The Horse and The Infant | Epic: the musical Animatic (FLASH WARNING)

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  • my original plan was to only make an animatic of the part where Odysseus is telling everyone the plan (Diomedes will lead the charge...), but when I finished that I got too excited to do the rest of the song, so here we are lol
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    The Horse and The Infant | Epic: the musical Animatic
    Music by Jorge Rivera-Herrans @JayHerrans
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  • @gigi2820
    @gigi2820  Рік тому +637

    ALSO I created a Ko-Fi! So if you want to
    buy me a coffee I appreciate it very much!
    Here it is: ☕ ko-fi.com/giiij

  • @bcfb21
    @bcfb21 8 місяців тому +4404

    “Sir I think the horse is singing”
    “I ThInK tHe HoRsE iS sInGiNg do you hear how stupid you are soldier?”

    • @divineclaypuppet7460
      @divineclaypuppet7460 4 місяці тому +343

      "Gods dammit, we already have someone that tells stupidities, where's Cassandre now?"

    • @Skipston55
      @Skipston55 4 місяці тому +213

      "Yeah, shut up Cassandra!"

    • @schwaben4120
      @schwaben4120 4 місяці тому +192

      "No, Cassandra, horses don't 💅🏻slay💅🏻"

    • @annablaze4577
      @annablaze4577 4 місяці тому +72

      Do we need to put you in the cellar again

    • @Malygosblues
      @Malygosblues 4 місяці тому +86

      Lmao Cassandra just dooming Troy because she points out the horse has a full on chant chorus going

  • @nowayjose1870
    @nowayjose1870 Рік тому +3749

    I really like your choice to depict the child as a monstrous, beast-like thing when he grows up. Like Odysseus is trying to dehumanize him to justify murdering him....

    • @Princessallstar365
      @Princessallstar365 10 місяців тому +256

      He’s trying to convince himself that it’s for the greater good.

    • @danielsierragallardo8868
      @danielsierragallardo8868 4 місяці тому +23

      I mean, was kinda right​@@Princessallstar365

    • @RayGainbows
      @RayGainbows 3 місяці тому +71

      Its also cool because the later line "when does a man become a monster" makes me think of Hectors son too. not only Odysseus.

    • @filiptrajkovski2198
      @filiptrajkovski2198 3 місяці тому +24

      I always interpreted it as Odysseus asking hinself if this child will truly be his undoing if he grows up
      Like no matter what he does he will find kut and kill everyonenhe loves , sort of a way to talk himself up to doing the unthinkable ​@@RayGainbows

    • @jameskurth3560
      @jameskurth3560 3 дні тому +1

      Good point. As Zeus says, the other gods won't let him not become the avenger of troy. Eventually it will happen. ​@@RayGainbows

  • @LexitaMai
    @LexitaMai 7 місяців тому +2066

    "A foe who won't run" punches you in the chest when you realize it's a baby

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain 6 місяців тому +99

      I don't trust a word that comes out of that excuse of a king, father and husband. Look at how he approaches Odysseus during the previous song, the inconsistency...
      And then, there's the fact he can't force his subjects to accept Troy fell. It's like Kratos said:
      "Gods are petty and pathetic. And your rule is weak.".

    • @aliceinwonderbruh6433
      @aliceinwonderbruh6433 4 місяці тому +3

      Fr

    • @timtimothy5405
      @timtimothy5405 4 місяці тому

      ​@@JabamiLainjudging ancient religious figures by today's moral standards is stupid and you're stupid for doing so.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@JabamiLainZeus IS such an ahole, this is Not AS Bad AS "Favorit so'n" from "the Mechanisms" WHO managed to make him even worse of an ahole thenhe worse in the myth, but ist's a Close call . . .Just His describtion of the Babe and how missleading IT IS, then His O do Not think you can do IT, edging him on but also knowing, that Odysseus can Not bear what He asks of him, but demanding IT all the Same and then the BS of ITS the will of the gods, like He was Not their fucking ruler . . .

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain 2 місяці тому +7

      @@timtimothy5405I can agree to that in regards to Odysseus, but not for Zeus.

  • @Tank175
    @Tank175 Рік тому +5385

    "The blood on your hands is something you won't lose
    All you can choose is whose"
    That hit hard

    • @afellowpotato
      @afellowpotato Рік тому +65

      I'm just replying so you can see how much likes you got

    • @Tank175
      @Tank175 Рік тому +42

      @🥔 A Fellow Potato 🥔 Jesus thats the nicest thing a random stranger did to me!
      I can't believe it got so many likes

    • @GodzillaInHellforbeingHIM
      @GodzillaInHellforbeingHIM Рік тому +10

      Yeah it's a good comment man

    • @afellowpotato
      @afellowpotato Рік тому +19

      @Alexander it is my duty as a Fellow Potato. Join me and the potatoes and together we can rule the galaxy as potato and potato

    • @jrgoriginal569
      @jrgoriginal569 8 місяців тому +6

      @@afellowpotato This is the way

  • @Samyueru328
    @Samyueru328 7 місяців тому +1682

    I absolutely will always love the double meaning behind "A foe who won't run, unlike anyone you have faced before." and how it foreshadows in a way that Odysseus has to kill an infant.

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain 6 місяців тому +57

      I don't trust a word that comes out of that excuse of a king, father and husband. Look at how he approaches Odysseus, the inconsistency...
      And then, there's the fact he can't force his subjects to accept Troy fell. It's like Kratos said:
      "Gods are petty and pathetic. And your rule is weak.".

    • @venuasaur560
      @venuasaur560 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@JabamiLain what do you mean previous song

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@venuasaur560 I fixed the comment.

    • @kairipendragon7754
      @kairipendragon7754 5 місяців тому +35

      It can also be foresight for the cyclops. It couldn't fight back but when Athena told him to finish it he let his humanity kick in and said no which was a stab to the will of the gods since he forgets she is a god. And because of his mercy he had to deal with Poseidon who became an avenger because of his son's cries.

