As always, the first principles design philosophy really is key to Tesla vehicles. I like the idea of a vehicle which can take punishment and not be just some kind of eye candy. While at first the Cybertruck design seemed to be unnecessary, now I understand better that form truly follows the function of building this truck with the toughest steel around. While legacy companies seem to have durability as a goal, Tesla is not showboating at all. They are building trucks to withstand abuse, not just be a traditional type of truck. Tesla has no qualms about upending status quo, which is why they are beating the dinosaurs at their games.
Great job. When I first saw the Cybertruck, my initial thought was that there is no way I could ever drive something that looked like that. However, after watching several videos, including this one, on the design and structure, now I understand why it looks the way it does. The design and function are light years ahead of the competition. I'm so impressed/amazed at what they've done that I just submitted an order for one.
The principles of design are more like those from the 60's. Trucks didn't leave the heavy bodies behind because they were expensive, they left them behind because the bodywork absorbing energy in an impact is important for human safety. As a bonus a light body on a heavy frame is also a lot easier to repair than a unibody. Cybertruck is throwing safety and repairability away, but accidents aren't gonna stop next year, hell cars get hit parked at stoplights.
@@jasonhsellors trucks used to have tremendous structural integrity in the heavy sheet metal cabs. Taking out the strength made them safer. Strength ≠ safety.
This was really well done; packed with so much information. I haven't seen the reasoning and logic behind the Cybertruck design explained so well, and in so much detail. Tesla prove time and again that they're arguably the most innovative vehicle manufacturer in the world. You can see Musk's 'first principles' approach at work. This is how you'd design a pick up truck if you're truly starting from a clean sheet and asking yourself 'what is it that you actually need a pick up truck to do?"
The Cybertruck is not street legal in Europe ( if that matters ) as in Europe it would fail many of the increasingly stringent pedestrian and cyclist protection standards. So no, this design would not be a design chosen if you care about fellow people sharing the roads and you want to sell it in Europe and other countries that have the same regulations.
@@andersdannstedt5825 In North America what will happen is over 5 years the actual safety record of the design will influence insurance costs and if it's significantly worse than other designs then NTSB will bring in fines and/or spearhead laws which will influence industry changes. We err on the side of freedom over here, and our safety results aren't really worse. Largely because the auto makers in Europe have been faking their safety tests, along with their emissions tests, lol. The freedom to innovate has also allowed safety advancements here which weren't even allowed in Europe. ie airbags were originally invented and introduced in North America as a convenience option to replace seatbelts. Can you imagine EU allowing that? lol.
Contrary to popular belief, people do not ever share the highways with vehicles ever and in case your not aware, the CyberTruck is Pedestrian friendly other wise there would be absolutely no chance of it ever being allowed onto the highways in the USA or anywhere else for that matter.
large cast aluminum structures are a great way to make sure that even a minor accident totals your vehicle since cast aluminum cracks easily instead of deforming as sheet would and once cracked you would have to replace a very very expensive part
Unless it bolts together like a giant lego car so the whole section of structure can be fairly easily replaced (which I doubt is the case). Also the structural battery pack is very hard/expensive to replace. Building disposable throw away electric cars isn't very good for "the environment" but of course EV's never really were about helping the "environment." Just more BS marketing ploys, people bought Prius's thinking they were helping to save the world (creating Southpark Smug emissions) Having the battery pack serve double duty helps the manufacturer save money on building costs but actually hurts the consumer. It's not actually saving that much weight, especially considering how much heavier EV's are to begin with. I love how they present the idea of the integrated battery as somehow helpful to the buyer/consumer. It's also not that "innovative" forward thinking...building a gas tank into the fame of a motorcycle is more innovative. Since the in-frame gas tank won't wear out, causing you to have to replace the entire motorcycle frame when it goes bad.
Crumple zones reduce the probability of serious injury, or death - how much do you pay in the USA for hospital stays, or even simple health services, and what coverage do you have if you have to take time off work? Seems like a bit more expense in repairing them, or having them written off, is a compariive bargain. Same with a moderate increase in insurance premiums - you DO have insurance, don't you? You are aware of the widespread use of cast alloys in any modern vehicle, aren't you? The cast pieces are actually a much simpler and easier repair option - the real problem is the hard points, but those can also serve as anchore points in chassis machines, so that's 50-50. However, the biggest problem here is exactly that "sheet metal" as it's forming the exo-skeleton - basically an exposed monocoque - and these are particularly vulnerable to structural vulnerabilities as any damage is to the primary vehicle structure, rather than a 'sacrificial' structure that isn't critical to the structural strength. You may be familiar with the trick where one can (if one isn't too heavy) stand on a beer or soft drink can with it on end, without it being crushed - that's like the intact structure of the truck - but if one then taps the side of the can it alters the forces stressing it's shape end it immediately collapses - en exaggeration, but same principles for a damaged exoskeleton I would also remind you that "sheet metal" vehicles are rarely "repaired" to close to the original condition, whereas a replaced alloy part is in original condition.
@@michellesmith4133 I think I'm in love 😍you hit (almost) all the triggers 🥰 I got a bit put off by your testicles 😮 when you have a female nom-de-plume and avatar, though - but then we live in interesting times, don't we? Oh, yes, you're probably right, I have been complimented on the relative smoothness of mine when tea-bagged, but then you can't really trust those nubian slave girls after they reach menarch, can you?
We are already in the world of relatively minor accidents totally vehicles. Not because of major damage but because insurance companies are not willing to risk getting sued because they repaired a vehicle that then had another accident that could possibly be traced back to the original damage. This is why there is such a large "salvage" vehicle market that has sprung up. "Airbag deployed? Total it!" You're not wrong in your assessment, it's just a moot point these days.
Since this is the best truck ever, does it have a tailgate like every other truck ever? Or is there another accommodation for long boards or sheetrock?
I reserved a Cybertruck the night of the unveiling, coming in right at #22,000, so I'm hoping to get one of these by 2024. I don't really care about the looks, however I do care about not having to worry about rust, dents and dings. Nice video, thanks! Two weeks on I've noticed a trend in the comments...Engineers and fabricators love the concept of the CT, while fossil fuel fans can't stand the idea of an electric truck that's more bad-ass than their flimsy noisy stinky slow expensive to maintain rust buckets.
It looks awesome! During the day its an excellent truck for all those trucky type duties and in the evening it's a device for hunting evil aliens hell bent on destroying earth.
At first I didn't like the design, but it's actually grown on me. And now that I know about the practical design choices, it's even more appealing. I'm actually quite angry at the currant design choices of the automotive industry after watching this. I think one of my life ambitions now is to own a cyber-truck.
You never talk about battery life when towing a serious load. I tow an 8,600 lb Airstream. With my RAM 1500, I get up to 350 miles per tank of gas towing that sucker and up to 700 miles when I am not towing. The Cybertruck is an interesting engineering project, but unless it can tow up to 10k lbs for 300 miles on a single charge in the middle of the winter or summer, it is not a "real" truck for real truck users.
It can tow a much larger load. But it’s not meant to be a work truck, so I think it’s still a win when compared to a RAM 1500 which still isn’t the best work truck available.
@@derrickstevenson5009 by definition trucks were for work. The video here, talked about how Cybertruck would be the truck that would up the game in every aspect. Cyber truck does have great payload and towing capacity, but falls short of towing that 300 miles. Closer to 200 to 250 miles.
The real reason is the install solar panels on roof of cyber truck and the truck itself changes the location based on availability of sun rays at varying angles.
Hope it doesn't catch on fire and burn your house down while you're sleeping, or catch fire on the side of the road and require hours to put out the fire, or crash during "autopilot" and create a multi car pileup! Or not actually exist and work properly, like solar tiles or hyperloop
@@O1OO1O1 The LiFePO4 batteries that the Cybertruck will use don't catch on fire. If you don't know what that is, then you're definitely lost. Take your diesel Ram truck and shove it where the sun don't shine, kid.
@@trex2092 The Toasty Roasty GM Bolt. Even that is over done. Cars that burned in the first recall was about 10 but it may yet climb as GM has yet to swap out all the batteries. GO MARY B!
It also helps to have a mass production vehicle that uses the same type of steel as the SpaceX starship. Economy of scale means reduced material costs across the board. Very smart way to keep the mills running melts for both companies.
@@TravisAnderson79 Don't do the research....like "looking up" Airy's Failure...the science experiment that was to prove the earth moved through "outer" space and FAILED.....meaning the earth was PROVED to be STATIONARY. The reason that experiment is not taught at universities...it goes against the dogma of modern "science". I'm serious about you NOT researching the subject. Unless you have a very strong constitution, such a realization will cause a paradigm shift in your thoughts and it may just break you psychologically. Travis, I'm in my mid-sixties. When younger, I tested only 2 points below genius. (never could make those last 2 points! Dang!) Why does water ALWAYS find it's level? That is, no curve. Lakes show no curvature, none. Long distance photography proves no curve. Radar shows no curve. Lasers go far past the distance they should be able to target because the curve should interfere, yet it doesn't....because it doesn't exist. No surveyor in the world accounts for "curvature" ... none. Ships can paint targets well past the range science says they should. And I'm just getting started. Mark Twain said it's harder to convince a man he has been fooled than to fool him in the first place. (how true!) That is because of ego involved. No one wants to admit he has been duped his entire life on such a simple thing. The atomic bomb tests of the sixties were not testing what you think. There is a firmament over the earth (a dome, if you will) and the nations were trying to poke a hole or crack in it. Even if they failed at that they were able to map its' shape. (I'm really talky tonight...lol) But please, stick with the gubermint lies unless you have the stomach to bear the truth being different than you've believed all your life.
@@reserva120 Oh that's a brilliant argument. Think of that all on your own? Ad hominem is the last resort of the empty mind. If you don't know what that means (as I suspect) look it up
I have been driving cars early in life & have driven lots of different cars even before being legal age to get a license, on first sight i liked this product & is quiet practical considering lots of different things i learned after rigorous testing of lots of different cars . Considering geometry, ride height, vehicle dimensions, light positioning, everything seems on point based on the video from what i want from an ideal car . would obviously miss that roaring engine feel though. It has a forward leaning stance which is there in some fighter jets & motorbikes too & seems practical & appealing . Best invention ever.
I was also thinking about that. Only one shown so far, but excluded from the video, are the collapsing windows 😉 Jokes asides it would be interesting to know about its safety features.
@@reicherk If it’s too rigid it will not absorb the force and harm not only people in the Tesla, but also the other part. But I trust Elon to make it safe 👍🏻
This is a wonderful addition to the auto market. The engineering and the "outside the box" thinking that has been developing this revolutionary beast of a auto, and now made this beast a reality I applaud.. 👌👌 Go Tesla... 👍🥰
It also doesn't hurt that such a design for an indestructible truck guaranteed to last a million miles would be invaluable on a Mars base in the future. Many of Elon's projects have enough wiggle room to be quite useful on Mars, like the Boring Company and the Tesla Robots.
