Epsilon -Delta proof for cubic function limit

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  • @Kwinnbujik
    @Kwinnbujik 13 днів тому

    I really appreciate the way factor the cubic function.
    Your prodigy in making hard things become completely livable is really unmatched.

  • @josephparrish7625
    @josephparrish7625 Рік тому +8

    This was always such a hard topic for my students to understand. You did an excellent job.

  • @amlalashhab1719
    @amlalashhab1719 10 місяців тому +1

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    ارجو المزيد من الفيديوهات في هدا الموضوع
    أتابعك من ليبيا 🇱🇾

  • @WritersDigest-b8f
    @WritersDigest-b8f 11 місяців тому +3

    2:59
    1. Write general Definition of a limit
    4:06
    2. Apply the if and then condition to the actual problem at hand from the general definition
    Thank u
    4:20
    3. Scratch work - look for delta as a function of epsilon
    13:00
    4. Check the delta chosen as a function of epsilon to prove the limit.
    |F(x) -L|< epsilon
    QED
    In short
    For scratch work
    |F(x)-L|
    leads to delta as a function of epsilon
    For proving the limit
    Delta leads to epsilon using
    |F(x)-L|?

  • @Smg-p5s
    @Smg-p5s Місяць тому

    You are a genius Sir. The explanations are simple and understandable

  • @anirbanpandit680
    @anirbanpandit680 Рік тому +3

    Man this is incredible , I wish i had you back in my college days. Till now i found this as the most effective and literally understandable video on yt. keep bringing up this type of videos...thanks a ton!

  • @WritersDigest-b8f
    @WritersDigest-b8f Рік тому +3

    Could u do more epsilon delta proofs for functions with polynomial in numerator and denominator, many more slightly harder proof for square root, reciprocal functions, trigonometric functions.
    Thank you so much, u educated with so much patience, love and a happy face, and explain every step.

  • @izzaimi8081
    @izzaimi8081 Рік тому +2

    AAAAA FINALLYY SOMEONE MADE VIDEO ABOUT THE CUBIC AND THE EXPLANATION WAS SOO PERFECTT LURVE LURVE LURVE!!!😭❤️❤️❤️

  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard Рік тому +7

    Finally, an epsilon-delta video I like! And you're even wearing my favorite hat!
    I really like your observation that there's always an |x-a| hiding in the |f(x) - f(a)|, and you have to get good at factoring it. This is where your videos on the definition of derivatives have trained us well, because we need to use the same skills: the ability to cope with "f(x+h) - f(x)" is pretty much what you need to cope with "f(x) - f(a)".
    In my experience, the main problem people have with epsilon-delta is conceptual: it's hard to see why we're doing this "f(x) - f(a)" business. So I think of it like this: imagine a rectangle centered at (a, L) that is tall enough, and narrow enough, that the function f(x) never touches the top or bottom edges of the rectangle. Now, can you also shrink that rectangle down to any size, all the way down to nothing, and f(x) still never touches the top or bottom edges? If you can work out the geometry of a rectangle that makes that possible, then it means that "x" reliably gets closer to "a" as f(x) gets closer to "L". And if you can say that, then the limit exists.
    The height of those rectangles is 2*epsilon (i.e. it goes from L - epsilon to L + epsilon), and the width of those rectangles is 2*delta (i.e. it goes from a - delta to a + delta). So that is the game, counterintuitively enough: if you can work out dimensions for the shrinking rectangle, then the limit exists.
    From there, it is as you described: you factor out an |x-a| and then deal with the rest. To clean up that mess, there are two tricks you can use: you can limit your delta to a narrow region around "a" (in this case you used a value of "1"), and then you replace the entire mess with a value that you are confident will be larger than the mess in the narrow region. At that point, you're actually shifting to doing epsilon-delta on a different and simpler function, and then counting on squeeze proof logic: if your simpler function satisfies epsilon-delta, so must the original function.
    We probably need to say that delta = min {1, epsilon / 5} so that we don't forget that we've restricted our deltas to that narrow region.

