Steam Locomotive Switches out Modern Industries!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- The last weekend Everett #11 ran as a coal burning steam locomotive.
Initially expected to chase Everett's routine freight operations (which typically are done with diesel engines), but were pleasantly surprised to see them pull out #11 for the job.
Passenger excursions are neat and stuff, but there is something absolutely magic about seeing a steam engine pulling modern freight cars. To this day I think the coolest steam footage is UP 3985 pulling that double-stack over Archer Hill. Seeing this little guy doing real work for real freight customers just warms the heart.
I remember seeing, literally the iconic video, except I was on the second or third bridge at the top of Archer hill, with my mom and grandparents. One of the most amazing sights I've seen in my entire life.
Hi JETZ, I am trying to find out more about this video. Like, how long ago was it done ? Is this beautiful loco still laboring in this manner ? Is the owner/operator performing a utilitarian service or was this just for show. I read that the engine was restored in 2015. Which is encouraging news. If you know more please give me a holler. Many thanks.
@@debbiemilka2251 Unfortunately this is the first time I've seen or heard of #11 so I can't really help you. Best of luck in your research.
Whenever I watch that video of 3985 I just wanna scream Go baby Go!
@@exceptionallyaveragejoe I just read they took FIVE diesel GEs off the front of that train when the hooked 3985 up. It's amazing some desk driver didn't raise a big stink about dynamic brakes or something. They certainly would today.
As a kid, in the '50s, I remember an oil-burning steam locomotive parked on the siding next to the Granny Goose potato chip plant in East Oakland. It was supplying auxiliary steam to cook the potato chips.
I am completely awestruck by this! I would have never imagined that a steam engine running switching operations on actual industries even had the remote possibility of happening today!
Only on a railfan owned shortline.
It's a rare thing we see these days I hope more railways do this
@@MilwaukeeF40C nope, IAIS 6988 pulled revenue earning biodiesel trains on the main line before going in for overhaul last year.
It warms my heart to see people acting on the rule of cool. I wish there were more excuses to do things like this.
Happens all the time outside USA.
I know high cubes are tall and moguls aren’t the biggest power out there but that height difference was satisfying. The mighty mogul.
A mighty Mogul indeed! They're also restoring a 2-8-0 so that will be really cool to see pulling some modern freight.
@@e-train765 very cool, it’s really nice to see a lot of steam restoration lately.
How many will say it made ya cry seeing a simpler way of life come into view for a little while, I know I did😢😢😢, God save humanity…
I'd offer a bonus to anyone who can resist constantly blowing that dang whistle
"How dare you mix eras like that!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE" said some super model railroad engineer.
The best way to learn how to operate a steam locomotive is by switching. I know this from doing a RR camp where we had to run the locomotive around a set of passenger cars and re-couple. Running laps is fun and all but switching is a whole different beast!
Strasburg sometimes does a freight run with a steam locomotive instead of their diesel switcher. They pick up freight cars from NS at the Amtrak interchange and take them to the team track in East Strasburg where trucks come to pick up the loads to take them to the customers. UP has hauled revenue freight with steam, and so has Reading and Northern.
Yes they do, and i've seen it this past fall. Seems they do it during the week and it was a little odd to see yellow RailBox hi-cube behind the steam, but at the same time awesome.
The steam locomotives have more tractive effort than the diesel switcher that's why.
@@raymondleggs5508 more horsepower? yes. More tractive effort? No A switcher like that SW8 has about the tractive effort of a mainline steam loco, but a fraction of the horsepower.
UP is literally federally required to do so. Their steam locomotives are on the active duty roster right alongside the ES44s and SD70ACes, meaning they have to be used for at least one revenue freight per year or UP gets fined.
That was crazy cool. Imagine being stopped at a crossing and seeing this go by. You'd be tripping !
Outstanding video!! Great shots of the running gear of that locomotive. Nice to see a steamer in operation. Wish I could give a hundred likes.
I gave another like for you. Now you have 99. Aarre Peltomaa
Thanks for the "like"
That was pretty cool, I like that I was able to see something that was a common sight for my father when this locomotive was moving freight in NY back in day.
Those bumpy rails really are wild.
