I recall Rogers & Hammerstein music from the sixties and recall now my mother, who recently passed at 100 January 2023, but only just heard this beautiful waltz about 8 years ago.
I grew up with songs and music from Richard Rogers and Oscar Hammerstein (Carousel, South Pacific, The King and I, Oklahoma) and have always held these close to my heart ...beautiful and enduring.
Ohhhhhh, you are soooo right....as soon as I saw your post, I wanted to thank YOU for loving this waltz as much as I do. I made handmade programs as a girl inviting my parents to watch me dance to it, And I still can't help but dance to it like now!!!! I'm so grateful for your music appreciation and for having shared it!!!!
I'm also listening to the damn thing every day, and when I'm not listening to it, it's playing in my head. I want to say, "Eat your heart out, Tchaikovsky!" - because this is as brilliant as anything he ever wrote.
Carousel was the Spring musical production of my very talented High School classmates back in 1961, and when they realized that they were a couple of big strong “extras” short, me and a couple guys from the football team were recruited to fill the roles. For this opening waltz overture, Mr. Pioli, the director, told me to “go over there, grab that blonde-haired skinny little girl and twirl her around the stage” in a lovey-dovey way to the wonderful music. And who do you think the cute blonde little girl was?? None other than Goldie Hawn… so dancing with Goldie to the Carousel Waltz will always be a most memorable experience for me in life…
In 1979, Akron (Ohio) University's Summer Stock preformed the whole musical. I was in the cast and the opening night I was introduced to the man who became my husband. This year we'll will have been married 44 yrs! Needless to say i have a real soft spot for this music 🎶❣️🎶
They knock it out of the park! This is the best version I've ever heard. It captures the mystery and the dark, shadowy quality in the music. The buildup is tremendous! I love the percussive effects like xylophone and triangle to give it that tinkly circus/merry-go-round sound, missing in almost all other performances.
You’d also enjoy the percussion effects (coming in at about 4 mins and 9 secs) in both the 1993 & 1994 recordings of the Broadway revival…the 1993 is faster at that point, and the 1994 is slower…but it really draws out the theme in that section!…they imaginatively seem to simulate the feeling and effect of a real carousel band organ. As long as we’re at it, there are versions of the waltz on You Tube which can be heard in their arrangements for an actual Wurlitzer 165 Band Organ, plus some interesting “pianola” versions as well! 🎠🎪
I've loved the Carousel Waltz from the moment I heard it, years ago when I was a child. It was the theme music for a weekly program on a local radio station so long ago in my hometown. Every Thursday night at 9 pm, I'd tune in to hear just the few measures that began the program. And now! How exciting to be able to hear this excellent performance-- anytime I want--on UA-cam! And I have to add that John Wilson is always so fascinating and fun to watch as he directs his orchestra!!
I've often thought that Richard Rodgers wrote 16 of the greatest waltzes of the 20th century. And as I said in my own note (above) this night, this was his greatest musical achievement.
No, a certain type of musical died; though the fallout from this has been profound. It is more than likely that a musical such a Carousel could no longer be written, no matter the existence of talented creators. The culture that made it possible exists no longer.
One of Rogers and Hammerstein's best compositions to be for sure. Our band, the Lake Charles Community Band (we're here on UA-cam), did a Rogers and Hammerstein tribute at one of our concerts not long ago. Hearing it again, this time with the STRINGS of a complete orchestra gives me chills. Our band has no strings (those violin parts are covered by the woodwinds), so we can't be called an orchestra. Besides, it's an composed of an entirely voluntary membership, as our members are not paid. We just do it for the enjoyment, and it's a blast!
We'll never know how this would sound if playwright Franz Molnár would accept offers from Puccini and Gerschwin or Kurt Weill for writing the score for his play Liliom, that formed the basis of Carousel. He rejected Puccini, saying: "I want Liliom to be remembered as a play by Molnár and not as a libretto for a Puccini opera". But history knows not any what ifs. Instead, we should be so grateful he gave the rights to Rodgers and Hammerstein. They produced the best musical score existing by far.
i'm 29. for as long as i can remember, i've had a music box with a carousel horse on it with a tiny tune in it. no one remembers who gave it to me, and i don't know exactly why i cry every time i listen to it. but i only found out today that this little, played on a 70 tooth cylinder, was this. i'm going to be doing more research on this musical and mr rogers. it brings me to tears with such strong emotion and i don't even know why... it was beautiful listening to it in its entirety.
" If music is the food of love, play on...." ! One never tires of beautiful music because there is only beauty and joy from those compositions and masterpieces !
Wonderful and brilliant. Rodger's greatness is forever enshrined in the "Big Five" musicals with Oscar Hammerstein. It can also be found in his earlier works with Larry Hart and strong veins of it in Flower Drum Song (stage), State Fair (Film) and Cinderella (TV).
I was a sophomore in high school when I auditioned and was cast as Carrie Pipperidge, Julie's best friend in Carousel. It was my first leading role in a musical! I remember waiting backstage for my entrance, my heart pounding, as I listened to this enchanting music. That is the moment I fell in love with musical theatre. I am transported back in time everytime I hear this amazing music. Will always love Rogers and Hammerstein.
While Richard Rogers composed all these wonderful songs, it was Robert Russell Bennett , who arranged all the orchestra parts for every Rogers and Hammerstein musical, and the Victory at Sea documentary (which clocked in at 13 1/2 hours of music from 27 half-hour programs). Bennett took 12 piano themes by Mr Rogers and added much original music to get the job done. So the music that everyone hears and remembers with such fondness is at least half due to Mr Bennett's command of orchestration. He deserved far more credit for his brilliant work.
