In the Prog Seat: Ranking the Albums- Roger Waters
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Join Pete Pardo, Martin Popoff, Steven Reid, Luis Nasser, Rick LaBonte, and Armando Venditti as they rank the solo albums of Pink Floyd legend Roger Waters. #rogerwaters
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It was fantastic to be a part of this episode. And to be in the company of Martin Popoff and engage in conversation was an honor. I again want to thank Pete Pardo for including me in this discussion. Along with Mr. Steven Reid, Mr. Luis Nasser & Mr. Rick Labonte. All of you bring 110% to the table. You all make me strive to do the same. I hope everybody enjoys this episode.
Loved the episode. You are always a great panelist.
@@lionelraoul Thank you very much Lionel.
Thanks Armando you are always a great pleasure to listen to and even though I might not always agree I respect your opinion and it gives me new perspective...
Cheers Armando. Much love.
I appreciate that Pete listening to his viewers that requested for Roger Waters that he went and bought all four for this show because of us!! He is a class act!!
Hi Rick Labonte it's good to see you on tonight. How's your band doing? I've still been listening to your music. Are you still playing?
I like the design behind you. That cool looking
Agree Rick, cool move by Pete
@@ericporter344 yes Eric I have to agree with what you said. I feel bad for Jon thedarkwizard but I don't go on live chat. I don't know if he'll get my message.
@@melaniethurber5117 Thanks you get that on T - Shirt to support SoT channel
Amused To Death in 5.1 is astonishing to hear. The only one I bought because of 6 songs featuring Jeff Beck.
Ballad of Bill Hubbard is incredibly sad and beautiful. Beck's tone is on another plane of existence! That's why he's my favorite Yardbirds alum.
@@ScottyKirk1 mine too. I still have my What God Wants Pt. 1 vhs tape from 1992 featuring the MTV video.
@@shyshift Awesome! I had the Radio KAOS VHS thingy and also the WGW single CD along with the Berlin Sampler with the new version of Another Brick pt 2. Ohhhh the good old days of collecting physical media.
It's the best one to have!
Wonderful show! Everyone at their absolute articulate best - it speaks volumes that a four-album catalog can generate such a compelling 110-minute show.
It absolutely does Martin. Thanks for watching!
This was a fantastic watch, what a way for me to kick off a Wednesday morning. I've always felt Roger Waters was underappreciated on this channel, so I'm glad the solo albums finally got some discussion. Kudos to Pete for finally giving the albums a chance.
Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is so good. I listen to it more than almost every Pink Floyd album.
The 'man of the match' on this show was Luis. His viewpoints were eloquent and on point; as in they agreed with mine!
Great show fella’s i have to say Amused to Death is Roger’s masterpiece its flawless
Too long and a victim of the CD age. Reason I love KAOS is that it’s 42 minutes long and gets the songs across especially with the dialogue removed version of the album. Amused is too long and parts drag on and the fact that he needed 150 musicians on the album and Roger griped about Gilmour having 15 musicians on Momentary Lapse. The Division Bell was the core lineup of Gilmour/Wright/Mason and Guy Pratt as the core band on the album.
Luis Nasser earned a fan tonight. Great show.
You are too kind. Cheers!
Luis is always a joy to listen to. Interesting, funny, insightful and hugely knowledgeable. And the same can be said for the rest of the In The Prog Seat panels too. Such a pleasure to be involved and offer my little thoughts along the way!
@@lahloonatic Luis, I'd like to hear your take on Radiohead. I'm a convert. And I can't budge our wonderful host, Pete.
@@guadalahonky4002 I was thinking this exact thing during the show. I'd love to hear Luis' thoughts on Radiohead. I imagine they might be a bit too "soft" for him, but he'd like their melancholic, bittersweet vibes and prog elements.
Roger Waters is the required beautiful wrench inserted against the cogs of the grey machine. Thank you gents, that was a great show.
Thanks for mentioning Jeff Beck, Rick Labonte. I've been shouting at the screen for over an hour!
I’ve been big into Waters solo since I was 15, right before the In The Flesh tour. (saw him at Providence Civic Center back in July 2000)
Ranking:
1. Amused To Death
2. Pros and Cons
3. ITTLWRW
4. Radio KAOS
Deja Vu is arguably the perfect Roger Waters song, otherwise Radio KAOS would be my third pick. Sentimental reasons, but some of the B-sides were pretty memorable as well.
That In the flesh album..Is a great live album.
Nice, I was at that Civic Center show in 2000 too.
