Shields are, in fact, so useful as weapons that in full speed full contact SCA fighting, they can't be struck with safely. So we don't strike with them. It's against the rules.
Greetings, I am from the Barony of Three Rivers in Calontir and Sir Hiram is one of my best friends. To see him in the two opening scenes was surprising and hilarious! I will have to try to figure out how to send him a link. I'm sure he will "love" it. Syr Valdemar Jarnknefi
Cool video and I'm also highly impressed with your MASTERFULL put-downs for the trolls! I've LARPed once in my life and even from that, I can testify that if foam weapons hurt, rattan must hurt a hell of a lot more, even with armour. Just wish I could get involved in the SCA. Sadly, living in England, there's not many groups around. The closest's in Basingstoke... Dammit, why do Americans get all the coolest geek stuff? (Pretty sure that's an oxymoron, but still...)
I'm glad no one has done this at my local practice, I would be in every "what not to do" frame. I can't help that I block with my head instead of the buckler. The buckler costs more, I need to keep it looking good.
What a fun video. It was extra fun to see Almalric, the current King of AnTir. He sometimes comes to my Barony's local fight practice. He'll be stepping down at 12th night.
The guy in the white belt is Duke Amalric, yes now of An Tir. He lived in Atlantia for quite a while. The other is Aethelwolf, and I'm sure he has never been in An Tir for any reasonable amount of time.
Well, I don't know if you've had a response after all this time, or even still need an answer, but in the SCA most of our work (at least where I am), we use the base technique called "The Bellatrix Snap". It generates force from multiple areas of the body, including the arm, and is meant to generate enough force to penetrate armor, but still move fast enough to be practical.
If you look closely at the remaining information, it is clear that the knights and professional soldiers of the medieval period were in fact professional and skilled. Their traditions have mostly been lost, but that's part of what we are rediscovering. Manuals like I.33 for sword and buckler, or Joie de Hache for poleaxe work show there were systems for fighting in the west, in armor. Not just bashing with main strength.
Hah, good video for those of us who haven't entered combat yet. I'm not quite old enough nor do I have the recources to begin right now, but studying things like this helps a lot =) Just one question...why no ducking/dodging?
'Only one guy is supposed to fall down' more like "No Head Bashing" that guy charged and drove his helmet into the other fighter's shield. Shields are bigger
On the "block don't duck" it looked like the man in red hit the man in checkers quite well across the head while avoiding being hit himself. Did I miss something? I am confused as to why he should have blocked.
So that everyone will be able to find each other to arrange this demonstration at Border Raids, may I suggest that Dukex3 (Palymar) and bludbathmcgrath ("William Tolliver") post links here to pictures of themselves, preferably in the heraldic display they'll use at Border Raids? I'd hate for you guys to miss each other!
Clearly, your extreme distance from Pennsic is what has kept you from being legends at that event. Or that this year would be the first that you'd be old enough to fight at it. I don't talk trash. That's probably why I'm so interested in seeing some proof of your skill. Every newly authorized fighter I've ever seen, regardless of age, has been more or less a single shot kill for the experienced. So seeing your skill level will be a revelation.
Border Raids IS on the 23-25 of June. Did you mean to say that you thought all the fighting was going to take place on a FRIDAY? I don't know how far Dukex3 has to travel, but if he can't get there Friday evening, I'll bet he knows someone who is who can stand in his stead.
There are oafs in every art. You do not see aimless swinging in this video, and this is a BLOOPER reel. I also note that when moderately skilled SCA guys go and play in other WMA stuff, they usually rise to the top of the competition pretty quickly. Full speed training has its powerful benefits.
My drive is only about 3 hours, but I am not sure when I will be heading out of town. I am hoping to arrive in time for the torchlight tourney (to watch) I can always armor up for some pick up fighting off to the side. *GRIN*
But by all means, if you're suggesting that the way we fight is in some way "wimpy", then please do be sure to mention this at any SCA fighting event you happen to attend. Be sure to tell this to everyone you face in the list that day, and if you aren't yet authorized to fight in the SCA, (which I imagine is the case) then certainly explain this to the person who volunteers to fight your authorization bout.