This is just Pure JOY!! It was Rodgers favorite and these new orchestrations are performed BEAUTIFULLY by this Amazing Orchestra. Of the many versions I've explored This is now very Favorite. John Maucieri would be 2nd on the great CD called "OPENING NIGHT" consisting of R & H overtures. Check it out also. B R A V O!!!!👏👏
@@johntlew I think you're correct in your comment, but I still have to say that the JOY and ENERGY of this performance, to me, makes it seem BRAND NEW! Also I was still early in my discovery phase of The AMAZING GENIOUS of JOHN WILSON and HIS BAND OF MUSICAL MERRYMAKERS! For me personally they have gotten me through - Probably _ the worst year and a half of this Aging Music Man's life!! Thanks for taking the time to comment though.🎹🎼🎶🎵🎵🎶🎹😄
A magnificent orchestra + a magnificent Maestro= an absolutely brilliant masterpiece!! But I expected nothing less from The BBC Proms! This Carousel Waltz sents chills through me!!
I have always loved this musical with all the music.The opening overture is so beautiful and it puts you in such a great mood when the curtain rises and the show actually begins.Love It!!
The greatest overture -- that isn't actually an overture! It doesn't quote a single one of the songs you're about to hear when the curtain rises. Yet it is still Richard Rodgers' greatest waltz. Which is saying something. My favorite composer (by my reckoning) wrote 16 of the 20 greatest waltzes of the previous century. Just had to say, love your note, Ken FREEMAN. (Posted one of my own this night)
@@MarkBlackburnWPG It isn't the "medley overture" that's traditional in Broadway musicals of the classic period but it is an overture all the same. It's the first piece of music you hear in Carousel, and it happens before the play itself begins. It functions as an overture.
I'm so lucky! I have a single ticket to go and see them at the Royal Albert Hall on 11th August. Having lived in France for many years, promised myself on my return to England that I would go one day....so excited, such a wonderful orchestra.
Simply the best live concerts with the greatest symphonic orchestra in the world. Ask any great artist who ever went to London to record. It was known for decades as (Canadian-born) Robert Farnon personal orchestra (Bob's Band) as when he conducted his arrangements for Sinatra's only studio recording (1962) outside America, Great Songs From Great Britain. If you don't own that one, you're in for a treat. Every important singer of note since then has wanted to record with London philharmonic or symphony musicians. Case in point: this video. Wow! Thanks for your comment, Patricia Lavender.
Thanks for the informed note, Philip Croft -- which gives us the name I was hoping to read here: John Wilson conducting the "greatest orchestra in the world." For decades that's been the simple truth. For decades too it was "Bob's Band" -- Canadian born Robert Farnon who arranged Sinatra's only studio album, Great Songs from Great Britain and who is acknowledged as the most influential arranger, by all the other great arrangers of the 20th century. Yes, London symphony and philharmonic musicians. To this day, the go-to orchestra(s) for all great singers.
I believe that despite this being the overture to the movie, none of the music is ever used again. What a glorious,full orchestral sound! For me brings back going to the Montana state fair with the noise, music, sawdust on the ground, bright lights, and the sheer joy of being a kid at the fair again on a hot summer night!!
Thanks for the informed note, Tom Kuwahara -- yes, the greatest overture -- that isn't really an overture (not quoting from a single song the audience is about to hear). My favorite composer's favorite waltz (by my reckoning Rodgers wrote 16 of the 20 best waltzes of the previous century). Rodgers & Hammerstein's personal favorite of their many great shows. Please see a note I posted this night (above).
Your note is so perfectly evocative. You've conveyed to us so much emotion, in so few words. Thanks for your notes here, Tom Kuwahara. Posted a note of my own (above) and had to compliment a kindred spirit on this one. -- Mark B of the frozen North
Some notes from the intro to “The Carousel Waltz” can be heard again softly when Mrs. Mullin tries to persuade Billy to return to work at the carousel, and later again when she sees him after he dies. It is later used prominently and strongly during the carnival troupe entrance in Louise’s Ballet. 🎠🎪
To Ken Freeman, Dion 1957, and Mark Blackburn: It's better than that: it wasn't an overture at all. As originally staged there was no overture, though the audience wasn't warned. The lights dim, the audience sits in their seats, the conductor raises his baton, the orchestra begins to play (with a few sour notes, to bring Tom Kuwahara back to the Montana state fair -- that was what Rodgers was hinting at, just at the beginning) -- and the curtain rises immediarely. While the orchestra plays, Billy Bigelow stands up and starts giving (silently, of course) his spiel, and people come to buy tickets for the carousel. Julie and Carrie wander over and decide to take a ride. Billy comes over and helps them up, flirting obviously with Julie. By the time the Carousel Waltz is over, we are waiting eagerly for the dialogue, to hear how this is going to play out. This was the kind of new idea (never repeated, as far as I know) by which Rodgers and Hammerstein made the musical theater a new and exciting art form.
The majesty of this overture is down entirely to Robert Russell Bennett. Richard Rodgers was indisputably one of the greatest melodists of the 20th Century, but it was an arranger that put flesh on the bones and gave each stanza its colour and glow, or shadow, for that matter.
Well put, Steviepics -- there's nothing like a great arrangement -- like this, sparkling orchestration -- to dress up (I'd use the clothing metaphor) a great melody. My favorite composer Dick Rodgers, for his and Hammerstein's favorite of their shows, decided instead of a regular overture that quotes from all the songs you're about to hear, decided (thank God) to write the greatest of his waltzes. By my reckoning, Rodgers composed 16 of the 20 greatest waltzes of the 20th century. Mr. Bennett chose his own voicings (should this be flutes, or something higher?) but in the hands of a Robert Farnon (see Sinatra's Great Songs From Great Britain album) or Nelson Riddle (see his crowning achievement THE CONCERT SINATRA album on the largest soundstage in Hollywood, with an orchestra this same size -- see Riddle and Farnon and be reminded of what even greater arrangers might have done with this masterpiece. But Mr. Bennett did it. And that's all that matters. It's HIS orchestration that's giving me goosebumps for the thousandth time in my life, this night. Thanks for your inspired note, Steviepics.
@@MarkBlackburnWPG I was going to post something about this being the first album that I purchased for myself, solely for this piece, at the tender age of eight. But your response to @Steviepics said it all. Saw the film, had the goosebumps. It soars and makes you feel your heart will burst. I've come to appreciate the entire score over the years, but this arrangement is what hooked me. And yes, the arrangement is everything. PS - my father, first generation Irish-American brought up on the lower east side of NY, didn't go to high school (his nickname was "Spitball Tom"), would have liked to trade lives with Nelson Riddle.
