I Have Antisocial Personality - (Therapist Reacts)
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- Dr. Kirk reacts to a video on the Special Books by Special Kids channel in which Joseph discusses his diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder
00:00 I Have Antisocial Personality - (Therapist Reacts)
00:38 Antisocial/psychopathy myths
17:12 Reciprocity & empathy
28:05 Right vs. wrong & trauma
40:09 Support, resentment, & lying
49:25 Closing thoughts
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SBSK is such an amazing channel! Really happy to see Dr. Honda reacting to one of their videos 😁
Me too!
yes! Chris is wonderful
I'm very close to someone with lifelong ASPD - it started as conduct disorder as a young child and progressed. He's been diagnosed by more than one forensic psychologist. The thing is - he masks it well, but won't hide it if asked . He learned early on that there are rules to social interaction and is quite polite and nice to deal with. But he's also an alcoholic, which is when the ASPD is acted out. As long as he stays sober, his cognitive empathy and good common sense allow him to function wrll.
I as well. Then, I myself also have problematic diagnosis. I try to be the voice of reason to my friend, tell him how his bad decision he is about to make would impact HIM negatively and make HOS life difficult - then, he gets it. When he's paused due to that, then his empathy kicks in. If you can pause the impulsiveness, the emotional processing can catch up and kick in. 😁
Actually I do have emotional empathy for people. However I am considered to be antisocial because I do not identify with normal people. I see little connection between myself and others. But I do have emotions and emotional empathy. However my common sense is lacking.
@@nugget6635 have you considered autism? just a thought.
@@nugget6635 The struggle is real.
ASPD and Anxiety is problematic for that reason. To be more outgoing you drink to reduce the anxiety but it makes you more apt to give into your impulsivity.
i'm so glad this video found me! i watched the original video sometime ago and since i've known the community of that channel for quite a long a time (they're really supportive people), i decided to read the comments and was surprised by the number of people who were seeing Joseph as an alien like you said. People were "exposing" and "interpreting" his every facial expression and mannerisms (in an extremely negative way of course) as if they were studying a lab rat. i even left a comment about that, trying to remind people about his story from 7th grade and pointing out the fact that they were basically replicating this story and dehumanizing him again. Only to shortly after receive an obnoxious response about how "real people" see the truth past his lies. i didn't care too much about it but it was reassuring to see an authentic analysis of that interview. Your observation about eye contact and laughing made me happy that you actually *saw* Joseph.
I agree, It's really disheartening to see those comments. The recent flood of very negative videos(on UA-cam) labeling all ASPD & Psychopaths as inhuman creatures born & predestined to be serial killers/abusers is probably what lead to these floods of individuals posting these very critical comments towards people obviously suffering from a mental illness. It reminds me of how all BPD people were seen as unstable serial killers after the Nancy Grace coverage of Jodi Arias. These people are unreasonable and, after talking to some of them, they genuinely seem like they'd be fine with culling anyone who has these conditions. Which is ironic, because they're acting exactly like the stereotype of ASPD which they obviously vehemently hate.
Totally, observed the same on the channel Ask a Psychopath. 'Good' people go by labels, it's scary.
I saw this interview with Joseph on Special Books by Special Kids and was very saddened by the story of his childhood. I enjoyed the commentary by a psychologist which provided more insight into Joseph's view of the world and how he functions in it. Let's remember at 19 in many ways he's still a child. I think it was very brave of him to share his story. His intelligence and intellectual capability to be self-aware and understand society are great strengths. Still, anyone who falls in love with him may be in for a bumpy ride.
He makes me uneasy, I think aside from his slow rather circular speech, but not sure what to make of him. I'm on the autism spectrum and my experience with empathy is quite a lot different than Neurotypical people. I really appreciate how Dr Honda analyses this situation.
He’s like an alien. He probably is.
@@Brxwn9he is the same species as you, get over it Johan.
He makes me uneasy too. He looks and sounds very calculating. And smiles in inappropriate places. He is very pale, my guess through self-neglect. I think he has other mental problems and I feel he has experienced a lot of neglect or lack of love in early life.
It’s his hands 😳😳😳😳😳😳😂
@e I didn't mean to imply it was a "sign" of being a sociopath. I don't think per se it is. He is also quite specific, which I think could even be a sign of being on hte spectrum (autism I mean). I found the circular thing harder to listen to. "Hard" articulation can even be "cultural". Years ago I met an very upper income families, except for the rebel daughter (how I knew met them) they spoke like this. The rebel daughter slurred all her words, possibly annoying them to death. :D
Is it weird that I absolutely love the nuance of psychology? Every time he says something like "but there's a few definitions of that." Or "there's a lot of opinion put into a diagnosis" and I'm over here like YES! Yes please tell me more!
I have noticed that nuance has all but disappeared from discussions, so I find topics like this to be a breath of fresh air. Like yes, let's get into the details and how/why things are different from one situation to another. Nuance and context are so important to understand the world and human beings, but many people skip it in favor of overly-simplified quips.
Thank you for this video! My mom was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder 12 years ago. Right after she got clean and sober. And I think she grew out of it or learned to care abt ppl. Because shes still sober is a chemical dependency counselor and does a lot for us. Shes not very nurturing sometimes shes not very understanding but shes come a long way in caring abt ppl. So thanks for this video I have a better understanding
Yay! I love when two channels I watch comment on or react to the other's content!
Special Books by Special Kids is such a great channel. And so is Psychology in Seattle so I'm pumped for this video 😄
At minute 10 I think what he is saying is that he did some bad things to someone he thinks isn't a good person. He's not going to go into detail why he's a bad person. But by saying others around him don't blame him for doing the bad stuff he did, that paints the picture that this guy wasn't a good guy. ...at least that's how I interpreted it
It sounded to me like he was proud of doing something bad to that person and nobody knows he actually is responsible for that.
I've been watching your videos since you started discussing the first Love is Blind series and I remember the comment section being SO much different then. People were thankful for your input, they recognized themselves in some people and appreciated a different point of view on their behaviors. In my opinion you offer a kinder, more in depth view into people's behaviors in a time where that kindness and understanding is sometimes hard to find. Now, it seems like people in the comment section are literally doing the opposite of what you were trying to do: they jump to conclusions, make wild generalizations about certain personality disorders and everyone is suddenly an armchair psychiatrist able to diagnose individuals based on a couple of videos. I sometimes wonder if those people actually watch the videos or if they're just reacting to the title. I guess it comes with becoming more popular and "mainstream" but it does make me sad.
I agree that these videos are important in a way that Dr. Honda considers and discusses all different viewpoints, gaps in our knowledge, and insight into a kinder and non-judgemental way of viewing people's actions and reactions. It has made me personally a lot less judgemental. So thanks Dr Honda!
Don't worry though, the appreciative people and comments are still there. Maybe not as many will comment because they watch the Dr 's videos regularly by now, like myself. Commenting every video just doesn't feel natural to me.
Positivity is often much less pronounced on the internet. Anger and other unproductive emotions often will prompt people to comment, sometimes causing the comment sections to seem off-balance.
Don't be sad, I promise you the appreciative people are still here!
