Stainless steel., just don't get it wet, clean it immediately if it gets dirty, and don't drive it off road and you'll be fine. You could also pay an extra $5,000 for a protective coat that comes standard on every other vehicle sold.
Conversely stainless steel seems to have much less problems when used to build trains e.g. Japan, NYC's subway, MTR's Urban Vision Lines rolling stock. Maybe also because the body panels for trains are simpler & don't need to go through stamping machines that need to be recalibrated to stamp harder
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What's amazing is that the people in this clip were able to get through the interviews almost without laughing.
The entire Cybertruck thing is so funny at so many levels and speaks volumes about social media age.... Our real life Tony Stark fake genius invents a totally unnecessary car, delays it for years, tripples the costs while worsening traffic safety and everybody is admiring him because is looks like terminator iron-man stealth tank... the entire thing is so solely style driven 🤣
How dare you! Bow b4 the god Musk! 😅 No more subsidies for EV. lithium battery shortages. Musk is a fake and will drag his investors to hell. But...they'll love it. Calling him a genius.
The stainless steel was not the problem. The problem was when they went 48v every part that had anything to do with electricity had to be custom designed and tested out. 1000s of parts... everything available is 12v they need 10000 of 1000s of pieces in 48v every week in order to meet capacity. They are hoping to be at 1000 a week by the beginning of 25'
@marekdg go read the document Elon and Telsa release to the other car manufacturers on the benefits of 48V. I know Ford CEO thanked Elon for sharing the data
Tesla actually makes or contracts someone to make many of those parts you are talking about. They design say the window motor controller or power seat controller.. This just means instead of getting in 48v, they design those parts to accept 48v.
@@skellington2000 higher voltage means lower current which in turn reduces heat produced during transmission so they can reduce the need for thick wiring thereby reducing weight and it also reduces the use of copper so reduced costs.
he's saying that "experts were saying it was impossible" as if he created a flying car than ran on solar power. He created a boxy electric truck that costs 100k
One note. If you have to scrap a gigacasting the entire part is made of the same "stuff" so it's easy to recycle it right away. You don't have to take it back apart and sort out all the different types of metals to recycle it.
Well, gigacasting is probobly a really good idea and profitable when you get it working. But this Cybertuck will newer be a economically win for Tesla. It will for sure cost more than they will ever earn back on sales.
@@MsRs232His comment is not related to the stainless steel exoskeleton. The video mentions different technologies that Tesla introduced. The gigacasting is used for making the front and rear frame of the vehicle. Those parts in other vehicles are made out of 150+ pieces that need welding together.
@zoltanm6445 wait until these things hit the aftermarket...no way are people going to be able to repair panels etc., second hand price will plummet. Not to mention the safety of the vehicles. Crumpling of vehicles in accidents is done intentionally to absorb energy from the impact. Energy not absorbed is transferred, likely to the passengers. Not to mention a few of these things tearing through a family suv or two on the highway and I can't imagine too many people will be enamored with driving on the roads with them
@@c.t6149 LOL! You didn't think about this at all before you said it did you? It's called a commercial drivers license.... google it little fella, come on, we know you can do it!
As a mechanical engineer, I have to say a lot of things about the cyber truck seem odd. Like the design decisions seems like it would make things harder for them, while not really having a practical benefit. But I mean... I guess?
@@variblex Another mechanical engineer here, and its pretty obvious... - Air-flow (thus energy efficiency) and vibrations when driving fast - Lack of absorption of impact energy in the case of an accident for the driver as for others (esp. more deadly to pedestrians than other trucks) - Excessive weight (higher energy consumption) - Poor light reflection behaviour (both in terms of design and road safety, keyword glare, an important issue for serious car manufacturers) - Poor dripping behaviour / water flow in the rain ... and i didn't mention any material/techological choices yet...
@@moru3236 Those are design features which car decided to have. Like being a big truck leads to high weight. What you do is merely describing vehicle for things it was not optimized for.
I wonder how safe this is? If you market hard materials etc, doesn't that mean that the crumble zones are tougher to design? Cars today are designed to break in a predictable way and they need weak points. I would like to see crash test videos.
Check out the crash tests done on the CT! This is the safest automobile ever made - for not just for the occupants but also anyone outside who has the misfortune to get hit by a CT !!!
The problem is people don't earn 50% or so more now. And the interest rates are much higher now, too. This means you'd either have less money for everything else or buy a cheaper car.
@@FlorinArjocuthat's always been the problem right? Can one afford something or not. However, it's not one manufacturer's fault for pricing it's product to market value. Not to mention all the new tech and efforts Tesla implemented in the cybertruck. Whether one likes the design is another topic, but for their dedication to innovation, I think the pricing for cybertruck is well deserved.
@@IronCan88 The market pricing is now stopping people from buying EVs. If they were 10k-20k cheaper, makers would not complain now about their growing stocks.
@@FlorinArjocu cybertruck 's bottleneck is in the production, though. So there is no reason to reduce price at this point. I put in my order for the truck motor early on, so while I also wish for a lower price, I understand market, and as a company you want to get as much profit as you can, so I don't blame Tesla for charging a premium for unicorn car like Cybertruck.there will be no over-inventory issue for cybertruck for a long time.
Interesting how CNBC Produces great investigative journalism not shying away from being skeptic when it is not about one of their advertiser's products!
@@13Voodoobilly69according to Allside, CNBC was rated left leaning close to center in a blind bias survery, editorial review rates them centered close to left leaning, also Media Bias Fact Check rated it left center with mostly factual rating
the tech for this is amazing. 48V, steer by wire, close to bullet proof, if there is a crash - I'd rather be inside that truck... looks expensive UNTIL you start getting something similar cost with Ford, Rivian and I will get way more compared to others
The ramp - I predict it will go great. They have learned from past ramp ups. And they have said this time and again - “the hardest part is making the machine that makes the machine”. So the hardest part was just making the machines that make the Cybertruck. That part is mostly done.
Prototypes are easy, production is hard, and volume production is harder still. They've entered production, but not volume production yet, that is the hardest part.
@@iCozzh I know what it means, it's the same as people using ramp up. It seems anything Elon says everyone is using the same terminology. Are you a Tesla, Elon fan.
Nice to see someone that has the balls to attack this design. Absolutely amazing. Cant wait to drive one. Once they perfect this product they will be able to do anything.
Thank you CNBC for doing a comprehensive piece on the issues of actually building this crazy new-look design of a vehicle. Good context. It is clear there are big challenges, so it will be up to Tesla to demonstrate what sort of a car company they are to make a few, or a lot, of these stainless steel body trucks. Definitely is an interesting truck. And will be interesting to see what this will all be like in production, and how long they hold up, and whether the price can come down over the next few years.
For any company to have the guts to break the mould and do something revolutionary they need a visionary leader who is also a hands-on engineer. And very few companies have been that fortunate
@@billysnextadventure4306 he was born a South African and Canadian, started engineering at a university in Canada, and built a company with a mix of people from all over the world including the USA. That’s the world we now live in and you surround yourself by the best regardless of national origin
@@BryanbkkBack when USA had balls (like in 80's) Musk would have been in jail for a long time now. Imagine If USSR would have referred American as "their agent" like Russian TV did earlier this year on Elon Musk. Or Musk having conversations with Putin himself and spreading Russian propaganda on his platforms. Worshipping Elon Musk as some kind of genius is proof of how USA isn't anything like it used to be.
The only argument id agree with is that successfully ramping all the new technologies simultaneously will be hard but then again that's exactly Tesla's whole existence , that's all it's been doing successfully. Since I can't agree with anything else, I'll just be leaving a like for putting in Sawyer Merritt really really much much actual news and shoving no narrative down our throats
I drive a Honda Element and obviously don't care how a vehicle looks. I only care about reliability and functionality for what the vehicle was built for.So I'm really curious how this will work out for Tesla and what's next and will it change other manufacturers to question what people really want.Most likely i will never get a cyber truck but really want them to succeed.
