SERIOUS Warning For Indie Artists That SAMPLE Music!

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  • @justin.johnson
    @justin.johnson 7 місяців тому +88

    I got flagged on FB just practicing piano playing MY OWN STUFF.
    This shit is getting crazy. You can't even try to be original without dealing with BS.

    • @tyronetate3874
      @tyronetate3874 6 місяців тому +7

      Same here play a Curtis Mayfield Bass riff

    • @therealajnelson
      @therealajnelson 6 місяців тому +5

      Same.. but guitar

    • @LowkeyDreadz
      @LowkeyDreadz 6 місяців тому +2

      I posted a song with a beat I made, canceled the audio & kept the video up smh

    • @djvarangian
      @djvarangian 6 місяців тому +3

      @@LowkeyDreadz SoundCloud flagged a DJ mix I'd posted (whenever I drop below 10min it is risky) however, despite the inferred warnings about trying to appeal for dj mixes, I decided that since I had video recorded of my performance I claimed my "Right Of Introduction" as a 'Performance Artist' in alignment with the UK & World IP Organisations' guidelines; I explained that I held performance licence & purchased download; the audio was streaming only & I could submit the video. To my amazement they Reinstated my Mix. This can only work for a PERFORMANCE... more than once per year per DSP may be tempting fate.

    • @Zth.iszzz0
      @Zth.iszzz0 5 місяців тому +3

      Man I’m going through the same thing especially with TikTok. At this point I haven’t been sampling anymore. Even when I play something I made up myself I get flagged. I posted my own video (taken down) smh it’s ridiculous

  • @truetrax2
    @truetrax2 7 місяців тому +255

    HipHop ain’t HipHop without sampling it’s the original recipe

    • @theybeonbody1309
      @theybeonbody1309 7 місяців тому +24

      Respectfully.

    • @djvarangian
      @djvarangian 7 місяців тому +27

      Not to mention Electronic Music, House & Drum n Bass use hook samples. That's without even thinking about the one-shot hit samples used to make Techno/Electro.
      This is all about "Control of Art" imo. It makes people nervous about releasing their Music independently, which will probably stop half from ever trying.

    • @bushwacka5187
      @bushwacka5187 7 місяців тому +4

      @@theybeonbody1309 Troi Torain, is that you?

    • @SrChalice
      @SrChalice 7 місяців тому +13

      That's why I don't respect hip hop, especially if it's samples. Sampling is stealing and unoriginal. Go write your own music, it's not hard.

    • @truetrax2
      @truetrax2 7 місяців тому

      @@SrChalice let me guess you’re white lol white trap producer let me guess

  • @farraribeats
    @farraribeats 7 місяців тому +289

    I see so many people selling packs of chopped soul samples from old records. It’s insane😂

    • @DamnDamariah
      @DamnDamariah 7 місяців тому +34

      Swear like someone chopping a sample with no effects is worth $50 and its not even unknown samples itll be popular songs too i lost a few songs because of this

    • @3kubeBeats
      @3kubeBeats 7 місяців тому +43

      Bro they dont even name the records they sample from in the packs smh

    • @CurtissKingTV
      @CurtissKingTV  7 місяців тому +141

      🤦🏽‍♂️ fam them doing that is like stealing a bag of Doritos, crushing the bag, and then selling the crumbs as your own Cheese Dust

    • @CurtisSmoove
      @CurtisSmoove 7 місяців тому +6

      @@CurtissKingTV 😂😂😂

    • @farraribeats
      @farraribeats 7 місяців тому +3

      @@CurtissKingTV Fax😂

  • @TheColorBlaqk
    @TheColorBlaqk 7 місяців тому +168

    Gotta Shazam your samples before using them producers

    • @IDMtv
      @IDMtv 7 місяців тому +13

      Good idea. Never thought about that 🤔

    • @chilisaucecritic
      @chilisaucecritic 7 місяців тому +9

      Exactly it takes like 5 seconds

    • @peanut6utton
      @peanut6utton 7 місяців тому +11

      of cause ! or better: make your own ,with hardware

    • @wormsali
      @wormsali 7 місяців тому +19

      Yup. Or the Who Sampled app

    • @strangerpresents4535
      @strangerpresents4535 7 місяців тому

      @@wormsali Same here.....I used to frequent the 'Who Sampled' site, in my case. Never tried the app though.
      And by the way.......bro, I see you everywhere on the socials. 😂💪🏾

  • @23imansaray
    @23imansaray 7 місяців тому +130

    Prince made the exact same complaint that Jermaine Dupri had about 20 years ago. Prince was upset that Sinead O'Connor was being celebrated for her cover of "Nothing Compares to You", with people saying that it was her song, when it was his song of course.

    • @afrosymphony8207
      @afrosymphony8207 7 місяців тому

      Yes, We shouldnt celebrate whitney houston cause dolly parton originally sang AND wrote i will always love you. Both you and prince are fucking idiots in this regard.

    • @ChelseaMonet
      @ChelseaMonet 7 місяців тому +12

      I miss Prince 😢

    • @SrChalice
      @SrChalice 7 місяців тому +8

      I've always hated sampling. It's theft and because it's ripe in hip hop it's accepted. I don't back corporations, but sampling is theft.

    • @franksbackbaby
      @franksbackbaby 7 місяців тому

      ​@@SrChalice spoken like a guy who backs corporations for the reason why public enemy doesn't use so much to make a point
      you're not slick, white boi
      so uncreative you gotta attack da blax!!1

    • @안광
      @안광 7 місяців тому +21

      @@SrChalice Sampling isn’t theft. Stealing samples is theft.

  • @TheRealNativeSun
    @TheRealNativeSun 7 місяців тому +90

    That’s why I still dig in the crates. 😂. I was raised on the art form of sample manipulation. I feel bad for the new generation. Browsing online thru sample packs is crazy. You and ten thousand other people are using that same loop.

