What I miss from the Mondasian Cybermen is the lack of a mouth. The mouth is under the cloth mask, not distinguished in any way, and when the actor under the mask gaped his mouth open, not opening and closing as the creature spoke, we just see the cloth move to show the open, gaping mouth. Like the mouth was just a speaker for an artificial voice box. That absolutely terrified me as a small boy, and I remember the feeling of seeing it for the first time to this day
I just love how you can still identify the Cybermen as human in their 10th Planet or Colony Ship design. Keeping the mouth open to talk or being able to see the eyes partially is wonderfully upsetting and creepy.
Any design that indicates that the Cybermen are a melding the organic and technological is a winner for me. Which is why I love the exposed chin on the Earthshock variant. It's a shame that future iterations in Eighties Doctor Who would cover up the jawline of the Cyberman helmet.
If we get a new design for RTD2, we need to lean more into the horror aspect. Go back towards the Mondasian style with a modern update. Like we saw in WEaT
I still really want to see Cybermen pull from zombies as inspiration - not necessarily the hunger for brains or anything, but the slow, undeterred resilience even in the face of their own body almost falling apart. I want to see a Cyberman get blasted and fall down - small pause for celebration - only for the Cyberman to get back up, still determined to convert people into Cybermen in spite of their compromised body. They're primarily built to survive, so I'm surprised we've yet to see one in a mangled state but still alive, still determined to make others like it. Neil Gaiman's Nightmare in Silver had the potential to show Cybermen like this, but unfortunately the Cybermen just upgraded past any obstacles they encountered, which just felt kinda bullshitty given that they were physical obstacles, not a complex and elaborate plan or some form of trickery. They got electrocuted by a moat and blasted by a big laser gun, yet somehow upgraded past it without any extra materials or development. It just felt cheap.
Mine top pick will always be the Invasion Cyberman design, absolutely iconic and closely following them the Revenge of the Cybermen design, both soldier and Cyber Leader
Many years ago, I had an idea for a Cyberman, but with a twist in that similar to the Ice Warriors in Curse of Paladon, Set on an unknown artificial planet in the middle of a seemingly empty and long ago destroyed region of space where nothing is supposed to exist, these Cybermen are not antagonistic,c but The Doctor thinks they're the enemy and the Cybermen until he finds out that they're for once non-hostile and that there's an even greater threat that's causing the mysterious disappearances that are affecting both the stranded human colony the Cybermen, are protecting/studying. The Cybermen themselves, the Doctor, then have to join forces with these renegade Cybermen against an extra=dimentional invasion from an ancient and powerful race from the Dark Times who are returning, the Primal Chaos Lords (aka the original Titans). The Cybermen in this idea was split into two types. One version, which was the main warrior Cybermen resembled the Tomb Cybermen and the Mondassian-looking scientist Cybermen. There was also a third unique cyberman idea called the Cyber-Brain, which had the body of a mondassian Cyberman but with the Invasion-style chest unit, and its head resembled a cross between the Tomb Cybercontriller and a Raston Warrior Robor, except it had flashing lights within it's blank 'face' and it was hooked up to several Cyber-Coorindator machines.
Your 7 & 8 would be my #1 & 2. Dead last on any list is anything related to the Cyber-Masters, the very idea of Time Lords being Cybermen is still so very stupid and hard to fathom someone was dumb enough to write that into the story. OMG make it stop!!
My favorites will always be The Invasion Cybermen followed closely by the ones from The Flood! I actually really like the drop from the mouth that the Wheel ones have but I don't like the rest of that design too much but would actually really like to see the mouth drop return!
Believe it or not, Whovians around the world back in 1996 actually wanted the late Alan Rickman (Professor Snape, Harry Potter) to play the Doctor with Courtney Cox as his companion Charlotte for a Doctor Who movie called Genesis of the Cybermen but sadly that amazing and wonderful movie was never made. WBD is also planning on reboot the Harry Potter movie franchise this new year 2023 for HBO Max, soon to be called Plus when WBD merges it with Discovery Plus and it would be wonderful or amazing if WBD produced The NeverEnding Story reboot some time this year or next in 2024 🤞🤔...
Dalek seth made an interesting "middle child/half way point" between the invasion/revenge design and the earthshock 80s cybermen and they look pretty dope the tear drops on earthshock eske cybermen are ok, you can go either way with that
My theory: The original teardrop and mouthdrop was used to mount the silver rings around the mouths and eyes of the Cybermen in Moonbase and Tomb. But in Wheel, they didn't have those, but they used the same head mould, leaving the mounting holes visible.