Robert Russell Bennet did not orchestrate Carousel, Don Walker did. Bennet did produce an early orchestration, the full version being now lost, but this is not it.
Yes, the Carousel Waltz was orchestrated by Don Walker. The only bit of Robert Russell Bennett in Carousel is "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan." Walker was responsible for the musical's wonderful scoring. (Brief bits were subcontracted to Stephen O. Jones, Hans Spialek, and Joe Glover.)
Rodgers acknowledged his debt to R. R. Bennett very graciously, especially in Oklahoma, South Pacific and Victory at Sea, but Bennett isn't in the list of credits for Carousel. As others have mentioned here, Don Walker orchestrated the Waltz. The copyright owners even generously sent me a copy of Don Walker's hand-written score (which is slightly different from the one used here), since I received their permission in 1993 to arrange the piece for 2 pianos! It's here on YT somewhere, but of course the orchestral version is just out of this world. I was nine when I first heard it, and I've never forgotten how captivated I was by the glorious sound.
The waltz king of the 20th century - Mr Richard Rodgers! There is always a great waltz in a Rodgers and Hammerstein musical and in some a couple of them. But for sheer joy and grandness of the classical European waltz - this one tops them all! Don't forget Robert Russell Bennett for his wonderful orchestrations. He was a very important part of the Rodgers sound.
Thanks for your informed note, Bruce Kuehn. By my reckoning, my favorite composer Dick Rodgers wrote 16 of the 20 best waltzes of the previous century. Topping the few others that rank with Rodgers best -- Leroy Anderson's Belle of the Ball (with almost as many movements as the Carousel Waltz) and Wonderful, Wonderful Copenhagen which Frank (Guys & Dolls) Loesser composed for his film musical on the life of Hans Christian Anderson starring Danny Kaye. Thanks again, Bruce for your note to kindred spirits. -- Mark B of the frozen North
By all means let's salute Robert Russell Bennett for all he did for other R&H shows. But Carousel (and this waltz in particular) was orchestrated by Don Walker.
Yes, but the CD version of their for-the-movie recording (unlike the black vinyl LP original) -- the Overture on the CD doesn't include the wonderful first thirty or 40 seconds of Bennet's arrangement (see my note above this night). THIS video, alone among those posted here, DOES have that opening - that gives me goosebumps every time. Thanks for your note, tiffsaver.
@@MarkBlackburnWPGThe original Capitol mono pressing of the vinyl album has no bands between the songs and contains the entire waltz,but the later “stereo” pressing with bands between the songs is missing the first four minutes of the waltz and has the songs in a slightly different order. The Angel cd releases that I own both feature the entire waltz-the first one has a red cover and spine and runs 50 mins…the second of these is the gold-colored expanded edition at 70 mins, adding dance music and other bonus tracks not in the original…maybe you’re referring to an edited version on cd. 🎠🎪
Veo al lado de John Wilson musicos veteraros estos es las melodias que le dan espiriritu a las adversidades de estos confflictos belicos mi patria quiere paz y el el mundo quieremos amoor fe y sabiduria.Bendiciones...
@Eric Zombrow ~ Same Here!! December 8th, 2022 ~ I've Loved this since first hearing/seeing"Victory at Sea" on black 'n white TV when we got one and fell in Love with Richard Rodger's Epic Score, and I come from a known Family of Pro Musician's!! I was one of only 7 Jasch Heifetz Violin Master Class artist pupil's and know Music, but upon hearing/seeing this Masterpiece of WWII TV Film's back in Happier + Times of our Great Nation, I've loved this all my life ~ R.R.'s pure Love Theme of Heaven is 'to die for' & Then Some! It makes me feel as if America is Back! But, sadly, I do not think this the case, Today, but if everyone listens to this shortened Suite of the 6 Part Series Films, it can become Itself Once Again!!! We All need a Big Cheerleader to Lead On to that 'Shining Place on The Hill' w/a Great Marine Band playing "God Bless America" & listening in rapture to This Grand Love Theme which touches All Hearts, even those that have temporarily gone to sleep yet with a Touch of 'Victory at Sea' will wake up and See the Sun!!!!!! Happy Christmas 2022 ~ Elisabeth Matesky/ USA w/ Ref: facebook.com/elisabeth.anne.775?fref=nf {w/Photo: The Carter White House: myself Green Gown+ Violin/Potus Carter/French Premier Barre standing up/applauding my Finale of the Potus Carter Invited to Offer a French Evening Violin Recital, in Eugen Ysaye's 3rd Solo Violin Sonate in D, "Ballade", which evidently 'Thrilled the Potus,' writing to me + small portion visible if you come to my FB Timeline, and maybe can see it, hand signed, "Jimmy" dated September 16, 1977 ~ It was in State DR of White House!! Warm Greetings from America ~ I Love This Work and as yourself, never tire of this Grand Score of Richard Rodgers, of Rodgers & Hammerstein!!
I have to ask - is there a John Wilson fan club out there? Because if there is, I want to join. This man has captured the essence of this music and brought it back to life. I have always loved old musicals, but they lost popularity for a while (why, God only knows?) and he has tenderly resurrected them for a new (and old) audience. I hope he goes from strength to strength.
There is nobody who could write this today or anything like it. What's happened to us? And does anyone know where I could buy some talent? At least I could entertain myself.
Billy Bigelow. Yes, my parents were there that night in 1945 to see Bonnie Raitt's Daddy in the lead role of carnival barker Billy. Just posted my own note about this 'overture-that-wasn't-really (it didn't quote a single one of the great songs in store for the audience that night). Thanks for posting, Dion1957. ( You're not by any chance THAT Dion?)
This is a Robert Russel Bennet arrangement for full orchestra. He did all of their work. The Foundation will allow no one to change sny of the original works. If you think this is great to listen to just imagine what a bubble bath it is to play!