What was failed to be mentioned and explained is that yes, the CT will have an exoskeleton but, it still has to have a front and rear casting frame, which is what the 9000 ton press is for, which is the major delay in production for the CT. It is still going to have a frame, just not one that is designed to be the main structure. Their will be a front casting, and a rear casting and a battery pack, joined together makes the frame. Then the exoskeleton will be bolted to that. But the CT won't rely on the frame for it's rigidity but the outer shell will be it's structure.
@@500846 No, the video didn't explain that there IS going to be a subframe under the exoskeleton for Cybertruck. You can see it in different renderings that Tesla has put out since the launch date. Most big fans of Cybertruck (I have 2 preorder reservations and am a $TSLA shareholder) have seen that it will have an aluminum subframe made from one or several large castings. That's what the giga press is for, to cast aluminum, not to press out the stainless steel body.
A big question with the stronger/stiff shell, is passenger safety! The old cars with hard body would show signs of little damage in a collision but the passenger often still got killed due to the harsh shock of impact. The newer softer body vehicles are designed to crush and absorb that impact. Will the cyber truck be able to protect the soft squishy passengers inside? Other than this very important thought, I LOVE THE IDEA AND DESIGN of the cybertruck and if affordable, I would certainly buy one if it has enough range (including winter) to tow a 21ft camper. :)
It is as affordable as similar products from GM and Ford, wait a year for video's of winter performance and see what others discover, then you have your answer.
As a fabricator and mechanic, I will never see the Cyber truck the same. This video helped me go from "eh, not for me" to "I hope to own one some day". If there one thing I hate its rotten frames, corrosion, rust, holes. The truck will outlast the battery life though. So it would be cool to make the battery somewhat easily replaceable. That stainless body with all of the aluminum underneath will last a long time (for those of us not near salt water). It's ugly as hell but it has major soul!
The structural 4680 battery in the standard range model Y was fairly easy to remove but it didn't follow it so closely on Munro Live. I think it was bolted to the other parts all along making it structural - it wasn't impossible to get out without tearing everything up. Modern li-ion batteries lose like 10% range but stabilizes. If you have that wiggly room in your need it can be a long time before replacing. The number of charge cycles and the range gives that 500 000 miles ought to be no major problem then the majority of them. I have a robotic lawn mower that also uses li-ion (10x 18650 cells) battery. It's now at 2784 charge cycles after 6 summers (it basically charges 6 times a day when doing 24/7 so it rakes them up quicker than a car). That's the equivalent of well over 500k miles on a Tesla model 3 long range. So we have prior precedence (that's better than how a phone battery is abused) to predict how they will hold up. I don't have any battery electric car but watching the lawn mower work so well, without active thermal management of the battery and any kick ass battery management system as a Tesla makes me just shake the head when the naysayers say the battery will need replacing soon.
I do a bit of machining. My machines are mostly antique that come to me junked. Have a 40" air over hydraulic press brake so I kind of enjoy bending sheet metal. People have no idea how impressive a 1/8" SS body will be. This could be the truck that gets handed down generation to generation . Just freshen the suspension and battery as required. In 10 or 20 years there will be after market electronics alongside rebuilt ones. Parts for this truck are going to be all over the aftermarket. We are about to witness a car cult larger than that of the VW Bug and Van. Unlike the VWs we will not waste out lives patching rusty sheet metal.
Brilliant content, slick presentation. Never liked the design of the cyber truck, but now having been informed I can appreciate the achievement. It’s smart!
Form at times follows function. Tesla is after a function and as is pointed out, the general form is set by that. The other thing that most people miss is the massive advance that the 4680 batteries with their tab less design brings. There are some good videos that explain that advance. Again that is design following function. The purpose of the batteries is to deliver massive amounts of current and the tab less design is great for that.
Are you dumb or smocking something!? The best truck ever made is chassis on frame! It allows basically everything from chassis extension to payload upgrade! Significantly better customizations and equipments like cranes, and many other things like RV conversions, ambulance, rescue vehicle……
Very researched and enjoyable video. There's just a few problems with it. 1. What we have now are a bunch of 3d renderings and a prototype vehicle that hasn't been real-world tested. Many many questions remain. Tesla are only releasing positive information out. Unless it's the "bulletproof glass" fiasco. By the way you probably wouldn't want a bulletproof glass on your truck unless you intend to drive it in a war zone. 2. Stainless steel vehicles have been tried before and didn't catch on for a reason. There are issues with temperature regulation and more. 3. The "weight of the paint" is minuscule compared to advantages of paint protection 4. Most likely the design cannot be approved by governments because there are many regulations that prevent sharp angles in vehicles in order to protect pedestrians. 5. Repairs and replacements would probably be a major problem for such a vehicle. In short the cybertruck is much closer to being vaporware than being actually a viable thing.
Americans stop the car and drive back, crushing any survivors of street accidents. That saves insurance payouts which come to millions if the body can still move..... Good points you make. Yanks just live in illusion-land in wooden huts that get blown away in a strong wind, but need three cars littering up the "yard" to go to the 'mall', to buy more crap for the mouths watching screens at home. They have zero concept of 'long term'. 2023 01 14 10:52
Excellent video. We are all used to the look of trucks... they all look essentially the same. A lifetime of aesthetic acceptance is tested when a completely new and different design comes along. When you look at all the reasons why the Tesla design is as good, and probably much better, than conventional truck design... at a minimum, Musk should be given huge credit for thinking outside the box... over, and over, and over again. He is truly changing the world to a degree no one before him has done.
No. Musk get no "credit". He's a repugnant and vile political anarchist that deserves to have all his companies implode in on themselves for his anti-American, pro-authoritarian and pro-White Nationalist dangerous rhetoric he constantly spews on social media. I'm enjoying the slow burn meltdown of his financial empire. Good riddance to this jackzaz.
@@billderinbaja3883 And don't we all wish the German people in the 1930's and 40's were just a big more 'judgemental' about the dark forces conspiring to replace their democracy with an authoritarian dictatorship? It starts with people like Musk, cheer leading for the demise of the of the very system that provided for his success, all in the name of racism and profit.
The major selling point of pick up trucks is the tailgate that allows heavy items to be put in the back. Also, construction items need to be moved that are eight feet long. So the box area should accommodate this feature. Other than that it looks like a great truck. Not sure about driver visibility though. Would have to drive one to know.
Probably 90% of 1/2 ton trucks are not used for work anymore. They're just personal vehicles that occasionally carry something. Cyber Truck bed is a lot bigger than most people think. I still think it's ugly and I don't want to buy one...but it's growing on me. lol
Also these clips r very in depth and laid out very well with good info on manufacturing processes 2 thumbs up 2 the commentary and this channel thank u
@@TheRealBalloonHead My silence is deafening. I didn't phrase my statement correctly. They are enjoying giving me crap about the two year delay. "So, Warzat' bigol' ceebertruk you used to talk bout'"
One point you missed was the design of the trianglular rear structures. Normal pickup trucks have a separate attached rectangular bed. Ever seen trucks from collisions with the bed broken off? The CT has an integrated rear section as part of the whole pressing so the whole body is structurally strong. (Note that the Honda also has a triangular unibody rear design. Better but not integral.) Some have noticed that you can't reach down into the bed of the CT but because you can electrically lower the rear suspension, you can now reach into the bed even easier than the F150!
@@MrHighAnxiety63 Not the reason its separate on normal pickups. I believe its because of the flexing in the frame. If the body was hole it would bend going on rough roads.
Actually I've never seen a bed come off the frame in an accident. Also, an F150 has one of the most inaccessible beds among brands due to side panel height. That said, I'm impressed with Elon's truck.
Thanks for the explanation. I must admit, I was one of the people complaining about the ugly look, but now that I understand about the reason and the engineering I appreciate what Telsa has done. I might even buy one now!
There are some aspects of the design that you did not consider. The use case/scenarios for what a work truck needs. I’m not saying that this truck won’t pass muster at all, but from a construction working POV, I can see some potential negatives. For instance the fact that the rear bed-sides aren’t level, but at an angle making it useless for situations where a level surface for carrying or working may be desired (like snowmobile decks, camper shells, work racks, etc). I’m not going to hack into it in a comment, but those use cases are extremely important for the “tough truck” crowd. The Silicon Valley ski nomads are probably fine since they could just buy another truck.
@@Alturvexs Plus people add all kinds of things to truck beds to adapt them to their needs. I wonder how well the bed sides on those aluminum trucks hold up to non silicone valley use? The video said GM is working on some kind of composite solution for the bed floor, which means the aluminum bed is maybe only holding up to an occasional IKEA haul? Now I'm curious if people still throw a scoop of gravel or a pallet of cinder blocks in those aluminum trucks?
@@insurrectionistorange Well I sure know the difference from the old truck that was made from steal from back in the 80's and earlier model was far stronger than today's aluminum trucks, We have a few of them still. This is why I am so exited about the cyber truck and it's versatility
@@Alturvexs I've had a few steel bed trucks over the years and never had a second thought about dragging engine blocks, transmissions and suspension parts with sharp edges across it, or using shovels to transfer gravel, sand and amendments from the bed. I wonder how composite or aluminum holds up under these uses?
This is a vehicle that has been thoroughly researched, planned, designed, and built with true purpose. Every aspect of the Tesla Cybertruck has a reason for being a part of the build, and is powerful on so many levels. Highly impressive. Traditional truck builders, take notes and learn something! We, as comsumers, want more than just a flash in the pan pretty-pretty to drive.
We use our truck to collect the wood we heat with, from up on a mountain, and for camping and the like. We drive on lots of rocky, difficult mountain roads. The cybertruck looks great to me, I mean practical. Like it will haul a trailer for wood or rock, and will carry camping gear.
thank you for clarifying the need for this truck to look the way it does. I thought it was a terrible shell until you pointed out how the panels cannot be curved or bent to accomodate styling. I don't like pick up trucks because so many people buy them for the wrong reasons. The cybertruck looks like it can be shipped to Ukraine for warfare. Actually, every high ranking official in every country will want one for security. Lol. I love my model 3 and perhaps the cybertruck won't be too big to go down narrow streets so I guess it's still better than ICE or diesel pickups.
Very well done! But if the Body varies from 0.2-4mm in thickness, its kinda misleading to claim the body is made out of 1/8 inch steel, as most of it might be much much thinner.
ONE THING I have yet to see the cybercar/truck do is complete a DOT crash test ~ THE RESULTS is what they've been hiding - those sharp edges would rip into any other vehicle and kill the occupants and a bent-box frame like that would NOT absorb an impact, making the kinetic energy for the passengers far more deadly.
I love the science behind the design but one thing that worries me. What will the repair ability of the large castings be? If one of the large casting sections were to crack in a collision would the entire vehicle be totaled?
Go watch Sandy munro’s videos on the 2022 Texas built Model Y. There are sacrificial parts that protect the casting in low speed collisions, just like any other vehicle. In more intense collision some parts of the casting could be broken but easily welded. If the subframe is damage such that it needs replaced the accident will destroy the vehicle in any case and you will probably be injured or worse as the vehicle sacrifices itself to save you.