Hm.. Talking from a european swordfighter's (training from lichtenauer's techniques) I'm really interested in how these techniques work. They seem somewhat odd to me. Is it just a new kind of sport, or do you use different techniques? Just being curious, would love to join in on an sca-battle when I'm back in the states :)
Because this sport was developed before the popularization of historical techniques with HEMA etc, a lot of the techniques were developed by trial-and-error or adaption of other martial arts and principles of physics and ergonomics. AS such drastically different styles were developed all over the world. There are regional styles and those favored by certain households. Since there are no weight or size classes or restrictions, different body types can be matched against each other, with differing styles and techniques that serve each type. If you search UA-cam for things like "sca fighting technique" you chould find bunches of videos that eplain the techniques people use. BTW, there are SCA groups in Europe. go to www.sca.org" and look for the link to "find local group."
I'd also like to add that wearing plate armor (like me) reduces your flexibility, and makes the wearer very top-heavy. I am a new fighter, and often find myself being pushed over by body stabs.
Dukex3, please do be sure to "help" bludbathmcgrath understand the reinforced honor system the SCA uses. I'm sure from the "Tale of Chivalry" I found about you online, that you will be gentler in the teaching than others would choose to be. I myself do not fight, but greatly respect the effort SCA fighters put into learning to fight and the skills it takes to do it well.
SOP for learning SCA heavy combat is starting out with "weapon(sword, axe, mace, etc) and shield". Once you've become proficient with that, you can start training with other weapon forms
Well a blunt tool vs armor works well, but an edged weapon can produce a very painful ringing effect, but ultimately is more damaging to your sword. So is the Sca a variant of a martial art?
SCA = martial art? That really depends on your opinion. There are 40 pages of commentary on Bullshido.net about that very question. Some people who do this claim yes, some people who do not say no. A lot of it has to do with your approach to it.
Sir Corby, Just watched the video again. Good clean wholesome fun. Thank you. To all the viewers, Try it out, it is huge fun. I think every person who suits up discovers that fighting an unwilling and actively resisting opponent is far more difficult than you imagined - and more fun too! Remember the lessons learned by MMA competitors, those combat arts which aren't being practiced with realistic training scenarios are not practical when faced by aggressive battle hardened opponents.
Yeesh....alot of bashing in the comments. SCA combat is fun. I'm so bored with people who look at anything other people are doing and go...."whatever is way more EXTREME! What your doing is lame cause I'm so EXTREME!".......chiiiill. 's fun...give it a shot you might like it.
Oh, and one more thing, can you confirm that you are authorized to fight in SCA combat? And that you have all the equipment you need? On the last part, if you mention here any gear you might need, I'm sure someone can have spares available at Border Raids.
And pray tell, who is "WE" and could you post some video of your methods for fighting FULL speed FULL contact with it, as the ability to do so without causing serious injury, especially while wearing only "light leathers" is the sort of skill that should be demonstrated to the world.
@SirCorby I study Italian longsword, and don't do SCA heavy combat. What the SCA guys do may not be 'historical', but I have seen some SCA guys with real skill, and they have more than once given a good spanking to overconfident martial artists from other traditions, Getting past that damned shield is a bitch!
@JVRottweil Actually wearing plastic doesn't help you win. It's a honor-based contest, so the armor really is just there for protection and appearance. I used to have a set of Kydex™ leg armor that I stopped wearing because it worked too well. OTOH, there are plenty of top heavy fighters who wear minimal armor because they can move faster.
The only way I'll ever let him keep a post up here is if Dukex3 or someone else I personally know tells me that blud showed up at an event and fought. Or if he writes a very polite, full apology, admitting that he doesn't know what he was bragging about.
@smeigaldavis "Beat each other with sticks". Yup, thats pretty much what its about. Really fun. This isnt actual re-enactment. Its not a school for historical martial arts. Its a group of folks having fun.
Man, I'm only 16 and just started playing Amtgard, and I want to get into this so bad! Only problem would be my parents and where I can find a group near me =/
Forgive my ignorance, but why would you intentionally aim for the helmet? or a protected area. I really am not trying to be the martial art snob, but I don't know much about the Sca, and would like like to get some info from a member. I was going to ARMA way, but I want to try something a little different it looks fun, but already belonging to another group the do's and don'ts are obviously conflicting here. If some of you SCA guys or gals could give me a run down message me Ty.