I wonder if the original orchestration was for a full symphony orchestra ? After all it was a musical not an operetta. Thoughts anyone? Btw this is musical heaven. ❤
We just need to be clear here: The great Robert Russell Bennett didn't orchestrate this movie score. The list of those who did is long and impressive. The orchestrations were by Edward B. Powell, Nelson Riddle, Herbert Spencer, Bernard Mayers, Earle Hagen and Gus Levene. Don Walker orchestrated the Waltz beautifully, but slightly differently from what we can hear in this video.
This is the most amazing piece of music I have ever heard. If Richard Rodgers never another - this is remarkable for its musicality, diversity and the fact that every facet of the orchestra was written for. I could listen to this fantastic piece all day!
+TREVOR CURZON As I am right now. Grew up with this music. The movie soundtrack. I also played Jigger in Highschool, and Billy for a collage production. I think of the opening sequence when I hear it.
I've always LOVED this opening from Rodgers & Hammerstein!! Too bad the story line (especially at the end) was kind of non-PC in many ways! But the music has always been my fave!!
Too bad? Non-PC? What?! R&H were pioneers who confronted domestic violence (Billy abusing Julie) and suicide (Billy kills himself in the original play, it was changed for the movie to falling on his knife) long before ANYONE ELSE was. They were revolutionary! Much like South Pacific condemned racism (despite the stereotypes) in "You've Got to Be Carefully Taught". Nothing bad about taking on the problems of the world!
I applaud you for this, I get so angry with the non-pc brigade, who so desperately need a lesson in history! These R & H musicals broke new ground in so many ways and were revolutionary at the time. Musicals had been saccharine and sentimental at best with hardly a discernible plot in sight and then out of the blue, these amazing gems. Facing issues head on with people you cared about facing real dilemmas. And the music and lyrics!!! Buy a double album of any Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical and you'll scratch around for a few memorable melodies, usually pinched...whereas every last note and last word in these masterpieces is a shining jewel. So **** your moronic 'non-pc' world and recognise greatness when you see and hear it.
rupert von trapp Thanks Rupert! Indeed, the lyrics and music ARE stunning! And credit must be given to Robert Russell Bennet, Rodgers' go-to arranger, whose beautifully complex orchestrations were the icing on the cake!
The STORY is the work ''Liliom', written by Mohar, and originally took place in Budapest. Rogers and Hammerstein routinely adapted work in other media to make their musicals.
ladesigners1 I think you mean Molnár. Ferenc Molnár was a Hungarian playwright. The original 1909 production of Liliom (changed to Billy in Carousel) was a failure, but the play became popular after it was translated into English. There were a few film adaptations with the most notable being a 1934 French film starring the great Charles Boyer. Molnár likely saw the 1945 stage version of Carousel, as he later lived in New York, but he never got to see the 1956 movie, as he died in 1952.
This is undoubtedly a wonderful performance, but I much prefer the Broadway orchestration by Don Walker (which it seems is next to impossible to find a recording of in its entirety). Perhaps I'm biased because I've played this show before, but there's some strange octave shifts in the violin melody/countermelodies that really catch you off guard around measure 83, and then again around measure 121. Still, they played it terrifically.
Once you hear Carousel waltz, it will never go out of your head.
Agreed
This is up there with a Strauss waltz.
My mother who has been gone for 57 years loved this, Waltz. We watched the filming. of the movie in Maine summer of1954.
I recall Rogers & Hammerstein music from the sixties and recall now my mother, who recently passed at 100 January 2023, but only just heard this beautiful waltz about 8 years ago.
Wow. Wonderful. Great American music
Been listening to Carrousel since a child in the 1950s. This arrangement is beautiful.
I grew up with songs and music from Richard Rogers and Oscar Hammerstein (Carousel, South Pacific, The King and I, Oklahoma) and have always held these close to my heart ...beautiful and enduring.
I just can't get tired of this....it's just a masterpiece
From its dramatic opening chords... incredible. John Wilson is a godsend for all lovers of great music.
Ohhhhhh, you are soooo right....as soon as I saw your post, I wanted to thank YOU for loving this waltz as much as I do. I made handmade programs as a girl inviting my parents to watch me dance to it, And I still can't help but dance to it like now!!!! I'm so grateful for your music appreciation and for having shared it!!!!
It's over 65 years since I first heard this glorious version in my local cinema!
I literally listen to this every day (sometimes more). I believe it is perfect.
I'm also listening to the damn thing every day, and when I'm not listening to it, it's playing in my head. I want to say, "Eat your heart out, Tchaikovsky!" - because this is as brilliant as anything he ever wrote.
Carousel was the Spring musical production of my very talented High School classmates back in 1961, and when they realized that they were a couple of big strong “extras” short, me and a couple guys from the football team were recruited to fill the roles. For this opening waltz overture, Mr. Pioli, the director, told me to “go over there, grab that blonde-haired skinny little girl and twirl her around the stage” in a lovey-dovey way to the wonderful music. And who do you think the cute blonde little girl was?? None other than Goldie Hawn… so dancing with Goldie to the Carousel Waltz will always be a most memorable experience for me in life…
Richard Rogers loved writing waltzes. Fortunate for us, because he was so good at it.
I can hearing this year after year and never tired of admiration for Rogers & Hammerstein creativity. Never turns older.
I never tire of Rogers and Hart's music.
In 1979, Akron (Ohio) University's Summer Stock preformed the whole musical. I was in the cast and the opening night I was introduced to the man who became my husband. This year we'll will have been married 44 yrs! Needless to say i have a real soft spot for this music 🎶❣️🎶
They knock it out of the park! This is the best version I've ever heard. It captures the mystery and the dark, shadowy quality in the music. The buildup is tremendous! I love the percussive effects like xylophone and triangle to give it that tinkly circus/merry-go-round sound, missing in almost all other performances.
You’d also enjoy the percussion effects (coming in at about 4 mins and 9 secs) in both the 1993 & 1994 recordings of the Broadway revival…the 1993 is faster at that point, and the 1994 is slower…but it really draws out the theme in that section!…they imaginatively seem to simulate the feeling and effect of a real carousel band organ. As long as we’re at it, there are versions of the waltz on You Tube which can be heard in their arrangements for an actual Wurlitzer 165 Band Organ, plus some interesting “pianola” versions as well! 🎠🎪
I've loved the Carousel Waltz from the moment I heard it, years ago when I was a child. It was the theme music for a weekly program on a local radio station so long ago in my hometown. Every Thursday night at 9 pm, I'd tune in to hear just the few measures that began the program. And now! How exciting to be able to hear this excellent performance-- anytime I want--on UA-cam! And I have to add that John Wilson is always so fascinating and fun to watch as he directs his orchestra!!
