WHAT HAPPENED TO TITANIC'S DEAD?
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- I really went down the rabbit hole on this topic. I hope you enjoy.
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This only scratches the surface, but these are the best articles to start with for further reading.
John Snow Funeral Home & Water Recovery:
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Are Their Human Remains in the Titanic?
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CSI Titanic- Who Died How?
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Experts Split on Possibility of Remains at Titanic Site:
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The Morning After: Where Were the Bodies?
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Re-burial at Sea Picture (Didn’t use this as a source, just for the picture!)
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“This is the internet, you guys are probably bored already”
Me: *curled up with a cup of hot cocoa and my crochet bag, ready for an hour long special on the titanic’s deceased*
Aw :(
Milo The Angel literally the same. I’m sad it was only a 5 min video.
Right?? I was so prepared to just listen and keep working on my blanket :c
I have chai tea, but I'm crocheting a baby blankie! 😢😢😢 I feel like we should all be friends! Except I have horrible social anxiety and I'm an introvert...
@@pipv7809 I wish I could like this twice. Nice to meet a club member.
pip v oh my gosh I love chai tea! But only in late form from Dunkin’ Donuts lol, crocheting in a small booth in the corner of the dining area
Am I the only person that would be interested in an hour long video on this?
You are one of many! :)
Podcaaaaassst
Absolutely not the only one.
That would be great, such an interesting subject! Pretty please? :)
No.
6 years on I'm still wanting an hour long special!
My too! I would love Caitlin to make an hour long special.
Yes! Caitlin please give us the hour long special!
Me too ask it 🥺
Same
Same same !
Imagine being able to get into one of those lifeboats, only to missed by rescuers and found a month later in the recovery for bodies. That part gave me chills, they must have felt so hopeless. Horrible way to die.
They weren't missed. They had already died before the Carpathia arrived and were not taken aboard the Carpathia at the time.
I read that some survivors did made into the Carpathia but died later.
There were originally 5 in the lifeboat, but 2 were eaten. The 3 died of food poisoning not of starvation.
@@sciteceng2hedz358 This is not true. They were left in the boat by Carpathia because they had already died.
And the three dead people in the lifeboat were probably not the only ones originally. As people died they were thrown overboard of maybe even eaten. Those three were the last to die at the same time.
My great grand uncle went down on the ship, according to family legend, though they think he either stowed away or that they spelled his name wrong on the manifest. The night the ship went down my great grandmother woke up in the middle of the night and saw him dripping wet at the foot of her bed. She said, "you're dead, aren't you?" and he just nodded and vanished.
I got goosebumps
Hey, ghosts are real. I have to believe; I saw and or heard my grandfather a couple of times well after he was gone.
I had one also they said died that way expect he tried to swim to shore and died a Molson
George Spiggott so maybe he was bird food.
@@LucasSantos-ss6ou The Titanic's last port call was in Cobh, Ireland. Almost my entire family lived in Ireland at the time. My great grand uncle was never seen again after the ship departed, and he'd told the family he was emigrating. It's not far-fetched to believe he died on board. It might be a little harder to believe if my family was Russian or something but they lived a few miles away from Cobh in 1912.
There have been humans sailing for thousands of years. Imagine how many bodies have become part of the ocean floor.
7?
Just a part of how the universe works.
Or fish food
@@mcearl8073 🤣
Great, now I'm even more afraid of the water
Anyone revisiting this after the 2023 submersible incident?
yuppppp
Present 🙋🏻♀️
I asked a question on one of those ditties, got a response that said the salt water dissolved the bones, with correct temp. Been thinking on that, thought this would address that, nope, darn
Over a century on and RMS Titanic is still claiming lives.
For the record I would totally watch an hour long lecture from you on the Titanic.
I agree!
I concur!
I would too!! That would be great!!
To be fair though, that'd be a lotta work, and I'm sure that Caitlin's got a pretty busy schedule as it is.
Dojan5
In the video she made it seem like the only thing stopping her from doing that was time constraints for her audience, but I do see your point! I just wanted to let her know that her audience isn't adverse to the idea :)
High waterpressure.
Salty water.
Scavengers.
Jacks not coming back, Rose.
Stefan Veenstra lmao
Imagine if he woke up 200ft down
He did, they got married, but didn't go well (Titanic II: Revolutionary Road)
😂 😂
She left out the pressure
We’re ready for the hour long special Caitlin!
Please include the effects of pressure...like, would their heads cave in?
@@sciteceng2hedz358 Maybe this hour long special can focus on what happens to bodies in water in general, with a focus on Titanic AND Titan. It could mention some past instances where we DO know what happened to the people. Would make a great topic as thousands if not millions of people are interested to learn about it right now.
@@sciteceng2hedz358 at 5000 + psi or pounds per square inch, the molecules comprising the physical body would be vaporized into their elements under that extreme pressure. It would take place over the course of a nanosecond. One second you'd still be here with your material body intact.....next second, gone....
@@catherinehazur7336 No because the molecules of deep-sea life manages still hold together.
Because it depends on how quickly they sank, pressure would equalize inside the body cavity. The body might shrink and contract but should hold together.
It's SUDDEN decompression which would severely damage tissues instantly.
@@lohphat i appreciate your comment. Makes perfect sense. So thanks!
It's too bad she didn't talk about the effect the recovery effort had on the men involved. Many were scarred for life.
mmmm I bet some of them bodies were NASTY lookin'
OMG, can you imagine??
@@drpatriciamushonga5411 I saw a show on it years ago. I think at least one committed suicide and others had mental breakdowns and alcohol problems then and later in life.
@@drpatriciamushonga5411 It was the children and the babies that really got to them.
John Campbell I'll bet. I don't think I would have handled it well. Those men really needed a lot of therapy after that. The potential damage was likely overlooked in that time period.
I love how she goes straight to the point of the vídeo, no cheesy intros like other youtubers. idk just wanted to say it lol
Absolutely!! Those fake "hilarious" outtakes or 4 minutes of self-promo. We know what this channel is about, we are here for it, let's get to it!