There is generally no sympathy or empathy for personality disorders at the moment in society (bpd, aspd, etc)
@@kagomay98 I agree, which is quite unfortunate because no matter how terrible someone may be as a result of their disorder nobody wants to become someone with a personality disorder. I think part of the issue is that people have a hard time compartmentalizing and for example having empathy for someone for having a disorder, especially one that makes you a bit of a social pariah but then also having to recognize you need to be very careful and guarded around them so you are not taken advantage of. I feel like the nature of empathy sort of disarms a lot of us and causes us to let our guard down, whether we want to or not. So it’s like a fear that if we sympathize with them we give them more opportunity to cause us harm. I dunno, I could be wrong but it’s something I’ve thought about before.
I would have to disagree. I am not experiencing the comments in the same way. Instead I am reading very informative comments from individuals who have educated themselves or who have had real life experiences related to the particular subject matter. APD is a really tough one and I think the comments have matched the content and it's not based on how many views the channel receives. The Doctor included in this clip that individuals with APD can be the worst and he also discussed the dark triad for a second. Many people in the comments have expressed empathy for these individuals on top of sharing their own real life experiences -- negative and positive. It forms productive discussions and educates others. Judging the comments as bad if the majority of them don't lean towards positive or neutral comments isn't productive it's simply masking.
WOW! Finally someone who gets it! Some YT psychs say they have worked with pwASPD but still explain it wrong, like they didn't understand anything that goes further than what is written in the DSM!
You really get it and you explain it well and non-judgemental!
I love SBSK, but some interviews are tough to watch. I guess that's the point though - to see the things society wants to erase. This one was particularly rough because Joseph reminds me so much of my brother that my heart just sank. Even the way they speak, the way they touch their mouth when they are manipulating you with carefully chosen words/expressions. The way they blame everything they do on others or circumstances. When you meet someone like this - practice boundaries, put up protections. I wish I learned that years ago.
❤❤❤❤❤❤ sending so much love to you ... some videos need a TW for sure. I think his previous “antisocial interview” with a another gentleman (who was actively in therapy) did a much better job of this. Take care, dear! Protections are indeed important.
I found the constant face touching very annoying, and have never seen someone do this. So I find it hard to understand why someone would want to be perceived that way. It comes off as a caricature, or maybe someone with extremely low self esteem.
@@catheriney6209 He does have extremely low self esteem, he talks about it in the video. But a lot of his movements read to me more like stimming, or self-soothing movements. He seems to keep repeating the same phrases and repeating the same physical movements. It doesn't seem to me that he is putting on a calculated performance, and he doesn't seem very concerned with how he is perceived, but rather that that is just how he moves and speaks when he is thinking very hard to make sure he uses the exact right words to describe something complicated.
@@catheriney6209well he does have low self esteem.
At the same time tho, there are those of us who actually are trying to get better and we take our time answering because we want to accurately describe with the correct words what we are trying to say. But I do the man in the interview is minimizing his actions. He is embarrassed by his actions. So he doesn't want to admit his actions. It's tough to take responsibility. Especially when you really feel the other person contributed too.
Awesome to see you react to this!!
Your videos are amazing Dr. Kirk, I am learning so much. Thank you for what you do!
Sbsk is a great channel. Thank you for doing a reaction. I really value your insight ❤️
Omg two of my favorite channels have collided. Yay!
Wow Ive seen this video before very excited to see what Dr honda has to say!!
Thank you for breaking the stigma on people and disorders that no one wants to talk about!
I’ve seen kids and adults make that same comment, that they are skilled at lying and deceiving. But when in reality I and other adults and even children had already easily detected their compulsive lying. Generally they made the statement to me, because they felt safe with me to relish in how proud they are of their supposed secret super power. And when I am with a child or adult who I have a relationship with who lies all the time, I generally change the subject and don’t confront them as a way to cope and move on. But they are never entrusted by me with anything important! Maybe I should start trying to help them realize that I do see their lies and stories.
Exactly. I would argue that like with other personality disorders he is arrested at a much younger age mentally and emotionally. He reminds me of a really intelligent 5th or 6th grader that could run circles around their peers but could be easily clocked by the adults and teachers. We just get confused bc he is in an adult body now…but if you listen to him without looking at him you hear a child.
Yeah, they think that because no one tells them they know they're lying that they're good liars but they are rarely good liars. They're usually laughably bad at it in fact. We know and the minute they walk away we talk about how bad they are at it.
@@asunnywebb for me it’s people I care about. So I don’t laugh.
They'll just fight you on it. So it'll do no good to help them realize their lies and stories. Maybe if they're really young. But somebody I know does this and everytime I try to confront them, it's utter hell and a WW3. They gaslight, manipulate and even put on a show of having a "blackout" or "breakdown" just to get out of the confrontation of confronting their lie so that way they don't have to admit that yes they lied. Or now they like to pretend they don't understand what I'm talking about. When one way doesn't work like they would like, they think of another. No, pathological liars aren't clever, they just think they are when regular people drop the topic and don't confront them on it. But in reality, the lie still isn't believed, we just don't want a fight or mental knock down drag out so to speak. But from my experience with people like this, confronting them and trying to change their behavior never works. I've encountered two people like this, but only one I've dealt with for years and tried to help with it just getting worse, no matter how gentle my approach, tone, whatever was. It's best to take them to therapy if they're your child or refer an adult to a therapist and let that be it.
@@italianxpeaches thank you this is pretty much an exact description of dealing with liar. It’s too much work to act appropriate and most convenient to pretend you are duped. And one person who does this is my stepdaughter. But there are others. And I actually think I would like to just act appropriate and say something upon parting like “ ok bye take care it was good seeing you and I definitely want you to know that I’m fully aware that you lied to me about several things a b & c to name a few, and I don’t really want to be treated that way and refuse to discuss it so let’s just take some time apart and not reconnect for several months or perhaps a couple years. Then sometime in the future we can try reconnecting as in, never speaking about the lying but starting over from square one if you wish. Ok bye take care”.
Love this, please do more videos like this! 😊
My goodness, that antisocial man is a sloooooooow talker. I put him on 2x speed and still wanted him to talk faster
He was being very careful about what he said.
This seems to be characteristic of people with ASPD. Lots of long dramatic pauses, nonsensical tangents, and trying to seem cerebral. See: the Darrell Brooks trial (especially the closing statement) for an even more extreme example.
he talks with a fake voice like he's impersonating an evil cliché character
I’m so excited to see you react to special books by special kids!! Psychology in Seattle, SBSK, and The Soft White Underbelly are the only channels I come back to time and time again
The Soft White Underbelly channel kinda makes me feel a bit uneasy now after learning of about what happened with Amanda Rabb and Lima :/
@@annemarizzotto can you fill me in on that? I have never liked his channel.
Soft White Underbelly is low key a gross show, where the interviewer flirts with some of his interviewees. Which is icky cause he's in a position of power over them, and they're in an extremely vulnerable state. And he calls minors who are victims of sex trafficking "prostitutes". A minor can't consent, so they can't be a prostitute. They're being abused.
@@kareeamiot8934 absolutely, I have raised all of the same concerns, I really was upset that he called that family from West Virginia inbred despite having no actual evidence of it. Just local gossip and hearsay. Completely fucked up to give them that stigma when they’re too disabled to even be aware of what they were being called. I couldn’t watch anymore but hearing how he treats the female interviewees, especially the sex workers is nauseating. I’ve seen a fair amount of comments from people who seem to think he’s getting off on this whole thing sexually.
