My methodology is, the moment I unlock foundations and logistics, I drop spaghetti. Everything is organized after that. Makes the teardown near painless
That's quite true, when you say "this spaghetti is an example of how life is going" I felt that too taking a look at my own spaghetti, you have a nice voice. Don't give up
The worst part about letting your build become messy, is that later on in the game when you decide to 'clean it up' it's like starting over! Yep! I know by experience! I made it to tier 5 by kind of brute force and then realized I wanted to 'organize' into a main base. Wow! That was basically starting over, 30-40 hours later I'm back to where I was as far as production is concerned, but it looks good! :)
For trains, build parallel tracks and proper signaling so you can have multiple trains running the same routes. This can help if you have a throughput issue. Aluminum: I use sloppy alumina and pure ingots. This removes silica completely from the equation, which simplifies setups a lot. The water output from the scrap can be fed back into the input of the alumina solution. You'll need to make sure you don't have too much water coming in from water extractors. Balancing this removes the need for packaging and sinking water. Also, while not strictly required, I avoid pipes carrying 600/min like the plague. Most of the time it won't be perfect and causes problems with time. Nuclear power: overclock and sloop your uranium fuel rod manufacturers (doubles your power for a fraction of the alien power sloop cost, this might only be true if you have a large nuke plant compared to your fuel plants). Sink your plutonium fuel rods. This grants lots of points and you don't need to deal with plutonium waste/ficsonium (yet). Satisfactory tools website can be great for planning production, but also can be intimidating when you see you need like 40 interconnected factories. Good luck!
@stevenspencer306 Thank you! I can see what you mean about avoiding 600m/s water pipes because they seem to be inconsistent (and a 3- power slug reactor will keep turning off and on). Is there a way to address that with fluid buffers, or should I go back to the drawing board?
My tip: You're at a point where you can use the Online calculator tools effectively (e.g. Satisfactory Calculator). Let it calculate the optimal ratios of machines for existing production lines you have and compare what it should be to what you have, and then expand from there.
So it’s pretty hard to offer advice without knowing what recipes and alternatives your using so here is my advice based on the two problems you described. First your aluminum production. I can see you have most of the resources you will need available to you. You will need a source of limestone, sulfur, coal, and nitrogen gas for this alternative build new to 1.0. First you will need 3 alternate recipes. Quartz Purification (comes with distilled silica recipe too.), Instant Scrap, and Pink Diamonds. You start by blending nitric acid (you will need a minuscule amount of iron plates for this.). The nitric acid goes into an array of refineries to start the quartz purification. The produced quarts crystals get pumped into a Converter along with coal to make diamonds (excess quartz crystal can be used for Crystal Computers and Crystal Oscillators or sinked. The distilled silica is then pumped into an array of blenders with a small bit of limestone to create a massive amount of silica. This silica is then pumped into an array of foundries along with the aluminum scrap from the Instant Scrap recipe. The excess silica can now be used for whatever you want. (Such as silica connectors and silica circuit boards). You now how all the aluminum, silica, and quartz crystal you will ever need. (And if you used the additional recipes mentioned here you will cut oil entirely out of computer and electronics production)
The key to keeping the size of the build small is using Somersloops in strategic numbers and setups. For example. With Somersloops you can entirely cut out water production or rather make the system entirely self sufficient after being provided a jump start from a pump. (After that it’s self producing and you can remove the water extractor.) additionally with sloops, the water produced by say the distilled silica can then be fed back into the nitric acid completing a closed loop again.
For the oil field take however much crude oil you want to use multiply it by 3 and that’s the amount you can produce of Rubber, plastic, and fuel. Use diluted fuel in a blender and recycled plastic and rubber in a loop to produce the material you want.
Wow, thank you for such a detailed response. I have struggled with the alt recipes because I waited until later to get them (For example, I don't have the good screw recipe yet). I might have to do another round of Hard Drive exploring! Thank you for the tips about each part of the factory, I really appreciate it
@@skellboy a good alt recipe is worth rebuilding parts of the factory for. Especially because your in late game and things are consuming a lot of raw material. I use satisfactory tools to keep a mental map of what resources I need and how much of it.
I looked at quartz purification and said "Nope!" I don't want to add nitrogen, water, iron, and limestone into the equation. I know they make better use of the quartz on the map, but complicates things too much if you're not trying to maximize everything.
@@anderstempel916 Good luck! Phase 4 is where my plans to keep a neat and tidy factory really went off the rails, and I started connecting long conveyors on top of machines all over the base. Let us know how you go!
Bro, I thought my base was unorganised holy fuck, good luck
Yeah I'm in trouble 🤣🤣
My methodology is, the moment I unlock foundations and logistics, I drop spaghetti. Everything is organized after that. Makes the teardown near painless
This is such a good idea. After doing more research online, maybe I need to embrace verticality too?
@@skellboy verticality is also great. It allows for logistics floors.
