Maybe they'll just fold Giger back into it. At this point BATB doesn't matter, its a joke anyways, if they want max views they could do that. I mean, how many games has Mike Mo played?
There were a lot of people who got to see what both of them could do and were new. They both got their fair due and Jonny came out a winner because he looked legit compared to other UA-camrs because he and Jamie looked like they really knew what they were doing.
Dude, literally after these skate events transpire I find myself thinking damn I can't wait to hear from dumb data on this one! And you always deliver, your content is getting better and better! Keep it up dude 👏 👌
First Giger loses the roshambo then he missed 3 tricks he normally do first try the ollie late flip, the hardflip and the biggerspin. To finish he wasn't aggressive enough and was matched poorly against an excellent Jamie Griffin. I'm sad for him and can't wait to watch him next year...
They also took away all primo/casper/truckstand stuff specifically to hamstring Giger. No kidding Johnny is gonna lose when you take 1/3 of his tricks. The fact I dont see more people talking about it is astounding. The Malto manual rule came into effect after a match, not before a match because you know he's going to throw these tricks no one else can do. Like in what way is a primo/casper or truckstand against Berrics rules? Its not. So they had to make a rule specifically for those things because they know Giger is the only one who has them.
He played a decent game despite the rule change but its very clear the rule was made to benefit Jamie Griffin and hamper Johnny Giger. Its like a year into this tournament and they change the rules on the most anticipated match up? Like imagine being Johnny Giger practicing for a year and then the day of the match they spring a rule change on you. Big shock he lost. Reminds me of the Braille Johnny Giger vs Andy Anderson video. Seems like Giger always get the short end of the rule change.
Might as well call it "Shuvs and Flips only" instead of Berrics rules since those are apparently the only trick variations allowed. Its not even flatground stuff anymore when you take out truckstands, casper and primo since those are definitely all flatground tricks categorically.
A fully packed weekend for us. Vincent got my Nº1 spot at Tampa, but I was hyped at the same level when Jamie finished his run so whatever, just watching that place going nuts when skaters lands their stuff is worth the watch, and that's what is all about.
I just don't get why he didn't go for some double flips like in the other match. For me it seems that Jonny didn't want to win actually... He could've played it much more dirty.
Hey @dumb data here's a stat i was wondering about, what are some tricks that have been set once and made once ever in the berrics and then not seen again?
I figured jamie won the berrics match after watching jonny win the game of skate on his channel. Also, I figured Jamie wouldnt land the pressure varial during the berrics match after seeing jonny look suprised when jamie lands it during his channels match Regardless, I was actually excited to watch this match and didnt look at the comments to spoil anything beforehand and it didnt disappoint.
the true winner of Tampa pro day 1 was MethMan (Jaime Matau), Ngl that darkslide on the kinks Andy sadly was way after the best trick contest, atleast he won a Ps5 and 500 bucks
1. Vincent Milou won Tampa Pro 2. BATB: Giger v. Griffin - the video was only 8 minutes but they didn’t waste time reading the rules. It was fun watching different tricks 3. Jamie Mateu, during Tampa Pro, was annoying to watch. 4. Kairi Netsuke got it next year
Maybe annoying for a fellow skater or the organizers but as a fan I thought that shit was hype/funny af. It's the kinda disrupter a competition needs so skating doesn't take itself too seriously and make it seem like a bunch of jocks.
@@WendyOryen Who the fuck cares. Its not ring around the rosey, its fucking skatebaording. Keep skateboarding hesh, fuck etiquette. If you're really out of line, other skaters will make sure to humble you. He didn't get any smoke from other skaters so it's not a big deal. He brought a lot of excitement, which is so much more rad than any competitive aspect of the event.