After an accident this type of construction would no longer be legal to drive in countries where they test vehicles every two years for safety. In usa no one cares about safety, so no big deal. 2023 01 14 10:19
Thanks for such a comprehensive explanation of what makes the cybertruck so revolutionary. I would have liked to have had you cover the lifespan of the battery pack and what might be involved in replacing it at the end of it's life cycle. It seems obvious that with the truck's strength and resistance to corrosion that a very long lifespan of the body is to be expected.
Bullshit!!! Which revolutionary!? It’s a crap truck not made for flexibility or actual usability like a normal truck, basically allows no modifications it’s just utter crap!
Thirteen and one-half minutes ago the Cybertruck was a "stupid ugly truck". After this video, I look at it through new eyes or at least refocused eyes. Well done assembling the information and presenting it in a manner I could digest. When they make one that I can drive 600 miles in January, I'll be looking at them a lot more seriously.
600 miles in January with a few hundred pounds of cargo in back with the bed open and it might start to viable for construction work. I'll be keeping an eye on it.
The original Land Rover Series/Defenders had a body on frame setup but had an aluminium body, which worked perfectly as a work vehicle during its 71 year production. Thick, durable burmabrite aluminium.
Land Rover is today almost fully aluminum built. But not structural or massive castings that can fail. Nothing will ever beat a steel chassis! There is a reason why trucks and semis have them.
I think it looks awesome. The fact that it’s practical only amazes me. It’s aptly named, looks ultra modern, cyber and unreal. Like out of a game or movie. I would love one. 😁
some corrections here- traditional trucks use the dual beam layout because they need strength concentrated all around the powertrain since trucks are expected to tow things. A monocoque design is going to be worse for towing, all things being equal (and electric trucks are not really made for towing). The dual beam layout also helps keep the CoG low, something that battery-drive vehicles can accomplish with a low slung battery pack. Another reason for the beam design is to allow isolation of the cab from the truck bed- a requirement for actual work trucks to provide modularity, comfort, and performance. Finally, a monocoque design does poorly with the low height of the truck bed sides. This is why the Chevy avalance has those diagonal bars on either side of the bed, and why the 1st gen Honda Ridgeline had that Cybertruck-esque shape. Its hard to get the rear end stiff enough to allow for rear suspension without a C pillar in the monocoque frame, which is why the Cybertruck also has that sloping bed side shape.
@@nav579 Undoubtedly. The Cybertruck is not (and no electric truck is) is made for towing. Thats not their purpose. They are mostly made to push the envelope of technology, development, and to be a loss leader for their respective brands.
Got mine reserved but wonder when they will start shipping. The number of orders is huge but it was done when the price was unrealistic and required no deposit. When they start asking people to place a deposit for a truck that will likely be over $100K those reservations will have a reality check. I’m super excited about owning one and not that worried about it taking too long because of that. I own two Plaids, an S and an X and I can’t be happier with those cars.
You must be wealthy! Good for you! I will get there one day. Cybertruck will be mine even though atm I couldn't afford it but by the time mine will be ready for shipment and paperwork etc. I should have the capital to purchase this fine beast of a machine!
There was a minimal deposit of $100. The prices will likely go up some due to inflation but the whole manufacturing process is designed to save a lot of money over a traditional truck.
Back in 1970, a program appeared on British TV called UFO. The creators Gerry & Sylvia Anderson already designed these trucks- I suspect Elon Musk was a fan of C21 Productions! I was, and was 12 watching UFO! Elon's dad must have been one too!
They did the moon landing film too. Thunderbirds was the name I remember from the 1960s. Puppets where you could see the strings sometimes. There's even a bank with that name I saw in USA once with that name 😂 Now who would put his money in a bank with that name? Or even crazier: "wells Fargo Bank"😂🤣😅
One thing I wonder about is the aluminum on the bottom. Is that strong enough to protect that battery if you hit a big rock? I'm just a dummy so I don't know. I wish the bottom was the same stainless though
I thought the same thing when I saw that in the video.... other than the passengers, it's the most crucial thing to protect, and in arguably the most impact prone and all around dangerous areas of a truck...
You are a dummy, but ask the most important question (after spent batteries). One rock hidden by tall grass will destroy the whole show, but its protected by a flimsy sheet of aluminium. "Gee mom, is that enough?" "Sure sonny, it's rust proof" 2023 01 14 09:47
@@carholic-sz3qv SpaceX has developed stainless steel manufacturing techniques progressing from the crude flying water tower-looking demonstration rocket 2 years into the fine quality complex components of the current Starship about to launch, the same used in Cybertruck. Pots and pans are made of the same stuff and can look pretty spiffy. TESLA and SpaceX engineers are free to work at either facility especially to cooperate on new methods and designs. Soon we will see. Thanks for the reply.
Everything I design is from first principles - I fell in absolute love with the Cybertruck when I first saw it, because I saw what it truly was, and imagined all sorts of awesome things to do with it. I preordered one pretty quickly, I can’t wait. Although I guess I have to 😂
if I got hold of one of these, I'd take out the centre console and the back seats, and if possible cut through to the back and build a little house inside it and then live happily ever after. Love that it can go in water like a boat, better yet would be submarine capabilities so I could head from the uk to France and little trips like that. For crossing the Atlantic I guess getting on a bigger boat might be a bit more relaxing.
This will be a great innovation for owners who live in northern climates, like Buffalo, NY, where cities use salt on the roads in winter. I grew up in such a city, and all cars, even ones with a coated undercarriage, got rusted out after a few years.
@@_cloudface_ yep, and that is where the batteries will be.... honestly the stainless will still corrode as well i don' tunderstand where people get resistant versus cannot rust .... stainless can rust.... in my experience 316 graded stainless you could still bend and form while getting better resistance (to the point it is the grade used in nuclear facilities) but its more costly to use.... i know of 400, 600 grade series existing but not sure or what gauge you can get it in.... would require some research if it would be viable
@@wnxdafriz From what I understand: 1) the stainless is quite thick, relatively, so it will oxidize more slowly than car metal. But if the salt does get to it the problem of repairing the bad area isn't so easily solved. 2) there is a thin aluminum sheet covering the bottom which could be replaced if corroded.
@@_cloudface_ However aluminum oxide (i.e. aluminum rust) acts as a protective layer against further corrosion. What you will get is a white powder look but, except under extreme conditions, that's about as far as it goes.
Sounds wonderful. I didn't hear any mention of safety of passengers, or cost of repairing if in accident. All of these one piece sections of truck or car must be huge cost to replace. Have they done any crash testing yet?
I'm pretty sure I heard Tesla will have smaller replacement pieces for repairs, no need to replace the whole piece. Much like how collision centers use a patch panel rather than replace an entire quarter panel.
"ordinary" cars are designed to collapse to absorb the forces in a crash while the passenger compartment is rigid to protect from parts entering (engine, etc.). If the whole body is rigid, the forces on the passengers will be much larger. All cars and trucks? need to be tested and get rated, in Europe with Euro NCAP. I will wait and see how the Cybertruck fares before speculating more. The Cybertruck is not street legal in Europe as it will not comply to the safety regulations such as the pedestrian and cyclist protection standards. It will be sold in the USA as many vehicles there are exempt from pedestrian protection protocols, but to be sold in Europe, changes to the body shape and materials are needed which will make the Cybertruck a completely different animal.
No one can get past the government boys without being tested or money under the table similar to the BLINDING headlights? Yup everything he makes is only for the RICH except the sell out to China.
@@andersdannstedt5825 Don't destroy the yanky dream man! Let them rave on and then have to face the consequences. Serious scientists will arrive to do the clean-up after all the dollars have been pocketed.
@@catsaregovernmentspies When designing parts a decision if the part is also to be a spare part is made. These spare parts have to be stored so they can be ordered and used when repairing. These parts also needs to be kept long after the model it was designed for has been replaced. This can be a considerable cost. The company I worked for, Scania (trucks) had to keep spare parts for 25 years in case of trucks for Nato countries. Customers usually get a little angry if their car/truck/ ... cannot be repaired 10 years after purchase. This means that special tools for repairing also need to be "spare parts". This is why one want as many parts to be "carry over" till the next generation/model, or at least the new parts can replace the old part. This is a design decision to reduce cost, otherwise the number of spare parts will grow over time which leads to high cost of keeping spare parts as they have been manufactured at a cost that that will not be refunded until the spare part is ordered and paid for.
Can't wait to get mine. This will be the best ranch pickup ever made. As an engineer, I appreciate that Tesla focuses on product performance and quality rather than shareholders, who are only interested in short term returns. As weird looking as the cybertruck is, it is that way for a purpose. The Rivian on the other hand is just ugly for no purpose.
@@bobbybishop5662 Why do you feel that way? What prevents this truck from being ideal for a farm and ranch application? From my perspective it would be much better in many ways than any of the ranch trucks we have ever had.
Some people can’t get past what’s traditional. If it was good enough for gramps. It’s futuristic looking and it’s electric. One thing that would for sure hurt it as a ranch truck is the towing issue. So far electric trucks just can’t tow far enough.
To start with the average ranch truck would be a 3/4 or 1 ton truck with a 5th wheel capacity from 20000 to 32000 lbs capable of towing a stock trailer full of cattle of horses. The bed length is only around 6ft rather than a standard 8ft bed. Ranch truck are many times carrying a portable diesel welder and and or a diesel transfer tank holding up to 100 gal of diesel fuel for refueling in the field. The unibody construction isn't ideal for tough terrian especially when heavily loaded under towing situations. Ranch trucks typically get the crap best out them. I don't see it as much more than a city truck with different styling than what has be the norm for pickups. Personally I think it's about ugly as it could be.
What about crush zones so that the passengers don't experience the full shock of a collision? And how are they dealing with the corrosion problems when 2 different types of metal come into contact.
If you glue it together the different metals aren't really touching. The aluminum castings should act as the crumple zones. There's no engine to deal with unlike conventional vehicles.
This isn't a push back but to strengthen your arguments. 1. Entire steel body of cars are galvanised to prevent rusting. It goes into a large pool of hot dip deep enough that car attached to rails goes through a full somersault to ensure all its nooks and crannies are fully covered and treated. This technique pioneered by Audi in 1980's, works so effectively that now virtually all steel cars receive this expensive treatment. All cars in the past suffered significant rusting and required regular welding and body panel work. Now, Cybertruck probably eliminates this process altogether. 2. Painting including various treatments is another very expensive process, up to 16 layers could be applied including multiple layers of primer, undercoat, paint and wax. It may need baking in low temp oven in between, it takes time, labour, energy and space. Yes, it adds a lot of weight, it's prone to damage during manufacturing that then needs manual repairs and reprocessing. Yes, it's an expensive and elaborate process eliminated from Cybertruck, thanks to stainless steel
Excellent video, this is so well explained and simplified! Literally anybody can understand the reasons behind the making, and really the cyber truck is a game changer🤩🤩🤩🤩
I did notice one thing and its the same with a lot of vehicles now. The sloped windshield creates a long "A" pillar on each side. This causes a blind spot for the driver when pedestrians use a cross walk. And I believe this is why a lot of pedestrians get hit by vehicles. I'm sure the design structures will take off, but I can tell you one thing, you cannot beat the wrap around windshields of the older vehicles which gave the driver better frontal vision. Maybe your design engineers can come up with a better windshield design to try and move those "A" pillars or eliminate them some how from blocking corner vision. Structurally the design I believe is strong but maybe later a little dressing design on the front would look good. As of right now the vehicle looks very plain. Good video.