No Carousel ride is complete without this beautiful piece accompanying the pure joy of a classic merry go round.
Without Doubt the most beautiful rendition I’ve ever heard…
True!!
I completely agrreee
Listen what they'e done with it on "Tunnel of Love".
Daddy, our music 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟how many stars are you shining, beloved dad? I miss You ❤
Aww
I love to see all the performers so happy making their own beautiful sounds.
One of the most beautiful and exciting waltzes ever written!!
Absolutely--but look who wrote it. When Roger's and Hammerstein died--The REAL musical died--with a few exceptions.
Philip Croft Yes, Philip, that's TRUE!! With ONLY a few exceptions..............
I've often thought that Richard Rodgers wrote 16 of the greatest waltzes of the 20th century. And as I said in my own note (above) this night, this was his greatest musical achievement.
No, a certain type of musical died; though the fallout from this has been profound. It is more than likely that a musical such a Carousel could no longer be written, no matter the existence of talented creators. The culture that made it possible exists no longer.
I dare you to name a better one.
That was splendid!! I have always loved hearing the Carousel Waltz, but I never watched it played by an orchestra before.
One of Rogers and Hammerstein's best compositions to be for sure. Our band, the Lake Charles Community Band (we're here on UA-cam), did a Rogers and Hammerstein tribute at one of our concerts not long ago. Hearing it again, this time with the STRINGS of a complete orchestra gives me chills. Our band has no strings (those violin parts are covered by the woodwinds), so we can't be called an orchestra. Besides, it's an composed of an entirely voluntary membership, as our members are not paid. We just do it for the enjoyment, and it's a blast!
We'll never know how this would sound if playwright Franz Molnár would accept offers from Puccini and Gerschwin or Kurt Weill for writing the score for his play Liliom, that formed the basis of Carousel. He rejected Puccini, saying: "I want Liliom to be remembered as a play by Molnár and not as a libretto for a Puccini opera". But history knows not any what ifs. Instead, we should be so grateful he gave the rights to Rodgers and Hammerstein. They produced the best musical score existing by far.
MY GOD when the main theme comes back at 5:38, the way it is stated, I feel as though I am hearing the entire universe!
Absolutely....I sing the songsfrom this....I love ..what's the use of wondering?!
And at 1:44 as well; so full and rich. Just wonderful!
Gettin' crazy on the waltzers, but it's the life that I choose
i'm 29. for as long as i can remember, i've had a music box with a carousel horse on it with a tiny tune in it. no one remembers who gave it to me, and i don't know exactly why i cry every time i listen to it. but i only found out today that this little, played on a 70 tooth cylinder, was this. i'm going to be doing more research on this musical and mr rogers. it brings me to tears with such strong emotion and i don't even know why... it was beautiful listening to it in its entirety.
Love the moving sweeping second theme- poignant and sweet.
John Wilson and his orchestra,so rich a sound…simply the BEST.
" If music is the food of love, play on...." ! One never tires of beautiful music because there is only beauty and joy from those compositions and masterpieces !
I know every song in that musical....my children used to laugh !!!
This is pure genius. Everytime I'm listening to it I have goosebumps all over. What an uplifting and playfully powerful performance of this piece!
We are going to see this wonderful orchestra in November, and cannot wait!!!
I'm also going from Yorkshire I can't wait to see in November
Wonderful and brilliant. Rodger's greatness is forever enshrined in the "Big Five" musicals with Oscar Hammerstein. It can also be found in his earlier works with Larry Hart and strong veins of it in Flower Drum Song (stage), State Fair (Film) and Cinderella (TV).
The orchestra must really love making these amazing sound. ❤
My first memory of music. This encompasses me entirely.
I was a sophomore in high school when I auditioned and was cast as Carrie Pipperidge, Julie's best friend in Carousel. It was my first leading role in a musical! I remember waiting backstage for my entrance, my heart pounding, as I listened to this enchanting music. That is the moment I fell in love with musical theatre. I am transported back in time everytime I hear this amazing music. Will always love Rogers and Hammerstein.
While Richard Rogers composed all these wonderful songs, it was Robert Russell Bennett , who arranged all the orchestra parts for every Rogers and Hammerstein musical, and the Victory at Sea documentary (which clocked in at 13 1/2 hours of music from 27 half-hour programs). Bennett took 12 piano themes by Mr Rogers and added much original music to get the job done. So the music that everyone hears and remembers with such fondness is at least half due to Mr Bennett's command of orchestration. He deserved far more credit for his brilliant work.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Russell_Bennett
It is Rodgers, not Rogers.
Robert Russel Bennet is a very well known name in Broadway music. I have played many of his arrangements.
This is just Pure JOY!! It was Rodgers favorite and these new orchestrations are performed BEAUTIFULLY by this Amazing Orchestra. Of the many versions I've explored This is now very Favorite. John Maucieri would be 2nd on the great CD called "OPENING NIGHT" consisting of R & H overtures. Check it out also. B R A V O!!!!👏👏
New Orchestrations? Sounds like the original.
@@johntlew I think you're correct in your comment, but I still have to say that the JOY and ENERGY of this performance, to me, makes it seem BRAND NEW! Also I was still early in my discovery phase of The AMAZING GENIOUS of JOHN WILSON and HIS BAND OF MUSICAL MERRYMAKERS! For me personally they have gotten me through - Probably _ the worst year and a half of this Aging Music Man's life!! Thanks for taking the time to comment though.🎹🎼🎶🎵🎵🎶🎹😄
Damn good orchestra, very good sound (well done BBC).
Hermosa música la que dirige este director. Las clásicas las escuchaba desde los 4 años en Lima - Perú. Gracias.