I love her pics on the wall.
YES! On almost every other video I watch I immediately skip a minute or more in (some dont start for 4-7 minutes!! Why??) But I can just watch hers easily
I really appreciate that she just goes right into her videos
Many drag their video out to 10 minutes for better ad revenue and the quality suffers as a result.
On an off topic note, my Great Grandmother was scheduled to travel on the Titanic, but was sick and couldn't go.
Thank goodness, or you might not be here with us right now.
@@TheNotverysocial Agreed.
Did she know Rose? Or Rose's high filooting snooty mother?
@@jenseninterceptors Jack, Cal, Ruth and Rose are all fictional. At best some will incidentally have similar names.
@@TheNotverysocial You're lying they're real!! It's not good to disrespect the dead 😢
You said you had enough info for an hour long special. You do much longer videos now. We’re ready, Caitlin.
I'm from Halifax and have had the honour of visiting some of the graves. The one that intrigues me the most (and I'm surprised didn't get a mention) is the Unknown Child. The Crew of the Mackey Bennett were shocked to find the intact body of a 2 year old. He was the only child recovered and the crew was moved to pay for the child's burial and tombstone (with the money they received for recovering John Jacob Astor's body). I saw a very interesting documentary (that I of course can't remember the name of) where they were able to identify him using mitochondrial DNA.
If you ever end up doing an hour long special I would definitely watch it. And if you travel to Halifax (where Snow's Funeral homes still exists) you could also cover the Halifax Explosion. It's because of what they learned from the Titanic's dead that they were able to handle the almost 1,800 people that died that day.
I believe the documentary you are referencing is call Titanic: The Aftermath, and yes it is a really good documentary and that whole story help to lay the groundwork for a lot of standards and practices still used in both mortician fields and in first responder fields when it comes to dealing with mass death
Visited Halifax on a cruise last fall; we got in late, so there was only time to do one thing; I chose to visit Fairview Lawn Cemetery. I managed to keep it together until I came upon the tombstone of the "Unknown Child", who they had by then identified as Sidney Goodwin. That's when I started to bawl my eyes out. I'd seen the documentary on how they'd identified him, read and seen documentaries about about the cemetery....but never thought to actually be there.
I read the book about the Halifax explosion. My God, how horrific! The stories of the folks who stepped up (all the people from Boston too) was awe inspiring.
I would love to travel to Halfax and see the burial spots. How well is the Cemetery kept up?
@@climeaware4814 It seemed to be well kept.
I'm aware this was 3 years ago, but I am 100% ok with an hour long special. Now, I'm off to continue my binge of your channel.
Seconded
One hundred and fourteenthed
@@Jessica-to8um Does it really truly matter if you don't know what happens to your body after it dies? 🤔
It's a choice for each individual person no matter what our age!
As far as I'm concerned, whatever is cheapest 😂
I'm happy for you that you have come to terms with death... I used to be fine about it but have watched too many Paranormal Programmes and am terrified of becoming stuck betwixt this world and the next... 😱
With a big bully demon bossing me about 😈😠
I freaking love Caitlin. And I totally agree with that
just commented exactly this before i saw people are already aboard the hr long special train. lets go!! Be even cooler if she went to canada on location. Love when she goes places, always cool to see the history too
the three dead people they found in the lifeboat is so haunting. every time i read about one of those stories of people who survived being lost at sea, i always wonder about the ones who weren’t found.
Oh damn, I had hoped the ppl in the lifeboat were still alive, but I guess that makes more sense
Actually, I just read an article saying that there were probably 20 people in that boat, the last one to be launched. People began to succumb to the cold pretty soon and they were thrown overboard to lighten the load. Twelve or thirteen surviving passengers were rescued the following morning, but those three dead people were let go in the boat.
Yeah that’s super fkd up
What freaks me out about those 3 is did they have to watch each other die or did one person just drag 2 bodies in the both to ‘help’. Creepy AF
@@suziq5958 they probably fell asleep and succumbed
Dr Ballard said that when his team first discovered the wreck it took a few moments to realise that where each pair of boots or shoes lay on the ocean floor was the place where a body had fallen to and been consumed.
Those tough little leather shoes are the passengers' and crew's own personal grave markers.
Another theory is that the shoes were tied together and set out to be polished by the shoe shine boys, which would have been common on an oceanliner. If true, it's possible that at least some of the shoes/boots seen on the ocean floor do not depict where a body had fallen.
@@matti72033 it's the positions they're found in that seem to confirm that they're where a body landed. If they'd been tied together they'd land in all sorts of positions; one upside down one the right way, heel to toe, sole to sole, etc. Unfortunately these are aligned quite neatly.
No predators down there to scatter them, just the slow dissolution from bacteria and sea water.
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 Awesome, thank you!
@@matti72033 The shoe shine service wasn't available to lower-class ticket holders, most steerage passengers didn't have more than 1 pair of footwear anyway so even if they could afford a shine, they wouldn't be putting their only footwear out, especially since there was high chance they get stolen. By the way there weren't 'shoe shine boys' on ships like Titanic, the service was provided by adult stewards. The White Star Line wasn't going to have one task street kids wandering round when they needed basically adult trained multi task cleaners.
Perhaps before looking at "theories" about the sinking read some actual social history about the early 20th century and you won't fall for very silly, completely fake ideas.
The water pressure at Titanic's ocean floor depth (~12,500 feet) is 5,546 pounds per square inch. My guess is the bodies captured in the ship were obliterated before they reached the bottom.
No they were eaten
@@Justin-pe9cl Every non-skeletal cell in a body would have burst and be in solution before reaching the sea floor. The skeletons would be majorly compromised because of the rupturing of the air pockets in the structures. So, by "eaten" you perhaps mean absorbed by some microbial activity rather than dissolved by natural decay then sure, go with that. I just don't see how it would be physically possible for the resident anglerfish, vampire fish, octopuses, and eels to be feasting on whole corpses.
This was the comment I was looking for.