That little engine's bell is much more than any diesel
Seeing a rebuilt steam locomotive switching high-cubes felts oddly satisfying.
Nice catch! A great looking locomotive! Might be interesting to see people's reaction at the RR crossings, watching a stem locomotive go by.
People who live around there are probably used to hearing it now and then and so unsurprised to see it.
People saw nothing. Busy texting on their cell.
What a little sweetheart of a loco! Lovely sounding whistle, too! Hats off to the crew because that was some good operating
Amazing truly amazing 🤩 glad see old 2-6-0 in operations instead of museum as display.
Not bad, especially considering modern freight cars are roughly 2X the weight of cars designed when #11 was running "real" freight service in the 1920's, 30' and 1940's
Even so, 5-6 cars is nothing, for ANY steam loco. Cars also all use roller bearings now so that's a factor as well. Even a 2-6-0 like this could do MUCH more without issue.
When it comes to raw power & tractive effort steam is king 🤴
@@Dachamp2001 Not to mention their torque curve gives them more power at speed - the opposite of diesel electrics. The peak torque on big boy was at 35 mph. DEs are all at zero mph due to the nature of electric motors.
@@15nyonker Actually DEs usually make peak effort somewhere around 8-12mph, depending on gearing. At least in the DC traction days, with AC it might be different. At lower speeds they were limited to prevent overheating some of the electrical components. Of course they would also start to drop off in power at higher speeds as the back-EMF built up. Comparatively, it's almost unheard-of for steam of equivalent horsepower to have more TE than a diesel. It's hard to beat having 100% of your weight on the drive wheels and the smooth, continuous nature of electric torque. But, it also took them a LONG time before they could actually get the horsepower of steam without having to use a pile of diesels. From the perspective of the railroads, it took 3 GP9s to get the power of a single 2-8-4 steamer, but those Jeeps together would put triple the starting TE to the rails. That meant they could overload the nuts off them and grind a million tons over the pass at 10mph without stalling the train. You could never do modern style PSR with steam; they'd have to go back to fast and frequent trains with real timetables. That would mean providing much faster and more reliable service to shippers - what horror!
Found it amusing the boxcar right behind the locomotive was Crab Orchard & Egyptian. CO&E was the last railroad using steam in regular revenue service into the late 70s or early 80s before switching over to some second hand MP switchers.
Good information to know.
CO&E is still lurking about Marion, under Progressive Rail, with newer cab-end switchers. Gone are the Marion Wildcats blue and gold and Herrin Tigers orange and black vintage switchers.
The COER car is right at home alongside the steam locomotive
The little engine that could seems to have no problem pulling these cars steam freight is so cool good video
Once you get the cars moving a steam locomotive actually beats a diesel, of course the operative word is moving. Diesels have far superior power at extreme slow speeds. The real reason that diesels won out is maintenance.
There is something so awe inspiring watching a steam locomotive doing freight work. Whether it's switching out an industry or hauling a consist
Now that is not something you see every day. Now I’m tempted to buy some modern equipment to run with my live steam!
I'd love to see some modern box cars on a live steam track.
@@MillBrookRailroad whoah. You’ve got quite the railroad. I subscribed. I think I will get a few modern boxcars and put graffiti on them. Imagine the comments from people saying it is not prototypical to move modern rail cars with my live steam. Lol
Something similar happened not far from where i live a year or so ago. A small loading site for wood and the new delivey of empties blocked the regular switcher. The nearest available loco was a small tank engine from the nearby railway museum, that got a well deserved run that way despite covid
Could you imagine just driving down the road & unknowingly that crosses the railroad tracks?
If that happened to me and I had time at all, I would try to chase it. Of course, not knowing the local map would be a handicap.
When a gallon of diesel is 5 bucks
And a ton of coal is 100.00 bucks I guess we are going back to steam
That would be cool to see.
Diesel-Electrics have far to many other advantages (dynamic braking and traction control). Steam relies on a supply of fuel, water, steam oil, and has much higher maintenance and start up costs in man-hours. If fuel costs ever became a motivating factor the industry to change they'd just electrify the rails instead.
Last time I checked, coal was over 200.00 a ton.
