To be fair to the movie... He was wrong about the characters being introduced once... They were introduced and then the characters had their character sheets read in full before the final battle. It was like a learning experience and probably a cinephials guide to each characters better movie they were taken from. That said... I learned one character name and maybe could say 3 of them by the end but could only pick one from a line-up... Also that guy that died... Is just the guy who died, it felt like the plot barely had anything to do with it either, he would have been shot without joining them and killed the enemy without their cause.
As soon as I watched Rebel Moon, I thought I can't wait for Jonny's commentary. I mean the entire movie was a series of 10 minute monologues reveling each characters entire background and info dumping.
Some commenters say it's basically a "teaser" for upcoming movies/series. Like the Justice League movie, where they drop the heroes first before their own movie coming (Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc)
The biggest gripe I have with this movie is that Korra knows exactly how the new and old Empire work, which implies the only difference between both empires is that she doesn't work for them and that they don't have a royal family. But they behave and operate exactly the same.
Supposedly the Royals were all good and lovely, right? Well it turns out they were war mongers committing genocide and conquering the galaxy! No wonder they were all assassinated😂
True. The previous empire should have been a prosperous, peaceful realm until Balisarious came and turned it to a war machine. Would have make much more sence.
what even funnier is that it worked XD! How in the world was he able to so easily break the glass that is supposed to withstand all the forces that come along with high speed space travel. Not only that, the entire ship could be controlled from what looked like an artillery unit of the ship. Hilarious stuff
The stylistic things you liked from this movie came from the Warhammer 40k universe. The plasma guns, power swords, imperial army, and the cyborg dudes at the end are all just ripped out of the 40k lore.
Almost every franchise borrows from someone else. Originality is just taking inspiration from someone else and making your project as different as possible from the inspiration.
@@josephmayfield945 It’s the truth. WH40k borrows a lot from other IPs as well. And Star Wars borrows from Dune, and Dune borrows from Foundation. That’s how it is.
Imperial armies aren't from 40K. Look up where God Emperor came from. Someone else pointed out Foundation and Dune so maybe start from there before saying something ripped off from 40K. And this is coming from someone who loves 40K, btw.
What bugs me is what happened to the "good" soldier at the beginning... It seemed that there was a story there... I'm afraid that director's cut will be 6 houars long 😰
Very accurate review. I hear people saying it would have been better as a series but I don't think more of a bad thing is good. It's like they think Snyder had enought time! He had two whole movies!
Rebel moon is Star Wars that turned itself into a salad of different things, where the key ingredient included WH40K. As a result, it now doesn't look like Star Wars or anything else.
I was dismayed that the crew wasn't Waif Luke, Hornsbot and Spider lady. The point of Seven Samurai is that they were losers, abused by those who are over them, and exploited by the farmers. This movie could have been sooooo good, and I think that it's that broad distance between potential and result that really hurts.
Yup. The big take away for most people with Seven Samurai is that there were seven of them and they were Samurai... who are badarse warriors, right? The point that most of the ones who die are shot (rather than killed in honourable fights) is lost completely.
The plasma bullets were cool. I think a number of problems which might have been forgiven in a lengthy movie have been thrown into sharp relief by the two chapter approach. Just, why!?!? If it doesn't add, then it takes away. So now we have a stand-alone 2 hour intro, which is too long for the first act, but doesn't go far enough to reveal the good stuff. There's a crazy lens ripple down the side of a spaceship at one point. Weird.
I've been binging and enjoying your videos so much I cant believe you haven't hit 1 million yet. 2024 will be your year I can feel it. Then everyone here can brag that they were here since before 50k.
When I saw Michiel Huisman was in it I 😮was like, okay I'll give it a go. I liked him in The Guernsey Literary & Potato Peel Pie Society, The Ottoman Lieutenant, and The Haunting of Hill House. In Rebel Moon, I feel he was the most likeable character with personality and a chance for growth of the bunch. He at least was given two rescue moments that I counted. His first attempt cost someone their life. So I felt that he was on a "when to be heroic" arc. I understand starting off as inexperienced, I don't want to say cowardly, because he's proven to jump in while others watch. The problem with Snyder's Rebel Moon for me...is too many IPs Frankenstein'd together into a sluggish run-time and an exposition dump that felt like nothing. The Slow-mo is atrocious. Why did it work in Alice in Borderland? Because they used it once when Kuina fought Takatora, and it was effective for that one scene. Just because something worked a few successful times, doesn't guarantee it'll be successful in every story. I wanted a gripping story, not just a pile up of visuals that got dull after the first two Slow-mo shots. And nothing about the world building looked visually appealing. It felt like a Slow-mo fanfic of movies Snyder took inspiration from.
The moment I saw Michiel Huisman's performance in Paul Verhoeven's Dutch movie Black Book that came out in 2006 which was about World War II in The Netherlands I could tell he wasn't a great actor and 17 years later in Rebel Moon he's shown he's still not a very good actor. He's like a lesser version of Jeroen Krabbe who was in The Fugitive and James Bond's The Living Daylights who came to Hollywood with fellow Dutch men Rutger Hauer and Paul Verhoeven in the early 1980s
9:35 Funny you should say that, doing something similar was one of my best achievements too. We were meant to create some sort of “rallying the troops” monologue, I forgot about the assignment until we started getting called up one by one, and I ended up reskinning Sam Jackson’s Pulp Fiction monologue to fit the criteria. Ended up with a 98% and the teacher was impressed I didn’t even use a paper and knew my assignment so well I could recite by heart. 😂
when you did the rant about pretensious directors, does that include "The Lighthouse" in level 3 or is it excluded? Real question because it technically fits but I wouldn't call the Lighthouse pretentious, it's not tacked on randomly it adds to the atmosphere of the movie.