  • @MBVH59
    @MBVH59 6 місяців тому +1

    Grazie per la spiegazzione così chiara e semplice, sei molto didattico per spiegare questi concetti astratti,

  • @munashe16
    @munashe16 10 місяців тому +2

    this is very good. You are an excellent teacher

  • @EE-Spectrum
    @EE-Spectrum Рік тому +2

    I love this. I just love it. Thanks for such a lucid explanation of the Epsilon-Delta limit.

  • @marcbennet4346
    @marcbennet4346 8 місяців тому

    Je trouve votre style d'enseignement très sympathique et bien sûr efficace
    (I find your teaching style very nice and of course effective).

  • @AGTfan-se5ql
    @AGTfan-se5ql Рік тому +2

    Awesome video. Epsilon delta proofs were my favorite topic in advanced calculus

  • @TSR1942
    @TSR1942 11 місяців тому +4

    This guy is wonderful.

  • @silvo9460
    @silvo9460 Рік тому

    you are a amzaing teacher wow!. Keep posting!

  • @WritersDigest-b8f
    @WritersDigest-b8f Рік тому

    6:56
    We can also divide (x to the power 3 - 2x +1) by x-1 and get
    Thanks x to the power 2 +x-1 or
    Or by equating the coefficients of same powers of x.
    Thanks

  • @808Cult
    @808Cult Рік тому

    I’m loving your videos sir ,🔥🔥

  • @gideonob
    @gideonob Рік тому +1

    Wonderful exposition! Thank you!

  • @nothingbutmathproofs7150
    @nothingbutmathproofs7150 11 місяців тому +15

    Wait a minute. Your answer is not 100% correct. Since you restricted |x-1|< 5, then your answer should be that delta = d = min{1, epsilon/5}. That is, if epsilon is greater than 5, then you choose d =1. if epsilon

  • @nurathirah7999
    @nurathirah7999 Рік тому +1

    OMG I LOVE THIS ONE !! REALLY II HELPFUL THANKYOU SO MUCH ❤❤❤❤

  • @dawitgebeyehu9122
    @dawitgebeyehu9122 6 місяців тому

    tnx bro you really made it clear for me

  • @eastonpeter1242
    @eastonpeter1242 2 місяці тому

    Regarding August 28, 2023 "Epsilon-Delta" proof of cubic function.
    At 9:20 you presented an analogy/metaphor with "income and bills." Wonderful! Would it be possible with your busy schedule to continue the metaphor to the conclusion?

  • @JoeyV115
    @JoeyV115 Рік тому

    Stellar explanation! Thanks for the help

  • @BrainsLastain
    @BrainsLastain 2 місяці тому

    Helped a lot Sir

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi Рік тому +4

    Limitless math knowledge comes from Prime Newtons! 🎉😊

  • @charlizoh2319
    @charlizoh2319 6 місяців тому

    I am so greatful for this

  • @masoudhabibi700
    @masoudhabibi700 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your video... master

  • @nothingbutmathproofs7150
    @nothingbutmathproofs7150 11 місяців тому +1

    I got you on a minor error. Let d represent delta. As you say very carefully, d>0 so (as I am sure that you know) you need to say that 0

    • @PrimeNewtons
      @PrimeNewtons  11 місяців тому +1

      You are correct. There's a great chance I'd have to redo this video

    • @nothingbutmathproofs7150
      @nothingbutmathproofs7150 11 місяців тому

      ​@@PrimeNewtons Maybe we can do the video together?

  • @jensberling2341
    @jensberling2341 8 місяців тому

    Lovely and satisfying

  • @WECODEHERE-c1r
    @WECODEHERE-c1r Місяць тому

    I can't thank you enough

  • @AartVoskamp
    @AartVoskamp 10 місяців тому

    What a clear explanation. Thank you so much ! But i have one question: Within the range of delta = 1 there is between 0 and 2 a value of x that makes a zero of |x^2+x+1| at x = 0.618. Am i thinking the wrong way?