Perhaps a more chilling route to go with the CyberMasters' basic concept would be to reference one of 12's lines from World Enough And Time, where he says that cybermen are a phenomenon which repeatedly occur over and over across the universe. Consider that by Series 9 the Time Lords had safely parked themselves at the end of time away from all other threats. What happens when the universe itself starts to fail and die, long after even the Toclafane have vanished? They could go back to the past, but that would more than likely start another Time War. They could leave for other parts as Division did, but, seeing as Division hasn't been associated with Gallifrey directly since the universe was young, they may lack the ability to. At the very end, Me's reality bubble began to collapse, and that would likely happen far sooner at a planetary scale. what's the best option for them in this situation? To get an upgrade, to transform themselves into mechanical, infinitely regenerating horrors to survive. From there, some nutcase like Rassilon could go back in time to try to spread this "perfection" to everyone else before it's too late. The Time Lords spread a genetic virus to cause other species to evolve in their own image, so it's not out of character, and there could also be another dimension added to it, in that they're coming back from the end of everything as prophets with a warning, revealing that their modifications, though horrific, will prove to be the only way to stay alive in the end. As the last sparks of life in a cold, dead universe, their desire to convert others might stem from, or even be superseded by, a fundamental need to continue doing the one thing they've done since the very beginning. Survive.
You did miss one variant of the Cyberiad Cybermen [Nightmare is silver], A leader version does exist, and made a brief cameo in Death In Heaven, as the nod to Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart shows that The Brigadier had black handles, indicating he was converted into a Leader.
In terms of the New Series Cybermen, it's a tie between the Cybus and Warrior designs. I would rank the Warrior ones above the Cybus ones as I love the modern design of the Invasion Cybermen, but the issue is that they lack the talking light mouth from the Cybus and even the 2013 designs. And before you say that there's other Cybermen that don't have a moving mouth, I know that But it's a feature I'm used to with these metal men, plus it's easier to know which one is talking. Even then, the Cybus ones are nostalgia to me as they were the ones that got me into the Cybermen in the first place.
Great video. I used to love the look of the Cybermen from Silver Nemesis but agree they've aged badly. I feel the Cyber Controller from Attack Of The Cybermen would have been better if they didn't resort to Michael Kilgariff reprising his role after 18 years where is it clear he wasn't a slender as he was in the 60's (nothing personal Mr. Kilgariff). Another actor could've easily passed it off but I also feel the Controller lacks the menace of the one from Tomb Of The Cybermen. I love the Earthshock Cybermen and David Banks performance certainly elevated things.
100% either the cybus cyberman are the best or the invasion cybermen I have more appreciation for the invasion ones because of cyberman big finish story so good I also like the modasian cybermen/ tenth planet ones I think the series 10 2 parter made them seem sad and creepy
Why do people keep saying the Cybershades are converted cats & dogs? The Cybershades look more like converted gorillas than cats & dogs. (Would LOVE to see a cyber-puppy on the side of the good guys in a kid friendly cartoon spin-off though!)
I genuinely can’t stand the Warrior look. The heads are OUTSTANDING, and then the entirety of everything below the neck is abysmal. They somehow managed to make the Nightmare in Silver costumes look far better by comparison. What’s up with the weird pointy pattern on the stomach? It looks so plain and incredibly cheap. It’s like they just decided to slap as much pointless detail onto the costume as possible. And don’t even get me started on the shoulder spikes.
I just listened to spare parts as my first big finish thing, and it was amazing. I still love the later cyber faction Cybermen as my favourite, but the mondans are still so creepy, and over motivated to survive
The Cybermen were defeated. The victors of a billion battles broken. An Empire of might and terror fallen. Their weaknesses exploited. Their armies outfought. Their conquests surrendered. Every empire has its time. And every empire falls. But that which is dead can live again... ..in the hands of a believer.
I really hate that glowing chest thing on the Nightmare ones. And not because "Oh, it looks like Iron-Man". It just feels off. Like the chest area is where they should have like an artificial lung, and a heart respiration, and then you had this big like cylinder taking up space. Is it an energy source? If it is, why is it visible? That feels like a design flaw. And why is it glowing? That would be so uncomfortable to wear, you have this thing on your chests that's glowing the whole time, and probably producing heat. It also just makes them feel more like robots. Like that thing turns off when they die. But that makes no sense, the human inside is the power source, and the onboard computer and all of that stuff, but this thing indicating when they're alive, or dead or asleep kinda makes it seem like the armor is the cyberman, and not the human inside.