@@Justin-pe9clconsumed morelike. The implied train of thought that these Titanic cadavers were whole and were subject to the deep sea wildlife in the form of crabs etc is far from the facts. As douglas has highlighted, the prevailing force at those depths is immense water pressure. So the resultant disintegration by that force would instantaneously render the drowned into a deep sea broth and subject to dispersal in convection or drift currents. The possible benefactors in this process would be smaller, lower order, flora, fauna and organisms.
How does pressure "obliterate" sometihng which is mostly water and not compressible. I think it would compress the air in the lungs and do nothing much to the rest. Flesh was eaten by fish and worms, the bones dissolved because it's below the lysocline.
She answers all death - related questions of the questions I didn’t know I had.
A good zombie game like Resident Evil 2 truly enhances the interest in all mortician-related stuff :D
J X D A exactly!
I actually shrieked when I saw this because I live across from the graveyard where the Titanic victims are buried and I've never seen anyone mention them before.
Really? I was just up the road toward the university. Tourists were there all the time just after the movie. I have since moved overseas cos... Halifax economy
MaganAlisha I live in Cape Breton and realizing our whole province is a horrible economy even what we call the city (Halifax). We don’t discuss a lot except (Titanic anniversaries) about how we have been the final resting place for many and played a role in this international tragic story!
@@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 Thank you for that lesson in your family's genealogy. I don't know what I would've done if I had never known why you and Sheena split up.
I think the oceans salt eventually disintegrated all the bodies & whatever was left of them ended up on the sea floor & swept away with the water.
@@jenibeejenibee6514 I agree--from what Dr. Robert Ballard said, it happened pretty fast, too. He said that any remaining bones would have been dissolved within 5 years of the sinking.
One of the craziest things is just how close Titanic was to her destination when she sank.
It wasn't that close. It was still several couple hundred miles out off the East Coast. Now if it was like, 12 miles, that would be close.
@@markthompson180 I didn't mean that she was in the harbor. She was well over half to 2/3 of the way.
What's even crazier is that the lifeboats were only meant to ferry people to other ships in the vicinity, drop them off and return to pick up more passengers. Had no other ships found the survivors they would've been dead anyway.
@lorenfranz3173 That makes sense of what I've heard about there not being enough life boats (not even close) to save everyone. That would mean that if every life boat were successfully deployed and every seat filled, most of the people would be left to die. After hearing all of this information, Titanic was a disaster as soon as she left dry dock.
That's pretty much the same for today @@lorenfranz3173
Oh my. UA-cam's algorithm brought to here again after that homemade submersible incident happened. I guess Caitlin should now do a part 2 of this. What happens when a vessel implodes underwater
My great grandmother’s family had bought third class tickets when she was five. They missed the boat by half an hour. They more than likely would have joined the ~700 third class passengers that were recorded as deceased had they been on time, this may fuel my family’s tendency to be just on time or fashionably late to events
You have now given me an absolutely epic excuse for my abysmal time keeping... thank you!!
(lol, I am joking- maybe, kind of...?!)
Me too! My great grandmother missed the ship by half and hour because her family’s train was late. I guess my family and me wouldn’t be here today if that train had been on time
Maybe but we are all here due to happenstance.
That's lucky 🌊
My family was the part of the ice berg that hit the titanic
4 years later and I would still love to see an hour long video
This
My ancestor was Alexander Carlisle. He retired from Harland & Wolff because they ignored his life raft number recommendations for a ship that size. Thomas Andrews was then made shipbuilder.
Hey Caitlin, I think its time for that hour long special now...
You had me at, "What are these floating treats?"
Duckie Chick I read this comment as she said it lol!
I remember in the movie where the mom and two kids just laid in their bed while the titanic went down bc they knew they couldnt make it in time and thats forever haunted me because im sure at that happened to at least one family
I'm not sure what would feel worse: realizing you won't make it out alive so you don't bother leaving the room you're in and you're just waiting to die, or you somehow make it into a lifeboat and you're hoping someone will come soon to save you but as more time passes, you realize you're going to die before anyone finds you
I’ve researched the Titanic for many years, and I’ve become mostly numb to all the facts except for one. 56 of the recorded children on board perished. My definition of children being under 16 years old.
I saw the 20th anniversary re-release of the movie in theatres, and as a much more emotionally aware adult I bawled my eyes out to that scene (and the one with the old couple). It turns out 20 years later I am still not over it. ;___;
Growing up we had Titanic in the two-part VHS set. I would bawl my eyes out every single time I watched it, so much so, that my mom forbad me from watching it for months and even hid the VHS cassettes from me. My moms says that I cried like I was mourning the death of each individual person.
The movie while entertaining was far from accurate. We really will never know what everyone did. I find it unlikely a mother would not even try to escape with her children. The instinct to live is very strong even if logic tells you it is hopeless.
I was just recently watching a documentary on the recovery effort. What's even sadder was that some of the people who were identified ended up being buried in Halifax because their families were poor and White Star Line wouldn't pay to ship the bodies home. They also sent an invoice to the family of the band leader, for the cost of the his uniform.
Where did you read this?
@@mimosa27 I didn't read it, I saw it in a documentary. I believe it was Titanic: The Aftermath on Discovery+
White star also tricked survivors, (mostly poor passengers) by having them sign some sort of a settlement where they accept something like change compared to what they could have got if they knew the law better.... They would come to them while still in the hospital sick and or recovering and offer a sickening amount of compensation and of course, not knowing any better, accepted without any legal advice leaving them without the right to sew them in the future .... Sad considering these people lost everything!!!!!
@@TinkrBell8180YES! The other villains in this story, in my opinion. That company was concentrated evil.
There was a documentary made called “Titanic: The Aftermath” which discusses both the bodies AND the development of a mass casualty system that we still use. It’s actually pretty great.
Thank you-I’m going to check that out.
Theres a museum in Halifax with artifacts from the recovery ships which then became funeral ships
Thanks! I'll look for it
Thx for the name of the documentary, watching it now on UA-cam:-)
I seen it too: Titanic: The Aftermath, great story
Just discovered this channel.