Deja Vu was better and more upbeat by Maiden
Good morning from our corner in the Mediterranean where Waters has come as part of his tours. Really spectacular.
1. Amused to Death
2. Is this really what we want?
3. Radio KAOS
4. The pros and cons of hitchhiking
Some of my favorite songs, Three wishes. Powers that be, Picture this, What God wants, It's a Miracle.
Amazing presentation on one of the greatest musicians of our times. My ranking of these 4 RWs albums as under :
1. Amused to Death
2. Is this the Life we ...? (Amused to Death part II)
3. RADIO KAOS
4. The pros and cons of HH.
Saw him in 84 in Toronto with Clapton on guitar. Then he came back a few months later with another guitarist. Then saw him a few more times over the years. 5 minutes of 70’s Floyd live would mean more to me than all of Roger’s solo material combined.
I saw both in 1987 and I can say I was just as entertained by both. However, you tell people you saw Pink Floyd and 98% will know the name. Tell people you saw Roger Waters and you get a blank stare. Over time, it warps your perception of the event, IMO.
I saw the Phoenix AZ show in 1984, this had Clapton. Still the best concert of my life. I saw Pink Floyd in about 1994 w/o Waters of course and it didn't measure up to Waters show. PF had a huge stage show, Waters show only had a black backdrop where videos played. The sound and visuals at the Waters show took you to outer space. The Floyd show without Waters I'd put in my top 10, Neil Young is the only artist I've seen that's better than Waters or anyone for that matter live. And I've seen a lot of great shows.
Thank you so much for this! He is such an underrated genius.
What a great show guys. The perfect 'panelists' for this topic and I could have listened to this for another hour. Congrats guys. You nailed this one.
By far Waters' best release is "Amused to Death" but there are good moments is each one. Anger is the problem with Waters. For the most part we enjoy music of all kinds for a release from the stress in our lives which is the biggest issue here. Oh. Great group of guys here - I would love to share some adult drinks with you guys and talk music. Well done.
Thanks William, good to hear you enjoyed the show!
Anger has never been a problem for Roger, only for others who are uncomfortable by it.
Pete, Thank you to you and the crew for rating Roger Waters solo albums. I am a huge fan of Roger and think he is a genius and his commentary/warnings are all spot on and have been going back to Dark Side and even before.
I loved all the thoughtful and insightful commentary from you and all the great guests. Thank you.
Interesting topic Pete thanks for doing a ranking show on Roger Waters. Mason, Barrett and Wright all had some great solo projects too!
Luis has perfect timing, when he said that Radio K.A.O.S. Dreadful his Wi-Fi put it in slow mo. 😆
The votes are in! If we translate each guest's ranking into points (4, 3, 2 and 1 point), then we get the following result:
22 points: Amused to Death
17 points: Is This The Life We Really Want?
14 points: The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
7 points: Radio K.A.O.S.
4. Is This the Life We Really Want; 3. Pros and Cons; 2. Amused to Death; 1. Radio K.A.O.S.
I know that Amused is the better album (especially in 5.1), but K.A.O.S. is the album that got me into Waters/Floyd. Had front row seats at his concert in the Meadowlands (K.A.O.S. tour) I snuck in a camera and took pictures. At the intermission security came over and told me that Roger wanted me to stop. It could have been worse, he could have spit on me.
Cheers for the Radio KAOS love and for the spit comment, which made me chuckle.
Again, thanks to Pete for bringing Armando, Luis, Martin, Rick and Steven to the show for this interesting show. Usually have to save this for Wednesday morning viewing and Steven's beginning set the tone for some great expectations for the discussions and rankings and those expectations were more than meant. Thanks, gents, for your time in helping make these In The Prog Seat episodes always worth the time to watch. Cheers!
great episode Pete.. your calm and even keeled demeanor allows all the guests to get their thoughts out.
Pete, et al, great job, as always. I’m a Waters disciple, primarily more the PF era, but I just think he is an absolute genius. Don’t always agree with him, but I could listen to him for hours. Having said that, I haven’t been a huge fan of his solo work, but I think I need to mirror Pete and listen to them again. Thanks so much for such an enlightening and entertaining show! Loved it!!
i can Remember hearing amused to death in the early 90's as a high schooler.I had the casette. I also played it the whole day..With my walkman
This was a cool episode -- I really appreciate Pete digging into a catalog he's not seriously into and trying to give Waters his due. And an interesting point to Louis Nasser -- it sounds like in "Amused to Death", Waters is referencing Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" more than Orwell's "1984", the big difference in the dystopian worlds is that Huxley imagines that people are given so much ego-numbing entertainment (and psychological conditioning) that they're too complacent in their pleasures (and afraid of changes) to step out of line.
