I feel bad for you. This poketubers gave some horrible misinformation just to spit it with babbling nonsense talk. Iron Jugulis is still good on UU. I know some mons who can be the most disappointing mon of the franchise than Jugulis.
Iron Jugulis IMO is the biggest offender of "future paradox pokemon that doesn't change much visually". Even worse because it's been stated that Hydreigon was originally a design for a tank-themed dragon; why they didn't just choose to go with the most obvious idea they had already came up with years ago is beyond me
@@virtualcolt I mean, TBF, ALL the Future Paradoxes are smaller (and all the past ones are bigger), it just sticks out more with Jugulis, both because of how intimidating Hydreigon is supposed to be and how underwhelming it ended up functionally and mechanically Edit: Fixed a Typo
I think the idea of Iron Jugulis’ flying type was to retain its ground immunity. At the cost of 2 more weaknesses and It’s primary ability being absolutely useless…
That's literally every future form, most Paradox forms kinda just outright suck concept- and/or design-wise with a few exceptions. Past Salamence is the pinnacle of missed opportunity, kinda just outright ignores previous dex entries.
I am firmly convinced at this point that "Iron Neck" would have been a superior name for Paradox Hydreigon, because atleast that would have been funny. But instead we have this "thing" that has to wear shoes to survive.
I'd go for Iron Triplet, though I would've preferred if Future Paradox Pokemon had some more complexity to their names other than slap Iron in front of it.
In the Italian traslation of the game Iron Jugulus it's actualy called Iron Neck (Collo Ferro). However I personaly like the english name much better, Collo Ferro it dosen't sound intimidateing at all.
Fun fact: Hydreigon was originally based on a tank and even though that part of the design was scrapped, you can still see some aspects of it remaining in the final design. Knowing all of that, they still chose to make Iron Jugulis the most boring out of all paradox mons, because us Hydreigon fans can't get nice things
If Jimothy had a gun with 2 bullets, and the option of choosing between shooting 2 historically horrible people and Iron Jugulis, he would shoot Iron Jugulis 3x, don’t even ask me how he got the 3rd bullet
@@BillySrMick Nope. It’s weird that they just forgot one, but it makes the Turo battle easier at least since he’s only got 5 on his team. It was mentioned in the leaks prior to release that there’d be a Hydreigon form, but it’s not in the game so I guess they just decided against it, or maybe want to make it DLC? Either way, kind of a bummer because I’m sure it would’ve been cool, since there’s so much you can do with a futuristic Hydra Cannon pokemon.
another thing, hydreigon is really popular in vgc rn. it usually runs tera steel, poison or fire to get rid of its fairy weakness with scope lens+focus energy to ignore the draco meteor sp atk drops. really fun to play tbh, and I haven't seen a single jug**s on team preview the entire season
@@sweetsweetalib4857 yeah :/ I wish they made Jugulis a bulky special wall with access to more status moves, would at least make it more unique than just being a weaker hydregion with less coverage.
The real kicker with Iron Jugulis is that they refused to give it any good setup moves. No Nasty Plot, no Agility, no Calm Mind, no Dragon Dance. You're forced to use shit like Work Up, Focus Energy, and Charge Beam. To fix Iron Jugulis, I think you take 10 or 20 points out of Attack and put it into Sp. Atk or Speed, and then give it all of those set up moves
I wish they did that with base Hydreigon, if it had something like 90 atk and 105 spe and 133 spe atk it would have been OU, being the only special based pseudo and outspeeding Garchomp would be so great
An ideal future Hydreigon would have utilized the tank aesthetic that was scraped from its original concept. Make it a robotic Hydreigon on tank treads with a Dark/Steel typing. And just for fun, a prehistoric Hydreigon can be based more on the hydra or Yamato no Orochi and make it more snake-like with eight heads. It would be Dark/Poison.
That’s actually genius, I never even considered Orochi as a basis for a past variant, just a tank for the future. That’s actually made me think of basing the past variant on the Hydra or Medusa, Poison/Dragon for the former, Dark/Rock for the latter. The Medusa form may be difficult to make viable from typing alone, but perhaps with good speed it would work
I feel making Jugulis more like a jet pack would have fit better; make the legs jets like Miraidons legs, and make its 2 hands heads into blasters instead
They should’ve made it a Dragon Dance Physical attacker. Honestly I wish the future forms weren’t all just robots and they actually put thought into how these Pokémon might evolve in the future based on natural selection of specific traits. Something like Pokémon Insurgence’s Mega Hydreigon which is quadrupedal and grounded, and has 5 heads would’ve been an amazing future form.
I AGREE. The stats should have been the opposite of Flutter Mane. If you are gonna call it Iron Jugulis, then show off how it goes for the jugulis when it attacks.
I would like to add a bit. Hydreigon and its line of evolution is actually pretty fun and interesting to use. I had the pleasure to level up a Deino from Level 1, all the way to its final form. And even though I didn’t care much for the Deino line before then, it made me realize why some people like Hydreigon. Leveling it up as a Deino and Zwelious makes something more… personal. More like you are a Pokémon trainer in the world, being happy about every victory and every defeat. And once you get to Hydreigon, it’s like an achievement. You feel relieved that you have a reliable ability in Levitate instead of Hustle. You feel happy that you have a fully evolved Pseudo-Legendary on your team. You feel accomplished… you feel connection. Meanwhile Iron Jugulis is a Pokémon you catch endgame and leave in a Box forever until you either trade it for a Pokémon you don’t have or you delete your save data. No achievement, no satisfaction, not even any sort of connection that is even comparable to Hydreigon. It’s just… hollow. And that’s a shame, because if they did it right, we wouldn’t be talking about Iron Jugulis in this manner. But, like what was said in the video, Hydreigon is Game Freak at their best, making a Pokémon that you can connect with, and Iron Jugulis… is just a complete hollow shell of what worked… TL;DR - Hydreigon is made for the Pokémon journey and all the experience you gain. Iron Jugulis is made to fill a quota.