1. What a genius channel.
2. Your voice is very calming haha
3. I'm addicted
4. Now I am on an Ask A Mortician marathon
Just found her and I'm SO in love😍
Discovered her channel just today and I'm definitely binge-watching❤
Agree , She fabulous
She is truly a Goddess.
I am glad I'm not the only one sucked in. 😁😅😅😅
I feel like during these oceangate times, we need Caitlin to give us the hour long g lecture and to tell us just how dumb the billionaires are
That's how I ended up here too, after checking out a few videos on the lost submersible...
I think you should also include the CEO of Oceangate and the whole company.
Thank you. I keep hearing these meaningless condolences.
They were five fucking idiots. That’s it.
They were dumb for ignoring the red flags and still going on it for sure, but the CEO is the one who killed them.
On this topic, I heartily recommend the short video that the channel SCI Body Therapy did about this event.
I can't imagine why this reappeared in my thread.
Fun Fact:
The Titanic melody is sung by the danish, swedish AND norwegian Ariel the little mermaid, Sissel Kyrkjebø. That lady's vocals are out of this world!
love this fact i never knew this!
,#0
It may seem obvious or absurd, but what melody? Is it from the movie, the last big movie about it? I made a point to watch as little of that as possible. As my then-spouse said, I already knew how the story would end. Billy Zane did a good job, though.
@@Svensk7119 she's the soprano who sings the recurring vocal melody on Horner's score for the 1997 movie. I've just found out Horner was friends with both her and Celine Dion, who got the famous main theme!
@@albuszx Ah. I presume the melody of which we speak is from the movie with Leonardo Decaprio (Dicaprio?) I remember very little of that film. I never truly sat through it, though I saw bits of it.
Bring on the hour long special!
YESSSS!
in the ocean the bones dissolve in the water whilst the flesh is eaten by fishand hagfish
10/10 would watch
Still waiting...
Please!!
“I’d buy that for a dollar!” ; )
7 years later...I think it's time for the hour long Titanic body video! Recent events made me go back to watch this and I forgot how short it is! We need more of this.
I watched a documentary on Titanic several years ago, and when discussing the possibility of skeletons at the wreckage on the ocean floor, the narrator said 'Even the bones would not have survived in the calcium deprived waters of the Atlantic Ocean', whatever that meant.
IM GUESSING SOME LARGER FISH ATE THE DEAD BODIES.
I'd interpret it as meaning the sea life feasted on the bones.
I looked it up. Deep waters have a high concentration of carbon dioxide, and calcium carbonate is disolved by carbon dioxide.
Sometimes in the 90s, I heard about the hundreds of pairs of shoes they had found on the sea floor, clearly left where the bodies had "landed" in the mud and (I thought to myself) remaining there as the silent grave markers of these people. it always seemed a very poignant idea.
In a short story I read, by Swedish author and historian Lars Jakobson - it opened his collection "Menageri" (1989) and it must have been written after the wreck was discovered by Ballard - the morning when the Mackay-Bennett arrives back at Halifax, stacked with coffins and bodies, is retold through the perspective of a boy and his fisherman father. It's the first real encounter of the boy (maybe twelve years old) with Death, anyway sudden and violent death, and while neither of the two say a word about it, they are clearly affected as they watch, standing with their heads bared looking down onto the harbour from a hillside,
Very good story, it is told in the sparse, restrained manner that a young Hemingway or Richard Ford would have used, and weaves in lots of authentic details that would have come from photos, memories and newspaper articles of the occasion - such as the red skirt found by the ship's crew, tied around the blade of an oar (that's a detail I've been able to retrace myself many years later, but I knew it was true as spon as I read it) - someone's last, desperate attempt to signal for help. :(
Okay I know I’m 3 weeks late but I’ll try to explain
Where titanic currently lies food is extremely scarce. When a whale dies it sinks to the bottom on its way down it starts attracting life. A whale corpse will be on the floor of the ocean for decades to come even after all of the organic bits have been consumed. The bones would be slowly consumed till there’s nothing left. That’s basically what happened to the dead still aboard the titanic, their bodies were consumed by the sea creatures till all that was left was their shoes.
The last time anyone would’ve been able to see a corpse was in the 1930s and all you’d see is bones, maybe fragments of bones at best.
The worst way to go on the titanic would be ones who were trapped in air pockets surviving the journey to the bottom of the ocean floor
Harry Whittaker they would have been crushed.
God damn never thought about that
That's when id contemplate killing myself. I don't know if the passengers thought about suicide , but I know id give it a lot of thought.
Pressure change and cold would kill them
It’s a scary thought. Especially when the lights had went out and you are in pitch black...
You should make a podcast! I wasn't exhausted at all
I second this!
Yesss
agreee!!!!please please Caitlin!!
yesss podcast pleeease
podcast please! we love you!
I can’t even BEGIN to imagine how the families of those whose bodies were never found coped with the loss. It’s has to be the most heart wrenching thing to move on with life without that much needed closure. It’s like a wound that will never heal. So you just deal with the pain day by day by day. Breaks my heart. Truly.
Not to worry! The family members that would remember the Titanic's dead are dead themselves now
With this new story about the sub going missing, I’m invested in titanic history right now. Sooo I need the hour long video lolol thank you
"Look at all these floating treats" killed me.
At least the fishes and other marine creatures got something to eat in return for all the marine life humans catch and devour.
@@carolames7624 That's a great point. We humans, not the Spirit part, as living, breathing flesh are very delicate and that's the code of the living; "to everything, turn, turn, turn, etc."
Fucking grusome af but whatever
I cant change it, it already happened
I think it's been unanimously decided that this needs an hour long special...Go ahead, we'll wait.
Lauren Hayes please
Yup. I’m interested toooo.
youtube recommending me this just now is FOULLL
Rewatching this as the search is going into its last night for the 5 on the Titan submersible… we need to leave this graveyard alone
My Grand father had a ticket for the Titanic. His mother had just given birth so he decided to delay his trip.
What an awesome son!!!
Good man looking out for his mother
Milton Hershey too!