    • @tomtomspa
      @tomtomspa 9 місяців тому

      if it is zero , it will be less than epsilon for all epsilon. What's your problem?

  • @WritersDigest-b8f
    @WritersDigest-b8f 11 місяців тому

    Because |F(x) -L| gets a zero in the denominator between
    - 1.6 & 0.6. Does it have any impact on how big x-1 can it be or it’s still 5 times. Should this restriction be a consideration, or it does not have any impact on delta?

  • @biswambarpanda4468
    @biswambarpanda4468 9 місяців тому

    Long live my blissful sir

  • @dilipbanik9530
    @dilipbanik9530 Рік тому +1

    Why take a=1?

  • @delkerngono6438
    @delkerngono6438 Рік тому

    You're a genius!

  • @jensberling2341
    @jensberling2341 8 місяців тому

    Lovely and loveable

  • @SelamHabeti-gc8if
    @SelamHabeti-gc8if Рік тому +1

    Please make a video in proofing a trigonometric function in epsilon delta definition

  • @WritersDigest-b8f
    @WritersDigest-b8f 10 місяців тому

    Could u explain the following exercise?
    Prove
    Lim x tends to infinity
    4x2-3x+2/8x2-6x+1
    =1/2
    Tried to understand it with the help of someone else, it’s difficult to clearly understand.
    Thank you

    • @lagomoof
      @lagomoof 10 місяців тому

      Some parentheses to separate the terms and maybe a couple of carets (^) to indicate where 2 is a power might help make things more clear:
      (4x^2-3x+2)/(8x^2-6x+1) would be the way I would write what I think the formula is supposed to be. If you have access to special characters you could replace ^2 with a ² if you prefer.
      Here's a non-rigorous way to look at it: As x goes to infinity, the x^2 terms are going to dominate the x terms and the constants. This means that the numerator and denominator will more and more closely resemble 4x^2 and 8x^2 as x becomes large. Feel free to work out a few evaluations at, say, x = 1, x = 10, x = 100 and so on to see that this happens. Don't divide numerator and denominator for this. Do them separately.
      This means that the ratio of the numerator and denominator will look more and more like (4x^2)/(8x^2), which is easily seen to cancel to be 4/8, which simplifies to 1/2.

  • @Uriboica
    @Uriboica Рік тому

    Hey prime , instead of going through all those steps to find the value of X, can't u just get a value that when one is subtracted (x-1) gives 1 since value of a is 1

  • @justice5150
    @justice5150 Рік тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @KamalAzhar-t7q
    @KamalAzhar-t7q 17 днів тому

    To be fully rigorous we must take delta= min(epsilon/5, 1)

  • @stas1933
    @stas1933 Рік тому

    чел, ты крут!

  • @hqs9585
    @hqs9585 11 місяців тому

    another easy way is to simply use synthetic division (remainder theorem) and find the factors.

  • @szteng
    @szteng Рік тому

    You let 0 < x < 2, then let x = 2, why not let x = 1.5?

    • @yan4108
      @yan4108 Рік тому

      well the point is we want to pick a bigger number so that if x was in the interval from 0 to 2 that x we chose will be smaller than x in that interval, so we can say that for every x in that interval will smaller than the number we let x to be, which is 2 you can also pick 2,1 it doesnt matter actually
      if we let x=1,5
      then there will be value of x that greater than 1,5 in the interval that we chose before

  • @KagayanoEnock
    @KagayanoEnock Рік тому

    WELL SPOKEN

  • @NdumelisobrianMudau
    @NdumelisobrianMudau Рік тому

    thank you

  • @techlokka4973
    @techlokka4973 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @stevenkaban
    @stevenkaban Рік тому +1

    The only hard part was finding the trick to manipulate inequality 💀