Yep, possibly the least pedestrian friendly design of the last fifty years. Those A pillars will make for great tunnel vision. Bags of glare off the sloping windscreen, and dashboard reflections. Wonder how it fares in crash testing. Best of luck repairing panels if they _do_ get damaged. But I'm sure we'll find out how they perform in the real world very soon.
The shape is also much more aerodynamic than a traditional boxy truck. This will help solo range a great deal. Since most trucks are actually not towing most of the time, this saves a lot of charging cost and time. Also, it helps performance.
True. Aerodynamics is a massive part of the design since "fuel" economy is still the number one concern of the electric vehicle. Unfortunately, this truck isn't ready for the construction industry yet as it has a small bed and it would lose all that aerodynamic shape if you have the back open carrying stuff all the time (as opposed to private ownership that is hardly used for it's utility ability.
@@smgdfcmfah It’s shape will still be favourable compared to a boxy truck even with the tail open, just not optimal. And the bed size is larger than US best sold truck as far as I know, so…for a lot of businesses it probably will suffice
@@ytyaroon That bed is 6'5" - a work truck tends to have an 8' bed. Having the back open and cargo in it will completely destroy the aerodynamics - it's just the way it works. It may have slightly les drag than a standard pick-up, it it will be negligible, which is the point. I'm not against this truck, but as long as charging and range is the limiting factor, then towing and aerodynamics are key to these vehicles (things the gas burners don't really need to worry about).
i can’t judge about work trucks, my argument is most sold truck, the F150, does not have a larger bed than de CT. To your other point: Of course, cargo in the back that is stacked high, maybe even higher than the cabin, will cause drag. As it will in conventional truck. However, this will not alter the front aero and that does matter. Just look at semi: front aero, back all boxy but still twice as aerodynamically efficient as a conventional semi. The gains of the better front end aero of CT will always help.
@@quansun7633 are you just dumb or what!? What in the system is drive by wire!? Because ICE also have same type of steering and many other systems like braking…… explain yourself! Lol…..
@@quansun7633 manufacturers are still developing and making steer by wire more effective just like brake by wire….. those things are not been used in mass now! Except I think Nissan or Toyota.
Aluminum works fine for off-roading too. Just has to be thicker than steel would, but is still lighter for thicker aluminum that provides the same strength.
I am sure the after market will step up with all sorts of off road accessories. Snow plow and winch mounts for the front end, Stainless, Aluminum or even titanium skid plates. Cow catchers, gun racks, roof racks, campers, over the bed snowmobile racks etc.
The design is obviously made function over form, but there were definitely a lot of ways to make the cyber truck look less "cyber", while still keeping low cost, manufacturability and simplicity. The cyber truck look is definitely a conscious choice.
I take my own experience as a mechanical engineer over a Tesla enthusiast UA-cam channel who combines information as best as they can to form a video. No offense to the channel, the video was great but not always correct from a technical perspective.
So are we still going to pretend years later that the dude with the sledge hammer was actually trying to hit the cyber truck hard? literally hit it with 10% power.
@@NeonGore I said the same swing. His swing didn't leave a dent. So that doesn't even make sense. Most cars have very thin metal. You don't need a sledge hammer. You can dent them with your fist. Even a light tap with that hammer is a good demo compared to any other truck. If it's bias... it's a bias toward believing in physics.
@@Plisko1 I still don't think you understand. The point was comparing dents but if you're swinging 1/3 as hard on the cyber truck as you did on the normal door then it completely makes the test irrelevant. This is plain common sense.
@@NeonGore I understand your point but I never saw a stronger swing on a normal door.. Did you? It's a valid point if they did... but I must have missed it. My point was even that swing probably would have left a dent in a normal door... but it is my own estimate.
That's all fine in theory, but let's see how it goes after sales and what customers have to say after some time in use. By the way when is it going to market for real ?
I have my doubts. Saying it's going to be the best and longest lasting truck is based on nothing but hopes and dream. I like CT but let's be real here, Teslas aren't close to be the best built vehicles out there, and Elon now has a great track record of over promising capabilities.
It seems the battery pack will be under extreme stress in certain situations with this design. Having personally designed an EV, I am a bit wary of what seems to be the "Achilles Heel " of the Cybertruck.
One dent in a quarter panel and the whole vehicle is structurally compromised. There is a reason body on frame works so well. So your $70,000 vehicle isn't insurance totaled after a fender bender
@@CaptainRon1913 That's pretty much the norm these days, anyway. Between crumple zones, engines dropping out and insanely expensive airbags popping off, everything seems to be write off. No wonder the insurance rates have gotten so insane. As for a dent in the quarter panel destroying the structural integrity - says who? The beauty of this material is that dents can be popped out without any problem.
Let's drop the term 'pickup truck.' It's called a Cybertruck exactly because it shares nothing in common with the legacy 'work' truck save tires. Rather than think 'outside the box,' like F and GM's silly tailgate battle, Tesla engineers rethought X and created a new box - a triangle.
Or because it’s c rap truck totally impractical compared to normal truck! What about modifications….. it’s totally useless! With 1000hp it can barely (tow 14,000lbs) while a 450hp ford truck tows up to 35,000lbs to remote places even.
I totally like the design. After watching the video, I like it even more. It’s almost like building a stealth fighter jet. I like to see more videos with the add on accessories for outdoor camping and off-roading capabilities.
Great video, thank you! I think what drove Elon to build this Cybertruck comes from his experience living in dangerous countries. South Africa, South or Central America.. places where thugs are brazen enough to attack drivers of expensive cars with weapons in broad day light. It forces thousands of wealthy drivers to spend fortunes on bullet proof windows and panels and tires… The Cybertruck is an instant solution at a fraction of the cost and I’m sure this vehicle will be most popular in the developing world and least popular in modern nations like Europe. The Cybertruck is never going to be a mass market product but could probably globally sell as well as the S or X with high profit margin.
As always, the first principles design philosophy really is key to Tesla vehicles. I like the idea of a vehicle which can take punishment and not be just some kind of eye candy. While at first the Cybertruck design seemed to be unnecessary, now I understand better that form truly follows the function of building this truck with the toughest steel around. While legacy companies seem to have durability as a goal, Tesla is not showboating at all. They are building trucks to withstand abuse, not just be a traditional type of truck. Tesla has no qualms about upending status quo, which is why they are beating the dinosaurs at their games.
Tesla have the most faulths of all the big car brands with small stuff, elecrical errors beeing one of the biggest.
@@mikevik100I’ve done a research paper on EV’s and don’t think this is true. Care to explain specifically what you are referring to?
@@mikevik100 yeah. Didn’t think so. Quit talking out of your ass.
Great job. When I first saw the Cybertruck, my initial thought was that there is no way I could ever drive something that looked like that. However, after watching several videos, including this one, on the design and structure, now I understand why it looks the way it does. The design and function are light years ahead of the competition. I'm so impressed/amazed at what they've done that I just submitted an order for one.
The principles of design are more like those from the 60's. Trucks didn't leave the heavy bodies behind because they were expensive, they left them behind because the bodywork absorbing energy in an impact is important for human safety. As a bonus a light body on a heavy frame is also a lot easier to repair than a unibody. Cybertruck is throwing safety and repairability away, but accidents aren't gonna stop next year, hell cars get hit parked at stoplights.
@@jasonhsellors trucks used to have tremendous structural integrity in the heavy sheet metal cabs. Taking out the strength made them safer. Strength ≠ safety.
This was really well done; packed with so much information. I haven't seen the reasoning and logic behind the Cybertruck design explained so well, and in so much detail. Tesla prove time and again that they're arguably the most innovative vehicle manufacturer in the world. You can see Musk's 'first principles' approach at work. This is how you'd design a pick up truck if you're truly starting from a clean sheet and asking yourself 'what is it that you actually need a pick up truck to do?"
The Cybertruck is not street legal in Europe ( if that matters ) as in Europe it would fail many of the increasingly stringent pedestrian and cyclist protection standards. So no, this design would not be a design chosen if you care about fellow people sharing the roads and you want to sell it in Europe and other countries that have the same regulations.
@@andersdannstedt5825 In North America what will happen is over 5 years the actual safety record of the design will influence insurance costs and if it's significantly worse than other designs then NTSB will bring in fines and/or spearhead laws which will influence industry changes. We err on the side of freedom over here, and our safety results aren't really worse. Largely because the auto makers in Europe have been faking their safety tests, along with their emissions tests, lol. The freedom to innovate has also allowed safety advancements here which weren't even allowed in Europe. ie airbags were originally invented and introduced in North America as a convenience option to replace seatbelts. Can you imagine EU allowing that? lol.
Contrary to popular belief, people do not ever share the highways with vehicles ever and in case your not aware, the CyberTruck is Pedestrian friendly other wise there would be absolutely no chance of it ever being allowed onto the highways in the USA or anywhere else for that matter.
@@andersdannstedt5825 Yeah, so, maybe they're not going to sell it in Europe. So, it doesn't meet all regulatory requirements everywhere. So what.
@@andersdannstedt5825 I'm sure the customer base they're targeting is allocated more to north america, Oceania/Australia and Asia.
large cast aluminum structures are a great way to make sure that even a minor accident totals your vehicle since cast aluminum cracks easily instead of deforming as sheet would and once cracked you would have to replace a very very expensive part
Unless it bolts together like a giant lego car so the whole section of structure can be fairly easily replaced (which I doubt is the case). Also the structural battery pack is very hard/expensive to replace. Building disposable throw away electric cars isn't very good for "the environment" but of course EV's never really were about helping the "environment." Just more BS marketing ploys, people bought Prius's thinking they were helping to save the world (creating Southpark Smug emissions)
Having the battery pack serve double duty helps the manufacturer save money on building costs but actually hurts the consumer. It's not actually saving that much weight, especially considering how much heavier EV's are to begin with. I love how they present the idea of the integrated battery as somehow helpful to the buyer/consumer. It's also not that "innovative" forward thinking...building a gas tank into the fame of a motorcycle is more innovative. Since the in-frame gas tank won't wear out, causing you to have to replace the entire motorcycle frame when it goes bad.
Good thing this is cold-rolled steel!
Crumple zones reduce the probability of serious injury, or death - how much do you pay in the USA for hospital stays, or even simple health services, and what coverage do you have if you have to take time off work? Seems like a bit more expense in repairing them, or having them written off, is a compariive bargain. Same with a moderate increase in insurance premiums - you DO have insurance, don't you?
You are aware of the widespread use of cast alloys in any modern vehicle, aren't you?
The cast pieces are actually a much simpler and easier repair option - the real problem is the hard points, but those can also serve as anchore points in chassis machines, so that's 50-50.
However, the biggest problem here is exactly that "sheet metal" as it's forming the exo-skeleton - basically an exposed monocoque - and these are particularly vulnerable to structural vulnerabilities as any damage is to the primary vehicle structure, rather than a 'sacrificial' structure that isn't critical to the structural strength.
