While you MAY be able to get away with winter or spring Artic sailing in the Pacific,, its not wise to do that in regions where there are iceburgs like Newfoundland, Labrodar NE Canada. My practicle Coast Guard experience is there are thousands of bergy bits, house sized ice burg pieces invisible at night in the Western high Atlantic, especially in the Spring. You run into one and your boat sinks.
The Viator 42DS looks interesting. A new name for me, which I have not seen before, but will look into. The hybrid system makes it very interesting, not least the promise of a silent powered sail. I have been on a commercial fishing vessel for three years and I love sailing, but hate the sound of those droning diesel engines. I do love Garcia and Allures boats though, and actually are they build on the same shipyard, Allures actually, in best French boat building tradition, mostly being a brand of a Garcia inhouse design studio really, just like Jeanneau is to Beneteau. Garcia does not promise their catamaran to be suitable for Arctic or Antarctic sailing, but absolutely blue water and high latitude capable, which is not the same. People maybe trade a bit of the extreme performance with that one, but then win massive amounts of accommodation and comfort. I only have one thing to complain about with that one: I wish Garcia had gone all in on the forward cockpit, as Windelo: Both those helm positions, which they offer, are compromised. The dual open ones are fully exposed to the weather at all times and the raised Seawind style one in bad weather demands full lights out at the deck level living condition at night time. If you go to high latitudes at winter, which it is capable of, then that is lights out in your galley and living space for up to 18 hours of every day. The Garcia Exploration Cat does however by no means have a starting price of 700k Euro, which also would make it a catamaran bargain in the 50 feet range, and it is an absolutely high quality aluminium build. Try an absolutely bare bone base price of 1,7 million Euro instead! My favorite for this purpose of sailing though, you have somehow overlooked, which is also the one, that offers most value for the money: Alubat Ovni 37DS. Same overall layout as Garcia and Viator, but more protected cockpit and a true deck saloon, where you have full visibility to all sides from the entire central living space. It also is build in high grade marine aluminium, comes with lifting keel and can dry fall, and it got a base price of 280k Euro. Absolutely makes it a bargain explorer ready yacht. I also love Sirius yachts, but they are not build in aluminium, unfortunately.
I checked out the Cigale 15. A smart an impressive looking boat but more a blue water cruiser than an explorer yacht, but I will certainly consider putting it in a future for review,
Carbon fibre is most used only for performance boats mainly because of the cost. Carbon Fibre is very strong and light, I don't know the number of layers required but it is much stronger and lighter than aluminium.but full a carbon boat would cost multiples of an aluminium and fibreglass boat. Manufacturers like Outremer and HH are now using carbon for major structural components but using fibreglass and aluminium for the majority of the boat to keep costs down. The Outremer 55 and the HH44OC and HH52OC are examples of this.
Very few take this view. Seriously. Everyone else is about the lightest possible boats. Translation carbon fiber. But, as an engineer, no fiber boat in icy water for me. The fundamentals of materials tell me everything I need to know about where you can go in a Gunboat and where you cannot go. No ice = Gunboat. Not that you want to hit ice, Nuts to that, but it is impossible to not hit smaller chunks. Thanks again. Yes, aluminum is the material of choice.
I think it's a matter of matching purpose and use with material. You want to go to the Artic Circle...aluminium. Want speed and performance to do a little racing on the side....carbon fibre. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Only the Pelagic is a true Explorer sail boat. All the rest have varying weaknesses that make them dangerous in high latitude big seas (electric motors a joke for long distance, in mast furling dangerous in a big blow, dagger board with bulb dangerous when grounded, catamaran unsafe in ice, etc.). Real Explorer boats are one offs... simple rigs, keels that can take grounding, extra thick metal hulls, no fancy systems to breakdown when you are a thousand miles or more from the nearest help... Explorer boats that don't sail well unless it's blowing hard... so not good in the tropics.
There are lots of good boats out there unfortunately not all come across my radar. Alubat certainly seem to build very good boats. Thanks for watching.
Unless I misset it, none of these boats have an inside helm station. Perhaps I am too old to steer outside when the air temp is below 0C and it is snowing.
The viator 42 is actually a Berckemeyer yacht designed by Martin Menzner. His designs are very impressive go anywhere boats and fast. Also, the cat while cool is questionable in this lineup. How about all the KM boats?