It is because to them, Mandibuzz and Yveltal are the only existing Dark/Flying types. Furthermore, as Mandibuzz is a Unovan Pokémon and Yveltal is a good legendary, they have no reason to make another good Dark/Flying type. Remember, gutted Weavile exists.
A physical version that can learn Knock Off, Sucker Punch, and Acrobatics would've been pretty damn cool. We can also already see that Acrobatics is pretty good on Roaring Moon, too.
Watchog is also an incredibly useful pokemon for shiny hunting. Since it has illuminate as an ability and moves such as super fang, false swipe, hypnosis and thunder wave. Sorry Iron Jugulis 😅
@Jembozaba I was thinking of just giving them a ability that their usual forms do (e.g. roaring moon with aerilate or iron valiant with sharpness) and some that have alternative abilities that fit with it (e.g. iron thorns with electric surge instead of sand stream) then I remembered iron jugulis existed and what ability was I supposed to give it because the hydrogen line gets two abilities levitate (oh boy rotom fan 2) or hustle and what ability would I give it? A brand new ability that allows it to Infatuate genderless pokemon? Because that is the only notable thing in it's dex that it's a love child of a hydrogen and a robot
I really hope DLC adds Hidden abilities for Paradox mons. They need some freedom from weather/terrain theme locks and, in general, some more individuality.
You know, they are like that because Pokemon is thought mostly for Dual Battles, mostly. A lot of Pokémon are like that, specially in this game, they have way more usage on duals than in singles... Except that for Paradox mons, the setters are actually the legendaries, which is cool on paper, but they are banned at some competitions, so it's really a shame they are locked behind usage with two legendaries.
Iron Bundle/Flutter Mane with actual abilities would be terrifying. I mean,having ur ability either boost something that one of ur types can’t rly hit/boosting the electric type is kinda sad
Honestly just give this thing No Guard. We've seen that concept before with Mega Pidgeot and it's not bad. I actually think that the Paradox Pokemon in general should have had some hidden abilities. It might break a few of them but it would help them feel way more distinct.
I use Hydreigon all the time on my main Gen 9 OU Team; genuinely believe it has the tools to be a true OU mon, especially now that Chien-Pao’s been banished to Ubers. A Draco Meteor coming off a maxed modest base 125 Sp. Attack is always going to sting and Dark Pulse is a fantastic alternate attack too at least neutrally hit most switch-ins [plus choice scarf lets it outspeed Dragapult and OHKO it]. It competes for dark-type special attacker slot with Greninja, whose much faster without needing a choice scarf. However, Hydreigon hits harder, is much bulkier with 92/90/90 hp and defences with Levitate ignoring Spikes chip (or being slowed by a left-field Sticky Webs team) and has some clutch resists so it can use it natural bulk to hard-switch in, tank a resisted hit (or ignore Ground & Psychic attacks entirely) and provide immediate offensive pressure afterwards. Plus it has coverage out the wazoo! Earth Power, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Surf/Hydro Pump. If there’s something in particular you’re team needs KO’ed, Hydreigon can get it done. Thank you for reading my Hydreigon TedTalk 😅
"what cost would i have to pay for my futuristic upgrade?" "you lose your dragon type. Now you spam hurricane" "okay..." "also you lose your malice and heads" "muthafu-" "also you're smaller and you 're far out reach from OU" " *Censored for youtube policy* "
I feel like im the only one that liked the future paradox forms being "just robots". Because i can imagine some future world where by some disaster multiple pokemon species died out and resorted to creating the iron pokemon we know now. Also why i like the shinies for some of them being all metal. It looks like a manufacturing mistake which is cool to me
Meanwhile, I think they are meant to be "eerie", because (THEORY) I don't think they are actually from the future, they are based upon urban legends of said Pokemon from the future, so they can just look unnatural, but familiar at first glance.
The only thing good with Iron Juguilis is that it has 4 weaknesess, none of them being a 4x unlike Hydreigon with 5 plus fairy being a 4x, but that doesn't matter when you can terastalize into a type that resists fairy.
been having alot of fun with scarf hydreigon in ou, especially alongside iron valiant and gholdengo. so glad hydreigon is the only hydreigonlike pokemon out there right now
Friendly reminder: Quark Drive activates under Electric terrain HOWEVER Iron Jugulis doesn't even get the electric type power boost under terrain because it is a flying type and the only way to get the terrain electric type boost, the pokemon has to be grounded. So not only the Ability is out right useless, it cant even use it correctly you have to use tera blast electric type BUT AT THAT POINT YOU MINE AS WELL NOT HAVE THE FLYING TYPING TO BEGIN WITH! *WHAT WERE THEY THINKIIIIING???*
@@grandempress1947 But isnt the whole point of their Abilities and atributes to sinergize with their respective weather/Terrain Iron Valiant gets access to thunderbolt wich in itself gets a good powerboost in electric terrain Iron Hands is an Electric type that apreciates the electric boost Flutter mane and Roaring moon abuses the sun even tho its not a Fire type Iron thorns also gets a good boost in terrain Iron Jugulis is a quark drive user that Cant even use the electric terrain boost because of the flying Typing
@@AmoniPaleo The terrain activates its Quark Drive. That's all it needs it to do. Iron Treads, Bundle, Moth, and Jugulis don't benefit any further from the terrain beyond Quark Drive activation. The ONLY thing Jugulis does worse than them is not getting the sleep immunity. But it literally annihilates Amoongus, Brute Bonnet, Toedscruel, and Breloom on sight anyways so its REALLY not much of a downgrade And let's not forget the Scarlet side of things. Aside from Flutter Mane getting Mystical Fire, they all just basically give themselves a free Fire weakness in the sun. And Great Tusk and Sandy Shocks are the only two that really care about having a water neutrality
@@grandempress1947 A fire weakeness? What are you talking about m8?? Thats not how weather works Also the Sun gives a power boost to mystical fire, Flutter mane abuses this to counter steel types What does Iron Jugulis get? It doesnt get an electric Boost It has to run Heavy duty boost 99% of the time where it could apreciate a Choice specs (In wich Hydrrigon loves to use) It doesnt even get roost and its a flippin flying type Its less bulky then Hydreigon You have to run in rain or you either have to deal with Hurricanes terrible accuracy or use airslash I get it, you love this mishmash of a disapointment of a pokemon but dont deny this is terribly designed. Even Brute Bonnet can somewhat work alot better then whatever Iron Jugulis is trying to do Hydreigon is what Iron Jugulis wants to be, but its a disapointment Even its dex entry feels so Unispired, they cleary had NO IDEA What they wanted to do with this thing.