    • @jaxparrow87
      @jaxparrow87 Місяць тому +9

      And the fact Odysseus was most likely thinking about a powerful warrior and definitely not a baby hits hard 😭

  • @i_do_stuff_ig
    @i_do_stuff_ig 9 місяців тому +2426

    The gods telling someone to kill a child and then cursing them for it is such a Greek gods thing to do

    • @saramelchiorri6658
      @saramelchiorri6658 5 місяців тому +398

      And they will also curse you if your didn't kill him. There's no winning with these gods

    • @SleepyHollowKnight
      @SleepyHollowKnight 4 місяці тому +33

      Lmao real

    • @aliceinwonderbruh6433
      @aliceinwonderbruh6433 4 місяці тому +16

      Fr

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 3 місяці тому +60

      Zeus was not the one to tell Odysseus to do that.
      And every god in ancient mythologies, including the israelite God, where like that, demanding gruesome things, the greek gods where not the only ones.

    • @RayGainbows
      @RayGainbows 3 місяці тому

      The Greek gods are in this content. We don't need to compare all the gods in existance to enjoy and talk about them. @@sonofcronos7831

  • @Les303
    @Les303 Рік тому +4767

    Zeus saying “this is the will of the gods” is the ultimate gaslighting moment

    • @markuspeh529
      @markuspeh529 10 місяців тому +509

      I don't really think so. If he'd let the son life, the gods who supported troy would definitly convince the child to revenge his family. It might not be Zeus will, but it's still the will of other gods.

    • @locusta-bw2vd
      @locusta-bw2vd 9 місяців тому +345

      Zeus didn't participate in this at all. He was neutral during the Trojan War and he didn't allow the other gods participate either. They did in secret and after Aphrodite was injured by Diomedes, Zeus made them all retire from the war.

    • @prestonstanley7736
      @prestonstanley7736 9 місяців тому +241

      @@locusta-bw2vd But, it seems that no matter what Odysseus tries to say he could do to not kill the child, Zeus counters. What tips me off is the two lines; “The Gods will make him know.” And “This is the will of the Gods.” It seems he could let Odysseus do this, but Zeus wants the child dead.

    • @locusta-bw2vd
      @locusta-bw2vd 9 місяців тому

      @@prestonstanley7736 It wasn't the will of the gods in the original myth. The gods who supported Greek victory over Troy cursed the Greeks to have a difficult way back home because they broke the rules. They did not respect the temples as refugee shelters, they dragged out women and children who had sought shelter in the temples, they raped and killed (rape of Cassandra, murder of Astyanax). And they got punished for it.

    • @yoavshamir9055
      @yoavshamir9055 9 місяців тому

      ​@@prestonstanley7736thing is Zeus is not an omnipotent, omniscient god. Some of the gods supported Troy, others did Greece. Zeus is neutral. And he cant truly prevent some of the gods from doing what he warns from, as they will do it in secret whatever he says

  • @pink_parade2900
    @pink_parade2900 Рік тому +6234

    Massive respect to anyone who can fit “Telemachus” into a song.

    • @keenaoran5294
      @keenaoran5294 Рік тому +179

      Lol agreed prompts to them

    • @no-oq2ho
      @no-oq2ho Рік тому +247

      And he did it twice

    • @giannamosquera4363
      @giannamosquera4363 Рік тому +60

      1 k likes and only 2 replies?
      Let me help and yeah this animatic is awesome, I can't wait till the circe and underworld sagas come out

    • @doomsanity9689
      @doomsanity9689 Рік тому +60

      You brought my awareness to the little baby, so I appreciate you acknowledge his sweet, new life… l

    • @Soup_Lolol
      @Soup_Lolol 9 місяців тому +16

      Homer💀

  • @red4679
    @red4679 Рік тому +3847

    And how you made Zeus appear as an eagle like Athena is an owl BECAUSE THOSE ARE THEIR ANIMALS?! The consistent attention to detail is just immaculate!

    • @user-tp9uw1pr6m
      @user-tp9uw1pr6m Рік тому +61

      Is Poseidon gonna be a dolphin lmao 🤣

    • @red4679
      @red4679 Рік тому +76

      @@user-tp9uw1pr6m Doesn't a lyric say "The pack of wolves is swimming with the shark now" otherwise it would have to be a horse

    • @tarniabook3076
      @tarniabook3076 Рік тому

      @@user-tp9uw1pr6m He should be a horse, that was his animal.

    • @user-tp9uw1pr6m
      @user-tp9uw1pr6m Рік тому +20

      @@tarniabook3076 I know but how is he going to appear to Odysseus as a horse? Since he is on the sea

    • @tarniabook3076
      @tarniabook3076 Рік тому +51

      @@user-tp9uw1pr6m I think there is a creature which is an aquatic horse in Greek mythology. And also, he's a god, he could turn into a horse that looks normal but walks on water or something.

  • @OctoJuice
    @OctoJuice 6 місяців тому +404

    “Ten years of war they killed us slowly… but now we’ll be the ones to 💅slay💅”

    • @roxyyyxoxo
      @roxyyyxoxo Місяць тому +15

      FR THATS THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF LMAO

    • @Julia-pn9cn
      @Julia-pn9cn Місяць тому +7

      I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT LOL

    • @Ga_Asore
      @Ga_Asore Місяць тому +8

      I WAS SEARCHING FOR A COMMENT LIKE THIS

    • @vexicron_the_sandwich
      @vexicron_the_sandwich 8 днів тому +1

      DIABETES WILL LEAD THE CHARGE!

    • @BiLaDouSAiD
      @BiLaDouSAiD День тому

      I legitimately can’t sing that part of the song without doing a girlie girl slay pose

  • @arcanegamer2723
    @arcanegamer2723 Рік тому +365

    "um sir the giant wooden horse is singing about how to take over the city," some random trojan solder to his commander.