KM were actually the builders for the custom Pelargic 77. I included the cat for diversity and I'm guessing this won't be the last cat but it's true it's probably not as robust as some of the other boats, but for people who want to stretch the cruising boundaries but not reach the arctic circles it maybe a god choice.
@@crazyaboutboats6901 … yes KM built the 77, but for comparison, the Bestevaer would make a better comparison and within the same price ranges. Compare those to Ovnis and allures for semi custom boats. The Berckemeyer are more custom one offs. Cigale has this awesome aft salon… Aluminum boats are having a renaissance these days. Very cool. Distant shores is building one too.
the only boat i consider to be a true explorer in this line up is the pellagic. and that is because of her design. not her size. the others are racing hulls that do not lend themselves to the idea of long term voyages. and the Cat?? seriously????
I agree , but the Pellagic is a purpose built commercial boat in a class by itself. Take her out of the Drake straits and she’s just a fuel guzzling Motorsailer . The problem in designing a true go anywhere Sailboat is not crossing the line into Motorsailer .
@@theespjames4114 if you take any boat into an area where the winds can go from 15 to 60 knots in ten minutes you will be very glad you have that fuel guzzling monster. period. patagonia is a prime example.
I would classify the Pellagic as an expedition yacht as it is a custom design and and build, and is available for charter for people who want to go to the most extreme places. The other boats are all commercially available and are aimed at the cruiser market to enable a cruising couple to expand the range of places they can sail to. They are both valid and have different purposes.
@@TheCort1971 I agree , having twin diesel engines producing 300 hp certainly helps. But the Straits of Magellan is navigated every day by Sailboats with small diesel backup. Of course it requires knowledge and skill.
As an expert in this field, I’d advise all true explorer sailboats would have steal hulls designed and certified to be exposed to ice, and be of motorsailer design. Multi hulls are a strict no no. Enclosed pilot house is a requirement. Limp home diesel emergency power (yanmar) is required. I could go on….
I guess there are different levels of extreme and you nee to know where you are going and what you expect of the boat and match it to these so you are not inviting danger. Thanks for your comment.
1 min into this and you’ve just told us the boat has two 15 kilometre electric motors! You’re reading off a sheet and can’t say kilowatts? Did you even listen to the finished product and edit errors like this? You also said prised instead of comprised. Reading from the advertising blurb is just lazy too. I think 1 minute is enough to sit through.
Sorry I'm not perfect. There is a lot more effort that goes into making one of these than you would understand an although I make every attempt to remove the glitches but sometimes I miss them.
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Amazing sailboats ⛵️! Mike from Missouri
1- Garcia Exploration 60, 2- Garcia Exploration 52 / Boreal 55 OC, 3- Allures 51.9.
Good choices.
Am I the only one who prefers Novak's boat?
@@bostonagile no you are not alone I love novas vessels especially vinson of Antarctica
While you MAY be able to get away with winter or spring Artic sailing in the Pacific,, its not wise to do that in regions where there are iceburgs like Newfoundland, Labrodar NE Canada. My practicle Coast Guard experience is there are thousands of bergy bits, house sized ice burg pieces invisible at night in the Western high Atlantic, especially in the Spring. You run into one and your boat sinks.
Love the Garcia Cat!
A great boat!
Palegic all the way !
Certainly an amazing beast of a boat!
Thanks for sharing the approximate cost of these exploration yachts. 👍
I don't get Garcia with the Catamaran. How do you build an explorer and designa helm station that exposed?
Love it mate look forward to the next one thanks
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. Already working on the next one.
I would love to have any of them
Me too!
@@crazyaboutboats6901 yea I work for a jeannuea dealer now and been so spoiled delivering nice jeannuea 410s and 440s
Thanks for the run through on so many sweet rydes! No time wasted ; )
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Boreal 47.2
I hadn't come across it but certainly an impressive looking boat.