Kind of where we are now in dystopia.
My opinion is we are purposefully mired in political, social, religious, and economic division.
This is to keep us divided and fighting one another. We're in a neofeudal system where the rich and powerful run and control everything and pass down crumbs at best.
But they feed us false hope and dreams while they would have us all engage in money and consumption worship.
My opinion. Yours may differ.
"Is the Life We Really Want?" is as close to "Animals" as Roger got, it's an amazing record, the key to enjoying the album is to remember that this is a songwriter's record but with a big budget production, though I think Waters was held back by Nigel Godrich.
I think it’s Roger’s best solo album by miles.
I agree, Godrich made the album too long and too samey. If you're going to have a long album, make it musically varied. Give it some space, like Amused to Death, which I consider a masterpiece. But apparently Godrich found ATD "impenetrable", which to me is much more applicable to Is This the Life. Still, a strong album with some incredibly beautiful stuff on it.
@@nectarinedreams7208If I had produced I would have ensured that Roger completed the Yardbird trifecta and having James Patrick Page solo his ass off.
Rick, you're great. I'm a Canadian neighbor. We gotta talk rock music.
Cheers
This has been my favourite ever episode on SOT, thank you Pete for making it happen. Roger Waters is my all time favourite artist and this is the first time I've ever sat and listened to people as passionate as I am about these albums and it's been f@cking amazing!! I tend to agree with a lot of what Steven Reid says and my respect for him has only increased after this. However it's Luis who really captured my own feelings about Mr Waters on this episode, I have been moved to tears listening to your passion and love for these absolute masterpieces. Thanks to you all for sharing your views on what I consider to be a criminally under-appreciated catalog. My own personal ranking is ;
4. Radio Kaos
3. The Pros & Cons of Hitchhiking
2. Is This The Life We Really Want?
1. Amused To Death
Amazing show Pete. Loved the discussion. Roger is often misunderstood and hated. Radio would be my #4 but it’s impossible to rank the other 3 as I love them equally. Love how Steven and Luis go into so much detail all the time on these shows. I love all of SOT content. In The Prog Seat is 2nd only to The Monsters Den. But that’s because Chris Alo is King!!!! Thanks Pete for SOT.
Thanks Sam. This was a great show to be part of!
@@TranquilityFireReid Steven have you ever thought about starting your own channel? It could be something as simple as going through your music collection and talking about each record/cd, etc. As detailed as you get I think it would be awesome. I for one would subscribe right away. Thanks for what you bring to SOT. You are much appreciated.
@@gagslv As always Sam, I really do appreciate your support. Thank you. It's not really something I've thought about really, but maybe it is worth some consideration. The biggest issue is maybe whether I can find the 48 hours in ever day that Pete manages to conjure up to keep everything running the way he does!? 😁
This is a wonderful episode. Intelligent, insightful commentary from everyone. I appreciate that Pete brought in such a great cast of people who are all bigger fans of the Waters catalogue, rather than just tossing off a solo ranking. My own ranking is very subjective and largely based on seniority. 1. Pros and Cons - 2. Radio KAOS - 3. Amused to Death - 4. Is This the Life. In reality, I absolutely cherish all four albums. The sound of Radio KAOS is simply a part of it's character and place in time for me. After 35 years, I grasp the story much better than I used to. As Luis mentioned, The Tide is Turning is an anomaly, due to it's hopeful nature. I get tears in my eyes every time he sings about those kids in the sun, wresting control from the hands of the warlords. It seemed like the tide really was turning for a while. Alas, it never really turned, which brings us to the resignation of Is This the Life We Really Want?, As Stephen smartly observed. I found this episode quite moving and thought provoking. It made me wish I could have been there to discuss these albums with such a cool group of people who understand and appreciate what Roger does so well. Kudos gentlemen. This is definitely a top five Sea of Tranquility show for me.
Thank you for such a compliment Bill and also for such a thoughtful post.
@@TranquilityFireReid you are quite welcome, Stephen.
I am going to get into these Roger Water albums. I'm way behind the 8ball on this topic but looking forward to it. Great discussion, folks, really nice to watch.
Hi Pete, just wanted to drop a thank you comment, as it’s almost been a year since I’ve watched your content. You pushed me from listening to a handful of artists to being an outright music junkie! Damn you for making me blow my money on records LOL! I will continue to watch your channel, you are the paragon among music discussion channels! Before I go, I’ve got 2 questions. 1, do you put your cds into Discogs, and 2, where can people drop music recommendations for future reviews. Thanks!