    • @apollotheoffical
      @apollotheoffical 4 місяці тому +34

      The Commander “the hades you on about go go in the lying conner with Cassandra"

    • @lilamurilega9583
      @lilamurilega9583 Місяць тому +5

      na it was probably aeneas 💀💀💀

    • @drawingdoritu
      @drawingdoritu Місяць тому

      @@lilamurilega9583he’s a fucking snitch

    • @Dragonlover553
      @Dragonlover553 11 днів тому +1

      Landon and his sons literally died for saying that.

  • @kikio0529
    @kikio0529 Рік тому +2239

    Neo being a psycho covered in blood...that made the name finally click. It's Neoptolemus. Loved the dynamics of that rap. and the whisp that's the vision

    • @Meronim
      @Meronim 11 місяців тому +43

      Same! It took me awhile though 😅

    • @nosleepnostory2076
      @nosleepnostory2076 11 місяців тому +21

      Same 🙈

    • @ayanda4232
      @ayanda4232 8 місяців тому +48

      As someone who's just finished the song of Achilles I'm loving the sing even more

    • @ilikedinosaurs392
      @ilikedinosaurs392 8 місяців тому +17

      What did Neoptolemus do?

    • @queenmaeve2861
      @queenmaeve2861 8 місяців тому +136

      ​@ilikedinosaurs392 He is the son of Achilles, who was also known as Pyrrhus, meaning "Red". He was brought to fight in the Trojan War by Odysseus because the prophecy said they could only win with poisonous arrows of Heracles, the stealing the Palladium and bringing teen Neo to the war.
      Edit: clicked too early LOL. Here is the rest:
      Neo took after his father, and in some sources was said to be hella brutal of a killer, killing at least 5 big names in the war and rumored to be ruthless. But there are some sources where he carries out killing someone, making sure to kill them painlessly.

  • @Imgonnaboopyou
    @Imgonnaboopyou 2 місяці тому +255

    “A foe who won’t run unlike anyone you have faced before”
    AND ITS JUST A BABY I WAS OVER HERE THINKING IT WAS SOME HELLA TUFF GUY 😭😭😭😭

    • @nyx1016
      @nyx1016 Місяць тому +5

      LMAO SAME😭

    • @Sonofheffy
      @Sonofheffy 23 дні тому +1

      LMAOOOO AND SAME WITH THE CIRCE THING😭

  • @strawberbeee
    @strawberbeee Рік тому +2565

    THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL. THIS IS ASTOUNDING. The feeling you can see in Odysseus, Zeus being in the clouds, the preview when Odysseus is assigning jobs to his men...wow. I'm always so impressed by your work but this..holy hell. Another beautiful production gigi.

    • @amynguyen527
      @amynguyen527 Рік тому +18

      Having a fire in a wooden horse though might have been an oversight 😝

    • @Camp_Half_Blood_Is_Here
      @Camp_Half_Blood_Is_Here 4 місяці тому +1

      @@amynguyen527 I was thinking that 😂

  • @Zephirite.
    @Zephirite. Рік тому +332

    Imagine you’re a sleeping Trojan and you get woken by some Greek belting his heart out inside a wooden horse.
    I guess the acoustics must be good.

    • @halosithmaycry3529
      @halosithmaycry3529 10 днів тому +3

      "Hey, does anyone else here the horse singing?"
      "Why would a horse be singing, you dolt? Go back to sleep."
      *At happens*
      "I told there was someone in that horse!"

  • @YaLo525
    @YaLo525 3 місяці тому +207

    you can't convince me that they just didnt want him to do it for their entertainment cause, "The gods will make him know" is crazy

    • @Gioppdumister
      @Gioppdumister 2 місяці тому +49

      Not really. The gods who supported Troy coming to the boy and saying “hey you wanna kill the man who killed your daddy?” is entirely within the realm of possibility.
      Most of the gods did pick a side and some did actively participate in the war after all.

    • @tktsunami6236
      @tktsunami6236 Місяць тому +12

      I think it depends on how you raise the kid. The Gods will tell him, well than I tell him myself you dumbass. I will love and cherish him and tell him that I chose to raise him instead of giving in to a god's will. That I love him and that I'm sorry that his biological parents had been in a war with us and how desperate every soldier is to protect their home. That I see him as my son even if he had different parent.
      If he was raised by love why should he avenge a father he can't even remember? Hell, I'll raise him to chose for himself and not because some gods tell him something he already knows
      I raise my middlefinger to Zeus because he clearly has no understanding how LOVE works. The man who sleeps with every beautiful woman regardless how she feels can 't tell me that the way of raising a child of love can make an enemy
      Love, information, no secrets and just symphaty are the keys.
      And to be fair, for the gods it will be a bad tale but for humans? I would live for that.
      But well Odysseus tried at least with the idea but didn't believe enough in it.
      PS: "The blood on your hands is something you won't lose. All you can choose is whose" Zeus, I bleed every month with pain don't come me with this info. Because Iwill chose yours. And throw a party with Hades for trying lol

    • @bluesnake4626
      @bluesnake4626 23 дні тому +2

      @@tktsunami6236While that's possible, knowing Greek tragedy rules it would have never ended well.

