Does watercooling help AMD Vega cards?
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RX VEGA 64 has definitely made a splash in the community especially with the out of control pricing on the GPU... but what happens when you put an RX VEGA 64 on Water? Watch and find out.
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I love when the fluid fills up the waterblock. It’s just so satisfying!
BenCubed take a transparent cup and pour juice in it, cheaper and looks similar!
Unknown Gamer yeah I know but it’s not the same. The waterblock has the different little things it goes through and it’s getting pumped in not being poured.
Get a clear silly straw and drink some juice out of a cup. Watch the silly straw
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
yea, i dont have a custom watercooling build.. when i saw that i was like ohh ohhh, beautiful :-)
Production quality has gone way the fuck up on this channel, well done jay and nic
I loved that deliciously long shot of the warranty sticker getting pierced by the screwdriver.
pop dat warranty cherry
Astfgl Im going to attempt to remove mine, run time spy on a loop and take it off while the glue is hot.
Those stickers are not "bogus". They can refuse to honor warranty if the repairs/modifications are not done at an authorized location. It is stated in the warranty, which you can find and read for yourself before purchasing the product (which you agree to, by purchasing the product). That "example" points to nothing but some tech rant, with no actual basis.
It's usually based on law, not what the manufacturer tells you. In Australia, for example, they can't refuse to honour a warranty if a sticker is damaged or removed.
Warranty is a contract. By US law, you have the right to view the warranty before purchase. After that, your agreeing to it. Even the Motherboard article that goes on it's tirade against this practice states "The statute itself states "for example, a provision in the warranty such as, 'use only an authorized ABC dealer' or 'use only ABC replacement parts,' is prohibited where the service or parts are not provided free of charge pursuant to the warranty." " actually doesn't do shit. Because they DO provide the service for free in the warranty time frame. These lawyers know what they are doing. I personally do not know of Australia and it's laws, but America is intentionally left grey and murky for businesses and other special interests to take advantage of it.
Absolutely love the B-roll montage and the excellent coverage, keep it up Jay!
At this point in 2019 and with current Vega prices. This would be a fun bit of modding for a new build. (:
Thank you Jay.
I've seen Vega 64's go for as low as $230 USD... Throw on a waterblock, it's definitely a very good option
@@HahnVogel I am looking for this kind of deals currently.
Bought one new today for 206 Euro. What a deal.
Calvin Jordan That actually is a deal for a Vega GPU.
@@HahnVogel picked up a vega 64 for 179.99 at my local microcenter ! incredibly happy with the perfromance.
it's so weird seeing a gpu without everything on it, like that thin thing runs all my games? crazy
Technology bru
kyle You'd expect a lot of gears spinning? lol
it's even weirder to see my thin wallet runs all my life, crazy!
It's maaagic
I know ,its really cool to see these things naked,its hard to believe these things are up to task looking all flimsy.
really appreciate the step up in production quality , keep it up lads.
Can't agree more, watching this video I was like!!! JAYZ2CENTS is back!!!
Yep, totally agree, love the new (back to roots) backdrop, as well as the cool water cool fill/build shots. More please.
Vids like this convinced me to get a Vega 64 and put in a EK waterblock. Thanks for the vids Jay, keep it up.
I bought my Vega to power my freesyc monitor
Wait! But it looks damn sexy as a single slot card with that silver Vega backplate.
My thoughts exactly. Sleek as fuck!
Edition, music and lighting... AWESOME! a lot more Pro! and content nice and tidy as always.
Music and editing is good. Just dim the purple backlights a bit and remove all the fixtures from the frame and you're all set. I'm not saying I don't like the lighting, it's just to present in my opinion. Love the channel.
Isnt porn illegal on youtube?
WhatTheFup not if it's educational.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
define "porn"...lol
Google took out a country #japaninternet
UA-cam doesn't determine the legality of things. If they did you would probably be sent to Goolag for wrong-think.
