Mad God (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 169)
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2022
- Chelsea and James go on a journey to one man’s version of puppet hell. It’s Phil Tippett’s 30-years-in-the-making stop motion masterpiece Mad God!
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"watch this movie, guys, or you'll be so confused listening to this episode" im ready to be confused. cant wait for an hour of poetry about some weird guys appearing
Never heard of it lol
Honestly seen the movie it is hella confusing interpreting it. But, I had a fun time while doing it!
I played the Plague Doctor in this movie, they actually turned me into a stop motion figure
Yo that's dope
I have to ask, were you told what all the metaphors meant on set, or were you left in the mystery, and to be clear I'm not asking you to tell me if you do know, I'm just asking if you do?
Just finished watching the movie and dude that's so sick you got to be part of it. And a major one at that. The plague doctor was one of my favorite entities in the movie, nice work!
thats awesome
Now that’s what I call dedication to the craft
32:50 when James said “that was the first 30 minutes of film” I genuinely understood what you meant when you said this movie feels long
As someone who listens to the Spotify versions on my way to work, the amount of times I just said "what the actual fuck" is astounding. Great episode
I love the weird part towards the end with all the automated war machines going off. Gives the impression that all the soldiers are dead, but the machines don’t know it’s over
Give it thirty years or more and that might not be a movie sequence anymore 😀
Between Mad God, The Wolf House, The House, All Through the House (LD+R), Night of the Mini Dead (LD+R), and the upcoming Wendell and Wild, it's been an absolutely incredible time for stop-motion horror.
i totally agree! every chapter is beautiful in its own way, but the third chapter holds a very special place in my heart
And especially stop-motion horror with "House" in the name
After watching the documentary about ILM on disney+ i have a deep respect and sort of sadness for phil tippett bc he talked about how stop motion rly helped him manage his mental health/ bipolar episodes and how jurassic park rly broke him bc the CG dudes really wanted to show they could beat stop motion, jurassic park was suppose to be his magnum opus and it was ofc taken from him. so im glad he got to do mad god and this daughter helped produce and edit the film also.
One way I interpreted the scene of all the people being electrocuted & shit pouring out that was getting funneled into someone's mouth, I saw it as a metaphor for how we treat those involved in the arts. Because we enjoy things like cinema, paintings, sculptures, we don't always see the agony that goes behind making it, the blood, sweat, tears an artist pours into their work, it is not always an easy or pretty process, but people are non-stop consuming over and over again. So even as they go through this much to create something, people will eat it up regardless of what it costs the creator.
I saw the majority of the first act as the fall of humanity and the future landscape of the same type of subversive slavery and nihilistic existence that is projected upon us everyday by the elite, how they view us and the horror and atrocities of simply being force-fed to a machine as our only true duty and purpose, we are the food, the shit and the fuel to continue the illusion of their mechanism of control and power, where the 2nd act seems to show a odd secondary position of purpose through a alchemical transition of substance , i.e. the left and right hand pathways, which is still of the same esoteric view of theosphical adherence to a greater standard of the hidden / occult mystery schools of enlightenment or illuminated position.
I agree, but I feel like it's more onient about tortured artists in the context of capitalism. When forced to make something it's shit.
I took it as a satirical statement on trickle down economics
This is a genuinely really good analysis and i completely agree but sometimes i wonder if the visuals were just to fuck with people
As far as what did Phil Tippet do in Star Wars? You got the holo-chess, but he also did the Rancor, the Taun-taun, the AT-ATs, and basically anything claymation you see in the film.
Personally my favorite item of his work is ED-209 from Robocop.
The big red zappy thing that y’all said looked like the war of the worlds tripods, I thought it totally looks like a virus like a bacteriophage.