Mechanicability and fitness for purpose, seems like this never came up. wondering what it weighs and what the payload capacity is. Why four doors if there’s no head room in the back? The bed is what, four feet?
Mass production is very difficult especially with new innovation. Cybertruck with its cold formed stainless exoskeleton, 48v low voltage, 800v high volt system, drive by wire, 4680 tabless DRY CELL battery, smaller/lighter battery vs competitive, etc. Tesla offers the fastest production lines. Dry cell battery allow even less machines as no toxic black slurry/baking and mixing step. Big 3 sales mainly big trucks and suvs vs Tesla mainly sedans and small model Y suv. Cybertruck is a small niche for Tesla where they can test the newest future tech especially batteries. Tesla is an energy company besides motor where car batteries made grid storage batteries competitive. Tesla diversified batteries with 18650, 2170, 4680, and LFP( lithium IRON) Tesla’s production lines as Henry Fords 2.0 version. Tesla designs own software, chips, and hardware. Space X metals for car. SOTA and FOTA OTA with DOJO computer. Huge buildings full of full sell driving servers. Tesla building larger supercharger stations to charge trucks larger battery faster. All the above make the Cybertruck expensive to build. Plus Tesla is a new car company starting from scratch. Made in America. Finally USA is leading vs European auto industry. 1970 oil embargo Japanese fuel sippers vs Detroit muscle cars. History repeats itself but this time EV’s vs gas cars. China is ahead but USA narrowing the gap. Stellantis bought shares Chinese EV company to rebadge EV’s to sell in Europe. China and Europe ahead USA solar, EV’s working on climate change.
A Belgian company called Aperam makes the steel chassis of the Cybertruck. Apparently Tesla couldn't find any American company that could meet Tesla's needs when it comes to rust resistance and strength. :) I knew Aperam was a company that was very skilled in this area but I didn't realise they were this good because it does seem super difficult.
@@orkun171it's a pain in the ass material 100% and it's heavy. I don't understand the self-imposed engineering nightmare like it's some kind of feature people are demanding.
@@johntheux9238it's all dependent on chromium and nickel content. There aren't that many stainless varieties so I don't understand the fuss about it at all. BEV seem to catch fire when wet so why are we so focused on corrosion resistance?
The Cybertruck looks way better in person!! See it in the showroom if you can. They will make many millions of Cybertrucks, and you will see them everywhere!!
Tesla previous claimed not going to 800 volt because of the market wasn't ready for mass production. Meanwhile the Cybertruck also has mass market challanges with steer-by-wire, 48 volt architecture, ethernet-loop and their own battery cells. These are the challenges Elon Musk was talking about, not just it's stainless steel exoskelton.
Thirty years ago I was getting out of a DeLorean at a local car show and a little girl tugged on her dads sleeve and said "That car's from the future".
It’s not hard to manufacture anymore now that they have their newly invented production tools and knowledge in place. Tesla is so ahead of their time. I can’t wait to own a cybertruck!
This one was poorly researched. This video just parrots the common talking points. Actually videos from the launch event show clearly the cybertruck is manufactured as a conventional unibody using basically the same architecture as the structural pack version of Model Y. The stainless panels have only straight press braked lines and they are hung on the conventional unibody.
Yes I'm pretty sure this grade of stainless isn't that tough or novel. But of course Musk never learned the key part of manufacturing cars. Reusability of equipment and sharing common parts.
Tesla's shares many common parts, lots of parts from de model s and y are shared, they share as many parts as they can from other models, but, new products will inevitable create parts that won't be shared, like the cubertruck.
Elon starts off the delivery event with - Experts said making the cybertruck was impossible but here are the deliveries of the first cybertrucks. Then CNBC interviews the same experts. Let’s check back in 2025… Whatever happened to the production ramp of the hummer ev or ford lightning?
This truck is what you get when your company is known for working their engineers 80hrs a week and is still the number one dream job for graduating engineering students. And your other company is number two.
There is a lot in this video about why the stainless steel manufacturing is difficult but nothing about WHY it is worth going down this road in the first place. What is the advantage, real or perceived?
Stainless steel is a great material in terms of strength and corrosion resistance. I'd say the disadvantages are difficulty in forming complex shapes and the cost versus steel or aluminium.
Like many of the comments here, if you Strongly Dislike Elon Musk (ie. CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC CBS, NPR, Washington Post, NYT, etc..) why would you say anything positive...no matter True or Not? No one has a clue if this will sell well or not, but for many, that's not even the point...they dislike Musk and that's all that counts.
@@mboikothe cubertruck got 2.1M reservations before delivery, I guess at most 1.5M will go through the order, afterwards, there are many that want the cybertruck, Tesla fans, truckers that don't care how it looks but need what it can offer and rich people for showing off.
The upside is that the body of the truck is impervious to everyday wear. Door dings, shopping carts, hand tools, car keys, ect, have a negligible effect on it. Even if you do manage to scratch it, it won't rust unlike painted regular steel. A benefit, to Tesla, is that they won't spend any money, time, or space painting it. It is the toughest truck normal people can buy, If you define "normal" as $80k, anyways.
You know what, when I heard his rocket was going to land on the ocean. I thought how crazy can you be - and this was AFTER he led me to believe he can make the impossibles possible.
The problem is they're supposed to be taking human beings to Mars and they can't even get out of low earth orbit. I think there's an element of dillushion about all this.
eh, just wait a few years. they'll build out charging infrastructure and also you'll eventually be able to buy a used one for way less. both problems will be solved by time
that's the point, the cool factor not the partiality of. If you want practicality in a EV, by an brad that's been making car for 100 year and know the ends and outs from generations of experience.
Electric cars are fairly inexpensive. I wouldn't buy one if you don't have a garage or aren't in a position to charge at home. I wake up every morning to a "full tank" so to speak. You only really need charging infrastructure for road trips or if you routinely drive more than 200 miles a day in town.
@@kungfoochicken08 Fairly inexpensive, lol what?. The average c0st of an EV is around 55K. Not to mention the costly repairs, unrecyclable batteries, insane insurance costs and so on.
Okay so crazy thing, I actually talked with someone from the Tesla gigafactory. He's a software engineer. Anyhow, a couple of things to note. According to him, everything is pretty cluttered and disorganized. Because you know, they're having to do some irregular things. It’s also worth noting the weird speed limits on the campus. Like, 24? Why not 25?! And to top it off, he said he wouldn't get a Cybertruck, simply because its not his style. Which says a lot considering I met him through Lyft. And when I dropped him off, I had no idea where to drop him off. Supposedly there's supposed to be a tent where they were supposed to meet, in a parking lot. All that was there was a bus stop from the Soviet Union. Like, I know there's a lot of kooky stuff going on, but you'd think telling a software engineer where to go so he's not wandering like a goober would be solved.
But like, why is that necessary though? It just makes it heavy and, based on basic physics I would assume, it doesn't absorb energy that well. I mean if people wanted a tank I get it, but I can't fathom why. The weight alone seems problematic for an EV.
- Elon Musk introduces the Cybertruck (0:16) - The truck's stainless steel exoskeleton is a manufacturing challenge (1:03) - Design driven by material properties (2:11) - Skepticism over its aggressive design (2:42) - Production delays and challenges (3:58) - Introduction of a unique airbending manufacturing process (7:26) - Tesla's gigacasting technique may be employed in Cybertruck's construction (9:47) - Battery cell production could limit Cybertruck's output (11:44)
I love how everyone goes to the things they can see, but nearly always it’s the things you can’t see that are the differentiators and the hardest problems
@@briankearn6991 there will always be haters, but building a mass market EV, self landing rocket, Cybertruck exoskeleton, Neuralink etc It's VERY impressive
No one said it was impossible. Any company can push out a failed prototype. What people said was impossible as to manufacture a $40K EV truck with 500miles of range. And Tesla fell short in every promise they did...