You may be familiar with the trick where one can (if one isn't too heavy) stand on a beer or soft drink can with it on end, without it being crushed - that's like the intact structure of the truck - but if one then taps the side of the can it alters the forces stressing it's shape end it immediately collapses - en exaggeration, but same principles for a damaged exoskeleton
I would also remind you that "sheet metal" vehicles are rarely "repaired" to close to the original condition, whereas a replaced alloy part is in original condition.
@@michellesmith4133
I think I'm in love 😍you hit (almost) all the triggers 🥰
I got a bit put off by your testicles 😮 when you have a female nom-de-plume and avatar, though - but then we live in interesting times, don't we?
Oh, yes, you're probably right, I have been complimented on the relative smoothness of mine when tea-bagged, but then you can't really trust those nubian slave girls after they reach menarch, can you?
We are already in the world of relatively minor accidents totally vehicles. Not because of major damage but because insurance companies are not willing to risk getting sued because they repaired a vehicle that then had another accident that could possibly be traced back to the original damage. This is why there is such a large "salvage" vehicle market that has sprung up. "Airbag deployed? Total it!" You're not wrong in your assessment, it's just a moot point these days.
Since this is the best truck ever, does it have a tailgate like every other truck ever? Or is there another accommodation for long boards or sheetrock?
I reserved a Cybertruck the night of the unveiling, coming in right at #22,000, so I'm hoping to get one of these by 2024. I don't really care about the looks, however I do care about not having to worry about rust, dents and dings. Nice video, thanks!
Two weeks on I've noticed a trend in the comments...Engineers and fabricators love the concept of the CT, while fossil fuel fans can't stand the idea of an electric truck that's more bad-ass than their flimsy noisy stinky slow expensive to maintain rust buckets.
Your a clown if you buy the shitty cybertruck!Everybody will laught about you!
How can you tell what number you are ?
It looks awesome!
During the day its an excellent truck for all those trucky type duties and in the evening it's a device for hunting evil aliens hell bent on destroying earth.
Same reason I want one. If it lasts it could be the last vehicle many people ever buy.
Will be able to sell it 50% over retail used. Trustme
this is by far your best video yet. Loved how you went through the entire process & explaining the truck.
At first I didn't like the design, but it's actually grown on me. And now that I know about the practical design choices, it's even more appealing. I'm actually quite angry at the currant design choices of the automotive industry after watching this. I think one of my life ambitions now is to own a cyber-truck.
I will let you know if best or worst if mine is ever made.. lol
Tesla's are just overpriced death traps that are maskerating as a cheap status symbols
Maybe you should try learning English before you post in English, just an idea. What dribble.
@@theopinionatedbystander says the biased elon fanboy
too dangerous forms, I hope it will be banned
You never talk about battery life when towing a serious load. I tow an 8,600 lb Airstream. With my RAM 1500, I get up to 350 miles per tank of gas towing that sucker and up to 700 miles when I am not towing. The Cybertruck is an interesting engineering project, but unless it can tow up to 10k lbs for 300 miles on a single charge in the middle of the winter or summer, it is not a "real" truck for real truck users.
It can tow a much larger load. But it’s not meant to be a work truck, so I think it’s still a win when compared to a RAM 1500 which still isn’t the best work truck available.
@@derrickstevenson5009 by definition trucks were for work. The video here, talked about how Cybertruck would be the truck that would up the game in every aspect. Cyber truck does have great payload and towing capacity, but falls short of towing that 300 miles. Closer to 200 to 250 miles.
maybe if you said hybrid SUV but it's a truck and trucks are functionally created to do specific tasks really really well, like towing or hauling.
The real reason is the install solar panels on roof of cyber truck and the truck itself changes the location based on availability of sun rays at varying angles.
This was very well done. My only gripe is now i am even more impatient to get my Cybertruck! Damn it. :)
Hope it doesn't catch on fire and burn your house down while you're sleeping, or catch fire on the side of the road and require hours to put out the fire, or crash during "autopilot" and create a multi car pileup!
Or not actually exist and work properly, like solar tiles or hyperloop
@@O1OO1O1 The LiFePO4 batteries that the Cybertruck will use don't catch on fire. If you don't know what that is, then you're definitely lost. Take your diesel Ram truck and shove it where the sun don't shine, kid.
@@O1OO1O1 We will leave that up to GM, they have the market on Marshmallow Cars.
@@trex2092 The Toasty Roasty GM Bolt. Even that is over done. Cars that burned in the first recall was about 10 but it may yet climb as GM has yet to swap out all the batteries. GO MARY B!
@@O1OO1O1 What is your beef with solar tiles?
It also helps to have a mass production vehicle that uses the same type of steel as the SpaceX starship. Economy of scale means reduced material costs across the board. Very smart way to keep the mills running melts for both companies.
If you really think anyone has gone into "outer" space, you have been duped.
@@fireballxl-5748 Don't look up!
@@TravisAnderson79 Don't do the research....like "looking up" Airy's Failure...the science experiment that was to prove the earth moved through "outer" space and FAILED.....meaning the earth was PROVED to be STATIONARY. The reason that experiment is not taught at universities...it goes against the dogma of modern "science". I'm serious about you NOT researching the subject. Unless you have a very strong constitution, such a realization will cause a paradigm shift in your thoughts and it may just break you psychologically. Travis, I'm in my mid-sixties. When younger, I tested only 2 points below genius. (never could make those last 2 points! Dang!) Why does water ALWAYS find it's level? That is, no curve. Lakes show no curvature, none. Long distance photography proves no curve. Radar shows no curve. Lasers go far past the distance they should be able to target because the curve should interfere, yet it doesn't....because it doesn't exist. No surveyor in the world accounts for "curvature" ... none. Ships can paint targets well past the range science says they should. And I'm just getting started. Mark Twain said it's harder to convince a man he has been fooled than to fool him in the first place. (how true!) That is because of ego involved. No one wants to admit he has been duped his entire life on such a simple thing. The atomic bomb tests of the sixties were not testing what you think. There is a firmament over the earth (a dome, if you will) and the nations were trying to poke a hole or crack in it. Even if they failed at that they were able to map its' shape. (I'm really talky tonight...lol) But please, stick with the gubermint lies unless you have the stomach to bear the truth being different than you've believed all your life.
You’re a wacko.
@@reserva120 Oh that's a brilliant argument. Think of that all on your own? Ad hominem is the last resort of the empty mind. If you don't know what that means (as I suspect) look it up
Considering structural integrity, a collision of two Cybertrucks should yield interesting results.
yes the drivers become the crumple zones
@@1ukjunglednbraverthat's what we want to see
It will form a black hole.
@1ukjunglednbraver the metal will bend or shatter,tesla can make cuts on the interior of the plates to brake and crumple like crumplezones
im waiting for crash test results. then i might be sold.
I have been driving cars early in life & have driven lots of different cars even before being legal age to get a license, on first sight i liked this product & is quiet practical considering lots of different things i learned after rigorous testing of lots of different cars . Considering geometry, ride height, vehicle dimensions, light positioning, everything seems on point based on the video from what i want from an ideal car . would obviously miss that roaring engine feel though. It has a forward leaning stance which is there in some fighter jets & motorbikes too & seems practical & appealing . Best invention ever.
The Cybertruck will be a game changer for sure 😅
What about crashes and crumple zones? That’s what I’m curious about
I was also thinking about that. Only one shown so far, but excluded from the video, are the collapsing windows 😉 Jokes asides it would be interesting to know about its safety features.
@@TheRealStructurer there are none
The Cybertruck will be safer than any truck ever built with the bullet proof exoskeleton
@@reicherk If it’s too rigid it will not absorb the force and harm not only people in the Tesla, but also the other part. But I trust Elon to make it safe 👍🏻
Personally I believe police departments are going to scoop these things up. You'll never get robbed at a charging station unless it's by the cops 😂😂😂
This is a wonderful addition to the auto market. The engineering and the "outside the box" thinking that has been developing this revolutionary beast of a auto, and now made this beast a reality I applaud.. 👌👌
Go Tesla... 👍🥰
It also doesn't hurt that such a design for an indestructible truck guaranteed to last a million miles would be invaluable on a Mars base in the future.
Many of Elon's projects have enough wiggle room to be quite useful on Mars, like the Boring Company and the Tesla Robots.
Till no one buys 'em, fanboi... I actually agree with you, but the masses don't.
@@protorhinocerator142 "Boring Company and the Tesla Robots."
please explain how is a tunnel or an 1980 grade robot usefull on mars? 🤦♂🤣
More like "inside the box"!
Outside the box thinking it is a box retard
What was failed to be mentioned and explained is that yes, the CT will have an exoskeleton but, it still has to have a front and rear casting frame, which is what the 9000 ton press is for, which is the major delay in production for the CT. It is still going to have a frame, just not one that is designed to be the main structure. Their will be a front casting, and a rear casting and a battery pack, joined together makes the frame. Then the exoskeleton will be bolted to that. But the CT won't rely on the frame for it's rigidity but the outer shell will be it's structure.
So you didn’t watch the video?
@@500846 No, the video didn't explain that there IS going to be a subframe under the exoskeleton for Cybertruck. You can see it in different renderings that Tesla has put out since the launch date. Most big fans of Cybertruck (I have 2 preorder reservations and am a $TSLA shareholder) have seen that it will have an aluminum subframe made from one or several large castings. That's what the giga press is for, to cast aluminum, not to press out the stainless steel body.
@@Nphen watch it again….
Love the Cybertruck appearance! Looks so futuristic.
There is nothing more beautiful. 😮
A big question with the stronger/stiff shell, is passenger safety! The old cars with hard body would show signs of little damage in a collision but the passenger often still got killed due to the harsh shock of impact. The newer softer body vehicles are designed to crush and absorb that impact. Will the cyber truck be able to protect the soft squishy passengers inside? Other than this very important thought, I LOVE THE IDEA AND DESIGN of the cybertruck and if affordable, I would certainly buy one if it has enough range (including winter) to tow a 21ft camper. :)
Maybe they are counting on the other car to absorb the impact for them???
It is as affordable as similar products from GM and Ford, wait a year for video's of winter performance and see what others discover, then you have your answer.
As long as you crash into another modern squishy vehicle you'll be fine.
Tesla uses advanced airbags. It’s very safe, don’t even need seat belts
Also can’t see it passing European ‘pedestrian’ regs.
As a fabricator and mechanic, I will never see the Cyber truck the same. This video helped me go from "eh, not for me" to "I hope to own one some day". If there one thing I hate its rotten frames, corrosion, rust, holes. The truck will outlast the battery life though. So it would be cool to make the battery somewhat easily replaceable. That stainless body with all of the aluminum underneath will last a long time (for those of us not near salt water). It's ugly as hell but it has major soul!
The structural 4680 battery in the standard range model Y was fairly easy to remove but it didn't follow it so closely on Munro Live.
I think it was bolted to the other parts all along making it structural - it wasn't impossible to get out without tearing everything up.
Modern li-ion batteries lose like 10% range but stabilizes. If you have that wiggly room in your need it can be a long time before replacing. The number of charge cycles and the range gives that 500 000 miles ought to be no major problem then the majority of them.
