Very thorough/clear demonstration to enhance understanding body/wrist/hand motions for each serve effect. However, a lot of peiple don't explore/learn how rubbers/blades (or different combinations of them which is the most intriguing part) can vary ball spin/speed. Equipment plays a very vital part for the game, on top of basic skills/knowledge. Table tennis is a very complicated/serious game (to play properly), vastly different from what people see it as Ping Pong. Now waiting for you to illustrate how to counter your magnificinet seven serves. Picked up some good points here, thanks and congratsl
As a medium level player I can do the tomahawk very well, alternating backspin, sidespin, and topspin, but I absolutely can't do the reverse pendulum. That's the most advanced serve. The backhand serve is also actually quite easy, but I find it useless because the spin and control tends to be much more with forehand
Excellent in demonstration and simplicity in language. Is it possible in some future video to correlate each of these Services to the top players who have perfected these Services and used them in Tournaments AND what were the opponents returns to counter such Services(in slow motion). Thanks & Regards.
Hi. interesting presentation.Thank you, guys. However maybe now there should be a follow up with explanation about produced with each serve spin and how to control intensity of this spin. Maybe a bit more advanced stuff, but it would show the tactical ideas behind each type of the serve.
Ich bin dabei! Genau nach sowas hab ich gesucht! Die originalen Zahlen von meinem Winmau Blade 5 sind schon gresig! Mir gefallen die Farben irgendwie alle. Mal was anderes wäre der grüne (did I mention green is my favourite colour? 😜). Wird sofort bestellt, oder…neee, erstmal warten. Vielleicht gewinn ich ja…
Great video tutorial, very helpful indeed are the slo mo's. It shows exactly in which height you have to hit the ball and how far from the net (on your side) it should be placed. One remark: Unfortunately (and according to the international rules), the left arm is supposed to be completely left out in the space between ball and net I think. So the referee might call this as a point against you (after warning). Am I right?
what is that octoganal racket? ive never seen that before. But overall thank you for the amazing serving tips, love the channel, keep up the amazing work.
It's the Stiga Cybershape (I assume carbon) blade. It's just a newer blade that has been out for about 2 years and that has allegedly some benefits due to its different weight distribution created by the shape
playing with a cyber bat is like driving a Ferrari through a very poor village. The villagers will smile, of course, but what they will think is a different matter. Nice video nevertheless. A definite like! 😀
bonne video pour la technique sur ces services par contre il manque les dangers de chacun des services avec exemple de retour gagnant car on ne voit que des retours rates
Do you have to serve with a first bounce on your side? I recall when I played years ago, I would serve with a bounce on my side and a hit over to the other side.
@@berryesseen I know some players who really love the blade. I find it a little heavy to use. It hasn't taken over in pro table tennis, so I suspect there isn't any significant advantage.
The ball falling slightly towards you is accepted if it's not too much. From what i understand you should not throw it front to back (away from the table).
The overview is greatly appreciated. However, the serves are illegal. 1. The serves are hidden by either his arm or his body or both. 2. His left hand goes below the table during the serve. 3. The serves are not tossed from the palm of his hand. Again, the information is appreciated. I would just like to see coaches adhering to the rules also. Many times people are so focused on winning. As a result, the rules become secondary which in turn can lead to the breakdown of sportsmanship. Have you ever called out someone on their serves? Man, that can quickly become a heated situation...
Hi, I have been talking to the developer of the game Eleven about the toss of the ball. The rules in Table tennis say that you have to toss the ball at least 16 cm. That is not much if you ask me. All your serves in your videos are ten times that I would recon. Can you make a video where you only throw the ball 16 cm just to see how easy it is to think that it is an illegal serve? I have played with a guy in Eleven and his tosses where almost not existent, but the logs show that he did toss the ball 16 cm. Very frustrating.
I would smash those spins so easy. My opponent wouldn’t dare to try twice. The spin causes the ball to hang in the air longer and I could produce a very powerful return. Easy point to score.
There are not effective serves. There are service return errors. If oponent is focused will return all. I didn't care about spin more focus on the speed. Faster serves return slower. Slower serves return faster.
@@8Photoman_unfortunately that's the attitude which creates nightmares for players first entering International matches when the ITTF service rules are enforced and many players are defaulted....... teach the correct service rule requirements early until its automated, otherwise players should just register for Ping Ping events instead of Table Tennis😂😂
@@8Photoman_my group and friends and I are all casuals and call each other out on it, lol. That said, I don't think it made a difference for the purpose of this video. I don't see him manipulating the ball with his fingers. It was probably for ease of demonstration
Jetzt noch legale Aufschläge machen, dann ist das Video mit den Erklärngen gut. Vielfach nicht aus der flachen Hand oder der Ball im Flug durch Kopf/Geischt verdeckt, daher vielfach nicht legal. Regeln sind nun mal Regeln. "Es sagt da eh keiner was!" ist kein Argument; erst Recht nicht als Vorbild-Lern-Video.
