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@@diegoglasc1:44:10 you can see the observer directly over the turret on the left which bugs it out and prevents it from firing. It actually stays over it for like a minute.
What is the actual rule for that ? If they paused the game as barracks I would have been upset because it takes you out of the moment.. I felt it was an honest mistake as the obs is in that location before the turret is finished construction.
I am very excited for Barracks to show up, get no respect - and absolutely throw down WITH the nerves. I am equally as sad that both JD and Bisu - which are like local heros - both getting knocked out. Hero played well too - but - that aside - he did NOT play with the same mastery that SoulKey did. Gotta wait till next week to see Snow now
Ha ! I haven't watched the following matches, yet. I suppose it would be JD, those are rough times I'm 100% ok if it is Hero, as good as he is, he'd make up for it.
Barracks vs Hero: Not the best terran micro but THE BEST TvZ terran unit composition I've ever seen! Valkyries preventing Mutas from killing the bio and killing overlords like Corsairs which can slow down Defiler production and then a transition into science vessels for the defilers and then mech and using siege tanks to take out structures from afar. I think spider mines can kill stuff under a dark swarm.
Why is Bisus ID C9_Bisu? Not related to the NA Org C9? And what's the reason again that he intentionally locks in a probe with buildings behind the mineral line? Thanks!
I'm not sure which situation you're referencing exactly, but you typically see players trap a worker so that they can stack flying units. When you group flying units with a far away unit and issue a few move commands, they stack on top of each other. Or else it was a cannon rush behind the opponents mineral line? If it wasn't one of those two situations, then it was probably a mistake.
@@son_60han yeah protoss does that so they can stack corsairs vs zerg. If you don't trap the probe, the probe can actually meet up with the corsairs/get killed on the map/mess up your other units' pathing. The first 2 cause the corsairs to no longer stack which is bad. For zerg, to do muta micro you group the mutas with an overlord, and the overlord is so slow you don't have to worry about that.
@@Andrew_EvsW The shield 1 upgrade is 200 minerals / 200 gas, which is twice as expensive as armor 1 (100/100) and weapons 1 (100/100). That extra cost is one reason. The other reason is that protoss shields take full damage from all damage types. Since a hydra does explosive damage, this means it does 10 damage to a zealot's shields but only 5 damage to the zealot's hp. So if protoss got shields 1, the zealot takes 10% less damage (10->9), whereas if protoss got armor 1, the zealot takes 20% less damage (5->4). So armor is usually better than shields (there's a similar calculation in PvT with a vulture vs a dragoon). Whether protoss should get weapons 1 or armor 1 first vs Zerg is more interesting. Weapons 1 is usually the choice since that helps zealots kill zerglings and hydras in fewer hits. But sometimes pros get armor 1 since that improves your units' tankiness. Both upgrades are good, and protoss definitely wants to get to 3/3 as the game goes on. In late game PvZ protoss shield upgrades become better investments. Since you have more bases the +100/+100 cost hurts your economy less. Shield upgrades make archons tankier, and archons are a good late game PvZ unit.
@@Andrew_EvsW Expensive, shields in general just isn't that good either because it takes full damage to everything. Also abilities such as EMP nullify the upgrade entirely.
Excellent ZvP from Bisu v JD Hard tech (gateway and core before forge) into stargate before +1 weapons. Pulls JD's army out of position killing zealots to 5 o'clock, allows his 3 o'clock expo up and gateways. Late observers, but leads to a massive dragoon army. JD stayed on Lair tech too long. Needed swarm, hydra lurker ling to combat the Protoss army. Pure Hydra Lurker too larva intensive
bisu losing to barracks was devastating. He crushed barracks on ladder,kcm and in proleague every single time, and now he played like noob. didnt even used reavers , or dt drops, nothing. wtf
Terran is just so OP vs protoss. Vulture is the perfect counter vs zlot, tanks and mines just melt dragoons. Instead, protoss needs spellcasters, shuttles, absurd reaver micro and so many more maneuvers just to keep terran honest. Terran only has to siege, lay mines and sit tight for victory to come.