    • @RAPSNINO
      @RAPSNINO 7 місяців тому +4

      ✊🏾😂

    • @ASSman864
      @ASSman864 7 місяців тому

      Facts

    • @Ayofab
      @Ayofab 7 місяців тому +13

      Or just make your melody from scratch lol

    • @TheGroovezone
      @TheGroovezone 6 місяців тому +2

      Sampling is for music what voyeurism or pornography is for sexuality.
      You cannot base your experience on other people's production. Instead of being passing waiting for real artist to write original songs to sample, you Betta play instruments and create yourself.

    • @TheRealNativeSun
      @TheRealNativeSun 6 місяців тому +6

      @@TheGroovezone I actually do both. I create samples from chores riffs and drum progressions. Both can be a creative tool. It’s not about waiting for someone to come along so I can be a parasite. Come on man. It’s a good argument but not good enough.

  • @jrobjames1
    @jrobjames1 7 місяців тому +24

    If this is true, then that artist who got sued should go and sue the company who sold him the sampled pack, that claimed that the samples were royalty free. That will definitely remedy this issue. I thank God, I was born with this talent, not something that I just picked up off the street as many do today.

  • @risingphoenix1484
    @risingphoenix1484 7 місяців тому +74

    in a lot of ways it is discouraging but I definitely see the opportunities. I play the piano, guitar, bass, and drums. I am going to start making royalty free sample packs of me playing for the community.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu 7 місяців тому +11

      Until they hit you for a track that has something that sounds like it was from an existing copyrighted track. That's how it's going.

    • @IGPassionpulsemusic
      @IGPassionpulsemusic Місяць тому

      please

  • @hannibalwilmetcalf8363
    @hannibalwilmetcalf8363 7 місяців тому +40

    That strategy of uploading music to UA-cam and then letting it sit unlisted works!!! I have been doing that method for years and it has saved me so much money and so many heartaches! It's the easiest way to find out whether or not your music has a sample in it that is uncleared or if other producers have used that same sample in the same way. It also works to track loops as well

    • @ChelseaMonet
      @ChelseaMonet 7 місяців тому +2

      Can you explain more about this?

    • @Xtronoid
      @Xtronoid 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ChelseaMonet i think he meant to do a kind of 'try first' to see if flaps

    • @J1hunnitL4E
      @J1hunnitL4E 7 місяців тому +6

      This is some great advice so basically what he saying is let it sit and see if you pick up any type of copyright

    • @jurassicthunder
      @jurassicthunder 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ChelseaMonethe means let UA-cam find the copyright if it has any

    • @kicksquadtv
      @kicksquadtv 6 місяців тому +2

      What’s Crazy About That Is I Have A Beat On My Page With A Loop From Looperman In It. Longstory Short I Notice My Analystics Was Doing Numbers I Have Never Seen In My Underground Career Once So Ever 24k+ In Impressions Etc. Like Spotify Artist Apple Artist Etc YT Has UA-cam Studio Tell Me Why I End Up Finding Another Producer Who Had The Loop In One Of Their Beat As Well. A Week Or 3 Later My Version Says It’s Copyrighted On My Page But Prior To Seeing The Other Producer’s Version It Never Said Copyrighted Under Mines Until Recently Me Being Honest My Version Is Much More Marketable And Radio/Album/Ep Ready Then The Other Dudes We Have Way Different Styles From One Another 😅But Nonetheless No One Has Contacted Me Either About It From The Loop Maker To That Other Producer I’m Starting To Think The Loopmaker Trying To Sell My Version Or Something Without Discussing My Percentage On Commission As The Composer If Thats The Case Honestly I Myself Personally Never Had The Beat Copyrighted. Most Of The Time It’s 50/50 W:L When You’re Not Buzzing And Going Viral Cause In Most Cases Us Low Tier “Not Quite Established In The Industry” And Still Works A Job Or Hustle Just Want An Upfront Amount Thats Worth Our Effort And Time We Took To Create It Unless We’re Talking Major Placement Opportunities That Money Is A Whole Lot Different From That Leasing/Exclusive Rights MunyuN 😂 Residuals ,Points ,Percentages Co-Producers Loop Makers etc.

  • @bdizz19
    @bdizz19 7 місяців тому +13

    That’s why I sample like flying lotus. Research, Rebuild, deconstruct, reverse, re-pitch X10 to create something noones ever heard.

  • @baqongroup8055
    @baqongroup8055 7 місяців тому +30

    sample culture vs. taking samples and selling shit. 2 different worlds.

  • @markus_scott
    @markus_scott 7 місяців тому +40

    Artists are going to go the same route as dispensaries when they first became legal in NYC. You wasn’t able to sell a certain amount only “gifting” was available, sell a t shirt for $10 and “gift” the consumer the album to duck the record labels and samples

    • @aishine8184
      @aishine8184 7 місяців тому +6

      That's all they gotta do they getting to lazy and greedy I will never clear a sample there are too many ways to get around it

    • @tesslacoell
      @tesslacoell 7 місяців тому +2

      this isnt true - while its unlikely to attact attention, they can still technically sue

    • @joechapman8208
      @joechapman8208 7 місяців тому +5

      Giving music away doesn't protect you under copyright law. Copyright holders are less likely to go after you, but they still can (think of all those free game mods taken down by Nintendo and Disney).

    • @MrARhodes
      @MrARhodes 6 місяців тому +1

      Like making people buy Coupons to redeem for Beer at an Engagement, to avoid "Licensing", etc.

