Is It Time to Ditch Your Old Sharpener for the Tormek T8??

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  • @paulbodypumper1
    @paulbodypumper1 6 років тому +2

    I am from the uk and I must say your English is very good and clear Thankyou

  • @tomasandersson2236
    @tomasandersson2236 6 років тому +7

    I have the T4, and I love it! :) A sharp tool is a safe tool.

  • @shirleyj5885
    @shirleyj5885 6 років тому +1

    Sharpening tools has always been a challenge for me. I've watched video after video, this was the best. Thanks Simeon.

  • @horatio71
    @horatio71 6 років тому +10

    Tormek for the win. I also went through an evolution in my sharpening. Tried all different things until my frustration got so bad 2 years ago and also got the T8. It is fantastic. Reproducible results. The only thing I would say that you need to withstand the urge to sharpen everything to scalpel sharpness level.

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому +1

      Haha, yeah... one can easily spend too much time on that machine polishing something up...

    • @judthemagicdragon
      @judthemagicdragon 6 років тому +2

      @@simeonandalex DO it ... an hour video sharpening all your dinnerware 😂

  • @musiclover-tf6fu
    @musiclover-tf6fu 6 років тому +1

    Wow this was a very very very interesting video with loads of really good and informative information❗️

  • @mitche499
    @mitche499 6 років тому

    My husband had a grinder and always sharpen tools and knives on it, I tried it and didn't work for me. I think the angle you hold the object is very important and also the stone you sharpen on. Watching you in this video has been helpful. Thank you for this video and that is a N I C E machine you have there Simeon! Happy sharpening!! :-)

  • @dauntiekay2768
    @dauntiekay2768 6 років тому +10

    Great video! Would love to see how you would sharpen an ax or a shovel.

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому +3

      Yes. Thanks for the input. I will make a video with that in the near future.

    • @Vbnzzdbb
      @Vbnzzdbb 6 років тому +2

      I think a shovel you only need to file

    • @julier1080
      @julier1080 6 років тому

      You can do garden tools like shovels and hoes with a hand held grinder. The edge is not as critical as with blades. Just be sure to keep water handy to hose them or dip into frequently so as not to change the temper of the metal.

    • @johnklein4558
      @johnklein4558 6 років тому +1

      Use a bastard file to sharpen a shovel. Don’t use the Tormek for that.

  • @fluggegecheimenn
    @fluggegecheimenn 5 років тому

    You absolutely right than you say about your earlier mistake to turn your hand when you sharpen tip of the knife. The right movement is to lift up your hand. The funny thing that I understood that thing later after some practice as you too. It's strange that nothing says about it in Tormek manual. Thank you for your review.

  • @jeffffro7674
    @jeffffro7674 6 років тому

    TORMEK!!!!! That machine produces perfection when it comes to sharp, blades so sharp you will cut your eyes just looking at them! Lol. I use one and love the fact that you showed cutting the paper, after using the T4 I can literally cut a piece of paper in mid air, like a samurai!!

  • @1870s
    @1870s 6 років тому +2

    Hey Simeon can you let us know what a good butcher knife set is you would recommend.

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому +1

      We use some German butcher knives right now but I am not very happy with them. I can get them to be sharp but they don't keep the sharpness for very long. I am looking into that myself right now. Generally I would want 2-3 different knives. One with the round tip, mainly to skin the animal and separate some meats like chicken breast for example, one with a pointy tip to make cuts through skin and to separate bones and another one similar to use for dirty work. Sometimes you might want to use 2 separate knives when bleeding a cow for example. One to cut through the skin that might get dirty and one to bleed it.

    • @geraldswain3259
      @geraldswain3259 6 років тому +3

      @@simeonandalex Best butcher's knives you will buy are made by Victoranox and very sensibly priced .check out The Scot Rea channel he's the best butcher on utube by far and has won many top awards .He has used these knives for 30 yrs and uses no other.

  • @lynnelliot7256
    @lynnelliot7256 6 років тому

    Hi Simeon, a couple more sites I found for tomato growing are Huws nursery and migardener. Another one of interest for heating the greenhouse might be Living the good life. Thanks for all the videos they are great.