I actually adore the name Iron Jugulis. I think my immediate thought by word association when I hear it is “I am going to rip out your jugular” energy - Which is intimidating to the max. It’s funny though, because jugulis doesn’t seem to be a real word / a word with any meaning relevant to the mon. Really weird choice there. Deffo a shame how this thing plays, too. Wish it had more flavour, you hate to see it. Great video as always my guy!!❤️
That name doomed it. Hydreigon is a fluke of a cool Pokémon that looks cool and plays nicely for everyone alike. Since they decided to take a stab at Hydreigon again, (especially with the supposedly cool name Iron Jugulis) Iron Jugulis was destined to fail as it is a rule that cool Pokémon (that is, Pokémon who immediately look cool and/or have a signature ability and have no other selling points) are destined to suck.
The Jug is niche, but underrated. I used it on a team with Pincurchin (another underrated mon in the meta, specifically because it enables paradox mons), Pelipper for rain, and 4 future paradox mons. Takes a little setup, and unfortunately pincurchin doesn’t switch in well, but specs Jug hurricane with quark drive and rain hits UNBELIEVABLY hard.
@@iantaakalla8180 I mean Zapdos is elite. It’s got good typing, decent bulk when invested, roost for recovery, plus discharge and static make it a paralysis monster. Zapdos has been good since gen 1 and it’s not going anywhere.
IJ is the primary reason I wish they didn’t just copy-paste the same abilities over from one another. If it could just retain levitate and became dark steel or something I feel it’d be significantly better.
Even though my favorite Pokemon is Garchomp, the first Pokemon I took to level 100 that wasn't my starter or a legendary was Hydreigon. This one Pokemon is what motivated me to start making teams of more than just my starter and some legendaries. IRON JUGULIS HOWEVER MAKES ME WANT TO SPAM LEGENDS AGAIN AND NOT CARE ABOUT TRAINING ANYBODY.
You know what would be neat to see done with Hydreigon? If we got another Legends game which gave us a past version of it. The Violet Dex states that Hydreigon is only so aggressive nowadays because people were afraid of it and chased it away, so how about a Dragon/Fairy Hydreigon that's super friendly, maybe playing up it's jester theme? We're missing that type combo now that MegAltaria isn't a thing anymore, so it would be neat to see and could be exactly what Hydreigon would need to return to OU after the fairies bullied it out.
@@TheWizardMus I imagine a historical Deino as being a sort-of reverse seeing-eye dog, where they're still blind, and spend their first few days of life calling out for a person or Pokemon to act as it's eyes. And of course they're super loyal to whoever helps them out.
Just have to comment to let you know this video had me nearly choking to death on my dinner. I can't recall the last time I heard a roast this deep on a single Pokemon. You can hear in JC's voice how offended he is by Iron Jugulis from every conceivable angle. Here I thought I was just going to get some general competitive trivia, but instead I was treated to stand-up comedy, and now I can't even say the name Iron jugulis without chuckling. I didn't think much of this Pokemon before clicking this video, and now every time I see it I will remember all of this, so thank you.
I think the most ironic part was one of the best feaatures about hydregion was the versiality it provided, at least in the past. It could run DD, NP, Choiced, Defogger, LO Roost but Jugulius lost basically all of that. Dark+Flying is a good stab combo, but it has to use Hurricane which outside of rain has shakey accuracy. It cannot use nasty plot which alongside booster energy might make a good late game cleaner, despite being flying cannot get rooser for longevity or defog for utility. The attack lost basically kills the chances of it being mixed, however the drop wasn't large enough that it had some other stat getting a crazy boost. Also beta Hydregion was going to be a tank so they could've made some war machine version of hydregion but just made it pointy
Thank god there is no version of hydreigon that is worse in every way at all, with a bad name, lower BST, worse movepool and typing paired with it's ability. That would simply be ridiculous. Hydreigon is perfect in everyway, and I'm glad that there is no other version ever, not in the past nor the future. Did you think anything would change because you clicked "read more"? There is no future hydreigon, go away.
It's real, it's a Dragon Tank based on Hydreigon's original dragon tank inspiration, and not a neon Honchkrow because that would be silly, especially because it coming in the _future_ would give the Pokémon it's supposed to replace time to learn and set up Stealth Rock to trap and kill it the moment it shows up. 🤣
It’s got a face not even a mother could love. It’s got a name that sounds like a torture device for Richie Rich characters. It’s got the charisma of E. coli. Say it with me, it’s Iron Jugulis!
Fun fact: jugulis isnt even a real english word. It sounds like a non-english native trying to deduce a plural for "jugular" lmfao Fact checked from cambridge and merriam-webster dictionary
I honestly don’t like how all the paradox Pokémon have the same abilities. They did the same thing with the Ultra Beasts and honestly it just seems uncreative and lazy to me. Sure, it’s an ability unique to them that pairs with the abilities of the cover legendaries, but they giving them actual abilities if not new, still unique abilities would help to make them not only more viable but more interesting as well.
Yveltal is a bulky dark flying type cause it's signature move oblivion wing gives it equal recovery to roost. Galaria Moltres ability in berserker and access to nasty plot and agility make it a devastating sweeper. Iron Juggulis has nothing, if game freak wanted to buff hydregon they shod give it nidokings hidden ability of Sheer Force.
While I agree that iron jugulis is the biggest disappointment design wise of the paradox mons, I’d argue that the biggest disappointment competitively is brute bonnet, at least from a singles perspective. Amoongus is a great OU mon even in gen 9, while brute bonnet is sitting as one of the least used UU mons, although with torkoal in the tier this might be subject to change.