  • @veracityhiphop
    @veracityhiphop 7 місяців тому +37

    From what it looked like is someone made a "sample pack" that the producer used assuming it was created strictly for royalty free sampling. Yet the distributer was being sleazy and used a pre-existing published song from the 80's. Not excusing the bad follow up when it comes to paperwork in business, it just seems this type of scam has gotten pretty prevalent recently. Ignorance and corporate bloodlust being at an all time high.
    The larger fear I have is that even people that do not sample at all have been getting hit with lawsuits over things such as song "vibes" being similar. Copywrite scanning has people slammed with waves of claims from the likes of UMG etc. Noodle on your guitar or playing some keys and hit a melody progression that songs have used before in any form? Nope! Claimed. You can keep the video up but we take all the revenue. If you want to complain and run a fade we will make sure you end up with a strike too. It's lunacy.
    There honestly has to be a better way. Copywriter needs to be easier and more streamline so EVERYONE can get their proper cut and make money. I like the concept of what Tracklib is doing on that end. I just hope it becomes more wide scale. I'd rather we all win then all lose to systems created by people not even involved in the music industry.

  • @mikekeyz9931
    @mikekeyz9931 7 місяців тому +29

    Some may not want to hear this but investing in learning how to play an instrument would help alot… i can make my own samples in different genres then chop those up or play as is if i want to … may take you some time but it will be well worth it

    • @elonkush8013
      @elonkush8013 7 місяців тому +5

      Facts, I currently pay session artists to replay or interpolate different songs I wanna sample and get them to modify it to the point where I can chop it up and arrange it and it won't trigger a copywrite infringement while still keeping the feel of the sample that inspired me to begin with. I'm working on my keyboard skills now, that one skill set can open up doors and save me money in the long run and allow me to express myself more fully as an artist 🎨 🙌

    • @ta5393
      @ta5393 7 місяців тому +5

      Absolutely! I couldn't agree with you more. Learn to create your own music instead of depending on sampling from others.

  • @Beatz_by_Tp_the_don
    @Beatz_by_Tp_the_don 7 місяців тому +14

    f the industry
    I'm finna keep sampling till I become a legend

  • @malekkushimuzik3580
    @malekkushimuzik3580 7 місяців тому +9

    One of the reasons the major corporations bought out so many catalogs of songwriters and producers, is because sampling is the way forward for the masses as they don't actually play instruments.
    They have cornered the money in the numbers game. If 10,000 fools slip up and sample from any music owned by these corporations, they will make hundreds of millions without having to sign anyone. A few will strike gold over the years and they will collect on the back end.
    The market is oversaturated anyway. Maybe this isn't the worst thing. We will see over time.

  • @milkywaymusic
    @milkywaymusic 7 місяців тому +7

    That's why I only use session musicians to play my melodies or pay them to play random stuff that I can chop and restructure into something dope.

    • @AngelA-zz8ph
      @AngelA-zz8ph 6 місяців тому

      Best comment so far 🤟🔥👍

    • @Chance-Dean
      @Chance-Dean 6 місяців тому

      That's really cool. What site do you use to get in contact with musicians? I play multiple instruments, mainly the piano. I'm trying to get into marketing my talents.
      Or do you have your own studio they perform in?

  • @researchhacker2765
    @researchhacker2765 7 місяців тому +10

    It’s over for talented artists. They own and control everything.
    Artists must realize there’s an investment interest in record companies and their goal is to capitalize on creativity.

    • @matthewgaines10
      @matthewgaines10 6 місяців тому +1

      Talent will always thrive. AI and sampling copyrights will not affect those who create music people want to hear. The more you sample or lean on other’s work, the more they will put the screws to you.

  • @rehab-101-onsw
    @rehab-101-onsw 7 місяців тому +8

    It is the era of education and tutoring to be an official music entrepreneur. Because going to the library and getting hearsay was a dizzy experience back in the day.

  • @CED.Dweller
    @CED.Dweller 7 місяців тому +46

    Texas court? Sony filed in a large-corporation friendly district to make certain that they got a good verdict. Nastier work…

    • @justlisten1700
      @justlisten1700 7 місяців тому +1

      Good luck 🍀... Musicians keep doing what you doing I'm done

  • @AwokenEntertainment
    @AwokenEntertainment 6 місяців тому +30

    it's crazy seeing AI morph the music industry in real time..

    • @nazzz634
      @nazzz634 5 місяців тому +1

      This is not an AI issue. Nothing about AI here what are u talking about?

  • @IFechiMusic
    @IFechiMusic 7 місяців тому +12

    if they sue you,your in the good way,use all the samples guys,, get sued,, thats how you grow,

  • @MeltWithU
    @MeltWithU 7 місяців тому +19

    Here’s the thing, did the sample pack company get rights to sell those samples? If not, then it’s on the sample pack company. the thing is, I see people online sampling stuff from commercial music that is copyrighted all of the time. the thing is, without the express written consent and contract with the Artist… It is copyright infringement. whoever owns the rights to that music, is the owner of every beat and every note played and word sung.
    Whether it be a five or 10 second sample or the entirety of the song… It is still copywritten. Now, in this situation… Where the sample came from a collection that I’m guessing he bought… Then the express written agreement may or may not include commercial replication of those samples. Unless the company who makes the samples has an agreement with the artist who originally wrote the song those samples came from. But again, it would have to allow for those who use the samples to be able to do so in a commercial fashion.
    Meaning, if their song goes to number one on the charts there would be nothing that Artist could do to sue anybody who uses them. Again, only if there was a clause in the contract that gave anybody who used the samples, the right to use them in a commercial fashion. That’s where it gets sticky. All of this falls on the company who released those samples, but also on the bi-laws that the artist who used those samples agreed to when they bought them. Meaning that there is always fine print that states how the samples can be used. That you agree to when you purchase them.
    Which is a situation for anybody who uses samples or makes them. Because if you do not have permission from the copyright holders to use the samples, they can sue you. Which they will probably not do unless your song rises up the charts or goes viral like this one did. you have to understand, that artists don’t make that much money from the music anymore. They make it from touring. so, if somebody uses a sample from their music that ends up making that person who used the sample money… then, the artist who wrote the music originally is entitled to a cut. Unless there was an agreement beforehand.