  • @jackiebinns6205
    @jackiebinns6205 6 років тому +5

    Absolutely love your information filled videos. Have you seen the videos by Jason Rhodes ? He has a farm in Missouri ..Good luck on your Journey to America and finding a awesome farm to explore ! God bless 😃😃 Jackie from the awesome heartland of America Nebraska

    • @davidjohnston1971
      @davidjohnston1971 6 років тому +4

      Do you mean Justin Rhodes? His farm is in North Carolina. Simeon already has his act much more together than JR, who is a shameless self promoter and not as much of a ninja as he makes himself out to be. He is great at marketing himself though.

  • @DanSanChannel
    @DanSanChannel 4 роки тому

    3:43 actually the "bendy" knife is a fillet knife and it's very easy to sharpen on a stone. You use your fingers to add pressure to the spine of the knife while sharpening it. It's one of the easiest knives to sharpen using a stone.

  • @asafpeled699
    @asafpeled699 5 років тому +2

    I have to say, I'm really impressed by how well you speak English. Did you study in England or the States? Not many native speakers who don't speak any other language can probably appreciate how difficult it is to really master a foreign language and then make presentations in it. Well done.

  • @colinbateman8233
    @colinbateman8233 4 роки тому

    I love my tormek

  • @villijs33321
    @villijs33321 6 років тому

    I have Tormek T4 for about 14 years and nothing is beater, I have also same Fiskars - many don't know that Fiskars is wet sharpener and by using it dry it's quickly loses effect. One tip about that leather wheel polishing paste - I use Biltema metal polish (Art.nr. 36-48 149.- 1 kg boks) - same stuff only 6 times cheper Tormek PA-70 ca. 860./kg.

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 6 років тому

    Thanks for sharing !

  • @newera3757
    @newera3757 2 роки тому

    I'm waiting for the T10 version

  • @tlee927
    @tlee927 6 років тому

    very nice tormek video. i started using my t-8 a couple of days ago. on the first try, good results but far from perfection. i had trouble handling the jig as it sat on the wheel. may i ask how you manage to hold the knife jig steady? it flips easily because of the way it is built, like a cylinder. also, if possible, could you do a video with close-up shots on setting the angle master please?

  • @larrylparish82752
    @larrylparish82752 6 років тому

    Besides bendy or bendable, you could also use flexible. And Wranglerstar has also found an excellent knife sharpening system that he uses now.

    • @ianmoone2359
      @ianmoone2359 6 років тому +1

      Larry Parish in Hudson, Fl. Wrangler idiot didn’t “find” a knife sharpening system for knives, one of his arse lickers in Germany made it and sent it to him for free hoping for some “free advertising” which wrangler idiot provided.

  • @stevegreen7119
    @stevegreen7119 6 років тому +11

    In America we'd say flexible, however on the West Coast I suppose "Bendy" would do.

  • @robertcavoli4351
    @robertcavoli4351 5 років тому

    It seems like when you change the grit of the stone, that eventually you can make the main stone off square, if you do not put pressure evenly. Seems like there should be a way to hold the grit changing stone“ square…?

    • @nikovyt
      @nikovyt 5 років тому

      There is. Tormek also makes a "truing jig" with a diamond running along the stone till it's square again.

  • @kevinkall8547
    @kevinkall8547 6 років тому

    what about flexy? or limpy?

  • @mikegoodpaster1202
    @mikegoodpaster1202 6 років тому

    we used a huge oil stone in the packing plant (pork) i worked at years ago. it was 18 inches (45cm) in diameter and sat in a bath of food grade oil. it was 3inches wide and ran at 50 rpm. we had 4 minutes to sharpen 2 knives and they better shave hair. (bad day otherwise!)

  • @julianeaston8607
    @julianeaston8607 6 років тому

    Hi Simeon, I hope all is ok with your wife's folks and that the government is not giving you too much grief with the cobalt mining issue, but unless I've been asleep for ages I have not seen any new videos from you for sometime now. Personally I would also love to see (as others in comments have stated) your take on axe sharpening with the Tormek, as I have just ordered a T4 bushcraft version.