That’s why his whole argument was moot. Most films that are black and white do that for a reason, and it aids the mood the film makers are going for. Take Night of the Living Dead. The Black and White makes it feel more realistic than if it had been in color. Film making is an art form, and styles within a medium should be as varied as possible. You wouldn’t tell a painter that they should only use one style of painting.
@@josephmayfield945 Night of the Living Dead was in black and white because of budget reason not stylistic choice. Most movie of the past were in black and white because colour film wasn't a thing yet, I agree film making is an art form but don't mistake the artist using cheap paints for a stylistic choice.
You got away with redoing Howls Moving Castle. I got caught doing Count of Monte Cristo. Not my best moment. Great review Jonny! Definitely going to see this to satisfy my curiousity, at least now I've got a few things to look out for.
I will say Stephen Kings the mist movie had a color and black and white version. And the black and white one is significantly better because it helps hide the cgi.
Yeah, the black and white makes it feel like a 50’s monster movie. Check out Fury Roads Black and Chrome cut. Both of those film makers originally wanted it in black and white. It’s just a completion of their intended vision.
Am i missing something? Is snyder somehow connected to the Suicide Squad? I get theyre in the dceu but its in no way a part of the snyder verse...right?
Huh? What are the job responsibilities of a director? I thought it would entail directing the actors, the sequences, the cinematography, the editing, and you know....the overall DIRECTION of a film. I guess now that you frame it like that, the direction on Rebel Moon was fantastic. Such a well-directed movie.
The plot is basically Seven Samurai in space. Which is all very well, but when you swap out the bandits for an evil empire, it stops making sense as a plot. There's a reason why bandits don't care about the villagers starving - the bandits are a small group and can just move on. But an empire (or any state, for that matter) need to have reliable supplies. If you go in to villages and simply demand all they have, well, you end up with lots of completely pointless battles. The idea was done much better back in 1978 in 'Message From Space' (AKA Japanese Star Wars). Yes, technically it's based on a different Japanese work, but it's close enough.
Completely unrelated, but your PC setup looks identical to mine. I have the black & stainless steel version of the case though. Love how it shows off the light show and just generally looks great! ✌🏻
The thing is - once the bad soldiers in the village were killed, they didn't have to look for mercenaries anymore. The reason they were looking for mercenaries to defend the village was because they feared they would be wiped out. However, with them dead and having another 9 weeks before the rest come back - they could have easily migrated off to other planets available in that galaxy and simply got themselves absorbed into society since no soldier actually remembers who they are. I mean Kora and her companion were planet hopping with ease all over the galaxy. There is no reason for the villagers to stay and risk their lives fighting alongside mercs. If there was an in-movie reason why they should stay, then fine but none was ever given. Galaxy travel was available but yet they chose to stay and hope they can get mercs to save their collective asses. That's a huge plot hole.
Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven works because the villagers have no way to go, don't want to leave their rice fields and farms. Here, I dunno (I forgot the plot already)
It was also never explained why a village, near a town with spaceships, Robots and Aliens, is still plowing fields with horses and plows, like they did in the 1800's on Earth, or why they have no plumbing and still have to fetch water from the River in buckets. Then there's the cute little water Girl who is harassed by sex starved Soldiers in the middle of the day, so what does she do? She decides to fetch some more water, by herself, at night, and wanders past the sex starved Soldiers !
Yes, but she knew that unarmed Not Rey was around and would easily kill all the bad soldiers because they would literally wait for their respective turns during the fight.
@@bobross1829 Running was never an option because 9 weeks on the horses is equal to about 9 seconds on interplanetary express spacecrafts, that EVERYBODY else has.
You neglected to mention that the story is straight lifted from Akira Kurosaws's ' 7 Samurai ' from 1954. I mean it's pretty much the same, but in space.
It was an "Okay" movie; it just didn't do anything special for me. It was a bit predictable. The clear "star wars, but not" things made it easy to watch it "as if" it were in the Star Wars universe, which gave it a bit more credit than was due to it on its own merit. It FELT more Star Wars than recent Star Wars. (much like Orville feels more like Trek than current Trek.) It would have fared better by breaking that movie up into a series of episodes (given it's on Netflix), while taking the time to flesh out the characters and the world a bit more. Then, once all the main cast were together, they could make a movie set in that universe. I certainly wouldn't have given it the horrible reviews others have had of it... it did have an ending, contrary to most reviews, though not one that people liked, I guess. (on the Snyder note, I don't like or dislike the man, and I liked the Snyder Cut significantly better than the Whedon cut in that debate.)
In short: The TRAILER was better than the entire movie. Coolest character was the Robot voiced by Anthony Hopkins and it didn’t even get that much screen time or dialogue…
I am not a huge Snyder fan, but Sucker Punch is my fave movies he's made. I feel like maybe what happened with his daughter has taken such a toll on him that he needs to maybe take a break and heal. He has to have enough money to take a hiatus, surely? He just seems different since the day that happened. And it's understandable. I hope he takes a break and really gets some healing.