    • @kriticalmass
      @kriticalmass 7 місяців тому +5

      Well said bruh. Curtis should have covered the responsibility of the sample pack company in this law suit. Like, can Trefuego sue them for not making it clear that the sample pack includes samples from signed artist. I think Tre may have a case, depending on what you highlighted.

    • @joechapman8208
      @joechapman8208 7 місяців тому +1

      Morally, it should be on the sample company. Legally, it's not; it's on you because you made and released the music, and you can't point a finger at someone else. Maybe they get in trouble too, but it won't save you. Doesn't matter if there was a T & C supplied with the samples or not.

  • @QueMusiQ
    @QueMusiQ 7 місяців тому +11

    8:43 same thing happened when Nas started “Oochie Wally” with “I got some freaks in the living room gittin it on, and/they ain’t leaving til -“ yeah. You can’t restate bars of another song. That’s interpolation. You don’t have to clear it, but you WILL owe interpolation royalties. #StudiedMusicLaw

  • @lilredandbunnytracks5164
    @lilredandbunnytracks5164 6 місяців тому +4

    The boat that people repeatedly miss with the Truefuego story is that they reached out to him MULTIPLE times and he DID NOT respond. For those trying to clear samples, if you at least have a PRO search the database to see which publisher you have to contact to clear it. Send them an email. They will eventually respond, you will be given an amount of money it may cost or a range and have to share information about your song as well as an audio file. You will be given warnings about what you can and can't do with the song going forward. ALWAYS assume the beatmaker/producer didn't clear the sample first and search the PDF of your lease to see if anyone else is credited in the samples used area. Make sure your distributor is using soundscan technology to check for samples and to clear whatever you're releasing first. Ours will tell us every time a sample was used and if another artist or composer was involved and what licensing we need to provide them with to go further. Situations like this stem from a lack of due diligence, not dotting i's or crossing t's. If you want to be in the business then learn the business. Learn what you need to do to make money off it or release it legally. ~J. Bunny

  • @LordHaveMurcielago
    @LordHaveMurcielago 7 місяців тому +14

    6:58 lol @ “damages to Sony” as if some dude uploading a song with an uncleared sample would really effect Sony in any way. They’d still be operating with or without this situation.

    • @donruga627
      @donruga627 6 місяців тому

      It’s more that Sony didn’t have their hands in making the artists so they have to get in your business somehow

  • @RealDealy
    @RealDealy 7 місяців тому +11

    That's why in the old school, we chopped ANY sample, and changed the frequencies. Just cause they SAY it's cool doesn't mean it WILL be cool once the money comes in. It's the music business, you can't trust anyone
    If you can't prove it's the same sample, can't sue & win!

    • @cgillsf
      @cgillsf 6 місяців тому

      Word!

    • @jsun7972
      @jsun7972 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah and then you have people uploading remakes of your beats showing where you got it and what you did to alter it. Snitching basically.

    • @RealDealy
      @RealDealy 6 місяців тому

      @@jsun7972 how would they know for sure? Again, if they can’t prove it’s the same sample they can’t win the case
      The issue is people want to just loop samples in 2024 like it’s still new when they need to be creative. Looped samples been dead, I don’t respect a producer who just loops samples with drum beats over them like we’re living in 1988

    • @Hype2k23
      @Hype2k23 6 місяців тому

      @@jsun7972😂😂😂😂😂 💯 man all the videos I seen breaking down old songs from the 2000s using samples but you won’t even notice it in the actual beat if it wasn’t for that UA-cam video explaining it

  • @SoulOfTheSouth
    @SoulOfTheSouth 7 місяців тому +16

    That’s why you gotta chop samples into bits and change the pitch. Make it different than the original. A lot of people always loop samples in their beats and the samples can get recognized. I always stay away from looping.

    • @OZKitchen
      @OZKitchen 7 місяців тому +4

      They got ai to detect that

    • @jamesjr2550
      @jamesjr2550 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@OZKitchen not if u turn the samples into pads and using them as sound design instruments i take samples and use granular synths to make new sounds

    • @OZKitchen
      @OZKitchen 6 місяців тому

      @jamesjr2550 yeah fair enough if you're just using audio as a source for new sound design you would never get caught anyway

  • @soufpro
    @soufpro 7 місяців тому +87

    It's almost illegal to make beats...🙄

    • @CurtissKingTV
      @CurtissKingTV  7 місяців тому +23

      🤣 not YET but I HEAR YOU

    • @samthesomniator
      @samthesomniator 7 місяців тому +18

      Just weeks away from sony claiming copyright for the notes ABCDEFG. And those semitones between them. 😁😂 Deal with it.

    • @aishine8184
      @aishine8184 7 місяців тому +1

      People are too lazy and greedy like there is no reason to clear a sample with all the ways to get around it it may be slower but I can guarantee it you are gonna eat

    • @djvarangian
      @djvarangian 7 місяців тому +6

      For Real - The same thing happened with DJ mixing. I've experienced situations & people where they think DJ mixing by default infringes theirs or other's rights! 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @IzzyCrazybeats
      @IzzyCrazybeats 7 місяців тому +5

      Bro open the piano roll use them ghost notes be original

  • @racksityentertainment
    @racksityentertainment 7 місяців тому +14

    They sue if they see you succeed.
    😂

    • @justinjones2595
      @justinjones2595 6 місяців тому +4

      Yup, its rare they go after anyone not making money

    • @timwhiteside9971
      @timwhiteside9971 6 місяців тому

      would'nt you ?

    • @donruga627
      @donruga627 6 місяців тому +1

      That’s what I was thinking. They see nobody need them anymore

  • @hernangonzalez8624
    @hernangonzalez8624 7 місяців тому +7

    Speaking from experience, it does slightly fall on an artist to clear samples they use, regardless if they used samples from royalty-free packs like Splice. As a Sound Designer, I always have to confirm clearance when I’m selling packs to clients it’s standard practice. This happens when people try to pass off other’s catalogs as their own and over saturate the market. I’m confused why this is Sonys problem? How did the sample align with a project of theirs? Where’s that thread?