Pro-tip: UNDERVOLT it. Higher performance, lower power draw.
can i use 550w psu if i undervolt it?
@@danielbecardo2088 depending on your cpu demand you may be able. But you are close has hell to the maximum.
I under volted Vega64 and I did get cooler temps (45c) but as far as frame rates go, it started to blur. Removing blur, it shuttered. Whereas applying more volts, graphics became better and smoother at the cost of more heat. I used Radeon Software Version 20.10.35.02 with stock clocks at 1630 Mhz. With the cooler block and Afterburner v4.6.215745, ramped up to 1702 Mhz. Temps 55c/60c. My opinion is Vega is just a card that needs high volts.
Vega + water block + undervolt = 1700MHz+ even 1750 on core and 1100MHz + on HBM which further widens the gap over 1080 and closes the gap over 1080ti. All while lowering consumption. Come on Jayz you went half effort on this. If You gonna do a water vid do it right. Undervolt/ overvolt full power overclock. The whole shebang. We aren't water cooling just for pretty looks you know.
I would like to see this also
Personally dude Im cautious bios modding not that I wouldn't do it but we/I don't know what damage It might do In as time passes. still I'll probably wait till 2021 to pump out that extra 15%. I game mostly at 1440p tho so I can understand people wanting 4k
Sorry for replying on such an old post, but what did you set yer vega 64 to. I keep getting black screen crash to desktop with mine mostly with unity games, but a couple regular titles too. I dont know if it is the undervolt or what. I am Stock gpu clocks with an undervolt of 1065. Memory is OC to 1050..
@@barrelracer318 I haven't really bothered with a core overclocking much. 1750 is where I am at on my LC edition. Have not changed it. I've just upped the power limit. HBM however I run at 1150MHz. About the edge of stability in my case. Vega is bandwidth bottlenecked up until about 1100mhz so HBM overclocking is a must.
@@barrelracer318 black screens are usually caused by beta drivers. version 20.4.2 is working fine for me
Your editing game has stepped up man. I loved the shots in this video :O
Thanks for the Celsius, very much appreciated
Is it really launch day if none are available? 🤔
Robertpdot it's sold out there's a different I wonder if your question was serious or just straight trolling like an ass.
Robertpdot there's still a fair amount available in the U.K., even slightly under msrp.
Jay - just wanted to say that the look with the covers you put over the windows with the scenery in the background LOOKS AWESOME.
1. Video composition: Excellent
2. Build sequencing and editing: Perfection
3. Color choice for the water: Magnificent.
4. Water Block: Nice.
5. Music: Thrilling. (I want to get those tracks.)
Jay, I think this was the most incredibly perfect video you've ever published.
I hope for more videos of Vega 64 on water, flash the bios with the liquid cooled bios, it have a bigger power target, and with that overclock the thing to the limit like you did with the RX 480, and plz refill with the new Primochill product, that wold be a really cool video!
Jay, stick this water block on vega 56, the one we all REALLY WANT TO SEE!! :) Pretty please? I'd do it but nobody sends me anything because my channel is new and my production quality sucks. :P
Everybody needs to start somewhere right?
Goooooood Luck
Cody Pettigrew ^^^^
If you get a vega56 with Watercooling you could also just get a 1080 for that money.
There is no reason to watercool a vega56 because its board total draw is limited to 300w anyway so it really cant overclock high enough to warrant watercooling.
I'm not brand loyal and am currently running a watercooled ryzen 1700/rx 580 system, but vega isn't even remotely on my list when a person can pick up a MSI gtx 1080 ek on jet for $545.
A survivor Vega 56 is 10% taster than 1080 when flashed with 64 bios and overclocked/undervolted.
That shot of the block filling was incredible. The reflection of the tube filling was a great shot
As far as B-Roll footage goes, that was probably some of the sexiest I've seen. Not to mention the correspondence between the pitch and angle changes. Details like that make the video just seem even more professional. Top notch work guys.
