Sharpness, 8k, N-Raw, Color, Compression)
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
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In this video, we compare the Nikon Z8 recording modes and video quality.
We test how different resolution modes compare with each other (8K vs 4k)
The difference between ProRes HQ, Nikon N-Raw, and H265 codecs.
The color quality between different picture profiles and Nikon Nlog.
00:00 - 8k detail
00:40 - N-Raw vs ProRes color
01:18 - compression H265 vs N-RAW
02:05 - color and skin tones
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I'm so glad someone finally made this video instead of just another talking head spewing opinions. Keep this up for a year or two and you'll have tons of subscribers I'm sure!
Thank you for the kind words!
I recently filmed in Z9 ProRes 422 LT with the new Low ISO 1.0 and the low level noise from ISO 800 was gone, finally! :) Something on par with the Sony sensor on the FX3/FX6/A7SIII. I was astounded at how much cleaner it was out of the box, and I mostly use fixed lighting in the studio so I wasn't too worried.
Quite happy also with the ISO 4000 of the Nikon Z9/Z8 for low light.
It would be nice if this feature low ISO could come to the Z8. Wait and see ;)
I'd be cautious with doing that. I recently found that the Low ISO settings clip highlights way too easily.
Thank you!! I have been beyond frustrated with how noisy my ISO 800 shots have been on my Z9, I'm definitely going to give this a shot on my next shoot!
Haven’t had noise problems in nraw in my z8. Would use a lowers iso since you will loose data in the highlights. At least wouldn’t go beyond 400.
@@josechomali it’s actually a dual gain sensor, you have 800 and 4000 with Nlog, not sure about SDR
Thank you for not posting another video shooting clouds or mountains. This is VERY helpful. Subscribed!
Thank you. New videos are coming soon.
Great shots and comparisons, thanks!
Thank you.
Thank you for all the information! I seriously consider buying this camera and this guide is incredible
Thanks for watching!
Very precise work . kudos n good luck:)
Thanks!
hi, is it possible to share a video not corrected 4k 10bit 422?
Check out our N-log Luts here
www.cinematools.co/nlog-z9
Those blue and violet colours are wildly different in N-RAW vs PRORES. Why is that do you think? @1:00
@@petersuvara There's a slight difference in how it renders blues between ProRes HQ and N-RAW but in that case, it might be exaggerated because of the incorrect white balance setting.
Nice video! Did you use ND Filters? Thanks.
Thanks.
No NDs, exposure was adjusted via shutter speed. NDs usually affect the color and sometimes sharpness.
Excuse the noob question, How did you achieve that “IR” red Chanel only look? Is it in camera or in post?
No worries, it's not a noob question.
It's done in post.
In After Effects you can select to view only one channel instead of RGB. In Davinci Resolve there's a splitter/combiner node that breaks the image by channels. You can also do it in Fusion tab.
Hey, what did you use to export this video? I mean I am watching on FULL HD, and it looks great.
Mostly ProRes HQ or DNxHQ. Sometimes I crunch it down in handbrake for the smaller filesize but typically avoid straight h264 from Premiere or Resolve.
Take a look at our blog post about YT compression
www.cinematools.co/blog/best-encoding-settings-for-youtube-and-h264h265
@@cinematools9621 I see, this is awesome! But let's say you have a edit with nikon z8 + dji mini 4 + iphone 15 pro max, all shot in 4k, how would you export it, since footage comes from 3 different devices?
@@helloworld7796 same principle, you export it with the highest possible quality for the conversion. Even if your source is not the highest quality, you don't want to lose any quality when rendering.
@@cinematools9621 I see. I did read the blog about the handbrake usage. But didn't understood what I would use to export from resolve, and then re-render it using handbrake. But I guess I will have to read it again and test it out to get the max quality. Thank you a lot! Keep up the great videos. Also do sometimes grading of Z8 if you can. I would love to see how people grade Z8 footage raw with skin tones. I did saw your examples, flat seems the best profile, but I would love to see some examples of grades as well
@@helloworld7796ProRes or DNxHQ as a master and using that in handbrake to create h264/265. Handbrake has a better encoder than Resolve, the downside is the render time.
Thank you. We might add some tutorials in the future but it's hard to find enough time for everything. From personal experience, Flat is probably the worst profile on Nikon's. There's not much gain in dynamic range compared to the Neutral but it has increased saturation in the reds which makes skin tones look odd. We use N-Log for everything.
Can u show a tutorial on how to do internal recording in nikon z8
No such video available
What do you mean by that? Camera settings?
@@cinematools9621 yes
from where to do all those things in menu?
What r the things to be aware of?
Can it be played in pc like a normal video?
File size of such videos etc..
@@capturecreations5065 there are a couple of videos that Nikon posted on youtube with Z9 settings for video. These cameras are pretty much identical, so you can watch that.
@@cinematools9621 ok ok thank u
Are raw video files larger than normal 4k videos?
@@capturecreations5065 Yes, raw files are larger than h265 but smaller than ProRes HQ. h265 10bit N-log is pretty good for most situations.
Why don't they let you increase the bitrate for H.265 like in Sony with stream selection? Noise in h.265 jumps terribly
Good point. The bitrate for static shots in h265 is around 20mb/s which is way too low.
Sony cameras also have issues with compression but it's not as severe. The good thing is that Nikon offers internal RAW.
Did you test after turning the extended oversampling on? It will give you much higher bit rate.
@@anirbanghose994 it was on
Thank you. Was the 4k shots oversampled or "regular" 4k?
how you correct the white balance
With HDR global. Offset works pretty well too.
@@cinematools9621 thnkz )))
One question, are the picture profiles for ProRes HQ only on the Z8. I cannot activate them, even with the SDR profile on the Z9. Am I missing something?
Don't have Z9 to check right now but when you switch to SDR it allows you to choose picture profiles. Is it greyed out when you click i button in video mode?
2:07 Nikon needs to work on their Standard profile.
Yes, but you can also dial down the sharpness.
I also don't see a reason of using it over Neutral if a REC709 image is needed.
Flat seems so better.
No need to work on it. Simply use neutral or flat.
Why do you say that? I said the same thing shooting in standard for photo today
Overall quite disappointing results. Poor dynamic range ( as we can see on your last test with the girl , 4k is quite soft, and very digital image.
The dynamic range is on par with other mirrorless cameras. Maybe a stop lower than FX3 in Slog3 but better than Canon.
You can downsample from 8k and the image is incredibly detailed.
All cameras look digital because they're digital. The look is shaped by lens choice and filters.
@@cinematools9621 Sorry but no. The R3 in video got more dynamic range than the z8 for sure. I have a C70 and a R3 and I tried the fx6 ( same sensor as the a7siii) so I know what I'm talking about
@@cinematools9621 as for the digital look not all digital cameras are equal. The fx6 for example despite having the same sensor as the a7siii got a nicer image.
@@Makta972 check Cined lab tests
@@Makta972 I own the Z9 and also owned the R3, FX3, and C70....There is no noticeable dynamic range difference between any of them.