    • @bentinho
      @bentinho 7 місяців тому +1

      I'm pretty sure it was a Sony Music published song the sample was from...

  • @Jonnydea
    @Jonnydea 7 місяців тому +30

    It just gives a huge advantage to the top 1% who can clear anything they want

    • @masons809
      @masons809 7 місяців тому +12

      Right!!! How is an independent artist with limited finances gonna be able to clear a sample?

    • @2xMint
      @2xMint 7 місяців тому +1

      Just don’t use samples 😂

    • @Jonnydea
      @Jonnydea 7 місяців тому +3

      @@2xMint I love sampling tracks though lol

    • @ChelseaMonet
      @ChelseaMonet 7 місяців тому +2

      @@2xMintwhat they are saying I’m pretty sure is like more than HALF of top hits (billboard hits makifn money selling tickets type of artist) are sampled based these days

  • @katyg3873
    @katyg3873 7 місяців тому +2

    The general rule is, is it’s up to the artist or artists label you sell/give your beat to to clear the sample for release. As a producer/beat maker you don’t need to clear anything really. Especially if you’re giving it away for free online.

  • @Checkmateyourmovemedia
    @Checkmateyourmovemedia 7 місяців тому +5

    It’s all about the LLC people that’s how you keep the legal responsibility from being personal

    • @jurassicthunder
      @jurassicthunder 6 місяців тому

      its just a protection of personal wealth. you'll still get sued no matter what.

  • @FonkedUpProductions
    @FonkedUpProductions 7 місяців тому +53

    I'm hip hop, I'm sampling 🤷🏽

    • @GriffinPoole
      @GriffinPoole 7 місяців тому +6

      the roots is hiphop too & they don't sample, obviously u don't know what hiphop is if u think samplin is what makes it hiphop... same way rappin over a beat doesn't make it hiphop

    • @FonkedUpProductions
      @FonkedUpProductions 7 місяців тому +8

      @GriffinPoole I agree the roots are hip hop if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. But listen to any of the pioneers when they talk sampling they all say "this is hip hop we gonna sample" from Preem to Pete Rock to DJ Quik. But yes The Roots too are hip hop and they don't sample.

    • @chilisaucecritic
      @chilisaucecritic 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@FonkedUpProductions I agree my last album was hip hop and I played all the music myself play my own instruments and creating loops by breaking up things I play into 5 second segments

    • @GriffinPoole
      @GriffinPoole 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@FonkedUpProductions ur basically sayin ur hiphop becuz u sample, there's a BIG difference between u & the pioneers of hiphop... and the 3 ppl u named are all innovators - they've all created a sound all their own & ppl love it , that's what makes em special... do u even know what the fundamentals of hiphop are???

    • @FonkedUpProductions
      @FonkedUpProductions 7 місяців тому

      @GriffinPoole again, if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. You cannot sample and be equally be hip hop and it'll be for the same reason. I know hip hop in and out, do you? And I'm not just talking about rappers, I know hip hop.

  • @JayPluss
    @JayPluss 7 місяців тому +3

    So sampling is taboo now, loop packs can't be trusted, Splice is overused, AI is suspicious. Producers are doomed.

  • @EarthEagleGT
    @EarthEagleGT 7 місяців тому +6

    I don’t agree with Dupree too much cause the industry he spearheaded has screwed over so many artist and the “business” he wants to go back to has never been fair

  • @CampLawry
    @CampLawry 7 місяців тому +4

    Definitely told the class about them packs! I’ll be showing them this

  • @FLAVMEDIA
    @FLAVMEDIA 7 місяців тому +6

    THIS IS THE DOWN FALL FOR US TO START THINKING LIKE THE TERMINATOR A MACHINE:))

  • @tofuvisionstudios2877
    @tofuvisionstudios2877 7 місяців тому +13

    i will just dig deeper

  • @Shazzyhtown
    @Shazzyhtown 7 місяців тому +5

    Might be time for some of us to pick up an instrument possibly. They're clearly threatened by the indie artists and want to eat off of u by any means.

    • @OZKitchen
      @OZKitchen 7 місяців тому

      Good forbid ppl compose the actual music so time consuming

    • @noaffiliation-x8w
      @noaffiliation-x8w 6 місяців тому +1

      @@OZKitchen Sampling and micro chopping is composing and if you don't think that you know nothing about music mate. I play piano and bass and still choose to sample because of how much i love the art form of sample manipulation. 9th Wonder and other sample based producers run university courses and have spoken at oxford union about sampling.

  • @JayFlyMastering
    @JayFlyMastering 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m a engineer and mix and mastering engineer at Sony yes it’s true but only if the song blow up so you have time to get it clear but when it blow up it’s too late

  • @Sadiyyah314
    @Sadiyyah314 7 місяців тому +28

    Sadly, i can see pettiness like this increasing..especially if more artist start going the direct to consumer route. They’re gonna try to find a way to get in our pockets. Disgusting

    • @Ghost_Text
      @Ghost_Text 7 місяців тому

      This is just another sign between this and the streaming wars, social media wars, former big media execs working in youtube etc...
      that the internet transition into television 2.0 is near completion, and with all the red tape, hurdles and broadcast consolidation that comes with mainstream media.

    • @OZKitchen
      @OZKitchen 7 місяців тому +1

      So protecting your ip is petty? Ok

    • @TheAzurefang
      @TheAzurefang 7 місяців тому +1

      Why should you be allowed to sell work that you stole?

    • @Ghost_Text
      @Ghost_Text 7 місяців тому +3

      @@TheAzurefang if its from an actual royalty free pack they bought a license from a reputable source that should be fine. Consent is established
      If they lifted straight from copyrighted record w/o licensing and didnt clear it, thats when it can be issue. Or if maker of sample pack just chopped up copyrighted material and deceptively resold as royalty free.