I feel like his healing movie was the director cut of Justice League (watched it, loved it) Army of the Dead was basically his catharsis movie for breaking free from tough studio executives and the burdens of expectations of already existing IPs. Iris can respect him for that, I just won't ever watch that movie cuz I hate zombies. I don't know what to make of rebel moon, but I'll definitely give it a chance once part 2 and the other directors cut come out.
Everything Right with Rebel Moon: it unites critics around the world, every reaction video better than the movie itself. Remember when it was a joke to say "still a better love story than Twilight"? Guess what, Rebel Moon broke that record.
I realize he's using slow mo wrong. Slow mo works well when recalling events as it adds a dream like quality but in the middle of a fight scene it just removes the tension, it shows off the domination of the protagonist too much as it's obvious they're going to prevail.
When it opened with "space v", I literally laughed out loud. I could not believe with all the CGI imagery at their disposal, THAT was what they went with. What the heck?!
It had its moments and I liked it for being different here and there. It is certainly better than all of the Disney Star Wars Movies (except for Rogue One). Still it paints blonde, white men as the villains again which gets a bit old by now. I was kinda hoping "Han Solo" would switch sides by the end, didnt expect them to kill him off like that.
The MAIN thing wrong w/it: we didn't even get to see the ACTUAL movie that was filmed! 🙄 All we saw was the stripped down, edited PG13 version... even thought the movie that was FILMED, was rated R. And whenever studios ask a director to do that for them (so they can make more money or "so the kids can watch too!") IT NEVER TURNS OUT WELL. This is like the 3rd or 4th time that Zack Snyder has had to take an R-rated project & dumb it down for a PG13 audience. He was asked to cut the film & make it shorter, which means we are missing entire scenes that probably added more character development & backstory. And he was also asked to pare down the violence too. So now, every time there is a close-up kill... the camera quickly pans away. It's annoying AF. They should have just allowed him to release the FULL, R-rated Director's Cut instead. We'll be getting THAT version of the movie before part 2 comes out... but how many people will be willing to even give it a chance, after seeing this version here?! This sh*t is very frustrating! Snyder is a laid back, honorable dude & I respect that. But he's gonna HAVE to put his foot down at some point, and tell these studios to either allow him keep his project R-rated or... NO DEAL. I'l tired of seeing this happen.
while i am in genereal with you there is an exception to the black and white transfer: "the mist" is even more bleak and devastating in black and white. also a special case: park chan-wooks revenge trilogy where in it's "directors vision" (synders BS pretty much ruined that term for me, but nonetheless) involves the first film starting in black and white and turn into colour during its runtime and the same thing in reverse for the 3rd film. but as for the snyder cut, there it's just one more gimmick. i am surprised they did not also release a 3D version, a disney ride, a hologram cover DVD, a betmax cassette version and the sundtrack as an 8-track.
The opening was ripped off from Event Horizon, Warhammer 40k , and other shows that show what traveling through a spacial fold or vortex would look like. That spider lady looked like Alice Krige almost. The BORG Queen from Star Trek.
As I watched, I kept wondering if it was in the Star Wars universe. Sure sign it's ripped off some source material. But even with her elite training, I couldn't stop laughing as this 110lb woman took out a whole troop of armed and elite trained men that were each twice her size. 😂
Theres at least 2 shots during that fight where no one is near her, and the dude holding the other girl is in frame and has a clear shot at her, doesnt shoot. Movie is garbage
@@theunknowncommenter725Apparently, it was actually the opposite. Zack Snyder pitched it to Disney as an R rated Star Wars movie, but they rejected it. So apparently Kathleen Kennedy didn’t want to work with Snyder.
I felt watching it that it also tried to rip off some of the Warhammer 40k universe, especially since the bad guys are very close in aesthetic to the Astra Militarum and the whole "warp" effect from the vagina at the beginning.
@6:04 you missed it, they wanted to include the blind/seeing impaired so they made it blurry for the sake of inclusion. lol btw whats with every hack talentless writer, borrowing or copying the past to pretend to make something new.
Also 80% of this movie are out of focus and we are using slow motion in scenes that already have slow motion. Remember when Snyder used slow mo for specific parts of fights but also let them be fast in others? Yeah now basically the slow motion is just used seemingly at random. Some slow mo shots you're just asking "why here?" For example the scene you showed where she was hiding behind the wall. Why was there slow motion? If you showed how quickly and how many shots hit the wall it could build suspense but a few slow mo shots isn't that intense. If some of the shots penetrated the wall and almost hit her it would work as well or if there was no wall and the shots flew past her. Overall many of the fights haven't actually that much going on to warant a lot of the slow mo and that makes it feel even more out of place because if it wasn't there the pacing of the fights would feel a lot better altough they would be a bit to short in that case.
This is the literal reason why I honestly think Synder is not a good director or writer. He's only written directed 1 thing I looked. 300. Everything else has been forgettable or plain bad
The two Grunts with exaggerated Afrikaans accents gave me some weird PTSD. 😂 They immediately made an impact for me, coz their type of sleazy tough attitude is some shit I've experienced personally!!!
My thing is, if this was originally intended to be a star wars film, why is it literally just star wars episode 4 Was it unironically supposed to be a recast of a new hope and not an original story in the star wars universe?