@@annemarizzotto wait please can u elaborate more on that? It's because I love that channel a lot
45:05 I'm actually not shocked at all to hear that he took pleasure in videogame cheating. I've played at a very high skill level in several multiplayer games, and cheaters give the impression of a total disconcern for the rules, equality, empathy etc. Some are quite sadisitic and will disaparage their non-cheating competitors as they rob them of their competitive rank.
Cheating is amazing. You should try it sometime.
@@justsomemonkeymanwithlongh3188 It’s only amazing if you have no regard for the people that you’re cheating against. If you actually care it just feels incredibly unrewarding because you don’t deserve to be abusing unearned power. It might be fun to see how you can break the game but aside from that I could never see myself having fun cheating.
@@justsomemonkeymanwithlongh3188 maybe with your wife
oooh I've been wanting you to do this! So excited to watch
btw, there's another ASPD video on that channel, with different person, which in my opinion portrays it a bit better
@@mm56132 I will look for that. I believe I have experienced adolescents developing this way. I’m not convinced this young man is fully and finally formed psychologically. But definitely on the spectrum of empathy challenged and emotionally underdeveloped or mal-developed.
@@joellenklemek138 agreed!
@@joellenklemek138 give him 6 years til it’s clear
I tried watching the original video just a few days ago, but I couldn’t keep going after 5 minutes. I found him to be so smug, condescending, slow talking in a seemingly calculating way… His constant fake smile was off-putting. Maybe this is what people mean when they say psychopathic individuals are trying to be very “charming”? But I found it to be very obviously fake charm, and thus his whole demeanor was unpleasant to me.
Hopefully with Dr Honda‘s insights I’ll be able to get through his interview this time.
Maybe he was a little nervous about how what he thinks would come out and that's why he talks slowly. And about the smile I think that sometimes we make gestures with which we are familiar but as a form of tic or defense mechanisms. Sometimes I smile when I'm nervous, and it doesn't mean I'm happy or laughing at the situation.
So do you also call autistic people off-putting and fake when they are simply trying to survive in a neuronormative society?
Yeah, his slow talking feels manipulative. He feels powerful because he can keep people listening longer.
Same. I find him boring and trying too hard to be “other”. You don’t need empathy to communicate clearly and concisely, just use regular words. I still don’t get if he was professionally diagnosed or something he assigned himself? Kindly speaking, he just seems majorly depressed, and re writing it as ASPD to feel more “in control”. That’s just my take
Yes
Great video! Very informative :D
I’m so up for a video about the different definitions of empathy and how its debated that it’s construct isn’t useful 😮 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for mentioning how it hurts people with autism. I'm autistic (diagnosed in 2005 at 12) and I am the opposite with emotions. I describe myself as over-emotional and over-empathetic. I have no control over how I react. My 7 year old with ASD is the same. You pointing out that we are not like robots is so comforting because I have been mocked for being a "robot"
i was surprised when he said that because from all i've read (as part of my research for my own issues), being very emotional is quite common for ASD. I guess people just mistake someone being unable to "read the room" with someone actually not having emotions, which is ridiculous.
Anyway, as another over-emotional and over-empathetic person, big hugs to you!
The lack of feeling thing is definitely an insult. But I personally do feel like a robot. Not emotionally but I mean, I have to use my mind and brain like a robot otherwise I can't function.
also asd haver here, i agree ! but also i find that asd plays at extremes a lot- some have v high or v low empathy, some are hyperlexic while some are non-verbal, some are almost aggressively social to compensate while others are withdrawn and struggle a lot… it’s so much more than the ‘robot’ stereotype
Every time I listen to Dr. Honda, I feel one million times smarter.
I really don't know much about APSD. This was so educational!! Thank you
Ikr. Btw There is another interview on the SBSK channel where they interview a young African American man with Antisocial Personality Disorder. I Highly recommend that interview as well if you want to learn more about the disorder. That young man was in therapy and did a great job explaining it ❤
Not saying he doesn't have aspd, but i'd bear in mind he's describing only a seven year period of behavior, which is comprised of only teenage years.
Right and being a 19 year old male his physical brain is not quite fully formed.
Honestly just seems like a slightly depressed, sly kinda guy, but no signs of ASPD from my experience and research. AEB his frequent smiles and at times joyful facial expressions. Psychopaths I’ve seen aren’t that expressive.
100%. I feel like they’d have a difficult time even making a UA-cam video . Maybe I’m wrong
@@AstroZombie1 he’s not a psychopath, having aspd and psychopathy are NOT the same thing.
My brother has it and as a sibling watching it progress with Age in a dark matter it can be truly terrifying at times. Hugs to everyone who also in the same shoes as myself
Sorry 😞
So good to see Dr. Honda react to some SBSK content (:
The best crossover in existence that actually helps people
He looks and acts like a young Edward Norton in a movie. He really seems to be strangely authentic and you get pulled like you would watching a film. It's crazy that he's only 19 years old. I wonder if he was parentified as a young child due to his experiences. At the same time, I'm suspicious because he's smart enough to act charming and manipulate people
Primal Fear is the movie
My psychopathic ex and I used to binge watch sets of sale, body language skills and tricks and how to win people over. Obviously at the time I wasn't aware od his condition. But generally speaking the charm is self taught and boy do they master it.
@@tj7952he gives off a very low self esteem type of person based off of the way he moves his hand on his face and some of those expressions. There’s nothing wrong with having low self esteem but he gives off that energy which to be fair he did say that he was depressed.
@T J I thought he came across as someone who loves his own voice and thinks everyone else does too, when in reality I found him incredibly boring and patronizing and listening to his slooooow yammering nearly put me in a coma.
@T J I’m sure a lot of it is bias because you already know he’s supposedly psychopathic. For me it’s more just that he’s maybe slightly socially awkward
I found this really insightful and educational. Would love to hear even more thoughts from you. There is another ASPD interview on this channel called An Interview With a Sociopath. I wonder if you’d do a response to this one as well as the presentation I believe has some key differences.
Yes please! I would love to hear Dr. Honda's opinion on that video
Awesome video, people are so confused on the internet calling everyone a narcissist or a sociopath....? Great education
Watching this made me see things in both myself and society around me in a new way
I wish you had discussed his repetitive use of the same phrases, his physical mannerisms, and his slow speech, and whether or not those could have anything to do with ASPD.
He talked about it around the 23:00 minute mark. I was curious about his thoughts on that too. He said it was part of his personality and not the ASPD.
He has Asperger's for Christ sake
It's just a personality thing.
I was really too lazy to comment, but your wide academic knowledge got my respect.
You said after 10 years he might reconstruct the memory of his teenage years, Don't you think it's quite early to diagnose him with antisocial personality disorder? Almost all teenagers tend to get defiant.
There is a good definition of empathy which is labeled in 3 types:
Reflexive empathy - the mother smiles the baby smiles back .
Emotional empathy - the ability to relate to other people's emotions which we call normal people.
Cognitive empathy - the ability to scan other people's emotions without having an impact from them. And this is the type of empathy psychopaths and narcissists have.