This is pretty much the same challenges that the great John DeLorean faced with the manufacturing of the DeLorean way back in the 80’s. Just shows how ground breaking that car was back then
Love him or hate him, him and his products, Elon is almost single-handedly forcing the automotive industry to grow in ways it never would have without him. Still unsure I'd ever buy a Tesla, but I'm happy he's in the game and has plenty of people who can enjoy his stuff. I may just be a Mazda/Honda/Toyota lifer, but if my favourite Japanese brands can take a page or three out of the Tesla book, I'll be grateful for it.
But that's actually not a good thing. Automotive industry should downsize, good quality public transports and trains and walkable cities should be the solution.
@@tamasv9825 I don't think one should be confused with the other. A very mature and competitive automotive industry is a good thing; the supply chain in place is a machine in itself and the ever-improving quality, safety and price of our cars are a consequence. That said, government subsidies shouldn't be so heavily invested in the automotive industry (that I agree with) and a practical public transit system shouldn't just be a target; it should be a necessity. Walkable cities should be the way of life and it isn't. But even in those futures, cars will always be around and Elon had helped the automotive industry get to a place it wouldn't be without him.
The cyber truck glass is probably the hardest thing to manufacture It doesnt require painting nor stamping metal like the model y So it should be easier to make
@@sc1338 My understanding is that they have a solution for that - using only folds rather than curves (on most panels, at least), and scoring the folds to make it easier to work with. The hood and frontmost panel do seem to be curved, though.
The biggest issue is going to be making sure the panels align correctly. The way the truck is currently designed, the panels come together at very specific points so they have very little margin for error. This means they have to be manufactured correctly every time or any misalignment is going to be so obvious.
Quite a few people who bought the Cybertruck just bought it so they could use it for target practice. It was so much of a thing, that Tesla had to ask their customers to stop shooting their trucks.
I work for a large construction manufacturer. We’ve launched several new products since Covid. Yes there have been supply chain issues, but business moves on. The cyber truck was delivered without full self driving and still doesn’t have it. In my opinion it wasn’t ready for delivery. Elon/Tesla are going in too many different directions. Too many categories too many industries they look desperate. Failure is eminent .
Keep in mind the prices will drop once the production gets to full ramp. They will only be priced higher to start because of low production and high demand.
Expensive No Crumple Zones, Stainless steel once dented/bent will not ho back to shape and if you try snaps it's a death trap For safety It relies solely on the Air Bags and Seat Belts for Safety again no Crumple Zones (Front Rear or Sides!)
Somebody said that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
Ppl didn’t like when Apple killed the audio port. But the phones are so much better now and all manufacturers followed. Tesla is doing the same thing. It will only make vehicles better for all.
Lots of contractors will love to have a 6 foot locked bed to store their tools and 120 and 240 volt outlets to run their tools. The downside is that you can reach over the side of the bed, and have to access it from the back side. Also, its operating costs are a 1/4 per mile compared to a conventional ICE pickup, and maintenance of EVs is extremely low because they don't have many moving parts that wear out and don't require oil changes. The fact that the body is very difficult to scratch or dent on a worksite is another great benefit. The Cybertruck makes a lot of sense as a long term investment for businesses, although I suspect that many will wait a few years to see if customers report problems with model. For small businesses, the Cybertruck is also a great place to put the advertising for their business, since it catches so much attention, although that would require an expensive wrap. I see a lot more positives than negatives for a contractor, although I think that most contractors will wait for the single motor model which is probably 2 or 3 years into the future, since they don't need the performance or extra cost of the 2 and 3 motor models.
@@amosbatto3051It can be lowered all the way down to 5” of ground clearance. (It has 12” of dynamic suspension travel). Even with the sloped sides at its lowest setting it should still be pretty easy to access the bed from the sides.
@@amosbatto3051my guy putting a jobox or trailer with actual construction materials isn't happening 😂 you've never worked construction before (or maybe union?) and it shows. 🤣
As a degreed mechanical engineer, snd someone who has been in the sheet metal fabrication for the last eleven, let me tell you... There is so much technically wrong with this report. Stainless absolutely can be formed, the material is not especially hard, as many people online are showing its propensity for scratching. Engineering is all about making decisions and finding the best compromise for a required function. If youre sacraficing quality, formability and suitability for its intended purpose, then youve chosen the wrong material. This doesnt strike me as a triumph of engineering and design so much as poor engineering in pursuit of marketing claims.
Say what you will about Elon, but this guy can pump out reusable rockets that no one else has yet to achieve. If anyone is capable of doing this, it would be one of his companies.
Re-usable rockets, will be of any value, when they can confidently put humans on other planets and moon. Un-till then reusability doesnt event make financial sense.
@@Ye-tf9im Wow! didnt know US govt share their expenditure and cost saving with random people on internet. What publicly available is cost of production, cost of launch and cost of payload. Please have a look on them.
The vehicle is so deadly on impact that it cannot be sold in Europe because it doesn't meet European standards. The only reason it passes in the U.S. is because of its relaxed laws.
How much extra does it cost to get a cyber truck that makes it past five minutes without the red screen of death? Also is a little bit of adhesive to hold down the gas pedal extra or do I just hot glue it on myself?
Everyone is stuck on the problems producing the stainless steel body. Totally missing the major new features such as the 48V electrical system and the steering by wire - major ‘re-inventions’ for the automotive industry.
It's not hard to manufacture, it was hard to build tools and machines that could manufacture it. Now that they've built the things they need to bend the stainless steel and assemble they can ramp up production.
Just curious, how much does it cost to repair one of these? How much does it cost to replace the battery? And how much does it cost to insure one of these?
There’s a huge, huge problem with fixing any vehicle with gigacastings. Basically making them disposable. I’m in the industry and a Tesla fan/long time investor.
We as mankind need to keep this Bro's DNA. Maybe in the next 10 years, we can use this DNA to clone another Elon Musk. He's so important to mankind's tech advancement.
This thing is bold and that is GREAT!!! Give it a little time, they will perfect it. There is room for all types of propulsion systems, gas, electric, etc. I haven’t driven one but seen it at Teslas Upland CA Center. It is amazing in person.
It's my belief that Cybertruck is a proving grounds for the next gen robotaxi. This vehicle is super efficient, will be super easy and cheap to manufacture (once supply chains mature and they work out the kinks in their lines), and will last a super long time with the ultra corrosion resistant body and frame. Even Tesla's battery team at Dalhousie University is working on a NCM cell that has an unlimited cycle life.
It’s not super efficient. The epa numbers are very poor. The highest level truck is supposed to do at least 500 miles on a full charge. Testing numbers show under 300 miles. That’s a massive discrepancy. Tesla has always been top notch liars
The stock will probbaly only 40x to 2030 due to the challenges, $10k is a reasonable target once the PE for the cars go down and other rev streams take over.
They are barely making 4 dollars per share which is peanuts compared to the price now. With more factories coming on and over production the prices will have to come down to move volume and lower margins in the future and possible losses. The arabs kept producing more an more oil and I laughed and watched it got to zero and now they have learned. Tesla can be more profitable with less volume and higher margins. The current target is 150 at Bernstein and I have a 100 to 150 target. It fell 75% before and I remember buying some at 102.
it's hard just hard for them to produce, actually, it is impossible for traditional OEM's to produce due to their business model, old mindset company culture, all the middlemen, and just don't have enough smart people to invent stuff. Even if they do, the overpaid bean counters would not allow them for fear of losing their jobs if they try to innovate.