A magnificent orchestra + a magnificent Maestro= an absolutely brilliant masterpiece!! But I expected nothing less from The BBC Proms! This Carousel Waltz sents chills through me!!
Executed a sublime piece with superb technique and affinity for the composer.
Classic and Timeless. Most of the newer stuff isn’t on the same level.
most of the newer stuff doesn't have a 40 piece orchestra......
I think of Brian Boitano skating to this in the early to mid 90’s.. simply amazing
Wonderfully played and expertly conducted by John Wilson, plenty of dynamism, but most importantly not rushed at the end. Bravo!
Best overture of any musical from Rodgers and Hammertein.
I have always loved this musical with all the music.The opening overture is so beautiful and it puts you in such a great mood when the curtain rises and the show actually begins.Love It!!
The greatest overture -- that isn't actually an overture! It doesn't quote a single one of the songs you're about to hear when the curtain rises. Yet it is still Richard Rodgers' greatest waltz. Which is saying something. My favorite composer (by my reckoning) wrote 16 of the 20 greatest waltzes of the previous century. Just had to say, love your note, Ken FREEMAN. (Posted one of my own this night)
@@MarkBlackburnWPG It isn't the "medley overture" that's traditional in Broadway musicals of the classic period but it is an overture all the same. It's the first piece of music you hear in Carousel, and it happens before the play itself begins. It functions as an overture.
Isn't it wonderful!
@@keikekazeThe actual “overture” medley of songs from Act 1 in the show is the “Entr’acte” which is sometimes performed. 🎠🎪
I'm so lucky! I have a single ticket to go and see them at the Royal Albert Hall on 11th August. Having lived in France for many years, promised myself on my return to England that I would go one day....so excited, such a wonderful orchestra.
Simply the best live concerts with the greatest symphonic orchestra in the world. Ask any great artist who ever went to London to record. It was known for decades as (Canadian-born) Robert Farnon personal orchestra (Bob's Band) as when he conducted his arrangements for Sinatra's only studio recording (1962) outside America, Great Songs From Great Britain. If you don't own that one, you're in for a treat. Every important singer of note since then has wanted to record with London philharmonic or symphony musicians. Case in point: this video. Wow! Thanks for your comment, Patricia Lavender.
F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C !! THE GREATEST ORCHESTRA IN THE WORLD----WITH THE GREATEST CONDUCTOR--ORCHESTRATOR. JOHN WILSON
YESSSS! John Wilson AND these great inspired MUSICIANS !
Thanks for the informed note, Philip Croft -- which gives us the name I was hoping to read here: John Wilson conducting the "greatest orchestra in the world." For decades that's been the simple truth. For decades too it was "Bob's Band" -- Canadian born Robert Farnon who arranged Sinatra's only studio album, Great Songs from Great Britain and who is acknowledged as the most influential arranger, by all the other great arrangers of the 20th century. Yes, London symphony and philharmonic musicians. To this day, the go-to orchestra(s) for all great singers.
Tunnel of love
Also a good intro to Tunnel of Love
This masterpiece of music actually gives me goose-bumps! Beautiful. Thank you for sharing!!
When mankind is no more I should like to think moments like this somehow survive as a hint of what and who we were.
Richard Rogers. A genius composer. Well up to the romantics.
Such a Beautiful piece of Music!
this piece is timeless
At least 5 cameras at work to produce this video...Superb performance by all !
Stupendous. And a terrific rendition too. ❤
wonderful to dance to, flowing.
Hearing this again is giving my goosebumps goosebumps 🎉
Beautiful music . Thank you .
Love the young conductor too
I believe that despite this being the overture to the movie, none of the music is ever used again. What a glorious,full orchestral sound! For me brings back going to the Montana state fair with the noise, music, sawdust on the ground, bright lights, and the sheer joy of being a kid at the fair again on a hot summer night!!
One of the coolest pieces i've ever heard. i missed it until last year.
Thanks for the informed note, Tom Kuwahara -- yes, the greatest overture -- that isn't really an overture (not quoting from a single song the audience is about to hear). My favorite composer's favorite waltz (by my reckoning Rodgers wrote 16 of the 20 best waltzes of the previous century). Rodgers & Hammerstein's personal favorite of their many great shows. Please see a note I posted this night (above).
Your note is so perfectly evocative. You've conveyed to us so much emotion, in so few words. Thanks for your notes here, Tom Kuwahara. Posted a note of my own (above) and had to compliment a kindred spirit on this one. -- Mark B of the frozen North
Some notes from the intro to “The Carousel Waltz” can be heard again softly when Mrs. Mullin tries to persuade Billy to return to work at the carousel, and later again when she sees him after he dies. It is later used prominently and strongly during the carnival troupe entrance in Louise’s Ballet. 🎠🎪
Thanks for the input! I should have said it isn't used as a separate solo song for any of the principals.
Maravillosa orquesta interpretando una pieza alegre y maravillosa.
To Ken Freeman, Dion 1957, and Mark Blackburn: It's better than that: it wasn't an overture at all. As originally staged there was no overture, though the audience wasn't warned. The lights dim, the audience sits in their seats, the conductor raises his baton, the orchestra begins to play (with a few sour notes, to bring Tom Kuwahara back to the Montana state fair -- that was what Rodgers was hinting at, just at the beginning) -- and the curtain rises immediarely. While the orchestra plays, Billy Bigelow stands up and starts giving (silently, of course) his spiel, and people come to buy tickets for the carousel. Julie and Carrie wander over and decide to take a ride. Billy comes over and helps them up, flirting obviously with Julie. By the time the Carousel Waltz is over, we are waiting eagerly for the dialogue, to hear how this is going to play out. This was the kind of new idea (never repeated, as far as I know) by which Rodgers and Hammerstein made the musical theater a new and exciting art form.
Captures all the fun at the Fair, a perfect description in music! Love it!
Super !
The majesty of this overture is down entirely to Robert Russell Bennett. Richard Rodgers was indisputably one of the greatest melodists of the 20th Century, but it was an arranger that put flesh on the bones and gave each stanza its colour and glow, or shadow, for that matter.
