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The entire show is basically: terrorists aren’t bad, they’re just misunderstood and also this is all your fault somehow.
I bet they will bring back Chris Evans have him proud Falcon for defending terrorists to destroy Cap's character even more they did same thing in Secret Invasion with Skrulls
And these terrorist were inspired by the mind of Thanos. A guy who has done tenfold worse than these terrorists. For all the crap people give the Flag Smashers, Thanos gets to slide. How jarring.
In APB Reloaded, one of the enforcer contacts will sometimes tell you at the start of a mission: "Some people say these criminals are just misunderstood. Thirty years as a cop says otherwise."
@wickdaline8668 Thanos is well written, the flag smasher weren't. That simple.
@@HonkaiMain lol, yeah the 😢 face little girl bad guy isn’t very intimidating or convincing in any aspect.
"You have to stop calling them terrorists"
"Just ask why"
@@Alteori”because it could hurt their feelings”
They aren't terrorists though. They are overly energetic protestors who occasionally make oopsies
@@Darkfire7881 🤣
Dont call them bad directors and writters 😡
They really made Falcon one of the most unlikable characters all because they wanted to spread “the message.”
(with reverb)
@@freelancerthe2561
*M E S S A G E E E E*
And accidentally created a likeable character, John Walker.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p
Dude John Walker deserved better. He earned that shield more than Falcon ever did.
He's basically just A-Train.
Walker: saves sam's life
Sam: "go away jerk😡"
Karli: mass murderer
Sam: "YoU nEeD tO sToP cAlLiNg ThEm TeRrOrIsTs"
Getting mad a guy's best friend has a code name.
Attacking a dude for killing a terrorist
Being mad that a dude tried to talk down a tense situation with the Dora Milaj (Almost certainly misspelling that)
Being upset a dude vouched for you to get you out of jail when you violate your parole
He wasn't even just "mad" when Walker tried to talk down the Dora the Explorers. He stood by quipping while they were actively trying to kill Walker.
@@slaapt Under woke law. Man bad. Woman good.
Walker is the most heroic character in the show.
Yeah but Walker is white though
Falcon: “You have to stop calling them terrorists.”
Senator: “Then what are we supposed to call them?! They blew up a building and murdered hundreds of innocent people!”
Falcon: “Well-“ **long pause** “Terrorists…”
Senator: “Exactly.”
How do those boots taste?
@@INFILTR8US which boots my guy?
….. that Falcon “you got to do better” monologue, is so….. it’s the moment it made me go “NOPE! I’m done with MCU!!”
I immediately hated the character at the utterance of those words
Whenever I mess up I chastise myself by reciting that phrase in a mocking sing-songy tone. It's fun
In my version of the MCU. There is no Falcon and Winter soldier show. It turn into movie that is build up to after Endgame. So in movie there 5 points that you have to know.
1. Sam does not become Captain America. Does Bucky. Bucky does have a Redemption Arc. And Sam does become more of his own character. Falcon is his name and he owns it.
2. No flag Smasher who are not Terrorists but misunderstood violence killing kidnapping peacefull protesters. So yeah they are not in my version.
3. Captain Walker or fake Cap whatever you want to call him is not here either. There no Thunderbolts and if you want to ses a government abused super soldier just watch The Boys.
4. Nick Fury is in this movie and yes he will be cool. I know Marvel made that hard to believe in past few years but yes I am doing that.
5. Yes it be a political Thriller but not a Force woke narrative one. Red Skull comes back along with Taskmaster from my version of Black widow movie. Who yes is not a woman.
That monologue is what signaled the beginning of the end of the MCU. It’s like from that moment on any remains of good writing started to crumble entirely
"YOU GOTTA DO BETTER, DISNEY!"
Bro who keeps hiring these writers and directors.
They're all in the cliques of white privilege that's who.
Writer union politics
Hollywood is just one big club.
The ones hates white male characters
Maybe they hire these people from California? 🤔
Bucky should have been Captain. We all know it. Marvel knows it. Disney knows it. That's why they didn't do it.
No. They shouldn’t have aged Steve. Chris Evans had plenty of years left to play Cap.
@@weaponeer8582 He wanted to leave Marvel.
@@Vespyr_ he mentioned that he’d be willing to come back before Endgame was released. If they gave him enough money, he’d come back.
@@weaponeer8582 Ofc. They could always find a way, I know Hollywood thinks audiences can't suspend disbelief on character deaths and that's why they reboot everything but comic books have proven people are just fine with characters being revived.. If they want, they can bring both Steve and Tony back.
I think that was the plan until the George Floyd riots then they changed it
About on par with Spectrum telling Wanda "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them".
This is why I fuckin' hate Scarlet Witch.
In my version of MCU. WandaVision never happens. Instead between Endgame and Dr. Strange 2. Wanda travel the world to learn more about herself. When she kept having dreams to tell her to go to a certain location. That is when she finds the Darkhold. She starts reading it. Gaining it power. She finds out if she could drain the power of other darkholds within the Multiverse. She can gain the power to bring back the dead. Not only her parents, brother and yes even Vision but also people who died at her home city, the people at Logos, Tony Stark, Natasha everyone who ever died. This makes Wanda motivation way more sense than her just wanting two kids who never really existed and from a universe where they already have a mom. There no dumb American Chavez. Instead a new magic artifact call the Rubik's Cube. This cube when master has the power for any person to travel throughout the Multiverse. Once drain it power she can than drain the power of all Darkholds in the Multiverse. Bring people back from dead. However the universe has Universal rules that can't be broken with dark magic. The dead come back as zombies eating the souls of the living. Dr. Strange stops her of course. If you want hear the full story get this comment to 100 likes.