In SCA combat, striking a fair blow to the helm is a "kill" shot. SCA helms are, or SHOULD be, constructed ESPECIALLY to protect from deliberate impacts, not just to ward off the occasional "OOPS" shot, that went where it wasn't intended to go
@Patrickthedutch For the most part, no. the fighting looks medieval"ish" but its a mix of many things and some purely SCA. The fighting has become sportlike and grew into its own thing. All in all, really damn fun though. there are rules but its all borne out of safety. Its not about re-enacting , its about having fun in a medieval like atmosphere.
Consider yourself lucky Bludbath, you have saved yourself an ass whooping that might will have been video taped and presented for all the world to see.
What's up with this "Block-Dont duck" -thing? I think the easiest "block" sometimes is to take a step back or to duck. A friend of mine is almost just working with sidestep or duck and he is a pretty damn good fighter. P.S.: This should not be offensive, I just want to know the reason for this rule.
SirCOrby - Well done, keep them coming. I'll add one I wish I had video for: "No, helm manteling is not a "thrown weapon" Duke3X- are you in fact Duke Syr Palymar of the Two Baronies? If so, well met (again). Regarding this "blud" person - I doubt he's got an auth card, no one would authorize him. ALso don't you find it odd that someone can afford live fighting steel, a lorica and other armor, yet can't seem to score a video camera. $100 for a simple one at Wal-Mart IanEsq.
Actually, that isn't true. You would be located in the Kingdom of Drachenwald, likely in the Princepality of Insulae Draconis. Try the SCA site and look for the group nearest you. Yought enjoy a meeting or two.
Good Sir Corby, I will do my best to pass on you greetings to William. William, I hope you have taken the time read the rules for participating at an SCA event, assembled the proper armor for SCA combat and prepared yourself to authorize. We may all be a bunch of amateurs without skill, but we still have some rules that must be followed. I would hate for you to come all that way and not be able to kick my ass :-)
LordDraco, you know SCA fighters aren't allow to deliberately hurt their opponents. And the way a lot of theses guys talk down about Us, I can't see any of them being worried about injuries in any case ;)
haha... nice video! I wish there was a way for me to participate in something like this in India but the idea itself is soo farfetched it saddens me :( the closest I can get to this is to duel with semi-interested friends of mine with wooden swords that I made...
@AlekseiGriffin I've seen some russian WMA or whatever. While I admire their bravery, toughness and power, I've yet to see anything that looked like more than flailing, grabbing people by the neck and throwing them down. As for "light taps" I'll call bullshit. People get hurt when they get hit full speed on unarmored spots, and that's with a weapon that transfers an order of magnitude less force than the weird basket hilted machete looking things I saw in a recent video of a russian competition
Ducking is terrible in ANY situation. You expose your lower back and your neck. You also can't see where you are striking or going. The enemy can easily just bash you down or block your attacks with a shield and thrust his sword into your spine and bam, you're dead.
Great fun watching it, these guys really go for it. But the footwork is lousy. First thing you learn: never be unbalanced, never make a too large swing, the opponent might get in behind your swing. But again: looks like a real hoot. Well done.
First on the "no skill" and "they suck" theme: Did you happen to notice this is a blooper movie? Most of the fighters here are now quite skilled. As for out of shape: I'm 6'3", 195 lbs with a 38" waist. Oh, and I'm 46 years old. How about you? I'll guess 5'11", 255, 44" waist, 25 yrs. Am I close? Further, f I understand you correctly, you're saying that everyone who fights with a different set of rules from yours is a wimp? Is that reasonable? How about Kendo? Escrima? Kickboxers?
@Raawrbert reading your comment it seems they didnt want you back not because you "beat their champion" but because you weren't playing by their rules.
@SonOfCallaugh Most Kingdoms require you to start off sword and shield to get authorized. After that go with what you like. Each area is different so check into it. Has anyone contacted you in your area yet? If not. let me know and I will help.
WMA? Women's Motocross Association?? Why do you have to crack on this video? If your not into the SCA and are a fan of the serious WMA, what are you doing here cracking on others?
Many years ago my toddler daughter watched this video with me and would request it every few days. Thanks for the fun memories.
Oh my god that was FUNNY! Awesome! This made my night. (I'm going to remain silent on whether or not I've done any of the bloopers...)
The poleman bit was great. Evaded and countered well.