  • @yellavelproductions
    @yellavelproductions 7 місяців тому +4

    Most of the time, if the producer plays their cards right, will include in the contract that any samples that need to be cleared is the sole responsibility of the artist who buys the beat. However, when the producer don't even know that it needs to be cleared...that's when it gets f'd up fr..smh

    • @katyg3873
      @katyg3873 7 місяців тому

      This. It falls on the artist/company the artist is with to clear it.

    • @yoshimutsu
      @yoshimutsu 6 місяців тому

      They assume because the sample is old the labels won't pay attention.

  • @donnytheflow
    @donnytheflow 7 місяців тому +2

    10:08 I think it's a concerted effort to keep labels relevant moving forward. Besides greed, if you could get an indie artist to be afraid of the "scary" process that is navigating the music business, then it continues the allure of the lucrative major label deal in the mind of the indie who couldn't be bothered with the behind the scenes

  • @nadispeterson7764
    @nadispeterson7764 7 місяців тому +1

    A good tip for seeing if Ai will pick the sample up is to shazam it once youve flipped it! Done this a few times and seems to work well - Heard this from another producer so thought I'd try too

  • @rehab-101-onsw
    @rehab-101-onsw 7 місяців тому +2

    Just read MBW article - homie didn't get charged because of using the sample, he got charged for not answering the complaint. He had a defense, he just didn't show up to tell on DistroKid.

  • @Sybyr
    @Sybyr 6 місяців тому +1

    Nahhh yo, that Pound Town Soul snippet is DEVIOUS on another level, foul nasty work 🫨

  • @lxrdox
    @lxrdox 6 місяців тому +2

    Yall better either wise up and chop to the point where its inrecognisable or stop sampling. They coming for any and everyone.

  • @goreallaone4492
    @goreallaone4492 7 місяців тому +1

    I loved your expose on her. As young boy it goes without saying I was captivated by her beauty. I hate that the industry and life chewed up and spit out another one!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @colbyisart
    @colbyisart 7 місяців тому +1

    That is why I love tracklib. Mainly because it is honest and I don't have to worry about things like this. 💯✌🏼🤷🏽

  • @jaypesogottagetit1902
    @jaypesogottagetit1902 7 місяців тому +15

    It’s a good thing that I don’t sample or buy samples packs

  • @monkisethojane2218
    @monkisethojane2218 7 місяців тому +1

    As an person works in the IT industry. I have learned to embrace technology. Because one can be obsolete overnight

  • @Blizz260
    @Blizz260 7 місяців тому +1

    I grew up in a small town with few other artists, I've created other artists and just changed my voice in the past, once ai came into the picture I started making music AS other artists like "Renlato'" and "Saint CNG" that sounded better doing different styles. recently checked out Udio and have been utilizing it in some very creative ways. its very powerful and I don't wanna get left behind so ima try to use it as much to my advantage as I can.

  • @TheTonyTitan
    @TheTonyTitan 7 місяців тому +18

    That pound town soul tho 💯😂

  • @Alckemy
    @Alckemy 7 місяців тому +1

    I mean this in the nicest way- and I mean no disrespect to any party here but the hip hop commmunity is pretty behind with getting behind sound design and getting familiar with the renaissance of sampling- resampling.
    You don’t need to be a sound design wizard, but especially now with ai and insane sample pack controversy, it’s a push to raise the standard and learn to mangle.
    Learn to mess around with a synth or fiddle with recordings and make your own stuff. You’ll be happier with coming up with new ideas you’d never imagine making in the first place.
    I’m not here to tell you how to make music but give you solution on how to avoid this problem.

  • @odenthebankai358
    @odenthebankai358 5 місяців тому +2

    But yet most the older artist from the 90s sampled every Marvin Gaye/ Isley brothers shaka khanand Aretha Franklin but my generation is getting shit on because we sample . Wasn’t hip hop created off sampling

  • @Guuu4998
    @Guuu4998 7 місяців тому +38

    Real producers and sample diggers don’t care about what they say

    • @Xtronoid
      @Xtronoid 7 місяців тому

      Kinda but

    • @ORIGINALDJZERO
      @ORIGINALDJZERO 7 місяців тому +9

      Real producers/artist get shit cleared, and if you don't care that's exactly what they want

    • @Guuu4998
      @Guuu4998 7 місяців тому +11

      @@ORIGINALDJZERO sample diggers true to crates do not care I promise u

    • @Guuu4998
      @Guuu4998 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ORIGINALDJZERO that’s y there is a thing called no sample snitching

    • @blodiaaa6990
      @blodiaaa6990 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ORIGINALDJZEROI guarantee you Alchemist ain't clearing his samples

  • @iamveetherhevelaytor
    @iamveetherhevelaytor 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent commentary bro King. The way that they’re trying to do us as independents feels mighty Skynet like. Can’t get with the AI music apps, definitely prefer that human touch when it comes to the music. Great work as always. Peace!

  • @kuandemarco5498
    @kuandemarco5498 7 місяців тому +4

    I'm an early adopter to AI. Great servant but terrible Master. It's not about the magic wand it's magician who makes it happen. The novelty affect the average user may have fun with and make something they like. But the dope stuff will still come from those who put in the work to make it fly. Ai can only emulate swag it can't make it. It's those who are creative that can take these tools and create something next level. Mid Wil be mid and that fire stays lit when that work is put in. And when I say work I'm not excluding ones imagination. Someone may not have the ability to play but they have a lot of dope sh*t they hear in their minds ear. It's all about figuring out what recipe is best for what you gonna serve. Peace!