The price is what matters to me. At the revealed $40,000 price I think cybertruck is great. It's an entirely different equation at a base price of $61,000. There is a strong possibility that price will go even higher. I thought the whole point of the cybertruck was to make a cheap electric pickup by saving costs with manufacturing efficiency. Nobody is mentioning anything about it being cheap or even affordable anymore. So all the hype is pointless. It's a showy toy for rich people and that's likely all it will ever be. The exoskeleton idea didn't work out so now those stainless steel panels just add needless weight and manufacturing difficulty. The cybertruck would be better and cheaper if they just made it like their other vehicles but in the shape of a traditional pickup
In the long run, the Cybertruck probably will be cheaper to manufacture than any other pickup on the market, since its design eliminates a lot of manual labor, but its switch to a Gigabit ethernet bus ring connected to controller chips (to eliminate point to point wiring), 48 volt components, 800 volt motors and battery and Tesla's tabless 4680 NCM cells means that it has thousands of new custom parts that Tesla had to special order from suppliers or make in house. Tesla will have a lot of trouble scaling production and will find lots of problematic parts whose design will need to be fixed. It has the most revolutionary tech in the industry, but I would wait 5 years before ordering one, because I expect there to be a lot of problematic parts that need to get fixed in the early production.
@@amosbatto3051the Harvard business review headline will probably be called "engineered into obscurity" about this thing. 😂 Lots of pointless feats overcome, sure. How is 48v better? Why is current CANBUS insufficient throughput? None of the "solutions" engineered into this are problematic. Airplanes have been 24v forever why not go there and use airplane parts/supply?
Stainless steel., just don't get it wet, clean it immediately if it gets dirty, and don't drive it off road and you'll be fine. You could also pay an extra $5,000 for a protective coat that comes standard on every other vehicle sold.
Yeah that TruCoat though!
but it's bullet resistant, duh
@@dinglshingle LOL, no it's not.
It’s that type of stainless steel that stains. I’ve got a carbon steel pan like that.
Conversely stainless steel seems to have much less problems when used to build trains e.g. Japan, NYC's subway, MTR's Urban Vision Lines rolling stock. Maybe also because the body panels for trains are simpler & don't need to go through stamping machines that need to be recalibrated to stamp harder
What's amazing is that the people in this clip were able to get through the interviews almost without laughing.
What’s even more amazing is that Elon knew he would have to recall the vehicle,
That is why he made production amount low.
Lol. Yup
"amazing" has come true. His recent SpaceX presentation (outdoors) to employees was REMARKABLY quiet.
shut up dork
The entire Cybertruck thing is so funny at so many levels and speaks volumes about social media age....
Our real life Tony Stark fake genius invents a totally unnecessary car, delays it for years, tripples the costs while worsening traffic safety and everybody is admiring him because is looks like terminator iron-man stealth tank... the entire thing is so solely style driven 🤣
it doesnt even look good tho its so ugly
Don’t worry, by April 2024 everyone has realized the whole thing was a joke/scam.
@@Rick-C-117 elon is a joke scam and he still have cult following sadly, dude should be in jail for fraud
Proof that Elon isn't Tony Stark. He is Justin Hammer.
Or investment driven. Just like an Edsel or Delorean would be valuable now, based on their rarity and failure.
The cyber truck looks like every child’s first attempt at drawing a car😂
I know! I want one! 😅
It literally is! It was based on a drawing by Musk's son, apparently
I think, it's looks are the only reallx nice anf futuristic qualities of the car.
It's not only hard to build, it's nearly impossible to look at.
How dare you! Bow b4 the god Musk! 😅 No more subsidies for EV. lithium battery shortages. Musk is a fake and will drag his investors to hell. But...they'll love it. Calling him a genius.
One gets eye cancer by looking at it.
@@hg6996 fortunately, I've yet to see one in "the wild". Judging just by the pictures.
Nah the cars alright, but it’s slightly ugly ngl
@@adotintheshark4848my neighbor just got one. The closer you get, the more of a POS it is.
He wants to sell it, but apparently can't.
The stainless steel was not the problem. The problem was when they went 48v every part that had anything to do with electricity had to be custom designed and tested out. 1000s of parts... everything available is 12v they need 10000 of 1000s of pieces in 48v every week in order to meet capacity. They are hoping to be at 1000 a week by the beginning of 25'
@@skellington2000why did they change it in the first place? What should the benefits be?
@marekdg go read the document Elon and Telsa release to the other car manufacturers on the benefits of 48V. I know Ford CEO thanked Elon for sharing the data
Tesla actually makes or contracts someone to make many of those parts you are talking about. They design say the window motor controller or power seat controller.. This just means instead of getting in 48v, they design those parts to accept 48v.
@@skellington2000 higher voltage means lower current which in turn reduces heat produced during transmission so they can reduce the need for thick wiring thereby reducing weight and it also reduces the use of copper so reduced costs.
@@dabears87_76Ford is going for bankruptcy too soon. F150 lightening is garbage.
There is a reason pickup trucks have been designed the same way for over 100 years, They work
Just because they don’t mean to try something new.
he's saying that "experts were saying it was impossible" as if he created a flying car than ran on solar power.
He created a boxy electric truck that costs 100k
It starts at 70k not 100 and that price will likely go down as they increase their manufacturing output
That looks like it was rendered on a PS1.
@@user-RCST🤣
That can't carry anything!
It look like a frig.
One note. If you have to scrap a gigacasting the entire part is made of the same "stuff" so it's easy to recycle it right away. You don't have to take it back apart and sort out all the different types of metals to recycle it.
Titanium IPhones?
Well, gigacasting is probobly a really good idea and profitable when you get it working.
But this Cybertuck will newer be a economically win for Tesla. It will for sure cost more than they will ever earn back on sales.
Casting stainless steel ?
Please explain...
@@MsRs232His comment is not related to the stainless steel exoskeleton. The video mentions different technologies that Tesla introduced. The gigacasting is used for making the front and rear frame of the vehicle. Those parts in other vehicles are made out of 150+ pieces that need welding together.
@zoltanm6445 wait until these things hit the aftermarket...no way are people going to be able to repair panels etc., second hand price will plummet. Not to mention the safety of the vehicles. Crumpling of vehicles in accidents is done intentionally to absorb energy from the impact. Energy not absorbed is transferred, likely to the passengers. Not to mention a few of these things tearing through a family suv or two on the highway and I can't imagine too many people will be enamored with driving on the roads with them
we build stainless steel cars in the Philippines by hand about 50 years ago.
Yo im filipino, can you send a link?
Please tell me they looked better than this atrocity
He is talking about those handbuild owner-type jeeps lol @@whatthefisfilipinx
In the early 70s, I was in Leechburg, PA, home of Allegheny Ludlum Steel. They had two parade cars that had stainless steel bodies.
@@swisstroll3 finally saw 1 live and in person today. Even UGLIER than the pictures. And how do you even see out of the rear window?
Just imagine if this monster hits your regular car at high speed😢
its a deadly vehicle, an indictment on our regulations when they say this abomination of a vehicle is safe to be on roads
There are other biggger and more dangerous vehicles on the road such as bus and trailers. Why blaming this Cybertruk as a dangerous vehicle alone
@@c.t6149Which is why you need a commercial drivers license to drive them.
@@c.t6149 LOL! You didn't think about this at all before you said it did you? It's called a commercial drivers license.... google it little fella, come on, we know you can do it!
No ones buying this thing. Don’t even worry about it
It’s like if a 5yo drew a truck with a distinct lack of design 😂
As a mechanical engineer, I have to say a lot of things about the cyber truck seem odd. Like the design decisions seems like it would make things harder for them, while not really having a practical benefit. But I mean... I guess?
you managed to not mention any of your concerns...
yep they basically only did it bc elons a child and said it "HAS to be this way"
@@variblex Another mechanical engineer here, and its pretty obvious...