So it looks like they got Charlie Hunnam to play Jax Teller to play Han Solo aka Kai... and the Spider alien reminded me of the Borg Queen with a carapace... 🕷🕷
This movie failed at its most important task: getting the audience invested. All of the characters were generic, heartless, and cliche with no development or background that inspired me to care about them. Who cares if a film looks good if it isn’t engaging in the first place?
After watching your commentary I would have to say you enjoyed it more than I did. There was not one original plot idea. Even Cora’s back story or whatever her name is is a ripoff of Gamora from Guardians of the Galaxy and her connection to Thanos. It is the exact same story.
my first thought her backstory is ripp off and confuse!. How about her planet get attack but the mother planet fleet save them.. The General see her as replacement or see courage or prophocy not like shoot me in the head! WTF. Ok you take a love and this forced on them as if they lose it in wars it will fuel to thei anger for revange and winning:
I read that there is apparently an R Rated Cut which will be released soon and that was the movie that the director wanted to come out but they didn't let him.
He said Netflix didn't tell him no. He probably made 2 versions because he expected a 3.5 hour blood and sex cut of the movie wouldn't have as many viewers.
Nah, he probably just made this one, said there is final cut out there, reading comment about his mistake and plot hole and youtube, then shot his additional scene based on how people react on the comment
Yeah bad movies always get better when you tack on another 1.5 hours. This movie just needs another 90 minutes of runtime to fix the writing, directing, acting, cinematography, music, themes, tone, art-style, and plot.
I watched ready to slate it. It wasnt great but wasnt as bad as i expected. Far better than the drivel Marvel has been churning out lately. Not a classic , but watchable IMHO.
Only one thing wrong with it really. That bit at the beginning that went on until the end
😂😂 you had me there for a minute.
That pretty much covers it 🤣
I love the part when she sniffs the manure in the beginning as a nod to what we are about to watch.
@@EternalGaze8 🤣🤣
Yup, epic foreshadowing...
To be fair to the movie... He was wrong about the characters being introduced once... They were introduced and then the characters had their character sheets read in full before the final battle.
It was like a learning experience and probably a cinephials guide to each characters better movie they were taken from.
That said... I learned one character name and maybe could say 3 of them by the end but could only pick one from a line-up... Also that guy that died... Is just the guy who died, it felt like the plot barely had anything to do with it either, he would have been shot without joining them and killed the enemy without their cause.
As soon as I watched Rebel Moon, I thought I can't wait for Jonny's commentary. I mean the entire movie was a series of 10 minute monologues reveling each characters entire background and info dumping.
Some commenters say it's basically a "teaser" for upcoming movies/series. Like the Justice League movie, where they drop the heroes first before their own movie coming (Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc)
@@r3dr4te963I still think that this movie is better than Bvs
If you liked that, you'll love Auralnauts' interpretation of the Snyder cut of A New Hope.
_I believe the only thing Zach Snyder should direct is the parking lot at the bingo hall._
I'll never not laugh at how a reviewer opens up a review by telling you how little he trusts these reviewers that review a movie.
The biggest gripe I have with this movie is that Korra knows exactly how the new and old Empire work, which implies the only difference between both empires is that she doesn't work for them and that they don't have a royal family. But they behave and operate exactly the same.
Supposedly the Royals were all good and lovely, right? Well it turns out they were war mongers committing genocide and conquering the galaxy! No wonder they were all assassinated😂
True. The previous empire should have been a prosperous, peaceful realm until Balisarious came and turned it to a war machine. Would have make much more sence.
Well you see, before they were bloodthirsty and ruthless, but now they’re ruthless and bloodthirsty.
Unacceptable.
Also that one guy who died whose name think was bloodass or something, CHARGED A SPACESHIP WITH A SPEAR
What were they thinking
In the next movie, we will see the Imperial ships ambushed by space Indians , shooting bows, while riding space horses ...in space !
TITUS!!
@@scratchy996 Don't be ridiculous. Star Wars already did that with Return of the Jedi and Rise of Skywalker. lol
@@nichoudhaYeah, but they were not directly shooting bows at starships in slooooowww mooooo....
what even funnier is that it worked XD! How in the world was he able to so easily break the glass that is supposed to withstand all the forces that come along with high speed space travel. Not only that, the entire ship could be controlled from what looked like an artillery unit of the ship. Hilarious stuff
The stylistic things you liked from this movie came from the Warhammer 40k universe. The plasma guns, power swords, imperial army, and the cyborg dudes at the end are all just ripped out of the 40k lore.
Almost every franchise borrows from someone else. Originality is just taking inspiration from someone else and making your project as different as possible from the inspiration.
@@themanofshadowsnice try 😂
@@josephmayfield945 It’s the truth. WH40k borrows a lot from other IPs as well. And Star Wars borrows from Dune, and Dune borrows from Foundation. That’s how it is.
Imperial armies aren't from 40K. Look up where God Emperor came from. Someone else pointed out Foundation and Dune so maybe start from there before saying something ripped off from 40K. And this is coming from someone who loves 40K, btw.
As if warhammer 40k is original...dune copycat
What bugs me is what happened to the "good" soldier at the beginning...
It seemed that there was a story there...
I'm afraid that director's cut will be 6 houars long 😰
Very accurate review. I hear people saying it would have been better as a series but I don't think more of a bad thing is good. It's like they think Snyder had enought time! He had two whole movies!