  • @4philipp
    @4philipp 6 років тому

    I looked up that machine and a complete bundle kit in my area is between $1399 and $1701 plus sales tax. However, being able to easily sharpen your tools is worth it

  • @uppsalahazzemarkstedt2759
    @uppsalahazzemarkstedt2759 6 років тому +1

    I have a lot of jigs for my Tormek Supergrinder 2000 and some different stones. It's upgraded with new hardware from Tormek because the newer machine design fits older ones too. I even sharpen drillbits for wood- or metal work with the special tool from Tormek, which give excellent performance and edges. If it's not a damaged edge I sharpen blades for lawnmovers, cutter bar knives, bark irons, shovels and such things to the best edge you can get. If I can't use a jig I use a sharpie to get a line of color along the edge. Then you can see easy the angle you get. I keep the old stones for curved blades as scythe and such.
    Tormek have a lot of educational material on line, beside what you get when you buy the grinder. They have also training courses in a lot of countries.
    The bad side of this machine is that it's like a drug and you can't stop searching for dull edges in the neighborhood! LOL

  • @raymondhaupt5324
    @raymondhaupt5324 6 років тому +4

    Worksharp is a great machine for blades that works well

  • @Vbnzzdbb
    @Vbnzzdbb 6 років тому

    Is it good for sharpening scythes?

    • @jeffffro7674
      @jeffffro7674 6 років тому

      The Tormek will sharpen ANYTHING you want RAZOR sharp!!!! There is absolutely zero exaggeration in that statement as well my friend, the machine is a bit expensive but it's worth every bit! It will last a lifetime and it's so easy to use a 4 year old child can use it like a pro. There's simply not enough good things to say about this sharpening system. I do NOT work for Tormek, LOL. I'm A woodworker and love sharp tools, this machine gives them to you!!!

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому

      Voffman, yes, you can sharpen scythes but it will be free hand. They have a jig so you can rest the tool and it will be VERY sharp.

  • @xenonram
    @xenonram 6 років тому

    The only thing that doesn't make sense about this is spinning the machine rather than reversing the motor. Reversing the motor would have made so much more sense. Do you have to reposition the rest to the top when you spin the machine, or can you have it coming out the front? (like when it's turned the other way.)

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому +1

      We talked to Tormek and asked them this specific question. The bottom line is that the mechanism to reverse the engine will add a big jump in pricing due to several factors. Turning the machine which takes 3 seconds is a very small sacrifice for that. The position of the rest has not so much to do with wether or not you could only have it front or top but more about how the tool should be held when sharpening against the rotation. The reason for there being one top and one front holder for the rest is also that you have different jigs that require different positions.

  • @RR-et6sh
    @RR-et6sh 6 років тому

    How much does this thingahmabobber cost?

    • @tomas6700
      @tomas6700 5 років тому

      R R $635.00 - $750.00. Depending upon #of accessories and if you catch a sale.

  • @christislittlerebornjourne6469
    @christislittlerebornjourne6469 6 років тому

    I really like that sharpening device I hate when my knives are not sharp

  • @Tony-ip7hj
    @Tony-ip7hj 6 років тому

    Perfekt timing!
    Började läsa om denna produkt förra veckan.
    Tänkte mig dock t4.
    Vad avgjorde t4 vs t8 för er?
    Mvh

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому

      Huvudsakligen var det att T8an är ännu kraftigare byggd. T4 kan bara köra 30min åt gången, T8 permanent. Kåpan är av rostfritt stål vs plast. Sådana små grejor men T4 an är nog skit bra den med... Vet inte om alla jiggar går att ha på T4an också?

    • @stefoffenberg9783
      @stefoffenberg9783 6 років тому

      I can't make chocolate of this :(

    • @c.j.rogers2422
      @c.j.rogers2422 6 років тому

      Y'all talk funny.

    • @Tony-ip7hj
      @Tony-ip7hj 6 років тому

      @@simeonandalex bra argument.
      Förmodligen värt mellankostnaden på gården.
      Tack.