This must be, like, the oldest SCA fighting video on UA-cam, and still going strong!
Shields are, in fact, so useful as weapons that in full speed full contact SCA fighting, they can't be struck with safely. So we don't strike with them. It's against the rules.
Greetings,
I am from the Barony of Three Rivers in Calontir and Sir Hiram is one of my best friends. To see him in the two opening scenes was surprising and hilarious! I will have to try to figure out how to send him a link. I'm sure he will "love" it.
Syr Valdemar Jarnknefi
Cool video and I'm also highly impressed with your MASTERFULL put-downs for the trolls! I've LARPed once in my life and even from that, I can testify that if foam weapons hurt, rattan must hurt a hell of a lot more, even with armour.
Just wish I could get involved in the SCA. Sadly, living in England, there's not many groups around. The closest's in Basingstoke... Dammit, why do Americans get all the coolest geek stuff? (Pretty sure that's an oxymoron, but still...)
I’m surprised a place like England wouldn’t have more!
I'm glad no one has done this at my local practice, I would be in every "what not to do" frame. I can't help that I block with my head instead of the buckler. The buckler costs more, I need to keep it looking good.
This was right about when I started fighting. Crazy to look back in the past like this
What a fun video. It was extra fun to see Almalric, the current King of AnTir. He sometimes comes to my Barony's local fight practice. He'll be stepping down at 12th night.
The guy in the white belt is Duke Amalric, yes now of An Tir. He lived in Atlantia for quite a while. The other is Aethelwolf, and I'm sure he has never been in An Tir for any reasonable amount of time.
Well, I don't know if you've had a response after all this time, or even still need an answer, but in the SCA most of our work (at least where I am), we use the base technique called "The Bellatrix Snap". It generates force from multiple areas of the body, including the arm, and is meant to generate enough force to penetrate armor, but still move fast enough to be practical.
If you look closely at the remaining information, it is clear that the knights and professional soldiers of the medieval period were in fact professional and skilled. Their traditions have mostly been lost, but that's part of what we are rediscovering. Manuals like I.33 for sword and buckler, or Joie de Hache for poleaxe work show there were systems for fighting in the west, in armor. Not just bashing with main strength.
Hah, good video for those of us who haven't entered combat yet. I'm not quite old enough nor do I have the recources to begin right now, but studying things like this helps a lot =)
Just one question...why no ducking/dodging?
It's true, he does need a lanyard. Beautifully edited, I thought your choice of music was perfect.
Sorry for the late reply. My helm was made in 1993-4 by Master Chirhart and Baron Heinrich of Bright Hills. They don't work together any more.
'Only one guy is supposed to fall down' more like "No Head Bashing" that guy charged and drove his helmet into the other fighter's shield. Shields are bigger
@SirCorby
I was one of the list girls. yay. Hopefully we will see you this year. It's a fun tournament. I am busy working on Prizes now.
@Ketilbiorn They are NOT wearing "a gambeson and a surcoat with helmet". And I did not say "don't step back."
On the "block don't duck" it looked like the man in red hit the man in checkers quite well across the head while avoiding being hit himself.
Did I miss something?
I am confused as to why he should have blocked.
So that everyone will be able to find each other to arrange this demonstration at Border Raids, may I suggest that Dukex3 (Palymar) and bludbathmcgrath ("William Tolliver") post links here to pictures of themselves, preferably in the heraldic display they'll use at Border Raids?
I'd hate for you guys to miss each other!
Clearly, your extreme distance from Pennsic is what has kept you from being legends at that event. Or that this year would be the first that you'd be old enough to fight at it.
I don't talk trash. That's probably why I'm so interested in seeing some proof of your skill. Every newly authorized fighter I've ever seen, regardless of age, has been more or less a single shot kill for the experienced. So seeing your skill level will be a revelation.
Border Raids IS on the 23-25 of June. Did you mean to say that you thought all the fighting was going to take place on a FRIDAY? I don't know how far Dukex3 has to travel, but if he can't get there Friday evening, I'll bet he knows someone who is who can stand in his stead.
There are oafs in every art. You do not see aimless swinging in this video, and this is a BLOOPER reel. I also note that when moderately skilled SCA guys go and play in other WMA stuff, they usually rise to the top of the competition pretty quickly. Full speed training has its powerful benefits.