It’s to his credit that he was a good man who cared about his mother! It apparently saved his life!! Perhaps we should all ponder on that and behave better.
@@theladyinblack3055 that can easily be turned into "those who ended up in the Titanic weren't as good sons". Sometimes tragedy strikes even if you behave good.
Im surprised you didnt talk about the shoes! My mum was telling me how she remembered when they first found the titanic and they were bringing up all these artifcats that they found so many pairs of shoes cuz they dont deteriorate the same way as bodies. She remembered it being so eerie because it was like each pair of shoes represented a person who lost their life
I've heard that the CO2 dissolved in the water at pressure helps dissolve the bones after the worms eat the soft tissue. Nothing remains except gold fillings which sink into the sedmient.
She did mention how clothes and more specifically leather doesn't degrade at the same rate as flesh.
You weren't listening close enough. And this should be common sense.
Not this reappearing on my suggestions now that there’re new dead around the titanic 💀💀💀
I’m waiting for the video on Oceangate.
My relative Edward Lockyer died on the Titanic and was buried at sea, after being found. He was very young. It’s all very sad. Well done for this Caitlin, it’s a very tragic topic still resonating with so many people.
That name sounds familiar...
Shark meat. 👈. 🤪
i was one of the few who swam from the titanic to the shore
@@Nan-1017 demonic copycat slaughter; just shows how fashions can be forces for bad things; one rotten apple affects those around
tv - people want tp be famous by any means...tv helicopters following free way car chases, so called joy riding, helps to create the crimes - rebel teens think its fun, but sadly often loss of life
Tribal spirits are affecting peoples minds, the mind is the battle ground satan in fighting on; people mentally ill due to personal sin and demons
The devil, the sinful flesh, and the world is the 'trinity' of evil, all working together.
Father, Christ the Son, & the Holy Spirit is the Trinity of good news, to look to, bow down to.... He will bring good
Repent, melt down the guns, knives, use them for sowing good, enhancing life - eg make em into plough shares
sorry for your familys loss i hope you find comfort in the movies and repect
I don't know how I got here, I don't know why I'm here, but I ain't leaving. You are so charismatic
Yh HE is ain't he 😆
I remember seeing a video of the area surrounding the sunken Titanic. There were a pair of boots side by side, sitting upright, and perfectly aligned. I thought it was odd that the boots would be side by side after having fallen all that way to the bottom then it occurred to me that at one time there was a person wearing those boots and over time the critters at the bottom ate everything but the boots.
Holy fuck what a recommendation. time for a rewatch 🕺
About 6 years ago I was curious about that exact question and discovered online there's reports of 'masses of bodies' floating on the surface for weeks after the disaster by passing ships, they also reported masses of wreck debris floating on the surface. I actually plotted out the location of the different masses on Google Earth day by day. You can see it drift with the Gulf Stream current back toward Europe for a while then start to drift south and out of the shipping lane. After that the reports stopped.
Fascinating.
Sad, of course, but fascinating.
woah
coordinates?
@@kendothugs www.paullee.com/titanic/ice.html 1/3rd down the page they start
Good research 👍
are you kidding? i'd definitely watch an hour special on this!
love this, as usual, caitlin. :)
I'm here , like you because of Ocean Gate ..... hello there
Love how this started appearing in my feed now that the submarine incident gone viral.
I actually have a relative who was on the Titanic when it hit the iceberg. His body was never found. Before his death he was helping women and children into lifeboats. From the information I gathered he helped save a lot of people that day. My distant relative died a hero. It's sad to think about though, that he and so many other people didn't make it.
Caitlin Peters same here, but for me it’s a far distant cousin who was the bandmaster, Wallace Henry Hartley. He’s pretty distant but my cousin does a lot of genealogical research and discovered that a few years back when he dove deep.
How could there possibly be stories of what a man did moments before a highly stressful event. How did you gather this information? Sounds like you just made half of that up....
Or at least that’s what you were told
I have a question. I can’t help but wonder how you would know this considering he died on the boat. There obviously wasn’t cell phones back then to tweet “ I’m saving lives rn” jw..? Lol
THRESH00 ^^ LoL Im wondering same thing.. didn’t see your comment before mine lmao
People-in-a-lifeboat omg... Waiting in the middle of the ocean to die from hunger/thrist... Never heard of those, God, probably the worst deaths of the Titanic
No, they had died the same night the ship sank. The boat was just never collected by the rescue ships.
sinlobo84 that was collapsible A which was never properly set up before the ship went down, so those people actually died within the few hours between swimming to the lifeboat and when the Carpathia arrived. I believe it was Officer Lowe that picked up whoever was still alive in it during the rescue time. The boat was flooded and in danger of sinking. He left whoever was dead still in the lifeboat at that time, that’s why they were still there. If they had been alive, they would’ve been picked up by Carpathia.
@@cookieaddictions Thanks. I don't know much about Titanic. Were all lifeboats accounted for?
@@seththomas9105 yes and no. Since the ship was so ill prepared for an emergency, not all of the lifeboats had even been deployed. So on top of them not being able to hold all the passengers to begin with, in the chaos, there was more than one broken/ released improperly (and likely broken or capsized), or not released at all and broke apart as the boat sank. But the ones known to have been deployed were accounted for.
@@PhoenixVEM Thanks. It makes me sick to know that possibly a few hundred more people could have been saved had the boats been packed to capacity and deployed quickly.
My great grandfather would've been on it but lost his ticket playing cards to some artist named jack
Two of my great great uncles died on the Titanic. They were brothers, quite young, on their big adventure to go to America, one was a steward and one an engineer. Their bodies were recovered in the water and buried in the Titanic cemetery in Nova Scotia but the families in England were too poor to visit the graves. So their mother was given the wallets and pocket watches but there was never a funeral.
One of my Uncles was born shortly after the Titanic went down (by minutes, not days), and he always claimed that he had been a passenger on the Titanic. So, maybe, one of your great great Uncles became my Uncle ...
what is that profile picture bro
@@kevfriend5258 exactly
@@kevfriend5258 my profile pic?