#TomLodziak All of the pendulum serves are illegal. Why? Because the rules clearly state that the free arm must be removed immediately from the space between the ball and the net as soon as the ball is projected upwards and Ferenc is clearly not doing that. And yes, I am a qualified umpire, so please don't teach people illegal serves.
So that’s an interesting point. The rule you refer to is this one… 2.6.5 - “As soon as the ball has been projected, the server’s free arm and hand shall be removed from the space between the ball and the net.” This rule was presumably put in place to prevent players from covering the contact of the ball (also addressed in rule 2.6.4). However for some service actions, particularly the pendulum serve, it’s physically quite difficult to move your free arm out of the way as soon as the ball is projected. So most people serve exactly the same as Ferenc. You toss the ball up, bring the free arm back down and then the arm moves out of the way as you rotate into the serve. Maybe Ferenc could move his free arm away a little sooner, but in reality, it’s unlikely ever to be called by an umpire. The ball is visible at all times, so he is gaining no advantage whatsoever. Ferenc has played a lot of competitive matches over the years with qualified umpires and never been called for violating this rule.
@@TomLodziakI think your reply has some credibilty Tom but for sure Ferenc could move his free arm away much quicker. Depending where the receiver is placed, there are positions where they couldn't see the ball during Ferenc's serve. Unfortunately umpires are not consistent enforcing this rule and I wish the ITTF would either amend the rule or take steps to enforce it consistently. If I were umpiring a match where a player was serving in such a fashion I would warn them and then penslise them if it continued. One of the service rules is that the server had the responsibility to serve in such a way to make it clear to the umpire that he/she is serving legally i.e. it cannot be on the borderline of legal versus illegal. Apart from the legality of Ferenc's serve, the serves he demonstrates are useful for the watcher.
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These are timings for each serve...
0:50 Pendulum serve
2:49 Reserve pendulum serve
4:53 Backspin serve
6:50 No spin serve
9:04 Hook serve
11:16 Tomahawk serve
13:10 Backhand serve
Excelent video for servers 😮❤🏓 thanks 👍
Yes please the returns
Great video. Can we also look at how to return each best
The magnificent 7....I would say!!!!! The best coaching on serves by an amazing coach. Many, many thanks for this, Tom!!!!
Very thorough/clear demonstration to enhance understanding body/wrist/hand motions for each serve effect. However, a lot of peiple don't explore/learn how rubbers/blades (or different combinations of them which is the most intriguing part) can vary ball spin/speed. Equipment plays a very vital part for the game, on top of basic skills/knowledge. Table tennis is a very complicated/serious game (to play properly), vastly different from what people see it as Ping Pong. Now waiting for you to illustrate how to counter your magnificinet seven serves. Picked up some good points here, thanks and congratsl
The best video on serves...very well produced..covering all aspects of each serve...do not have to look further to get mastery on basic TT serves
Tom your videos really help learning the Game. Thank you
Thanks!
Thank you! Hope you video has been useful for your game.
Thanks for this very helpful serving tutorial from Ferenc! The Tomahawk and Backhand serve seem like the most advanced ones.
As a medium level player I can do the tomahawk very well, alternating backspin, sidespin, and topspin, but I absolutely can't do the reverse pendulum. That's the most advanced serve. The backhand serve is also actually quite easy, but I find it useless because the spin and control tends to be much more with forehand
This video is a must-watch for anyone looking to up their serving game. 👏🏓
Very helpfull in slow motion ! Thank you !
Tom your vedios help me in my competitions thanks alot may God bless
Thanks for this great tutorial. I'll put in practice during my training session to improve my serves. 😊
Thanks for your step to step teaching. Very nice serve.
Absolutely fantastic video. Look forward to rolling this one out to all the students at Danbury.
Excellent in demonstration and simplicity in language. Is it possible in some future video to correlate each of these Services to the top players who have perfected these Services and used them in Tournaments AND what were the opponents returns to counter such Services(in slow motion).
Thanks & Regards.
Wow 🤩…another amazing service video !!! Thanks you ❤
Veliko hvala na opisu servisa žlveo sto godina
Amazing table tennis serves.. very effective
Excellent video. Thank you very much for sharing it. I need to work on all of these services. Good job!
Well done lesson, clear English and hello from UA
Another outstanding video Tom! Thank you for doing this for us!
Just what I was looking for, Great Video!
very nice basic videos, very useful
Thanks for sharing this video 🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏼
Hi. interesting presentation.Thank you, guys. However maybe now there should be a follow up with explanation about produced with each serve spin and how to control intensity of this spin. Maybe a bit more advanced stuff, but it would show the tactical ideas behind each type of the serve.