Keep up the academic authenticity, it's rare around here.
Respects from north Morocco.
Is there any chance you'll look into the Darrell Brooks sentencing? The judge, during sentencing, read from maybe 3 or 4 separate reports provided to the court by professionals. It was absolutely fascinating to hear their analyses.
My perception on this guy is he's really enjoying any shock value he can get from this interview. Prior to doing the interview, I'd assume he's been on the channel and seen that the overall theme is empathy, nurturance and acceptance of atypical people, and I think he's displaying some disdain for that concept, the interviewer, and to the larger audience. His whole presentation is one of callousness and superiority.
I’ve known some with APD and have one currently in my sphere. First, spot on with the comment their lives can be a disaster and a string of broken Relations whether romantic or not.
The way it was explained to me is to imagine whilst driving. We get to a stop light and we’ve learned red-stop Orange-slow caution green-go. If they were emotions one with APD perceive it in shades of grey.
I’ve also loved the recent studies done showing those who are constantly on the defense whether due to mental illness or substance, lose access to empathy/sympathy etc… certain therapies showed those in the studies were able to create new pathways and tools, but it’s a constant they have to work on.
My two fav channelsssss crossoverrr
I'm so glad you decided to deviate from the norm in your field! Not everyone can afford adequate mental health care even if they're ready to do the work. The things I have learned from therapists on You Tube have literally saved my life. Back in 2011 I had heard of NPD from researching Sociopathy because of a crazy ex, but I didn't really understand the ways Narcissistic Abuse affects the body both physically and mentally. Long story shorter, I found Sam Vaknin and finally understood what was happening to me. I had been confused and suicidal prior to finding Sam. I was able to assess the situation properly and try and stay safe from my abusive ex. He is no longer living due to his severe mental issues and my ability to break from him. I'm still here though! I almost wasn't. Since that time, I have been able to learn about Trauma, CPSD, Autism, Childhood Trauma's specific symptoms... there are so many GREAT therapists on here now. You guys have literally saved me. I have learned more on You Tube since the pandemic than I learned from a lifetime of therapists telling me I had BiPolar Disorder when I did not - I was 41 before finding out I'm a female with autism. You kick ass!
I have frontal lobe brain injury from coma. And BPD (the type where I live in my head mostly. And sensitive) anxiety. I'd do anything for love. No matter what. Even tho if I'm beaten up or put into a coma.
I attract these type of guys. Narcissistic, psychopaths, dyssocial. Those are the men who hang onto me. Because they can do whatever they want. And I would still feed them with love and make them feel like the greatest man in the world. I always think everything is my fault. They figure this out very fast about me. I'm naive and too soft. So these are the kind of men who want me all the time. Its stupid.
Same!
First of all: it's not stupid! You are not stupid! You behaviour towards men sounds like a trauma response and a coping strategy that you adopted maybe even during childhood to survive a unloving or even dangerous environment. Developing this strategy of fawning and people pleasing was important and probably saved your life. But now, that you are a grown women its important to recognise that you have a saying in who you date. It does not matter what guys are attracted to you. But it is of the utmost importance that you chose Wisley and carefully. And that takes a lot of self-respect and feeling that you deserve to pick only really nice guys and only open up to them gradually and only have sex with them after a really long courtship( months and months) and only when you are sure of their intentions. Crappy childhood fairy is a great you tube channel helping people with cptsd. I only learned all of that not that long ago and sticking to it has really changed my life so I just wanted to share that.
to add to what Sarah said, not only are you not stupid and your behaviour may be due to trauma, but more importantly, it is not your fault that people are manipulating you. They specifically search for people who are too kind and soft, because it's easier for them to get what they want. that's not your fault
Well congrats on the first step: recognition. You recognised your weakness. Now take it up a notch. Step outside yourself and look at yourself as another friend. What would you say or at least think if you saw your friend getting with these dudes? Exactly. She can do way better. Now say it to yourself. Good luck!
Sending my love to u !
Nice, empathetic and humanising video. I hate how much people with low empathy are demonised, especially as most of those things are used against autistic people so it still feels kinda personal to me.
I don't really get the fear of people with low empathy as bad guys either. I know empaths who've been horrible to people they don't care for. And knowing they feel other peoples emotions and feel guilt but still go out of their way to hurt people is more confusing to me.
I'm not bound by guilt, I do good things because I like to. I don't do bad things because they're not particularly a 'fun challenge' for me. I'm sure many low empathy people are the same, and that's just as legitimate as guilt being a deterant. Also nothing is really stopping them from having cognitive empathy, so the concept of low/no empathy is really showing a limited view of empathy which I find frustrating.
@@MomoKunDaYo I have friends who have little or 'no' empathy (although I argue they still have cognitive empathy), and I definitely don't hate them.
I see that as more a communication barrier, you don't need to know how someone else feels, and feel it yourself. I have higher cognitive empathy and lower emotive empathy not because of an empathy problem, but because I have alexithymia, meaning I struggle to notice and translate my own emotions. As a result, even if I feel something from others, I don't know what it means or how to word it.
So it becomes kinda useless to me. Maybe it's why I identify more with people who have low emotive empathy. My alexithymia has made my cognitive empathy a LOT better though, and as a result, I'm generally more empathetic than most people. Because I use cognitive empathy, it's easier to empathise with people who I have less in common with, because I'm not relying on sharing feelings with them.
I'm not perfect, I still have biases, but my difficulty in one area has overall made me much more efficient in others.
I think anyone with low emotive empathy could probably do what I do, to varying degrees of success. And the idea we NEED to feel empathy the emotional way to be real, genuinely nice and valuable people is ridiculous and hateful. And ironically, it shows the weakness of emotive empathy, because they can't empatise emotionally with those of us with different empathetic processes, they hate us. How is that for 'normal empathy'? lol
Completely and 100% agree with you
@@qwandary Yeah, I get that too. It's wild how hateful supposedly "normal" empathetic people are towards others with low emotive empathy.
I think The ICD system, which is the system used in most of the world outside the USA, is now significantly better with things like this and the DSM is really going to have to catch up. The ICD has abolished the old personality disorders and replaced them with a dimensional, spectrum type model that records all of the traits you have and their severity. It allows for a much more holistic approach that doesn't rely on trying to squeeze people into arbitrary and often badly defined personality disorder boxes.
Go check the PDM-2 if you want a different approach to diagnosis, more focused on a dimensional description of patients and subjective experience of symptoms (and a focus on personality traits)
I wasn't aware of this! I always felt that western medicine is too attached to labels, almost like horoscopes. I'll be checking this out. Thanks!
My adhd (or maybe I’m just impatient) made it very difficult to stay engaged while this guy was talking. My goodness 😅 but it seems interesting.
I just breathed a sigh of relief because I thought I was being impatient … but I also have diagnosed ADHD 😅 I wanted him to get to the point and stop expecting our reaction before answering. I wanted to intuit his responses for myself. I reconsidered the subject and interviewee against that frustration and it helped me focus a bit better. This was all going on while watching the video so I might’ve missed some of it 😅
@@ellemarr7234 I think our dx’d ADHD plays a big role. But being impatient is also a symptom of ADHD so probably both are at play here 😆
I also have ADHD and listening to anyone speak at this pace is painful … reminds me of my old genetics professor
He talks In circles it’s hard to pay attention.
omg my brain was screaming lol
Would love to see more reactions to the SBSK channel -- their interviews are SO interesting!
