Fun fact about Alucard and vampire lore. The real reason vampires can't be reflected in mirrors is actually due to the silver coating used in the process of making mirrors, as vampires have a sort of supernatural allergy to silver. They actually can be reflected in other, naturally reflective surfaces like water. So Alucard having a reflection in Fountain of Dreams is actually totally accurate.
i legitimately honestly 100% was going to mention this exact thing when talking about the fountain of dream reflection vs the wii fit stage and how theres no silver in water etc... BUT i felt i'd be getting way off track but legit i was tempted to nerd out hard on vampire lore there hahaha
1. Alucard is only half-vampire, therefore should have a reflection. 2. Silver is in no way associated with glass crafting. 3. Vampires, in the classic sense, have no allergy to silver...so he SHOULD have a reflection. 4. Fountain of Dreams is a location IN DREAMS so normal rules wouldn't apply. 5. Vampires aren't real so who cares.
While I don’t agree with the acronym theory, I will say that they did choose the correct companies for each character based on the copyright for smash ultimate. When joker was released, Atlas was added to the copyright (despite Sega being there), and Microsoft was added for Banjo, not Rare.
@@Ninja_Koopa SEGA owns ATLUS but ATLUS self publishes their games. That is why on the copyright section for Joker it only lists ATLUS. Same for Banjo-Kazooie it lists only Microsoft and not Rare.
Having dlc characters was pretty amazing in and of itself, having rated M characters was unbelievable, having many more characters after the fighter's pass is catastrophically mind-blowing.
I know you're joking, but being serious for a moment, we're more likely to get ponies that Goku, because someone could go and make a MLP ripoff video game.
If that color theory theory pans out I don't think it is Crash only because the background color being Orange wouldn't work with Crash Bandicoot only because the background colors usually contrast or compliments the characters main color scheme. Crash Bandicoot is mainly orange so his background wouldn't be orange because his character image wouldn't stand out.
Douglas Show Nobody ever mentions this, but it’s true. The only character who doesn’t follow this rule is Hero. This also lends more credence to Doomguy if you believe this as well
"someone actually wanted" bruh, you make it sound like the whole world is full of anglophone redditors. Plenty of people were happy about Terry! I know my friends were
Owen Cromie How would you make that work? I mean I know Sakurai said that Ridley was originally too big for Smash, but Optimus Prime is a big ass alien robot. You would have to scale him down completely, and yet it’ll look weird because he isn’t huge.
11:59 THAT, is not true, gender and different character that are in the same character slot use the same character ID, in smash 4 they are considered as different "colors" in the game files, ranging from c1/c0 to c8, this includes the wiifit, Robin, cloud etc etc.. Character ID are only taken if a character has multiple "forms" in the same character slot : example bowser and giga bowser are considered as 2 different fighters as far as the game is concerned, that would be the same for every pokemons of pokemon trainer
@@batdogduke the reason why I know this to be true is when you are adding skins from modding it only shows those 8 files for each one, allowing you to edit them... they all appear in the same for Bayo, Cloud, and Wii Fit otherwise you'd have a very unorganized mess in the code. I only know of this from personal coding experience and modding experience for sm4sh
@@Ch8seBit Ch8seBit but could they have changed it for this smash? I'm not going to say you're wrong, because I have no experience in the modding field, nor data mining field, but I have a character idea that I really want to come true and a theory like this could support my idea. (Battletoads) So any video proof or website information showing off that what you and Adem would be appreciated :) I want to find out more about this because I find it to be very believable, but I'm open to being corrected, and I just want to see visual proof that that's the case.
@@batdogduke I'm sure they changed it for this smash 100% I was just saying as the perspective of Sm4sh, also sorry if I rubbed off being a dick I had no intentions of doing so
@Random Konong what I am saying is, they can basically keep adding as much as they like with the amount of space they have, and I think that this will factor in if we get a new game mode or not, my speculation, so dont quote me 😁
I have a feeling they're going to add a few ID slots, this one leak I saw a while ago seemed pretty convincing. There's a good chance we're gonna get 1. Gandalf the Grey 2. Gandalf the White 3. Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight 4. Benito Mussolini 5. The Blue Meanie 6. Cowboy Curtis 7. Jambi the Genie 8. Robocop 9. The Terminator 10. Captain Kirk 11. Darth Vader 12. Lo-pan 13. Superman 14-20. Every Single Power Ranger 21. Bill S. Preston 22. Theodore Logan 23. Spock 24. The Rock 25. Doc Ock 26. Hulk Hogan
Hey, that's my post! :D Glad you could finally clear all this up with people, it seriously annoyed me when people said that the slots weren't likely to be filled for one reason or another and were clearly misinformed. I did post this right before Banjo released, but he does only takes up one character ID, if anyone thought otherwise.