Nobody beating Griffen. I dont think he was really trying too hard on the warm up game. But who tf is lamding the forward double flips and 180 front foot impossible like johnny tho. It was just amazing to see someone landing these kind of tricks on defense. Incredible. Next time DO NOT put them together first rd, they will make it to eachother eventually lol great battle 💯
@@Dregs_____ What type of skaters have you been hanging around with? Skating and gaming culture go hand in hand. Unless you're the tiktok type, then your comment makes sense GaMiNg iS fOr NeRdS
The people on the course are VIP and most likely close friends or family to some of the pros not just random crowd fans and yeah Tampa isn't taken SLS serious and we all like it that way! It's one of the only skate comps with OG Pros in it and it's basically a giant party every night so the Pros are hungover and not taking things to serious anyways. Love how you guys think the commentators are just randomly picking on someone for their clothing when the truth is they're all very close friends that Pro might even be on the Tampa party team....
True thing .. Tampa pro is waay more entertaining than sls. Practicing between every run is how comps were before sls anyway. Like that you see much more hard tricks going down
I was cheering for giger, but now that he unfortunately lost i actually really want griffin to take the w, he is insane at skateboarding and has some tricks most icons and pros never landed before, consistently
I just don't understand why Jonny didn't make the tricks, which he has beaten with on the other battle before. Jamie actually tried pretty much the same things in both battles.. but with these tricks he could win there, yeah
Although I'm not Mallorquin I root for him everywhere he goes. In a way I feel he represents me as well. He is a true skater and a gnarly dude. Btw he must have a hell of a grandmother.
100%. I love foy but it’s quickly getting old for me to watch him do nothing but grinds and get super high scores. Like we all know that’s what he’s going to do. No flip tricks, no nothing
@@allstopblue5717 agreed that that should’ve been Vincent in 1st. What’s annoying is watching these pros do the same basic tricks they’re known for. “Oh look Jamie did a front krook😴”
Hey bro. Love the videos. I'd be interested in hearing the highest percentage of turns on defense in a win. Has someone ever defended 90% of turns in a long battle but then thrown down five enders to win a game with little time spent on offense?
Tinfoil hat: giger let Jamie win after an eventful and entertaining game for the fans because he is antivax. His pride wouldn't take a humongous hit because of the winning game on his channel and his desire to send a fellow overpowered tech skater to the big show Edit: the point of bringing up the antivax label is that not being vaccinated hinders any travel. Just for clarity. Jamie clearly went to Jonny since he can't go anywhere else
For me fake bigger flips are as consistent if not more so than a standard tre flip. I think it's because I have to flick the board with full effort and it never under rotates. So I usually land it first try.
So basically they picked who won? Giger won on his channel they easily could have said that was the "official" game. It was obviously the same day. Giger just changed his shirt. Personally I don't care I'm just pointing out what probably went down.
i think jamie is a much fiercer competitor than jonny. as amazing as jonny is, he's too kind of a person and just doesn't seem willing to go for the throat. i'm not saying he's necessarily better than jamie, just that his heart gets in his way in competition. so i'm happy to see jamie go on, i think he's mentally ready to eviscerate anyone in his path after this
What kind of take is that? He lost because he's too nice? You can't be serious, you make it sound like he wants to lose. He is competitive as hell as shown when he cracked the shits during the braille skate tourney
Jamie's run flowed the best as I watched, if a run is just about whether you flipped in, then I don't know if someone like Dennis busenitz could ever win again. Skating isn't gymnastics, how the run looked, and flowed also matters. Don't want Tampa becoming street league.
Tampa is a big fun jam session where pros are just trying to have fun and show off some great skating so why does it matter that Ilardi stepped off his board once? It's all punk and crazy except for strict rules about putting a foot down. Not that it matters but it's just funny to me that the judges are so serious about that.
Dumb-Data, bro you could be a serious-lawyer or investigative-journalist and make a huge positive-change with the exposing- of the police-corruption with your research and video-editing…. Genius-Stuff….
Conspiracy wise, it's better for batb that Jamie won as he can get to America given that all restrictions are gone in the UK. I'm not a conspiracy guy, but Jonny wins the first game comfortably then loses the second? Hmmm 🤔
Jonny is in Switzerland. Jonny seemed to have more nerves in the BATB match. It was a grate match and has a good chance of being the best match of this season.
Johnny vs Jamie was the worst thing to happen in this BATB. having THIS as round1 makes everybody the loser. this should have been semifinals. look at the rest of the "influencer" bracket where there were people who could hardly kickflip.