@@Cragified Long-term they would electrify but electric also takes a huge amount of infrastructure so shorter term, steam could fill in some capacity. Of course, the extant locomotives that are not in daily operational condition would also need a lot of service to get them back to that status. Organizing supplies of clean water and coal (or oil) would be quite simple. Training employees would also take some time. There are a "lot" of firemen, engineers, and such, but I can't imagine the proportion of them wanting to be line employees working steam power would be very high
@@frontagulus The infrastructure to support steam locomotives simply does not exist anymore and would cost as much if not more to even attempt.
Water towers are all gone. Coal docks, steam mechanics only exist in preservation. Parts such as brake shoes do not exist anymore for steam locomotives. They have to be custom ordered.
These problems are why diesel locomotives accompany excursion trains. Dynamic braking and diesel assistance to stretch water consumption and wear. It's not for electrical power as UP adds a generator car for that on their excursions.
What a great video and wonderful photography of this neat little Mogul! And how ironic that number 11 is pulling a Crab Orchard and Egyptian (COER) boxcar in the second half of the video. The CO&E in Marion, IL was one of the last short line railroads to use steam in freight service, up until the late 1970's. They had 2-4-2 #5, which went to the St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern (and needs restoration), and the 2-8-0 #17, which is now at the Boone & Scenic Valley RR as a static display. Good to see number 11 has been restored and is in operation today!
I love seeing these happy little shunters, pushing and pulling away like they used to when they were young
This is something you don’t see very often steam, pulling freight it’s like stepping back in time to the age of steam
Very true the only other railroad I know of that hauls revenue freight is the Strasburg railroad in Strasburg Pennsylvania. It's also the oldest common carrier railroad in the US.
@@EMDSD14R so very true it may be 4 miles long, but it is quite the tourist railroad of the eastern United States
Good to see the old girl still earning her keep after all these years.
Just a little trivia here... the boxcar behind the locomotive in several scenes carries the reporting marks "COER," or the Crab Orchard & Egyptian Railroad. The CO&E was the last railroad to use steam in daily common carrier freight service, only dieselizing in September, 1986.
While the car does carry the COER reporting mark, it does not belong to that railroad. The CO&E has leased its reporting mark to a fleet owner that just uses the reporting mark. The CO&E today owns no freight cars.
I've never heard of this railroad or this locomotive. Pretty neat to see one doing a freight job, even if it's only a couple cars long.
They are also restoring a 2-8-0
It was up to 6 cars at the end of the vid. I suppose they are all empty.
@@b43xoit Claysburg (the town in the video) has some deliveries to businesses but also acts as a storage line for NS cars.
Like an Amish work horse. Great video of a real working locomotive. Good stuff!
This is pretty awesome. My grandfather was an engineer for B&O/Chessie until he retired in 1968. Most of his years were running a switcher in the Ivorydale yard in St Bernard, Ohio. In an amazing twist of fate, I have his 1916 Hamilton 992 pocket watch, which like these old locos, still runs like the day it was built.
Best footage of a steam loco I’ve seen on UA-cam in a while
This is the hero we needed but didnt ask for. Ferwell Everet railroad No11.
Beautiful steamer! All dressed and ready to go! Great Whistle!
It's good seeing an old lady still doing some local freight
That's a Balwin 2-6-0 road steam engine. Good choice for switching and medium distance runs. They were light enough in weight to handle the bad track work of the period.
So glad to see these things still going strong. Nothing can mimic the sound either.
What a fascinating little film,great camera work.Thanks for posting.Regards from England.
There are fewer than 200 steam locomotives still in operation in the USA today. Great video.
Wish more railways could try to do stuff like this!
Especially Union Pacific
@@BNSF4706 up 844 was never officially taken out of service like if you look at the roster it’s still on there last I checked
@@BNSF4706 There’s a video out there on UA-cam of 3985 pulling a full double stack freight on the main years ago. That would be a sight to see.
Edit: found it ua-cam.com/video/XhgHrDbN4EU/v-deo.html
@@15nyonker thought Rick Ashley was gonna show up.
too expensive yk they cant even pay their workers.
A Steam locomotive doing switching in a Modern Yard? EPIC.
Dang, at first I thought this was a short line that somehow still ran revenue steam full time.
Add a caboose, and it would be perfect. Excellent video! Thanks for shooting and uploading it.