The Viator 42DS looks interesting. A new name for me, which I have not seen before, but will look into. The hybrid system makes it very interesting, not least the promise of a silent powered sail. I have been on a commercial fishing vessel for three years and I love sailing, but hate the sound of those droning diesel engines. I do love Garcia and Allures boats though, and actually are they build on the same shipyard, Allures actually, in best French boat building tradition, mostly being a brand of a Garcia inhouse design studio really, just like Jeanneau is to Beneteau. Garcia does not promise their catamaran to be suitable for Arctic or Antarctic sailing, but absolutely blue water and high latitude capable, which is not the same. People maybe trade a bit of the extreme performance with that one, but then win massive amounts of accommodation and comfort. I only have one thing to complain about with that one: I wish Garcia had gone all in on the forward cockpit, as Windelo: Both those helm positions, which they offer, are compromised. The dual open ones are fully exposed to the weather at all times and the raised Seawind style one in bad weather demands full lights out at the deck level living condition at night time. If you go to high latitudes at winter, which it is capable of, then that is lights out in your galley and living space for up to 18 hours of every day. The Garcia Exploration Cat does however by no means have a starting price of 700k Euro, which also would make it a catamaran bargain in the 50 feet range, and it is an absolutely high quality aluminium build. Try an absolutely bare bone base price of 1,7 million Euro instead! My favorite for this purpose of sailing though, you have somehow overlooked, which is also the one, that offers most value for the money: Alubat Ovni 37DS. Same overall layout as Garcia and Viator, but more protected cockpit and a true deck saloon, where you have full visibility to all sides from the entire central living space. It also is build in high grade marine aluminium, comes with lifting keel and can dry fall, and it got a base price of 280k Euro. Absolutely makes it a bargain explorer ready yacht. I also love Sirius yachts, but they are not build in aluminium, unfortunately.
Great analysis. thanks.
Gracia is the one!!
They are excellent sailboats.
Nice synopsis.
thanks. Glad you liked it.
Boreal 47.2 is also a good option.
The new Cigale 15 QR
I checked out the Cigale 15. A smart an impressive looking boat but more a blue water cruiser than an explorer yacht, but I will certainly consider putting it in a future for
review,
Would love to find out about the garcia 60 exploration
I'll see if I can squeeze it in in the future. Thanks for watching.
@@crazyaboutboats6901 thank you i would be grateful if you could
Would like to hear your opinion on the boats rather that just a regurgitation of copy from the brochures.
Didn‘t think much of this video. You missed Boreal yachts.
BOREAL 47.2
how much of the Garcia exploration45?
Is carbon fiber only for preformance boats ? Would 4 layers be as strong as aluminium?
Carbon fibre is most used only for performance boats mainly because of the cost. Carbon Fibre is very strong and light, I don't know the number of layers required but it is much stronger and lighter than aluminium.but full a carbon boat would cost multiples of an aluminium and fibreglass boat. Manufacturers like Outremer and HH are now using carbon for major structural components but using fibreglass and aluminium for the majority of the boat to keep costs down. The Outremer 55 and the HH44OC and HH52OC are examples of this.
@@crazyaboutboats6901 Being lighter, it also allows for taller mast which in turn allow for more sail area.
Sadly you forgot the very serious explorer sailboat Boreal 47.2
Yes. Someone else mentioned it yesterday. It does look like an amazing boat, unfortunately it didn't come across my radar.
Perhaps in a new video?
I love the 47.2 and live in one. 😊
4 mill euro one...how do i book it?
Why no metal hull trimerans
Very few take this view. Seriously. Everyone else is about the lightest possible boats. Translation carbon fiber. But, as an engineer, no fiber boat in icy water for me. The fundamentals of materials tell me everything I need to know about where you can go in a Gunboat and where you cannot go. No ice = Gunboat. Not that you want to hit ice, Nuts to that, but it is impossible to not hit smaller chunks. Thanks again. Yes, aluminum is the material of choice.
I think it's a matter of matching purpose and use with material. You want to go to the Artic Circle...aluminium. Want speed and performance to do a little racing on the side....carbon fibre. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Only the Pelagic is a true Explorer sail boat. All the rest have varying weaknesses that make them dangerous in high latitude big seas (electric motors a joke for long distance, in mast furling dangerous in a big blow, dagger board with bulb dangerous when grounded, catamaran unsafe in ice, etc.). Real Explorer boats are one offs... simple rigs, keels that can take grounding, extra thick metal hulls, no fancy systems to breakdown when you are a thousand miles or more from the nearest help... Explorer boats that don't sail well unless it's blowing hard... so not good in the tropics.
How about the Boreal range?
These look great. It's likely i'll do something on them in the future.
I dunno… that motor yacht you show does look pretty cool… 😇
Motor yachts have their place. Thanks for watching.
you have unfortunately forgotten to mention ALUBAT French construction in aluminum exploration boat .