They really should have doubled down on the hydra theme and made its' arm "heads" bigger and more menacing, and lean into the futuristic theme by having the heads be connected to the body with metal pipes, y'know, so it actually fits its namesake of IRON JUGULIS. I don't understand why its' name refers to its necks when if anything emphasis on the necks in the design was turned down.
man, hydreigon got scammed this gen. it would've been perfect for a violet paradox mon, especially since violet only had 6 while scarlet had 7, and all it got was stealth rock in exchange for loosing roost. oh well, at least they didn't ruin it.
I wish they made Iron Jugulis a bulky support special-wall, with access to a lot of status moves and fast too. I don’t think the dark/flying typing is bad, its just a better defensive typing than offensive, and its clear they didn’t really want to make this thing a broken special attacker like Bundle and Flutter. Also Iron Jet would have been a better name
The way you feel about Iron Mug- er Jugulis is the EXACT way I feel about 3 Gen 4 travesty evolutions: Rhyperior: ugly orange roblox fat sack of garbage. Dusknoir: BUTCHERED monster design that looks like a Fischer-Price Halloween decoration with a stupid yellow antenna for no reason. Magnezone: Stupid UFO that couldn't even get the colors of Magneton right, and, coincidentally, another stupid yellow antenna for no reason. Even Gamefreak knows Dusknoir is terrible because Dusclops with an Eviolite is miles better. Granted Magnezone IS actually pretty good in competitive, but that's no excuse to butcher his design.
I Actually don't care about what you said you can said ur opinion
I feel bad for you. This poketubers gave some horrible misinformation just to spit it with babbling nonsense talk. Iron Jugulis is still good on UU. I know some mons who can be the most disappointing mon of the franchise than Jugulis.
I respect your opinion too Iron Jugulis. Thanks for watching.
@@jimothycool i mean, ei. He wanted a video. Not "rainbows and butterflies" or "slander", just a video. And you delivered.
What an absolutely based comment
I agree
Iron Jugulis is just vastly outclassed by Iron Mugulis.
Iron Jugulis IMO is the biggest offender of "future paradox pokemon that doesn't change much visually". Even worse because it's been stated that Hydreigon was originally a design for a tank-themed dragon; why they didn't just choose to go with the most obvious idea they had already came up with years ago is beyond me
Imagine a paradox form where it looks like Cerberus, and is a dark/fire type.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Cerberus Tank Dragon? SIGN ME UP!
Also have you seen how pathetically tiny it is compared to Hydreigon???? Its like, am I supposed to be scared of that edgy toy robot??
@@virtualcolt I mean, TBF, ALL the Future Paradoxes are smaller (and all the past ones are bigger), it just sticks out more with Jugulis, both because of how intimidating Hydreigon is supposed to be and how underwhelming it ended up functionally and mechanically
Edit: Fixed a Typo
Hydreigon also has basis on the idea of control which fits very well with Ghetsis.
I think the idea of Iron Jugulis’ flying type was to retain its ground immunity. At the cost of 2 more weaknesses and It’s primary ability being absolutely useless…
Quark Drive triggers whether or not you are grounded
@@G-LukeJA But it doesnt get an eletric type attack boost or iminuty to sleep
Unlike Iron Valiant because at least it boosts thunderbolt
Fr they should have made it grounded and put more emphasis on it's 3 jaws
@@akarien1395 or go back to its beatq design where it was mewnt to be a tank
Wdym by 2 more weaknesess? Iron Jugulis has 4 weakneses while Hydreigon has 5. I'm pretty sure you mean by 2 weaknesess hydreigon didn't have.
Whoever that Iron Jugulis guy was in the comment section. I hope you survived this onslaught and make a full recovery.
I'm sorry Iron Jugulis..
He made *a* recovery.
I have never seen Jimothy angry, he usually speaks in a calm and monotone voice.
Even I have my limits..
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@@Supersoga hi to a fan from Brazil.
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@@jimothycool I wonder what you were so mad about. Hydreigon is cool, strong and versatile and there is no other version of him ever.
Damn he really went right for the jugulus in this video
I knew that this pun was coming...
The worse thing about jugulus is that unlike the other paradoxes he doesn't add anything to Hydregon's design outside of 'but what if was a robot?'
About who?
that's just all the future forms though
Thorns comes really close too
That's literally every future form, most Paradox forms kinda just outright suck concept- and/or design-wise with a few exceptions. Past Salamence is the pinnacle of missed opportunity, kinda just outright ignores previous dex entries.
it's literally low poly Hydreigon lol
I am firmly convinced at this point that "Iron Neck" would have been a superior name for Paradox Hydreigon, because atleast that would have been funny.
But instead we have this "thing" that has to wear shoes to survive.
I'm thinking Iron Throat would've been a better name
I'd go for Iron Triplet, though I would've preferred if Future Paradox Pokemon had some more complexity to their names other than slap Iron in front of it.
In the Italian traslation of the game Iron Jugulus it's actualy called Iron Neck (Collo Ferro). However I personaly like the english name much better, Collo Ferro it dosen't sound intimidateing at all.
Iron Hydra, as boring or edgy it may sound, would have been a way better name than jugulis
Iron gizzard
I guess we know where Iron Bundle got its brokenness - it stole that power from Iron Thorns and Iron Jugulis.
I mean at least Thorn has some sauce/gimmicks it could utilize, Iron Jugulis just kinda exists.
Fun fact: Hydreigon was originally based on a tank and even though that part of the design was scrapped, you can still see some aspects of it remaining in the final design.
Knowing all of that, they still chose to make Iron Jugulis the most boring out of all paradox mons, because us Hydreigon fans can't get nice things
at least we can tera our hydregion into steel and commit fairy genocide
This is why I hate it's design. Why is it not a hydra tank? Such a waste of a design
That would have been so sick, I’m even madder about jugulis
At least your favorite Pokémon has a Paradox design
Man, now all I can think about is how cool Iron Jugulis would've looked as a futuristic tank.
i love how his rage kept building and even got angry at a creature that doesn't exist at the end
Cool hydreigon video! I blacked out at 0:14, shame I missed so much hydreigon talk
If Jimothy had a gun with 2 bullets, and the option of choosing between shooting 2 historically horrible people and Iron Jugulis, he would shoot Iron Jugulis 3x, don’t even ask me how he got the 3rd bullet
Man got so angry he willed the 3rd bullet into existence.