Just think, at the time they were in service, they were some of the largest steam engines next to the 2-8-0 Constilation and before the 2-8-2 Mikado. Now that boxcar dwarfs that engine.
Wow that’s so cool seeing an old steam locomotive at work instead of passenger excursions
Interesting to see the engine compared to modern freight cars.
Everett Railroad #11 is a 2-6-0 "Mogul" type steam locomotive built by ALCO in 1920, originally for export to Cuba. When plans to export the locomotive to Cuba fell through, it was sold in 1923 to the Narragansett Pier Railroad in Peace Dale, RI where it operated until 1937. Originally built as an oil burner, it was later converted to a coal burner. It was later sold in 1938 to the Bath & Hammondsport Railroad in Hammondsport, NY and operated there until its retirement from regular service in 1949. In 1981, it later was sold again to the Middletown & New Jersey Railroad in Middletown, NY, but would never operate on that line. In 2006, it was finally sold to the Everett Railroad in Hollidaysburg, PA and later restored to operating condition in October 2015. As of today, it is still operational and used in excursion service at the Everett Railroad between Hollidaysburg and the wye at Martinsburg Junction. In March 2022, it was recently converted from burning coal back to burning oil.
Wow that is so cool. Something I never would have expected to see today.
Loved this. Nicely composed, shot and some neat scenes. Thank you. I have a new respect for the Everett Mogul.
Pulling revenue runs helps with upkeep plus benefits keeping train functional ..seals packing bearings etc need regular use or things seize up
Keep these coming love revenue runs old iron thanks for posting 👍 5000 likes 👍
wow! I love this .Excellent videography ! The shots of the running gear were just great!
Such a fitting text and name on that car they picked up. "Excess Height Car" and then off to the right of that. "UCRY 15842" well it is fitting if you forget the excess height and end up crying when you bin it :D
This was really cool!!! It looks so out of place...but I love it!!!
One of my favorite videos! Love it! Thank you.
Love it! Great to see steam still active.
I hope it is working currently. Supposedly it is regular operation. We all hope. I am gauging this by the lack of local interest.. I.E. this event isn't attracting much attention. Had it been a one off I think more folks would be out of their houses checking out what is all the racket going on out there. 🙂
5:35 what an awesomely epic shot!!! Subbed!!
"Thanks for watching ? " well thanks for showing !! Superb footage being parallel to that lady, showing all that motion magic in action.
Poor freightcars, they´re probably freaking out behind that fury smoky devil. There was Crab Orchard & Égyptian.... now Everett ?
So cool, no ditch lights, no lime/pumpkin dress crew.....and that whistle. There´s magic with those steam one versus annoying diesel one. For a moment i almost hoped to see "Doc" with its modifief one....
Downright Awesome to see a Steam Engine NOT ! setting & Rusting Away but out there moving modern Day Freight.. Freight not passenger cars Wow I agree it's like when Steve Lee was asked if 3985 could pull that Intermodal stack Train & it was proven that Steam Engine working without any helpers could pull it & up Sherman which is not an easy climb but moving forward not only was watching the Steam Engine rewarding seeing the Area made watching the Video Enjoyable, We'll watch this Video Again but this time on our Big Screen TV 📺
Thanks for Sharing the Video Allen D
six modern rail cars for that little 2-6-0! Putting her to work and shes probably loving it
4:54 Love how that guy in the background stops what he's doing to watch, knowing damn well that he's seeing a steam locomotive pulling revenue freight.
We all know that there is something magical about a steam locomotive.
We all know that there is something magical about a steam locomotive.
It is lovely and hopeful to know that, even if it's highly diminished, Steam Locomotives still have a place in the modern world.
Several fireless steam locomotives were used in Germany as works locos until a short time ago, for instance in oil refineries, where locos with combustion engines or electric locos (danger of sparks at the overhead contact line) were considered to be too dangerous. A few are still operated in this function till this day...
12:22 I would really enjoy living in that house
The whistle blows at 3:05 to 3:25 sound just like a modern-day Canadian tuned K5H Airchime!
Nothing better than small steam. If I ever can afford to get the layout running, it’ll be a fleet of about 13 small steam on the Texas coast in the early 1900’s, mostly American types, used to be a 60-80’s diesel guy but early 1900’s small steam takes the cake in both prototype and model railroading
Great video and a beuttiful steam engine as well. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.