If you downclock a vega to 1.4ghz you apparently hit the efficiency curve of the 14nm process. Above that (their out of box speeds for example) throw power efficiency out the window. As a result lowering clocks could save A LOT of heat output
he could undervolte it for a solid clock and lower temps but he probably don't know
Jay is no stranger to running custom BIOS.
i mean since he thinks vega is pointless i doubt we will see it from this channel. sad that big channels like this and linus are favoring nvidia whether they are shills or not
For mining that might not be a bad idea, but for gaming generally you want it to go as fast as it can.
Id rather lose 3-5% fps and run it at half power draw. "why not just get a 1080 then as the power draw on that is so much better." because freesync, application specific overclocking profiles, gpu passthrough for vm's, hbc if you somehow run out of vram, no stupid bridge for crossfire, low power draw of hbm2 allows for vram oc without any aditional powerdraw (.25 amps is nothing), and most importantly, there are way more amd sponsored titles out there right now.
Also its worth the test, because science.
What camera and lens do you guys use? Your production quality just skyrocketed
Watch the vlog that came out a few days ago. Jay shows the new FS7 professional camera they are using versus the prosumer FS5 he has been using for almost a year.
And he got some protips from Brandon to get that good good
A Sony A7R iii.
Jay have you done any under volting on Vega? A few articles claim that under volting helps with clock stability when overclocking because the cards usually hit their power target pretty quick.
I actually like that we can see the lights and stands in the background. the production quality with the peek behind the curtain is why you've become my favorite tech channel over the past year or so
the perfect blend of professional and diy
That were some nice camera movements in this episode, liked the waterblock being filled in slowmo
what would be cool is a waterblock on which you could put the original shroud back on, because you have to admit, the Vega cards look pretty.
Your crazy that single slot water block is at least 10x sexier...
I'm with Aaron, there's no reason I'd ever hide a sexy water block like that.
Klust413 Simple is sexy, just like the In Win 303. Or a 95 Volvo 850 T5R
Klaevin I think the clean modern look of the stock shroud is waaay sexier than the water block
Imo the aircooled Vega 64 is pretty sweet looking, the watercooled 64 is a bit too plain and the 56 uses the classic Radeon stock cooler design, so nothing special there.
...And the Frontier Edition coolers' colour schemes are god awful, if you ask me.
Tough one, the stock cooler looks so amazing on Vega (the alu one that is), so replacing that with a waterblock feels like an aesthetic waste.
Nycrea but throwing away the cheap ass black cooler on the standard version is a service to humanity. Same with all the cheap blower coolers on nvidia cards. No point in paying for over-engineered fans and heatsinks if they will be replaced by a waterblock.
I don't think that NVidia's Reference Blowers have been all that cheap since the 780. Hell some of the Aftermarket blowers are cheaper than the reference design and there is some asthetic taste in the blowers... not that I won't be removing the blower on my 1080Ti FE and replacing it with the EK Block.
Mark Ewing i meant the aftermarket blowers. They mostly use the reference pcb and are compatible with water blocks. You can check the compatibility list on ekwb. Currently the cheapest 1080ti in germany is the zotac blower, goes for around 680 euro. Vega 64, black one, is 649.
That wasn't a montage. That was a porn.
Tech Porn.
Dammit. Ya beat me to it Jay! Just got my Threadripper and Vega 64 blocks from EKWB Monday. I should have my build done this weekend. All Nickel Blocks with the Nickel backplate.
This is the best quality ive seen on youtube period in terms of video quality ( the content is also great ) . Keep it up Jay. I like how you kept the light in the background to be included in you shot. makes that studio feel come alive. any way sickness mate.
OMG that is one of the sexiest things I've ever seen as far as GPU aesthetic go! :O
Loved the porno music in this video😂
"Nick's Theme"
What happens if you put a waterblock on RX Vega?
It becomes cooler, just like the fractal design Kelvin s36.