    • @Tony-ip7hj
      @Tony-ip7hj 6 років тому

      @@stefoffenberg9783
      Haha!

  • @loriehabel1552
    @loriehabel1552 6 років тому

    Awsome

  • @kevinkall8547
    @kevinkall8547 6 років тому

    also, with the english word "fasten", the 't' is silent.

  • @wallacewood2126
    @wallacewood2126 6 років тому +3

    Flexible.

  • @christophershear409
    @christophershear409 4 роки тому

    Why would you sharpen a fillet knife at such a steep angle? 30 degrees is too much, maybe 10-15...

  • @julier1080
    @julier1080 6 років тому +1

    Well, there goes this year’s tax refund! So unfair to tease like this, I knew as soon as I clicked on the link to the video I was going to want one. : )
    Absolutely worth it, just for doing my drawknifes alone.

  • @davidwaller2179
    @davidwaller2179 5 років тому

    Bendy and fillet (sound the T).

  • @gerrymarmee3054
    @gerrymarmee3054 6 років тому

    A very sharp knife is safer than a dull knife.

  • @Johnrider1234
    @Johnrider1234 6 років тому +1

    German steels for knives.

  • @BuckInfinidy
    @BuckInfinidy 6 років тому

    Are those bendy knives "spendy" (expensive). There you go, new American English term of the day. You're welcome. ;)

  • @colinbateman8233
    @colinbateman8233 4 роки тому

    Flexible I’m Canadian

  • @nancyarchibald9095
    @nancyarchibald9095 6 років тому

    The correct word is: flexible. The knife flexes as you use it...

  • @dadofshane
    @dadofshane 6 років тому

    to me, bendy might mean it bends and then it wouldn't be straight. I would say flexible, or the blade has flex. any blade is flexible to a point, after that point it bends. but now I'll probably start saying bendy about my fillet knife's bendyness.

  • @mindakahn9964
    @mindakahn9964 6 років тому

    The most expensive tools in your kitchen are your knives. Dull knives are dangerous.
    I have major knife envy right now.

  • @treeclimbing7798
    @treeclimbing7798 6 років тому

    the Fiskar is for their Axes 👈🏼
    and it works well @ that.

    • @simeonandalex
      @simeonandalex  6 років тому +1

      Mm, I think "well" is relative. After sharpening our Fiskars on the Tormek, "sharp on an axe" was redefined for us, not kidding... I also am not so sure that that sharpener is for their axes. I don't think it the wide angle could possibly fit in that sharpener. Maybe there is a bigger one for axes.

  • @singvan2363
    @singvan2363 6 років тому

    www.slojd-detaljer.se/sortiment/tra-metallslojd/slipmaterial/brynen/kombinationsbryne-9382 är ett bra bryne för att lära sig att slipa för hand den är riktigt billig men håller fortfarande bra kvalité om du söker på "budjetprepping" finns det masa videos där jag visar när jag använder de brynet helt fantastiks bryne speciellt för priset