Hi Tristan, if you go to the community page on the SoT channel, Pete has set up a thread for topic suggestions in there. That would be the best place for future review suggestions etc. Thanks for watching!
Amused To Death is a Top 5 favorite album of all time for me
Great show. I don't have ls This The Life We Really Want.
So, my rankings are:
3- Radio KAO
2 - Pros and Cons
1 - Amused to Death.
I bought Amused when it came out on Cassette as the vinyl was hard to find and pricey at the time. CD was not an option, l played it alot.
A few years later I picked it up n a Virgin sale for £4.00. It looked nice on my shelf with my other Roger albums. Then about 4 years ago I picked up Flickering Flame again for £4.00, hearing the tracks made me think I haven't heard that album in a while. I was then amusing myself pretty much for the next few weeks. I not only remembered it word for word, but noticed things that had slipped me by. A masterpiece that makes perfect sense.
Thanks a lot to Pete and the gang, a really entertaining show, still doing catch up with the shows.
Great Session !
In the Flesh tour...Roger and the band played cards onstage during "Dogs" appreciation
Clapton does the best guitar work he's ever done on Pros & Cons.. imo. That is a top 10 album on my playlist, has been since it's release. And happens to be the best live show I've ever seen and it was not an elaborate stage set up. Very intimate.
1. Amused to Death
2. The Pro and Cons of Hitch Hiking
3. Is This the Life We Really Want?
4. Radio K.A.O.S.
Luis, I agree w/your comments a majority of the time. I feel the same way about Eric Clapton. I was never a fan but, I always respected him as a guitar player. I heard about his racist rant in the seventies and excused it as him being on drugs. His right-wing views however seem to be a part of his DNA and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I even sold the one Eric Clapton I had because I can't listen someone I don't respect.
I'm not a huge prog nerd but I love watching the show for the insightful comments, especially yours. Keep up the good work. BTW, you're a real trooper for showing up that day you were in the hospital. Man, that some serious dedication!
funny the left wing bs leaves the same bad taste from other artists. starting with that sun city bs in the 80s..they have terrible rapes and killings going on now down there , but all the musicians had their lofty left wing bs ideas without actually following through with implementation....I learned to not listen the the politics especially from musicians because most of them are ignorant outside of their craft.. both sides
@@michaelfrazia4569 What does rape, or murder have to do w/protesting oppression in another country?! The United States has more rapes and murders than any developed country so what's your point?! Everyone, whether I agree w/them or not, has a right to say whatever they want. I have the right to disagree w/them and not support their work. If you agree w/Eric Clapton or any other right-leaning person, that's your right too. My thing if you're going to spew crap like Nugent or Clapton don't come crying about the blowback you get!
@@kimberlywalker3970 Very well said. Nugent is so gross. Yuck.
@@nectarinedreams7208 Don't get me started on that creep. You and I are in complete agreement!
1. Amused to Death -- A masterpiece.
2. The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
3. Is This the Life We Really Want?
4. Radio K.A.O.S. -- Like the concept but the 80s production values turn me off, except on the closing track, "The Tide is Turning."
5. The Soldier's Tale (Although he basically provides only narration.)
6. Ca Ira (Although he doesn't perform on it.)
7. Music from the Body (with Ron Geesin)
HM: Love his 24 minute suite that ends the soundtrack to "When the Wind Blows."
Martin's face when Pete presents "Is This The Life We Really Want?" as Waters' worst album: priceless. :-)
I love hearing Martin speak about music, even though I usually dont agree with him!
4. Is this the life we really want?
3. Amused to Death
2. Radio KAOS
1. The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking
Amused to death might just be the greatest work of rogers career. Pink Floyd or otherwise.
1) Amused To Death
2) Is this the life we really want?
3) Pros and Cons
4) Radio Chaos
I'd say easily...
I agree with Pete about “Is This The Life We Really Want?” I think the majority of the album is boring and it meanders, it’s my least favorite of the 4, but Steven gives a compelling argument for the album too. Despite the 80’s production, I like “Radio K.A.O.S.”, I saw him on that tour too, the first time I saw him live, I’ve seen him several times after that as well, I don’t really listen to his solo albums either, but I like them, I have to say the “Amused To Death” songs work well live and are the most poignant.
Thanks ssp. I love that we all hear things a little differently. That's the joy in music and doing shows like these.