I have a robotic lawn mower that also uses li-ion (10x 18650 cells) battery. It's now at 2784 charge cycles after 6 summers (it basically charges 6 times a day when doing 24/7 so it rakes them up quicker than a car). That's the equivalent of well over 500k miles on a Tesla model 3 long range.
So we have prior precedence (that's better than how a phone battery is abused) to predict how they will hold up.
I don't have any battery electric car but watching the lawn mower work so well, without active thermal management of the battery and any kick ass battery management system as a Tesla makes me just shake the head when the naysayers say the battery will need replacing soon.
Retired military Aircraft Mechanic, (Aviation Structural Mech), this is like a Christmas Present.
I do a bit of machining. My machines are mostly antique that come to me junked. Have a 40" air over hydraulic press brake so I kind of enjoy bending sheet metal. People have no idea how impressive a 1/8" SS body will be. This could be the truck that gets handed down generation to generation . Just freshen the suspension and battery as required. In 10 or 20 years there will be after market electronics alongside rebuilt ones. Parts for this truck are going to be all over the aftermarket. We are about to witness a car cult larger than that of the VW Bug and Van. Unlike the VWs we will not waste out lives patching rusty sheet metal.
@@subwarpspeed Looks like changing a structural battery is much easier than changing an ICE engine. I think the number I seen was 4 hours.
@@trex2092 it’s not!
Brilliant content, slick presentation. Never liked the design of the cyber truck, but now having been informed I can appreciate the achievement. It’s smart!
It should be called the Smart Truck!
Form at times follows function. Tesla is after a function and as is pointed out, the general form is set by that.
The other thing that most people miss is the massive advance that the 4680 batteries with their tab less design brings. There are some good videos that explain that advance. Again that is design following function. The purpose of the batteries is to deliver massive amounts of current and the tab less design is great for that.
I can't wait to see many of them personalized & customized. It's a clean slate.
I like it more now that I understand that the form follows the function rather than just looking different for the sake of difference.
Best truck invention ever so far, can't wait until my order of one!
Are you dumb or smocking something!? The best truck ever made is chassis on frame! It allows basically everything from chassis extension to payload upgrade! Significantly better customizations and equipments like cranes, and many other things like RV conversions, ambulance, rescue vehicle……
Let’s not forget normal trucks that comes in single oder double cab longer or shorter beds…… the cubits utter crap!
Very researched and enjoyable video. There's just a few problems with it.
1. What we have now are a bunch of 3d renderings and a prototype vehicle that hasn't been real-world tested. Many many questions remain. Tesla are only releasing positive information out. Unless it's the "bulletproof glass" fiasco. By the way you probably wouldn't want a bulletproof glass on your truck unless you intend to drive it in a war zone.
2. Stainless steel vehicles have been tried before and didn't catch on for a reason. There are issues with temperature regulation and more.
3. The "weight of the paint" is minuscule compared to advantages of paint protection
4. Most likely the design cannot be approved by governments because there are many regulations that prevent sharp angles in vehicles in order to protect pedestrians.
5. Repairs and replacements would probably be a major problem for such a vehicle.
In short the cybertruck is much closer to being vaporware than being actually a viable thing.
I never understood Europe's no sharp edge rule..... how many pedestrians are surviving a truck hitting them ?
There are real world prototype versions that have been driven and tested.
Thanks for adding your opinion tho, maybe check the facts before you do next time 😊
Americans stop the car and drive back, crushing any survivors of street accidents. That saves insurance payouts which come to millions if the body can still move.....
Good points you make. Yanks just live in illusion-land in wooden huts that get blown away in a strong wind, but need three cars littering up the "yard" to go to the 'mall', to buy more crap for the mouths watching screens at home. They have zero concept of 'long term'.
2023 01 14 10:52
Excellent video. We are all used to the look of trucks... they all look essentially the same. A lifetime of aesthetic acceptance is tested when a completely new and different design comes along. When you look at all the reasons why the Tesla design is as good, and probably much better, than conventional truck design... at a minimum, Musk should be given huge credit for thinking outside the box... over, and over, and over again. He is truly changing the world to a degree no one before him has done.
Steve job's was first Elon second they are the ONLY TWO I am aware of and both are disliked by the many Jealous incompetent's!
@@77.88. Jesus, Nicolas Tesla, Albert Einstein, Steve jobs, Then Elon. This I would say a more accurate list as to who changed the world the most.
No. Musk get no "credit". He's a repugnant and vile political anarchist that deserves to have all his companies implode in on themselves for his anti-American, pro-authoritarian and pro-White Nationalist dangerous rhetoric he constantly spews on social media. I'm enjoying the slow burn meltdown of his financial empire. Good riddance to this jackzaz.
@@privatename3621 Aren't you just the judgmental little snippet who has accomplished nothing... jealous much?
@@billderinbaja3883 And don't we all wish the German people in the 1930's and 40's were just a big more 'judgemental' about the dark forces conspiring to replace their democracy with an authoritarian dictatorship? It starts with people like Musk, cheer leading for the demise of the of the very system that provided for his success, all in the name of racism and profit.
The major selling point of pick up trucks is the tailgate that allows heavy items to be put in the back. Also, construction items need to be moved that are eight feet long. So the box area should accommodate this feature. Other than that it looks like a great truck. Not sure about driver visibility though. Would have to drive one to know.
Probably 90% of 1/2 ton trucks are not used for work anymore. They're just personal vehicles that occasionally carry something. Cyber Truck bed is a lot bigger than most people think.
I still think it's ugly and I don't want to buy one...but it's growing on me. lol
Also these clips r very in depth and laid out very well with good info on manufacturing processes 2 thumbs up 2 the commentary and this channel thank u
Well done!
The question is, will it outsell the AMC Pacer?
Can't wait! Getting tired of hearing my buddies asking when my truck will be made.
If you stop talking about it I’m pretty sure they won’t ask about it.
@@TheRealBalloonHead My silence is deafening. I didn't phrase my statement correctly. They are enjoying giving me crap about the two year delay. "So, Warzat' bigol' ceebertruk you used to talk bout'"
One point you missed was the design of the trianglular rear structures. Normal pickup trucks have a separate attached rectangular bed. Ever seen trucks from collisions with the bed broken off? The CT has an integrated rear section as part of the whole pressing so the whole body is structurally strong. (Note that the Honda also has a triangular unibody rear design. Better but not integral.) Some have noticed that you can't reach down into the bed of the CT but because you can electrically lower the rear suspension, you can now reach into the bed even easier than the F150!
@@MrHighAnxiety63 Not the reason its separate on normal pickups. I believe its because of the flexing in the frame. If the body was hole it would bend going on rough roads.
Actually I've never seen a bed come off the frame in an accident. Also, an F150 has one of the most inaccessible beds among brands due to side panel height. That said, I'm impressed with Elon's truck.
@@jeffs6819yup
I think it's beautiful. I'm buying one. Great content! Well presented! 👍
Thanks for the explanation. I must admit, I was one of the people complaining about the ugly look, but now that I understand about the reason and the engineering I appreciate what Telsa has done. I might even buy one now!
There are some aspects of the design that you did not consider. The use case/scenarios for what a work truck needs. I’m not saying that this truck won’t pass muster at all, but from a construction working POV, I can see some potential negatives. For instance the fact that the rear bed-sides aren’t level, but at an angle making it useless for situations where a level surface for carrying or working may be desired (like snowmobile decks, camper shells, work racks, etc). I’m not going to hack into it in a comment, but those use cases are extremely important for the “tough truck” crowd. The Silicon Valley ski nomads are probably fine since they could just buy another truck.
The have they're own camper shell design you know and a flat style utility bed attachment, may want to look into that.
@@Alturvexs Plus people add all kinds of things to truck beds to adapt them to their needs. I wonder how well the bed sides on those aluminum trucks hold up to non silicone valley use? The video said GM is working on some kind of composite solution for the bed floor, which means the aluminum bed is maybe only holding up to an occasional IKEA haul? Now I'm curious if people still throw a scoop of gravel or a pallet of cinder blocks in those aluminum trucks?
@@insurrectionistorange Well I sure know the difference from the old truck that was made from steal from back in the 80's and earlier model was far stronger than today's aluminum trucks, We have a few of them still. This is why I am so exited about the cyber truck and it's versatility
Great point !!! I didn't even consider that...
@@Alturvexs I've had a few steel bed trucks over the years and never had a second thought about dragging engine blocks, transmissions and suspension parts with sharp edges across it, or using shovels to transfer gravel, sand and amendments from the bed. I wonder how composite or aluminum holds up under these uses?
Excellent explanation, thank you! How come it's the first time I have seen someone explain all this? 🙂
right? my thoughts as well lol
Once I heard that the truck can withstand 9mm bullets and can tow over 20k, I placed my order! This truck is a BEAST!!!!
It will do neither of those in the end.
This is a vehicle that has been thoroughly researched, planned, designed, and built with true purpose. Every aspect of the Tesla Cybertruck has a reason for being a part of the build, and is powerful on so many levels. Highly impressive. Traditional truck builders, take notes and learn something! We, as comsumers, want more than just a flash in the pan pretty-pretty to drive.
We use our truck to collect the wood we heat with, from up on a mountain, and for camping and the like. We drive on lots of rocky, difficult mountain roads. The cybertruck looks great to me, I mean practical. Like it will haul a trailer for wood or rock, and will carry camping gear.
This piece explains well the quality thinking involved how we should build everything. . BRAVO
Crap!!!!
thank you for clarifying the need for this truck to look the way it does. I thought it was a terrible shell until you pointed out how the panels cannot be curved or bent to accomodate styling. I don't like pick up trucks because so many people buy them for the wrong reasons. The cybertruck looks like it can be shipped to Ukraine for warfare. Actually, every high ranking official in every country will want one for security. Lol.
I love my model 3 and perhaps the cybertruck won't be too big to go down narrow streets so I guess it's still better than ICE or diesel pickups.
I’d love to get me one of those Cyber Trucks. Awesome look.
What a thorough analysis, actually GREAT.
I learned a lot from the different kind of car frames.
It's so kool! I can't wait to see one. We get to see Starship take off the first time soon too. We need more companies like Cyber X.
That was an excellent analysis and breakdown relating to the Tesla cybertruck. Well done, thank you and best wishes.
Very well done! But if the Body varies from 0.2-4mm in thickness, its kinda misleading to claim the body is made out of 1/8 inch steel, as most of it might be much much thinner.
I love this truck especially after seeing the ingenious engineering that went into it.
Hiya Chuck.
1. I do not think you understand the definition of “ingenious”.
1.a. Before you throw a big 🎉… please show us the truck. 😊
60seconds in and im subscribing. Well done!
From the moment i saw the Cybertruck, I've seen it as beautiful, slick, futuristic, and a Deco-ish example of design in metal.
ONE THING I have yet to see the cybercar/truck do is complete a DOT crash test ~ THE RESULTS is what they've been hiding - those sharp edges would rip into any other vehicle and kill the occupants and a bent-box frame like that would NOT absorb an impact, making the kinetic energy for the passengers far more deadly.
Good point
Yeah, and pedestrians are killed when hit by less than 10mph
I love the science behind the design but one thing that worries me. What will the repair ability of the large castings be?