I had Joey Brezinski's pressure varial flip in BATB3 v Chris Cole recorded as a pressure flip. My b, data is updated
Thank GOD. I just couldn’t sleep. Thanks DD ;)
giger called it a toe flip, but whatsoever pressure varial flip is understandable, so actually a pressure flip could be called a pressure inward heel.
@@kjdacod no sir. No such thing as a pressure heelflip or pressure hardflip. Its a pressure flip and frontside pressure flip
@@woodfordmetcalfe9435 well you’re wrong because what you’re referring to as a pressure flip and a pressure heelflip are two different things
@@jamesbest9806 pressure inward heel im talking about
So happy Jamie is moving forward, but it sucks that it means Johnny can't. Both deserve to go further in the mainstream
@@brentmarks_diy ok. Understandably..
Maybe they'll just fold Giger back into it. At this point BATB doesn't matter, its a joke anyways, if they want max views they could do that. I mean, how many games has Mike Mo played?
There were a lot of people who got to see what both of them could do and were new. They both got their fair due and Jonny came out a winner because he looked legit compared to other UA-camrs because he and Jamie looked like they really knew what they were doing.
Dude, literally after these skate events transpire I find myself thinking damn I can't wait to hear from dumb data on this one! And you always deliver, your content is getting better and better! Keep it up dude 👏 👌
True man, I'm loving this channel.
Alex Middler's fart joke timing is comedy gold
😂😂
I saw this comment before I started the video and still wasn’t expecting such a marvelous feat of brute comedic editing. That was amazing
Then there’s Gifted Hater taking shots at DD for using fart noises in his videos. When properly placed the fart noise is hilarious
I never found farther jokes funny, pretty sophmoric
8:06 Joey bresinski did a toe flip (pressure varial) against Cole in batb3. He also did it switch.
You're right! I had those down as pressure flips and left out the varial, good call out
Gotta love how they still put Jonny Giger next to P-Rod in the bracket tho
First Giger loses the roshambo then he missed 3 tricks he normally do first try the ollie late flip, the hardflip and the biggerspin. To finish he wasn't aggressive enough and was matched poorly against an excellent Jamie Griffin. I'm sad for him and can't wait to watch him next year...
They also took away all primo/casper/truckstand stuff specifically to hamstring Giger.
No kidding Johnny is gonna lose when you take 1/3 of his tricks. The fact I dont see more people talking about it is astounding. The Malto manual rule came into effect after a match, not before a match because you know he's going to throw these tricks no one else can do.
Like in what way is a primo/casper or truckstand against Berrics rules? Its not. So they had to make a rule specifically for those things because they know Giger is the only one who has them.
He played a decent game despite the rule change but its very clear the rule was made to benefit Jamie Griffin and hamper Johnny Giger.
Its like a year into this tournament and they change the rules on the most anticipated match up? Like imagine being Johnny Giger practicing for a year and then the day of the match they spring a rule change on you. Big shock he lost.
Reminds me of the Braille Johnny Giger vs Andy Anderson video. Seems like Giger always get the short end of the rule change.
Might as well call it "Shuvs and Flips only" instead of Berrics rules since those are apparently the only trick variations allowed. Its not even flatground stuff anymore when you take out truckstands, casper and primo since those are definitely all flatground tricks categorically.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow ollie has no shuv or flip bruh
@@JarthenGreenmeadow cope and seethe
So sad for ma Johnny, but hope Jamie takes the whole tournament. And hopefully they will invite Giger again for batb13.
Jamie griffin was in switzerland for a week, really hope they got some more footage to post
These videos are the only thing keeping me going. Peak entertainment
Jaimes a fucking beast. True skateboarder and all around gnar dog fucking love to see it man.
A fully packed weekend for us. Vincent got my Nº1 spot at Tampa, but I was hyped at the same level when Jamie finished his run so whatever, just watching that place going nuts when skaters lands their stuff is worth the watch, and that's what is all about.
Im a big Jonny fanboi. The game made me happy, but the outcome made me sad. Jamie is really good and ill be cheering him on for the win. #jonnyforgoat
I just don't get why he didn't go for some double flips like in the other match. For me it seems that Jonny didn't want to win actually... He could've played it much more dirty.