@@TranquilityFireReid I have to revisit “Is This The Life We Really Want?” because when it was released I was going through a tough time in my life and I was actually tired of Waters and his rants about the world, I just needed more positive stimulus and more upbeat music, so on the few listens I gave it I wasn’t in the frame of mind to listen to it, but I’ll give it another shot.
@@sspbrazil I get that completely. Waters is many things, but he's not an artist to pick you up when things aren't going the way you'd like them to. I'll be interested to hear what you think of that album now.
Amused To Death is for me the best of the four, however I think the music he did for The Body (with Ron Geesen) & When The Wind Blows (half an album) are even better! The Body is more in the style of early 70's Floyd, and When The Wind Blows reminds me a bit of Animals.
Good show tonight , I bought Radio Kaos on cassette when it was first released . Wasn't keen on it at all, though I always liked The Tide is Turning . So I kinda didn't buy any of his solo stuff for years afterwards .
I then read a interview with Mick Box where he was asked to name a album that he thought should have been more successful than it was . He mentioned Amused To Death saying it was vastly underated . So I went and bought it along with The Pros And Cons and the cd version of Radio Kaos . Really loved it and Pros and Cons , Radio Kaos sounded better than I remembered but I agree with everyone on the production and concept. Would be interesting to hear the original demos of that album .
My rankings
1. Amused To Death
2. Is This the Life We Really Want?
3.Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking
4.Radio Kaos
Agree with Steven and Luis about When The Wind Blows a difficult watch but a very important film . I'm sure originally it was Bowie that was signed up to do the soundtrack but he only contributes one song . Flickering Flame is a good collection of Rogers solo songs ideal for someone not familiar with his albums .
Great post Robert. Thanks for watching!
This is not to be missed by anyone David Bowie 'When The Wind Blows' Brilliant!
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Enjoyed the show even though I'm not a big fan of Waters solo output. Amused to Death would be my #1.
Great job guys, only fitting to do a Gilmour ranking next 😁
I am in but I believe Pete had already done that solo
Hey Eric, I'm one of those strange people (not that anyone is surprised by that news!) who probably prefers Roger's solo work over his time with Pink Floyd...
@@TranquilityFireReid nothing strange at all Steven, we like what we like. Often, time changes our views as well, in High School I loved "The Wall". And now, I haven't played it in years, it has some great moments, but to listen from start to finish, I find a lot of it boring
Enjoyed the show!
@@ericporter344 I'm kind of with you on The Wall, but in truth I haven't listened to it in too long a time. I've actually put it at the top of my weekend listening pile after ranking these albums because I need to get it back into my head I think.
@@TranquilityFireReid I should probably do the same, it's been awhile for me too!
Great show, gentlemen! Now I really have to rediscover these albums!
Brave lyrics from Roger,
No bullshit thats for sure cutting edge lyrics.
Amused to Death cover is Genius, great concept album, Same with Is this the life you really want.
1 Amused to Death
2 Is this the life you really want
3 Radio Kaos
4 Pros and cons of hitchhiking.
Great show guys.
I saw Pete smiling during the mentions of The Final Cut. Tell ya what, Pete. Listen to The Final Cut and skip 'Not Own, John,' the sax solo at the end of "Two Suns In The Sunset' is not to be missed, and the title track is the equal of Comfortably Numb. Full stop.
Why in hell would you skip Not Now John? It is the only good song.
@@shyshift Also my only "like" on that album as well...
@@wolf1977 I turned my girlfriend onto that album and it was her favorite. And like Luis, I took her to Roger Waters, The Who, and, lastly to Jethro Tull. The Final Cut was our favorite (next to The Who's - Who Next).
When Roger voices cracks in The Final Cut, it just kills me. I know every word and it's a flawed masterpiece. I hate David's screaming vocals in 'Not Now, John' which has an anti-Asian sentiment in the lyrics. To be fair, 'Desert' takes a whack at arabs, yet 'Not Now, John,' is a dry spot, in a fertile oasis of Roger delivering his innermost fears, into a priest-hole and WE are sitting on the other side, in judgement, of this beautiful aural painting.
@@shyshift If you don't consider The Gunner's Dream or The Final Cut to be a good song, you've truly gone fishing.
Amused to Death sets a standard of album creation that is hardly ever reached. PS it's wonderful to see that Rick has evolved into a butterfly.