Rebel moon is Star Wars that turned itself into a salad of different things, where the key ingredient included WH40K. As a result, it now doesn't look like Star Wars or anything else.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the space va-jay-jay.
Gave you a sub mate, you've probably become a new favourite reviewer because you're funny as hell 😂
Yup he is a good laugh
A fight scene set to "I'm Turning Japanese" could be fun
"Yup. That's definitely the sun." 😳💀
I was dismayed that the crew wasn't Waif Luke, Hornsbot and Spider lady. The point of Seven Samurai is that they were losers, abused by those who are over them, and exploited by the farmers. This movie could have been sooooo good, and I think that it's that broad distance between potential and result that really hurts.
Yup. The big take away for most people with Seven Samurai is that there were seven of them and they were Samurai... who are badarse warriors, right?
The point that most of the ones who die are shot (rather than killed in honourable fights) is lost completely.
@@mudcrab3420 And they were hungry.
13:51 The best part of the entire movie. Hamburglar's Bully Maguire scream should be framed in a museum XD
I will 100% be seeing Godzilla minus 1 minus color if it is in my area. It looks amazing.
for me was the movie of the year
If you want to see bad filmmaking, watch Rubble Moon.
If you want to see great filmmaking, watch Godzilla Minus One.
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I always forget minus one is the tile and not the average rating of the movie
I don't understand that in an age of color people want to see a black and white movie. Wtf??
The plasma bullets were cool. I think a number of problems which might have been forgiven in a lengthy movie have been thrown into sharp relief by the two chapter approach. Just, why!?!? If it doesn't add, then it takes away. So now we have a stand-alone 2 hour intro, which is too long for the first act, but doesn't go far enough to reveal the good stuff.
There's a crazy lens ripple down the side of a spaceship at one point. Weird.
I've been binging and enjoying your videos so much I cant believe you haven't hit 1 million yet. 2024 will be your year I can feel it. Then everyone here can brag that they were here since before 50k.
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I HOPE YOU HAD A SUN FILTER, DUDE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why was this taken down the first time?
When I saw Michiel Huisman was in it I 😮was like, okay I'll give it a go. I liked him in The Guernsey Literary & Potato Peel Pie Society, The Ottoman Lieutenant, and The Haunting of Hill House. In Rebel Moon, I feel he was the most likeable character with personality and a chance for growth of the bunch. He at least was given two rescue moments that I counted. His first attempt cost someone their life. So I felt that he was on a "when to be heroic" arc. I understand starting off as inexperienced, I don't want to say cowardly, because he's proven to jump in while others watch. The problem with Snyder's Rebel Moon for me...is too many IPs Frankenstein'd together into a sluggish run-time and an exposition dump that felt like nothing. The Slow-mo is atrocious. Why did it work in Alice in Borderland? Because they used it once when Kuina fought Takatora, and it was effective for that one scene. Just because something worked a few successful times, doesn't guarantee it'll be successful in every story. I wanted a gripping story, not just a pile up of visuals that got dull after the first two Slow-mo shots. And nothing about the world building looked visually appealing. It felt like a Slow-mo fanfic of movies Snyder took inspiration from.
The moment I saw Michiel Huisman's performance in Paul Verhoeven's Dutch movie Black Book that came out in 2006 which was about World War II in The Netherlands I could tell he wasn't a great actor and 17 years later in Rebel Moon he's shown he's still not a very good actor. He's like a lesser version of Jeroen Krabbe who was in The Fugitive and James Bond's The Living Daylights who came to Hollywood with fellow Dutch men Rutger Hauer and Paul Verhoeven in the early 1980s
Yeah Huisman is decent - as well as GoT, I saw him in "Treme"...great series (by creators of The Wire). But even good actors have to eat I guess 🤷♂
9:35 Funny you should say that, doing something similar was one of my best achievements too. We were meant to create some sort of “rallying the troops” monologue, I forgot about the assignment until we started getting called up one by one, and I ended up reskinning Sam Jackson’s Pulp Fiction monologue to fit the criteria. Ended up with a 98% and the teacher was impressed I didn’t even use a paper and knew my assignment so well I could recite by heart. 😂
when you did the rant about pretensious directors, does that include "The Lighthouse" in level 3 or is it excluded?
Real question because it technically fits but I wouldn't call the Lighthouse pretentious, it's not tacked on randomly it adds to the atmosphere of the movie.
That’s why his whole argument was moot.
Most films that are black and white do that for a reason, and it aids the mood the film makers are going for.
Take Night of the Living Dead.
The Black and White makes it feel more realistic than if it had been in color.
Film making is an art form, and styles within a medium should be as varied as possible.
You wouldn’t tell a painter that they should only use one style of painting.
@@josephmayfield945 Night of the Living Dead was in black and white because of budget reason not stylistic choice.
Most movie of the past were in black and white because colour film wasn't a thing yet, I agree film making is an art form but don't mistake the artist using cheap paints for a stylistic choice.
Godzilla minus 1 minus color was actually pretty good and made the monster look more menacing
Happy new year BTW.
Back at you mate, all the best ✌️
You got away with redoing Howls Moving Castle. I got caught doing Count of Monte Cristo. Not my best moment.
Great review Jonny! Definitely going to see this to satisfy my curiousity, at least now I've got a few things to look out for.