I like your art - I actually Googled it. :)
Thank you for sharing information about this subject which continue to fascinate. Many of us are "old school," learners, and we don't tire quickly while viewing a long presentation posted online. We look forward to viewing your "hour long" presentation about Titanic Dead. Thank you.
What’s eerie is how over 500,000 items were spread within 10 square miles on the seabed, how unlikely it would be for matching shoes to land next to one another, and the fact that they have found many pairs of matching shoes next to one another suggests that there were bodies in those spots.
so the shoe thing is a very highly debated topic. Matching shoes are not as unlikely as you would think, and the matching shoes does not necessarily mean that they were on a person at the time. It was a common thing for first class passengers to place their shoes outside their cabin and a steward would come by and pick them up for polishing and cleaning, the person picking up the shoes would commonly tie the shoes together and apply a tag to identify where the shoes belong. I believe that the area where these shoes would be stored is in the "area of destruction" were the ship split thus spilling the shoes out. Additionally a lot of the other shoes found and some of the clothing upon further inspections by experts have found that while they appear a body may have been there the clothes are actually laying in the remains of a suitcase that once held them. The whole shoe theory came about in the time after the wreck was discovered when there was a lot of talk about and a lot of pressure on finding the bodies, it was one of the objectives to the research bob Ballard and his team was doing on the site. Ken Marschall(a well known titanic artist and historian) who worked for Ballard at the time examining photos of the wreck discovered the matching sets of shoes and after presenting it to Ballard it was felt that due to the placement that that had to be the remains and since there was so much pressure at the time to find the bodies it caught traction and became a thing of "fact" but in the decades since through further and more thorough research it seems this may be unlikely due to the fact a lot of the shoes found are tied together or are in the remnants of suitcases, and keep in mind, it is believed a good majority of passengers had lifejackets on so they would have stayed on the surface for quite a long time even those inside the ship would have not floated out and landed on the sea floor, additionally in more recent research it is not believe there were actually that many people who would have gone down with the ship.
It is plausible that the shoe theory is correct and that the shoes do represent dead bodies? Yes I feel is completely plausible but unfortunately we have no real proof and no real way of proving it and you can ask several people about this particular topic and get several differing opinions and thoughts, this particular topic is a pretty hot and controversial issue in the Titanic community
Sea burials is easily enough to answer.
The bodies were wrapped in unoiled canvas with a weight added to inside it then it was sewed shut. Placed onto a longboard & sea prayer spoken then they tip the board & the weighted body slips down into the seawater. As the more verses of the sea prayer spoken then the victims are each tipped into the seawater for its final resting place on the seabed when they didn't have enough time to reach port onboard the search ships & not enough speed before bodies began decomposition.
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The sea burials bother me. As they collected bodies, they were determining which ones might be identified. And which ones had no hope of identification. The bodies with no hope they reburied at sea. The hopeful ones they embalmed on board.
IMO, they embalmed the ones that looked like they had money, and released at sea the ones who looked poor. 😠😭
Also don't forget at those depth just the sheer pressure would cause bodies to implode. Your not gonna find any remains at that depth
@@derekninabuck5359 The Bismarck has a field of boots, same deal next to each other. Most are marching boots (jackboots), you cannot tie them together. If anything, the Bismarck wreck supports the facts that those were bodies.
My three of four times Great Aunt's Aunt died in the sinking. She survived. She was traveling with her Aunt to American where she could study. They came from Ireland and her Aunt had lived in Chicago for some time. She visited her niece in Ireland and waited to go back on Titanic. They boarded on Queenstown, with a group of 12. They were attending a party in third class on the night of the collision. The Aunt was uncomfortable because of the men who were drinking. She was a rebel as any teenager would today and wanted to stay. She was having fun. They went back to their room anyway. They were awoken by a steward to go up on deck sometime after the collision. The two woman were separated somehow after that. Ann (my 3 times or what ever great aunt) got into lifeboat 13. As they pulled into port in New York, a sailor shouted, “Look! There’s the statue of liberty! Take a good look at the other side...because you’ll never go back.”
She said she never would. She never went on a ship or boat for the rest of her life. She lived till she was 95. And was 15 at the time of sinking but was listed at 17.
LIAR 😆
Very interesting story. Thanks for sharing
The Addergoole 14! I watched a documentary about them recently!
this is so cool thank you for sharing!
Wow! Great piece of family history. Thanks.
James Cameron definitely made Titanic so he could get someone to finance all his trips to the Titanic
He admitted as much
Among other financial gains in other ways...
Well, he seems to enjoy deep sea diving anyway. Didn't he explore some of Challenger Deep as well?
@@isrulius where did he admit as much?
I think it's fine to explore the Titanic like any other piece of historical items from our past but it's a whole different thing if they so much as remove one article from the site of this sacred site. That would be wrong if anyone under any circumstances did.
This is the very first Ask a Mortician I ever watched..and now I’ve seen ALMOST all of them-and I’ve read your books (well-I’m currently reading Smoke Gets In Your Eyes). Thank you for teaching me about myself, I now know I am indeed a Deathling! 😃
I love your videos! After recently losing my dear father, he passed away peacefully at home holding my hand knowing he was deeply loved, I find your videos comforting even the slightly darker ones :)
The story of the collapsible life boat that was found a month later and 200 miles away was really eerie. They just saw three corpses just laying there in a decrepit life boat. They were horribly decomposed and when they tried to pick them up, some of the bodies just fell apart. Grim work for sure.
Tender.
I hear the swimming pool on the Titanic is still full of water.
No no no. This same joke has been said on every video ever made about the titanic multiple times. Get a new one bud.
First time I've heard it, and it was FUNNY 😎
First time I have heard it too.
#toosoon
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This was also my first time hearing this joke
there are pairs of shoes all over the debris field... some how all these shoes just happened to land on the bottom with its matching pair.... most likely the bodies sank and all thats left is the shoes
I personally would love to hear that hour long video about this subject! Oh and I’m really loving you and your videos, don’t stop making them, please
I have visited the Titanic grave sites on several occasions in Halifax, Nova Scotia and it is quite the tourist attraction with bus tours visiting from the USA. Most of the graves just have a number and death date and a few are identified.