The 29 slots datamine also supports the possibility of one of the characters known for having more than 2 alts. like Athena Asamiya or an Idolmaster character being one of the DLC fighters.
The way sakurai was talking about how he wants to make this smash the best he can, adding in as many game worlds as he can to please the fans makes me doubt any dlc being Echos.
Another (possible) piece of evidence for Doom Slayer is that the composer of Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal (Mick Gordon) had posted a job opening a while back. The job wanted metal vocalists for "a video game". We already new about Doom Eternal when this was posted, AND Grant Kirkhope did the remixes for Banjo and Kazooie's music for Smash. It's not too far fetched to say that this could be remixes for Smash as well.
S=Square Enix- Hero M=Microsoft- Banjo Kazooie A=Atlus- Joker S=SNK- Terry H=HAL- BANDANNA WADDLE DEE. That’s right gamers, it’s happening. And it fits the colour theory as well. Orange=Waddle Dee! #BandannaWaddleDee Also why tf was like half the comment wiped out.
In school as you posted this, hope y'all have a good day ❤ Edit: thank you for so many likes! If today wasn't your day, tomorrow's always something to look forward to!
I'm going to start using smash theories as my example of nonsequitur fallacies in my speech class. The "Color Theory" and "SMASH" theories are just classic examples of coming to conclusions by connecting dots that don't really logically connect. For example: Grass is green, money is also green, money is made of paper, paper is made in factories, factories have people in them therefore people are grass. xD
You know I never would have ever noticed that each of the DLC Fighters in the Fighter Pass came from companies that spelled out SMASH if no one mentioned that. Square Enix, Microsoft, Atlus and SNK so far. That is so clever, I didn't even put it together myself. You have ACTUALLY just blown my mind into pieces. I am NEVER going to see the DLC Fighters the same way again.
@@INFERNO95 Your attempt at exploiting my anger by insulting the Assist Alliance can be considered "audacious" But too bad for you because I cannot be angered.
I'm looking at the Character ID slots now after Sora's reveal. 17 spots have been filled since then: Byleth (2), Min Min (1), Steve (4), Sephiroth (2), Pyra/Mythra (2), Kazuya (2), and Sora (4). That leaves us with 3 spots. Hope this means we get at least 1 more secret character, since that theory about FP2 possibly having some kind of bonus at the end is still very strange.
@@chaosnaut2109 I left that one out on purpose but now that I think about it, you're right. If I counted the Minecraft characters which are basically just skins, I should count Timeless River too. 2 spots is the real number then. It probably means nothing anyway tbh.
Lloyds VA doing work for smash isn't out of the relm of possibly for him to be the 5th fighter. Before kingdom hearts 3 was out the English VAs said they finished thier lines when the game had 3 months to go before release. A game like smash that had no dialogue other than taunt lines or saying attack names I could see take like a couple weeks max
I’m probably not the only one to say this but thank you for the Assist Alliance shout out! There’s another thing to mention that most ATs are half playable characters already and they would be easier to upgrade. Isaac for example can be based by his model in the game as well as use assets from his Mii Costume. He can dodge, be grabbed/thrown, jump, teleport (for like an Up Special), psynergy that can be used as special moves, and could potentially use Shulk or Robin as a basis as well. It can be done, and it would be easier than make a character from scratch.
Now we're currently sitting at 12 character ID's and for sure 12 fighters, 4 of which have yet to be released. That leaves 17 ID's spread over 8 characters, very possible if one of them had 8 ID's like Bowser Jr.
Amidst all of the theories and speculation, I'm so ready for the spirit decomfirmation rule to be... decomfirmed. My most wanted characters are Rayman, Shantae, and Geno.
I REALLY don't want Waluigi to be DLC, especially after Sakurai was harassed on Twitter with highly inappropriate shit because he didn't make him playable.