@@kjdacod one of the last gentelman on earth thats his biggest handicap
@@kjdacod He def should have gave up on the pressure heel and done something else. That was 3 chances at a crazy trick he gave up
Great video as always, but I have to say that the pressure toe flip was also done by Joey Brezinski against Chris Cole on BATB 3.
Hey @dumb data here's a stat i was wondering about, what are some tricks that have been set once and made once ever in the berrics and then not seen again?
I figured jamie won the berrics match after watching jonny win the game of skate on his channel.
Also, I figured Jamie wouldnt land the pressure varial during the berrics match after seeing jonny look suprised when jamie lands it during his channels match
Regardless, I was actually excited to watch this match and didnt look at the comments to spoil anything beforehand and it didnt disappoint.
that game of skate is probably one of the best this season has seen
That fart noise on that missed blunt was hilarious 🤣🤣
Jonny and Jamie's battle was great it delivered on the hype.
the true winner of Tampa pro day 1 was MethMan (Jaime Matau), Ngl that darkslide on the kinks Andy sadly was way after the best trick contest, atleast he won a Ps5 and 500 bucks
Hopefully they filmed a tie breaker game before parting ways
4 nbds!!! My god. It lived up to the hype
Underrated game of skate
1. Vincent Milou won Tampa Pro
2. BATB: Giger v. Griffin - the video was only 8 minutes but they didn’t waste time reading the rules. It was fun watching different tricks
3. Jamie Mateu, during Tampa Pro, was annoying to watch.
4. Kairi Netsuke got it next year
Netsuke made me an instant fan. His runs were beautiful.
@@matthewdrury6443 seriously. if he would've replaced half his tricks with some easy filler grinds or something he may have won
Maybe annoying for a fellow skater or the organizers but as a fan I thought that shit was hype/funny af. It's the kinda disrupter a competition needs so skating doesn't take itself too seriously and make it seem like a bunch of jocks.
@@sealontour nah that dude needs to sit down. He is really good at skating but he wanted too much attention.
@@WendyOryen Who the fuck cares. Its not ring around the rosey, its fucking skatebaording. Keep skateboarding hesh, fuck etiquette. If you're really out of line, other skaters will make sure to humble you. He didn't get any smoke from other skaters so it's not a big deal. He brought a lot of excitement, which is so much more rad than any competitive aspect of the event.
This channel shoud be called Smart data
Facts Bro! 🙌
i think elo score marks season 2 of dumbdata. 😅
this opens up a whole new world for odds and comparisons
Every time someone lands a merlin twist on defense is a surprise 😮
Nobody beating Griffen. I dont think he was really trying too hard on the warm up game. But who tf is lamding the forward double flips and 180 front foot impossible like johnny tho. It was just amazing to see someone landing these kind of tricks on defense. Incredible. Next time DO NOT put them together first rd, they will make it to eachother eventually lol great battle 💯
Jamie is probably the first Tampa winner that didnt flip his board, i didnt believe he won at ALL
We need to get Penguinz0 to watch your videos, He would love this and you'd get some much much much deserved recognition.
No, no, no, no, no. This is skateboarding, not nerdy video game nerd shit
@@Dregs_____ this is literally a channel about statistics
Charlie would fr
@@Dregs_____ What type of skaters have you been hanging around with? Skating and gaming culture go hand in hand. Unless you're the tiktok type, then your comment makes sense GaMiNg iS fOr NeRdS
@@Dregs_____ Uhoh, a gatekeeper skater in the wild here.
The people on the course are VIP and most likely close friends or family to some of the pros not just random crowd fans and yeah Tampa isn't taken SLS serious and we all like it that way! It's one of the only skate comps with OG Pros in it and it's basically a giant party every night so the Pros are hungover and not taking things to serious anyways. Love how you guys think the commentators are just randomly picking on someone for their clothing when the truth is they're all very close friends that Pro might even be on the Tampa party team....