I remember during our visit seeing one grave with the grass worn almost completely away by foot traffic and fresh flowers at it. Name on the marker: Jack Dawson
The Titanic museum in Halifax is also pretty cool to go to
I live in Sydney Australia, and a huge Titanic enthusiast, in 1994 when I was 30 I took my first big trip to the states and Canada, and one thing I wanted to do was to go to Fairview cemetery in Halifax, to see the Titanic graves and the maritime museum of the Atlantic. I would say that was the best part of the trip. Even better than going to New York!
@@JohnLee-pt5jz idk as someone who lives in Queensland Australia in the forestry, visiting New York would be otherworldly to me compared to that
Lots of dead from Southampton also.
"What are these floating treats" #dead 😂😂😂
As horrific as it sounds, sea birds, fish, and any and all smaller creatures look on dead bodies as food and could care less if they are human or not. We may as well be bits of burrito or weinershnitzel to them. Those bodies that did make it to the bottom would have been consumed by deep sea scavengers like hagfish, crabs, worms, deep sea sharks, rattail fish and a host of other beasties (because as opportunists they don't waste any time), any remaining organic matter would have been decomposed by smaller organisms over time. It's doubtful that any bodies remained after a year exposed to the open ocean floor, bones somewhat longer, although some remains may possibly be preserved inside the wreck if certain conditions were met. Considering the length of time microorganisms have had to break down any organic remains, odds are extremely against that though.
Being trapped in a sinking ship is my worst nightmare, next to being in a car sinking into deep water
Don't forget about the people who died by drowning in the elevators. Try explaining that one to St. Pete.
Just like the Titanic, #dead
Circle of life muther effers!
I would love an hour long special on this.
Not us here after the titan disaster cos Caitin mentioned a fear of dying underwater.
love this lady she helped me get through my little sister death she was 27 by watching her videos made me feel at peace with death
I know this is an old video, but the Titanic and everything about it is one of my wife's special interests, so I just have to share this: My favorite fact is that James Cameron's entire reason for making the movie was so that he could basically get a studio to pay for him to go down and see the wreck. He got his passion project funded under the guise of "Yeah, sure, I'll make a historical romance about the most famous shipwreck ever. But could you fund dives to the wreck? For...research. For the movie." That is why he's one of the leading experts and has been to the ship so many times. The Titanic is James Cameron's special interest.
I have relatives in Halifax Nova Scotia and was so blessed to be able to see the Titanic graveyard. It was beautiful, haunting and tragic. The weight of this tragedy weighed on me the rest of the trip and I could almost feel the heartache. Not to mention the massive explosion that happened in Halifax on dec 6th, 1917...only 5 years later killing 1782 people
I always appreciate your presentations. Thanks for all the work you do before you bring them to us.
I’ve seen pieces from the titanic at a museum and the water pressure crushed cast iron I could only imagine what it would do to a body it would be unrecognizable (condensed crab meal)
When I was about 5 or 6 but I think I saw a shoe from the titanic in a museum
I mean look at pictures of the stern and how mangled it is
@@HinataElyonToph it did hit the floor at speed...
thank you for that visual Jeff
It's only going to crush anything because it's got a hollow bit inside - was a sealed vessel. A human body is not a sealed vessel. The liquid in the body will sort of balance itself so nobody ends up quarter their height or squashed like a pancake.
Just saying, I would totally be down for an hour-long video on this.
Me too!
Yep me 2
Count me in.
Colleen McCarthy - ditto.
me too
As of a few days ago it is now 1505 dead
I wonder why this is getting recommended right now?
When Robert Ballard discovered the Titanic in 1985, since it was in International Waters, he had the right to claim it as salvage. In fact, some of his crew started using submersibles and baskets to recover items from the sea floor. Ballard didn't see a problem with this but as he watched one submersible picking up shoes and eyeglasses he told them to stop and put everything back. He saw it as a giant graveyard and wanted it left as undisturbed as possible. He would say several times in the years to follow that NOT claiming it was a huge mistake on his part as it would have kept dozens of different groups and companies from collecting items from the site to sell on the internet.
Not gonna lie, I was hoping for a link to an hour long special. The Titanic has always been a strange obsession of mine and I've always wondered what happened to the bodies. Of all the books I've read, specials I've watched and museums I've been to, everyone fails to mention that part. Thanks for this vid! :)
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My ex wife rolled her eyes when I watched shows about the Titanic. Once the movie came out and PBS , History channel etc played them she made me watch them again.
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Right? I thought I was the only one! I’m so fascinated by the events of the RMS Titanic.
I got the Titanic bluray and if you watch it with comments they tell you about the research behind it all and which video is the actual Titanic and what is CG. I found it very interesting. I think there are 3 different commentary options, the most interesting being all the research that went into it. Like why bodies that were in the ship aren't on the Titanic as it is now and how certain things like the types of wood and metal react with a sinking.
"Dead bodies don't just disappear" That's exactly what happened to the people on the titan😵💫
A million thanks for the plethora of information provided here. It is very informative. Most of us are looking forward to that hour special!
I live in Halifax right next to the cemetery where a large amount of the dead were buried. It is a fascinating spot with a lot of history. People often bring toys to the grave of an unidentified 2 year old child.
that's both sad and adorable
Plus that popular "J. Dawson" grave!
I don't remember the name of the child, but he was identified a few years ago.
Whoops, one might want to let the Maritime Museum know.
Jany, have any of them been identified and named? My family lost 5 people on the Titanic, we've never known where they 'ended up'. Two adults and three children.
My phone is definitely listening to my conversations. My friend recommended you to me and boom you appear in my recommended
Once I noticed it seems to happen all of the time. Scared the bananas out of me the first time. Now I just ask it to show me stuff.
I like to mess with the advertisers. I put a watch on eBay for quarter million dollar engagement rings and exotic cars. Started getting Rolex catalogs in the mail. Have fun with them.