- Air-flow (thus energy efficiency) and vibrations when driving fast
- Lack of absorption of impact energy in the case of an accident for the driver as for others (esp. more deadly to pedestrians than other trucks)
- Excessive weight (higher energy consumption)
- Poor light reflection behaviour (both in terms of design and road safety, keyword glare, an important issue for serious car manufacturers)
- Poor dripping behaviour / water flow in the rain
...
and i didn't mention any material/techological choices yet...
@@moru3236 Those are design features which car decided to have. Like being a big truck leads to high weight. What you do is merely describing vehicle for things it was not optimized for.
Increased Costs, decrease Range, still no Self Driving, hard to fix panels, no crumple zones, sides too high to sideload
Razor-sharp edges that'll end up costing Tesla millions for the pedestrians who inevitably get maimed...
Who cares whether or not it can “self-drive”. The last thing we need are idiots trusting a computer to hit people
I wonder how safe this is? If you market hard materials etc, doesn't that mean that the crumble zones are tougher to design? Cars today are designed to break in a predictable way and they need weak points. I would like to see crash test videos.
It's still only 1.8mm thick so it can bend. They can adjust the way it will buckle by adjusting where they put stiffeners.
Check out the crash tests done on the CT! This is the safest automobile ever made - for not just for the occupants but also anyone outside who has the misfortune to get hit by a CT !!!
Tesla routinely breaks safety tests with how safe their cars are. I'm sure they've figured this one out.
@tapio 🤡…. Tesla make the worlds safest vehicles
Safe for whom? For the Cybertruck occupants, yes. For everyone and everything else, its a deadly machine.
Let’s be fair I bought a Ford F150 for 38k in 2018 today my 2023 F150 was 72K. CNBC can we agree EVERYTHING is much MORE expensive than 2019??😂
The problem is people don't earn 50% or so more now. And the interest rates are much higher now, too. This means you'd either have less money for everything else or buy a cheaper car.
@@FlorinArjocuthat's always been the problem right? Can one afford something or not. However, it's not one manufacturer's fault for pricing it's product to market value. Not to mention all the new tech and efforts Tesla implemented in the cybertruck. Whether one likes the design is another topic, but for their dedication to innovation, I think the pricing for cybertruck is well deserved.
@@IronCan88 The market pricing is now stopping people from buying EVs. If they were 10k-20k cheaper, makers would not complain now about their growing stocks.
@@FlorinArjocu cybertruck 's bottleneck is in the production, though. So there is no reason to reduce price at this point. I put in my order for the truck motor early on, so while I also wish for a lower price, I understand market, and as a company you want to get as much profit as you can, so I don't blame Tesla for charging a premium for unicorn car like Cybertruck.there will be no over-inventory issue for cybertruck for a long time.
@@IronCan88 I was not talking about CT, but almost all the others. CT is a different animal, bring what it is, yhose who want it will buy it anyways.
Interesting how CNBC Produces great investigative journalism not shying away from being skeptic when it is not about one of their advertiser's products!
Like always when they can be negative about what Tesla is doing.
They will spend millions if they think it hurts the right.
@@13Voodoobilly69according to Allside, CNBC was rated left leaning close to center in a blind bias survery, editorial review rates them centered close to left leaning, also Media Bias Fact Check rated it left center with mostly factual rating
@@Stampyboyz Allside and Media Bias are indirectly funded by the DNC 🤷🏻♂️
@@Stampyboyz Which does not necessarily mean that one cannot be corrupt?
DeLorean was not 'made of' stainless steel: It used thin stainless panels glued on to the fiberglass body.
Thats way better!
@@brunoheggli2888that's way not bullet proof
@@aberbaneither is this.
Did you not see it getting shot?
@@MS-hb9gn My comment refers to the 80's DeLorean.
the tech for this is amazing. 48V, steer by wire, close to bullet proof, if there is a crash - I'd rather be inside that truck... looks expensive UNTIL you start getting something similar cost with Ford, Rivian and I will get way more compared to others
Kind of makes me appreciate it more, just knowing how hard to produce and develop it.
that is some very expensive trash can.
@@the0ne809 a trash can that you cannot afford
@@dzgeek1078 I'd rather spend my money in a real truck. I do not have a midlife crisis like many of you.
@@the0ne809 but dude, it's the car of the future
@@LuisSierra42the future just like the hyperloop? Lol
NBC did a reasonable job in this report. You knew it wasn't going to be pro Tesla. It wasn't a hit piece against Tesla either. Surprised!
So Tesla learned air bending to protect themselves against the fire nation 😮
The ramp - I predict it will go great. They have learned from past ramp ups. And they have said this time and again - “the hardest part is making the machine that makes the machine”. So the hardest part was just making the machines that make the Cybertruck. That part is mostly done.
It will ramp very slowly in the first year and then accelerate exponentially is my prediction. I predict a 300k annual run rate in 2 years time.
Prototypes are easy, production is hard, and volume production is harder still. They've entered production, but not volume production yet, that is the hardest part.
@@iCozzh why use the word, exponentially. its like Elon fans use these stupid words all the time to copy him
@@Supraboyes because exponential means starts very slow and rapidly accelerating..
@@iCozzh I know what it means, it's the same as people using ramp up. It seems anything Elon says everyone is using the same terminology. Are you a Tesla, Elon fan.
Nice to see someone that has the balls to attack this design. Absolutely amazing. Cant wait to drive one. Once they perfect this product they will be able to do anything.
They better, seeing how expensive they will be. I would expect mine to do my washing and cooking, for that price.
Found the simp
@@bblwarrantydepartment981 Found the narcissist.
@@martinc.720 The F150 Raptor R sells for $109,000, 13K more than the top tier CT. And still doesn’t make you breakfast or iron your shirts.
OR... They could go bankrupt trying
Thank you CNBC for doing a comprehensive piece on the issues of actually building this crazy new-look design of a vehicle. Good context. It is clear there are big challenges, so it will be up to Tesla to demonstrate what sort of a car company they are to make a few, or a lot, of these stainless steel body trucks. Definitely is an interesting truck. And will be interesting to see what this will all be like in production, and how long they hold up, and whether the price can come down over the next few years.
I agree that it will be interesting to see if, despite economies of scale, Cybertruck prices will remain the same due to high demand.
Maybe in the States because by the looks of it in current configuration/shape it is not legal in Europe
Jeez, they got so many things out of place their accuracy is off the scales 🤣
Tesla is not just a car company 😊
@@karlmckinnell2635 What else do they build/sell ??
For any company to have the guts to break the mould and do something revolutionary they need a visionary leader who is also a hands-on engineer. And very few companies have been that fortunate
The final thickness of the steel is 1.8 mm so not 3 mm as was originally stated.
If it was 3 mm then it would have zero crumple zones and be too unsafe even for US roads.
Pretty sure that’s NOT the only lie told when hyping this monstrosity
love the t shirt in reference to the window accident last time lmao.
Now we need a feature film with the Cyberttuck
Terminator 5? 🤣
Cybertruck will be in plenty of movies and videos.
For sure. Rap videos up first. This will be a big time flex vehicle in the begining.@@davidbeppler3032
Back to the future 4
A remake of Damnation Alley
tesla has this. if any company could do this, its tesla. they have the brains and the guts to make it happen.
🇺🇸 is back baby.
A 🇿🇦 did this not an 🇺🇸 😂
@@ytzpilotElon Musk may not be from America but currently he is American and he runs his businesses mainly in American.
@@billysnextadventure4306 he was born a South African and Canadian, started engineering at a university in Canada, and built a company with a mix of people from all over the world including the USA. That’s the world we now live in and you surround yourself by the best regardless of national origin
@@BryanbkkBack when USA had balls (like in 80's) Musk would have been in jail for a long time now. Imagine If USSR would have referred American as "their agent" like Russian TV did earlier this year on Elon Musk. Or Musk having conversations with Putin himself and spreading Russian propaganda on his platforms. Worshipping Elon Musk as some kind of genius is proof of how USA isn't anything like it used to be.