As an amateur stop-motion animator myself, I knew exactly what I was going into when seeing the trailer of this exactly 11 months ago from today and I enjoyed every aspect of the film even if I tried to futilely follow the characters. I knew no one with an open mind to this film would understand it without any of the history of the artist or time behind it but seeing it on the big screen was an absolute treat I wished was playing in many theaters for people to see for themselves if they’d care to understand some aspects of history of it. This is what I consider to be Fantasia of today, no clear story, just an artistic and possible meaningful experience for the ages and OG’s of cinema.
the end of this movie floored me. the entire movie is gorgeous, but i had my jaw hanging and i was just stuck there staring. this is art
I've known about the original 3 part series for this for years, but the updated full length version was a treat. Wish there was more stuff like this in the world but the industry really doesn't do much to foster that kind of thing. Hence why it was just all done out of pocket on his own.
I feel like you guys forgot one of the most emotional parts of the movie. After the movie ends but before the credits roll, it cuts to a black screen with this gorgeous choir with a lead singer essentially yodeling. The choir sings over a black screen for about a minute and to me, was something magical. It was the first scene of true peace and tranquillity in the entire film. It was so beautiful and pleasant after experiencing 80 minutes of atrocity.
The difference in perspective and size was genius. There was one human next to the assassin, which is a good way to see the difference. Then you think of when he lands and bets are off. Amazing.
I watched this 4 times in 2 days last weekend. THERE IS A STORY... I don't care if Tippett says there isn't. Pay close attention and you will see there is a very intricately woven plot
I am so glad that someone was able to make at least a first attempt at articulating this hellscape. The amount of telling people that it's just vignettes of torture, scatalogical decadence and the most depraved shit you could shove into what looks like one part Henry Selick one part Ray Harryhauser nightmare. Do your nightmares need narratives? Nah, it's what makes them so genuinely unmooring.
“This will just be us describing a series of guys to you.” Yeah. That’s the movie, you nailed it. I described it as introducing the viewer to a creature, and then showing how that creature is eternally suffering. Honestly it wasn’t That hard for me to get through but I just really loved the art.
Hearing James say “scabby balls” was a new experience 😂
Mad God fits into a category of film that I like to call "Mood Pieces", where it's more about tone and how it makes you feel rather than a particular narrative. This is not to say that a mood piece can't have narrative structure or be substantively about something. It's just more to do with the purpose as to why the film exists and the reason to watch it. Solaris (2002), The Fountain (2006), Gravity (2013), Memento (2000), Offseason (2021) are just a few examples of films I find have more of an atmospheric quality that's meant to leave you in a particular state of being. Everything Everywhere All At Once (2022), is the best, most recent example. Every narrative, visual and auditory decision is meant to make you feel and understand the destructive and oppressive effects of anxiety, depression and generational trauma.
Mood Pieces. That's a good word for that. It's like how I try to explain David Lynch to people who aren't really film nerds.
@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control Oh, David Lynch for sure! He is all about that. Basically, his entire filmography (except maybe The Straight Story). :)
Digging through your childhood memories for the weird cartoons you watched really is like delving into some half submerged ancient temple.
I haven't heard The Thief and the Cobbler mentioned in EONS! I was almost convinced that whole film was something I made up in my head.
Thief and the cobbler is a 10/10 experience.
I'm so glad that you brought up Thief and the Cobbler, my favorite 2D movie, which had so many production issues over years! I think we can watch the complete version here on UA-cam, free for everyone!
I was super stressed out all day and coming home to see a new podcast upload brought me a sense of relief and joy that I can't express in words 😭
When I watched this, I was one of the people kinda going what is this plot? I did get over it and enjoyed the animation and imagery. I did like the second assassin puttering along in his little jeep. I wished we had seen what happened to him. I thought the Plague Doctor looked awesome
I feel like the second assassin is just going to end up the same way. Mad God seems to be based on cycles.
The second assassin might've completed his mission, there's an after-credits scene where a bunch of faint explosions can be seen followed by an eye similar to the one seen at the beginning. Either that or the first one completed his mission after time was reset and the second one was killed in the resulting detonation
I remember when the movie was mentioned in Scott Ian's show in Nerdist and was so damn excited!! It's so awesome that it finally got released! :)
If you're near Los Angeles, Mad God will be playing a number of days this month at the Los Feliz theater.