Honestly I just can't get into the new cybermen from the Chibnall era. I absolutely hate the Cyber Masters both in terms of their design and backstory. The Cyber Warriors aren't terrible, but I do dislike the head design and the more ornate designs for the stomach area and shoulders. Where the handlebars connect should not be the same size of the actual head. I honestly think the Cybus Cybermen and the Nightmare in Silver designs are the best designs of the new era.
Yeah the wooden design, based on the nightmare in silver, it's just too complicated. It makes me think of the suitcase iron man armor, or mark 5. It's too detailed and not unique, especially for the wooden armor you'd think the design would be simpler, but no. Also from the point onwards that they had arm guns. Why not both arms? It's essentially a robot, you could pack the entire thing full of weaponry, why wouldn't you? Same problem with the Daleks. Helmet gun? That's cool. Why not have that too? The Cybus is perfection:)
Silver Nemesis was '88, not' 87. 25th anniversary season - silver anniversary, hence silver nemesis. Also, why put the Cybershades in there if not the Cyber-King. Hell, Handles has more of a prominent role in any story than the stealth Cybermen! At least Handles spoke!
The only thing I don't like about the Chibnall era cyber warriors is the spikes on the shoulders. Why would the Cybermen need spiky shoulders? Other than the spikes the plain cyber-warriors of the Chibnall era are by far my favourite of NuWho
You don’t get the point tharries the cyber masters are timelords in cyberman body’s the fact they took so long to do this concept is crazy it’s such an evil and cool idea the only reason people hate on it is because it’s chibnall if it was rtd then everyone would like it
I'm sure I heard that Robert Holmes's original plot for The Five Doctors was the Cybermen trying to gain regeneration (before Terrance Dicks ended up writing the special).
i really dont like the bulky "buscuit tin" heads the cyber warriors have its terrible for visiblity and you have no peripheral vision or depth perception, you could run circles round those guys and the heads are just one big target, easy to decapitate, it looks out of proportion to the body
The earthshock is by far the worst I’m sorry I don’t like them they act to human and the voices suck they are just not cyberman even the cyberleader sounds like a terrible voice actor
Earthshock is a good story but yeah, you don't need the cybermen for it, especially with their emotive lines. In fact, I think the doctor even pointed out the emotions of the leader. Doctor : "Fondness. I'm surprised you understand the meaning of that word." Leader : "It is a word like any other"
What I miss from the Mondasian Cybermen is the lack of a mouth. The mouth is under the cloth mask, not distinguished in any way, and when the actor under the mask gaped his mouth open, not opening and closing as the creature spoke, we just see the cloth move to show the open, gaping mouth. Like the mouth was just a speaker for an artificial voice box.
That absolutely terrified me as a small boy, and I remember the feeling of seeing it for the first time to this day
Hey, thanks for the shout-out @Tharries.
Also I'm very impressed with your Earthshock Cyberman voice. Well done. 👏👏👏
I love the Silver Nemesis ones. That chrome really makes them look like something of a 60s sci fi novel cover.
I just love how you can still identify the Cybermen as human in their 10th Planet or Colony Ship design. Keeping the mouth open to talk or being able to see the eyes partially is wonderfully upsetting and creepy.
Curious where the cyberwoman from torchwood would’ve ranked? 😂
Really excited for the future of this channel! 2023 is going to be full of surprises
agreed
Any design that indicates that the Cybermen are a melding the organic and technological is a winner for me. Which is why I love the exposed chin on the Earthshock variant. It's a shame that future iterations in Eighties Doctor Who would cover up the jawline of the Cyberman helmet.
If we get a new design for RTD2, we need to lean more into the horror aspect. Go back towards the Mondasian style with a modern update. Like we saw in WEaT
I still really want to see Cybermen pull from zombies as inspiration - not necessarily the hunger for brains or anything, but the slow, undeterred resilience even in the face of their own body almost falling apart. I want to see a Cyberman get blasted and fall down - small pause for celebration - only for the Cyberman to get back up, still determined to convert people into Cybermen in spite of their compromised body.
