Absolutely those 50' rolls of 1" & 3/4" copper was damaged. See what they looked like in bails!😅 Guessing some plumbers, city utilities are missing locks on the Van's & garages..
Im confused by the “it looks damaged” comments. If there is a part that has damaged its very easy to cut it out and install a coupling. No one ever throws it out because its bent in a spot ot two.
Oh gosh, if I was stealing new copper pipe rolls, I would never in hundred years think of beating it up a little bit so IT IS THEN DAMAGED. thank goodness the thieves will never think of that.
How interesting, we chuck it in the recycling bin and know nothing of what happens next, so thank you for showing us the other side of the recycling bin,
Scrap yards are very protective of who they buy their scrap from , especially the high dollar copper . They get your ID, drivers license number , picture and vehicle license number every time you go across their scales . That trailer load is worth a lot of money . Too bad it's not mine .
I Drive a rubbish truck for a living and the amount of scrap metal I pull out of the trash on a daily basis is insane it help me pay for my Dodge Challenger. My boss just bought a scrap yard and now I sell it to him.
You won’t believe what contractors will bring in after building big plants. My friend owned a scrap yard and he said one company brought in thousands of pieces of unused rebar and conduit to get scrap prices. They were left over from building a huge chicken processing plant. So he paid pennies on the dollar for all of it. So just just because ppl scrap brand new stuff it doesn’t mean it’s stolen
You would think culling through the stock you could bundle decent random lengths of pipe (not tube) and retail it to the trade for higher than scrap prices.
No tradesman worth their salt would risk putting their name on a project using materials that didn't undergo quality control by an official retailer. A lot of this looks like soft drawn ACR which is used for refrigerants and doing anything neglectful that may cause a leak of refrigerant is a fine in the tens of thousands.
I agree with some other commenters here. Likely stolen when there's large partial rolls of new copper tubing. Probably taken from job sites. My neighbor had to bring his camper to sleep in when him n wife was having their house built. People were stealing rolls of 12/14-2 romex wiring, copper tubing, and fittings
Wondering why you wouldn't consider running that copper tube through a metal shredder before packaging for transport? The bails would be denser, cutting down on trucking costs (Although, trucks can only carry so much weight...) Would the mill not pay more as it is smelter ready?
@@tomrogers9467sometimes you get quantity surveyors ( guesses )who have over ordered on large contracts ( housing estates ,flats offices ) no one know what the correct amounts are required and consequently the surplus gets scrapped with no one being accountable but someone getting the financial benefit when it comes round to the end of the build, sometimes collaboration is involved but never detected…..
I hope your company does not buy copper stolen from construction sites. Some of that copper did not appear to be scrap. There is a lot of metal thievery in America. Needs to be a law requiring sellers to provide ID to sell copper and the form of payment be a mailed check to the seller to deter the thieves. In fact their should be a law requiring metal scrap yards to not accept copper from people not in the electrical, plumbing or refrigeration trades and that goes for cat converters, refrigeration equipment etc.
20+ years ago, it went as follows. Bare bright, #1, refinery #1, and #2. Don't know how it grades out now. With over 2 decades as a warehouse manager, I've baled enough of that stuff, anong other things, to make a sky scraper. It's not somoething I'll miss anytime soon. Our primary mill was Cerro, but sent a lot to Concorde trading as well. Now with Nucor owning most of the yards and mills, it's a whole different ballgame....
In CA (and maybe elsewhere), anything made from copper or brass that is used for potable water has to be "lead free". Wonder if that new tubing isn't pure enough? See "California Department of Toxic Substances Control (DTSC): Requirements for Low Lead Plumbing Products in California"
At AU$12 a kilo it's well worth collecting. 2 years and so far I've collected about $3500 worth- not cashing in till I get a tonne so I'll have a decent payday of $10- 12k.
Why would anyone need to "recycle" brand new copper tube still rooled up? This makes no senses at all. 99% chance every inch of that is stolen. Why would anyone sell new copper for scrap? Anyone in the trades would buy or use that. I would tell anyone scrapping full rolls of shiny brand new material to return it from where they got it. You are buying stolen material if you ask me. You have to know that.
Makes me think how many trades hire people knowing they have no documentation or legal right to work or live in the US. Yet somehow that gets a free pass. We get what we tolerate.