My drive is only about 3 hours, but I am not sure when I will be heading out of town. I am hoping to arrive in time for the torchlight tourney (to watch) I can always armor up for some pick up fighting off to the side. *GRIN*
Actual serious rules that actually allow people to fight full force full speed and not seriously injure each other.
But by all means, if you're suggesting that the way we fight is in some way "wimpy", then please do be sure to mention this at any SCA fighting event you happen to attend. Be sure to tell this to everyone you face in the list that day, and if you aren't yet authorized to fight in the SCA, (which I imagine is the case) then certainly explain this to the person who volunteers to fight your authorization bout.
I love this. I'm in An Tir and love to see how the rest of the known world plays!!!!
That is the funniest thin i've seen.. hehe well the captions are hilarious.. :) keep up the hard work :P
So, William, you mean to say there's not a single picture of you anywhere on the web?
Ok, it's 2021. Is the SCA worth getting involved with nowadays? Be honest, I'm genuinely interested.
Hm.. Talking from a european swordfighter's (training from lichtenauer's techniques) I'm really interested in how these techniques work. They seem somewhat odd to me.
Is it just a new kind of sport, or do you use different techniques?
Just being curious, would love to join in on an sca-battle when I'm back in the states :)
Because this sport was developed before the popularization of historical techniques with HEMA etc, a lot of the techniques were developed by trial-and-error or adaption of other martial arts and principles of physics and ergonomics. AS such drastically different styles were developed all over the world. There are regional styles and those favored by certain households. Since there are no weight or size classes or restrictions, different body types can be matched against each other, with differing styles and techniques that serve each type.
If you search UA-cam for things like "sca fighting technique" you chould find bunches of videos that eplain the techniques people use.
BTW, there are SCA groups in Europe. go to www.sca.org" and look for the link to "find local group."
I'd also like to add that wearing plate armor (like me) reduces your flexibility, and makes the wearer very top-heavy. I am a new fighter, and often find myself being pushed over by body stabs.
really cool!! hope to see you soon in my country ;)( we only prepare choregraphy for people...)
Dukex3, please do be sure to "help" bludbathmcgrath understand the reinforced honor system the SCA uses. I'm sure from the "Tale of Chivalry" I found about you online, that you will be gentler in the teaching than others would choose to be. I myself do not fight, but greatly respect the effort SCA fighters put into learning to fight and the skills it takes to do it well.
I'm thinking about joining a SCA chapter near me and am trying to decide should I go with a Sword and Shield or should I go with a Voluge.
SOP for learning SCA heavy combat is starting out with "weapon(sword, axe, mace, etc) and shield". Once you've become proficient with that, you can start training with other weapon forms
Your name is really familiar. Did you participate in Tarl's polearm tourney this year?
Where are all these folks now, I wonder?
Almeric lives in my shire! He's really cool too! Can't wait till Kingdom A and S
Well a blunt tool vs armor works well, but an edged weapon can produce a very painful ringing effect, but ultimately is more damaging to your sword. So is the Sca a variant of a martial art?
SCA = martial art? That really depends on your opinion. There are 40 pages of commentary on Bullshido.net about that very question. Some people who do this claim yes, some people who do not say no. A lot of it has to do with your approach to it.
yes you can though I've never been a member I have been to several functions and people of all backgrounds are members.
Phoenix is the Kingdom of Atenveldt, and meets at Encanto Park (15th Ave and Osborne) Wednesday night.
Sir Corby,
Just watched the video again. Good clean wholesome fun. Thank you.
To all the viewers, Try it out, it is huge fun. I think every person who suits up discovers that fighting an unwilling and actively resisting opponent is far more difficult than you imagined - and more fun too! Remember the lessons learned by MMA competitors, those combat arts which aren't being practiced with realistic training scenarios are not practical when faced by aggressive battle hardened opponents.
the biggest difference would be the armour and the amounts of bows/ranged weapons on the battle field.
Yeesh....alot of bashing in the comments. SCA combat is fun. I'm so bored with people who look at anything other people are doing and go...."whatever is way more EXTREME! What your doing is lame cause I'm so EXTREME!".......chiiiill. 's fun...give it a shot you might like it.
@Emanusmell We are not re-enactors. Its just having fun and fighting. Not historical. It just has some appearance of it.