Since at this time. I have 36 likes. I will start part 1 of the story. Go below comments to see it.
Watching this kind of rewievs makes me feel happy to stop watching anything related to MCU after Endgame. Well, exept Spiderman. For me the story ends there, on high note and I'm mostly unaware what happend after
Nothing like having the African-American character apologize for the distraught white woman enslaving the town. "Tone Deaf" doesn't begin to describe it.
@sukhrobmirzodavlatov2385 Guardians 3 was pretty enjoyable. Not perfect, but better than the other Phase Four and Five stuff.
"They'll never let a black man carry that shield"
Dude WTF are you talking about? No one was forcing Sam to give up the shield - he gave it up himself. They were 100% ok with Sam being the next Captain America but then he gave it up and they chose to give it to the next best option they could find.
Nah, we are not that far from racism where America would wholly accept a black Captain America. Those who do are the exception.
It was a relatable and good idea that was poorly executed and they should of tied Isiah Bradley more to the story
@@AgeOfRamp It doesn't matter about what's going on in the real world, what matters is that in the show itself not a single person was against Sam being Captain America before he gave up the shield or after he put on the new suit in the last episode.
@@AgeOfRampYou one of those people who said Obama would never become President because he black aren't you. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
@@theinsurance2450 Exactly!
@@andrewdowns3673 Like seriously did he even think when he wrote that. We have many black people in power. Governors, mayors, judges, senators, House of Representatives etc. Even in this universe of the MCU back in 2008 There was an Air Force colonel of military James Rhodes. Who the government let be their personal armor suit Soldier and even paint him Iron Patriot who they publicly promoted. As well guard freaking Air Force One with the president. They let a black man Nick Fury be the director of the most powerful security Force agency in the world. This guy talking like they will never let a black man be Captain America. Dude got to stop watch CNN.
I hate how modern media is about not owning up to the things you've done and normalizing zero accountability to your own actions. Its terrible story telling.
Genuine, legitimate narcissists trying to normalize the way they see the world. This is why everyone rejects it as the toxin it actually is.
Well it's more accurately pushing blame all on one side and then never taking any responsibility for their actions.
Because it's written/produced by narcissists
Don’t forget normalizing making people you don’t like pay for your actions
I just don't get this bad person had bad thing done to them therefore they're not bad. Yes they are! They chose to continue the cycle! That's bad! I get having sympathy for the bad guys but nowadays shows and movies straight up want you to see these villains as heroes. Not every underdog is a good guy, Hollywood!
That "You have to do better senator!" line is so awkward and preachy, me and my friends use it as a gag in our friend group because we find it hilarious.
Better yet, it’s in the senator’s best interest not to solve problems. Otherwise, how would they get reelected?
@@MyShiroyukiThe Dems play book.
It is cringy as fuck.
@@theinsurance2450
Seems like Republicans perfected the Dems play book then, and added to it.
@@CedricBassman LOL. Then ask yourself. Why does Oakland, Chicago, Detroit and several other Dem run cities still a crime filled mess for the past few decades I'll wait. EXPLAIN to me why in the past 3 years. People been moving away from Democrat states NY and California to Republicans states like Florida and Texas. Lol wake up sheep.
Even Elizabeth Olsen says she was frustrated what they did with the character and how they kept changing it. It's no wonder the movie doesn't make any logical sense.
Bucky was probably slated to get the shield before "The Message" took over writing.
They did sign him for 9 movies, I heard. But no, *"The Message".*
@@thatHARVguy thats bullshit 9 movies? Yeah right
Steven Strange sacrificed himself countless times to lock Dormamu in a time loop until he pestered him into leaving humanity alone. Countless very painful looking deaths. Dude sacrificed plenty.
Also the Flag smashers stole people's homes after the blip. Yea they were gone but when they came back they SHOULD have just said "My bad." and left. Instead they start murdering people to try to force them to submit. But nah, its not the criminals fault, its everyone else's!
Devil’s advocate, but nobody knew they would come back. So it’s a whole grey area where people decide to give back the homes or not.
Although I do agree going full on terrorist because of it was absolutely the wrong move.
I think it would have made more sense if surviving descendants, or even the government, literally sold those homes to people and suddenly the real owners are back and want their homes back but the people in them are genuinely like "I paid for this though" and it's all a real mess lol
That seems to be the main narrative lately, bad people are good and good people are bad.
@@WildZephyrCan't do that. It's too sensible.
It wasn't that they refused to leave, it was that there was no where for them to go and the government didn't help them, but rather turned them into criminals.
*You have to stop calling them terrorists * this is modern era they see terrorists as good guys and wants us sympathic with then even modern female characters with no flaws
Because the Regime in power is fully in support of dismantling this Nation...
When a Regime is in power, they endorse what they are pushing..
Hold on to your tits but terrorists are often freedom fighters with a different name
"...they see terrorists as good guys..."
Just the ones they support, as I am fairly sure any movie dealing with the worse days of the clan would not be portraying they as misunderstood.
Unless the "terrorist" is question is an old lady holding a flag
Disney "So audiences hate our political correctness and won't see our movies because of it?"
Also Disney "So what can we do about it? I know, double, nay, triple down on our political correctness."
Their ultimate goal is to normalize this,soooooooo.....
what does pc have to do with it?
@@vertigo2894 they are trying to be political correct in a would where there are no good sides and they are forcing they side they believe is good on to there movies making them shit because the writer have to make a story then fit the politics on top of the movie bugging it all up
@@jim4194 That is nasty but it isnt political correctness.