They're primarily built to survive, so I'm surprised we've yet to see one in a mangled state but still alive, still determined to make others like it.
Neil Gaiman's Nightmare in Silver had the potential to show Cybermen like this, but unfortunately the Cybermen just upgraded past any obstacles they encountered, which just felt kinda bullshitty given that they were physical obstacles, not a complex and elaborate plan or some form of trickery. They got electrocuted by a moat and blasted by a big laser gun, yet somehow upgraded past it without any extra materials or development. It just felt cheap.
Great video, mate. I find all of the 60's designs really chilling despite the work boots and zip up jackets.
take a shot every time tharries says “these boys” lmao
Mine top pick will always be the Invasion Cyberman design, absolutely iconic and closely following them the Revenge of the Cybermen design, both soldier and Cyber Leader
Many years ago, I had an idea for a Cyberman, but with a twist in that similar to the Ice Warriors in Curse of Paladon, Set on an unknown artificial planet in the middle of a seemingly empty and long ago destroyed region of space where nothing is supposed to exist, these Cybermen are not antagonistic,c but The Doctor thinks they're the enemy and the Cybermen until he finds out that they're for once non-hostile and that there's an even greater threat that's causing the mysterious disappearances that are affecting both the stranded human colony the Cybermen, are protecting/studying. The Cybermen themselves, the Doctor, then have to join forces with these renegade Cybermen against an extra=dimentional invasion from an ancient and powerful race from the Dark Times who are returning, the Primal Chaos Lords (aka the original Titans). The Cybermen in this idea was split into two types. One version, which was the main warrior Cybermen resembled the Tomb Cybermen and the Mondassian-looking scientist Cybermen. There was also a third unique cyberman idea called the Cyber-Brain, which had the body of a mondassian Cyberman but with the Invasion-style chest unit, and its head resembled a cross between the Tomb Cybercontriller and a Raston Warrior Robor, except it had flashing lights within it's blank 'face' and it was hooked up to several Cyber-Coorindator machines.
That’s sounds awesome actually!
Your 7 & 8 would be my #1 & 2.
Dead last on any list is anything related to the Cyber-Masters, the very idea of Time Lords being Cybermen is still so very stupid and hard to fathom someone was dumb enough to write that into the story. OMG make it stop!!
I really love the Big Finish 9th Doctor design!
My favorites will always be The Invasion Cybermen followed closely by the ones from The Flood! I actually really like the drop from the mouth that the Wheel ones have but I don't like the rest of that design too much but would actually really like to see the mouth drop return!
Believe it or not, Whovians around the world back in 1996 actually wanted the late Alan Rickman (Professor Snape, Harry Potter) to play the Doctor with Courtney Cox as his companion Charlotte for a Doctor Who movie called Genesis of the Cybermen but sadly that amazing and wonderful movie was never made. WBD is also planning on reboot the Harry Potter movie franchise this new year 2023 for HBO Max, soon to be called Plus when WBD merges it with Discovery Plus and it would be wonderful or amazing if WBD produced The NeverEnding Story reboot some time this year or next in 2024 🤞🤔...
Although not in live action I have always loved the Flood Cybermen - something leak but feels otherworldly too, almost beautiful.
Dalek seth made an interesting "middle child/half way point" between the invasion/revenge design and the earthshock 80s cybermen and they look pretty dope
the tear drops on earthshock eske cybermen are ok, you can go either way with that
My theory: The original teardrop and mouthdrop was used to mount the silver rings around the mouths and eyes of the Cybermen in Moonbase and Tomb. But in Wheel, they didn't have those, but they used the same head mould, leaving the mounting holes visible.
They were added for increased visibility and airflow for the actors who'd been bumping into the sets and passing out through heatstroke
Perhaps a more chilling route to go with the CyberMasters' basic concept would be to reference one of 12's lines from World Enough And Time, where he says that cybermen are a phenomenon which repeatedly occur over and over across the universe.