Oh, and one more thing, can you confirm that you are authorized to fight in SCA combat? And that you have all the equipment you need? On the last part, if you mention here any gear you might need, I'm sure someone can have spares available at Border Raids.
And pray tell, who is "WE" and could you post some video of your methods for fighting FULL speed FULL contact with it, as the ability to do so without causing serious injury, especially while wearing only "light leathers" is the sort of skill that should be demonstrated to the world.
@SirCorby I study Italian longsword, and don't do SCA heavy combat. What the SCA guys do may not be 'historical', but I have seen some SCA guys with real skill, and they have more than once given a good spanking to overconfident martial artists from other traditions, Getting past that damned shield is a bitch!
@JVRottweil Actually wearing plastic doesn't help you win. It's a honor-based contest, so the armor really is just there for protection and appearance. I used to have a set of Kydex™ leg armor that I stopped wearing because it worked too well.
OTOH, there are plenty of top heavy fighters who wear minimal armor because they can move faster.
@Ketilbiorn Blocking requires less energy. Remember these people are wearing significant amounts of armor.
Tragically, he did NOT show. SirCorby, you would have known if he did. You would have heard his crys of pain even 600 miles away :)
Do we have this in England. I want it
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@hamscum i wouldnt say so i can do a full back tuck in my armor so im sure someone could kick if they tried its just not allowed
The only way I'll ever let him keep a post up here is if Dukex3 or someone else I personally know tells me that blud showed up at an event and fought. Or if he writes a very polite, full apology, admitting that he doesn't know what he was bragging about.
Thanks for the video! I enjoyed it
@smeigaldavis "Beat each other with sticks". Yup, thats pretty much what its about. Really fun. This isnt actual re-enactment. Its not a school for historical martial arts. Its a group of folks having fun.
Hahaha. Thanks for sharing. *doesn't heavy fight, but it's still neat to watch* XD
VERY entertainig. Thanks for sharing this.
Wait, "Sir" Corby. Not sure if thats just a name, or are you actually a knight in the SCA? If so, My appologies. :)
Man, I'm only 16 and just started playing Amtgard, and I want to get into this so bad! Only problem would be my parents and where I can find a group near me =/
Please send "William" my regards, your grace. Alas, its almost 600 miles away for me. Too far for me to go just to say "Hi" to William.
3 of my cousins and their parents used to do SCA
I got to watch them practis at home it was fun to watch
Forgive my ignorance, but why would you intentionally aim for the helmet? or a protected area. I really am not trying to be the martial art snob, but I don't know much about the Sca, and would like like to get some info from a member. I was going to ARMA way, but I want to try something a little different it looks fun, but already belonging to another group the do's and don'ts are obviously conflicting here. If some of you SCA guys or gals could give me a run down message me Ty.
In SCA combat, striking a fair blow to the helm is a "kill" shot. SCA helms are, or SHOULD be, constructed ESPECIALLY to protect from deliberate impacts, not just to ward off the occasional "OOPS" shot, that went where it wasn't intended to go
@Patrickthedutch For the most part, no. the fighting looks medieval"ish" but its a mix of many things and some purely SCA. The fighting has become sportlike and grew into its own thing. All in all, really damn fun though. there are rules but its all borne out of safety. Its not about re-enacting , its about having fun in a medieval like atmosphere.
Consider yourself lucky Bludbath, you have saved yourself an ass whooping that might will have been video taped and presented for all the world to see.
What's up with this "Block-Dont duck" -thing? I think the easiest "block" sometimes is to take a step back or to duck. A friend of mine is almost just working with sidestep or duck and he is a pretty damn good fighter.
P.S.: This should not be offensive, I just want to know the reason for this rule.
So, did he show? Just wondering. ;-)
SirCOrby - Well done, keep them coming. I'll add one I wish I had video for: "No, helm manteling is not a "thrown weapon"
Duke3X- are you in fact Duke Syr Palymar of the Two Baronies? If so, well met (again).
Regarding this "blud" person - I doubt he's got an auth card, no one would authorize him. ALso don't you find it odd that someone can afford live fighting steel, a lorica and other armor, yet can't seem to score a video camera. $100 for a simple one at Wal-Mart
IanEsq.
thanks to your fighter for being awesome
Any SCA chapters in phoenix az?