Hello Steven my friend. I know exactly what you mean about Radio Chaos and the 80s. You know I'm a diehard Kansas fan. But when Kerry Livgren left in the early 80s, the band became a product of their times and were no longer the fabulously orchestrated prog masters they had been in the 70s. (BTW, I recommend that you grab a copy of Kerry's recently released Cantata. It's certainly not rock & tells a biblical story, but it absolutely shows what an orchestral genius he really is. It has 5 movements; the drums are played by Phil Ehart and there are a large number of great singers - after all, it is a Cantata. But Kerry plays ALL the other instruments. So if you enjoy classical music and aren't offended by religious lyrics, it's a very different but quite adventurous Livgren piece. Don't know of any other rock musicians who could write something like this.)
Agree completely Janice. I haven't heard the Livgren album but it sounds like it's something I'll to check out. Thanks!
I’ve never listened to his solo stuff and I think I’m gonna play some of it tomorrow
With Ca Ira taken, my poll would be so (love all of them):
1. Amused to Death
2. Pros and Cons
3. Ca Ira
4. Radio K.A.O.S
5. IttLWRW?
Roger Waters is a truly unique artist whose lyrics hit harder than his music
That's true, so I don't think he really appeals that much to those for whom lyrics don't matter that much. David Gilmour represents the other side of that coin where the music is far superior (especially if you believe Roger). Maybe that's why PF worked so well, you put those two pieces together & you have complete songs with great music & lyrics...
I disagree. You can't have one without the other. The music in Amused to Death, for example, hits very hard.
Hitchhiking is my favorite Waters Solo
The problem with these shows is I just bought Amused to Death and Is this the Life… without ever hearing them. Thanks a lot!
Fantastic show, guys! Now I’m gonna play my Roger Waters albums again the next couple of days. Actually I’ve already started with "Is This the Life We Really Want?".
hi all ... I saw Roger on the Pros & Cons tour at the then titled NEC Arena near Birmingham (technically could be Solihull ) anyway ... was cool with the visualization and audio quality ... good show as always :-)
4) Pros and Cons 3) Amused to Death 2) Radio KAOS 1) Is This the Life We Really Want? (Yep, my no. 1 mainly because I saw him on this tour in Helsinki 2018. It was mind-blowing show in every aspect!!) Thanks for this Show!
Another great show guys well done
Great episode. I really agreed with Steven Reid's analysis of Radio KAOS. I did enjoy the album, but it was very, very redolent of Maggie Thatcher's '80s Britain: the miners' strike, the growing consumerism, the Live Aid effect, the tail end of the Cold War. They all loomed large in the UK. I love 'The Tide is Turning'. Haven't listened to it in ages, but it's a good document of the era.
A really great show with lots of insight and thoughts. Great input from all. I get Armando's thought that sometimes you wish Roger would lighten up but then he wouldn't be Roger really. Also Steven and Louis, loved their input. My ranking would be based purely on how familiar I am with each album. I do like Radio KAOS though, it is very 80s sounding but at the time seemed a departure in sound, like he was trying to get with the times. It is disjointed though.
1 Pros and Cons
2 Amused To Death
3 Radio KAOS
4 Is This The World...
Thanks for watching Ron!
Great show, very interesting and a good insight into Rogers work.
Gilmour and Waters are somewhat like Lennon and McCartney. Gilmour plays the green and pleasant land England, boating on the Thames, village greens with people playing a leisurely game of cricket in front of the Norman church and bustling pub. Rogers has an entirely different view of Britain as a vicious empire, grinding down anyone it comes across, whether the conquered people of the British colonies or the subjugated working class of Britain itself. Gilmour is a social Conservative; Rogers is an old-fashioned radical Socialist.
The difference with Lennon and McCartney is that Lennon would do sweet stuff sometimes and McCartney would do strident stuff sometimes - with The Beatles it is not always clear who is actually writing the song, whereas Gilmour and Waters stay in their lanes.
And Gilmour's sweet airs and Waters' sour observations work really well together - sweet & sour, a classic dish. And, separate them and you get saccharine and bitter. Gilmour represents style with limited substance, while Rogers offers substance with rawness built in.
If you are uplifted by wafty melodies, then Gilmour is your man. If you are uplifted by someone confronting gritty realities, feast on Rogers.
And like all yin and yang, they are going to be best together in juxtaposition, blended into one.
Radio Kaos was really good album the tour was mind-blowing his Floyd covers often better than the original. If you really think about it he predicted the magic of cell phones.
Your discussion on taking spouses to concerts brought back memories of taking my wife to see Parliament. Her only comment was "does everyone need to get high to listen to this?"