At this point you can't even call it political correctness. More like stupidity.
I hate the trend of turning villains into anti heros like why cant villains stay villains
Because the writers and Hollywood know they are evil themselves and in this way they justify themselves
This right here is why people loved Green Goblin so much. No reason to be an evil dick, he just was evil cuz it was fun. You could say he liked being bad cuz it made him happy
😎👉👉
Cause the writers relate to them...
"There are no good original black characters...." so then people are fine with race swapping.
The Flacon is a great character. There is zero need to alter him or give him the shield.
He doesn't need a name change. The Falcon is a fantastic name for a heroic character.
Static Shock (admittedly a DC character) was definitely a great black character with a relatable backstory to many black people. Being a good person forced into being a criminal and did his best to save others from the situation he used to be.
Until modern writers decided to use him for politics and trying to change his backstory from getting his powers at a gang war to him getting them at a BLM rally where police brutality and racism gave him powers instead.
Also that giving Falcon his canon powers makes him the greatest spy ever (In the comics, he can see through the eyes of every bird within a certain range, at least enough to cover all of NYC)
@@MyShiroyukiGod, that was hilarious. "So rather than Gangbangers, the Bang Babies are now all BLM protestors who got superpowers."
People who aren't twits: "Yall realize that the Bang Babies were all villains, minus Virgil and Richie, because they were all gangbangers before getting powers? They just went from criminals to criminals with powers. Having them be 'peaceful protestors' who gain superpowers and all instantly decide to terrorize the city? You don't see the subtext there?"
@MyShiroyuki Also didn't an episode from the classic show write a an actual episode to address racism properly?
@@Armory_4Yes. Richie's father is racist, something that Virgil's father calls him out on after Richie runs away for being racist towards his best friend, especially when he tries to insist "I wasn't talking about Virgil". I don't remember the whole speech but it started with "No, you were just talking about His Kind."
Giving Falcon the sheild felt like it was a slap in the face to him, like being Falcon wasn't good enough. Imagine someone telling you that being you isn't good enough, you have to be them.
Is it really though considering Steve entrusted the shield to him? Never once did Steve say that Falc has to be him. He merely trusted him to carry on what he fought for. In reality it was the government that forced Sam to take the Cap mantle because God forbid there was no Captain America in the world. Falcon could have just as easily stayed Falcon and just added the shield to his arsenal
@@Drums_of_LiberationNah. It was forced. Bucky was hinted at being the successor since the beginning. It also makes much more sense. He's a supersoldier so the shield is more useful in his hands. And his whole gimmick isn't based on wings which are not really compatible with throwng things which often necessitates to use the ground. He's also someone who desperately needs redemption and to leave the Winter SOldier personna behind. So a new superhero identity would be perfect.
@@thibaldus3Bucky was hinted at from the start, including using the shield in every movie, because Bucky was the second Captain America in the comics. Sam was the third, but he didn't become Cap until the CA movies were out. So it just became "Uh, in Endgame Steve gives his shield to Sam"
@@Drums_of_Liberation I'm making a comment on the editors for the comics and the producers for the films. He had is own identity. They needed to do him justice, not push someone else's identity on him.
It really makes you think doesn't it? The sjw don't consider a black person "good enough" by themselves, they always try to put them on white people places. That´s my personal problem with race changes, is like they give black people the "leftovers" of white people
You know what would have been a better idea for an Anthony Mackie MCU movie?… The Falcon.
I had no idea there's a Captain America 4 💀
Same here,it proves I'm no longer interested with marvel anymore....
Actually there isn't because there is no Captain America in it.
Is like making a Superman film but is just Batman dressed as Superman.
it will be, a bunch of reshoots later
Same
Neither did anyone else.
I lost all respect for Captain Falcon when he defended the Flag Smashers. It was like making an excuse for Hydra, the people Cap tried to stop originally. Hydra did many evil acts to suit their own political agenda. What’s Sam’s excuse for them I wonder?
they shoulda went all the way and made cap falcon a smasher too.
"No you see, Hydra were naz1s and were right leaning! The Flag Smashers are against America for the *correct* reasons so they're justified in their actions! And you can't compare the two or we'll call you bigoted!"
Hydra is more tolerable than the Flag Smashers. At least their goal is simple.
You mean like Steve defended Wanda and Pietro, who VOLUNTEERED for a Hydra science experiment? And proceeded to help Ultron?
Strange was stuck in a time loop, getting killed countless times over in order to trap Dormammu and eventually negotiate his retreat. He likely did that knowing that he may be trapped in an endless loop, dying over and over.
I once came up with a concept over a snack. If they _had_ to make Sam more like Captain America, then they could keep the new suit, give him his own shield, and call him "Eagle" - simple, it does everything you wanted while sticking to the original bird naming motif.
The politics in CA: Winter Soldier were provocative, and they were a criticism of our real government, by people who think that our government is immoral/amoral to have all the wars and military action we've done so far.
The line was something like: We'll make everyone so afraid of the rest of the world that they'll beg us to protect them.
I watched it and applied also: We'll make everyone so afraid of normal life, that they'll beg us to take control of every aspect of their lives. But I realized the filmmakers weren't trying to convey that message.
I hated how Falcon say they have a common struggle, like while true it was the terrorist that choose to targets other rather then trying to work toward a common goal. They were the one dividing people.
There is no good and evil in the mind of a progressive. Those are classical views and progressives are post-modernists who see everything as subjective shades of gray. There is no "truth", only "my truth".