The only argument id agree with is that successfully ramping all the new technologies simultaneously will be hard but then again that's exactly Tesla's whole existence , that's all it's been doing successfully. Since I can't agree with anything else, I'll just be leaving a like for putting in Sawyer Merritt really really much much actual news and shoving no narrative down our throats
I just love they had the balls to do it.. I LOVE the upgraded stainless steel technology aspect. Its looks sharp..
unnecessarily dangerous
I drive a Honda Element and obviously don't care how a vehicle looks. I only care about reliability and functionality for what the vehicle was built for.So I'm really curious how this will work out for Tesla and what's next and will it change other manufacturers to question what people really want.Most likely i will never get a cyber truck but really want them to succeed.
Mechanicability and fitness for purpose, seems like this never came up. wondering what it weighs and what the payload capacity is. Why four doors if there’s no head room in the back? The bed is what, four feet?
Finally, a fair assessment of the cyber truck from a major media outlet
You think?
@@tvm73827 better than anyone else that’s for sure.
Thank you for going deep into technical details that have not been discussed in other - mainly -videos.
Mass production is very difficult especially with new innovation. Cybertruck with its cold formed stainless exoskeleton, 48v low voltage, 800v high volt system, drive by wire, 4680 tabless DRY CELL battery, smaller/lighter battery vs competitive, etc. Tesla offers the fastest production lines. Dry cell battery allow even less machines as no toxic black slurry/baking and mixing step. Big 3 sales mainly big trucks and suvs vs Tesla mainly sedans and small model Y suv. Cybertruck is a small niche for Tesla where they can test the newest future tech especially batteries. Tesla is an energy company besides motor where car batteries made grid storage batteries competitive. Tesla diversified batteries with 18650, 2170, 4680, and LFP( lithium IRON) Tesla’s production lines as Henry Fords 2.0 version. Tesla designs own software, chips, and hardware. Space X metals for car. SOTA and FOTA OTA with DOJO computer. Huge buildings full of full sell driving servers. Tesla building larger supercharger stations to charge trucks larger battery faster. All the above make the Cybertruck expensive to build. Plus Tesla is a new car company starting from scratch. Made in America. Finally USA is leading vs European auto industry. 1970 oil embargo Japanese fuel sippers vs Detroit muscle cars. History repeats itself but this time EV’s vs gas cars. China is ahead but USA narrowing the gap. Stellantis bought shares Chinese EV company to rebadge EV’s to sell in Europe. China and Europe ahead USA solar, EV’s working on climate change.
Elon bullied as kid now bullied by naysayers. Glad Space X, Tesla energy, Tesla Motors, Starlink, Borimg company and neurolink are USA companies.
I love that TESLA doesn't just accept "Things are they way they are and thus must stay that way, we've always done it that way."
Legacy OEMs are scared Stless of Tesla. First theylugh at you,then they Sht their pants!,orlie likeGMs Mary Barra.
lol bootlicker
@@kevinw7319 that's why their semi has so much trouble, they pretended that the designs didn't end up that way for a reason.
A Belgian company called Aperam makes the steel chassis of the Cybertruck. Apparently Tesla couldn't find any American company that could meet Tesla's needs when it comes to rust resistance and strength. :) I knew Aperam was a company that was very skilled in this area but I didn't realise they were this good because it does seem super difficult.
Stainless mills cannot produce different qualities with persistent quantities.Also quality control is very hard in stainless steel
Not all stainless steel alloys are really stainless. Some are just rust resistant.
@@orkun171it's a pain in the ass material 100% and it's heavy. I don't understand the self-imposed engineering nightmare like it's some kind of feature people are demanding.
@@johntheux9238it's all dependent on chromium and nickel content. There aren't that many stainless varieties so I don't understand the fuss about it at all. BEV seem to catch fire when wet so why are we so focused on corrosion resistance?
@@scottleggejr there are a lot of minerals in a steel alloy that needs to be fine tuned and produced cheaply.Also nobody should die or lose a limb
I’m pretty sure Airbending already existed on Nickelodeon, sir
The Cybertruck looks way better in person!! See it in the showroom if you can. They will make many millions of Cybertrucks, and you will see them everywhere!!
Tesla previous claimed not going to 800 volt because of the market wasn't ready for mass production. Meanwhile the Cybertruck also has mass market challanges with steer-by-wire, 48 volt architecture, ethernet-loop and their own battery cells. These are the challenges Elon Musk was talking about, not just it's stainless steel exoskelton.
Thirty years ago I was getting out of a DeLorean at a local car show and a little girl tugged on her dads sleeve and said "That car's from the future".
It’s not hard to manufacture anymore now that they have their newly invented production tools and knowledge in place. Tesla is so ahead of their time. I can’t wait to own a cybertruck!
This one was poorly researched. This video just parrots the common talking points.
Actually videos from the launch event show clearly the cybertruck is manufactured as a conventional unibody using basically the same architecture as the structural pack version of Model Y.
The stainless panels have only straight press braked lines and they are hung on the conventional unibody.
Expect nothing less from CNBS and their anti EV agenda.
Partly true, but the inner door structure for example is gone apparently, not needed cos of the steel.
Exactly.
Yes I'm pretty sure this grade of stainless isn't that tough or novel. But of course Musk never learned the key part of manufacturing cars. Reusability of equipment and sharing common parts.
Tesla's shares many common parts, lots of parts from de model s and y are shared, they share as many parts as they can from other models, but, new products will inevitable create parts that won't be shared, like the cubertruck.
Someone in my city of Bountiful, UT has a cyber truck. Fun to see it driving it around ☺.
You mean it hasn't suffered critical system failures due to it's lousy design and poor manufacturing like all the rest have already?
Elon starts off the delivery event with - Experts said making the cybertruck was impossible but here are the deliveries of the first cybertrucks. Then CNBC interviews the same experts. Let’s check back in 2025… Whatever happened to the production ramp of the hummer ev or ford lightning?
It appears that a production ramp was never planned for the Hummer. The Lightning has reached volume production I think, 50k or so per year.
An unbiased video on Tesla? I'm shocked
This truck is what you get when your company is known for working their engineers 80hrs a week and is still the number one dream job for graduating engineering students. And your other company is number two.
There is a lot in this video about why the stainless steel manufacturing is difficult but nothing about WHY it is worth going down this road in the first place. What is the advantage, real or perceived?
Stainless steel is a great material in terms of strength and corrosion resistance. I'd say the disadvantages are difficulty in forming complex shapes and the cost versus steel or aluminium.
Like many of the comments here, if you Strongly Dislike Elon Musk (ie. CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC CBS, NPR, Washington Post, NYT, etc..) why would you say anything positive...no matter True or Not? No one has a clue if this will sell well or not, but for many, that's not even the point...they dislike Musk and that's all that counts.
@@stephenwabaxter But are strength and corrosion problems with traditional materials? I've never heard of those being issues.
@@mboikothe cubertruck got 2.1M reservations before delivery, I guess at most 1.5M will go through the order, afterwards, there are many that want the cybertruck, Tesla fans, truckers that don't care how it looks but need what it can offer and rich people for showing off.
The upside is that the body of the truck is impervious to everyday wear. Door dings, shopping carts, hand tools, car keys, ect, have a negligible effect on it. Even if you do manage to scratch it, it won't rust unlike painted regular steel. A benefit, to Tesla, is that they won't spend any money, time, or space painting it. It is the toughest truck normal people can buy, If you define "normal" as $80k, anyways.
You know what, when I heard his rocket was going to land on the ocean. I thought how crazy can you be - and this was AFTER he led me to believe he can make the impossibles possible.
