Crawler Canyon Quick(re)view: Stealth XF Gearbox kit
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2023
- My definition of "quick" might not fall in line with others. But I've got you know, things to say. I call these a "quickview" because it covers unboxing and initial testing. It does not speak to durability, longevity, etc.
This is the "quick" review of (finally) the Stealth XF gearbox from Element. Motor forward, hop-up bits, 18% underdrive... but are we getting shrinkflated?
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Your definition of quick is totally fine by me and i would say all of the other CC followers. Nice gearbox, I think the plastic will be ok and is much quieter than all metal so owe shall see how it runs when ou fit it. Have a great day.
Interesting changes. I wonder there's just a little more precision in the gear mesh and lower heat with the bearings vs bushings? I think you nailed the Associated upgrade model but I think we also know they generally sell a durable product out of the box. We'll see how this one does long term 👍
I like it! I run as many of the plastic gears (the off white version, not the white SE versions) in my SE trans as I can for weight reduction. I will eventually put one of these in my SE and use the SE tranz in a different rig. Thanks for the quick view. 😎
I see these are due in the UK around the 12th of this month.
I'm so happy you've done a quick (re)view on this... I will now be putting in a preorder 👍
Can’t wait to try the XF. Good callout for the DIG! I’m sure Element was listening!
You had to go and mention XF dig…it’s all I will dream about now tonight!
Enjoying watching while I take my son's brand new SE apart to adjust the slipper. Won't even try to spin the tires on a smooth rock face. Haha just slips. He's 4 and now knows what traction control is in RC. Haha.
Yep. Pretty much everybody I know that's dealt with an XF will tell you two things: the factory slipper setting is too loose, and tightening it is a real pain.
I need one of these!
I'm really shocked that Associated/Element hasn't produced a good dig unit yet. Axial and Vanquish have offered dig units for quite a while now. I'm waiting!😊
Awesome possum 🎉🎉❤❤
I got an Amazon dig gearbox in one of my builds but I think I might swap it for one of these 😬
Nice look inside appreciate it, buuut the white plastic scares me my rig came with a white spur and it stripped in short course, have also seen a lot of associated cr12 videos talking about those white gears and how bad they strip. Time will tell thanks so much.
I think that gearbox would be an excellent choice with the plastic gears for a super light build
I’d be interested to know what you think of this vs the AD Foxbelly and flat skid?
I guess in favour of this, better shaft angles, forward motor, nice guts (though plastic)? In favour of the Foxbelly, flat skid, uses existing X?
I ordered the Foxbelly but haven’t had a chance to fit it to my Element yet but this seems pretty tempting, especially like you said it’s new and innovative but I struggle with the belly dragging a bit on my rig/terrain so I’m wondering how much the extra clearance counts for.
Great vid as always man and great insights, thanks!
I started and erased and started again on a response like half a dozen times. I'm gonna have to cover this in the weekly update this week, because I think it's too long to write out here.
@@CrawlerCanyon thanks man perfect, hopefully I haven’t thrown too much at you but I really value your insights.
@@CrawlerCanyon sorry too mate, I have been looking to join the members thing to pay it back, I didn't realise it didn't show up on apple stuff as I always watch on the phone or TV, but finally cracked the code by using a laptop.
I hope when you put that in a truck, you weigh it with the stealth X weight bias and then with the new transmission to see how much weight is moved forward. I am waiting for that video so I can make my final decision. But I like what I see so far and I am not afraid of them plastic gears. Happy fourth.
Will it fit on custom rails?
Skid is the same bolt pattern as a "normal" Element skid, so it absolutely should.
Was looking to upgrade my knight walker and trail runner with this transmission. Do you recommend keeping the gears plastic?
The internal gears are fine, but the "intermediate" gear between the spur and pinion needs one of two things to happen: either put in a slipper instead of the eliminator, or the intermediate gear needs to be metal. I blew up the plastic one in fairly short order. The RTR Enduro SE comes with all metal gears above the output gears, so I don't know why the kit would have plastic there.
Gearing question. I'm using a 9imod outrunner 2250kv with a rhino esc. Stealth XF with Element axles, What gearing would you suggest for this setup?
As small as you can go. 18T, or 17T if that motor will allow it. BSH is running an 18T, and Baseline has a 1200SE, so he runs a 24T.
It will be a drop in into a stock element even with the stock battery location? Or the front battery tray will be needed to relocated?
Yeah, you'd for sure have to relocate the battery. The motor goes right through there.
Just said what I said earlier they're going to wait till those plastic ones free because there's a white plastic not nylon and then you have to buy the metal gear I don't understand why they don't make them out of Teflon I'm sure that's super Stout
Is it possible to put the overdrive out the rear for a mullet build?
Yes. You just need the topshaft from the regular Stealth gearbox, so that you can install the underdrive gear in the front. Same operation as flipping the Stealth X to run the motor plate flipped around.
@@CrawlerCanyon I'm finding it's slightly harder than expected. Had to cut a hole for the slipper nut threads to poke out of and also it looks like I need a sleeve to space the slipper since on the SF they flats are what locate it but on the X the flats run up too far. Just FYI to the next guy
Anyone know if the Team K&K 25% underdrive gears will fit in this? They work on the O.G. Stealth X.
The XF uses the same gears as the X, so I don’t see why not. Having not tried the K&K gears, it does look like there’s more room in the XF case compared to the X.
They work fine...I have a Stealth XF in an Ecto and I'm running KNK gears.
I think they are going to put all plastic in the SE trucks.
When mine shows up it's going straight in Dora.
"Stealth" means usually undetectable... Well that gearbox is huge and what is with those 100 screws on that thing??
Associated has called their transmissions "Stealth" for like 35 years.
I've always found plastic gears to be adequate in a crawler as long as the mesh is good. I've got an OG SCX10 with an all plastic gear 3-gear, and it's still running strong, and the gears look practically new, and that rig has well over 100 hours on it, probably a few hundred. That said, I treat my crawlers as crawlers...one side-effect in the crawling hobby I've seen since the TRX4 is a bunch of people treating their crawlers as bashers...if you put a 3000kv+ motor in a crawler and drive it like an asshole, of course it's gonna strip plastic.
nice gearbox ,unfortunately Associated do not ship them intl'
maybe Amain will carry them soon and then i'll get one/two
I wanted to order from Amain, but lately they've been getting everything after everyone else, and/or more expensive-- the FMS Atlas was $20 more on Amain and "Mfr. does not allow coupons." So I ordered from HRP for $249, and they had a $30 coupon. What's the deal, Amain? I need my points!
Jimbo...it depends where you live...if in Europe you could hit Ruddog rc and ask them😉
@@themountain59 thx i will look into it
You darn on gone well no they put that white cheap plastic in there so those tears will strip out so you have to buy steel and they're hoping you buy it from them
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Lol...there is actually something like a "professional thumbnail maker"?? 😅😅