You didn't see it coming that Falcon would become the new Captain? You really thought that modern disney would allow a white man to be Captain America?
Couple years later…
“You really thought modern Disney would let a black man be Captain America?” When the new Captain America is a black trans woman in a wheelchair.
@@MyShiroyukiit's going to get way worse 😂
Sam's been Captain America before. 2014 - Captain America Vol. 7 #25. This isn't a WOKE thing as it's an idea that's been around for a while.
@mbphilipblack8993 4:23
@@MauZangetsu That works to but my comment was in response to the OP
Believe it or not, I once got called a racist on Twitter - *_shocker_* - when I replied to a tweet about Falcon and the Winter Solder. I didn't use any inflammatory language, nor did I use a slurs whatsoever - I merely stated that it would've been more sensible for Steve to give Bucky his shield, using such evidence as:
- Them being close friends since they were children
- They fought together in WWII and in the events leading up to Endgame, and most importantly...
- *Bucky is an actual super soldier, with just about all the same strengths as Steve.*
Well, it didn't take long for people to reply to that tweet, calling me all sorts of names like racist, a Trump supporter (not wrong there, but that's besides the point), a White supremacist and an incel. Looking back, it makes me laugh that apparently an insignificant tweet like that could trigger so many people - nowadays though, I still stand by it because I do believe that's what should've happened... _amongst other things._
Now that I hear that Stan isn't going to be in the movie, I can almost safely guarantee that his absence will most likely affect the film's overall performance. Then again, it's not like the MCU has been doing that great in the past few years anyway! I mean, there last arguably good film was GoTG 3! Truth is, people will most likely skip this film when it eventually drops, whereas more people will probably end up seeing Deadpool 3 when that comes out this summer (especially since the film's got Hugh *freaking* Jackman reprising his role as _the_ Wolverine!)
Americans are weird because they only know how to use those buzzwords.
Lol they really don't know how to give up arent they?
You're a racist. Own it
@@NetBattler That is all they have.
Welcome to dealing with the kind of "liberals" with such a lack of self-awareness, they jump head first and smiling into terms like "libtard," the type to preen about "you can't be racist against white people" and "you can't be sexist against men" while treating others in the exact same way they claim is so awful and accuse of others. If logical consistently weren't so important, their mental gymnastics would be impressive.
I can't like falcon after his show he talked all big about PTSD and when Walker was clearly having these problems he basically tells him to suck it up. WTF man.
The writers even have basic consistency problems...
He does!? Ugh.
He didn't do such thing. Walker was just not Fit to be Cap
@@AkkatlahI hope you're not lying about something that takes 10 seconds to look up
@@Akkatlah
Agent Walker did nothing wrong.
Nowadays I just systematically boycott any piece of "entertainment" that is trying to slip political messaging in it. I'm so damn sick of it.
Have you had your head in the sand for the last 50 years? Video entertainment started to influence people. It has always been a source of political messaging & programming. Every single piece of has something political in it.
When you agree with the politics or programming, you don’t see it. When you don’t agree with it, it slaps you in the face.
@@BokushingusKendoTVincorrect
@@BokushingusKendoTVexactly. They have no problem with media pushing an agenda so long as it's an agenda they agree with
@@crimsonking7179It is in a sense. The first propaganda films came out over a hundred years ago, so they have been around for a while.
1915's Birth of a Nation was about as blatant in pushing its own ideology (the "Lost Cause of the Confederacy") as any movie today is with theirs.
@johnh.mcsaxx3637 Mario, Sonic, Legend of Zelda aren't propaganda. Video games weren't political propaganda.
Anyone notice how a lot of Marvel superheroes have messed up moralities lately?
Dr Strange ignored Westview, Scarlet Witch is made sympathetic despite being a murderous psychopath, Falcon Cap defends terrorists; what happened to heroes being good people?
I think the problem is that a lot of writers ( and people) seem to think that trauma and suffering give you a justification to do terrible things. They don't realize that just because you understand and pity a villian's actions doesn't mean you excuse them.
@@Lazyguy143 and they believe this because they'd be doing awful things themselves if they had the power to.
One of the most interesting things about Falcon and the Winter Soldier was John walker and the division on how he was received by the fans. Some people received him as the villain the show meant him to be, but others sat and really asked what he did wrong to be depicted as a villain and weighed the moral and legal implications of his position. Some people are die hard supporters of John and say he was the tragic hero of the story.
Great videos:
*Loomar* - _"The Sympathetic Strawman - How Marvel Accidentally Created One of the Best MCU Characters (+ others)"_
*Clipped Coin* - _"Army Veteran Breaks Down John Walker Scene - Falcon and Winter Soldier"_
@@thatHARVguy I've seen all of those, hell I've even spent the better part of a month in a flame war defending Walker.
Honestly I think the second part reflects more about me.
This is a constant thing that keeps happening with media producers forcing *the message* onto audiences. Their *message* is so backwards and legitimately evil that when they push figures as villains, they keep running into the fact that the villains are more morally upright individuals than those they've designated as heroes.
Why does bro look like he's about to ask his wife where his supersuit is in that thumbnail?
Oh God ahah
BUCKY, WHERE IS MY SUPER SHIELD
In the comics, Steve Rogers was assassinated at the end of the "Civil War" event. Bucky took on the duties and mantle of Captain America, but because of his history as Winter Soldier, he was always either being watched by or accompanied by Iron Man and/or Falcon to make sure he never slipped up. He was constantly redeeming and proving himself throughout the entire story to be not just good, but worthy of carrying on Steve's legacy.