There are lots of good boats out there unfortunately not all come across my radar. Alubat certainly seem to build very good boats. Thanks for watching.
Pangaea - Mike Horn ?
Paraty - Amyr Klink?
Serious adventurers.
Unless I misset it, none of these boats have an inside helm station. Perhaps I am too old to steer outside when the air temp is below 0C and it is snowing.
You're right. These yachts are not safe for ocean cruising.
Pangaea ? Tara ? Besteavers ? Explorer 50 ? Nanuq ? Qilak ?
So many options. So many great boats it's not possible to cover everything but I'll have a look at these and see if I can do something in the future.
The viator 42 is actually a Berckemeyer yacht designed by Martin Menzner. His designs are very impressive go anywhere boats and fast. Also, the cat while cool is questionable in this lineup. How about all the KM boats?
KM were actually the builders for the custom Pelargic 77. I included the cat for diversity and I'm guessing this won't be the last cat but it's true it's probably not as robust as some of the other boats, but for people who want to stretch the cruising boundaries but not reach the arctic circles it maybe a god choice.
@@crazyaboutboats6901 … yes KM built the 77, but for comparison, the Bestevaer would make a better comparison and within the same price ranges. Compare those to Ovnis and allures for semi custom boats. The Berckemeyer are more custom one offs. Cigale has this awesome aft salon…
Aluminum boats are having a renaissance these days. Very cool.
Distant shores is building one too.
@@holmalbrecht425 Devillier built Elcie YEARS ago and I'd happily take her into High Lat's.
the only boat i consider to be a true explorer in this line up is the pellagic. and that is because of her design. not her size. the others are racing hulls that do not lend themselves to the idea of long term voyages. and the Cat?? seriously????
Yes and Skips latest Vinson of Antarctica is another step forward, awesome boat.
I agree , but the Pellagic is a purpose built commercial boat in a class by itself. Take her out of the Drake straits and she’s just a fuel guzzling Motorsailer .
The problem in designing a true go anywhere Sailboat is not crossing the line into Motorsailer .
@@theespjames4114 if you take any boat into an area where the winds can go from 15 to 60 knots in ten minutes you will be very glad you have that fuel guzzling monster. period. patagonia is a prime example.
I would classify the Pellagic as an expedition yacht as it is a custom design and and build, and is available for charter for people who want to go to the most extreme places. The other boats are all commercially available and are aimed at the cruiser market to enable a cruising couple to expand the range of places they can sail to. They are both valid and have different purposes.
@@TheCort1971
I agree , having twin diesel engines producing 300 hp certainly helps. But the Straits of Magellan is navigated every day by Sailboats with small diesel backup. Of course it requires knowledge and skill.
3 of these are made in the same yard
True. Not intentional. I only realised this after I completed the video. There aren't that many manufacturers of aluminium boats.
Alubat 370??
FARTED !
I think the price on the Explocat 52 is way off? Base price 700,000 pounds ? Maybe twice that ?
Yeah I read somewhere it starts at 1,3M€
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🤔 only show flat/calm water in your video. You make these boats look like dock queens. So, so SAD!!!!!
Hard to find footage of boats sailing in really rough seas. I think the crews are to preoccupied with survival to pick up a camera and film.
As an expert in this field, I’d advise all true explorer sailboats would have steal hulls designed and certified to be exposed to ice, and be of motorsailer design. Multi hulls are a strict no no. Enclosed pilot house is a requirement. Limp home diesel emergency power (yanmar) is required. I could go on….
I guess there are different levels of extreme and you nee to know where you are going and what you expect of the boat and match it to these so you are not inviting danger. Thanks for your comment.
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amazing that you don't include caliber 40 LRC he he its an explorer sailboat that will not burn holes in your wallet.
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Glad you like it. Thanks!
Love all your info in this vid but that music has to go.
1 min into this and you’ve just told us the boat has two 15 kilometre electric motors! You’re reading off a sheet and can’t say kilowatts? Did you even listen to the finished product and edit errors like this? You also said prised instead of comprised. Reading from the advertising blurb is just lazy too. I think 1 minute is enough to sit through.
Sorry I'm not perfect. There is a lot more effort that goes into making one of these than you would understand an although I make every attempt to remove the glitches but sometimes I miss them.
Make your own video little bratt
@@crazyaboutboats6901fix it though it still says it
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