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Barracks stepped over Bisu like there was no Bisu. Such a supreme and insanely aggressive Terran style
what was the ilegal play Bisu did? I never saw that thing...
@@diegoglasc1:44:10 you can see the observer directly over the turret on the left which bugs it out and prevents it from firing. It actually stays over it for like a minute.
What is the actual rule for that ? If they paused the game as barracks I would have been upset because it takes you out of the moment..
I felt it was an honest mistake as the obs is in that location before the turret is finished construction.
@@sawong107 I've noticed too but i thought it's legal
That last game vs. Bisu contain + aggressive expo was key!
Was thinking transition to ultras but mass hydra sealed the deal.
love this casting duo, thanks guys
I am very excited for Barracks to show up, get no respect - and absolutely throw down WITH the nerves. I am equally as sad that both JD and Bisu - which are like local heros - both getting knocked out. Hero played well too - but - that aside - he did NOT play with the same mastery that SoulKey did. Gotta wait till next week to see Snow now
My favourite player got out first, I was not expecting that from him but it makes me very happy for him !
My favourite player also got "out" first… :(
GG to you.
Ha ! I haven't watched the following matches, yet. I suppose it would be JD, those are rough times I'm 100% ok if it is Hero, as good as he is, he'd make up for it.
this caster is the goat! Bahhh racks.
Go barracks! Flash has taught you well.
He played great. It was Flash-esque
Flash and light too. The Light mentor streams were kinda cute.
Barracks played well - give him the credit, not Flash.
Don't give scammer trash the credit for barracks good play
@@avanhokie
Flash is the GOAT. Credit where credit is due
both commentators have a very deep professional insight into this game
you should watch more. they're really good
In the kespa era observer over turret at least at some point was allowed (I believe all the time).
thanks for this great content !!
barracks did something amazing
Instead or "What's the killer group in this Ro16?" maybe it should be, "Which Ro16 group is merciful?"
Group C looks wild!
Barracks vs Hero: Not the best terran micro but THE BEST TvZ terran unit composition I've ever seen! Valkyries preventing Mutas from killing the bio and killing overlords like Corsairs which can slow down Defiler production and then a transition into science vessels for the defilers and then mech and using siege tanks to take out structures from afar. I think spider mines can kill stuff under a dark swarm.
1:12:40 Is that really MC, the BossToss? He looks good! Man, I miss the good old times of SC2.
The closed captions aren't working for this video!
it's typical JD TVZ (Artosis)
FYI Nazgul isn't 50 but he is 41. Apparently he was pretty good and beat xellos on TV back in the day
I don’t know who wins the losers match yet but hero is so fucking good. It’s insane.
Jaedong getting stomped in ro16 again.
Sheesh
Group B was the group of death in my opinion
Did any matches happen yet?
Why is Bisus ID C9_Bisu? Not related to the NA Org C9? And what's the reason again that he intentionally locks in a probe with buildings behind the mineral line? Thanks!
I'm not sure which situation you're referencing exactly, but you typically see players trap a worker so that they can stack flying units. When you group flying units with a far away unit and issue a few move commands, they stack on top of each other. Or else it was a cannon rush behind the opponents mineral line? If it wasn't one of those two situations, then it was probably a mistake.
@@johndoe-rq1puahh so thats why.. I'm wondering why there's always a worker trapped between buildings and mineral line
@@son_60han yeah protoss does that so they can stack corsairs vs zerg. If you don't trap the probe, the probe can actually meet up with the corsairs/get killed on the map/mess up your other units' pathing. The first 2 cause the corsairs to no longer stack which is bad. For zerg, to do muta micro you group the mutas with an overlord, and the overlord is so slow you don't have to worry about that.
MC sighting at 54:10!
3:09:35 mutas should've gotten the zealots combined w/ hydra attack instead of getting maelstrom'd and dying for free.