Well put, Steviepics -- there's nothing like a great arrangement -- like this, sparkling orchestration -- to dress up (I'd use the clothing metaphor) a great melody. My favorite composer Dick Rodgers, for his and Hammerstein's favorite of their shows, decided instead of a regular overture that quotes from all the songs you're about to hear, decided (thank God) to write the greatest of his waltzes. By my reckoning, Rodgers composed 16 of the 20 greatest waltzes of the 20th century. Mr. Bennett chose his own voicings (should this be flutes, or something higher?) but in the hands of a Robert Farnon (see Sinatra's Great Songs From Great Britain album) or Nelson Riddle (see his crowning achievement THE CONCERT SINATRA album on the largest soundstage in Hollywood, with an orchestra this same size -- see Riddle and Farnon and be reminded of what even greater arrangers might have done with this masterpiece. But Mr. Bennett did it. And that's all that matters. It's HIS orchestration that's giving me goosebumps for the thousandth time in my life, this night. Thanks for your inspired note, Steviepics.
@@MarkBlackburnWPG I was going to post something about this being the first album that I purchased for myself, solely for this piece, at the tender age of eight. But your response to @Steviepics said it all. Saw the film, had the goosebumps. It soars and makes you feel your heart will burst. I've come to appreciate the entire score over the years, but this arrangement is what hooked me. And yes, the arrangement is everything.
PS - my father, first generation Irish-American brought up on the lower east side of NY, didn't go to high school (his nickname was "Spitball Tom"), would have liked to trade lives with Nelson Riddle.
Robert Russell Bennet did not orchestrate Carousel, Don Walker did. Bennet did produce an early orchestration, the full version being now lost, but this is not it.
Yes, the Carousel Waltz was orchestrated by Don Walker. The only bit of Robert Russell Bennett in Carousel is "You're a Queer One, Julie Jordan." Walker was responsible for the musical's wonderful scoring. (Brief bits were subcontracted to Stephen O. Jones, Hans Spialek, and Joe Glover.)
Rodgers acknowledged his debt to R. R. Bennett very graciously, especially in Oklahoma, South Pacific and Victory at Sea, but Bennett isn't in the list of credits for Carousel. As others have mentioned here, Don Walker orchestrated the Waltz. The copyright owners even generously sent me a copy of Don Walker's hand-written score (which is slightly different from the one used here), since I received their permission in 1993 to arrange the piece for 2 pianos! It's here on YT somewhere, but of course the orchestral version is just out of this world. I was nine when I first heard it, and I've never forgotten how captivated I was by the glorious sound.
No me canso de escucharle que orquesta tan fantástica gracias
Brilliant!
The waltz king of the 20th century - Mr Richard Rodgers! There is always a great waltz in a Rodgers and Hammerstein musical and in some a couple of them. But for sheer joy and grandness of the classical European waltz - this one tops them all! Don't forget Robert Russell Bennett for his wonderful orchestrations. He was a very important part of the Rodgers sound.
Thanks for your informed note, Bruce Kuehn. By my reckoning, my favorite composer Dick Rodgers wrote 16 of the 20 best waltzes of the previous century. Topping the few others that rank with Rodgers best -- Leroy Anderson's Belle of the Ball (with almost as many movements as the Carousel Waltz) and Wonderful, Wonderful Copenhagen which Frank (Guys & Dolls) Loesser composed for his film musical on the life of Hans Christian Anderson starring Danny Kaye. Thanks again, Bruce for your note to kindred spirits. -- Mark B of the frozen North
By all means let's salute Robert Russell Bennett for all he did for other R&H shows. But Carousel (and this waltz in particular) was orchestrated by Don Walker.
Watching Gordon McRae and Shirley Jones do this musical pretty much ruined me for anyone else. Ditto for Oklahoma! Unforgettable.
Yes, but the CD version of their for-the-movie recording (unlike the black vinyl LP original) -- the Overture on the CD doesn't include the wonderful first thirty or 40 seconds of Bennet's arrangement (see my note above this night). THIS video, alone among those posted here, DOES have that opening - that gives me goosebumps every time. Thanks for your note, tiffsaver.
Shirley and Gordon were terrific in the film version.
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None better!!!
@@MarkBlackburnWPGThe original Capitol mono pressing of the vinyl album has no bands between the songs and contains the entire waltz,but the later “stereo” pressing with bands between the songs is missing the first four minutes of the waltz and has the songs in a slightly different order. The Angel cd releases that I own both feature the entire waltz-the first one has a red cover and spine and runs 50 mins…the second of these is the gold-colored expanded edition at 70 mins, adding dance music and other bonus tracks not in the original…maybe you’re referring to an edited version on cd.
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Veo al lado de John Wilson musicos veteraros estos es las melodias que le dan espiriritu a las adversidades de estos confflictos belicos mi patria quiere paz y el el mundo quieremos amoor fe y sabiduria.Bendiciones...
Conductor super cute. ❤
Positively magnificent!
Rodgers & Hammerstein, a Perfect Team with a Distinctive Style!
@Eric Zombrow ~ Same Here!! December 8th, 2022 ~ I've Loved this since first hearing/seeing"Victory at Sea" on black 'n white TV when we got one and fell in
Love with Richard Rodger's Epic Score, and I come from a known Family of Pro
Musician's!! I was one of only 7 Jasch Heifetz Violin Master Class artist pupil's
and know Music, but upon hearing/seeing this Masterpiece of WWII TV Film's
back in Happier + Times of our Great Nation, I've loved this all my life ~ R.R.'s
pure Love Theme of Heaven is 'to die for' & Then Some! It makes me feel as if
America is Back! But, sadly, I do not think this the case, Today, but if everyone
listens to this shortened Suite of the 6 Part Series Films, it can become Itself
Once Again!!! We All need a Big Cheerleader to Lead On to that 'Shining Place
on The Hill' w/a Great Marine Band playing "God Bless America" & listening in
rapture to This Grand Love Theme which touches All Hearts, even those that
have temporarily gone to sleep yet with a Touch of 'Victory at Sea' will wake
up and See the Sun!!!!!! Happy Christmas 2022 ~ Elisabeth Matesky/ USA w/
Ref: facebook.com/elisabeth.anne.775?fref=nf {w/Photo: The
Carter White House: myself Green Gown+ Violin/Potus Carter/French Premier
Barre standing up/applauding my Finale of the Potus Carter Invited to Offer
a French Evening Violin Recital, in Eugen Ysaye's 3rd Solo Violin Sonate in D,
"Ballade", which evidently 'Thrilled the Potus,' writing to me + small portion
visible if you come to my FB Timeline, and maybe can see it, hand signed,
"Jimmy" dated September 16, 1977 ~ It was in State DR of White House!!