No reputable contractor would but the end of a roll or short pieces of pipe and install them as new. Also Could have been out of spec from a manufacturer or leftover pieces from some sort of factory, think bigger picture than a tweaker with a pick up truck.
@@trackjosh I'm not talking about shorts. I'm talking about those 50' + and full new rolls of copper tube going on the conveyor. They don't even cut it up to look like scrap. Full uncut and shiny brand new rolls. Defective out of spec material would probably not be scrapped by the manufacturer for a loss. They would recycle it themselves. That is not scrap material.
Scrappers are so slow when it comes to money I understand they want to make $2 a pound fast I would have gave you $8 a pound for that coil boys put it up for sale before you scrap it I'm telling you
There is scrap inherent in metal processing. This could have come from a mill or a repackager. Or even from an industrial end user. The material could be out of spec. Any number of reasons that do not involve meth heads
As a plumber i can tell you none of the copper i bring to scrap yards looks like that. That stuff was definitively stolen
I believe he said the tubing was damaged. It looked dented and bent.
Did you have your volume up?
Absolutely those 50' rolls of 1" & 3/4" copper was damaged. See what they looked like in bails!😅
Guessing some plumbers, city utilities are missing locks on the Van's & garages..
Im confused by the “it looks damaged” comments. If there is a part that has damaged its very easy to cut it out and install a coupling. No one ever throws it out because its bent in a spot ot two.
Oh gosh, if I was stealing new copper pipe rolls, I would never in hundred years think of beating it up a little bit so IT IS THEN DAMAGED.
thank goodness the thieves will never think of that.
It would be cool if you could show the copper being processed at the mill
You’ll never take me alive copper. 😁
That's about enough outta you 😁
Come and get me copper!
How interesting, we chuck it in the recycling bin and know nothing of what happens next, so thank you for showing us the other side of the recycling bin,
I’ve been a homebuilder for forty years. I did my own plumbing and electrical. I never scrapped anything that looked like that.
If I took that lot round to a local scrap yard in Sheffield the police would be round in
seconds. 😢
That's a lot of nice copper.
Nicely presented video. Was no stupid music that covered up the actual sounds of the machinery, processes, etc. Easily got my thumbs up!
Scrap yards are very protective of who they buy their scrap from , especially the high dollar copper . They get your ID, drivers license number , picture and vehicle license number every time you go across their scales . That trailer load is worth a lot of money . Too bad it's not mine .
In Australia you need an ABN number to sell more than a small amount of Copper or Alloy to a scrap yard, but stuff still gets stolen.
Not to mention Cameras everywhere
Pawn shops take your I’d too.
Both places buy from criminals on the regular
I Drive a rubbish truck for a living and the amount of scrap metal I pull out of the trash on a daily basis is insane it help me pay for my Dodge Challenger. My boss just bought a scrap yard and now I sell it to him.
That's some hot ass copper right there if you know what I mean.
3500lbs?! That’s more scrap copper than I’ve collected my whole life
I bet you're closer than you think you always have some good finds and I look forward to seeing them for motivation 💯
Do your workers not get hearing protection provided? Wow that would be so loud
My cousins owns 3 yards.Whan we get copper thats new.The customer usually says it was in their grandfathers barn.Honest god I am not making this up.
Pretty cool operation you’ve got there, interesting line of work, thanks for sharing!
95% of that copper is stolen.
All those coils looks a bit suspect.🤔😱
my first thought exactly
You won’t believe what contractors will bring in after building big plants. My friend owned a scrap yard and he said one company brought in thousands of pieces of unused rebar and conduit to get scrap prices. They were left over from building a huge chicken processing plant. So he paid pennies on the dollar for all of it. So just just because ppl scrap brand new stuff it doesn’t mean it’s stolen
Bullshit @@KcS-v4f
All the tweakers are drooling at the mouth at the sight of so much copper.
What happens if something gets missed when baling do you get docked great videos keep up the good work
Scrap cost about 2000 bucks; If used on jobs about 75K...
Another great video Michael. 😊
You would think culling through the stock you could bundle decent random lengths of pipe (not tube) and retail it to the trade for higher than scrap prices.
No tradesman worth their salt would risk putting their name on a project using materials that didn't undergo quality control by an official retailer. A lot of this looks like soft drawn ACR which is used for refrigerants and doing anything neglectful that may cause a leak of refrigerant is a fine in the tens of thousands.