True thing .. Tampa pro is waay more entertaining than sls. Practicing between every run is how comps were before sls anyway. Like that you see much more hard tricks going down
Brilliant video
I was cheering for giger, but now that he unfortunately lost i actually really want griffin to take the w, he is insane at skateboarding and has some tricks most icons and pros never landed before, consistently
I just don't understand why Jonny didn't make the tricks, which he has beaten with on the other battle before. Jamie actually tried pretty much the same things in both battles.. but with these tricks he could win there, yeah
so hyped on this one!
I feel like Tampa am/pro is just a demo of everyone's favourite skateboarders, rather than a competition.
Can't believe there's only 16,000 skate nerds out there.
Giger battle's consistency shows exactly how people like Luan would make short work of Giger OR Jamie
Jaime representing Mallorca is still crazy for us here
That dude was annoying to watch - he kept going and acted like an attention whore
Although I'm not Mallorquin I root for him everywhere he goes. In a way I feel he represents me as well. He is a true skater and a gnarly dude.
Btw he must have a hell of a grandmother.
Idk even know the guy but Vincent should have won idgaf what anyone says hahah lovvee jamie tho, guy still Killed it! Congrats to everyone 👏
100%. I love foy but it’s quickly getting old for me to watch him do nothing but grinds and get super high scores. Like we all know that’s what he’s going to do. No flip tricks, no nothing
@@allstopblue5717 agreed that that should’ve been Vincent in 1st. What’s annoying is watching these pros do the same basic tricks they’re known for. “Oh look Jamie did a front krook😴”
Milou was robbed but nothing new in Tampa..
Opinions are opinons but DD got the ELO Baby. My fkn mmind is blown every video!
They even wrapped their impossible good lol
Dumb data coming through with the goods
i always thought if i was mid run and an announcer started sayin something funny about me id lose it lol and start laughing
I was hoping Jonny would take it he deserves it but Jamie is a beast. I hope they both come back next year.
you deserve so many more subs.
The inward heel on offense was the sketchiest imo but i guess it doesn’t make a difference
Jonny and Jamie are both doper than dope smoke
Hey bro. Love the videos. I'd be interested in hearing the highest percentage of turns on defense in a win. Has someone ever defended 90% of turns in a long battle but then thrown down five enders to win a game with little time spent on offense?
If Mike mo gets 2 games, Johnny should get 2 games.
I agree. Jonny and Jamie should have been the last battle of the influencers assuming they won all matches leading to it
He can try again next year and not lose if he wants 2 games. Mike mo is the first batb champ. Stop playin
technicly there were 3 games between Jonny and Griffin, 1 on each of their personal channels and 1 on the berrics
@@skeven0 can i get a link to jamie's channel game? it isn't on hopking channel
@@humanbean3 my bad its most likely coming to Hopkin, Afaik its not been uploaded yet
Another good one. Thanks.
That was fast!
Tinfoil hat: giger let Jamie win after an eventful and entertaining game for the fans because he is antivax. His pride wouldn't take a humongous hit because of the winning game on his channel and his desire to send a fellow overpowered tech skater to the big show
Edit: the point of bringing up the antivax label is that not being vaccinated hinders any travel. Just for clarity. Jamie clearly went to Jonny since he can't go anywhere else
I had similar thoughts. Solid and entertaining match no matter what tho.
@@Primitive47 also Switzerland was one of the least strick/affected countries, so i can see why he isnt vax
The use of the term anti vax is cringe af.
@@SpenDoc757 found the anti vaxxer
@@SpenDoc757 how else would you call it?
For me fake bigger flips are as consistent if not more so than a standard tre flip. I think it's because I have to flick the board with full effort and it never under rotates. So I usually land it first try.
ehrm the man in the miniature is jamie foy isn't he tho?
It is to bad for Johnny considering Jamie won it all and is probably going to become a superstar skater
Good stuff
Tampa Pro is Tampa Pro...there's nothing like it
Methhh mannnn
Great video!
RIP METH MAN
Actually the forward double was done by both Jamie & Spencer earlier in R2. Time to start quadruple-checking.
Nope I fucked up. My bad.
Giraud gets all the hype, but his countryman Milou is just as good
Great video, nicely done
yet another good video
Good video again sir.