I appreciate him admitting that there is an opinion on disorders and diagnosis. This is why I’m not particularly interested in being diagnosed with anything, because there are so many different directions you can go in diagnosing someone. I’ve also had people try to diagnose me with various things without fully grasping my personality. You just can’t diagnose someone after a 1 hour session, and the fact that I’ve had therapists who thought they could diagnose me with a disorder after talking to me for an hour is laughable. I used to think I could have aspd, but now I realize I just have a lot of childhood trauma, and while I have some antisocial traits, I wouldn’t go so far as to say I have aspd.
While that is true, getting multiple opinions and doing longterm therapy and more than one session can be beneficial to getting diagnosed. If all of the opinions line up pretty closely, that would be an unbiased telltale sign, wouldn't it?
I relate to what this guy is saying about people treating you in a dehumanizing way.
How can we prevent society to harm children/intelligent/ sensitive people? This would be THE question
I think a relationship with God, and the fear of spending eternity separated from him is a great deterrent to harming others. This applies to everyone, whether they have empathy, remorse or not.
Oh my god the title made me think you were saying that you have ASP.. I was like mm I don't think so😂
I’d probably rate pretty low on the empathy scale. I’ve always viewed people depending on how they view me. I have my friend group set up so that I can always get someone else to deal with another friends emotional issues. Lately they’ve been trying to get me to open emotionally, I honestly didn’t know why until I was confronted by my best friend. Because earlier that month I had seen a man hit by a car who died on scene. My friends are under the impression that I’m broken up inside because of it. I honestly have no idea how to act about it. I feel like I’ve already dealt with it and the man wasn’t exactly a person people would miss. I didn’t know him. It was definitely a situation. But after a couple weeks it really just stopped crossing my mind. It bugs me because I realize I should probably be traumatized. Or upset? I can imagine the scene and I’ve really tried to feel how I think I should about it. I’ll listen to sad music, try to find photos of the guy, I try to connect but honestly I think I should talk to someone.
When I was a kid feeling was intense, overwhelming, I’d break down at just about anything. But now it’s just, oh well
I can relate. Listen, don't feel shame for not displaying what others might consider to be the appropriate emotional reaction to a tragedy. Absolutely talk to someone you can trust, doesn't even have to be a friend. Remember: we are not wrong for how we feel; we are responsible for how we behave.
It's OK I saw someone slam themselves intoo a pole with a car and I I'm so sick I was hoping a little bit that it would have exploded because I've been hit by people in cars not paying attention.
Mmmm cereal. Great talk and interesting topic 👍
I'd love to see you react to the new Dennis Rader doc. I feel like he's a true sadistic pyschopath but I could be wrong.
i was just watching this sbsk vid yesterday! I found the objects in the background to be SO psychologically charged (lol) From the horse portrait staring into my soul, the painting of the death lillies, the EXTREMELY 'vulva-like' pillow behind him? it's a freudian pot pourri. ANYWAY-love your commentary as always.
Ok, this is not supposed to be a snarky comment. I really have a difficult time grasping the concept...
If antisocial or psychopathic people don't care about other people's feelings, why would anyone assume that they are out to hurt people?
If you don't care, then the consequences of your actions don't matter to you. That can end up hurting, but could also end up pleasing, right?
If you set out to hurt someone, wouldn't that mean that you do in fact care, just in the negative and destructive way?
If you want to make and see people suffer, I would think that you need empathy to anticipate what makes your victims hurt, at least in the emotional and psychological way.
Or is that a naive view of a sadistic persons ability to understand vulnerability in other people?
I think I get where you're coming from: if there was no law forbidding you from running someone over with your car, why would you be trying to avoid it if you don't care wether the person lives or not.
Following that thought, I would assume that an antisocial or psychopathic person might not actively try to avoid any accidents and would not feel guilt or remorse if the other person doesn't survive the accident. And of course that is seen as cold blooded by the majority of people.
But for me it still leaves the question:
If the lack of legal consequences "allows" you to be a reckless driver and your mental state makes you indifferent to other people, would that result in hunting down people on the sidewalk with your car for sport? Because to me, that equates to caring about people getting hurt, not being indifferent to potentially hurting them.
Even though it is very detrimental to a society to put ones thrill-seeking "needs" above the safety of others, which seems to be the crux of antisocial behaviour, I still have a hard time assigning truly malicious intent to it...
Empathy vs sympathy
1:05 Dr. Honda, respectfully, you're out of date with the research. I've just completed an extensive literature review for University and the most recent research from the last few years does indeed suggest that people with psychopathy, dark triad, & machiavelianism are in the upper and top levels of corporations. Furthermore, and even more disturbing, several recent studies have shown that corporations are actively seeking out and hiring individuals with psychopathic traits. I'm not home right now, but later on I will update this post and cite the studies. I might even shoot you an email.
19:19 Transactional relationships are still highly problematic when it comes to dealing with ASPD/Psychopathy/Sociopathy due to their temperamental proclivities for manipulation.
I can’t help but feel Dr. Honda is really naive when it comes to the damage these people can do. This guy in the video is clearly manipulating the interviewer and the audience as well. I don’t know how Dr. Honda can’t see it.
28:19 WOW! empathy? Really?? Are you kidding me? That’s master level manipulation to put someone at ease.
45:30 Another telltale sign of ASPD, they literally tell you how they're manipulating you by describing how they've done it in the past. They use it against you later on when you finally catch them lying/cheating/manipulating you; "It's your own fault because you should have known I would do it because I've told you I've done it to other people."
Also, he's clearly lying about not being proud of it. I can't understand for the life of me how Dr. Honda cannot see what is happening, and it's rather disturbing.
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100% my observation also.
Thank you! This is exactly why I watch Dr. Honda sparingly. It really bothers me how he has an awful tendency to downplay serious problems that have a massive impact on most people. Or how he peddles misinformation sometimes. I dunno, maybe it's his demeanor but when he talks about this sort've stuff it's like in a very nonchalant matter of fact sorta way. Where there's no leeway in anything that he says, like no room for error or something. And he has this sort've know-it-all kind of attitude that rubs me the wrong way. Thanks for backing up what you said with researched facts and data.
Honda seems to be biased/incompetent or has the same narcissistic agenda ASPD Joseph in the interview has: serving the masses hungry for tales of woe and victimhood. Poor ASPD ppl. Such a sad bunch with so little luck in life, let us all empathize. Wtf?!
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. I think it's important to remember that this individual is only 19 years old. I have ASPD and was almost just like him when I was younger. I recall seeing other people as "human beings" and I was different/above them.
Now that I'm older and have met with an incredible amount of kind, patient, and understanding people, I've learned how to display empathy, kind, and care for others. It will never be in a "real" sense because I don't feel the emotions but I've been taught and now understand the concepts. I now understand what it means to hurt someone else and I have grown A LOT from my 19 year old self.