  • @HyacinthFlowers
    @HyacinthFlowers 3 місяці тому +166

    Odysesus: Having a crisis
    The baby: Vibing

  • @Random_Kelsey
    @Random_Kelsey Рік тому +1314

    I'm just going to focus on how adorably cute and hilarious little Ajax is, otherwise I'll just be bawling 😭🤣

    • @SIMPLY_GJ
      @SIMPLY_GJ Рік тому +100

      imma bout to end thus mans whole career.....
      did you know that Little Ajax dies too-

    • @Random_Kelsey
      @Random_Kelsey Рік тому +107

      @@SIMPLY_GJ I mean, I'm aware Odysseus is the only one who survives back home sooo... 😄

    • @SIMPLY_GJ
      @SIMPLY_GJ Рік тому +47

      @@Random_Kelsey Little Ajax no more-

    • @dealmakerdreamtaker5257
      @dealmakerdreamtaker5257 Рік тому +29

      @@SIMPLY_GJ yours simply not going to get em to ball g just accept the gamer over screen

    • @blake3631
      @blake3631 Рік тому +45

      @@Random_Kelsey menelaus does as well!, he and Helen actually have a happy ending

  • @nathanaelfriday7596
    @nathanaelfriday7596 4 місяці тому +209

    People make Little Ajax look so cute, when he was actually one of the greatest Greek warriors, just not as superhuman of a soldier as "Big Ajax". Then during this depicted sack of Troy he dragged Cassandra away from where she clung to the statue of Athena in the temple, and SA'd her. This enraged Athena, who caused many of their ships to sink on the way home and ultimately hit him with a lightning bolt.

    • @mlgwolvesmeep
      @mlgwolvesmeep Місяць тому +6

      I

    • @VFM_of
      @VFM_of Місяць тому +11

      Holy sh-t

    • @bluesnake4626
      @bluesnake4626 23 дні тому +16

      @@VFM_ofYa “little Ajax” was also known as Ajax the Lesser. Odysseus even suggested he be put to death because he knew Athena was going to be pissed.

    • @MistySophie
      @MistySophie 12 днів тому

      Athena taking zeos lighting bolt like "dad, let me hit this mudeficker-"

  • @theboundlesshumanspirit7457
    @theboundlesshumanspirit7457 Рік тому +503

    Diomedes leading the army while Agamemnon flanks around is surprisingly accurate to the Iliad lmao

    • @cephalonsark1530
      @cephalonsark1530 11 місяців тому +55

      Diomedes is a badass in the Iliad. Love that guy.

    • @metarcee2483
      @metarcee2483 7 місяців тому +22

      I had the Iliad as assigned reading in ninth grade, and I really liked it. I had to write an essay on a topic in it after reading, and I wrote about the weapons used. After that, my English teacher made me pick from a set of prompts.

    • @ilikedinosaurs392
      @ilikedinosaurs392 6 місяців тому +4

      @@metarcee2483 lmao

    • @metarcee2483
      @metarcee2483 6 місяців тому +6

      @@ilikedinosaurs392 she was very glad she did that when we covered Pride and Prejudice, which I described as "regency Kardashians." That essay ended up being an attempt to figure out why Elizabeth and Darcy ended up liking each other.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@metarcee2483 . . .hate to Break IT to you, but pride and prejudice IS nothing Like regency kardashians . . .AS someone WHO hates 99.99 procent of all romance this IS one of very few intelligent and reasonable approaches to romance and belivable misunderstandings

  • @kpsmorera
    @kpsmorera Рік тому +935

    Every time I hear Zeus say: “This is the will of the Gods…” I remember the words of Pathos Verdes III: “Once a faithful servant of the cruel and uncaring gods…”
    Also, how Odysseus steps back in sheer horror at 3:03 when Zeus tells him: “if you don’t end him now, you will have no one left to save…”

    • @dull_demon4717
      @dull_demon4717 11 місяців тому +82

      the "Cruel and uncaring gods" hits harder after "I'll make sure his past is never know" is followed by "The gods will make him know"

    • @fernandonava6693
      @fernandonava6693 4 місяці тому +8

      This is why I am Christian. Why the heck would you follow someone who's rooting against you?

    • @idkwtcm984
      @idkwtcm984 4 місяці тому +18

      @@fernandonava6693I mean, the Christian God’s record isn’t spotlessly clean either.

    • @vicky_thegiantpossum
      @vicky_thegiantpossum 2 місяці тому +4

      For me it's a kind of equality: Zeus lets Odysseus choose his destiny by telling him information. The choice is then in his hands. It will be the same for Astyanax (the baby) if he grows up. I don't know if I can express my thoughts well but in my head this situation makes sense. The gods see what could happen and have the habit of intervening all the time in human affairs...

  • @red4679
    @red4679 Рік тому +504

    Please I am OBSESSED with the way you handled 1:47 because this actually shows why Odysseus would say 'WHO was that?' instead of 'WHAT was that?'

    • @Cbell14-
      @Cbell14- Рік тому +34

      I’m also in love with that part😂 this whole video is perfectly made❤ I honestly think that if they make an animated version of this musical, this person should be put in charge of it. Cuz I would watch it many many many times

  • @sarram143
    @sarram143 Рік тому +1229

    SO MANY THINGS!
    You actually put the Trojan horse
    You forshadowed what the characters would do during the battle
    The EXPRESSIONS are absolutely BEAUTIFUL!
    The Penelope and Telemachus flashback was expertly done (Penelope looks GORGEOUS!)
    All the details like Odysseus blowing out the torch and twirling his sword in anticipation were so cool!
    You actually included a battle scene
    ZEUS first in the clouds and then in his signature animal the eagle watching from the window
    The EXPRESSIONS on baby Astyanax are so CUTE
    Odysseus' internal conflict was done really well.
    Zeus fading away at the end of the song along with his voice
    The ANIMATION in general was so SMOOTH
    This entire thing was absolute FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Earned my sub in anticipation for more Epic

    • @magwyn-ri7mj
      @magwyn-ri7mj Рік тому +6

      I couldn't have said it better! So well done!!! 🤘🏻

    • @StellarMoo97
      @StellarMoo97 Рік тому +7

      120% agree this is my favorite animation done so far! It's being saved! I listen to these songs a lot while playing assassin's creed odyssey

    • @akumasstorytime3910
      @akumasstorytime3910 Рік тому +7

      I mean if I had a wife that looks like Penelope I too would do everything to get back.