@@aidanlynch1694 All such sales are at buyer's risk, you either know what you are looking at or take a pass.
there's no money in catering to the saturday morning plumbers who need 3 feet of tube
@@shaystern2453 I described a bundle, or a lot- you buy it all, not by the piece, this is how other scrapyards do it.
Hi Michael where is your yard located? I work in a scrap yard down in Myrtle Beach always interesting and never a dull day. Stay safe
I agree with some other commenters here. Likely stolen when there's large partial rolls of new copper tubing. Probably taken from job sites.
My neighbor had to bring his camper to sleep in when him n wife was having their house built. People were stealing rolls of 12/14-2 romex wiring, copper tubing, and fittings
Great video , would take me years micro scrapping to get enough copper to make one of those bails
I am sure I read somewhere that copper is quite a special metal, as it is infinitely recyclable? is that correct?
Well it was made in a star so...we can probably get away with a couple passes through the refinery.
that's aluminum
Yes each smelt you lose very little metal because it has such a low melting point
You know how many moonshine stills I could make from just one of those bales😲😲😲
None....it's all bent up.
Note to self....
Take all stolen stuff to Michael in rhe south!!
Thank god I live in the North!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Red gold! Copper!
THAT WAS SOME CLEAAAANN COPPA AND ALOT
it would be interesting to hear your story, how you came to own the scrapyard, how old is it, how many employees do you have, where are you located,
Wondering why you wouldn't consider running that copper tube through a metal shredder before packaging for transport?
The bails would be denser, cutting down on trucking costs (Although, trucks can only carry so much weight...)
Would the mill not pay more as it is smelter ready?
They don’t want it identifiable
They protect their thieves
Great video!! Thanks!!
New copper tubing ,,were you got it i found it 😮
What about insulated copper wires? What grades of insulated copper wires do buy and sell, if you do?
The bales look like the under hood view of a GM car.
You would get much more to market it as it is in odd lots.
How much does a truck load fetch money wise
Its a shame to see the new copper in there
and soon to be new again, in longer more useful lengths
Hello just wondering do you have people show Up with Tote to recycle cans.
And how do you recycle that way
And tell us more about the Coppermill
They be like I’ll give 150 for your bailed copper 😂😂😂 not worth it
Who scraps all of those coils of copper tubing,other than a thief???
A thief
What’s the opinion on homemade copper ingots and brass ingots?
waste of fuel
Looks like a corporate builder finished a development.
A what box?
Those are brand new still full rolls shit was definitely stolen and sold
Someone is ordering more copper than they need and banking on😅
again well put. thanks
🤨Id say 90% of that copper was not “scrap”. Someone is definitely getting ripped off.
Who scraps coils and coils of new tubing????
Copper tubing is soft and easily damaged.
@@tomrogers9467sometimes you get quantity surveyors ( guesses )who have over ordered on large contracts ( housing estates ,flats offices ) no one know what the correct amounts are required and consequently the surplus gets scrapped with no one being accountable but someone getting the financial benefit when it comes round to the end of the build, sometimes collaboration is involved but never detected…..
Some city utilities are buying it and the workers are scrapping it.
Your not police. Mind your own business is one of the best tools in life.
Red Gold.
All that lovely copper, I look at copper like that and all I see is ££££
Clean copper tubing is expensive. There is no way any plumber took that much good tubing to be recycled. A lot of that was stolen.
Just demo’d a house
Tossed the pieces of copper aside
Dropped at scrap yard un-prepared
Got a quick $830
That whole bin was stolen lol. That copper was worth 4 times as much for its intended purpose.
All that new copper would make me very suspicious as to its origin! 🥷🏻🥷🏻🥷🏻
just shut up?
“Damaged” new coils. Ya right!😅
Only thing i can guess is that it was a damaged shipment and is part of an insurance claim. See that pretty often with trucking.
Worked in wholesale plumbing supply business, copper tubing is very soft and easily damaged. Not everyone is a criminal!
A lot is most likely from the manufacture. Rejected by quality control
I hope your company does not buy copper stolen from construction sites. Some of that copper did not appear to be scrap. There is a lot of metal thievery in America. Needs to be a law requiring sellers to provide ID to sell copper and the form of payment be a mailed check to the seller to deter the thieves. In fact their should be a law requiring metal scrap yards to not accept copper from people not in the electrical, plumbing or refrigeration trades and that goes for cat converters, refrigeration equipment etc.