Nothing's better than a steam Revenue freight.
This is what make me wish I lived in America! Great video!
4:32 Propane delivery guy like HUH.... Definitely got his attention lol.
Alternative Revenue Streams... got to love them.
So nice to see that old girl working
It's a rare thing we see these days I hope some railways do this more often
It was really enjoyable watching that ol workhorse doing it's thing.
What a Little Work Horse! How Wonderful!!😅
I would have been stopped at the crossing, then.....honey, you drive, I'm seeing things 😊
Recommended title: "How Railroad address the cost of high diesel prices" :)
Fabulous! Thank you for posting this!
The little locomotive that could...reminds me of the author peet, with the lost loco & caboose
That was absolutely amazing. Thank you.
Wait hang on, this ISN'T a preserved line?
This company actually sent out a steam loco for revenue earning, main / branch line work?
The closest I can think to something like this happening in the UK was when GBRF sent out a Deltic diesel to run the aluminium tanks down south! But steam? This is awesome!
Can someone please give me the full details of how and why this came about? Who owns the loco etc?🙂
The engine is Everett Railroad 11, which works on it’s namesake line. The company sometimes sends the engine to haul revenue freights, though it mostly hauls excursions.
There's some info on the road at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_Railroad . In a reply to another comment, the OP says they were testing a different type of coal.
I don't see why a short line couldn't use steam full time nowadays instead of diesel. More cost effective, and so cool to see. Way better than excursion trains!
Until it's time to fix them and comply to fra rules and suddenly a 100k gp is 10x cheaper lol
It is absolutely not more cost effective. It’s really cool to see and railroads should do it more often, but upkeep on steam locomotives is much more expensive, and they need much more downtime between runs.
Loved the video. Those rails at 13:46 - 13:51 seem too light a duty (50 lbs/yrd?) for the heavy
modern freight cars. i didn't know those modern cube cars r so tall, 3x the ht of the brakeman!
Get more industries, esp. the distribution warehouses n farm products, etc. along this wonderful
Everett RR w this cute 2-6-0 mighty little engine.
This is the real thing; nothing phony or adulterated ! Now I can see, hear, and feel how the railway would have been in the 1920's, without trying to imagine it. I've got tears in my eyes. There should be actual steam locomotives running revenue freights on selected routes across the country; and I mean WITHOUT the insult of backup/emergency diesel locomotives with them. It would be very inefficient, and expensive to run, but perhaps it could break even with the operating costs ?? But it would be fun to see freights go through the Appalachians, and along CSX's water level route at full speed. Wowwwy ! This is a hundred times better than watching these treasures sit in standing museums. Maybe some philanthropic millionaire could finance half a dozen to run actual service across the country ?!
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On cross country runs there would need to be a diesel behind it. Infrastructure like water and coal towers are mostly gone, and in some places there isn’t enough fuel to get between stops.
Lovely train. Some seriously wonky tracks at 6:00 . Why is the bell ringing continually?
Unfortunate that she needs to run tender first, no turn table or a loop to head front, but I guess any way facing will do when theirs work to be done!
nice catch, thanks for sharing.
Same goes for all the freight carriers using dc3s and dc4s. If it's still capable of doing the job and is paid for and you can afford the repairs use it
Well, you know the saying then, "The only replacement for a DC3 is another DC3".
Outstanding video !
I hate to be that one Thomas fan out here, but this scenario is actually very similar to Edward's Day Out. Old train is never used because new train exists, and gets used anyway
some engines has gone extinct but steam locomotives are loved by most people. and that's why they will live forever. as long as we maintain and restore them they'll live for future generations to ooh and ahh
I LOVE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES >w
Beautiful galloping iron 😍😍😍
That was fascinating.
the ghost has been reawoken, her engine beats with life!
this is amazing thank you for sharing
the Bath and Hammondsport 2-6-0 #11 Is Back in service!!!
Great video! Thanks for posting!
Would have been nice to know the context in which they were shunting the freight cars, it now only shows some nice steam engine pics pulling freight cars. For an outsider/foregner it would have been nice to know where and why.