If one of the large casting sections were to crack in a collision would the entire vehicle be totaled?
Go watch Sandy munro’s videos on the 2022 Texas built Model Y. There are sacrificial parts that protect the casting in low speed collisions, just like any other vehicle. In more intense collision some parts of the casting could be broken but easily welded. If the subframe is damage such that it needs replaced the accident will destroy the vehicle in any case and you will probably be injured or worse as the vehicle sacrifices itself to save you.
Why not Ferrari gets over One Hundred Thousand dollars for an old car frame?
After an accident this type of construction would no longer be legal to drive in countries where they test vehicles every two years for safety. In usa no one cares about safety, so no big deal.
2023 01 14 10:19
Thanks for such a comprehensive explanation of what makes the cybertruck so revolutionary. I would have liked to have had you cover the lifespan of the battery pack and what might be involved in replacing it at the end of it's life cycle. It seems obvious that with the truck's strength and resistance to corrosion that a very long lifespan of the body is to be expected.
I've been reading that the batteries don't do well in the cold weather. I live in New England, and it won't work for me.
@@robertkeiser8478 Nonsense.
The batteries are pushing a million mile life cycle. So probably not an issue.
Bullshit!!! Which revolutionary!? It’s a crap truck not made for flexibility or actual usability like a normal truck, basically allows no modifications it’s just utter crap!
It’s going to have about 1000hp to not even be able to haul as much as a 450hp ford f450 what a crap!
Nice video and analysis of the Cybertruck, now I want one.
The engineering behind the CT is amazing
Thirteen and one-half minutes ago the Cybertruck was a "stupid ugly truck". After this video, I look at it through new eyes or at least refocused eyes. Well done assembling the information and presenting it in a manner I could digest. When they make one that I can drive 600 miles in January, I'll be looking at them a lot more seriously.
600 miles in January with a few hundred pounds of cargo in back with the bed open and it might start to viable for construction work. I'll be keeping an eye on it.
The original Land Rover Series/Defenders had a body on frame setup but had an aluminium body, which worked perfectly as a work vehicle during its 71 year production. Thick, durable burmabrite aluminium.
Land Rover is today almost fully aluminum built. But not structural or massive castings that can fail. Nothing will ever beat a steel chassis! There is a reason why trucks and semis have them.
Land Rovers are infamous for its reliability. So many problems… I wish Toyota built them.
@@sparkpaul Indeed I owned many of them. Early ones are sort of contraption-like but known a lot to put Hilux engines in them.
Land Rovers were painted mostly military looking or came looking BC they were used widely for hunting!
@@carholic-sz3qv did you even watch the video?
I think it looks awesome. The fact that it’s practical only amazes me. It’s aptly named, looks ultra modern, cyber and unreal. Like out of a game or movie. I would love one. 😁
great video 👍
some corrections here- traditional trucks use the dual beam layout because they need strength concentrated all around the powertrain since trucks are expected to tow things. A monocoque design is going to be worse for towing, all things being equal (and electric trucks are not really made for towing).
The dual beam layout also helps keep the CoG low, something that battery-drive vehicles can accomplish with a low slung battery pack.
Another reason for the beam design is to allow isolation of the cab from the truck bed- a requirement for actual work trucks to provide modularity, comfort, and performance.
Finally, a monocoque design does poorly with the low height of the truck bed sides. This is why the Chevy avalance has those diagonal bars on either side of the bed, and why the 1st gen Honda Ridgeline had that Cybertruck-esque shape. Its hard to get the rear end stiff enough to allow for rear suspension without a C pillar in the monocoque frame, which is why the Cybertruck also has that sloping bed side shape.
Are you saying the Cybertruck will be worse at towing than the average truck?
@@nav579 Undoubtedly. The Cybertruck is not (and no electric truck is) is made for towing. Thats not their purpose. They are mostly made to push the envelope of technology, development, and to be a loss leader for their respective brands.
Got mine reserved but wonder when they will start shipping. The number of orders is huge but it was done when the price was unrealistic and required no deposit. When they start asking people to place a deposit for a truck that will likely be over $100K those reservations will have a reality check. I’m super excited about owning one and not that worried about it taking too long because of that. I own two Plaids, an S and an X and I can’t be happier with those cars.
You must be wealthy! Good for you! I will get there one day. Cybertruck will be mine even though atm I couldn't afford it but by the time mine will be ready for shipment and paperwork etc. I should have the capital to purchase this fine beast of a machine!
Cyber truck will cost $69,420
@@johnnymonsters9717 that’s interesting. Where did you get that info from?
Where do you get the truck being expensive. The lack of a paint shop and body stamping machines are huge savings.
There was a minimal deposit of $100. The prices will likely go up some due to inflation but the whole manufacturing process is designed to save a lot of money over a traditional truck.
Back in 1970, a program appeared on British TV called UFO. The creators Gerry & Sylvia Anderson already designed these trucks- I suspect Elon Musk was a fan of C21 Productions! I was, and was 12 watching UFO! Elon's dad must have been one too!
They did the moon landing film too. Thunderbirds was the name I remember from the 1960s. Puppets where you could see the strings sometimes. There's even a bank with that name I saw in USA once with that name 😂 Now who would put his money in a bank with that name? Or even crazier: "wells Fargo Bank"😂🤣😅
Excellent job explaining reasoning and logic behind the Cybertruck nicely done.
Thanks for this great video. Just one little correction: the strongest form in geometry is the sphere.
How are you going to replace the batteries if they are part of the frame?
One thing I wonder about is the aluminum on the bottom. Is that strong enough to protect that battery if you hit a big rock? I'm just a dummy so I don't know. I wish the bottom was the same stainless though
Two layers of the stainless steel should be on the bottom to prevent penetration of the batteries by large or angular pieces of road debris.
I thought the same thing when I saw that in the video.... other than the passengers, it's the most crucial thing to protect, and in arguably the most impact prone and all around dangerous areas of a truck...
You are a dummy, but ask the most important question (after spent batteries). One rock hidden by tall grass will destroy the whole show, but its protected by a flimsy sheet of aluminium. "Gee mom, is that enough?"
"Sure sonny, it's rust proof"
2023 01 14 09:47
@@kennethkeen1234 thanks for your uneducated guess
@@jamiered7102 I AM ENLIGHTENED
Thanks for putting it all together. Like Starship construction, TESLA probably uses new methods developed over a long time it is taking to launch
Crap!!! New which methods!? Wtf!!
@@carholic-sz3qv SpaceX has developed stainless steel manufacturing techniques progressing from the crude flying water tower-looking demonstration rocket 2 years into the fine quality complex components of the current Starship about to launch, the same used in Cybertruck. Pots and pans are made of the same stuff and can look pretty spiffy. TESLA and SpaceX engineers are free to work at either facility especially to cooperate on new methods and designs. Soon we will see.
Thanks for the reply.
Everything I design is from first principles - I fell in absolute love with the Cybertruck when I first saw it, because I saw what it truly was, and imagined all sorts of awesome things to do with it.
I preordered one pretty quickly, I can’t wait. Although I guess I have to 😂
Naručio bih ga i ja olakšo bi mi život samo ja živim u državi di bih trebao živjet bar 5 života da ga kupim.😢😢😢
Once the information is laid out on how and why. This is genius! I have to admit this puts this vehicle on the top of my list. Nice job!
Most people cannot afford the Cybertruck. Until I win the lottery.
if I got hold of one of these, I'd take out the centre console and the back seats, and if possible cut through to the back and build a little house inside it and then live happily ever after. Love that it can go in water like a boat, better yet would be submarine capabilities so I could head from the uk to France and little trips like that. For crossing the Atlantic I guess getting on a bigger boat might be a bit more relaxing.
Don't forget the bonus flying pig!
@@anthonyalles1833 Haha! Attachable rocket upgrade available spring of 2026.
It will be interesting when they actually announce the final design, pricing, and schedule.
In 2027
This will be a great innovation for owners who live in northern climates, like Buffalo, NY, where cities use salt on the roads in winter. I grew up in such a city, and all cars, even ones with a coated undercarriage, got rusted out after a few years.
10:41 the under body is aluminium so galvanic corrosion will still occur
@@_cloudface_ yep, and that is where the batteries will be.... honestly the stainless will still corrode as well i don' tunderstand where people get resistant versus cannot rust ....
stainless can rust.... in my experience 316 graded stainless you could still bend and form while getting better resistance (to the point it is the grade used in nuclear facilities) but its more costly to use....
i know of 400, 600 grade series existing but not sure or what gauge you can get it in.... would require some research if it would be viable
@@wnxdafriz From what I understand: 1) the stainless is quite thick, relatively, so it will oxidize more slowly than car metal. But if the salt does get to it the problem of repairing the bad area isn't so easily solved. 2) there is a thin aluminum sheet covering the bottom which could be replaced if corroded.
@@_cloudface_ However aluminum oxide (i.e. aluminum rust) acts as a protective layer against further corrosion. What you will get is a white powder look but, except under extreme conditions, that's about as far as it goes.
Thanks for the information, plenty of details explained.
Dude the body of a regular car adds rigidity to the frame, it’s not like it’s made from gummy worms.
Sounds wonderful. I didn't hear any mention of safety of passengers, or cost of repairing if in accident. All of these one piece sections of truck or car must be huge cost to replace. Have they done any crash testing yet?
I'm pretty sure I heard Tesla will have smaller replacement pieces for repairs, no need to replace the whole piece. Much like how collision centers use a patch panel rather than replace an entire quarter panel.
"ordinary" cars are designed to collapse to absorb the forces in a crash while the passenger compartment is rigid to protect from parts entering (engine, etc.). If the whole body is rigid, the forces on the passengers will be much larger. All cars and trucks? need to be tested and get rated, in Europe with Euro NCAP. I will wait and see how the Cybertruck fares before speculating more. The Cybertruck is not street legal in Europe as it will not comply to the safety regulations such as the pedestrian and cyclist protection standards. It will be sold in the USA as many vehicles there are exempt from pedestrian protection protocols, but to be sold in Europe, changes to the body shape and materials are needed which will make the Cybertruck a completely different animal.
No one can get past the government boys without being tested or money under the table similar to the BLINDING headlights? Yup everything he makes is only for the RICH except the sell out to China.
@@andersdannstedt5825 Don't destroy the yanky dream man! Let them rave on and then have to face the consequences. Serious scientists will arrive to do the clean-up after all the dollars have been pocketed.
@@catsaregovernmentspies When designing parts a decision if the part is also to be a spare part is made. These spare parts have to be stored so they can be ordered and used when repairing. These parts also needs to be kept long after the model it was designed for has been replaced. This can be a considerable cost. The company I worked for, Scania (trucks) had to keep spare parts for 25 years in case of trucks for Nato countries. Customers usually get a little angry if their car/truck/ ... cannot be repaired 10 years after purchase. This means that special tools for repairing also need to be "spare parts". This is why one want as many parts to be "carry over" till the next generation/model, or at least the new parts can replace the old part. This is a design decision to reduce cost, otherwise the number of spare parts will grow over time which leads to high cost of keeping spare parts as they have been manufactured at a cost that that will not be refunded until the spare part is ordered and paid for.