Joshua Shiozawa Ayyyyyyyyyyyy lmao
That shot of the block filling around 6:35 is just beautiful
Finished my build, Pump to EKWB Vega 64, to XSPC RX120 rad, to Swiftech Apogee XL cooled 1700X R7processor, to XSPC 360slim rad in In white Win 303 Aurora case, running Giel EVO X 3200ram 16GB, 128Gb M.2 system memory, 1TB blue storage HDD, 850W PSU.
It runs SOOO much better now vs. air, less jittering 20% higher scores on time spy (7938 score on GPU), runs at 44C maxed out, best part, no jet taking off noise!
Pro tip! I flashed to the water bios, it offers higher clocks as I get 1717 to 1773mhz and 1000mhz ram under full load.
JayzTwocents the master of water cooling
he is our senpai
lucaispie hes good but far far from a master. Masters case mod to get better results.
Awesome video, but Jay, get a size smaller on that T-shirt! You've made some incredible progress, show that!
The purple spotlight thingy on the left, makes some annoying face lightning.
And wow this new Sony 4K camera is really nice, needs work on the focus stuff tho :P
I really like your tear down vids and your adding water blocks vids, your continued improvement in video and audio quality is much appreciated, nice work Jay.
I love how thin a water block makes these normally 2-2.5 slot cards. Perfect for compact cases.
Name a better combo than Jay and EK.
I'll wait.
JarJarCatlin Kyle and fractal design.
JarJarCatlin Linus and Nvidia /s
ryzen + stock cooler
Linus and dropping stuff 😏
JAKE PAUL AND GUN
The music! Awesome!
Jay-Z really knows how to make good tech-porn, love it!
That slow motion shot of the block filling up was gorgeous O_o
Dude that music is so cool! The purple one. And the montage was so good. Master.
Which camera have you been using for the video ? Very nice filming/colors/plans !
It makes it even more expensive!!!
blame the miners
miners have nothing to do with vega
Doesn't the 56 also draw a lot of power? Is it really worth it for them?
Eric Wood undervolting and overclocking HBM2 does the trick to keep up miming performance while lowering power consumption.
and consumes even more powerrrrrrr
As much as I admire the new architecture(fueled by GamersNexus' great videos) ,and support amd as a whole,this card, as is, is a bad buy.If I was building a 2nd rig just for the brag rights, and had 3 grand to waste,sure, I'd buy 2 vega 64 and run them crossfire watercooled. But as an average undergraduate student (and everyone else to be exact), it's a dumb buy.
waste of time no crossfire support in drivers
NextDoorGuy
'3 grand to waste'
'average undergrad student'
yeah
Thatsexceptional amirite He said if he had 3 grand to waste ...
+NextDoorGuy In a nature setting, women are to be conquered.
How is a Vega 56 a bad buy? It's faster than a GTX 1070 and cheaper..
Jay, In Wattman if you left click on the actual P-State column header then you can change your clock settings from Max to Min. This changes the behavior of the card to always run at the set speed (min) as opposed to turbo up to the speed setting (max).
-Cheers
oh look, one of those archaic videos back then when Jay did AMD videos..... WOW ! real treasure !
What happens when you put a custom waterblock on RX VEGA 64?
Gee, I don't know, it runs a little cooler?
Maybe it gives you bug eyes.
Because they know you have money out the assess
You can boil some tea in your custom loop
Thanks jay! i just bought this block for my 64 and was looking for some vids about it. You are spot on.
The shots of the manual for termal paste aplication. Nice. ;)
Prices continued to rise. Time to put my Vega FE on water.
This is probably one of the sexiest videos I have ever watched and I am not ashamed by my arousal
I am getting Vega limited edition air $100 cheap than 1080.......
So............
Spark99 Gaming How and where?
in his dreams?
Where I shop for parts I found a standard Vega 56 for only $50USD more than a GTX 1080.