Actually, that isn't true. You would be located in the Kingdom of Drachenwald, likely in the Princepality of Insulae Draconis. Try the SCA site and look for the group nearest you. Yought enjoy a meeting or two.
Oh, believe me, that back cut was intentional. Thanks.
Great stuff
This is just as reasonable as suggesting that football defensive linemen would be more effective if they used cricket bats to block passes.
Good Sir Corby, I will do my best to pass on you greetings to William.
William, I hope you have taken the time read the rules for participating at an SCA event, assembled the proper armor for SCA combat and prepared yourself to authorize. We may all be a bunch of amateurs without skill, but we still have some rules that must be followed. I would hate for you to come all that way and not be able to kick my ass :-)
Google is a wonderful thing. UA-cam won't let me put a link here but search for "SCA Group Phoenix"
Yes I participate and I should be at Border Raids. In the SCA I am known as Palymar. Most of the fighters there will be able to point me out :-)
LordDraco, you know SCA fighters aren't allow to deliberately hurt their opponents. And the way a lot of theses guys talk down about Us, I can't see any of them being worried about injuries in any case ;)
haha...
nice video!
I wish there was a way for me to participate in something like this in India but the idea itself is soo farfetched it saddens me :(
the closest I can get to this is to duel with semi-interested friends of mine with wooden swords that I made...
who are you talking to?
look at the sites from hammaborg and ucc-hamburg, it s interesting for all sword fighter
@AlekseiGriffin I've seen some russian WMA or whatever. While I admire their bravery, toughness and power, I've yet to see anything that looked like more than flailing, grabbing people by the neck and throwing them down.
As for "light taps" I'll call bullshit. People get hurt when they get hit full speed on unarmored spots, and that's with a weapon that transfers an order of magnitude less force than the weird basket hilted machete looking things I saw in a recent video of a russian competition
Have you seen the Russians lately? And the US teams that have fought against them?
Ducking is terrible in ANY situation. You expose your lower back and your neck. You also can't see where you are striking or going. The enemy can easily just bash you down or block your attacks with a shield and thrust his sword into your spine and bam, you're dead.
Great fun watching it, these guys really go for it. But the footwork is lousy. First thing you learn: never be unbalanced, never make a too large swing, the opponent might get in behind your swing.
But again: looks like a real hoot. Well done.
SirCorby, That is too damn funny :-)
jhwhood, I am Duke Palymar. Well Met
@Emanusmell I know your comment is old but the 'bops' you see never really count as hits.
never bring a sword to a gun fight....
It was simply not the thing to do in that situation. Always better to keep your weapon in front of you.
@flibbertygibbet Not this year. Several years in the past though. In 2009 I was 5th, I think. Sad that I took too long a break.
LOTS! its a fun group they meet out at encanto park unless they changed locations.
OMG very funny hope to see you guys at pensic 40
First on the "no skill" and "they suck" theme: Did you happen to notice this is a blooper movie? Most of the fighters here are now quite skilled.
As for out of shape: I'm 6'3", 195 lbs with a 38" waist. Oh, and I'm 46 years old. How about you? I'll guess 5'11", 255, 44" waist, 25 yrs. Am I close?
Further, f I understand you correctly, you're saying that everyone who fights with a different set of rules from yours is a wimp? Is that reasonable? How about Kendo? Escrima? Kickboxers?
@Raawrbert reading your comment it seems they didnt want you back not because you "beat their champion" but because you weren't playing by their rules.
@SonOfCallaugh Most Kingdoms require you to start off sword and shield to get authorized. After that go with what you like. Each area is different so check into it. Has anyone contacted you in your area yet? If not. let me know and I will help.
@skaboss3178 Definitely intentional. Poleaxes had large spikes on the opposite side from the hammer/axe head. Nasty weapon.
Not just a name. Also, a large number of the people in the video are now knights. But I'm not sure what you're apologizing for.
WMA? Women's Motocross Association?? Why do you have to crack on this video? If your not into the SCA and are a fan of the serious WMA, what are you doing here cracking on others?
Since when was sword fighting reenactment real fighting?
Since people started doing it competitively instead of acting out a specific event. I prefer to call it "recreation" (pun intentional).
hey if they knock you off balance on the shield, why not knock them over too =P