Can't wait to get mine. This will be the best ranch pickup ever made. As an engineer, I appreciate that Tesla focuses on product performance and quality rather than shareholders, who are only interested in short term returns. As weird looking as the cybertruck is, it is that way for a purpose. The Rivian on the other hand is just ugly for no purpose.
You hit it on the head, Black Rock proves your theory everyday!
Best ranch truck ? You are delusional.
@@bobbybishop5662 Why do you feel that way? What prevents this truck from being ideal for a farm and ranch application? From my perspective it would be much better in many ways than any of the ranch trucks we have ever had.
Some people can’t get past what’s traditional. If it was good enough for gramps. It’s futuristic looking and it’s electric. One thing that would for sure hurt it as a ranch truck is the towing issue. So far electric trucks just can’t tow far enough.
To start with the average ranch truck would be a 3/4 or 1 ton truck with a 5th wheel capacity from 20000 to 32000 lbs capable of towing a stock trailer full of cattle of horses. The bed length is only around 6ft rather than a standard 8ft bed. Ranch truck are many times carrying a portable diesel welder and and or a diesel transfer tank holding up to 100 gal of diesel fuel for refueling in the field. The unibody construction isn't ideal for tough terrian especially when heavily loaded under towing situations. Ranch trucks typically get the crap best out them. I don't see it as much more than a city truck with different styling than what has be the norm for pickups. Personally I think it's about ugly as it could be.
What about crush zones so that the passengers don't experience the full shock of a collision? And how are they dealing with the corrosion problems when 2 different types of metal come into contact.
If you glue it together the different metals aren't really touching. The aluminum castings should act as the crumple zones. There's no engine to deal with unlike conventional vehicles.
Tesla engineers are pretty good at designing crumple zones… I’m sure they’ll manage.
Amazing explanation I want one when they are finally available down under 😎
LOVE LOVE this truck❤
This isn't a push back but to strengthen your arguments.
1. Entire steel body of cars are galvanised to prevent rusting. It goes into a large pool of hot dip deep enough that car attached to rails goes through a full somersault to ensure all its nooks and crannies are fully covered and treated. This technique pioneered by Audi in 1980's, works so effectively that now virtually all steel cars receive this expensive treatment. All cars in the past suffered significant rusting and required regular welding and body panel work. Now, Cybertruck probably eliminates this process altogether.
2. Painting including various treatments is another very expensive process, up to 16 layers could be applied including multiple layers of primer, undercoat, paint and wax. It may need baking in low temp oven in between, it takes time, labour, energy and space. Yes, it adds a lot of weight, it's prone to damage during manufacturing that then needs manual repairs and reprocessing. Yes, it's an expensive and elaborate process eliminated from Cybertruck, thanks to stainless steel
Crap!!
@@carholic-sz3qv Hi Crap,
This is UA-cam, not your parental home!
@@soundslight7754 that’s what she said lol…….
@@carholic-sz3qv Everyone sees according to their own level, understanding, education, intelligence, experience and social class
@@soundslight7754 lol….. what are you trying to suggest!?
Excellent video, this is so well explained and simplified! Literally anybody can understand the reasons behind the making, and really the cyber truck is a game changer🤩🤩🤩🤩
I did notice one thing and its the same with a lot of vehicles now. The sloped windshield creates a long "A" pillar on each side. This causes a blind spot for the driver when pedestrians use a cross walk. And I believe this is why a lot of pedestrians get hit by vehicles. I'm sure the design structures will take off, but I can tell you one thing, you cannot beat the wrap around windshields of the older vehicles which gave the driver better frontal vision. Maybe your design engineers can come up with a better windshield design to try and move those "A" pillars or eliminate them some how from blocking corner vision. Structurally the design I believe is strong but maybe later a little dressing design on the front would look good. As of right now the vehicle looks very plain. Good video.
Yep, possibly the least pedestrian friendly design of the last fifty years.
Those A pillars will make for great tunnel vision.
Bags of glare off the sloping windscreen, and dashboard reflections.
Wonder how it fares in crash testing.
Best of luck repairing panels if they _do_ get damaged.
But I'm sure we'll find out how they perform in the real world very soon.
Always loved the Cybertruck
As soon as the battery pack issues are solved I'll be buying one
The shape is also much more aerodynamic than a traditional boxy truck. This will help solo range a great deal. Since most trucks are actually not towing most of the time, this saves a lot of charging cost and time. Also, it helps performance.
too dangerous forms, I hope it will be banned
True. Aerodynamics is a massive part of the design since "fuel" economy is still the number one concern of the electric vehicle. Unfortunately, this truck isn't ready for the construction industry yet as it has a small bed and it would lose all that aerodynamic shape if you have the back open carrying stuff all the time (as opposed to private ownership that is hardly used for it's utility ability.
@@smgdfcmfah It’s shape will still be favourable compared to a boxy truck even with the tail open, just not optimal. And the bed size is larger than US best sold truck as far as I know, so…for a lot of businesses it probably will suffice
@@ytyaroon That bed is 6'5" - a work truck tends to have an 8' bed. Having the back open and cargo in it will completely destroy the aerodynamics - it's just the way it works. It may have slightly les drag than a standard pick-up, it it will be negligible, which is the point. I'm not against this truck, but as long as charging and range is the limiting factor, then towing and aerodynamics are key to these vehicles (things the gas burners don't really need to worry about).
i can’t judge about work trucks, my argument is most sold truck, the F150, does not have a larger bed than de CT. To your other point: Of course, cargo in the back that is stacked high, maybe even higher than the cabin, will cause drag. As it will in conventional truck. However, this will not alter the front aero and that does matter. Just look at semi: front aero, back all boxy but still twice as aerodynamically efficient as a conventional semi. The gains of the better front end aero of CT will always help.
When you factor in likely 4 wheel independent steer and drive by wire, air suspension, torque vectoring….cant wait
Nope it’s not happening
@@carholic-sz3qv electrical car by definition is drive by wire. What do you mean not going to happen?
@@quansun7633 are you just dumb or what!? What in the system is drive by wire!? Because ICE also have same type of steering and many other systems like braking…… explain yourself! Lol…..
@@quansun7633 manufacturers are still developing and making steer by wire more effective just like brake by wire….. those things are not been used in mass now! Except I think Nissan or Toyota.
@@quansun7633 Audi already has brake by wire no tesla
The underside is made of aluminum. I'm wondering if one could swap that out and use the same steel as the body for off-roading?
You will probably have to add a steel skid plate.
Aluminum works fine for off-roading too. Just has to be thicker than steel would, but is still lighter for thicker aluminum that provides the same strength.
I am sure the after market will step up with all sorts of off road accessories. Snow plow and winch mounts for the front end, Stainless, Aluminum or even titanium skid plates. Cow catchers, gun racks, roof racks, campers, over the bed snowmobile racks etc.
@@rollyrauenhorst4545 lol etc., etc., etc. Nothing is impossible.
How heavy is a can of paint... after it has completely dried up, and you take the can away
So much thanks 🙏 and thanks 🙏
The design is obviously made function over form, but there were definitely a lot of ways to make the cyber truck look less "cyber", while still keeping low cost, manufacturability and simplicity. The cyber truck look is definitely a conscious choice.
It kinda feels like you didn't watch the video
I take my own experience as a mechanical engineer over a Tesla enthusiast UA-cam channel who combines information as best as they can to form a video. No offense to the channel, the video was great but not always correct from a technical perspective.
So are we still going to pretend years later that the dude with the sledge hammer was actually trying to hit the cyber truck hard? literally hit it with 10% power.
Hit any other car with the same hammer and the same power. Let me know what the owner thinks.
@@Plisko1 both would leave a dent. The point is he didn't swing nearly as hard on the cyber truck. Anyone not bias can see that.
@@NeonGore I said the same swing. His swing didn't leave a dent. So that doesn't even make sense. Most cars have very thin metal. You don't need a sledge hammer. You can dent them with your fist. Even a light tap with that hammer is a good demo compared to any other truck. If it's bias... it's a bias toward believing in physics.
@@Plisko1 I still don't think you understand. The point was comparing dents but if you're swinging 1/3 as hard on the cyber truck as you did on the normal door then it completely makes the test irrelevant. This is plain common sense.
@@NeonGore I understand your point but I never saw a stronger swing on a normal door.. Did you? It's a valid point if they did... but I must have missed it. My point was even that swing probably would have left a dent in a normal door... but it is my own estimate.
That's all fine in theory, but let's see how it goes after sales and what customers have to say after some time in use. By the way when is it going to market for real ?
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I have my doubts. Saying it's going to be the best and longest lasting truck is based on nothing but hopes and dream. I like CT but let's be real here, Teslas aren't close to be the best built vehicles out there, and Elon now has a great track record of over promising capabilities.
It will be out when everyone forgets about it. That way it's less embarrassing when it's shown to be total garbage (like the semi)
Nice! Changed my attitude about the Cyber Truck
Great video
It seems the battery pack will be under extreme stress in certain situations with this design. Having personally designed an EV, I am a bit wary of what seems to be the "Achilles Heel " of the Cybertruck.
One dent in a quarter panel and the whole vehicle is structurally compromised. There is a reason body on frame works so well. So your $70,000 vehicle isn't insurance totaled after a fender bender
@@CaptainRon1913 That's pretty much the norm these days, anyway. Between crumple zones, engines dropping out and insanely expensive airbags popping off, everything seems to be write off. No wonder the insurance rates have gotten so insane. As for a dent in the quarter panel destroying the structural integrity - says who? The beauty of this material is that dents can be popped out without any problem.
Let's drop the term 'pickup truck.' It's called a Cybertruck exactly because it shares nothing in common with the legacy 'work' truck save tires. Rather than think 'outside the box,' like F and GM's silly tailgate battle, Tesla engineers rethought X and created a new box - a triangle.
Settle down little Paully.
It's kind of like the El Camino
Or because it’s c rap truck totally impractical compared to normal truck! What about modifications….. it’s totally useless! With 1000hp it can barely (tow 14,000lbs) while a 450hp ford truck tows up to 35,000lbs to remote places even.
A truck with no removable bed! No single cab configuration…..is totally stupid and retarded! A simple hilux is much more versatile than that.
@@carholic-sz3qv calling me retarded? You’re making fun of people with a mental disability they can’t control? How sad.
I totally like the design. After watching the video, I like it even more. It’s almost like building a stealth fighter jet. I like to see more videos with the add on accessories for outdoor camping and off-roading capabilities.
I dreamed this vehicle into existence. 😎💪🏾
Great video, thank you! I think what drove Elon to build this Cybertruck comes from his experience living in dangerous countries. South Africa, South or Central America.. places where thugs are brazen enough to attack drivers of expensive cars with weapons in broad day light. It forces thousands of wealthy drivers to spend fortunes on bullet proof windows and panels and tires… The Cybertruck is an instant solution at a fraction of the cost and I’m sure this vehicle will be most popular in the developing world and least popular in modern nations like Europe. The Cybertruck is never going to be a mass market product but could probably globally sell as well as the S or X with high profit margin.
And California. And USA. 😂