The problem is they're supposed to be taking human beings to Mars and they can't even get out of low earth orbit. I think there's an element of dillushion about all this.
I could never afford one of these, and there's no charging infrastructure within 20 miles of me...but I'd love to have one. I think it looks neat.
eh, just wait a few years. they'll build out charging infrastructure and also you'll eventually be able to buy a used one for way less. both problems will be solved by time
You'll be able to get one with a dud battery in a few years time for the scrap price.
that's the point, the cool factor not the partiality of. If you want practicality in a EV, by an brad that's been making car for 100 year and know the ends and outs from generations of experience.
Electric cars are fairly inexpensive. I wouldn't buy one if you don't have a garage or aren't in a position to charge at home. I wake up every morning to a "full tank" so to speak. You only really need charging infrastructure for road trips or if you routinely drive more than 200 miles a day in town.
@@kungfoochicken08 Fairly inexpensive, lol what?. The average c0st of an EV is around 55K. Not to mention the costly repairs, unrecyclable batteries, insane insurance costs and so on.
Okay so crazy thing, I actually talked with someone from the Tesla gigafactory. He's a software engineer. Anyhow, a couple of things to note. According to him, everything is pretty cluttered and disorganized. Because you know, they're having to do some irregular things. It’s also worth noting the weird speed limits on the campus. Like, 24? Why not 25?! And to top it off, he said he wouldn't get a Cybertruck, simply because its not his style. Which says a lot considering I met him through Lyft. And when I dropped him off, I had no idea where to drop him off. Supposedly there's supposed to be a tent where they were supposed to meet, in a parking lot. All that was there was a bus stop from the Soviet Union. Like, I know there's a lot of kooky stuff going on, but you'd think telling a software engineer where to go so he's not wandering like a goober would be solved.
It's interesting watching Elon perfect this fraud in real time...
WOW! CNBS finally don't sound biased over Tesla.
The Cybertruck looks better than any other pickup truck to me, all the others look boring
"Why the Tesla Cybertruck would be so hard for our advertisers to manufacture"
The fact that its small arms bulletproof is enough for many people to buy
I'm going to buy one just so I can fly a Confederate flag through Detroit.
Yeah I prefer to live in country where bullet proof kids backpacks aren't necessary.
But like, why is that necessary though? It just makes it heavy and, based on basic physics I would assume, it doesn't absorb energy that well. I mean if people wanted a tank I get it, but I can't fathom why. The weight alone seems problematic for an EV.
It says a lot about America.
That would be very useful in certain areas of the city.
Its essentially a suburban tank. Its worrying that people think such a thing is necessary in their lives.
- Elon Musk introduces the Cybertruck (0:16)
- The truck's stainless steel exoskeleton is a manufacturing challenge (1:03)
- Design driven by material properties (2:11)
- Skepticism over its aggressive design (2:42)
- Production delays and challenges (3:58)
- Introduction of a unique airbending manufacturing process (7:26)
- Tesla's gigacasting technique may be employed in Cybertruck's construction (9:47)
- Battery cell production could limit Cybertruck's output (11:44)
I love how everyone goes to the things they can see, but nearly always it’s the things you can’t see that are the differentiators and the hardest problems
Elon Musk is addicted to doing what others tell him is impossible
Hyperloop was an amazing accomplishment.
@@briankearn6991sometimes he fails. Often he doesnt.
@@briankearn6991 there will always be haters, but building a mass market EV, self landing rocket, Cybertruck exoskeleton, Neuralink etc
It's VERY impressive
No one said it was impossible. Any company can push out a failed prototype.
What people said was impossible as to manufacture a $40K EV truck with 500miles of range.
And Tesla fell short in every promise they did...
Was he in charge of hyperloop? There is your answer. @@briankearn6991
innovation = making things more difficult to manufacture
Totally pointless vehicle
I appreciate and support innovation.
There’s no comfort in the development zone and there’s no development in the comfort zone.
thank you finally a video with real experts explaining the process , not some guy bending aluminum to wrap a window frame.
This is pretty much the same challenges that the great John DeLorean faced with the manufacturing of the DeLorean way back in the 80’s. Just shows how ground breaking that car was back then
Love him or hate him, him and his products, Elon is almost single-handedly forcing the automotive industry to grow in ways it never would have without him. Still unsure I'd ever buy a Tesla, but I'm happy he's in the game and has plenty of people who can enjoy his stuff. I may just be a Mazda/Honda/Toyota lifer, but if my favourite Japanese brands can take a page or three out of the Tesla book, I'll be grateful for it.
But that's actually not a good thing. Automotive industry should downsize, good quality public transports and trains and walkable cities should be the solution.
@@tamasv9825 I don't think one should be confused with the other. A very mature and competitive automotive industry is a good thing; the supply chain in place is a machine in itself and the ever-improving quality, safety and price of our cars are a consequence.
That said, government subsidies shouldn't be so heavily invested in the automotive industry (that I agree with) and a practical public transit system shouldn't just be a target; it should be a necessity. Walkable cities should be the way of life and it isn't.
But even in those futures, cars will always be around and Elon had helped the automotive industry get to a place it wouldn't be without him.
The cyber truck glass is probably the hardest thing to manufacture
It doesnt require painting nor stamping metal like the model y
So it should be easier to make
Actually it does have stamped parts. Stainless is has to stamp as well. Especially because the panels have to look perfect without paint.
@@sc1338 My understanding is that they have a solution for that - using only folds rather than curves (on most panels, at least), and scoring the folds to make it easier to work with. The hood and frontmost panel do seem to be curved, though.
Model Y is a small budget car for people who cant afford a model X.
Same goes for 3 and S.
Cybertruck tho is on another level.
The biggest issue is going to be making sure the panels align correctly. The way the truck is currently designed, the panels come together at very specific points so they have very little margin for error. This means they have to be manufactured correctly every time or any misalignment is going to be so obvious.
Have you even _watched_ the video before commenting?
Quite a few people who bought the Cybertruck just bought it so they could use it for target practice.
It was so much of a thing, that Tesla had to ask their customers to stop shooting their trucks.
I work for a large construction manufacturer. We’ve launched several new products since Covid. Yes there have been supply chain issues, but business moves on.
The cyber truck was delivered without full self driving and still doesn’t have it. In my opinion it wasn’t ready for delivery. Elon/Tesla are going in too many different directions. Too many categories too many industries they look desperate.
Failure is eminent .
Can’t wait! Pre-ordered mine the night of the unveiling.
Do you think it's easy to create a design hybird of a Delorian and Pontiac Aztec?
Hy-bird
The Cybertruck technology is as far ahead of the competition as are the SpaceX rockets
More like 50's soviet era behind
Cybertruck is ugly and dangerous, literally illegal in Europe
so basically the competitors are saying "we don't know how to do it, so it is not possible"
Easily the coolest thing on the road right now! And the fact that they may not produce more makes me more excited to get one for memorabilia.
This is the coolest truck ever made ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@elonmuskceospaceX New Zealand, the best country in the world 🌎
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Keep in mind the prices will drop once the production gets to full ramp. They will only be priced higher to start because of low production and high demand.
demand? Not at that price.
It's indeed amazing that they got it out of factory, time will tell how it would do and especially how it would deal with repairs and overall costs.
Expensive No Crumple Zones, Stainless steel once dented/bent will not ho back to shape and if you try snaps it's a death trap
For safety It relies solely on the Air Bags and Seat Belts for Safety again no Crumple Zones (Front Rear or Sides!)
Somebody said that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
Ppl didn’t like when Apple killed the audio port. But the phones are so much better now and all manufacturers followed. Tesla is doing the same thing. It will only make vehicles better for all.
With adjusted inflation i think the price is as expected.
Not inflation. Musk lowballed originally cost . Manufacturing cost is the reason .