But no, the next Captain America needs to be black so guve the shield to Sam. 🙄
iirc there were comics where Sam Wilson becomes the captain, but it’s also one of the worst Captain America comics ever
@@ryon5174There were, years after Bucky's run
@@ryon5174 Correct
The subtitle of this film, which goes from “The New World Order” to “Brave New World”, in case you haven't noticed, already explains a lot about who controls Disney and why it is like that, I think they changed the title because The intention would be very obvious if the title were about the New World Order.
You do realize that’s not real, right? The NWO was a phrase used by Bush 41 to describe the post-Cold War world. There’s plenty of nefarious stuff to find that’s LIKE the NWO stuff, but the actual concept never existed in the form you seem to think.
Right? These people are fuckin Nazis.
Bucky should've gotten the shield to continue his redemption arc
JUSTICE for Bucky!
The lack self responsibility in movies, shows, and the world in general is scary af!!
We really need to get these writers who believe good is evil and evil is good out of the industry.
Out of the planet is more like it
@@Cavpal Unfortunately, launching people into space without enough fuel to return isn't cheap enough yet.
It was never done in the comics until Disney took over Marvel… Bucky is the only one who takes Capt’s mantle. (Disney tricked everyone by changing the comics first then telling fans “it was in the comics” as if they weren’t the ones who made the change.)
Black man got shield. I’m mad 😡
@@justinberry6411 tell me you’re not a comic book fan without telling me you’re not a comic book fan… Also, insinuating fans just don’t like the change for racial reasons doesn’t work on me.
@@Starvin-Marvin falcon became cap so long ago man, Marvel studios is just keeping current with the current comics. Just like how they used the newer Guardians line up instead of the original for the movies. Good try though 👍
@@justinberry6411 that doesn’t change what he said tho? He said it was a Disney change and he’s correct Sam didn’t become cap till after Disney purchased marvel.
@@justinberry6411 Just because you don't have the capacity to think and act a decade in advance doesn't mean that Disney doesn't.
Putting Sam in that silly white costume (yes it's from the comic) and giving him the shield was a mistake. The Falcon was such a good. He earned his place in the Avengers.
Sam wasn't set up to get the shield because it was fairly last minute. When the first CA movie came out, Bucky had been Captain America for a while (couple years iirc). So Marvel Studios kept teasing Bucky as the next Cap, particularly with him using Steve's shield in every movie. But THEN in 2014, Sam became Captain America in the comics (after nearly killing himself flying a bomb into the upper atmosphere). So Endgame rolled around and Marvel just said "Fuck it. Steve gives his shield to Sam"
You're spot on. Bucky was in fact supposed to get the shield as he did in the comics but the woke writers at Disney threw a hissy fit and they had to rewrite it last minute.
WandaVision was a great story about a hero turning dark until the reveal where they never introduced Mephesto, they don't have her be told she's being a villain, and Agatha isn't flipped into a hero role.
It would've been epic.
I think I know what you are saying here 🤔......
But you gotta type this better, Senator! 😉
"until the reveal where they never introduced Mephesto"
I'm with you on the other stuff, but you can't really blame the writers for the Fanbase mass hallucinating a reveal that made next to no sense.
@CedricBassman Mephesto making her turn villain makes more sense than what we got.
@@TonkaJay
Only if you don't know the Character, at all.
In the Comics Wanda was always mentally unstable, especially when faced with extreme Trauma, which resulted in her being the Villain of a Story more than once.
So WandaVision is very in line with that, showing how the Grief over Vision drove her insane and into villainy.
Mephisto randomly showing up wouldn't make any sense, since Wanda literally has zero connections to Mephisto. Magic as a connection simply doesn't cut it, and neither does the Darkhold since that was written by a Elder God named Chthon.
If anything, even Chthon showing up would've made infinitely more sense than Mephisto
@@CedricBassman oh, so he had no part in the twins being created?
Or taken?
And now you know how the old school comic book fans feel about the falcon American
'How do you write such believable women?'
'I think of a man. Then, I remove reason and accountability.'
The funny thing is the point of his character in that movie was that he was a bigoted jerk so people like quoting him unironically makes on par with the kind of people who side with characters like Eric Cartman and Uncle Ruckus, too self-unaware to realise the writers weren't actually condoning their behaviour.
@MagcargoMan What's really funny is why you said all that and didn't address the comparison of Melvin to certain other writers spoken about in this video. Because they're writing women in the same way.
@@MrDemocles Just because you only cherrypick media to justify being a bad person doesn't mean it's the majority.
@@MagcargoMan You're reading the wrong meaning from his comment. He's not saying the quote unironically, he's stating that the WRITERS OF THE SHOW think like that.
I'm glad im not the only one who felt this way. I watched the first episode and was so bored that I just couldn't be bothered to watch the rest of the show
Capt Falcon not calling terrorist for what they are reminds me of Joe Biden apologizing for calling "illegal alien" to a murderer who happens to be an illegal alien. He was more concerned about the criminal's feeling than about the victim. These point of view on these soft on crime crime policies, no bails really makes me question that criminals must love voting blue...
Of course they love voting democrat. The democrat party is the party of criminals, poor and rich.
Hollywood has a twisted sense of morality.
The content we engage in that have terrible ideas and horrible role models will affect our own choices and behaviour, and our values.
It's like a contagion of nihilism.
If you're stupid enough to make your life choices based on dumb superhero movies that's squarely on you.
Correction: Hollywood has a sense of money, not morality. Oddly, their sense of money has been off, lately.