    • @mrbinspire
      @mrbinspire 7 місяців тому

      ur a legend, thank you for taking the time to put that into words! spoken like a true artist 💯 peace! -Mr B

  • @cruxmind
    @cruxmind 7 місяців тому +2

    Trying to sell an unlicensed sample pack is way different than re-using a sample 😩

  • @rawwill3
    @rawwill3 7 місяців тому +4

    Bro, I understand. But keep in mind it already happened to traditional painting artist like my self, and I can still paint, maybe not as well as when I was young but I actually do have paintings on my easels. But I get the same feeling from mastering a well constructed prompt for A.I. to create what is in my imagination in seconds. And I can easily have that picture put on canvas and garments. So let's please do as you said and use A.I. to create some of the tunes that previously took us days to produce and use it as samples, I still have to add to it in my DAW anyway. A.I. is the new tool for creative people accept it. It will be here longer than us anyway. Much love Curtis, thanks for all of the lessons.

  • @Ghost_Text
    @Ghost_Text 7 місяців тому +5

    Stick to Kontakt VSTs I suppose? Another question I got is where does content ID fall in and would the algorithm give false positives for similar sounds?

  • @Jala_haru
    @Jala_haru 7 місяців тому +2

    The producer probably sampled it from a curated playlist. That song is very famous.

  • @valdi7777
    @valdi7777 6 місяців тому

    I was reading "All you need to know about the music business" and, indeed, as you said, they dont go hard on producers or distributors. For example, producers sometimes take 3 points of the master, and, artists gotta make an initial payment for producing the song. Then, artists gotta recoup their 3 percent before earning something.

  • @LighttheCelestial
    @LighttheCelestial 6 місяців тому +2

    Bro this shit is insane as an DIY. The only reason i dont quit is cause i was born like this. This shit sucks more and more daily fr. Just venting. Just venting.

  • @madeinwyomingbeatz6811
    @madeinwyomingbeatz6811 7 місяців тому +1

    Having a detection system for distrokid would be cool. Before you upload any song you have to check a mandatory box saying you own and have the permission to sell and collect royalties for the track. If you dont, dont check the box and upload

  • @bg4productionsllc
    @bg4productionsllc 6 місяців тому

    Lander does what you're talking about as far as checking the songs for samples. I get flagged every now and then, but that's also one of the reasons why I use Landers sample pack and distribution together to streamline that process and save time and energy

  • @tracksphantom540
    @tracksphantom540 7 місяців тому +7

    Looks like music producers will have to get more creative making their own samples or beats and get a piece of the pie at a higher percentage or point ❤🎉

  • @riffmason
    @riffmason 5 місяців тому

    Sound is everywhere and it's free we cant be letting these record companies do us like this, I went to the park a while back and there was a guy genuinely sampling the metal gate because it sounded like a horn, everyone knows about the street drummers on pots and pans, All power to people using sample packs if they want to but literally EVERYTHING makes a sound, sound is everywhere like the air we breathe. I'm composing for a videogame, sampled a chef in a restaurant making a ghost noise, don't have to worry about other people using that from a sample pack, it's amazing what you can achieve just going out into the world with a microphone. If the industry is gonna try and move one way, we need to move another really.

  • @MightyD18
    @MightyD18 7 місяців тому +3

    We talking about the artist now tho!! Its an expensive marketing tactic if you ask me!!

  • @Ra3dar
    @Ra3dar 7 місяців тому

    My substitute for sampling is just flipping midi note's when im trying to get something quick out but other then that i just make my own samples.

  • @Notorious_G.O.D_76
    @Notorious_G.O.D_76 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm a up coming beat maker. Although I make my original made beats but every once in a while I do sample....Sampling is part of the hip hop culture ...I don't see it like stealing. I see it like we showing musical apprecriation to the greats before us ...I do Boom Bap heavy East Coast beats. Know that alone I like to chop sounds add my bass, add a little reverb....then add my scratches, my chopped samples...then take my EQ to clean out the sample & my drums. Last thing I do is master the whole project...put on a dat & whaalaah we got a beat done. I think the industry using artist for sampling is buggin'. If they trying to go after rap artist that sample....then what about when R&B uses samples? What about pop music uses sampling ? Even house , rock n roll, & gospel sample music. My advice to any up coming artist that want to use a sample sound....just make sure you clear it with the original artist or band. You don't want to be caught up in legal situation. Again, pay for your samples the right way & you'll be aight.....
    🎹🎧🎤🎸🎹🎧🎤🎸

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 7 місяців тому +51

    Use tracklib 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @elonkush8013
      @elonkush8013 7 місяців тому +17

      Tracklib is dope, I just wish they had a bigger library

    • @BeatsByCed
      @BeatsByCed 7 місяців тому

      Yep

    • @SoulOfTheSouth
      @SoulOfTheSouth 7 місяців тому

      @@elonkush8013Me too

    • @bboymac84
      @bboymac84 7 місяців тому

      @@elonkush8013 it’s growing

    • @DaDonBitterVonWan
      @DaDonBitterVonWan 7 місяців тому +1

      Brodie my bro SlightWorkSaid just told me bout tracklib maybe a week ago

  • @storexxmuzik
    @storexxmuzik 7 місяців тому

    We must stand up as musicians and set boundaries and standards for our Industry

  • @Robultrabeatz
    @Robultrabeatz 7 місяців тому +6

    Tracklib all day. Done

  • @tofuvisionstudios2877
    @tofuvisionstudios2877 7 місяців тому +13

    Never Never Ever Ever Never will i stop

  • @tashynemusic
    @tashynemusic 5 місяців тому

    That's crazy. That's why i sample myself from old songs that i did. Im from Texas so on my screwed and chopped hooks or bridges i just sample myself and screw and chop it for a new song if need be. People think it's samples from other Texas artist but it's all me. And i will always sample myself. Looks like i been a step ahead for a while now.

  • @MultifacetsOfDeMarcus
    @MultifacetsOfDeMarcus 7 місяців тому +1

    Sheesh. How are producers like Cookin’ Soul, Metro, Alchemist, etc. able to get their samples approved and uploaded on these types of platforms?