Can't wait to get my cybertruck!
Incredible engineering and an impractical product (from a pickup truck perspective)
Absolutely ..you wont see these things on a work site..and 1/3 of owners will never put anything on the bed except a case of Bud.
Lots of contractors will love to have a 6 foot locked bed to store their tools and 120 and 240 volt outlets to run their tools. The downside is that you can reach over the side of the bed, and have to access it from the back side. Also, its operating costs are a 1/4 per mile compared to a conventional ICE pickup, and maintenance of EVs is extremely low because they don't have many moving parts that wear out and don't require oil changes. The fact that the body is very difficult to scratch or dent on a worksite is another great benefit. The Cybertruck makes a lot of sense as a long term investment for businesses, although I suspect that many will wait a few years to see if customers report problems with model.
For small businesses, the Cybertruck is also a great place to put the advertising for their business, since it catches so much attention, although that would require an expensive wrap. I see a lot more positives than negatives for a contractor, although I think that most contractors will wait for the single motor model which is probably 2 or 3 years into the future, since they don't need the performance or extra cost of the 2 and 3 motor models.
@@amosbatto3051It can be lowered all the way down to 5” of ground clearance. (It has 12” of dynamic suspension travel). Even with the sloped sides at its lowest setting it should still be pretty easy to access the bed from the sides.
i think i just keep for the old family work truck, its older then me and in better shape then me.
@@amosbatto3051my guy putting a jobox or trailer with actual construction materials isn't happening 😂 you've never worked construction before (or maybe union?) and it shows. 🤣
This shouldn't even be legal to sell.
As a degreed mechanical engineer, snd someone who has been in the sheet metal fabrication for the last eleven, let me tell you...
There is so much technically wrong with this report. Stainless absolutely can be formed, the material is not especially hard, as many people online are showing its propensity for scratching.
Engineering is all about making decisions and finding the best compromise for a required function. If youre sacraficing quality, formability and suitability for its intended purpose, then youve chosen the wrong material.
This doesnt strike me as a triumph of engineering and design so much as poor engineering in pursuit of marketing claims.
Say what you will about Elon, but this guy can pump out reusable rockets that no one else has yet to achieve. If anyone is capable of doing this, it would be one of his companies.
Re-usable rockets, will be of any value, when they can confidently put humans on other planets and moon. Un-till then reusability doesnt event make financial sense.
@@dashmeetsingh9679what are you talking about? 🤣🤣 do you know how much the U.S. government has saved on reusable rockets than none reusable ones? 😂
@@Ye-tf9im Wow! didnt know US govt share their expenditure and cost saving with random people on internet.
What publicly available is cost of production, cost of launch and cost of payload.
Please have a look on them.
@dashmeetsingh9679 you don't need to send humans to watch financial sense to this tech, indeed to send humans is the tiniest part of space business
@@dashmeetsingh9679you are delusional😂
Never bet against Musk
Be prepared to lose.
all I can say is God bless these guys for trying and pushing the boundaries of what's possible
The vehicle is so deadly on impact that it cannot be sold in Europe because it doesn't meet European standards. The only reason it passes in the U.S. is because of its relaxed laws.
How much extra does it cost to get a cyber truck that makes it past five minutes without the red screen of death? Also is a little bit of adhesive to hold down the gas pedal extra or do I just hot glue it on myself?
Everyone is stuck on the problems producing the stainless steel body.
Totally missing the major new features such as the 48V electrical system and the steering by wire - major ‘re-inventions’ for the automotive industry.
It's not hard to manufacture, it was hard to build tools and machines that could manufacture it. Now that they've built the things they need to bend the stainless steel and assemble they can ramp up production.
Just curious, how much does it cost to repair one of these? How much does it cost to replace the battery? And how much does it cost to insure one of these?
It’s for rich people
There’s a huge, huge problem with fixing any vehicle with gigacastings. Basically making them disposable.
I’m in the industry and a Tesla fan/long time investor.
We as mankind need to keep this Bro's DNA. Maybe in the next 10 years, we can use this DNA to clone another Elon Musk. He's so important to mankind's tech advancement.
This thing is bold and that is GREAT!!! Give it a little time, they will perfect it. There is room for all types of propulsion systems, gas, electric, etc. I haven’t driven one but seen it at Teslas Upland CA Center. It is amazing in person.
Making a steel brick, and then making it crush on purpose to meet "safety" standards, seems it may have been a huge challenge.
It's my belief that Cybertruck is a proving grounds for the next gen robotaxi. This vehicle is super efficient, will be super easy and cheap to manufacture (once supply chains mature and they work out the kinks in their lines), and will last a super long time with the ultra corrosion resistant body and frame. Even Tesla's battery team at Dalhousie University is working on a NCM cell that has an unlimited cycle life.
Impressive insight you have on these things
It’s not super efficient. The epa numbers are very poor. The highest level truck is supposed to do at least 500 miles on a full charge. Testing numbers show under 300 miles. That’s a massive discrepancy. Tesla has always been top notch liars
The stock will probbaly only 40x to 2030 due to the challenges, $10k is a reasonable target once the PE for the cars go down and other rev streams take over.
what are you smoking? 40x by 2030 is the most unresonable target I have ever seen
@@andreiioneanu3751 agreed, double that, at least!
Its inline with ARK Invests analysts but they are more bullish though, look it up yourself, I aint your daddy. @@andreiioneanu3751
They are barely making 4 dollars per share which is peanuts compared to the price now. With more factories coming on and over production the prices will have to come down to move volume and lower margins in the future and possible losses. The arabs kept producing more an more oil and I laughed and watched it got to zero and now they have learned. Tesla can be more profitable with less volume and higher margins. The current target is 150 at Bernstein and I have a 100 to 150 target. It fell 75% before and I remember buying some at 102.
This is the most balanced Tesla report I’ve seen from CNBC
I wonder what happened in 2020-2021 that could have contributed to the delay of the truck! Surely nothing major right?
it's hard just hard for them to produce, actually, it is impossible for traditional OEM's to produce due to their business model, old mindset company culture, all the middlemen, and just don't have enough smart people to invent stuff. Even if they do, the overpaid bean counters would not allow them for fear of losing their jobs if they try to innovate.
The price is what matters to me. At the revealed $40,000 price I think cybertruck is great. It's an entirely different equation at a base price of $61,000. There is a strong possibility that price will go even higher. I thought the whole point of the cybertruck was to make a cheap electric pickup by saving costs with manufacturing efficiency. Nobody is mentioning anything about it being cheap or even affordable anymore. So all the hype is pointless. It's a showy toy for rich people and that's likely all it will ever be. The exoskeleton idea didn't work out so now those stainless steel panels just add needless weight and manufacturing difficulty. The cybertruck would be better and cheaper if they just made it like their other vehicles but in the shape of a traditional pickup
In the long run, the Cybertruck probably will be cheaper to manufacture than any other pickup on the market, since its design eliminates a lot of manual labor, but its switch to a Gigabit ethernet bus ring connected to controller chips (to eliminate point to point wiring), 48 volt components, 800 volt motors and battery and Tesla's tabless 4680 NCM cells means that it has thousands of new custom parts that Tesla had to special order from suppliers or make in house. Tesla will have a lot of trouble scaling production and will find lots of problematic parts whose design will need to be fixed. It has the most revolutionary tech in the industry, but I would wait 5 years before ordering one, because I expect there to be a lot of problematic parts that need to get fixed in the early production.
@@amosbatto3051the Harvard business review headline will probably be called "engineered into obscurity" about this thing. 😂 Lots of pointless feats overcome, sure. How is 48v better? Why is current CANBUS insufficient throughput? None of the "solutions" engineered into this are problematic. Airplanes have been 24v forever why not go there and use airplane parts/supply?
Saw someone driving one last week on I-280. looks kinda funky but unique at the same time!