Consider that by Series 9 the Time Lords had safely parked themselves at the end of time away from all other threats. What happens when the universe itself starts to fail and die, long after even the Toclafane have vanished? They could go back to the past, but that would more than likely start another Time War. They could leave for other parts as Division did, but, seeing as Division hasn't been associated with Gallifrey directly since the universe was young, they may lack the ability to. At the very end, Me's reality bubble began to collapse, and that would likely happen far sooner at a planetary scale.
what's the best option for them in this situation? To get an upgrade, to transform themselves into mechanical, infinitely regenerating horrors to survive. From there, some nutcase like Rassilon could go back in time to try to spread this "perfection" to everyone else before it's too late. The Time Lords spread a genetic virus to cause other species to evolve in their own image, so it's not out of character, and there could also be another dimension added to it, in that they're coming back from the end of everything as prophets with a warning, revealing that their modifications, though horrific, will prove to be the only way to stay alive in the end. As the last sparks of life in a cold, dead universe, their desire to convert others might stem from, or even be superseded by, a fundamental need to continue doing the one thing they've done since the very beginning.
Survive.
I love the power of the doctor cybermasters, the fact only the leaders have the robes is better but the normal ones look sick
You did miss one variant of the Cyberiad Cybermen [Nightmare is silver], A leader version does exist, and made a brief cameo in Death In Heaven, as the nod to Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart shows that The Brigadier had black handles, indicating he was converted into a Leader.
Would you count the cyberwoman from Torchwood as a cyber variant or is it separate to this list
If he doesn’t say either Mondasion or Tomb of the cybermen designs aren’t the best h then I’m never watching him again
😂😂
Love the video
Tomb of the Cybermen is my favourite cybermen story but I prefer The Invasion cybermen as a design
I like the 80s cyber men
In terms of the New Series Cybermen, it's a tie between the Cybus and Warrior designs. I would rank the Warrior ones above the Cybus ones as I love the modern design of the Invasion Cybermen, but the issue is that they lack the talking light mouth from the Cybus and even the 2013 designs. And before you say that there's other Cybermen that don't have a moving mouth, I know that But it's a feature I'm used to with these metal men, plus it's easier to know which one is talking. Even then, the Cybus ones are nostalgia to me as they were the ones that got me into the Cybermen in the first place.
I feel personally attacked by that nightmare in silver ranking at least you tried to not rank it so low
Have to agree with you about the Cyber Masters
Gr8 video , don't think I should have laughed as much as I did , at your comment of a cyberman needing a coat but I did.
If a new design of The Cybermen was going to be introduced for Russell T Davies' Second Era. I would like to see a C - 3PO esque - design
I completely agree about the Cyber Lords. I can't get past the silly headpieces.
Great video. I used to love the look of the Cybermen from Silver Nemesis but agree they've aged badly. I feel the Cyber Controller from Attack Of The Cybermen would have been better if they didn't resort to Michael Kilgariff reprising his role after 18 years where is it clear he wasn't a slender as he was in the 60's (nothing personal Mr. Kilgariff). Another actor could've easily passed it off but I also feel the Controller lacks the menace of the one from Tomb Of The Cybermen. I love the Earthshock Cybermen and David Banks performance certainly elevated things.
You will never see a Cyberman made of gold.
Happy New Year!
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100% either the cybus cyberman are the best or the invasion cybermen I have more appreciation for the invasion ones because of cyberman big finish story so good I also like the modasian cybermen/ tenth planet ones I think the series 10 2 parter made them seem sad and creepy
Why do people keep saying the Cybershades are converted cats & dogs? The Cybershades look more like converted gorillas than cats & dogs. (Would LOVE to see a cyber-puppy on the side of the good guys in a kid friendly cartoon spin-off though!)
ashad had different legs between haunting of vila and ascension of the cybermen
is there a story behind that?
Moonbase and tomb cyberman design are the best. 😌👍
The colony ship cyberman look cool but they realy needed some weathring , they just looked to clean and maybe a bit to uniform
Knock the spikes off the Cyber Warriors and they would jump up quite high for me too - certainly the best new who version
I genuinely can’t stand the Warrior look. The heads are OUTSTANDING, and then the entirety of everything below the neck is abysmal. They somehow managed to make the Nightmare in Silver costumes look far better by comparison. What’s up with the weird pointy pattern on the stomach? It looks so plain and incredibly cheap. It’s like they just decided to slap as much pointless detail onto the costume as possible. And don’t even get me started on the shoulder spikes.
I just listened to spare parts as my first big finish thing, and it was amazing. I still love the later cyber faction Cybermen as my favourite, but the mondans are still so creepy, and over motivated to survive
*Eeeexcellent!*
The Cybermen were defeated.
The victors of a billion battles broken.
An Empire of might and terror fallen.
Their weaknesses exploited.
Their armies outfought.
Their conquests surrendered.
Every empire has its time.