  • @NoName-in3sx
    @NoName-in3sx Рік тому +292

    knowing what the myths already had, i actually teared up when seeing little Astyanax
    he was just a little boy

  • @pandemonium2536
    @pandemonium2536 9 місяців тому +107

    The trojans hearing an amazing ballad begin from inside the wooden horse: 👁️👄👁️

  • @Zephirite.
    @Zephirite. Рік тому +352

    That vision scene leading to the infant was EXACTLY as I imagined it; the aspiration of grown-up Asyntax striking Odysseus, the eagle leading to the vision of Zeus with a cloudy beard, Odysseus walking down a dark hallway as mist leads him to the room, an EPIC panning shot as Odysseus proposes ways to spare the kid, Zeus disappearing so Odysseus can’t argue with him-INCREDIBLE.
    I was gonna do an animatic for it, but now I may not have to.

  • @901chimera
    @901chimera Рік тому +67

    What I think is very ironic is that Odysseus offered to raise him as his own (valid plan imo) but Zeus said the gods would "make him know". So the gods would inform the child of everything probably just to fulfill thw prophecy. Cause they're mostly divine garbage bins with bad temperments.

  • @uncommon_nettle
    @uncommon_nettle Рік тому +138

    Okay, but Neo killing the brothers of hector. That moment was just 🙌

  • @drewerdyy
    @drewerdyy Рік тому +131

    1:27 THAT SWORD SPIN I CANNOT AHHHH

  • @riverpubby
    @riverpubby Рік тому +40

    EYO YOU DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE HECTOR'S SON SO BABY MODE
    LIKE, IT REALLY SHOVES IT IN YOUR FACE THAT THIS IS JUST A *CHILD* THAT ODYSSEUS IS BEING TOLD TO KILL
    10/10

  • @felix.dagenais
    @felix.dagenais Рік тому +108

    Might be completely off the mark, but was Odysseus removing his helmet in front of Astyanax intended as a parallel to Iliad book 6? Hector removes his helmet in front of Astyanax, both because it’s scares him and to symbolise Hector’s duality: there is Hector the warrior and Hector the family man. In having Odysseus do the same, alongside the lyrics that emphasise his paternal instincts, it could be read as a deliberate comparison of the two. This idea is kind of furthered by Odysseus’ motivation for killing Astyanax: to protect his family, which was Hector’s entire motivation for fighting in the Iliad. There is also the brilliant irony of Odysseus ending what Hector fought so hard to save in order to protect his own wife and son.
    I think all this proves is that Classics A Level morphed my brain and the damage is permanent

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 місяці тому +3

      But also the contrast, in the end, Hector Always Chose Honor and pride over His family

  • @VintKnight
    @VintKnight Рік тому +446

    AHHHHH this was so good, fucking love the way you portray Odysseus's turmoil and the way you drew Astyanax grown up not as looking like a human, but like a monster which ngl would fit "when does a man become a monster" part in Just a Man

  • @adeleaslan8182
    @adeleaslan8182 6 місяців тому +31

    Obsessed with how you had Odysseus take his helmet off to look at Asyntax , when in the Iliad he didn't recognize his dad Hector because of his helmet

  • @imaginedrawing6336
    @imaginedrawing6336 Рік тому +471

    Oh my god, I’m so glad you’re doing this song! Odysseus’s inner turmoil is such a bop

  • @elgringo4923
    @elgringo4923 Рік тому +224

    this is actually perfect. The historically accurate gown and the swords! You actually started in the horse! The way you showed every dude in the intro in battle!
    Not to mention the quality of animation!
    this is easily my favorite Horse and the Infant animatic of all of them

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 місяці тому

      If WE how with the illiad though, Odysseus would have worn a helmet/ cap Made from leather and hog tusks, IT IS one of the exlpicitly described things

  • @ForTheGoldenOak
    @ForTheGoldenOak 7 місяців тому +34

    I love how little Ajax is a child here, knowing that he's a grown ass man😂 That's so funny

    • @mado-wh4jv
      @mado-wh4jv Місяць тому +4

      I assumed it was "Little Ajax Jr." Aka Eurysaces

  • @tyrain9846
    @tyrain9846 5 місяців тому +83

    The camera sweeping around him during "I can raise him as my own" is SOOO incredible. Absolutely gave me chills.
    But I love everything about this.
    The way you use the light at the beginning. That you zoom out to the horse's eye during "slay" is so cool, so menacing. Love how you depict all the different tasks he gives everyone.
    And oh my oh my how beautiful is Penelope?
    I mean I'm obsessed with your Ody as well! Aaahhh just love it!

  • @joshuawilson8804
    @joshuawilson8804 Рік тому +115

    What's interesting about the song and prophecy is that Ancient Greeks believed one cannot prevent fate. Meaning that Odysseus can't change what will happen to him...
    But also like the Ancient Greeks they would argue different meanings of the stories. Hence why Library Alexandria had a ton of commentary of the meaning Illiad.
    Since we don't know what happens after Odysseus gets home... We may not know which version of Odysseus action will be in indulging or turning away, because this is the Musical interpretation of the story. And things often have been reframed. But that's my two cents.

    • @renamami
      @renamami Рік тому +27

      I believe that one ending says that Odysseus is killed by the son he had with Circe, so in a way he was killed by his kid. It just wasn't Astyanax

    • @joshuawilson8804
      @joshuawilson8804 Рік тому +17

      ​@@renamami Interesting, actually never heard of that ending. And looking it up it appears Odysseus dies like a chump about cattle. And in another I looked up he died of old age.
      I was more pointing out the story changes with each new author. Story beats stay the same but some myths (and plays) change wildly. I know in the next song, to me at least, it is unclear if he goes through with it or not. And we might not know unless its performed on stage, or kept vague for interpretation.