Warm Greetings from America ~ I Love This Work and as yourself, never
tire of this Grand Score of Richard Rodgers, of Rodgers & Hammerstein!!
Fabulous
Stunning!
definitive performance
Bella melodia, la escuché de niño como cortina musical del recordado programa radial, Carrusel del aire de radio del pacifico
I performed in this musical back in May this year
I have to ask - is there a John Wilson fan club out there? Because if there is, I want to join. This man has captured the essence of this music and brought it back to life. I have always loved old musicals, but they lost popularity for a while (why, God only knows?) and he has tenderly resurrected them for a new (and old) audience. I hope he goes from strength to strength.
Yes, on Facebook.
Flawless performance. And wow, the great trumpet player Mike Lovatt, channeling the master, Uan Rasey (look him up and you'll know what I mean).
Magnificent!
EXCELLENT!!
Love this❤
There is nobody who could write this today or anything like it. What's happened to us? And does anyone know where I could buy some talent? At least I could entertain myself.
Amazing
Imagine sitting in a Broadway Theater and hearing this for the first time.What can you hear, now? The Overture to Billy Elliott?
Billy Bigelow. Yes, my parents were there that night in 1945 to see Bonnie Raitt's Daddy in the lead role of carnival barker Billy. Just posted my own note about this 'overture-that-wasn't-really (it didn't quote a single one of the great songs in store for the audience that night). Thanks for posting, Dion1957. ( You're not by any chance THAT Dion?)
Billy Elliot hasn't got an overture.
Maravillosa y Soñadora
Good sharing my dear
Musical Nirvana!
This is a Robert Russel Bennet arrangement for full orchestra. He did all of their work. The Foundation will allow no one to change sny of the original works. If you think this is great to listen to just imagine what a bubble bath it is to play!
I wonder if the original orchestration was for a full symphony orchestra ? After all it was a musical not an operetta. Thoughts anyone? Btw this is musical heaven. ❤
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We just need to be clear here: The great Robert Russell Bennett didn't orchestrate this movie score. The list of those who did is long and impressive. The orchestrations were by Edward B. Powell, Nelson Riddle, Herbert Spencer, Bernard Mayers, Earle Hagen and Gus Levene. Don Walker orchestrated the Waltz beautifully, but slightly differently from what we can hear in this video.
wonderful
This is the most amazing piece of music I have ever heard. If Richard Rodgers never another - this is remarkable for its musicality, diversity and the fact that every facet of the orchestra was written for. I could listen to this fantastic piece all day!
+TREVOR CURZON As I am right now. Grew up with this music. The movie soundtrack. I also played Jigger in Highschool, and Billy for a collage production. I think of the opening sequence when I hear it.
+TREVOR CURZON And you can hear "borrowings" all over the musical landscape.
+Gary Cappelletti Those flying runs behind those minor to major scales get me every time.
Those runs are everywhere! You're such a lucky Jigger mate, what a role.
Wonderful music, but a kind of sad story with a bittersweet ending?
No 'buts' when the music is this glorious... ☺
I seem to be one of the few that does not love this show, however this opening is one of the best in B'way history!
6'13 is when she is lifted on to the ride
I've always LOVED this opening from Rodgers & Hammerstein!! Too bad the story line (especially at the end) was kind of non-PC in many ways! But the music has always been my fave!!
Too bad? Non-PC? What?!
R&H were pioneers who confronted domestic violence (Billy abusing Julie) and suicide (Billy kills himself in the original play, it was changed for the movie to falling on his knife) long before ANYONE ELSE was. They were revolutionary! Much like South Pacific condemned racism (despite the stereotypes) in "You've Got to Be Carefully Taught". Nothing bad about taking on the problems of the world!
I applaud you for this, I get so angry with the non-pc brigade, who so desperately need a lesson in history! These R & H musicals broke new ground in so many ways and were revolutionary at the time. Musicals had been saccharine and sentimental at best with hardly a discernible plot in sight and then out of the blue, these amazing gems. Facing issues head on with people you cared about facing real dilemmas. And the music and lyrics!!! Buy a double album of any Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical and you'll scratch around for a few memorable melodies, usually pinched...whereas every last note and last word in these masterpieces is a shining jewel. So **** your moronic 'non-pc' world and recognise greatness when you see and hear it.
rupert von trapp
Thanks Rupert! Indeed, the lyrics and music ARE stunning! And credit must be given to Robert Russell Bennet, Rodgers' go-to arranger, whose beautifully complex orchestrations were the icing on the cake!
The STORY is the work ''Liliom', written by Mohar, and originally took place in Budapest. Rogers and Hammerstein routinely adapted work in other media to make their musicals.
ladesigners1
I think you mean Molnár. Ferenc Molnár was a Hungarian playwright. The original 1909 production of Liliom (changed to Billy in Carousel) was a failure, but the play became popular after it was translated into English. There were a few film adaptations with the most notable being a 1934 French film starring the great Charles Boyer. Molnár likely saw the 1945 stage version of Carousel, as he later lived in New York, but he never got to see the 1956 movie, as he died in 1952.
This is undoubtedly a wonderful performance, but I much prefer the Broadway orchestration by Don Walker (which it seems is next to impossible to find a recording of in its entirety). Perhaps I'm biased because I've played this show before, but there's some strange octave shifts in the violin melody/countermelodies that really catch you off guard around measure 83, and then again around measure 121. Still, they played it terrifically.
En 1955 au début d' Europe numero 1 la valse des carousels servait d'indicatif à l'émission hebdomadaire Carousel .