Waaaait... Im absolutely sure I already watched this video yesterday... But now we have its premiere??? Whats going on?
I saw it about a week ago. But I'll watch it again 😂
Jonny deserves more subs, and I hope 2024 is the year he gets them.
I will say Stephen Kings the mist movie had a color and black and white version. And the black and white one is significantly better because it helps hide the cgi.
Yeah, the black and white makes it feel like a 50’s monster movie.
Check out Fury Roads Black and Chrome cut.
Both of those film makers originally wanted it in black and white. It’s just a completion of their intended vision.
Am i missing something? Is snyder somehow connected to the Suicide Squad? I get theyre in the dceu but its in no way a part of the snyder verse...right?
He's not a talentless hack. He's just a talentless writer. He's skilled as a director... *as a director.*
Huh? What are the job responsibilities of a director? I thought it would entail directing the actors, the sequences, the cinematography, the editing, and you know....the overall DIRECTION of a film.
I guess now that you frame it like that, the direction on Rebel Moon was fantastic. Such a well-directed movie.
You mean poorly skilled as a director.
@@scratchy996 Did I?😏
He’s good at directing imagery - that’s it.
Everything else as a director he fails at.
@@josephmayfield945 I don't know about that either, his last decade he only did shitty looking movies. The guy didn't evolve since 2006.
Brah happy new year this year we must reach 100k subs
Good way to start the year, with good entertainment! Thanks JL.
This is the second time he uploaded this.
@@MAGAMAN Yes, i know, i watched the first time as well.
The 'Stairway to heaven' bit was great. You're good! 👏
“Yep. That’s definitely the sun.” Best ad read. 10/10
The plot is basically Seven Samurai in space. Which is all very well, but when you swap out the bandits for an evil empire, it stops making sense as a plot. There's a reason why bandits don't care about the villagers starving - the bandits are a small group and can just move on. But an empire (or any state, for that matter) need to have reliable supplies. If you go in to villages and simply demand all they have, well, you end up with lots of completely pointless battles.
The idea was done much better back in 1978 in 'Message From Space' (AKA Japanese Star Wars). Yes, technically it's based on a different Japanese work, but it's close enough.
Wait... are there both actors of Daario Naharis in the same movie?
Yup
It would probably work better in B&W with a 4:3 aspect ratio.
"You probably wear a scarf in the summertime" killed me :))
Completely unrelated, but your PC setup looks identical to mine. I have the black & stainless steel version of the case though. Love how it shows off the light show and just generally looks great! ✌🏻
Now Im just saying, Blade Runner in black and white got somethin goin on.
Happy New Year Jonny Law !!! Wish you posted more often, but I appreciate all of your work. You're very funny and I like your sarcasm.
1:29 I was expecting *_"yepp, that's Uranus"_*
The thing is - once the bad soldiers in the village were killed, they didn't have to look for mercenaries anymore. The reason they were looking for mercenaries to defend the village was because they feared they would be wiped out. However, with them dead and having another 9 weeks before the rest come back - they could have easily migrated off to other planets available in that galaxy and simply got themselves absorbed into society since no soldier actually remembers who they are.
I mean Kora and her companion were planet hopping with ease all over the galaxy. There is no reason for the villagers to stay and risk their lives fighting alongside mercs. If there was an in-movie reason why they should stay, then fine but none was ever given. Galaxy travel was available but yet they chose to stay and hope they can get mercs to save their collective asses. That's a huge plot hole.
Yes. Good point! Running was never given as a legit choice and it would seem to be one in this case.
Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven works because the villagers have no way to go, don't want to leave their rice fields and farms. Here, I dunno (I forgot the plot already)
It was also never explained why a village, near a town with spaceships, Robots and Aliens, is still plowing fields with horses and plows, like they did in the 1800's on Earth, or why they have no plumbing and still have to fetch water from the River in buckets.
Then there's the cute little water Girl who is harassed by sex starved Soldiers in the middle of the day, so what does she do? She decides to fetch some more water, by herself, at night, and wanders past the sex starved Soldiers !
Yes, but she knew that unarmed Not Rey was around and would easily kill all the bad soldiers because they would literally wait for their respective turns during the fight.
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Running was never an option because 9 weeks on the horses is equal to about 9 seconds on interplanetary express spacecrafts, that EVERYBODY else has.
I really like widescreen films. I like the black bars on top and bottom for some reason. I like the way it frames everything.
You neglected to mention that the story is straight lifted from Akira Kurosaws's ' 7 Samurai ' from 1954. I mean it's pretty much the same, but in space.
Keep in mind, its chopped for a R13 movie.. its not complete yet..
It was an "Okay" movie; it just didn't do anything special for me. It was a bit predictable. The clear "star wars, but not" things made it easy to watch it "as if" it were in the Star Wars universe, which gave it a bit more credit than was due to it on its own merit. It FELT more Star Wars than recent Star Wars. (much like Orville feels more like Trek than current Trek.)
It would have fared better by breaking that movie up into a series of episodes (given it's on Netflix), while taking the time to flesh out the characters and the world a bit more. Then, once all the main cast were together, they could make a movie set in that universe.
I certainly wouldn't have given it the horrible reviews others have had of it... it did have an ending, contrary to most reviews, though not one that people liked, I guess.
(on the Snyder note, I don't like or dislike the man, and I liked the Snyder Cut significantly better than the Whedon cut in that debate.)