  • @DennisPragerIsGodUWU
    @DennisPragerIsGodUWU Рік тому +214

    My sister is into Epic and whenever we were on the road she explained this song to me.
    This song is now stuck in my head as "The Baby Murder Song"

  • @red4679
    @red4679 Рік тому +253

    OH MY GODS GIGI that sequence from 0:36 to 0:52 was absolute PERFECTION! I can not stop rewatching it!

    • @milleypana9408
      @milleypana9408 Рік тому +2

      Same I've been watching it non stop im obssesed

    • @ritajitpal3323
      @ritajitpal3323 Рік тому +4

      That part's got me hooked really... The camera movement, angles like it's a masterpiece

    • @khairulazwansaadon3059
      @khairulazwansaadon3059 Рік тому

      Yeah right the part was soo good

  • @reader121
    @reader121 7 місяців тому +43

    0:50 oh.. the son of Achilles

  • @hannadobynes2635
    @hannadobynes2635 5 місяців тому +20

    "The blood on your hands is something you won't lose all you have to choose is whose" ... damn Zeus

  • @rustyshackle8000
    @rustyshackle8000 Рік тому +130

    You were able to breathe so much character and epth into Odysseus, alongside the phenomenal song. Odysseus has always been my favorite Greek hero, and you've only cemented that. I wouldn't say it's a problem per say, but a lot of Greek myths rarely really went into the psychology of the characters. We never see how the war effected Odysseus, or how the loss of his men did, but this depicts him as a genuine intelligent, promising man corrupted and led astray by the whims of selfish, destructive gods and their petty disputes.

  • @gamerane06yt
    @gamerane06yt Рік тому +75

    I love the way you show emotion and i love how you portray Odysseus begging to Zeus to have him do anything else but kill this child. You can see how he doesn't want to do it and the way his emotion is portrayed is beautiful. I love how he throws his sword and gets on his knees while trying to give other choices instead of killing him. He really doesn't want to hurt the boy. Zeus is telling him what will happen who will get hurt but Odysseus still has refusal in his eyes. Zeus is telling him that the people he cares most for will get hirt but Odysseus cares so much he can't bring himself to do it. He has to make a choice.

  • @AntonNight
    @AntonNight 4 місяці тому +19

    Dang, moments like this remind me that Zeus was not a very just or kind figure. Someone once told me that there was something in Homer’s works that indicated Zeus wanted the Trojan War to happen to…basically clear the board of demigod heroes, mainly those descended from him, for fear of them overthrowing him in a repeat of the Titanomachy.
    So him not only pointing Odysseus’ fear and paranoia at an innocent child, but making it clear that he’d make sure that child turned into a threat even if Odysseus did his best to avoid that, seems entirely in character for any version of him that isn’t made family friendly.

  • @littlebitsofterror5788
    @littlebitsofterror5788 Рік тому +29

    The messed up part of all this if he adopts the child and changes his name and raised him on his own. One of the Greek gods will find away to manipulate the kid into becoming Troys avenger. Because this entire war was just that manipulation of the gods.

  • @nicestpancake
    @nicestpancake 2 місяці тому +10

    My favourite part about these animatics is that Penelope always looks different and yet she's always the most beautiful woman I've ever seen

  • @tarniabook3076
    @tarniabook3076 Рік тому +29

    I loved how you showed Hector's son removing the tapestry and crying because of his lost home, like he would if he lived and learned about it.

  • @Garanseho
    @Garanseho Рік тому +86

    Diomedes jumping out of the Trojan horse gives me chills! Fantastic job!

    • @Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin
      @Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin 11 місяців тому +10

      Diomedes was such an absolute legend, nearly killed Aphrodite son by throwing a boulder at him and ever attacked Aphrodite herself when she came to rescue her boy.

    • @cephalonsark1530
      @cephalonsark1530 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosine's always been my favorite greek hero. Love that guy.

  • @justcallmeAna07
    @justcallmeAna07 6 місяців тому +17

    WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMATION IN THE PART WHERE ODYSSEUS IS TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN?! IT'S GORGEUS AND VERY SMOOTH, HELP-!!

  • @alleymills3300
    @alleymills3300 Рік тому +87

    okay, this is the first song i've heard from this musical but lemme tell you. my hyperfixation is flaring. the music has the type of vibes hamilton did but with the added glory of pantheon nerd joy! this is everything to me. you're animatic just made it so much better!!!

    • @PhobiaDeimos
      @PhobiaDeimos Рік тому +2

      Exactly!! This song has Yorktown and my shot vibes w a lil of who lives who dies

  • @HanaLu795
    @HanaLu795 4 місяці тому +15

    Nah! How dare you make Astyanax that cute!!! It only makes it hurt more! 😭
    But seriously, I love this! You truly brought the entire song to life.

  • @karararara8806
    @karararara8806 Рік тому +82

    Okay, i love it. The camera mouvement when Odysseus try to negociate with Zeus ("i will raise him as my own") is PERFECT. So dramatic, really feel the whole tragedy of this moment. Great job I love your work !!

  • @m.a.9648
    @m.a.9648 Рік тому +71

    no because this is by far the best iteration of this song!!! the horse?? zeus in the clouds??? ody knocking down the door and realizing it's a baby?? MWAH PERFECTION

  • @max.cozplayz
    @max.cozplayz 4 місяці тому +10

    I CAN'T EXPRESS HOW MUCH I LOVE THE SECTION WHERE HE'S JUST TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO

  • @Anonymous-ng4wc
    @Anonymous-ng4wc 5 місяців тому +19

    2:50 THIS IS THE SON OF NONE OTHER THAN TROY’S VERY OWN PRINCE HECTOR 😫 😫 😫

  • @dormishaeli
    @dormishaeli Рік тому +115

    This, this is just so incredible! One of the things I like most about seeing the different animatics to these songs is the different approach each one takes: The preparations inside of the horse, Zeus being in the clouds\the clouds and the mist leading Odysseus, and something about the fact Astyanax being awake and looking at him - just made it so much more devastating! This is so good!