Thanks Help me alot
Thanks for this , Keep Updating ! Lots of support to you 🎉
Very nice ,these videos are very useful ,i appriciate
Love this video, thank you so much Tom and Ferenc. Time to up my game! 🏓🏓
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for this video..
reserve pendulum my favorite from these all serves 😎
Very good serves
Please explain what type and amount of spin they have. For example, First 2 have topspins?
Perfect Video again!
Super Great Videos 👌🙏❤️
love it..thanks
Very helpful, tnx!😊
Ich bin dabei! Genau nach sowas hab ich gesucht! Die originalen Zahlen von meinem Winmau Blade 5 sind schon gresig! Mir gefallen die Farben irgendwie alle. Mal was anderes wäre der grüne (did I mention green is my favourite colour? 😜). Wird sofort bestellt, oder…neee, erstmal warten. Vielleicht gewinn ich ja…
Great video tutorial, very helpful indeed are the slo mo's. It shows exactly in which height you have to hit the ball and how far from the net (on your side) it should be placed.
One remark: Unfortunately (and according to the international rules), the left arm is supposed to be completely left out in the space between ball and net I think. So the referee might call this as a point against you (after warning). Am I right?
Did you know that your videos help me a lot? Thank you very much❤😊
what is that octoganal racket? ive never seen that before. But overall thank you for the amazing serving tips, love the channel, keep up the amazing work.
It's the Stiga Cybershape (I assume carbon) blade. It's just a newer blade that has been out for about 2 years and that has allegedly some benefits due to its different weight distribution created by the shape
@@jeffvango6754 They do a wooden one as well, that's the one I would go for.
Thank you Ted Mosby!
Most excellent.
Mantaab.. Trimakasih👍🏻👀
Great video, what kind of paddle are you using
playing with a cyber bat is like driving a Ferrari through a very poor village. The villagers will smile, of course, but what they will think is a different matter. Nice video nevertheless. A definite like! 😀
Mantap tutorialnya 👍🙏
Can I play a shot/return from the side of the table? Pls confiem
Next video: how to return these serves because Tom didn't read the spin at all :D
I thought the same
I felt it's a bit scripted to miss the serve... to create a dramatic effect 😂
Looks like it worked. Good video ❤.
But a video on how to return will be very helpful... @tomloziak
Are my acting skills that bad?
@@TomLodziak no no... have seen you take these serves with ease!
do you like mixing up the 7 serves during a match or do you tend to keep hitting the same serve as long it continues to give your opponent trouble?
great video
Which part of the bat has the spin to it
Very interesting, thank you ! On the other hand, the opponent who always misses the return of serve on purpose is a bit silly 🙂
Nice content )
Is he serving on his palm?
Great
I like trying all these variations. Find the one my opponent hates and use that most often. If they get all these back, hit them with the lollipop😂
Том, привет! Что-то давно тебя не было видно
bonne video pour la technique sur ces services par contre il manque les dangers de chacun des services avec exemple de retour gagnant car on ne voit que des retours rates
Tack❤
Total agree, magnificent! Thank you!
Do you have to serve with a first bounce on your side? I recall when I played years ago, I would serve with a bounce on my side and a hit over to the other side.
The ball has to touch the bat then your side of the table then the other side in that order
good tutorial, but what about the grip? having a serve grip adds so much more spin on these serves
Nice video :-)
Super!
Is octagon table tennis bat legal?
Yes, it has been used in international play for a couple of years now. It's a STIGA Cybershape blade.
@@TomLodziak Thanks for the answer. I wonder if there is any significant advantage of octagonal bats or when, or is it just display?
@@berryesseen I know some players who really love the blade. I find it a little heavy to use. It hasn't taken over in pro table tennis, so I suspect there isn't any significant advantage.
It appears that you don’t toss the ball in the air straight, but it curves toward you. Is that just the camera angle.
The ball falling slightly towards you is accepted if it's not too much. From what i understand you should not throw it front to back (away from the table).
The overview is greatly appreciated. However, the serves are illegal.
1. The serves are hidden by either his arm or his body or both.
2. His left hand goes below the table during the serve.
3. The serves are not tossed from the palm of his hand.
Again, the information is appreciated. I would just like to see coaches adhering to the rules also. Many times people are so focused on winning. As a result, the rules become secondary which in turn can lead to the breakdown of sportsmanship. Have you ever called out someone on their serves? Man, that can quickly become a heated situation...
You will if I'm umpiring - we've been told to clamp down on it.