I'm not saying that any of my actions were justified or that no one suffered. But we have to recognize that Dr. Honda is a therapist and his job is to empathize and help people. The first step to helping people is to truly understand them. It's people like him who helped change me. This example of providing a safe and judgment free space, allowed me to be open and want to learn why the things I did were harmful. And this isn't to say that YOU need to change or have empathy for these people, because that would be a huge ask for anyone. But to say that Dr. Honda is naive because he does is a stretch in my opinion.
Just because I have ASPD, doesn't make me a bad person. Just because I did bad things, doesn't make me a bad person. It is just one part of me. A part that I have hated and tried to hide for years until now. It controls how I think but I've also learned how to use it and shift my thinking to benefit myself and people as well.
The therapist misses the very first point. What the guy in the video meant was that ASPD will naturally be underrecognized because these people have no incentive to reveal this about themselves (they actually have an incentive to hide it). Sharing that you have dyslexia will get you sympathy (ie. "You're brave for struggling with dyslexia"). ASPD is a condition where you are basically not a human being: you have low empathy, you manipulate people, you are seen as evil. This will not garner support and sympathy from people (ie. "You're brave for being a piece of sh*t" of a human being" is unlikely).
What do you think are the chances that he’s faking?
He’s taking way too much pleasure in describing himself as special and basking in the perceived special view from his audience. Maybe narcissism is a part of it all, I know I’m not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but….really, how many of the things he described are that far outside of normal people’s experiences? Who hasn’t been callous towards others? Who hasn’t figured out the benefits of reciprocity on an intellectual level, if we sometimes forget them on an empathetic level at times? Who hasn’t taken revenge in an excessive way? Who hasn’t felt alienated from the rest of society by sudden acts of violence within or toward the family unit?
Like, the thing at the beginning: he did something really “bad” to somebody who “deserved it” one time…(“Well, was it illegal?” No. “Well, did you hurt them physically?” No.)…why not just say what you did exactly? Why be so vague? He strikes me strongly as an edgelord. Just likes being edgy. Wants everybody to think he could be dangerous, but he’s not, or at least no more than any other random human.
Is there something I’m missing? Maybe I need to be a lot more careful out there in the world, if everybody agrees this guy’s a genuine psychopath and I’m just still not seeing it.
For the record, there have been one or two people I’ve interacted with throughout my life who I really did pick up that something wasn’t right with them and that they were probably 90% likely to be a psychopath/antisocial. They never bragged about being psychopaths or broadcast it for the world to see, they just interacted with people in callous and dysfunctional ways (leading to occasional blowups both with clients and the occasional coworker, as well as a cold reputation from other clients), manipulated everyone around them through increasingly callous jokes and ostentatious displays of wealth, in one case one of them had a surprisingly influential online identity with community built up around him but where nobody knew who exactly he was (I’m 99% sure I figured out it was him; doubt any others ever did), cheated on his wife who he kept pliant with an expensive apartment, a Porsche, mysterious money flows, probably from the website because we worked the same job and I certainly wasn’t earning that much, an overflowing safe full of money, bank accounts, crypto winnings, etc. Hints of sexual sadism and connected depravities with prostitutes both male and female as well as other married women. Just the whole nine yards. I’m not getting anything even approaching any of that from this kid in the video. I see a lot of telling, not a lot of showing.
So, Dr. Honda, if you see this comment, I’m not making an assertion (not qualified to), but I would just ask you: In your opinion, is it possible, and if so, what is the likelihood, that this kid is faking? Or do you think he’s actually presenting as a perfect textbook case of antisocial and I’m way off base here? Would be fascinated to hear, either way.
i STRONGLY got the same vibe too tbh, it seemed very performative and not very genuine.. like he was purposefully trying really hard to seem like a "psychopath"
Interesting point! I was diagnosed autistic and I must say that I often perceived myself as different because I couldn't relate to others and also because other people often told me I'm different or excluded me. Recently, I got accused of "wanting to be special", so maybe I give off this vibe, I don't know. Anyway, I believe that this (s.o. seeming like they "want" to be special) comes with anhedonia and low (or even very high) empathy. How should I know that my experiences are overall not special and very human if I can't relate, feel less empathy or nothing at all? Due to my friends, who function "normally" I slowly learn that my experiences aren't that special but that there are reasons why I am sometimes different, if that makes sense. I think I was also veery vague as a teen because I wasn't able to describe my feelings at all. I never tried to be mysterious but I probably looked like it, when in reality I maybe was afraid of being perceived a certain way or I even was afraid of myself or my thoughts. I also have OCD, which comes with intrusive, sometimes harmful, egodystonic (= they are not mine and are against my personality) thoughts, which I will ALWAYS talk about in a vague way because I want to protect my friends and talk about it to my therapist. They are just thoughts but the can feel so bad and terrifying. I bet that he has similar things going and can't describe them better than this or simply doesn't want to. But then I guess it would be better to just communicate that and be transparant when interviewed. Maybe that lack of transparancy or "real" openness is what is off-putting? Because I kinda felt the same after watching him talk. Would've been interesting to hear Dr. Honda's thoughts about it, as a lot of people felt the same
Yeah this dude is full of shit and is having some sort of masturbatory exhibition of his perception of his intelligence and cunning.
I agree. He doesn't strike me as intimidating, aspd etc at all. I just get neck beard edge lord who wants to seem like a misunderstood bad boy vibes.
@@BillyBob-jg1gq 100%
The gentleman speaking seems like he’s performing a little. He’s hard to trust. The person speaking with him conducts these interviews a lot, and I think he has good intentions. I like that he tries to shed light on a variety of disabilities and diagnoses, and educations young people about them. I would have assumed that his diagnosis was verified in some way, considering the huge following and that the demographic of his following is very young. But this particular interview felt really off to me.
Yeah that's what masking is bravo
you should react to kanika batra
Yes
I never understood why Machiavelli got associated with planning and scheming? When I read "The Prince" I saw it as a work of realism. A guy being real and straight forward about the realities of his era. It's actually one of my favorite historical works 😊
The Prince was satire that got him in a lot of trouble with the authorities
@@popejaimie And how do you know this? That is was Satire. (Just curious lol.) My husband is also fan of his and from Italy and he never mentioned anything of this to me! 😂 We named one of our kids Niccolo'. lol
@@Gokce-Aysun I guess technically it's a matter of debate, but if you look at his life and how he lived it and compare it to the book, he doesn't seem like a guy who would believe what he wrote in that. IIRC anyway.
@@popejaimie ofc he wouldn’t seem like that because he’d give off a different appearance just like the prince is supposed to seem like a good guy to his ppl while doing bad stuff in power games.
A misunderstood work
I'm glad you're covering this video. I like the SBSK channel, however some of the people who are given a platform to speak on there are very triggering. It feels manipulative when they talk, and I don't think that they should be given access to an audience of millions of people
May I ask which videos or types of interviewees? I’m somewhat familiar with the channel so I have seen some videos but not many. I just found this comment interesting and wanted to know more. No harm or snark meant 😊
@@ellemarr7234 I didn't take it in a bad way, he has also interviewed someone who was a diagnosed narcissist and it was chilling to watch, I couldn't finish it
@@DarthFurie Ah, completely understood!
i respectfully disagree (and i honestly don't mean to attack you). i absolutely understand that some of these may be triggering but at the end of the day, title tells you what it's about. however, even if you aren't prepared to empathise with these people (which i think is fine!) i think it's important for the rest of us to get some insight into the way they think. Personally for me, as someone who was on the receiving end of a narcissist, it was extremely valuable to have one actually sit down and explain what goes on in their head. Things like what this guys said "It's not personal" - to some of us it can be really important to hear that.
they also may be a good way for people to recognise similar behaviour around them that they didn't realise was actually pathological.