Saw Roger in 1999 in South Atlanta and all my wife did was bitch about the smoker in front of us but nothing about the show.
Amused to Death is Roger's only album that I spend any time with. What God Wants kick my ass every time I hear it. But I also believe that if not for Jeff Beck, I wouldn't have the same feeling.
The newest album just pisses me off because of his politics.
that show was great
Im a huge Roger Waters fan. His work is a lot like PF but he will never get the credit because of all the Gilmour fanboys who can't stand him.
I tend to favor music over lyrics so I guess count me as one of these "fanboys". Also I like Gilmour's singing a lot more, and I'm a guitar guy. The one time Waters brought in a guitar player who was equal to/better than Gilmour we saw the great results (Amused To Death)
@@wolf1977 Waters was as responsible for the music as anybody else in the Floyd. He didn't just do the lyrics, and there's more to music than guitar solos.
For me:
1. The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking
2. Is This The Life We Really Want?
3. Amused to Death
4. Radio K.A.O.S.
I can’t wait to see Roger in Detroit this summer. Let’s hope this tour doesn’t get canceled do to COVID-19 again.
No goody good bullshit. You guys know what you're talking about. Thanks to e veryone.
The thing I like best about Roger Waters is that he was in a band with someone who had diabetes and he tried to make the best of both worlds. Roger is always fair. 1Pros 2Amused 4 Kaos 3 The Life.
This is great. I think it would have been appropriate to include The Final Cut, which sounds like a Waters album with lacklustre Gilmour appearances.
A great show with all of you ,My number one is Amused to death,he is a great artist ,
Well done guys. Great video. Amused to Death is number 1 for me. Personally it arrived in my life at the back end of a University Life that was hitting the skids, gf break-up, drinking, partying, essays, researching, bad weather and just kicks your head, soul and body into another realm. Got me through. Good discussion. Roger asks the questions and just sits back and says... humans... you decide.... just like what is going on right now in the zeitgeist. Take a pick, which side are you on?
All the criticism about him being nihilistic and angry. It's from people who don't get the comic relief that he puts in their his sense of sarcasm is so on point. During the radio Kaos show the lyrics in combination with the videos he was showing had me laughing and crying at the same time. I was with some friends who were very big Rodger Waters fans and they just looked at me and I like what's wrong and I'm like wow you really don't f****** get it.
Great point. There's loads of sarcasm and humour in what he does. In fact, the lack of humour in The Wall movie is one of his problems with it.
@@nectarinedreams7208 I just love the wall and I really never thought that but you got a very good point I suppose I don't know Rodger says he wasn't happy with it it's my favorite movie
it's correct i think there's plenty sarcasm to point of humor
Fantastic show! ATD is my favorite with Is This The Life being a very close second. I’m very surprised that Martin picked it as his favorite… They where hard on Radio Chaos i like it.
1. The pros and cons of hitch hiking
2. Amused to death
3. Is this the life we really want
4. Radio Kaos
1. The Pro’s and Cons of Hitchhiking
2. Amused to Death
3. Radio K.A.O.S
4. Is This The Life We Really Want?
i really like this channel thanks i dont always agree but very nice
Saw the Radio K.A.O.S. show and the songs came across better live than the dated sounded record. I don’t remember actual requests from the audience to Jim Ladd, the DJ, but was an interesting feature. I saw the Pros and Cons show in ‘85 and is one of the best shows I’ve been to. Also my favorite Waters record.
The Wall show in 2012 and Us & Them in 2017 were amazing. The only thing that coulda made them better was if it was Pink Floyd 🔥🔥🔥
I always remember there was a sticker on my copy of Amused to Death that wasn't a traditional hype sticker, it said something like "The views on this album do not represent the views of Sony Entertainment." Radio Kaos has a few tracks I like but it's very dated to the late 80's, there are fan made versions that approximate the original double album version by adding in Radio KAOS period b-sides and stuff from the When The Wind Blows soundtrack that help make the storyline make more sense.
Not long ago, I met a really lovely guy in a wheelchair, sunning himself on a street in San Francisco. He had been a roadie for several massive bands including Led Zep, Paul McCartney and Pink Floyd. He was finally crippled in an accident while working for Paul McCartney.
I commented to him that Roger Waters must have been an 'interesting' man to work for. He said that Roger had always been really nice to him personally and that he had found David Gilmour much more difficult because he was always very aloof.
Perhaps we should ditch the idea of Roger Waters as being a personally angry man and see him instead as passionate and compassionate campaigner, determined to paint the world as he sees it, and with a horror of war, imperialism, propaganda, and systemic abuse.