  • @chardude
    @chardude 4 місяці тому +6

    "Hey guys. Is the new giant horse singing?"

  • @Bri-zy1uz
    @Bri-zy1uz Рік тому +21

    the detail!!! the way you drew Zeus and how you portrayed him!! and UGH THE WAY ODYSSEUS WAS DRAWN like he was mentally ready until he realized “Oh it’s an infant!! no harm!!” And then the DREAD ON HIS FACE

  • @vansdump
    @vansdump 2 місяці тому +5

    Hey! This is the first time I've clicked on anything related to EPIC the musical, I don't know what it's about (except that it has to do with Greek myths) but this animatic has had me crying for the past 5 minutes. I was watching it for the very first time, and at first I was so excited because "omg, the trojan war!!!" and odysseus was hyping everybody up and i was like "omg !!! this is so fun!!!!" but then the what do you fight for // penelope // thelemacus part came on and I started tearing up and getting goosebumps, and by the time the song ended I was full-on bawling!! So, yeah. I just wanted to let you know that I think your work is so incredible!! Even without context your work got real emotions out of me haha

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain 2 місяці тому +1

      It's the musical version of the "Odyssey".

  • @user-PersephoneCore
    @user-PersephoneCore 6 місяців тому +7

    The disgust in his face at 3:07 is just so realistic ;-: The horror he felt at being told he needed to kill a child.

  • @_primrse_1252
    @_primrse_1252 4 місяці тому +5

    BABY ASTYNAX IS SO CUTE AND SQUISHY!!! WHY DID HE HAVE TO BE SPLATTED 😭

  • @monikaceglarek2827
    @monikaceglarek2827 Місяць тому +3

    Odysseus: Dude, hold my beer I'm ready.
    Narrator: He was not ready.

  • @Lestappen1633
    @Lestappen1633 5 місяців тому +14

    Zeus: off the child, Odysseus😌
    Ody: I could raise him as my own...
    Zeus: nah, he would totally rip your throat out
    Ody: Or send him far away from home...
    Zeus: ... he will find you? Duh, just uninstall him from life, jeez, what's the big deal?
    Ody: Make sure his past is never known...
    Zeus: I swear to me, I'll tell him it was your bratty little a$$ that reenacted that horse scene from Hannibal only to burn his house
    Ody: I'm on my knees for you
    Zeus: ...
    Ody: I'm begging, please
    Zeus: I'm gonna tell Poseidon about you... THROW THAT CHILD RIGHT NOW, HERE, YOU SEE THIS WINDOW? YEET THE CHILD... ehem, I mean... This is the will of the Gods or whatever

  • @JackyHunter
    @JackyHunter Рік тому +46

    This is amazing! I especially love the moment at 1:45 - I've always wondered what might happen in that scene and this is just the perfect explanation! Also how Odysseus is led to the infant's room by Zeus is such an interesting approach, I have not seen that in any other animatic to this song yet. It is very well made!

  • @ayvorii
    @ayvorii 5 місяців тому +7

    Omg the when the songs music changes to the lullaby notes, its gutwrenching

  • @hello-lz4xj
    @hello-lz4xj 2 місяці тому +7

    "BUT NOW WE'LL BE THE ONES TO ✨slay✨💅"

  • @RodolfoPimenta1998
    @RodolfoPimenta1998 Рік тому +5

    The blood on your hands is something you won't lose, all you can choose is who's is the coldest line ever, damn.

  • @user-nh2bf8tt1p
    @user-nh2bf8tt1p Місяць тому +3

    Oh my goodness, this gives me such a throwback to freshman year! (I went to a private high school where, in our freshman year, we were required to read the Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Aenead. I liked all of them, but the Odyssey was BY FAR my favourite, and Odysseus was my favourite Greek hero.) I'm also a MASSIVE mythology geek so seeing all these characters is just...AAAAAAAAA
    Seeing this is bringing me ridiculous amounts of joy! I'm so, so happy other people are becoming more interested in the Odyssey! Homer is seriously one of the greatest poets, artists, writers, etc in history!
    Also I just got out of my Hamilton phase, why you throw me back into another Hamilton-esque style of musical again ;-;

  • @maythegreat2989
    @maythegreat2989 Рік тому +17

    the sword spin is so CLEAN

  • @SingingSealRiana
    @SingingSealRiana 2 місяці тому +6

    I love the detail of the easy to scale wall!

  • @scaredann0453
    @scaredann0453 8 місяців тому +15

    I don’t think he was ready💀 2:23

  • @davidlegitsurname177
    @davidlegitsurname177 4 місяці тому +7

    One thing which keeps catching my attention in this song -- the lack of a rhyme in this section:
    > This is none other than the son of prince Hector
    > Know that he will grow from a boy to an avenger
    To me, at least, the natural rhyme which echoes in my ears for "Hector" is "protector" -- but because of the brutality of the war, there are no protectors left, only avengers. Odysseus tries to be a protector in this animatic, offering to raise the orphaned son as his own and opening his house in gentleness, but the gods deny him that chance: he can only avenge or be avenged, in a spinning wheel of blood feuds ignited by the war and death.

  • @kiratheusagiisworkshop5266
    @kiratheusagiisworkshop5266 Рік тому +26

    Oh I love how you did the vison and Zeus! The vision attacking and Zeus being in the clouds and as a hawk is perfection!

  • @rubabfatima-mx8fc
    @rubabfatima-mx8fc Рік тому +6

    "today we will slaaaaaay"" "yass queen"

  • @Nova_Darkwood
    @Nova_Darkwood 6 місяців тому +7

    My teacher played this after we read the prologue of the Odyssey, found it at home cuz i was half asleep in the classroom. Good shyite man!