Honestly to me Personally, I wish Bucky was the Next Captain America and Sam to stay as Falcon because Bucky truly knows what Captain America truly Means and he could’ve been that Same Symbol in own Modern Times while Sam is a Side Character that makes the Wrong Choices that not even Steve would have ever do it.
……….agreed!
They couldn't let do that they hate white male characters they even turned Barron Zemo into cringe dancer
I would have preferred it if no one was the next Cap. There's only one.
😂 bs You want Bucky to be Cap because he is white.
@@Akkatlahahh yes the "you're just racist" non argument. You've really swayed everyone
I didn’t like Falcon getting the Shield 🛡️ because he’s not a super soldier. It should have been Bucky as he’s the one with super powers! 🤦🏾♀️ Then there is the redemption arc which is totally being ignored 🚶🏾♀️
I know this is a captain America video, but I’d just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Wanda also brainwashed the Hulk into attacking a city, which indirectly lead his exile on Sakar, and definitively lead to the deaths of several civilians. She also convinced Tony to create the “peace keeping program” using Loki’s staff, effectively kick starting the “Age of Ultron”.
If she wasn’t Vision’s girlfriend, Wanda would probably be spending infinity war rotting in a cell where she belongs.
Another case of Didn't Earn It! Bucky was ripped for muh diversity.
It's obvious that the intention all along had been for Bucky to take over for Cap ever since he was introduced in Winter Soldier, but then by the time they got to the end of Phase 3 it seems like the activists at Disney/Marvel had gained more influence and wanted a black Captain America. Sam isn't even superhuman. He's just an ordinary dude. The only thing remarkable about him was that he was one of the few pilots trained to use the experimental wing gear. Bucky at least was actually given a variant of the super-soldier serum, and canonically was made Steve's successor in the comics. There was literally no other reason for Sam to be made the new Captain America other than "social justice".
My issue with Sam being Captain America is the fact that he's a normal dude, no superpowers, just a dude with some wings. For Falcon, it worked, but this is Captain America, I mean seriously.
This made me realize why I've started reading books as my primary form of entertainment over time. It's the purest form of art. It's not filtered through so many layers of oversight like movies and TV.
I think thats what makes youtube so popular as well. All it is is the creator, the audience and the platform. The barrier of entry is far easier with youtube so you get more oversight. A 15min video is easier to consume and critique than a 500 page book. I love youtube and books. I really enjoyed this video. That thought occurred to me ahout halfway in. 🙂
It would be a board move if they turned Captain America into a hydra agent, just like in the Secret Empire.
Close your eyes, what do you see?
A Time to Morb
There’s also the case of in the first Dr. Strange movie where he was literally willing to be killed for an eternity over and over again to save humanity.
Bucky could have been the Wolverine of the MCU and given them an amazing trilogy of anti-hero badassery. Marvel sht the bed after Infinity War.
The ppl making this knows what they are doing and LOVE the fact that ppl are annoyed...
They literally get paid to sht on IPs.
When you can’t get attention for making something good, negative attention is still attention.
@MyShiroyuki These people relish in fucking up properties. I've seen their tweets and it's like psychopathic. They see these legacy characters and think "how can I subvert everything they stand for to be a clever post modernist writer" but because they aren't intelligent they just ruin it and laugh at people who are mad. It's childish and petty.
Damn I forgot scarlet was keeping Lois Griffin hostage lol
My biggest problem with falcon taken over for Captain America is well they haven't given him the super soldier serum yet so giving him the shield is completely useless cuz well he can't use it the way cap did He's not strong enough but this is half-assed marvel s*** so it doesn't take super strength to use cap shield apparently
This happened in the comics as well and is confirmed to be "Canonically Stupid".
Falcon and winter soldier was the biggest disappointment for me.
They ruined Zemo i couldn't stand his cringe dance scene
Captain America 4 with the Hulk's villain, without the Hulk in it .... sounds like a mess.
For me Bucky is not just his friend, he is his brother.
Exactly👍🏾
It really IS weird how modern writers continue to identify and sympathize with the villains, while demonizing the heroes, in every single morality tale that they can get their hands on.
I noped out in the first episode when freaking FALCON couldn't get a loan because racism
I’m confused as to why he would NEED a loan. He’s an Avenger. According to their own movies a book by Ant Man of all people sold well. There is no way he wouldn’t have gotten offers to be a spokesman, book deals, interviews, speeches. He should have been SWIMMING in money.
@@John-fk2ky no mention that he friend with the CEO of Stark Industries and the King of Wakanda, two of the richests if not the richest persons in the world
@@John-fk2ky I know, I was like, "aren't they paying you!" lol
10:29 Don't forget about "Dormamu I've come to bargain" x1000 or so.
Cap giving Falcon his shield is Even Worse than the scenario that your building up.
Unless I am completely forgetting things... just looked it up and apparently any conversations Bucky had with Cap are off screen, but the actor says Bucky and he would have talked.
Their reltionship is so important to them both you would think it would be worth a 20 sec talk. Bucky saying "You've made the right choices" with a smile as they say goodbye even.
The boss friend doesn't even bring you both into his office he just hands everything over to the new guy when you are getting groceries. Then he peaces out to an alternate dimension.
I can completely see and understand Bucky not wanting the mantle of the shield. He's lived an extremely traumatic life and deals with a lot of guilt over all the brainwashed actions.
He just wants to be a farmer somewhere and be at peace. But I could also see taking on the shield being a great way to help him finish his healing process and feels he can redeem himself.
Knowing you shouldn't be guilty for things not in your control and actually doing it are completely different beasts.
Sam doesn't have the Cap super powers. Bucky does.