Okay so i took a risk and watched this movie for the first time on 7 grams of shrooms, and honestly, for me, it totally payed off, i found the whole thing strangely relaxing and euphoric, there were definitely a couple moments of abject fear/panic (the surgery scene specifically) but never enough to make me want to stop watching the film, the last 10 minutes were actually really beautiful from memory, i gotta watch it again sober now.
Btw, don't try this at home guys, results may vary and I don't want anyone getting traumatized
Damn man. I watched it on 3 grams yesterday and it was incredible
I was completely fried when I started watching this and I would turn to my phone and then blank out and turn to the tv and see a random horrific frame, so I’m definitely gonna rewatch this
I'm so happy to see this masterpiece getting covered on this channel.
I just love Chelsea’s energy and her smile, she’s the best thing about James lol 🥰😍
Hearing James shout, "CREEPY CRAWLERS!" made me so happy for some reason.
Without having seen the film, this podcast was still so thoroughly enjoyable
This feels so much like dantes inferno.
Vergil: look over there Dante souls are suffering
We had to watch it just becuae of Phils work and we were not disappointed. Holy crap I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Thank you for being the brave ones reviewing this.
Listen. I knew NOTHING about this movie until I started watching this podcast episode. But as a lover of all things cinema, and through the clips Chelsea put into here, I am RUNNING to get a Shudder subscription and watching this movie right now! Because this movie looks INCREDIBLE. I'm a firm believer in storytelling =/= narrative plot. You can tell a story with imagery, just like this movie does. Look how many interpretations have come from something as visually intriguing as this movie with little to no dialogue uttered. I love all the niche films I find from you guys, thanks for broadening our minds! This is why I love the Dead Meat Podcast so much!!!
So, I know I'm talking into a massive pool of people, but James the guys with the shovels were misbehaving and fighting, so he disciplined them, like with a shock collar.
Ever since I was like a little kid I always loved horror movies so watching this on shutter I fell in love with it but I can’t get enough of this movie
Can’t wait to listen to this while eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch
Lol
The first five minutes of this podcast was what finally pushed me into getting a shudder subscription. Your advertising wore me down lol. Amazing film. Absolutely gorgeous and creatively genius.
I watched this when it first posted this morning while at work, only being able to listen. I kept getting whiplash with each random wtf moment and got so confused. Now that I’m watching this again with the clips, it makes more sense and I can enjoy the amazing animation but I still need to watch it so I can get the whole picture. I actually didn’t know about this until now and I’m very interested, glad Phil was able to complete this with no interference from studios (unlike Thief and the Cobbler which is also beautifully animated but got heavily edited and cut by studios, The ReCobbled Cut is the “true” version if anyones interested).
Glad you guys had fun at RTX, hope I get to go one day and this was another great episode!!
i love this channel, at work just play it at background and its make my day not so misarable, keep it up
Shoutout to the Heironymous Bosch nod that’s gotta be my favorite renaissance painter
It’s been a while since I’ve visited y’all but dang I do love this episode so much.
I enjoyed hearing about all these guys. Gonna have to go watch this now.
I think the best way to go into Mad God is to keep a very open mind, and get ready to interpret the movie how you want to. After I finished it, I realized that this movie isn't any simple plot. It's instead a movie that changes depending on your view point. Maybe not a great movie to watch with a group of people, but you could keep it to a few, then you can have an open discussion about what each person thought it was about.
"A brilliant movie I'll never watch again" -- a good example of this is Requiem for a Dream. Brilliant, marvelous, I'm never watching that again. I'm good, thanks.
It's my first time really listening to the podcast BUT WILL FOR SURE BINGE MORE. This was awesome!!
YES, I was hoping you'd review this! I said "what the fuck?" so many times during this movie. Can't wait to hear your thoughts!
Love the shoutout to Thief and the Cobbler 🤘🏽
I saw this in theaters which is one of the greatest theater experiences of my life
I love hearing gressele in the back ground I love DnDnD I love all your guys content thank you so much for all your hard work
I always appreciate when anyone acknowledges that the show Roundhouse existed, because otherwise it feels like it was a fever dream of my childhood.