Is Sounds From The Body not considered a RW album?
Yes. They talked about it briefly. A collaboration with Ron Geesin.
Give Birth to a Smile 😊
When the Wind Blows isn’t aimed at kids, but it was marketed to UK kids when it was first released back in the 80s.
There was the graphic novel which was in the kids section in all book shops, & libraries, I’m pretty sure it was talked about on various popular kids shows as well.
Did you know that Watership Down is still the most complained about film? The BBFC still gets complaints now because of its U certificate.
That’s another horrific cartoon marketed to kids back in the day, & scarred many children throughout the 80s as it was shown every year in schools.
Considering Roger Waters has wrote iconic songs when he was with Pink Floyd, somehow was unable to scan on his solo albums.
He will easily sing one line of a song perfectly, then another line with no problem, On the third line however, he will try to fit in a paragraph which he ends up rushing through just to try & fit it in time with the music.
Brilliant musician, brilliant lyricist, shit at scanning.
His album covers are awesome and I love the way the redacted album cover kind of is very similar to the radio chaos cover.
I am Most familiar with Radio K.A.O.S. and really LOVE this album!! Saw the tour in Portland, Maine, Phenomenal!!!! Still do not like the next one "Amused to Death".
I am surprised that it was almost unanimous that Radio KAOS is last. It's my favorite. I am a huge Roger Waters fan and enjoy all his work. But here's my ranking and why...
4) Is This The Life You Really Want? - Some decent tunes. Didn't grab me and I got the feeling that there are a lot nods and fan service here to older material. When I hear that I feel like he is running out of musical ideas. Still good, but prefer Gilmour's solo album around that time, Rattle That Lock.
3) Pros & Cons - I like it. I just don't find the story as compelling and while I enjoy listening to it I rarely go back.
2) Amused To Death - Great record. Love it. Great songs. Great instrumentation and great lyrics as always. It may have been #1, but it's a lot to digest in one listen and I don't find it as digestible as my #1.
1) Radio KAOS - Love it! Sure... Very dated production, but the songs overcome that and in some respects I enjoy it (Home). I saw this tour. It was great. Roger seemed in a good mood. Much better than the Momentary show which did little to mix up the setlist (played that shitty Momentary from start to finish). I like everything about this record despite the dated production.
Amused to Death is by far Waters' best albums. If it was a Floyd album back in the day, I think it would have been a big hit. But I'm surprised no one mentioned that it is based on a book called Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman.
After Animals I don't own any Pink Floyd or Roger Waters. Fun to hear about the albums though.
Thank you. Agree.
I saw the radio kaos show at wembley arena..paul carrack on keyboards (he was also the opening act doing a selection of ace/squeeze material)..highlight was clare torry coming on for vocals on great gig in the sky , truly amazing. .dont think shes done it before or after ?
1. Amused to Death (1992)
2. Is This the Life We Really Want? (2017)
3. The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking (1984)
4. Radio K.A.O.S. (1987)
I only have 2 pink Floyd ablums Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall. I also saw the Wall movie when it came out. I have nothing by Roger Waters solo.
I'd honestly say you're not missing that much but you may to check out Amused To Death
@@wolf1977as I had said I studied to be a graphic artist and I have a degree in that major. I had 3 years of figure drawing where we had men and women pose in the nude. I take it the person that did that drawing was kind of a cartoonist. They could have been an illustrator I had that in art college also.
I'm going to have to look up that other Album you mentioned are they by the same group.
@@wolf1977 are you talking about the album he was talking about today or Roger waters?
@@melaniethurber5117 Roger Waters' solo album Amused To Death (with Jeff Beck). Floyd's The Wall is a classic but I honestly don't find myself listening to it much (any more), same with Dark Side
@@wolf1977 I have to agree with you about not listening to them. I don't know when the last time I listen to mine.
You guys didnt mention Final Cut which is basically a Roger Waters solo album in itself because by that stage the band weren't talking to each other and I think the record label demanded one more album with the entire band before they would release Roger from the contract. But basically Roger directs the entire affair from go to whoa and the rest of the band were just going through the motions and you can very much tell it is Roger in charge from listening to any of the lyrics.
Wonderful show! I forgot that Division Bell came out around the same time as Amused to Death. It is such a vastly superior "pink floyd" album to the dull and uninspired Division Bell!
Amused to Death is overrated and hasn’t held up well. The album was a victim of the CD format and it has not aged well with me personally.