He would find the designer, hit his kneecaps twice and then bash Iron Jugulis with the gun.
Hydreigon: I'm evolving, just backwards
You are not funny. You just want attention
Hydreigon: Catch these Rocks, faker
It's weird that Violet had one less Paradox mon thar Scarlet. Maybe Gamefreak just forgot about it or something, idk.
Pretty sure both of them have 7 each, no?
@@BillySrMick Nope. It’s weird that they just forgot one, but it makes the Turo battle easier at least since he’s only got 5 on his team. It was mentioned in the leaks prior to release that there’d be a Hydreigon form, but it’s not in the game so I guess they just decided against it, or maybe want to make it DLC? Either way, kind of a bummer because I’m sure it would’ve been cool, since there’s so much you can do with a futuristic Hydra Cannon pokemon.
I didn't knew about that
@@It-Will-All-Be-Okay-I-Promise I just got the joke lmao sorry
another thing, hydreigon is really popular in vgc rn. it usually runs tera steel, poison or fire to get rid of its fairy weakness with scope lens+focus energy to ignore the draco meteor sp atk drops. really fun to play tbh, and I haven't seen a single jug**s on team preview the entire season
I battled against one in master rank, all it did was spam air cutter and was really annoying but felt more like a pest than an actual threat.
@@shiny_teddiursa no more togekiss flinch spamming so I guess they moved on to the worst pokemon ever created
@@sweetsweetalib4857 yeah :/
I wish they made Jugulis a bulky special wall with access to more status moves, would at least make it more unique than just being a weaker hydregion with less coverage.
The real kicker with Iron Jugulis is that they refused to give it any good setup moves. No Nasty Plot, no Agility, no Calm Mind, no Dragon Dance. You're forced to use shit like Work Up, Focus Energy, and Charge Beam. To fix Iron Jugulis, I think you take 10 or 20 points out of Attack and put it into Sp. Atk or Speed, and then give it all of those set up moves
I wish they did that with base Hydreigon, if it had something like 90 atk and 105 spe and 133 spe atk it would have been OU, being the only special based pseudo and outspeeding Garchomp would be so great
An ideal future Hydreigon would have utilized the tank aesthetic that was scraped from its original concept. Make it a robotic Hydreigon on tank treads with a Dark/Steel typing.
And just for fun, a prehistoric Hydreigon can be based more on the hydra or Yamato no Orochi and make it more snake-like with eight heads. It would be Dark/Poison.
That’s actually genius, I never even considered Orochi as a basis for a past variant, just a tank for the future. That’s actually made me think of basing the past variant on the Hydra or Medusa, Poison/Dragon for the former, Dark/Rock for the latter. The Medusa form may be difficult to make viable from typing alone, but perhaps with good speed it would work
I feel making Jugulis more like a jet pack would have fit better; make the legs jets like Miraidons legs, and make its 2 hands heads into blasters instead
They should’ve made it a Dragon Dance Physical attacker. Honestly I wish the future forms weren’t all just robots and they actually put thought into how these Pokémon might evolve in the future based on natural selection of specific traits. Something like Pokémon Insurgence’s Mega Hydreigon which is quadrupedal and grounded, and has 5 heads would’ve been an amazing future form.
I AGREE. The stats should have been the opposite of Flutter Mane. If you are gonna call it Iron Jugulis, then show off how it goes for the jugulis when it attacks.
Hydreigon: Who are you?
Iron Jugulis: I’m you but worse
I would like to add a bit. Hydreigon and its line of evolution is actually pretty fun and interesting to use. I had the pleasure to level up a Deino from Level 1, all the way to its final form. And even though I didn’t care much for the Deino line before then, it made me realize why some people like Hydreigon. Leveling it up as a Deino and Zwelious makes something more… personal. More like you are a Pokémon trainer in the world, being happy about every victory and every defeat. And once you get to Hydreigon, it’s like an achievement. You feel relieved that you have a reliable ability in Levitate instead of Hustle. You feel happy that you have a fully evolved Pseudo-Legendary on your team. You feel accomplished… you feel connection.
Meanwhile Iron Jugulis is a Pokémon you catch endgame and leave in a Box forever until you either trade it for a Pokémon you don’t have or you delete your save data. No achievement, no satisfaction, not even any sort of connection that is even comparable to Hydreigon. It’s just… hollow. And that’s a shame, because if they did it right, we wouldn’t be talking about Iron Jugulis in this manner. But, like what was said in the video, Hydreigon is Game Freak at their best, making a Pokémon that you can connect with, and Iron Jugulis… is just a complete hollow shell of what worked…
TL;DR - Hydreigon is made for the Pokémon journey and all the experience you gain. Iron Jugulis is made to fill a quota.
That is partly why it loses the dragon type and has the same typing as yveltal possibly. It loses something that made it what it was.
Why they didn't make Iron Jugulus a dark/flying physical attacker with dragon dance is beyond me. Such wasted potential.
It is because to them, Mandibuzz and Yveltal are the only existing Dark/Flying types. Furthermore, as Mandibuzz is a Unovan Pokémon and Yveltal is a good legendary, they have no reason to make another good Dark/Flying type.
Remember, gutted Weavile exists.
A physical version that can learn Knock Off, Sucker Punch, and Acrobatics would've been pretty damn cool. We can also already see that Acrobatics is pretty good on Roaring Moon, too.
Sheesh Jimmy really went for the jugular on this pokemon
This is the first time I've ever heard Jimothy being angry and I think chills just went down my spine
Its sad that iron jugulis does not exist. However, iron mugulis does exist and is a very real threat.