@@DarthFurie which video? I know that he's interviewed psychopaths and sociopaths, but can't find the one you're referring to.
He reminds me of House. From the series. He's in character, I think.
Lindsay Paulino is your Brazilian doppelgänger / twin!! Someone say that I’m not going crazy😂 couldn’t watch the video without thinking about!!!
please react to more videos from this channel!
Will you do a video with asd vs aspd and how the two can be confused.
I LOVE SBSK!!
I would say that psychology is patterns of human behavior
... What.
AWWW Kirk thinking about his wife and tearing up :')))
Hello, I have been looking for the original video for ages, but can't find it. Does anyone has the link? Thanks.
is there a link to this guys interview? watched it some time ago, and favorited it, but can't find it now. was it deleted?
I also can't find it, interesting 🤔
ASPD people are rare. You don't want to know someone with this even if they are, "High functioning."
Yup
3% of the population ain’t rare 😆
Original interview video is still on SBSK Facebook page. Not anymore on UA-cam for some reason
is it OK to lay in bed depressed even after i get dressed and have coffee
I feel that
Yeah. It's fine
How do you feel about using hallucinogens to try to help people develop empathy?
I wouldn't suggest it. I have problematic diagnosis and ketamine makes me violent. THC on the other hand helps me sleep at night amd reduces morning time anxiety when I wake up. I would not suggest drugs for ASP because they willi misuse the medications. The best way to teach empathy is animal therapy. That is how I taught myself more empathy. I work with plants and animals in my spare time, in healthy pro social ways.
@@kimberlywalker_ ketamine is more of an anesthetic; hallucinogens are pailocyin, mescaline, whatever is in ayahuasca, and LSD. There have already been studies demonstrating the effect, and they're also starting to be used for depression. Also, I would be reluctant to put an animal in the care of someone who struggles with empathy, at least until they've made progress with with some other therapy.
@@justinwatson1510 Okay... So you know more than a person with this diagnosis who has tried multiple types of therapies and medications and treatments along with every illegal and legal drug you can think of.... Would you like to continue? Would you like to keep telling me how it's smart to give me drugs that make me and others violent..
@@justinwatson1510 I'm blocking you. Because the know it all tone literally made me want to hurt you. Do better. Scary people exist. And we're in your town in neighborhood too. Stop testing your luck.
@@kimberlywalker_ I have studied neuropharmacology and I can also read, which is why I responded the way I did. I would tell you to get help, but it sounds like you know you need it. I spent over a decade of my life married to a malignant narcissist and was raised by a very ill parent with extreme mood swings, so you're not going to scare me and I'm not sure why you're trying to. Just make sure you stay out of arms reach and make sure I won't be able to catch you if you try anything, and don't forget that concealed carry is perfectly legal in most of the United States.
"it was considered unethical but I did it, I'm totally normal"
Did Chris (SBSK) take this video down? I looked on the Special Books by Special Kids channel and could not find it.
how is aspd treated with what kind of medicine?
One of my exes, turned out to be a sadistic malignant narcissist. Lived with him in one room, had to sleep next to him on the floor, and was so scared one day I packed my stuff and fleed for my life. He'd flip out under unexpected circumstances and turn violent. Could never anticipate what would trigger him, and I feared he'd harm me every second of every day I was with him, in a confined place far away in his hometown.
Im lucky to have got out of it unharmed. As an altruistic, highly empathic and positive person, I've been equipped with the knowledge of the other side of the coin; the darker side of humanity, through my acquaintance with him.
And for that I'm grateful.
That said, I do feel that this video downplays how cruel and harmful they can be.
If you suspect you're entangled with one of these kinds, my advice to you is, don't think twice;don't walk... run!
Just don't take the risk as they suck you in and keep you there and you'll be subjected to all kinds of traumas and abuse.
It didn't to me as I got discarded early enough (1 year in), and I stonewalled him for good. Meaning I cut off all means of access to me.
It worked.
Best wishes to all. :)
can you differentiate between autism and aspd? the way you describe it without any of the negative drawbacks suggests autism over aspd. it would almost seem like aspd specifically requires bad behavior
the only similarity between this and autism spectrum disorder (I will talk here about the high functioning ones) is the problem with reading other people and their emotions and knowing how to adequately react. people with ASD feel emotions (sometimes extremely keenly) and know the difference between right and wrong etc. The reason some people might doubt that is because they experience these things differently and have a hard time connecting with neurotypical people. Just a fairly simplistic example would be a person with ASD saying something you think is extremely insensitive or inappropriate, because to them it seems fine. But they would be upset at seeing you upset. Conversely, they might get hurt/upset by something you say that seems normal to you because to them it comes off completely differently. Idk if this helps any. there are obviously exceptions to my simplistic explanation but i hope it somewhat casts the light on why these two things are vastly different.
why don't you educate yourself with the manual or sth... 🤷🏽♂️
I may not, but I could.
Empathy for me is known but not necessary.
I grew up around someone who enjoyed destroying my life by outright lying and manipulating my household so idk. He started doing it immediately after moving in when he dicovered I would defend my mum by saying it was wrong for him to say little things to degrade her self esteem. Over the years the abuse towards her became gradually more extreme. It appeared v calculated. Yea it fricked me up
Does anyone have a link to the original yt video?
I think the solution should be with providing help to family, that parents can apply for adult child for special centres where they can be accepted for work or training, because they understand how the other people look at them, and remain them they are not normal and it is painful for them, they become aggressive, I saw very good British video about how they solve this problem with different ages adults, just do extra care about them
I keep getting ads from Matt Walsh and its driving me nuts espacially on your videos when I'm pretty sure you dont agree at all with that man. its like... gross marketing xD ANyway. Couldnt wait for your comments on this scene haha EDIT : this comment was for love is blind video but youtube changed it ahah oups
46:00 I feel like that's just becuase online you have no face so the people with ASPD who IRL are "normal" can feel more free online.
When I was younger I decided for myself that I would be fair unlike my parents. I have held to it but yes if someone tries to screw me over I will get them angry and set them up to ruin their lives. Got evicted because landlord was angry, he didn;t follow the rules though (didn't give enough time on the eviction and did not involve the courts) and so now i'm suing him and will attempt to gain control of his building if punitive damages are high enough. I've never tried to punish someone socially.. I usually want them to remember forever this is why you lost everything. Was going to file complaints and get others to file complaints on this garbage Electrician who ripped me and a few others off but he had a stroke and crashed his van. We just counted it as a win and ignored it.
I just watched this video yesterday. I do wonder about people with mental disorders of this type because, i would think, they are hyper aware and may lie only to preserve themselves from possible harm. I have that anxiety myself, not to tell anyone, even a therapist, the ugly truth
where can I find this original video?
Where can i find the original interview?