Yes it does .when u let apps access your phone that is why "to better your experience and related topics " try saying things outloud and try messaging about a topic and see what happens.its scary but awesome but weird but its kinda whatever at this point cause u have no choice when it comes to the cia listening in and controlling software.
It happened to me. Turn off your microphone on your phone. That stops it. However I've still got problems with it listening on my messages. If anyone's got a suggestion for that I'm all ears. Pun intended.
Oh God, I just THINK about something and it pops up! Yikes!
I’m amazed that I can learn so much from you in less than 6 minutes
Your videos are utterly amazing. They are pertinent, informed, intelligent, interesting, arresting, and extremely watchable. You keep the interest going until the very end. Brilliant. More, please!!!
Another point you may be interested to know, the embalming and storage techniques developed on The Mackay Bennett were invaluable five years later, on Dec 6, 1917 when the Halifax Explosion struck. That disaster saw over 9000 wounded, and 2000 dead. The entire city was devastated. It was actually the largest man made explosion on earth until the Atomic bomb was invented.
There's a rectangular hill on Bayers Rd, surrounded by a fence with a small headstone at one end. It's a large mass grave where all the unidentifiable pieces of bodies were buried. You may want to research it it was very interesting, if tragic, event.
We still send Boston a Christmas tree every year as thanks, as they sent the first relief trains.
I've never heard about this explosion. Thanks for information🤗 about to do research.
I didn't know about the mass grave on Bayers Rd. I am going to check it out.
I read a book about that. Historical fiction.
That’s really cool, about the tree!
Natalya Porter No, it really happened.
Any upload I see is an instant stop-drop-and-watch. Sorry, lunch dishes, but you'll just hafta wait.
Bye lunch dishes. Bye bye. L8r.
Pretty much the same thing. I was like "NOAP! Supernatural season finale, you're just going to have to wait."
I have to agree. I LOVE her videos, and her personality just seals the deal 😊
Same here!
Me too! She's fantastic :D
I’d absolutely watch an hour long special on this!
☹️ we weren't finished, time for the hour long deep dive into this please.
You know when I first started watching your videos, I was a little scared and hesitant. But now I watch more and more and I really like that you’re educating people on death. Its actually helped me be more at ease about the subject. Thank you for all that you do. Be safe out there.
Her video helped me educate a friend who recently lost her sister about what the funeral homes can and can't do in regards to her body and about how they didn't have to pay such a ridiculous price and that they could take her body and go anywhere else if they wanted to. She is really amazing and very helpful, because my friend would have been taken for a ride.....
Yea, her name should be Deatherine .. never heard of this before 'till I came across a blog and that was the writer's name ..
I just feel so sad when it comes to the Titanic story. Imagine how scared they must have been. Thanks for sharing.
You know when you think about it the aspect of travel hasn't really changed since Titanic it's just modernized. OKAY if we convert the cost into modern money adjusting for inflation. A 3rd class ticket cost about $800 for adults and $550 for children. A 2nd class ticket cost about $2,500 for adults and $1,500 for children. 1st class had packages starting at $10,000 going up to $70,000. NOW.. what dose a cheap flight across the Atlantic run you these days about $800 more/less. And maybe some airlines might let small children on for $5/$600. If you have the financial resources to charter you and your people a private jet I sapose that could run you about $70,000. Eaither way if the plane crashes you'll have a problem. Just like you'll have a problem if the ship is sinking. So it's just basically modernized. Me personally okay I actually can afford $2,500 HOWEVER I'd opt for 3rd class because I'd rather spend the $800 and have more money left. I DON'T have $70,000. And honestly I don't know anyone who has $70,000 that they can afford to spend on that as if they were paying a phone bill.. ALSO I think as we all realize.. for example 2 adult's and 3 children.. tickets for the family combined that's over $3,000 in today's money. It's obviously going to take effort and financial planning and saving for somebody making a low wages $10/$12/hour someplace to get $3,000 together obviously somebody with a career making a $50,000 salary 2nd class for a family is going to be in easier financial reach. AND WELL like I said and I'll say it again.. I don't have $70,000 I don't know anyone who dose and I'm guessing you probably don't eaith. And IF I had $70,000 and was in such a position to spend it in that that would indicate I'd have 10s of millions $.. I don't and I don't think you or anyone else out here does eaither
Also you've seen the movie. The plot line of Jack and Rose is fictional. However Jack say ( I have $10 in my pocket) today that's effectively nothing. $10 back then = about $280 today. As I'm sure we understand drop someone off in New York with no job no place to live just a backpack and give them $280. WELL obviously that no real money in the overall course of things. I mean sure you'll be able to eat fast food and ride the subway however just how long will $280 last??? The only advantage is back in 1912 you might actually be able to get some type of work in a day or 2.. asking around.. they wouldn't tell you to go piss around on the internet obviously
Oh and in New York around 1912 you could rent a spot on the floor to sleep for the night for a quarter.. that's about $7/$8 today.. NOT a room.. just a room in a lodging house ware you'll be sleeping on the floor among a dozen other people.. at least if you're a male.. if you're a female ( maybe) some places had a room for just females. Other places.. if you're a female.. well.. you.. can rent for the night.. be advised.. we assume no responsibility if things go wrong.. as they were working on code enforcement to have separate floor spaces for males and females as so not to be running a brothel.. however still not exactly regulated.. like today.. it's worth mentioning that in my travels in Latin America I did find floor space for $5 U S./ Night.. this house had 2 rooms upstairs. 1 for men and 1 for women.. I slept on the floor with 4 or 5 guys. And the 1 lady passing through she got the floor space to herself that night because she just happened to be the only woman in transit.. traveling through that night.. however she had nobody to talk to and play a bord game with. I personally just went to sleep because I had to depart early while a couple guys were up playing a bord game..
I like to think that God stopped them from suffering too much but maybe that is a fairy story
@@carlgharis7948 who are you talking to? Your replies are completely unrelated to the comment you are replying to. Also, very condescending in tone
Great video - still very relevant
This would be a great hour long special, especially now there are 5 more deceased down there.
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