Watchog is also an incredibly useful pokemon for shiny hunting. Since it has illuminate as an ability and moves such as super fang, false swipe, hypnosis and thunder wave. Sorry Iron Jugulis 😅
Iron jugulis? More like inferior jugulis
Ok that was a terrible joke
*laughs at the joke*
More like Iron Junk-ulis
It was a good joke.
Better joke than this thing’s design
The shiny is also such a letdown
Before heavy duty boots I sometimes used Hydreigon as a defogger in ubers because it wasn't weak to rock and could check Primal Groudon
And also as a scarfer
GF could easily release special forms of Paradox mons in the future with different abilities. Like an Iron Moth with levitate
So you are hoping that they get hidden abilities in the future?
Hope they do
@@fishbot9902 I guess
@Jembozaba I was thinking of just giving them a ability that their usual forms do (e.g. roaring moon with aerilate or iron valiant with sharpness) and some that have alternative abilities that fit with it (e.g. iron thorns with electric surge instead of sand stream) then I remembered iron jugulis existed and what ability was I supposed to give it because the hydrogen line gets two abilities levitate (oh boy rotom fan 2) or hustle and what ability would I give it? A brand new ability that allows it to Infatuate genderless pokemon? Because that is the only notable thing in it's dex that it's a love child of a hydrogen and a robot
Imagine iron valiant with download😂
Hydreigon is legitimately one of the coolest pokemon of all time
I really hope DLC adds Hidden abilities for Paradox mons. They need some freedom from weather/terrain theme locks and, in general, some more individuality.
You know, they are like that because Pokemon is thought mostly for Dual Battles, mostly. A lot of Pokémon are like that, specially in this game, they have way more usage on duals than in singles... Except that for Paradox mons, the setters are actually the legendaries, which is cool on paper, but they are banned at some competitions, so it's really a shame they are locked behind usage with two legendaries.
Iron Bundle/Flutter Mane with actual abilities would be terrifying. I mean,having ur ability either boost something that one of ur types can’t rly hit/boosting the electric type is kinda sad
I love Neverhood. I feel like, sometimes, it was just a wild fever dream. Because nearly nobody even knows what it was... But I know. I was there.
Crazy game
Honestly just give this thing No Guard. We've seen that concept before with Mega Pidgeot and it's not bad.
I actually think that the Paradox Pokemon in general should have had some hidden abilities. It might break a few of them but it would help them feel way more distinct.
Praying for iron gligulis in a future expansion
I use Hydreigon all the time on my main Gen 9 OU Team; genuinely believe it has the tools to be a true OU mon, especially now that Chien-Pao’s been banished to Ubers.
A Draco Meteor coming off a maxed modest base 125 Sp. Attack is always going to sting and Dark Pulse is a fantastic alternate attack too at least neutrally hit most switch-ins [plus choice scarf lets it outspeed Dragapult and OHKO it].
It competes for dark-type special attacker slot with Greninja, whose much faster without needing a choice scarf. However, Hydreigon hits harder, is much bulkier with 92/90/90 hp and defences with Levitate ignoring Spikes chip (or being slowed by a left-field Sticky Webs team) and has some clutch resists so it can use it natural bulk to hard-switch in, tank a resisted hit (or ignore Ground & Psychic attacks entirely) and provide immediate offensive pressure afterwards. Plus it has coverage out the wazoo! Earth Power, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Surf/Hydro Pump. If there’s something in particular you’re team needs KO’ed, Hydreigon can get it done.
Thank you for reading my Hydreigon TedTalk 😅
this is in fact, true
You think you an online rando have the level of expertise needed to verify this video? You obviously want attention.
This video was hilarious. I haven’t laughed out loud from a UA-cam video in so long! Thank you!
Weird how you made a whole video about a Pokémon that never existed.
Jimothy Cool : i won't talk about this pokémon ever again
Iron Jugulis : What if I became number 1 ? *smug*
"what cost would i have to pay for my futuristic upgrade?"
"you lose your dragon type. Now you spam hurricane"
"okay..."
"also you lose your malice and heads"
"muthafu-"
"also you're smaller and you 're far out reach from OU"
" *Censored for youtube policy* "
I feel like im the only one that liked the future paradox forms being "just robots". Because i can imagine some future world where by some disaster multiple pokemon species died out and resorted to creating the iron pokemon we know now. Also why i like the shinies for some of them being all metal. It looks like a manufacturing mistake which is cool to me
Meanwhile, I think they are meant to be "eerie", because (THEORY) I don't think they are actually from the future, they are based upon urban legends of said Pokemon from the future, so they can just look unnatural, but familiar at first glance.
hydreigon is the swepper on my team. iron jugulis is the pokemon that i forgot about
Iron thorns: *walks into the room*
Jugulis: GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
The only thing good with Iron Juguilis is that it has 4 weaknesess, none of them being a 4x unlike Hydreigon with 5 plus fairy being a 4x, but that doesn't matter when you can terastalize into a type that resists fairy.
been having alot of fun with scarf hydreigon in ou, especially alongside iron valiant and gholdengo. so glad hydreigon is the only hydreigonlike pokemon out there right now
Friendly reminder:
Quark Drive activates under Electric terrain HOWEVER Iron Jugulis doesn't even get the electric type power boost under terrain because it is a flying type and the only way to get the terrain electric type boost, the pokemon has to be grounded.
So not only the Ability is out right useless, it cant even use it correctly you have to use tera blast electric type BUT AT THAT POINT YOU MINE AS WELL NOT HAVE THE FLYING TYPING TO BEGIN WITH!
*WHAT WERE THEY THINKIIIIING???*
Most of the Paradox mons don't actually do anything with the sun/terrain. That's not a very fair reason to pick on Jugulis.