  • @ianmoone2359
    @ianmoone2359 6 років тому +2

    Technically there’s nothing wrong with your video at all.
    As with so many things tho, technology changes VERY fast these days.
    The over expensive Tormek wet wheel sharpening system is old / out dated technology.
    Yes it still works, there’s nothing inherently wrong with the system except for being hideously over priced for what it is!
    These days wet bath sharpening is redundant.
    The invention of CBN grinding wheels, (Cubic Boron Nitride) means that for little over $100 you can buy a CBN wheel to fit ANY cheap Chinese bench grinder from harbour freight, and produce equally as good if not better sharpness edges on steel knives, chisels, planer blades etc in minutes, without the need for water to keep the steel, high speed steel, Tool Steel, cool to prevent overheating and altering the temper!
    Old grind stone wheels (typically aluminium oxide grit wheels) would overheat the steel & you could watch it turn blue, with heat & lose its temper near the thinnest edges. That’s why wet bath grinding was invented.
    However the reason for over heating with the old Aluminium Oxide is the steel swarf ground off the tool clogs the stone & creates the friction that causes the overheating.
    CBN has a unique characteristic / property, that it is “self cleaning” it doesn’t clog with steel swarf during the grinding process, & it is also self cooling!
    Second only to diamond for hardness CBN is actually better for sharpening steel than diamond!
    Diamond wheels still are best for sharpening tungsten carbide tipped cutting edges, however CBN is better for any steel, Tool Steel, or high speed steel edge sharpening than diamond, because even diamond wheels do clog with steel swarf, during the grinding process, & this causes heat build up, & diamond wheels need cleaning / dressing occasionally (with an aluminium oxide stick) to remove the grinding swarf!
    CBN sharpens / grinds so cool without water, that you can have your hand / fingers near the thin edge being sharpened, of the tool & continuous grind a bevel, & the edge barely gets warm to the touch!
    No need to periodically dip the tool in a tub of water to cool it down, no need for wet bath grinding with the over priced Tormek system,
    For a couple hundred $ for a CBN grinding wheel, & cheap Chinese grinder from Harbor Freight, you can sell your over priced Tormek system in the skip bin of history where it belongs, & change over to CBN grinding wheels!
    Even better do what I did & sell your over priced Tormek wet bath grinding system to some other gullible shmuck & use the $ to buy CBN wheels for all your grinding of steel tool edges!
    I now have one on my 6 inch bench grinder for chisels & knives etc, & I have another with CBN on the flat surface of the wheel in my Sherwood 24 inch planer blades surface grinder for doing jointer blades / thicknesser blades.
    You can set your whole shop up with CBN wheels for what you can sell your out dated technology Tormek wet bath system sharpener to some shmuck for!
    This situation won’t last forever! As guys work out that Tormek Wet Bath grinding is out dated & over priced technology, they will fast lose all used resale value! In short you won’t be able to give them away!
    Last one out of Tormek is a rotten egg! 😂
    Do yourself a favour & check out Stumpy Nubs video on CBN grinding wheels, that’s what got me started & led me to tossing the over priced Tormek wet bath grinder into the dust bin of history where it belongs!
    Don’t waste your $ on Tormek!
    Buy the tools you actually need!
    Cheers!

    • @mauricemajor7728
      @mauricemajor7728 6 років тому

      CBN wheels only sharpen hardened steel and they are pricy. A quick search on the web showed me prices in the 500$ canadian range for a single grit wheel. If you buy two different grit wheels you will have spent more than a new Tormek and you still need to buy a decent grinder. Tormek seems like the better deal to me.

    • @ianmoone2359
      @ianmoone2359 6 років тому

      Maurice Major No your incorrect there! The Canadian Sheckle & Aussie Pacific Peso are almost on parity with each other!
      My 6 inch wheel for the bench grinder was $150.00
      The 6 inch wheel for the Sherwood Surface planer which has 40mm of CBN electroplating on both faces was $200.
      The first was 180 grit, the second 240 grit, you can get a 600 grit if you so desire.
      But even at combined cost of $350 the 2 CBN wheels were a fraction of the over priced Tormek system & work so much faster & better that Tormek wet bath remains totally out dated & over expensive technology.
      There’s no question it’s a technology that works, BUT now there’s a cheaper & better way to do it is all.
      My bench grinder was $50 on the equivalent here of “Craig’s list! Similar with the Sherwood Surface Grinder.
      There’s just no way I could justify the cost of Tormek against CBN wheels, I could buy 3 of my CBN grinding setups for the cost of 1 newTormek system!
      I would sooner see wood workers getting better bang for their hard earned buck, than wasting it on overpriced & out dated Tormek equipment.
      All these clamps and angle gauges in the Tormek system are yet more cost again!
      You can jig up yourself with a $45 digital angle finder!
      There’s just no need to spend that $ on the overpriced Tormek system now that cheaper & better CBN option exists! Give it a go & you will see what I am saying.
      I have the invoices here for my 2 recent CBN wheels, so I know what they actually cost.

  • @takayama1638
    @takayama1638 5 років тому +1

    Anybody who'd pay $800 for a knife sharpening system has way more money than brains. Done.