Jonathan Law!
Happy new year to you and that savage Mootash of yours my guy!
In short: The TRAILER was better than the entire movie.
Coolest character was the Robot voiced by Anthony Hopkins and it didn’t even get that much screen time or dialogue…
Missed opportunity
I am not a huge Snyder fan, but Sucker Punch is my fave movies he's made. I feel like maybe what happened with his daughter has taken such a toll on him that he needs to maybe take a break and heal. He has to have enough money to take a hiatus, surely? He just seems different since the day that happened. And it's understandable. I hope he takes a break and really gets some healing.
I feel like his healing movie was the director cut of Justice League (watched it, loved it)
Army of the Dead was basically his catharsis movie for breaking free from tough studio executives and the burdens of expectations of already existing IPs. Iris can respect him for that, I just won't ever watch that movie cuz I hate zombies.
I don't know what to make of rebel moon, but I'll definitely give it a chance once part 2 and the other directors cut come out.
Tf happened to his daughter? Jesus Christ
SuckerPunch? Da F is wrong with you dude…. Myso pervert
@@k7l3rworkman97wtf???
@@k7l3rworkman97she committed suicide
Everything Right with Rebel Moon: it unites critics around the world, every reaction video better than the movie itself. Remember when it was a joke to say "still a better love story than Twilight"? Guess what, Rebel Moon broke that record.
Congratz on 40k subs, johnny. I remember when I first began to follow your career with great interest at 18 k subs (I still haven't subbed tho)
"yep, that's the sun" - Fucking slayed me, Jonny, Bravo!
Hello there, Im a bit of a JL fan myself
I realize he's using slow mo wrong. Slow mo works well when recalling events as it adds a dream like quality but in the middle of a fight scene it just removes the tension, it shows off the domination of the protagonist too much as it's obvious they're going to prevail.
When it opened with "space v", I literally laughed out loud. I could not believe with all the CGI imagery at their disposal, THAT was what they went with. What the heck?!
It had its moments and I liked it for being different here and there. It is certainly better than all of the Disney Star Wars Movies (except for Rogue One). Still it paints blonde, white men as the villains again which gets a bit old by now. I was kinda hoping "Han Solo" would switch sides by the end, didnt expect them to kill him off like that.
The Disney Star Wars Movies , including Rogue One are pure garbage, but they are high art compared to this crap.
I did notice that the soundtrack kept trying to become the Wonder Woman theme when the MC started battling.
I really enjoy your reviews and commentary!!
The MAIN thing wrong w/it: we didn't even get to see the ACTUAL movie that was filmed! 🙄 All we saw was the stripped down, edited PG13 version... even thought the movie that was FILMED, was rated R. And whenever studios ask a director to do that for them (so they can make more money or "so the kids can watch too!") IT NEVER TURNS OUT WELL.
This is like the 3rd or 4th time that Zack Snyder has had to take an R-rated project & dumb it down for a PG13 audience. He was asked to cut the film & make it shorter, which means we are missing entire scenes that probably added more character development & backstory. And he was also asked to pare down the violence too. So now, every time there is a close-up kill... the camera quickly pans away. It's annoying AF.
They should have just allowed him to release the FULL, R-rated Director's Cut instead. We'll be getting THAT version of the movie before part 2 comes out... but how many people will be willing to even give it a chance, after seeing this version here?!
This sh*t is very frustrating! Snyder is a laid back, honorable dude & I respect that. But he's gonna HAVE to put his foot down at some point, and tell these studios to either allow him keep his project R-rated or... NO DEAL. I'l tired of seeing this happen.
"The True Grain was The Grain We Harvested Along The Way"
-Jaimie "Fook*n" Lannistah
while i am in genereal with you there is an exception to the black and white transfer: "the mist" is even more bleak and devastating in black and white. also a special case: park chan-wooks revenge trilogy where in it's "directors vision" (synders BS pretty much ruined that term for me, but nonetheless) involves the first film starting in black and white and turn into colour during its runtime and the same thing in reverse for the 3rd film.
but as for the snyder cut, there it's just one more gimmick. i am surprised they did not also release a 3D version, a disney ride, a hologram cover DVD, a betmax cassette version and the sundtrack as an 8-track.
Why doesn't Snyder hire a DP?
You forgot Titus, but that's understandable. Even Snyder forgot about him.
Bro the thumbnail had me WEAK 😂😂💀
Jonny: "Me, I'm somewhere in the middle."
So, you think he's a visionary hack?
Precisely ☝🏻
The opening was ripped off from Event Horizon, Warhammer 40k , and other shows that show what traveling through a spacial fold or vortex would look like. That spider lady looked like Alice Krige almost. The BORG Queen from Star Trek.
This is a remake of Roger Corman’s “Battle Beyond the Stars,” the original Seven Samurai in Space.
Don’t know why… but I laughed hard at the “yup… that’s the sun”
As I watched, I kept wondering if it was in the Star Wars universe. Sure sign it's ripped off some source material. But even with her elite training, I couldn't stop laughing as this 110lb woman took out a whole troop of armed and elite trained men that were each twice her size. 😂
Typical 'wait my turn to lose' fight choreography
Theres at least 2 shots during that fight where no one is near her, and the dude holding the other girl is in frame and has a clear shot at her, doesnt shoot. Movie is garbage
Honest it is far better! at least she use gun and sword aven throw sand to blind them...i think better than other fight
It was originally written to be a Star Wars movie, but the Star Wars elements were taken out of it because who wants to work with Kathleen Kennedy?