@@grandempress1947 But isnt the whole point of their Abilities and atributes to sinergize with their respective weather/Terrain
Iron Valiant gets access to thunderbolt wich in itself gets a good powerboost in electric terrain
Iron Hands is an Electric type that apreciates the electric boost
Flutter mane and Roaring moon abuses the sun even tho its not a Fire type
Iron thorns also gets a good boost in terrain
Iron Jugulis is a quark drive user that Cant even use the electric terrain boost because of the flying Typing
@@AmoniPaleo
The terrain activates its Quark Drive. That's all it needs it to do. Iron Treads, Bundle, Moth, and Jugulis don't benefit any further from the terrain beyond Quark Drive activation. The ONLY thing Jugulis does worse than them is not getting the sleep immunity. But it literally annihilates Amoongus, Brute Bonnet, Toedscruel, and Breloom on sight anyways so its REALLY not much of a downgrade
And let's not forget the Scarlet side of things. Aside from Flutter Mane getting Mystical Fire, they all just basically give themselves a free Fire weakness in the sun. And Great Tusk and Sandy Shocks are the only two that really care about having a water neutrality
@@grandempress1947 A fire weakeness? What are you talking about m8??
Thats not how weather works
Also the Sun gives a power boost to mystical fire, Flutter mane abuses this to counter steel types
What does Iron Jugulis get?
It doesnt get an electric Boost
It has to run Heavy duty boost 99% of the time where it could apreciate a Choice specs (In wich Hydrrigon loves to use)
It doesnt even get roost and its a flippin flying type
Its less bulky then Hydreigon
You have to run in rain or you either have to deal with Hurricanes terrible accuracy or use airslash
I get it, you love this mishmash of a disapointment of a pokemon but dont deny this is terribly designed.
Even Brute Bonnet can somewhat work alot better then whatever Iron Jugulis is trying to do
Hydreigon is what Iron Jugulis wants to be, but its a disapointment
Even its dex entry feels so Unispired, they cleary had NO IDEA What they wanted to do with this thing.
I hope that some day Hydreigon gets sheer force as a HA
"jugulis is horrible"
terra-flying hurricane jugulis on rain: *observe*
Then that means its only niche will be stolen by Zapdos soon meaning it is both worse Hydreigon and worse Zapdos somehow. What a feat!
Jimothy Cool got Jimothy Heated in this one
Let's be real, the name of every single paradox pokemon are straight up dumb. Gamefreak was clearly on drugs when they named the paradox mons
I actually adore the name Iron Jugulis. I think my immediate thought by word association when I hear it is “I am going to rip out your jugular” energy - Which is intimidating to the max.
It’s funny though, because jugulis doesn’t seem to be a real word / a word with any meaning relevant to the mon. Really weird choice there.
Deffo a shame how this thing plays, too. Wish it had more flavour, you hate to see it. Great video as always my guy!!❤️
That name doomed it. Hydreigon is a fluke of a cool Pokémon that looks cool and plays nicely for everyone alike. Since they decided to take a stab at Hydreigon again, (especially with the supposedly cool name Iron Jugulis) Iron Jugulis was destined to fail as it is a rule that cool Pokémon (that is, Pokémon who immediately look cool and/or have a signature ability and have no other selling points) are destined to suck.
The Jug is niche, but underrated. I used it on a team with Pincurchin (another underrated mon in the meta, specifically because it enables paradox mons), Pelipper for rain, and 4 future paradox mons. Takes a little setup, and unfortunately pincurchin doesn’t switch in well, but specs Jug hurricane with quark drive and rain hits UNBELIEVABLY hard.
So Iron Jugulis is worse Zapdos then?
@@iantaakalla8180 I mean Zapdos is elite. It’s got good typing, decent bulk when invested, roost for recovery, plus discharge and static make it a paralysis monster. Zapdos has been good since gen 1 and it’s not going anywhere.
IJ is the primary reason I wish they didn’t just copy-paste the same abilities over from one another. If it could just retain levitate and became dark steel or something I feel it’d be significantly better.
Even though my favorite Pokemon is Garchomp, the first Pokemon I took to level 100 that wasn't my starter or a legendary was Hydreigon. This one Pokemon is what motivated me to start making teams of more than just my starter and some legendaries. IRON JUGULIS HOWEVER MAKES ME WANT TO SPAM LEGENDS AGAIN AND NOT CARE ABOUT TRAINING ANYBODY.
same. garchomp will always be number one but hydreigon will always be special to me aswell
iron jugulis: *exists*
jimothy: and I took that personally
0:50 "levitate is an ability you can never go wrong with"
that is unless you're rotom-fan
Didn’t expect Jimothy to start reading out Mein Kampf at the end, was definitely a bit uncalled for imo
Iron jugelis kinda reminds me of mecha king ghidorah from the 1991 movie godzilla vs king ghidorah.
You know what would be neat to see done with Hydreigon? If we got another Legends game which gave us a past version of it. The Violet Dex states that Hydreigon is only so aggressive nowadays because people were afraid of it and chased it away, so how about a Dragon/Fairy Hydreigon that's super friendly, maybe playing up it's jester theme? We're missing that type combo now that MegAltaria isn't a thing anymore, so it would be neat to see and could be exactly what Hydreigon would need to return to OU after the fairies bullied it out.
Totally picturing a gaggle of Dieno wandering the town like puppies
@@TheWizardMus
I imagine a historical Deino as being a sort-of reverse seeing-eye dog, where they're still blind, and spend their first few days of life calling out for a person or Pokemon to act as it's eyes. And of course they're super loyal to whoever helps them out.
4:17-6:20 ogm dude calm down, that iron jugulis guy must be crying right now 😂
Dont worry i respect his opinion
@@AI-DreigonGPT you there sir,mad respect to you for respecting his opinion
all the future forms have the worst names of all time
Iron Jugulis > Brute Bonnet
Also this video started the whole iron mugulis story
I... actually love the name "Iron Jugulis". I think it's design looks really slick, too.
Just have to comment to let you know this video had me nearly choking to death on my dinner. I can't recall the last time I heard a roast this deep on a single Pokemon. You can hear in JC's voice how offended he is by Iron Jugulis from every conceivable angle. Here I thought I was just going to get some general competitive trivia, but instead I was treated to stand-up comedy, and now I can't even say the name Iron jugulis without chuckling. I didn't think much of this Pokemon before clicking this video, and now every time I see it I will remember all of this, so thank you.
Game Freak should have made Iron Jugulis be based on a tank since Hydreigon was originally going to be designed after a war tank.