Sam has been in the military and helps vets (i think). They would have been a perfect duo to help each other work through everything. In a good well written show.
Falcon is still great and cool as Falcon. He has his own super hero identity and manages that well. He doesn't need a new identity that doesn't match his abilities. Bucky needs a fresh start on life.
They could have built Falcon up to be on par with Bucky Cap as far as screen time and importance.
Sorry. I'll let you continue. Didn't realize I was so irritated by all that. I've got ice cream melting in the car. 😊
The political messaging point reminds me of some5hing I experience in my own life regarding media. I am bisexual and been with my husband since 2012, so not exactly homophobic, but I can't help but notice all new media is just filled with LGBT and it takes me out of it. Me and my husband roll our eyes when we see "queers" be represented in media. So as you can imagine our eyes are pretty tired. Lol
What really pissed me off about falcon and the winter soldier show was that it didn't understand captain America. Cap was a symbol that both inspired people and did his best to uphold the values and virtues he himself believed in. The show incongruently thought that just because cap wears the stars and stripes that he is pro America everything. which is the most shallow and illiterate read on the character you can get. There are multiple stories of how cap doesn't even listen to the government because they violate the very ideals he embodies. Remember the comic book, Civil war? you know who was leader of the faction that opposed the government? I'll give you a hint, its Steve rogers. Remember how cap distrusted shield because they were using the cosmic cube to make super weapons? Or how about he went on the run from the government in this very same universe, because his views on the accords. Cap doesn't like bullies and is willing to stand up to them even if they are his own government. consequently if cap is going to give his shield and the legacy with it to someone, they should be someone who share his views or at least someone he believes has his views. The fact that falcon just gave up the shield to a place the government can easily get access to at the first opportunity already proves he was unworthy of it. Afterall, he of all people should know that even if he doesn't think he should have the shield, that cap wouldn't give it to someone who would just use it to bully the little guys around. Cap leads by example, meanwhile falcon doesn't do anything like that in the show. And it pisses me off, because falcon before phase 4 most certainly would have been more worthy of the shield.
Im like halfway through your vid, so i might repeat what you've said but there was a "situation" on set where Mackie got angry, really pissed at the director, yelling at him "where is script?", as in, they were making random scenes that might be usefull. What does that mean? That there's either massive overhaul of script, or their director is a corporate-hire cretin... or both.
This will bomb so hard i wouldn't be surprised it will break career-spines of actors in it. There's only "so much" till audience will grow to dislike an actor for character he or she is playing.
Giving the shield to Falcon felt like an ESG decision, which made it immediately immersion-breaking
Why would they watch Captain America 4, without Captain America in it.
There is nothing wrong with having social commentary on the things that are going on in society. The writers just don't hide it in great storytelling first like they used to.
Was watching up until the clip of Falcon carrying the dead terrorist popped up, then I got an ad, "If you've been in a car accident...". Beautiful.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier was so annoying… especially during moments like:
Falcon: “You gotta do better Senator!”
Senator: “Look I get it, but you have no idea how complicated this situation is.”
Falcon: “You know what you’re right.”
*Literally admitted he’s right, so why didn’t he just shut up?* 💀💀
Sam, Bucky, & Walker all carried the shield for a very short time in the comics, but none of them worked & sales would drop…then they would bring back Steve.
"No female characters deserve any accountability no matter what kinds of things they'd done so long as their feelings were hurt at the time they did it and they were emotional and that's why they committed crime and it's completely okay." -- Modern women-only writing rooms routinely produce this shlock. You, as a woman, realizing this, shows that this doesn't have to be the case, but honestly? It's just way too common.
not to mention they dont need the hero's journey like tony stark or thor went through.. they are born ready like ms marvel
It's an absolute miracle they pulled off a cinematic Captain America in the 21st century to begin with. He was always a leftover from the 1940s that made no sense past WWII, but Marvel insisted on reviving him and keeping him around. But I've got to admit that they pulled the trick off with Chris Evans and all the movies. They even made him look cool and relatable for nerds at the same time.
You thought Disney would choose the white guy? 😅
OMG boo fucking hoo bro😂
@@themercwiththemouth1695 did you even watch the video? 🤔
@@DarioDarrowwe dont base our opinions on every video we see 💀
@@Oncewasacco ok, you never listend to what she was saying either 🤦♂
Remember when Dr. Strange got himself killed over and over and over again, likely in a ton of very painful ways, just to get Dormamu off the planet?
But he's just a man, he'll never understand what it's like for a woman to lose children who never really existed, lol.
Meh. Mackie is mediocre as shit. He completely fucked up season 2 of Altered Carbon and killed the show. Since they failed to get Kinnaman for a second season and if they wanted to go with a black dude, they needed someone who at least came close to going toe to toe with someone like Samuel Jackson to maintain the intensity of the character. But instead we got Dollar General Denzel Washington.
Ive seen people leve comment along the line of "a victim cant be evil, and an evil person cant be a victim" A bunch of idiot last airbender fans say that about Azula. They think she cant be at fault or isnt evil because she was a victim of her father.
I can name several directors who put more effort into the message of the film than the actual movie itself. I mean aren’t movies made to escape from reality and not being reminded of reality at times ?
I know most people will not say the quiet out loud but the only reason the Shield was given to the Falcon was because he was black Marvel has for many years before the movies been obsessed in the comics to gender and racewap every white superhero in the Marvel Universe.
The worst thing is I was looking forward to see a falcon movie, but sadly Disney and Marvel Studios decided to reduce him to a hand me down, racewap version of Captain America, taking away our chance of enjoying a great superhero that happened to be black, honestly they had a good thing by having the Falcon but this is yet again and agenda they tried to push.