That's quite true, when you say "this spaghetti is an example of how life is going" I felt that too taking a look at my own spaghetti, you have a nice voice. Don't give up
Thank you for your comment. I hope things can be a little less spaghetti for you soon!
The worst part about letting your build become messy, is that later on in the game when you decide to 'clean it up' it's like starting over! Yep! I know by experience! I made it to tier 5 by kind of brute force and then realized I wanted to 'organize' into a main base. Wow! That was basically starting over, 30-40 hours later I'm back to where I was as far as production is concerned, but it looks good! :)
@veracityseven Totally! The urge to Save the Day is strong, but the urge to optimise is stronger
For trains, build parallel tracks and proper signaling so you can have multiple trains running the same routes. This can help if you have a throughput issue. Aluminum: I use sloppy alumina and pure ingots. This removes silica completely from the equation, which simplifies setups a lot. The water output from the scrap can be fed back into the input of the alumina solution. You'll need to make sure you don't have too much water coming in from water extractors. Balancing this removes the need for packaging and sinking water. Also, while not strictly required, I avoid pipes carrying 600/min like the plague. Most of the time it won't be perfect and causes problems with time. Nuclear power: overclock and sloop your uranium fuel rod manufacturers (doubles your power for a fraction of the alien power sloop cost, this might only be true if you have a large nuke plant compared to your fuel plants). Sink your plutonium fuel rods. This grants lots of points and you don't need to deal with plutonium waste/ficsonium (yet). Satisfactory tools website can be great for planning production, but also can be intimidating when you see you need like 40 interconnected factories. Good luck!
@stevenspencer306 Thank you! I can see what you mean about avoiding 600m/s water pipes because they seem to be inconsistent (and a 3- power slug reactor will keep turning off and on). Is there a way to address that with fluid buffers, or should I go back to the drawing board?
@@skellboy I personally don't go above 200% on reactors for that reason.
My tip: You're at a point where you can use the Online calculator tools effectively (e.g. Satisfactory Calculator). Let it calculate the optimal ratios of machines for existing production lines you have and compare what it should be to what you have, and then expand from there.
So it’s pretty hard to offer advice without knowing what recipes and alternatives your using so here is my advice based on the two problems you described.
First your aluminum production. I can see you have most of the resources you will need available to you. You will need a source of limestone, sulfur, coal, and nitrogen gas for this alternative build new to 1.0.
First you will need 3 alternate recipes. Quartz Purification (comes with distilled silica recipe too.), Instant Scrap, and Pink Diamonds. You start by blending nitric acid (you will need a minuscule amount of iron plates for this.). The nitric acid goes into an array of refineries to start the quartz purification. The produced quarts crystals get pumped into a Converter along with coal to make diamonds (excess quartz crystal can be used for Crystal Computers and Crystal Oscillators or sinked.
The distilled silica is then pumped into an array of blenders with a small bit of limestone to create a massive amount of silica. This silica is then pumped into an array of foundries along with the aluminum scrap from the Instant Scrap recipe. The excess silica can now be used for whatever you want. (Such as silica connectors and silica circuit boards).
You now how all the aluminum, silica, and quartz crystal you will ever need. (And if you used the additional recipes mentioned here you will cut oil entirely out of computer and electronics production)
The key to keeping the size of the build small is using Somersloops in strategic numbers and setups. For example. With Somersloops you can entirely cut out water production or rather make the system entirely self sufficient after being provided a jump start from a pump. (After that it’s self producing and you can remove the water extractor.) additionally with sloops, the water produced by say the distilled silica can then be fed back into the nitric acid completing a closed loop again.
For the oil field take however much crude oil you want to use multiply it by 3 and that’s the amount you can produce of Rubber, plastic, and fuel. Use diluted fuel in a blender and recycled plastic and rubber in a loop to produce the material you want.
Wow, thank you for such a detailed response. I have struggled with the alt recipes because I waited until later to get them (For example, I don't have the good screw recipe yet). I might have to do another round of Hard Drive exploring!
Thank you for the tips about each part of the factory, I really appreciate it
@@skellboy a good alt recipe is worth rebuilding parts of the factory for. Especially because your in late game and things are consuming a lot of raw material. I use satisfactory tools to keep a mental map of what resources I need and how much of it.
I looked at quartz purification and said "Nope!" I don't want to add nitrogen, water, iron, and limestone into the equation. I know they make better use of the quartz on the map, but complicates things too much if you're not trying to maximize everything.
I watched this video and it cooked all the spaghetti in my house. Who do I talk to about a refund??
@@Wozzup1223 Important follow-up. Was it mom's spaghetti?
Lol my 1.0 world has like 40 hours and I’m just starting phase 4
@@anderstempel916 Good luck! Phase 4 is where my plans to keep a neat and tidy factory really went off the rails, and I started connecting long conveyors on top of machines all over the base. Let us know how you go!