As someone who has The Wall in my top 10 films, you got me more interested as soon as you said it was similar
If, for whatever reason, i get a chance to be on the podcast, I'm going to beg Chelsea to do an episode our favorite horror musicals and then use it as an excuse to gush about The Wall.
Mad God is sick!!!!!!!! Bad ass movie can't wait tell the next one!!! Best movie ever!!!
I was planning to watch this film looks great!
Thank you for covering this, this movie is a masterpiece, reminds me of earaserhead but 100times crazier, I had to see this on the big screen
I second that in every word.
@@osiristhegod-stopmotion this film is either loved or hated the shit out of, I can definitely understand how people hate this film but again it’s like earaserhead, in my opinion I think this film is a metaphor of Phil’s life, each level is a level in his life, also a great stop motion film you should watch is “the house” on Netflix
"Are you telling me a shrimp dealt these cards?"
I have no clue what i watched but i loved every second of this movie and will watch it again
The first time I tried to watch this i was using my VR headset late at night in bed. U was really tired and started nodding in and out during the surgery scene and it felt like I was having a really lucid nightmare
I haven’t seen this movie but I loved this episode. Talk about entertaining, hearing you guys fight for your life to explain things lol
🎵Whenever my life gets me so down
I know I can go down
To where the music and the fun never ends
As long as that music keeps playing
You know what I'm saying
I know that I can find a friend
Down at the roundhouse🎶
This movie was the definition of a fever dream. I would rewatch this synched to a Tool album. Certain parts of this reminded me of WarHammer while others had an Oddworld feel but much more ominous. The baby cries was unsettling whenever they were used and added the the nightmarescape of the experience. Not sure if the ending was hopeful or just matter of fact. Great podcast as always y'all. Can't wait to see what is covered next. B~)
Lucy appears at 11:34 for interested parties
The Plague Doctor looks like Mergo's Wet Nurse from Bloodborne, a horror game about eldritch monsters.
To be honest, I really enjoy the film reviews where the plot is either bare bones or there isn't a traditional narrative. James and Chelsea really dig into detail and history when they have the time to do it.
I definitely feel like "Mad God" is an exercise (and one that any film enthusiast/scholar should undertake for the love of the craft) in thought and viscera. A thought on the 'false god' level and what would be interesting - Every level and experience is focused on consumption and destruction. If something IS being created, it's made from the refuse of living beings facing destruction. In comparison, the level with the statues is...almost serene, but lonely. Society likes to cover up the ugliness of exploitation with a Higher Purpose...what if a room full of smiling or otherwise quiet and abandoned 'false gods' is a reflection of that reality?
This film was a trip.
I loved this film so much. I know it doesn’t necessarily have a plot, but I love animation so much. 😭
This movie is everything I been wanting for that has every aspect of a horror/ animation stop motion and Tim Burton / goth style like omg what a masterpiece 😯
***So excited while browsing UA-cam that you have a new episode... I just can't do notifications due to anxiety when seeing notifications lol
I loved the Roundhouse btw. Great to see it's impressed itself on someone else's mind.
the giant red thing at 38:55 is modeled after a virus cell!
i loved mad god and it’s definitely one of my favorite horror movies now
I haven’t watched this movie. I feel like I’m listening to my stoner friends describe a shared hallucination
So I watched this last night because I had forgotten to watch it and seeing the podcast drop made me remember this was definitely a completely visual experience I tried not to assume I get what the director was trying to say with it but of course there are a few obvious things. I would kinda love to see him go back to more balance of fantasy & horror like coraline as 80s babies we got to experience 2D animation stop motion everything kids these day won't have this if they're kids are late 90s babies who didn't have parents who show them. I just would love to see this type of art live on.
39:38 I would like to point out that these are not in fact 'piles of meat', but mountains of dead soldiers. This was dome by melting plastic army men over wire frames and apparently took them ages to make.
The second assassin we see is different than the one we see in the beginning i think. 1.) because his mask design is much different than the first one we see and 2.) when he just arrives he seems to view another assassin with his binoculars in a building. Im not sure if the one he views is our initial protagonist or perhaps one that was sent before our second protagonist but there definitely seems to be more than one assassin
I love the fact that Chelsea brought up "Threads". Definitely my scariest movie of all time. Would love to see you two do a podcast on it.
i tried looking it up on google, but got nothing when searching for "threads" claymation..