If you haven't already, can you please clip out and post a short of the difference on Anti vs A social and why choosing solitude vs being social is NOT antisocial so I can POST IT EVERYWHERE????? Please. Lmaooo
UA-cam let's you clip videos on your own now.
I suspect I am on the anti-social spectrum and I would never harm anyone intentionally and I do have a very diminished capacity for empathy. But I am very close with my children and I have very defined morals. My brother and I took an ancestry DNA test and they mentioned this diminished empathy as a trait we have. We did not have a perfect childhood, but our childhood was not very bad, our parents loved us and tried to take care of us the best they could. We remember a normal childhood (as far as we can remember). I suspect if I had a really bad childhood though and if I was severely abused it could have triggered something bad for me and/or my brother. I do have Schizoid traits though. And I really can't wait for you to talk about Schizoid. Because people like us do not like to go out and go to doctors are stuff like that. I relate to this guy only with not being affected by how others feel or think about me. Also I can never read room even if my life depended on it (on the rare cases I am around people I do not know well.) I also tend to speak before I think about the feelings of others. And I often do not realize when I say hurtful things until someone spells it out for me. But I will feel bad afterwards. I think I feel bad. Because I do not want to make someone feel bad. I am especially more aware around my kids. I feel like they are a piece of me. So I think having my kids triggered something good in me. I never really felt deep emotions before having my own child. I can not explain it. Only that it feels like a miracle. 🙂 Maybe it is the way that they love me unconditionally and how I love them unconditionally. Also, I feel like I was always aware that having a child would do that to me and I always wanted to have children. Which may not be typical I guess. But that has been true for me.
Oh geez. The "I love you stuff." I can only relate to that with my kids. I only feel happy when they tell me they love me. Not anyone else. I don't hate it, but I do not feel anything. I feel like actions speak louder than words. My husband can not tell me he loves me and move me. He has to be nice to me and do stuff for me. Like the dishes. Or let me sleep in. Is that bad? 🤭
What's it called when you are not anti-social or pro-social? What if you just do not care either way?
@@Gokce-Aysun I’m not sure, dear! Have you considered therapy? It definitely sounds like a mix of symptoms, and a professional could help you sort it all out. But yes, people can be on that aspd spectrum and not harm others. I wish you luck in finding it all out❤
@@ambriaashley3383 I have seen only two therapist in my entire adult life and I am 43. The longest I was seeing one was a couple of months and this was online therapy. I have a huge problem just going to a therapist, and a lot of places. Also all therapist try to treat me for depression right off the back and anti depressants do not work on me at all. It's a waste of time to put me on anti-depressants. I wish they would believe me when I tell them that is not the issue. Because it wastes money and time and I do not like being in therapy to begin with. Nothing against people. I just do not like socializing. (As in talking and hanging out.)
@@Gokce-Aysun I may be totally off base here but have you ever considered that you may be on the spectrum? I only say this because some of the things you struggle with like not knowing if you’re offending people, not liking socializing and going out, getting feedback about being seemingly cold or aloof, it just made me wonder. You certainly seem to have a lot of self awareness and to genuinely care about how your anti social traits may impact others which I think speaks positively about your character. I also think it’s interesting that having children brought out special deep feelings of love you hadn’t previously experienced. I would have surmised part of that may be hormonal since we know hormones are extremely powerful emotional drivers, especially during and after pregnancy. But it sounds like it’s definitely more than that and your kids are not babies anymore anyway.
I have a question and a suggestion for doing this kind of video. Why do you refer to it as “suffering from ___”. I wouldn’t say that he is suffering from antisocial and i don’t think its fair to assume people’s diagnosis is causing them to suffer. My suggestion is that it would be beneficial to watch a video that you’re reacting to in full before commentating, like sped up, so that you’re not interrupting their incomplete thought with commentary that isn’t relevant to what they’re saying. For example when Chris gave the example about his friend cheating, you assumed that he was trying to diagnose his friend with antisocial, but he was really just asking if Joseph thought those people knew he was lying. Other than that, great video :)
i think it's fair that anything that makes you struggle w not getting in trouble can be summarized as suffering lol
for context i've been told i'm probably aspd. i can't help but smirk at those semantics. aspd definitely suffer in a lot of ways
It makes me nervous how people are labelled "ableist" when taking caution with people who are diagnosed with aspd. This personality set isn't comparable to mental illnesses like depression and schizophrenia. It's a pattern of criminality and/or harm to others, and the internal working model aligns with the behaviour. So there will only be justifications and excuses, like a child. Never accountability. Never self growth. This is a disorder that is known to cause immeasurable harm to society. That's quite literally what Antisocial/sociopath means. Social disease.
But is aspd always, 100% associated with criminality? Or can you have it and not commit any violent crime?
Further, I’m considering the fact that some aspd people can be in therapy, or have gone to jail and can be somewhat rehabilitated. If someone has served their time for the crime they did, and are actively working to improve themselves, we should remain cautious around them absolutely -- but can we say those people are showing no accountability or self growth? Some of them absolutely do. Not everyone with aspd harms others, there is a higher likelihood yes, but mental illness is very complicated.
@@ambriaashley3383 DSM5 diagnostic requirement for ASPD: Disregard for and violation of the rights of others.
To be diagnosed with aspd you have to have either harmed others or committed crimes, repeatedly over many years. Without regard or empathy for others (so its not just impulsivity, they do not give a damn about people). It's a nice thought that some of them may be trying to get better, but in reality the nature of aspd doesn't typically lead people in that direction. It has a very low treatment outcome. In fact there is no established treatment for ASPD.
So yeah, they either have well established criminal behaviour, or are toxic and abusive. typically both.
It's not ableist to set boundaries for yourself. It is, however, completely ableist to paint every individual that has aspd as a criminal/abuser.
@@TattedTentacle I suggest you look up what Antisocial means, and what it means to have an antisocial personality.
That's like saying it's ableist to paint everyone with pedophilic disorder as harmful to children. You can be diagnosed without ever having harmed a child. But is it rational or responsible to not assume potential harm when it comes to these types of people?
If that's ableism, I'm happily ableist.
@@e_i_e_i_bro spot on! Words like ableist are wielded like weapons to shame people into conforming to whatever ideals or agenda the shamer has. People seem to have lost the ability to discern and make up their own mind. Sad.
He was lying for most of the video Imo . He was just saying things that would be more accepted vs the actual truth
Joseph's affect and attitude during the interview bothers me because he seems smug or arrogant. The statements he makes don't bother me, the way he says them and/or his phrasing does. He often uses phrases like, "to be honest" or "if I can be blunt" that make me skeptical of how truthful he's actually being. He also often takes long pauses after being asked a question and it makes his answers seem less sincere and truthful as well. There was another gentleman with ASPD that did an interview with SBSK that I found very interesting and his attitude was completely different. He stated things with a matter of fact tone, as if to explain, "this is my behavior, this is why I act the way I do." When asked about outside perspectives on his diagnosis and behavior, he often spoke as if it was inconsequential. I am sharing my perspective on this for feedback, not in an effort to invalidate Joseph's experiences. I'd be interested to hear his perspective on my opinion as he does seem introspective. I can tell he often considers outside perspective when commenting on his behavior or diagnosis