Hi, I have been talking to the developer of the game Eleven about the toss of the ball. The rules in Table tennis say that you have to toss the ball at least 16 cm. That is not much if you ask me. All your serves in your videos are ten times that I would recon. Can you make a video where you only throw the ball 16 cm just to see how easy it is to think that it is an illegal serve? I have played with a guy in Eleven and his tosses where almost not existent, but the logs show that he did toss the ball 16 cm. Very frustrating.
Is illegal use fingers in a serve
and what about the other arm ?
I usually use last two serves
I would smash those spins so easy. My opponent wouldn’t dare to try twice. The spin causes the ball to hang in the air longer and I could produce a very powerful return. Easy point to score.
😂😂
As u said top spin for all… so how this will work back spin ghost serve… trying but not working
Shame every serve is a fault. Ball held with thumb in cupped hand, not in flat palm. ;)
czy jak w tenisie stołowym nie trafie w połowe przyciwnika a on odbije paletką i nie trafi to dla kogo jest punkt
Dear friend i m from srilanka ,can you get me two racket offf high spin and speed
Thanks to Tom Lodzik and Ferenc Horvath for the 7 different serves with explanations.
Tomahawk serves always screw me up... can never guess if top or back spin is coming...
❤❤❤
Thanks for the video. I’m bad now but I want to be the best I can and win some prizes if possible :)
Don't put the ball on your fingers when serving instead put the ball on the center of the hand😂😂
Good luck
He's also got a bat with redicous rubber
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the best serve is the one you make up on your own so that most opponents dont know it
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Please add Turkish subtitles to your videos
There are not effective serves. There are service return errors. If oponent is focused will return all. I didn't care about spin more focus on the speed. Faster serves return slower. Slower serves return faster.
Me playing with my phone and realized it was wrong 😅
The server is serving illegally in many instances - not from the flat of the hand.
Literally nobody cares you are never going to get called on that
@@8Photoman_unfortunately that's the attitude which creates nightmares for players first entering International matches when the ITTF service rules are enforced and many players are defaulted....... teach the correct service rule requirements early until its automated, otherwise players should just register for Ping Ping events instead of Table Tennis😂😂
@@8Photoman_my group and friends and I are all casuals and call each other out on it, lol. That said, I don't think it made a difference for the purpose of this video. I don't see him manipulating the ball with his fingers. It was probably for ease of demonstration
Hmm he serves with ball on fingers, needs to be in palm
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Jetzt noch legale Aufschläge machen, dann ist das Video mit den Erklärngen gut. Vielfach nicht aus der flachen Hand oder der Ball im Flug durch Kopf/Geischt verdeckt, daher vielfach nicht legal. Regeln sind nun mal Regeln. "Es sagt da eh keiner was!" ist kein Argument; erst Recht nicht als Vorbild-Lern-Video.
Pendulum serve- fault! Ball is resting at the fingers. Lol
#TomLodziak All of the pendulum serves are illegal. Why? Because the rules clearly state that the free arm must be removed immediately from the space between the ball and the net as soon as the ball is projected upwards and Ferenc is clearly not doing that. And yes, I am a qualified umpire, so please don't teach people illegal serves.
Also holding the ball with thumb and fingers in cupped hand. It couldn't be more wrong. Pause 4m.03 for the best view.
So that’s an interesting point. The rule you refer to is this one…
2.6.5 - “As soon as the ball has been projected, the server’s free arm and hand shall be removed from the space between the ball and the net.”
This rule was presumably put in place to prevent players from covering the contact of the ball (also addressed in rule 2.6.4). However for some service actions, particularly the pendulum serve, it’s physically quite difficult to move your free arm out of the way as soon as the ball is projected. So most people serve exactly the same as Ferenc. You toss the ball up, bring the free arm back down and then the arm moves out of the way as you rotate into the serve. Maybe Ferenc could move his free arm away a little sooner, but in reality, it’s unlikely ever to be called by an umpire. The ball is visible at all times, so he is gaining no advantage whatsoever. Ferenc has played a lot of competitive matches over the years with qualified umpires and never been called for violating this rule.
@@TomLodziakI think your reply has some credibilty Tom but for sure Ferenc could move his free arm away much quicker.
Depending where the receiver is placed, there are positions where they couldn't see the ball during Ferenc's serve.
Unfortunately umpires are not consistent enforcing this rule and I wish the ITTF would either amend the rule or take steps to enforce it consistently.
If I were umpiring a match where a player was serving in such a fashion I would warn them and then penslise them if it continued.
One of the service rules is that the server had the responsibility to serve in such a way to make it clear to the umpire that he/she is serving legally i.e. it cannot be on the borderline of legal versus illegal.
Apart from the legality of Ferenc's serve, the serves he demonstrates are useful for the watcher.
Your receuves are very nahive, Tom. Come on, you should try to do it more realistic.
Toss is against the rules
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