"Happened to be"
Lol, such a loaded buzzphrase.
@@MagcargoMan
What is so loaded about that phrase?
If a character is written well and feels natural within their current role then it doesn't matter the content of their appearance.
I love underworld not because it's a woman that place it as the main protagonist but because she was well written and fit within the narrative and Environment of the story.
And I don't like damsel not because she is a woman but because the characters actions doesn't fit within the narrative and the environment of the story.
Focus on making characters that fits within the narrative and Environment of the story as the first priority and don't make a checklist on race and gender as a main focus before the story itself.
Is this helping instead of a "loaded buzzphrase"?
@@jsb1100 It's a buzzphrase because people like you use it to pretend any non-woke character you like never had any purpose-driven or conscious choice with their creation. Yeah, I'm sure that the first ever black superhero in mainstream comics, who debuted during the Civil Rights era, just happened to accidentally be black, by coincidence.
@@MagcargoMan
And there you go conflating what I'm talking about to all the way back in the... civil rights era?...
What most people here are talking about is what is spin occurring within the last 10 years.
But I know it's going to be hard to have a discussion with someone when they use the phrase "people like you" so I'm just going to leave it at that.
You don't hear us having a hissy fit when it comes to blade, and as I said before I like the falcon and I feel like it did him dirty that he now needs to remove that label to be a hand me down of Captain America.
But again you did tell me "I am one of those people" so I know this message is not going to reach you.
Happy Easter
@@jsb1100 Wow, you are incredibly disingenuous. First you say Falcon "just happens" to be a black character, and then you act like when he was created is irrelevant to the character somehow. What is your logic, that he happens to be black only if you pretend he didn't exist outside of the MCU?
I have no idea what you were watching during the Infinity Saga but Falcon was more worthy of the mantle of Captain America. Bucky because he is a Super Soldier on par with Steve makes him more capable of welding the shield. Barnes got a redemption arc but Falcon earned the mantle because he never needed one. He had Cap’s back in going against Hydra/SHIELD. Had his back in capturing and saving Bucky against the world governments. Took Cap’s side in the Sokovia Accords. Risked his freedom when he tried to save Rhodes. None of which he was obligated to do.
Honestly, the Marvel Comics and MCU should have left Sam as Falcon. Always seemed like a demotion and that he was getting Steve’s sloppy seconds. How do you compete with Steve Roger’s.
How did she put things right? People who were so traumatized that they begged her to kill them were just suddenly OK? How many had permanent psychological damage, committed suicide, had their lives ruined?
The Falcon show, and Wanda, are sadly classic examples of what Hollywood in general has degraded to. They don't have _WRITERS_ writing these shows, they have _POLITICAL ACTIVISTS_ writing them, and it is VERY evident, in EVERYTHING coming out of all branches of Hollywood or the movie industry as a whole, and to some extent, the games industry. It already infected the comics industry years earlier.
Sadly, that whole "Defend the terrorist" mentality is something that is very real. Here in england if someone breaks into YOUR home and is injured in the process, YOU are held accountable. The inmates are _already_ running the Asylums, in both the US and UK. Also, here in the UK, you can apparently get up to 10 years for "Hate speech" which can be _anything_ as simple as having a difference of opinion.
woke people.. be clear
Agree, politics has a place in movies, but like you said, it needs to be done well, handled respectfully, and subtly
Godzilla, the original one, is a perfect example of how you do it right.
Done well means it maps onto reality but the problem is that their politics don't. You can't politically justify girlboss nonsense because the real world isn't full of men who are either evil or incompetent and women who are ultra competent but don't realize the Patriarchy is holding them back. There isn't a good way to implement an absurdist take on critiquing real life the audience can smaell The BS for what it is. They can't right good people because the writters are themselves not good people.
yeah. I hated Falcon and Winter Soldier. With accepting evil. Like Wanda does. Hated that show. Ppl are excusing her evil. Makes you wonder who is in control of hollywood and this realm. Also Mackey and Stan don't have any chemistry. Like they had with Evans
In this upside-down DEI clown world, Bucky didn't have the right "complexion" to be the new Captain America!
Or...Sam has BEEN captain America in the comics....
@@bryfunkenstein From what I know, he wasn't a very good captain america in the comics either. Hardly anyone ever talks about his time wearing the mantle, and Steve still is effectively considered the one and only Captain America.
@@bryfunkenstein bucky was made capt america before falcon in comic
@@bryfunkenstein He just said that
@bryfunkenstein - Bucky was Captain America directly after Steve in the comics! And even when Sam was Captain America, he sucked then too!
"You have to do better, Disney!"
I hate that Sam can physically *use* the shield the same way that Steve used it. I always assumed that Steve's super strength allowed him to throw the shield the way he did. In my opinion it should be too heavy for a normal human to throw around like a weapon.
Sam shouldn’t be able to use the shield correctly, in the comics, after Cap’s “death”, Stark and Fury first ask Clint to wield the shield due to his skill with projectiles, aiming etc..then Barnes is asked, and becomes Cap for a while and it’s only much later that Steve “officially” names Sam as his successor.
But Vegeta can get a whole redemption arc and he’s destroyed whole planets? 🤷🏾♂️
Captain America was a super soldier regardless of his humanity and goody-two-shoes behavior, why give the title to some who is not a super soldier? Never understood that, especially when the serium is still around.
I never thought about it that way. great take. But I would have trusted Bucky most of all to be the one to "Honor" his friend Steve Rogers.