  • @wormsali
    @wormsali 7 місяців тому +2

    You should use software to check the sample yourself OR just ONLY use samples that have been vetted

  • @michandz3948
    @michandz3948 7 місяців тому

    There are a ton of affordable sample clearance and leasing routes nowadays. No need to get sued and if you lease and do paperwork for the lease. Then the liability routes that way

  • @OnTheHillMediaLLC
    @OnTheHillMediaLLC 7 місяців тому

    I think what’s interesting is when the label takes a project from the indie artist that’s not cleared or payed for but there it nobody to represent the artist when it’s time to sue the major labels

  • @writesongs
    @writesongs 6 місяців тому +4

    Make your own beats. Create your own stuff

  • @gambitofficial4236
    @gambitofficial4236 6 місяців тому

    At the end of the day homie is on the radar and can capitalize off the spotlight. Long as he keeps grinding and putting out quality tunes. Go on tour, merch, etc

  • @cgillsf
    @cgillsf 6 місяців тому

    This is a hard one! Mega Corp. going after an individual artist and an Indy artist at that is bullshit. On the other side, copyright exists for a reason. I really feel like artists should be acknowledged and compensated for extended sampling (I.e. large musical phrases). If your hook is the entire melody of another song that needs to be acknowledged. If people producing “sample packs“ are including those types of content, they need to give heads up to people buying those sample packs. The easy solution compose your own hooks and go back to old-school sampling!

  • @vinny-rebel
    @vinny-rebel 6 місяців тому

    GREAT VIDEO Curtis!!
    I just realized why Sony was refusing to clear a sample watching this video. You mentioned a workaround to get samples cleared through different websites. Can you hit me up with some links please?

  • @SpyderBlackOfficial
    @SpyderBlackOfficial 6 місяців тому +1

    That New stem separation movement is Another can of worms lol

  • @D_Tuned
    @D_Tuned 7 місяців тому +1

    Hip hop has been litigious since day one. Rappers Delight had stolen prodution from "Good Times" by Chic. The songwriters Nile Ridger and Bernard Edwards threatened to sue and ended up getting writing credit. At this point its a 45 yr old tradition.

  • @kingchad7490
    @kingchad7490 7 місяців тому +4

    It’s not fair for the artist 🎤✍🏾📚

  • @Theonly_Onyx
    @Theonly_Onyx 6 місяців тому +1

    When people start hyping AI is when i get suspicious of them.
    That's like saying slavery makes you a better person in the end.
    We don't need AI helping us do anything except look for serial killers, and honestly probably not even that

  • @chilisaucecritic
    @chilisaucecritic 7 місяців тому +2

    Also I think this should be scary as hell for the beat makers who make "type beats" the way things are going now those dudes are playing with fire.

    • @freshestinclass763
      @freshestinclass763 7 місяців тому

      The age of the replica is over

    • @chilisaucecritic
      @chilisaucecritic 7 місяців тому

      @@freshestinclass763 and the thing is they aren't going to come after you until you've already gone viral and you just started making good money

  • @Stellarspace95
    @Stellarspace95 7 місяців тому

    Well, finally. it’s a good incentive to actually making an original beat lol I hear wayyy too many sample packs being used (creatively so indeed) but no actual composition is happening anywhere

  • @djvarangian
    @djvarangian 7 місяців тому +1

    I've been warning about the inherent danger of huge Subscription Sample Libraries like Splyce.
    I've had a supposedly Cleared Vocal NERF Licenced Sample flag CID, this alerted me to the fact Copyright ©️ Protection Systems, confusion over Sampling Legalities & predatory business practice would converge.
    The net result being swathes of new Indie Artists putting their necks on a chopping block that they can't see.
    I steer clear of bulk non exlusive sample packs, I tend to limit myself to hits & one shots like a Perc Hit for a Drum Pad. Melodic chord progressions should be avoided, & I would advise never use a vocal sample from a Library that's not chopped & glitched.
    ⚡I've heard of other Producers checking their tracks on Shazam. YT is useful too. Hadn't thought of that.
    Peace 🙏🏻 Love from New Zealand 🇳🇿🎶

  • @itusvirus
    @itusvirus 7 місяців тому +2

    Dont'worry artists. Just get yourself them juicy AI samples and you are good to go. This is the end of the record label madness. These lawsuits are just convulsions before rigor mortis sets in.

  • @AIBangers4u
    @AIBangers4u 6 місяців тому +1

    You are correct. Sampling as we know it, is dead. AI can make a "sample" that has never been created before.

  • @ellislegato2238
    @ellislegato2238 7 місяців тому +1

    Amazing how songs go platinum on tiktok and never get heard anywhere else in the world, or any other platform

    • @AngelA-zz8ph
      @AngelA-zz8ph 6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the comment. Now I know I,m not alone or totally dumb

  • @PdWOLFG4NG
    @PdWOLFG4NG 7 місяців тому +1

    This is what happens when you pass through "their gate" without their clearance 😅

  • @TheWorldsNo1Superstar
    @TheWorldsNo1Superstar 7 місяців тому +1

    Curtis, this has to STOP! The entertainment industry is all about sharing a piece of the pie. Artists keep crying 😢 over this and that, but the labels, distributors, and production companies and streaming services all are putting out energy to move things forward. The indie or signed artist keep it all is NOT right either. Let's open our eyes. Share, share, share the wealth, and We all WIN. #sidowsobrino

  • @TabletClassAct-sc4ro
    @TabletClassAct-sc4ro 6 місяців тому

    They can take 90% of my blow up song if it makes me solidified in the industry, now I'm in game and I move smarter on the next songs. Y'all gotta play the game smarter. Don't be afraid to pay your dues bro

  • @EZIEKIEL26
    @EZIEKIEL26 7 місяців тому +3

    🚨UPDATE ALERT!!🚨
    Per Billboard:
    Tupac Shakur’s Estate Threatens to Sue Drake Over Diss Track Featuring AI-Generated Tupac Voice.
    In a cease-and-desist letter to Drake obtained exclusively by Billboard, the late rapper's estate says it is "deeply dismayed" and would "never have given its approval."