That's a pretty good deal..... right?
JayJapanB NO😂 Vega 56 < 1080
Just got a new Vega 64 for 340 USD.
Jay and Nick u guys are now pumping some seriously amazing videos, that new studio Jay is definitively, worth it! Just amazing!
Installed mine on Friday on my Vega FE. Works great. Saw pretty much saw the same gains. I'm using a single 140mm rad.
9:08 "The Ryzen temperatures" teeheehee
Corey Smith What you mean? Ryzen runs famously cool... You mean Bulldozer? Or.. Intel 7700k?
dont you get it Andrew Harrop? he said the rising temepratures but sounded like ryzen temperatures
Andrew Harrop /r woosh
6:44 music?
5:10 songname pls
shazam did not found anything :/
I was wondering the same, someone please....
I'm interested as well.
Bump
+1
I bought 6 vega FE cards with 6 EK Acetal blocks. I'll make a video when it's set up. Thanks for all the vids Jay.
Amazing ambient background music.
Like smooth jazz-fusion instrumentals on a long elevator ride.
Then, things get all Ace-Combat upbeat around the 5min mark.
Great vid.
pornhub doesnt do it for me anymore, gotta return here every time :/
Song ? 2:54
franKoIACC Pornhub
I think it's called The Annoying Click.
@JayzTwoCents yes please tell us which RF track you chose at epidemic sound????
yes, give some credit to the artists
2nd May of 2019 : Vega 56 244€ 😂
yes, just picked one as well, and also a vega 64 on EK water
that's my birthday
I got a frontier for $300
@@user-nq3xi4wm2k Nice, it's not as fast as an RX 5700 XT, but 16GB HBM2 are no slouch either :)
The slow-mo fill of the water-block was cool
Am i the only one who loves the shot of the reservoir being filled and the coolant flowing through the waterblock?.
I jazzled in my panelonas
also what is this B roll. this is pornography. i subbed for a tech channel. reported for nudity and inappropriate content.
On topic tho: No it's not worth it. Anything that gets you into the 1080TI price range in automatically not worth it. For games the TI will destroy the 64, and for mining you don't care about water cooling your card.
At current prices Vega it simply a no buy. Unfortunate, especially seeing how good Ryzen is. Oh well.
darkholyPL
You could get more hashes by raising clocks for sure. Water blocks will allow more better temperatures for better PC. A custom BIOS would be needed for extreme miners.
And also don't forget the time GPUs mine for. They don't just mine for a few hours. Days and days of mining take place usually.
Expect heat to build up.
Yeah uh.. No? They perform about the same, some games 1080FE does better, some games Vega 64 does better. Heck, even an OCed and UVed Vega 56 can keep up with a 1080.
Rick ́n Sick No, the 1080 is not better. At least, not the FE edition.
Alexander Stormdahl Maybe a normal 1080, not the TI.
i always include the cost of freesync vs gsync in my buying options. its about 200 euros in favor of freesync in my country between equal quality panels. And since IN MY OPINION any serious gaming shouldnt be done without variable refresh rate i chose vega 64 watercooled and freesync.
4:36 made me chuckle x) showing us, he did infact, apply the thermal paste correctly!
Hey Jay, your content isn't crappy man.. it's awesome. Don't cut yourself short. Keep up the good work.
This 10 min video includes 4 .... YES 4 .... ads.
Rene that's not bad really. 1 at the beginning, 1 at the end and 2 mid rolls. Some people way worse and put at least 6 ads on their 10 minute videos
Controlled 100% by Google, your options in the dev panel are "monetize" or "no monetize". Also, they gotta pay the designer that made the new bold version of the UA-cam logo millions of dollars this week so... Somebody really needs to convince the good UA-camrs to jump ship to a better platform already.
modmutt well actually if you're a partnered channel. You can decide how many ads you want, hence why there's sometimes literally 6 different mid roll ads on a 10 minute video
Ublock
Just buy a 1080 or 1080 Ti and call it a day. They are more powerful, use far less power and the custom cards look 100 times better. AMD shouldn't even speculate the new cards anymore, they should just focus on processors and build graphic chips until they make a world shaking breakthrough in technology. As far as I am concerned, they lied to people for 2+ years and lead people on to believe that Vega was going to be a price shattering card that delivers. It did not, not in any way.