  • @helenavictoriac.9498
    @helenavictoriac.9498 Рік тому +63

    Definitely my best animation of Epic. You are so talented 💖
    The first to put the Horse in the animation REALLY GLORIOUS
    Love from Argentina 🇦🇷

  • @UnfaithfulFangirl
    @UnfaithfulFangirl Місяць тому +2

    My heart, it hurts. His pleading had me crying, vocals alone had no effect but the visuals? nah. that was powerful and painful.

  • @Queen_Monkey
    @Queen_Monkey Рік тому +51

    I am so inspired by you. You are one of my favorite art creators, I LOVE THIS MUSICAL I AM SO EXCITED

  • @chefgrace2959
    @chefgrace2959 Рік тому +22

    you included an ARC SHOT in this! that is my favorite camera technique be cuase it has so many different meanings depending on how you do it! the way you did it here, 3:16, successfully conveyed the desperation of Odyssyus, pleading, begging, and searching for another way that this could end. Well done!!

  • @The.therian.apollo.kid.
    @The.therian.apollo.kid. 3 місяці тому +4

    The baby just looking at
    Odysesus like
    "Sup"

  • @user-rk1fw2pq5i
    @user-rk1fw2pq5i Рік тому +14

    I admit, first time I saw Neo scene at the beginning I got chilled… 😨 it is so well-done !

  • @electricorcagaming
    @electricorcagaming Рік тому +10

    What do you live for
    What do you try for
    What do you wish for
    What do you fight for
    This is a quote I need to remember when coming up with DND characters cuz the answers give so much!

  • @dua_junaid
    @dua_junaid Рік тому +22

    *This is officially the best one I’ve watched.* The others people are producing are good, but they don’t have nearly as much vision and dynamism as yours!! You’re so skilled, amazing job!!!

  • @alibabba243
    @alibabba243 Рік тому +12

    1:40 the last time someone tried to climb the wall it didn't end well

    • @alibabba243
      @alibabba243 Рік тому +5

      @patroclies yes, from the Song of Achilles 🥲

  • @crystallight808
    @crystallight808 9 місяців тому +9

    I like how the part where Zeus comes in has the same beat as "survive" or that "survive" has the same beat as this!
    showing how in those moments our main character boy here (who I don't want to try to remember the name of) becomes a monster,
    like in "just a man" where he tries to figure out the difference between; a man and a monster,
    but later on in "my goodbye" Athena says
    (with the disembodied voices of the Dead) 'you're just a man'; after he decides to spare the Cyclops which shows that he is no longer a monster! he's given up on that,
    and also the fact that Athena told him to kill the Cyclops-much like! how Zeus told him to kill the child!

  • @Florence_the_fleur
    @Florence_the_fleur 3 місяці тому +10

    2:30 made me wanna cry

  • @kristiancroft245
    @kristiancroft245 Місяць тому +1

    "I can raise him as my own, or send him far away from home, make sure his past is never known" just hits the ears so good

  • @liligirl9012
    @liligirl9012 Рік тому +31

    Amazing animatic as always! You are so good at portraying feeling in all of your art. I love how smooth all the tramsitions were for the whole "giving the roles" thing (Agamemnon will flank the guards part). The part where Odyseous is pleading with Zeus is just- chef's kiss.
    Your animatics always make me love the songs way more than I would if I had only listened to the audio. The art/visuals you do always add so much life and emotion into the song!

  • @RheaZenko
    @RheaZenko 2 місяці тому +7

    Funny thing about the Infant section; there is an 'alternate telling' where the boy (Astyanax) does survive. He is taken away from Greece, renamed "Francus" and grows up. He does not seek revenge nor knows anything about his parentage, ends up founding the beginning of France and becomes an ancestor to Charlemagne. So yeah, Zeus lied.

    • @terra4822
      @terra4822 2 місяці тому +3

      But that is a BIG maybe alternative timeline.
      The Gods that were on Trojan would made sure that Astyanax knows about his heritage and push him to vengeance.
      So Zeus didn't lie.

  • @seiko8941
    @seiko8941 2 місяці тому +4

    When I heard the words “tell me how” I instantly thought about Survive

  • @vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450
    @vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 3 місяці тому +7

    I think this moment decided the rest of the journey back to Ithaca, this here was Odysseus choosing ruthlessness, to prioritize his survival before anything else, and the rest of the quest was the remarking and consequences of this display: The Cyclops, Aeolus, Circe, Poseidon, every time he tried to choose mercy he was punished because he had already sold his soul, he didn't commit to his decision and that's why fate kept him from reaching home until he developed the resolve equivalent to commiting an act of monstruosity, he kept insisting on how unchanged he was, on his purity and perfection, and for that, and only after accepting his actions, he came back to Ithaca a failure.

    • @Akindex
      @Akindex 3 місяці тому +2

      This is amazing

  • @remmingtonburdine
    @remmingtonburdine 3 місяці тому +15

    I love how when it says, “The blood on your hands is something you won’t lose, all you can choose is whose.” It’s implying no matter what someone is dying, either the infant or everyone he loves.

  • @HyacinthFlowers
    @HyacinthFlowers 6 місяців тому +6

    "But now we'll be the ones who'll slay 💅💅💅"

  • @K1NG0FW0LV35
    @K1NG0FW0LV35 10 днів тому +2

    the beginning of a tragic story of a struggling hero...... I love this musical so much. It brings such a amazing perspective into the Odyssey.

  • @justinejacildo
    @justinejacildo 4 місяці тому +3

    tonight we will be the ✨SLAY ✨

  • @xXDisturbedFoxXx
    @xXDisturbedFoxXx 8 днів тому +1

    Just love when the realization hits. The war song softly switches to a lullaby theme

  • @Tantalus308
    @Tantalus308 Місяць тому +2

    Odysseus: "I'm ready for the boss fight."
    Walks into arena, sees baby.

  • @Anykindofarmor
    @Anykindofarmor 4 місяці тому +5

    Neo has been through it