@@theunknowncommenter725Apparently, it was actually the opposite. Zack Snyder pitched it to Disney as an R rated Star Wars movie, but they rejected it. So apparently Kathleen Kennedy didn’t want to work with Snyder.
Nice Moustache! It's come in quite well.
I even luv your ads, nice 1 Jonny.
Your review movie channel stills the best for my opinion. I like the humorous sarcasm you put in it. Thank you Mr. Lawé
I'm sort of curious, whats better (or worse), Rebel Moon, or the Star Wars sequals (ignoring the franchise wrecking nature of them).
I felt watching it that it also tried to rip off some of the Warhammer 40k universe, especially since the bad guys are very close in aesthetic to the Astra Militarum and the whole "warp" effect from the vagina at the beginning.
You spent almost as much time introducing Djimon Honsou’s Roman general character as the movie did.
@6:04 you missed it, they wanted to include the blind/seeing impaired so they made it blurry for the sake of inclusion. lol btw whats with every hack talentless writer, borrowing or copying the past to pretend to make something new.
Happy New Year Jonny Law!
i wasn't going to subscribe to this channel but the surprise BUMDER clip compelled me 😂
Just subbed and going through your videos. I’ve been missing out!
Also 80% of this movie are out of focus and we are using slow motion in scenes that already have slow motion. Remember when Snyder used slow mo for specific parts of fights but also let them be fast in others? Yeah now basically the slow motion is just used seemingly at random. Some slow mo shots you're just asking "why here?" For example the scene you showed where she was hiding behind the wall. Why was there slow motion? If you showed how quickly and how many shots hit the wall it could build suspense but a few slow mo shots isn't that intense. If some of the shots penetrated the wall and almost hit her it would work as well or if there was no wall and the shots flew past her. Overall many of the fights haven't actually that much going on to warant a lot of the slow mo and that makes it feel even more out of place because if it wasn't there the pacing of the fights would feel a lot better altough they would be a bit to short in that case.
This is the literal reason why I honestly think Synder is not a good director or writer.
He's only written directed 1 thing I looked. 300. Everything else has been forgettable or plain bad
If you think Sucker Punch is a bad movie you shouldn't be allowed in the streets without adult supervision.
@@rubenoteiza9261 I think it's passable but not great. Just decent. Can't rewatch it.
The two Grunts with exaggerated Afrikaans accents gave me some weird PTSD. 😂 They immediately made an impact for me, coz their type of sleazy tough attitude is some shit I've experienced personally!!!
My thing is, if this was originally intended to be a star wars film, why is it literally just star wars episode 4
Was it unironically supposed to be a recast of a new hope and not an original story in the star wars universe?
I think Games Workshop should sue Snyder tbh
So it looks like they got Charlie Hunnam to play Jax Teller to play Han Solo aka Kai... and the Spider alien reminded me of the Borg Queen with a carapace... 🕷🕷
B&W Mad Max Fury Road is pretty good - well worth the watch/rewatch.
This movie failed at its most important task: getting the audience invested. All of the characters were generic, heartless, and cliche with no development or background that inspired me to care about them. Who cares if a film looks good if it isn’t engaging in the first place?
After watching your commentary I would have to say you enjoyed it more than I did. There was not one original plot idea. Even Cora’s back story or whatever her name is is a ripoff of Gamora from Guardians of the Galaxy and her connection to Thanos. It is the exact same story.
my first thought her backstory is ripp off and confuse!. How about her planet get attack but the mother planet fleet save them.. The General see her as replacement or see courage or prophocy not like shoot me in the head! WTF. Ok you take a love and this forced on them as if they lose it in wars it will fuel to thei anger for revange and winning:
I read that there is apparently an R Rated Cut which will be released soon and that was the movie that the director wanted to come out but they didn't let him.
He said Netflix didn't tell him no. He probably made 2 versions because he expected a 3.5 hour blood and sex cut of the movie wouldn't have as many viewers.
no one believes that. He's double dipping...he's addicted to the Snyder Cut cult hype, that's his schtick
@@martymarl4602 I don't understand the hype for a director that never seems to get a decent movie on the first try.
Nah, he probably just made this one, said there is final cut out there, reading comment about his mistake and plot hole and youtube, then shot his additional scene based on how people react on the comment
Yeah bad movies always get better when you tack on another 1.5 hours. This movie just needs another 90 minutes of runtime to fix the writing, directing, acting, cinematography, music, themes, tone, art-style, and plot.
5:00 Level four is totally unnecessary slo-mo. Check!
Really liked it. My fave scene it was between the droid and the girl. Touching
Edit: you're very petty
I watched ready to slate it. It wasnt great but wasnt as bad as i expected. Far better than the drivel Marvel has been churning out lately.
Not a classic , but watchable IMHO.
They went to a cloud city and they got sold out by a smuggler. So original.
Rebel Moon was also filmed ĺeading audiences into a immersive video game narrative.
4:30 *Me nervously sweating at my intention of watching Godzilla Minus One in black & white*
It would probably look rad in black and white.
'The most emotionally stable Twitter user' - damn.
Ok, that Twitter user joke was pretty good