Splocker boiler!
Hero vs Barrack 25:07
Bisu vs JD 55:24
Winner match 1:24:42
Elimination match 2:00:50
Final match 2:37:57
EoN: ''Bisu had a brain fart'' - LMAO!
Nice casting duo
what dose plasma shield upgrade do ?
upgrades 1 shield armor for Units + buildings
@@ChaosTemplar sounds good why people don't use it that much?
@@Andrew_EvsW The shield 1 upgrade is 200 minerals / 200 gas, which is twice as expensive as armor 1 (100/100) and weapons 1 (100/100). That extra cost is one reason. The other reason is that protoss shields take full damage from all damage types. Since a hydra does explosive damage, this means it does 10 damage to a zealot's shields but only 5 damage to the zealot's hp. So if protoss got shields 1, the zealot takes 10% less damage (10->9), whereas if protoss got armor 1, the zealot takes 20% less damage (5->4). So armor is usually better than shields (there's a similar calculation in PvT with a vulture vs a dragoon).
Whether protoss should get weapons 1 or armor 1 first vs Zerg is more interesting. Weapons 1 is usually the choice since that helps zealots kill zerglings and hydras in fewer hits. But sometimes pros get armor 1 since that improves your units' tankiness. Both upgrades are good, and protoss definitely wants to get to 3/3 as the game goes on.
In late game PvZ protoss shield upgrades become better investments. Since you have more bases the +100/+100 cost hurts your economy less. Shield upgrades make archons tankier, and archons are a good late game PvZ unit.
@@Andrew_EvsW Expensive, shields in general just isn't that good either because it takes full damage to everything. Also abilities such as EMP nullify the upgrade entirely.
@@ChaosTemplar Yes but if you upgrade it doesn't take less damage ? Also it's good because it works on all units and buildings
herO earned his name now, elinimating JD and Bisu to advance.
A true herO!
it was the group of death
Why Bisu gave up vs Barracks? T_T 34 vs 43, terran mega all in, protoss still 2 bases, reavers should be soon
my man barracks, I might place him equal to Light now haha, even Light would lose to Hero easily
Excellent ZvP from Bisu v JD
Hard tech (gateway and core before forge) into stargate before +1 weapons.
Pulls JD's army out of position killing zealots to 5 o'clock, allows his 3 o'clock expo up and gateways. Late observers, but leads to a massive dragoon army.
JD stayed on Lair tech too long. Needed swarm, hydra lurker ling to combat the Protoss army. Pure Hydra Lurker too larva intensive
bisu losing to barracks was devastating. He crushed barracks on ladder,kcm and in proleague every single time, and now he played like noob. didnt even used reavers , or dt drops, nothing. wtf
Maybe Flash leveled him up
Terran is just so OP vs protoss. Vulture is the perfect counter vs zlot, tanks and mines just melt dragoons. Instead, protoss needs spellcasters, shuttles, absurd reaver micro and so many more maneuvers just to keep terran honest. Terran only has to siege, lay mines and sit tight for victory to come.
@@fingon8919 nah Bisu has just never been that good at PvT and now he's even worse
@@fingon8919 stop crying
@@Sotanath86q yeah, that is true as well.
dude wats with the asl this season like cmon we've waited the 2 week break put out the vids afreeca!
Nyoken and Eonzerg >tastosis
And it's not even close if you're into in depth analysis. Tasteless spends his time talking about a zealot hiding behind mineral patch lol
That observer bug was absolutely deliberate, I guess doesn't matter when he can't PvT
This is gonna be a ZvZ losers' match.
Nooooooooo, not like this :(((((((
I can't believe Bisu lost... He really shouldve beat Hero and Barracks too. That shit is not balanced.
el ingles de eornzerg es como mi aleman ,, horrible jeje
Dirty cheater Bisu
Bisu is so cheesu
!!++ +
Jd needa retire and work as a Walmart greeter
LOL