Beast6228 its not their fault that miners buy them in truck loads, and retailers bump up the price because of it. when ethereum dies the price will drop and by then aftermarket cards will be here. Also freesink is way cheaper so its worth for me 50 or 100 dollares more for the vega. I have a 970 right now and its still good. But in a year or so i might get a volta navi or one of thid aftermarket vegas
Beast6228 you always see cards prices go up when there's little stock. At the moment you can get both the 64 and 56 for msrp in the U.K., I wouldn't personally buy a reference card, but they are there if people want them. If you need an AMD card, the value isn't that bad
+Hugo Olloman They're actually still about £20 over MSRP but yeah they're avaliable at reasonable prices. I just don't want a reference card, waiting for aftermarket, then I'll probs pick it up as an upgrade from the 390X - I have FreeSync monitors so I'm not getting a 1080.
Jamessuperfun you don't even need a freesync monitor. Invest in a good aftermarket 1080Ti and the fps you gain will beat any benefits of a Vega64 + Freesync combo.
Shane Khiu I'm well aware of the performance gains, but I'd have significantly worse input lag or tearing based on VSync, or pay to replace them with GSync monitors. FreeSync isn't about low performance systems.
Excellent video quality. One thing to consider is that some people may not like fan noise, especially if running more than one.
Damn, The new lighting is pretty sick Jay. I do like this setting more than the office look
I just picked up a mug and hoodie. Great design choice! Enjoying the quality and quantity of content, mate. Keep up the awesome work!
You guys really outdid yourselves with the cinematography this time
I really really like the subtle profile and smaller form of the water cooled cards
Very good instructional and demo video. Views of equipment are clean and clear and most of all can read/see the vender Logo. This was very well thought out and edited. Sound is very clear and vendor name was said. Always interesting to see the difference between TT and EK equipment and deigns. Thanks
I'm running Vega 64 w/ the EK Nickel/Plexi block. Idles around 28c, Light gaming and Heaven 44c and marathon gaming peaks at about 55c for me. That is at 1742 (is what it showed before xx.2 broke the OSD clock monitoring. My 3Dmark scores still report as 1742) core and 1033 memory.
You make it look a lot more sexy than it is... That DAMNED blue film on the thermal pads!
Great vid, awesome production on it too. I get my 56 tomorrow and that's exactly what I'm looking to do, same block and all.
The editing, the music, the new camera - you're putting them all to good use. Tremendous quality video. I've only just found your channel a couple of weeks ago, and wasn't sure whether to subscribe or not, but yes, definitely yes.
The editing in this video is on par 100%. Like how they transition to different shots according to the beat of the music.
loved some of the camera work in this one.
Holy shit, the camera work and editing in this video were fucking amazeballs.
I gotta say - I enjoyed the montage immensely. It looked like you gave it that bit of extra care. Also, Vega with the block on looks absolutely gorgeous. 1-slot thin, with the original backplate, hnngg. Absolutely stunning looking industrial design.
My favorite part was you holding up the water block instructions showing how they recommended the thermal paste lol
I love that he knew someone would say something about that thermal paste placement
awesome video :) loved the slow mo waterblock filling
That was a sexy build. Great job with the cinematography. I think the purple backlight was a little bright. Also if possible I think you should lift the soft box lights up out of frame. Just my 2 cents.
this video was really well shot and edited. Like better than like 95% of your other videos. Keep it up :)
Hey JayzTwoCents, congrats on the video. This was really pro work. Soundtrack, slow motion, everything. Keep up the good work.