And every empire falls.
But that which is dead can live again...
..in the hands of a believer.
I really hate that glowing chest thing on the Nightmare ones. And not because "Oh, it looks like Iron-Man".
It just feels off. Like the chest area is where they should have like an artificial lung, and a heart respiration, and then you had this big like cylinder taking up space. Is it an energy source? If it is, why is it visible? That feels like a design flaw. And why is it glowing?
That would be so uncomfortable to wear, you have this thing on your chests that's glowing the whole time, and probably producing heat.
It also just makes them feel more like robots. Like that thing turns off when they die. But that makes no sense, the human inside is the power source, and the onboard computer and all of that stuff, but this thing indicating when they're alive, or dead or asleep kinda makes it seem like the armor is the cyberman, and not the human inside.
Have you not watched the iron man movie?
I Really like the new channel logo
I’m commenting early to say the cybermen are my favourite who villain so this ranking is the only one that could possibly offend me 😂
Because if tharries new logo this confused me and thought it was a new who channel 😂☠️
for me love the mondasian and moon base designs and the Whittaker era design in my mind is one of the better parts of the era as a whole.
Honestly I just can't get into the new cybermen from the Chibnall era. I absolutely hate the Cyber Masters both in terms of their design and backstory. The Cyber Warriors aren't terrible, but I do dislike the head design and the more ornate designs for the stomach area and shoulders. Where the handlebars connect should not be the same size of the actual head. I honestly think the Cybus Cybermen and the Nightmare in Silver designs are the best designs of the new era.
I know it’s not doctor Who but I’m a bit disappointed the Cyberlady from Torchwood wasn’t in the list
Yeah the wooden design, based on the nightmare in silver, it's just too complicated. It makes me think of the suitcase iron man armor, or mark 5. It's too detailed and not unique, especially for the wooden armor you'd think the design would be simpler, but no. Also from the point onwards that they had arm guns. Why not both arms? It's essentially a robot, you could pack the entire thing full of weaponry, why wouldn't you? Same problem with the Daleks. Helmet gun? That's cool. Why not have that too? The Cybus is perfection:)
I like the Rtd cybermen design
The Cybusmen are still my favourite
The gloves on the silver nemesis ones are just cricket gloves spray painted silver. It's VERY silly
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Silver Nemesis was '88, not' 87. 25th anniversary season - silver anniversary, hence silver nemesis.
Also, why put the Cybershades in there if not the Cyber-King. Hell, Handles has more of a prominent role in any story than the stealth Cybermen! At least Handles spoke!
The only thing I don't like about the Chibnall era cyber warriors is the spikes on the shoulders. Why would the Cybermen need spiky shoulders?
Other than the spikes the plain cyber-warriors of the Chibnall era are by far my favourite of NuWho
Where the Daley’s ranked
You don’t get the point tharries the cyber masters are timelords in cyberman body’s the fact they took so long to do this concept is crazy it’s such an evil and cool idea the only reason people hate on it is because it’s chibnall if it was rtd then everyone would like it
Not the biggest fan of chibnall's era but I will defend the cyber masters till the day I die
I'm sure I heard that Robert Holmes's original plot for The Five Doctors was the Cybermen trying to gain regeneration (before Terrance Dicks ended up writing the special).
But they look weird but your right
actually he does get it he just doesnt like it :) hope this helps
It's a terrifying concept, the Timelords minds being controlled by the Cybermen
1.5 looks like such an edgelord, he's something else hehe
No cyber-woman.... for shame
lol
Torchwood Cyberwoman thing take last place lol?
i really dont like the bulky "buscuit tin" heads the cyber warriors have its terrible for visiblity and you have no peripheral vision or depth perception, you could run circles round those guys and the heads are just one big target, easy to decapitate, it looks out of proportion to the body
Cool 😎
Mmmmh wonder is the cyber woman will be in this
Mondasian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everythingelse
1. Tomb of the cybermen design
2. tenth planet
3. Earthshock
Simple
The earthshock is by far the worst I’m sorry I don’t like them they act to human and the voices suck they are just not cyberman even the cyberleader sounds like a terrible voice actor
Earthshock is a good story but yeah, you don't need the cybermen for it, especially with their emotive lines.
In fact, I think the doctor even pointed out the emotions of the leader.
Doctor : "Fondness. I'm surprised you understand the meaning of that word."
Leader : "It is a word like any other"