I liked the little soldier guys, using them to explore the place was pretty cool. It also could add to the feeling of just being just a number in a battle, like you're not a person, you're just a soldier. Also I brushed my teeth and took a shower after I watched the movie. I felt really dirty.
Here for the spoiler-free part of the episode, going to see it in a couple hours!
Okay I'm back, that was the best fuckin movie I've seen in a LONG TIME
The way I viewed the movie is that this world is the embodiment of the human body and mind. It's all of man's horrific instincts and cruelties on full display. Our desire for war, control, spectacle and desire to create. The assassins with the bombs are the specs of our morality and ethics trying to make their way through this cruel world just trying to survive and put this world out it's misery.
Bro. I recommended this like a week ago. No way thanks guys. Love the podcast
I think the best way to view the movie is essentially multiple segments riffing on the title: that we live in not just an uncaring universe but under the thumb of a malicious omnipotence. From the actual city/dystopia to even the small neon world where the child is intentionally fed to the spider creature, we see that whatever g-d exists in this movie doesn't just let bad things happen but actively promotes this. Thus nuclear dystopia is not just possible but inevitable
I find it funny ppl say this movie looks like a tool music video bc their music videos have their effects done by the guitar player, Adam Jones, who ALSO worked effects on the first Jurassic Park movie
PODCAST EPISODE ON THE WALL???? Chelsea make him watch it and do an episode on it!!! I’m not sure if it’s exactly horror but at the same time it scared me growing up and to this day some points trip me out!
I noticed the "Plague Doctor" was the same dude God smote with a thunderbolt during the first sequence on the Tower (Of Babel?) Another thing I noticed was how the first "Assassin" set his explosive amongst a massive mountain of books (and later on the Alchemist guy was lovingly organizing his own books) I figured since God has been known to have a grudge against knowledge and learning (at least from what I've read) that this created a schism in this world? Perhaps even the main conflict? Anyways, everything in this movie seemed oddly connected and I get the impression there is a story that actually makes sense somewhere in here.
I just watched this yesterday, couldn’t have timed this enough
I just watched it and I couldn't look away it enthralled me for lack of a better word
Watched this film recenlty. Loved all of it and it's batshit insanity.
The whole time I'm watching it I'm like..... wtf is HAPPENING. MY MIND TREMBLES!!!
Fun fact, this took 30 something years to make. And it looks incredible.
Is that not what they said in the video?
@@cheerios-9464 they did say it in the vid. I posted this before I got to that part
@@MGory828 bruh
If any of you guys like the slower part of this movie I really recommend Sleep Has Her House. Modern slow cinema at its best
I'm really glad you guys included a clip of Cain from RoboCop 2, because I think that aside from this movie, Cain is absolutely his best work. ED-209 in the first movie is incredibly well-composited into the scenes it's in because they very smartly used rear-screen projection to film the figure against a real background, but you can still kind of tell it's not real because the backgrounds and things around it are a little washed out. However, Cain is genuinely flawless in 90% of the shots they use him in. Anyways, great podcast!
Definitely putting this movie on at this year’s Halloween party, thank you.
"If you haven't watched this and you're just going to listen to us describe it, don't do that" oops, you caught me! That's my usual approach lol. :)
Sounds like Terry Gilliam took the brown acid and tried to make Adventures of Huck Finn.
I saw this when It came out (sober) I say that because the place smelled like a weed shop and I got so wrapped up in it trying to figure out the story almost 3 hours later I have 2 new friends and now in a conspiracy group 10/10 would recommend
That newt in the tank is so cute
The assassin first lands directly in a Crossroads, classic. would the first layer be considered purgatory?
No way I could even get wine drunk and watch this thing. So damn insane.
22:08 best sponsor segue ever
Before I get any further into this episode, I must plug some random video of someone playing the notes that were on the butt in Garden of Earthly Delights. It was so funny. 😭😭
Just search "butt music" and there you go lmao
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