I think the most ironic part was one of the best feaatures about hydregion was the versiality it provided, at least in the past. It could run DD, NP, Choiced, Defogger, LO Roost but Jugulius lost basically all of that. Dark+Flying is a good stab combo, but it has to use Hurricane which outside of rain has shakey accuracy. It cannot use nasty plot which alongside booster energy might make a good late game cleaner, despite being flying cannot get rooser for longevity or defog for utility. The attack lost basically kills the chances of it being mixed, however the drop wasn't large enough that it had some other stat getting a crazy boost.
Also beta Hydregion was going to be a tank so they could've made some war machine version of hydregion but just made it pointy
Thank god there is no version of hydreigon that is worse in every way at all, with a bad name, lower BST, worse movepool and typing paired with it's ability. That would simply be ridiculous. Hydreigon is perfect in everyway, and I'm glad that there is no other version ever, not in the past nor the future.
Did you think anything would change because you clicked "read more"? There is no future hydreigon, go away.
A truthful comment.
It's real, it's a Dragon Tank based on Hydreigon's original dragon tank inspiration, and not a neon Honchkrow because that would be silly, especially because it coming in the _future_ would give the Pokémon it's supposed to replace time to learn and set up Stealth Rock to trap and kill it the moment it shows up. 🤣
It’s got a face not even a mother could love.
It’s got a name that sounds like a torture device for Richie Rich characters.
It’s got the charisma of E. coli.
Say it with me, it’s Iron Jugulis!
"levitate is an ability that can never go wrong"
Rotom-Fan would like to talk to you
Fun fact: jugulis isnt even a real english word. It sounds like a non-english native trying to deduce a plural for "jugular" lmfao
Fact checked from cambridge and merriam-webster dictionary
I have never seen more hate directed at a single Pokémon in my life 😭
Lmao I love watching this. Still your funniest video to me. I’ve yet to hear you this animated
I am pleased that we are cancelling Iron Jugulis
I honestly don’t like how all the paradox Pokémon have the same abilities. They did the same thing with the Ultra Beasts and honestly it just seems uncreative and lazy to me. Sure, it’s an ability unique to them that pairs with the abilities of the cover legendaries, but they giving them actual abilities if not new, still unique abilities would help to make them not only more viable but more interesting as well.
Yveltal is a bulky dark flying type cause it's signature move oblivion wing gives it equal recovery to roost. Galaria Moltres ability in berserker and access to nasty plot and agility make it a devastating sweeper. Iron Juggulis has nothing, if game freak wanted to buff hydregon they shod give it nidokings hidden ability of Sheer Force.
Naw that'd make it instantly Uber, just give it no guard and it'll be fine
LEAVE GARBODOR OUT OF THIS.
I like Garbodor actually. Funny Pokemon
It looks pretty decent for a walking trash heap.
At least Garbodor reliably sets spikes wherever it lands.
Fact checked: true
Hydreigon's son does disappoint.
All real Hydreigon enjoyers use the Wide Lens + Focus Energy 100% crit rate, Draco Meteor sp.atk drop avoiding, 0EV 0IV -speed nature Trick Room set
At least Iron Jugulis started Iron Mugulis' story 😂
"Levitate is an ability you can never go wrong with"
Rotom-Fan- "Oh, on God?"
When Iron Jugulis also gets Levitate as a hidden ability to rub the salt in the wound of the jugular/carotid/any neck artery or vein
If it had 2-5 more speed it would have been OU
Nah
While I agree that iron jugulis is the biggest disappointment design wise of the paradox mons, I’d argue that the biggest disappointment competitively is brute bonnet, at least from a singles perspective. Amoongus is a great OU mon even in gen 9, while brute bonnet is sitting as one of the least used UU mons, although with torkoal in the tier this might be subject to change.
I had only seen a tiny low res image of iron juggles and was it was the reason I selected violet over scarlet. I was scammed.
damn i though this was a competitive scene video not a roasting one
You might have to make a call to your boy Viper to take care of Iron Jugulus...
That splash art on the Smogon site just looks like a Doodlebob version of Hydreigon to me
I know it would of been kind of on the nose, but why not just call it Iron Hydra
This thing's name is basically just an innuendo. It may not be good, but it will always be the throat goat
that's why it's not my Secret Weapon
omg this was HILARIOUS, id love to see you tear apart other non-existing pokemon like that xD.
Hey Jim, a cool idea for a video might be to make/doctor an all Hisuian team 🙂
They really should have doubled down on the hydra theme and made its' arm "heads" bigger and more menacing, and lean into the futuristic theme by having the heads be connected to the body with metal pipes, y'know, so it actually fits its namesake of IRON JUGULIS. I don't understand why its' name refers to its necks when if anything emphasis on the necks in the design was turned down.
i like your hatred towards iron jugulis, it sounded very genuine, love it
I won't repeat myself for like the tenth time, so I'll just say thank you Jim for this video.
man, hydreigon got scammed this gen. it would've been perfect for a violet paradox mon, especially since violet only had 6 while scarlet had 7, and all it got was stealth rock in exchange for loosing roost. oh well, at least they didn't ruin it.
I wish they made Iron Jugulis a bulky support special-wall, with access to a lot of status moves and fast too.
I don’t think the dark/flying typing is bad, its just a better defensive typing than offensive, and its clear they didn’t really want to make this thing a broken special attacker like Bundle and Flutter.
Also Iron Jet would have been a better name
The way you feel about Iron Mug- er Jugulis is the EXACT way I feel about 3 Gen 4 travesty evolutions:
Rhyperior: ugly orange roblox fat sack of garbage.
Dusknoir: BUTCHERED monster design that looks like a Fischer-Price Halloween decoration with a stupid yellow antenna for no reason.
Magnezone: Stupid UFO that couldn't even get the colors of Magneton right, and, coincidentally, another stupid yellow antenna for no reason.
Even Gamefreak knows Dusknoir is terrible because Dusclops with an Eviolite is miles better. Granted Magnezone IS actually pretty good in competitive, but that's no excuse to butcher his design.