How much is stolen?
99.5%
Great video new subscriber
Cool video
Pretty cool man
any smart copper thief would try and steal it again
I guess a asterisk goes besides someone's name when their Copper load is contaminated with cheaper metal.
beaucoup de rouleaux de cuivre neuf ou a t il etait trouver ou plutôt volé
You can’t think that isn’t partially stollen
Thanks for the exciting commentary telling us exactly what is totally obvious by watching it .
POINTLESS capitals ARE FUN too.
Bailed early & blocked
What they don't tell you id that almost all the copper is stolen.
Interesting. Thanks 👍👍
Brand new rolls yep. Definitely scrap.
Let me show you what happens to your copper after its stolen. Fixed your title
Why are the lads not wearing protective gloves and eye shields , does anybody know they should to protect themselves
If my copper has green on it they consider it #2
I don’t understand the purpose of the belt. Why don’t you you just dump directly into the baler?
The belt is there so if something gets mixed in that is not copper they can stop the belt and pull it out.
No tarnish
All I heard was Bailer??What’s a Bailer??😂
No company scraps coils of copper.......
,,,,,,,,
What what happens to all the all the brass that we sell for to be recycled what happened how you sort it out
You missed a piece
20+ years ago, it went as follows. Bare bright, #1, refinery #1, and #2. Don't know how it grades out now. With over 2 decades as a warehouse manager, I've baled enough of that stuff, anong other things, to make a sky scraper. It's not somoething I'll miss anytime soon. Our primary mill was Cerro, but sent a lot to Concorde trading as well. Now with Nucor owning most of the yards and mills, it's a whole different ballgame....
recycle perfectly good stolen copper pipe turn it back into perfectly good copper pipe than get it back again to recycle
In CA (and maybe elsewhere), anything made from copper or brass that is used for potable water has to be "lead free". Wonder if that new tubing isn't pure enough? See "California Department of Toxic Substances Control (DTSC): Requirements for Low Lead Plumbing Products in California"
Is it going to China?
Nu Coppa TOOBING
huh-huh...he said "gaylord", huh-huh...huh-huh...
INTERESTING
He sheriff why didn't you contact the law its obvious it's been stolen and turn the cap around propper 😂
Thieves are now targeting EV charging stations...
Should say your stolen copper
We had to separate number 1 and 2 from 1 insulated 2 insulated and bare bright. A shredder is wonderful but Very cost prohibited
I see a lot of burden copper in your number 2
If copper was like $20 a lb it probably be worth collecting
At AU$12 a kilo it's well worth collecting. 2 years and so far I've collected about $3500 worth- not cashing in till I get a tonne so I'll have a decent payday of $10- 12k.
Ummm.....thats stolen copper
👍
Why would anyone need to "recycle" brand new copper tube still rooled up?
This makes no senses at all. 99% chance every inch of that is stolen.
Why would anyone sell new copper for scrap? Anyone in the trades would buy or use that.
I would tell anyone scrapping full rolls of shiny brand new material to return it from where they got it.
You are buying stolen material if you ask me. You have to know that.
Makes me think how many trades hire people knowing they have no documentation or legal right to work or live in the US. Yet somehow that gets a free pass. We get what we tolerate.
No reputable contractor would but the end of a roll or short pieces of pipe and install them as new. Also Could have been out of spec from a manufacturer or leftover pieces from some sort of factory, think bigger picture than a tweaker with a pick up truck.
@@trackjosh out of spec? Why would it not go back to the manufacturer instead of a scraper?
@@trackjosh I'm not talking about shorts. I'm talking about those 50' + and full new rolls of copper tube going on the conveyor. They don't even cut it up to look like scrap. Full uncut and shiny brand new rolls. Defective out of spec material would probably not be scrapped by the manufacturer for a loss. They would recycle it themselves. That is not scrap material.
@@trackjoshMany people could use even short pieces for various things!
I no the job
Scrappers are so slow when it comes to money I understand they want to make $2 a pound fast I would have gave you $8 a pound for that coil boys put it up for sale before you scrap it I'm telling you
lotta stolen copper in there !!!!!
There is scrap inherent in metal processing. This could have come from a mill or a repackager. Or even from an industrial end user. The material could be out of spec. Any number of reasons that do not involve meth heads
Gaylord. Tee hee.