"STEMlord computes"
Since Giger won the practice battle it would be cool to see a tie breaker at the actual berrics
johnny saves a plane ticket to Cali. he's the winner
Thinking about this now, its kinda dumb that the icons and influencers are on the same side of the bracket, imo
Johny is my favorite skater not because he id the best but because I just like him lol
Should really make these two separate videos in future... I had to skip the first half since I haven't watched Tampa yet :P
So basically they picked who won? Giger won on his channel they easily could have said that was the "official" game. It was obviously the same day. Giger just changed his shirt. Personally I don't care I'm just pointing out what probably went down.
i think jamie is a much fiercer competitor than jonny. as amazing as jonny is, he's too kind of a person and just doesn't seem willing to go for the throat. i'm not saying he's necessarily better than jamie, just that his heart gets in his way in competition. so i'm happy to see jamie go on, i think he's mentally ready to eviscerate anyone in his path after this
Man I feel like, with the exception of Chris chann, it's a straight shot for him to go against the idles. Jamie is honestly a different breed
@@georgeburchell296 we'll see how he handles the consistency of some of the icons and pros, if he beats Chris Chan.
What kind of take is that? He lost because he's too nice? You can't be serious, you make it sound like he wants to lose. He is competitive as hell as shown when he cracked the shits during the braille skate tourney
@@neonblack211 lmao chill bro
Honestly I strongly agree. Johnny seemed very nonchalant about the whole game of skate and didn't seem like he was actually trying hard enough.
Noice, fresh, video
Jamie's run flowed the best as I watched, if a run is just about whether you flipped in, then I don't know if someone like Dennis busenitz could ever win again. Skating isn't gymnastics, how the run looked, and flowed also matters. Don't want Tampa becoming street league.
Love the fart! Lol
Go Jaime!
I expect the following matchups to end each bracket: Luan vs Sewa, Cole vs PRod, Holt vs Peterson, Chann vs Griffin
it sucks that jamie and jonny couldnt both move on
BATB should have no prebattles, prebattles might as well just be games.
Tampa is a big fun jam session where pros are just trying to have fun and show off some great skating so why does it matter that Ilardi stepped off his board once? It's all punk and crazy except for strict rules about putting a foot down. Not that it matters but it's just funny to me that the judges are so serious about that.
Dumb data, please make a video of the rise and fall of majer or even just some stats of they’re content please
Meth man was the worst
So fucking lame.
Meh. it was abit entertaining.
@@oopsydaizi3s824 what's meh? You mean mehth
Milou was still robbed. Nice video anyways
Its a Hospital and Not Casper flip
What's up with the thumbnail? You got the wrong Jamie 😅
Griff wins it all. I put 10k on that
Are these numbers real? You have too much time on your hands if so.
damn bro your mic is loud af lmao
Ese jaimeeeeeeeehh
08:07 please tell me how the fuck did you know that this was the only other pressure varial flip??? do you just have this randomly in your mind ?
Dumb-Data, bro you could be a serious-lawyer or investigative-journalist and make a huge positive-change with the exposing- of the police-corruption with your research and video-editing…. Genius-Stuff….
Gutted for Jonny.
Can they ever let a frenchie win a contest in the USA? Judging was very biased to say the least.
GIGER ON CHRIS HANSEN LIST LOL
I get it's a game of skate but both Griffin and giger do some of the most hideous tricks I've ever seen
Lol he points out Jamie's miniscule touch on defense but nothing about GIger's (tbh kinda big ish) touch on offense for inward heel at 7:04...
Also lol, it's a pressure heel. Your toe is pretty much on the floor in the set up
Conspiracy wise, it's better for batb that Jamie won as he can get to America given that all restrictions are gone in the UK. I'm not a conspiracy guy, but Jonny wins the first game comfortably then loses the second? Hmmm 🤔
Jonny is in Switzerland. Jonny seemed to have more nerves in the BATB match. It was a grate match and has a good chance of being the best match of this season.
Johnny vs Jamie was the worst thing to happen in this BATB. having THIS as round1 makes everybody the loser. this should have been semifinals. look at the rest of the "influencer" bracket where there were people who could hardly kickflip.