1:47 It’s because the game and the company copyrights still mention Atlus for Joker and Microsoft for Banjo. That’s why the person whoever made it made them have those companies and not Rare or Sega
Damn, I freaked out when they confirmed the addition of more DLC. 10 characters would be insane! The amount of representation would be absolutely unrivaled. I guess Sakurai is really trying to push that record of his
Alucard's reflection would show up in water as opposed to a mirror because mirrors used to be made of Silver and Glass; and seeing as how Silver is generally pretty harmful to Vampires...
Let see... H for : HAL Laboratory >> Mother (aka Earthbound) h.a.n.d. >> Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days Harmonix >> Guitar Hero Hasbro >> Optimus Prime or Monopoly Guy High Moon Studios >> Deadpool Hudson Soft >> Bomberman or Mario Party
Thank you so much for this video, I had been wondering how things looked for those datamines now that we already have gotten DLC characters. I also wanted to thank you for mentioning Assists, I really agree with what you said and since Isaac is my most wanted I hope Sakurai saw everything that happened around him through base roster speculation's cycle and makes the miracle
I saw a leak from Nintendo, back when Joker was released, it showed the final color is purple and there was another leak that showed all the DLC characters of who there were going to be and it talked about the 5th character in the fighters pass... The leak said Geno was next after Terry
Good video, was surpised to be in it as well! Completly agree about all the theories tho, but they are still fun. Who doesnt love a good or silly theory, now and again? c:
I would love some Tales representation in smash, as I’ve been loving Tales of Vesperia recently. It’s also Bandai Namco, so the copyright won’t be an issue.
If it’s still up to Nintendo and not Sakurai I assume we’re gonna get 2 more passes. I actually think they might just be passes. After the huge heavy hitting characters only hardcore smash fans will buy each character, but if they buy a pass it won’t matter what individual characters are
People still make theories around acronyms? Damn. It didn't work with FEAR TEDDY, it didn't work with the THANOS theory, I don't think it's going to work this time.
@@LowReedExpert1really? I recall a lot of people after his reveal saying hes the closest thing to JoJo content in smash i mean i see where their coming from a persona is basicly a stand
Something I think would be cool would be if they did something similar to the character ballot, imagine they announce that we're getting two more fighters passes and we get to vote who gets in. With the first each spot has 2-3 characters to vote on and then the third pass lets you vote on all the characters that didn't make it in before..... I think that would be awesome....
That was a very interesting post about the extra slots, actually makes me a little more excited for the additional characters if a good chunk of them end up coming with alternate costumes or more characters as their costumes. Banjo is who I wanted most so I’m already happy, anyone else is just extras so I’d be down for anyone. Although of course there’s still characters I like that I would be hyped over if they got in like Ryu Hayabusa or Doomguy.
@Tarron Zeng Unless you like the sight of that monster slaughtering cute characters like Kirby, Pikachu, Ice Climbers & Isabelle (God Forbid), I see NO valid reason for Sakurai-san to waste a DLC spot on such a fiend. Any argument you present is invalid. ⚖️
H for Hudson!? Could this mean Bonk FINALLY gonna come out of his cave from his eternal slumber? Maybe Nintendo/Sakurai acknowledges his existence because Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine was somewhat part of the Console Wars in the 90’s.
Either that or Master Higgins from Adventure Island. The only problem is which name to include in the English version. In North America he was called Master Higgins. In the UK he was Master Wigins. So they would have to choose one of the names or make a special version just for PAL that uses the UK version of his name.
Douglas Show Yo how did I forget Master Higgins lol wait now that you mention him, if he’s in, do you think he’s gonna have that hunger meter if you don’y consume enough food you die? 😳😨
@@NefariousLoto For the longest time I didn't even know the name of the game or the main character. I played those games on the NES before I could actually read. So I didn't know what it was called I just looked at the box art and played from there. I still have a lot of NES games that I don't know anymore I used to have them but I can't find because I have to describe what I remember from them. I found out about Adventure Island and the main character when I googled "game with caveman in a white hat on skateboard"
Douglas Show I’ve heard about Adventure Island through Screwattack and PBG, Mastet Higgins would be unique and fun, especially when he has his dinosaur pals to help him, the reason I would say Bonk, because he was somewhat of a mascot for Turbo Grafx 16, and his move set could be inspired from different games the console was known for but yes I’ll definitely go for the Master lol 😂
Alex Molina93 for some reason I think Lloyd is going to be the 5th fighter just because Bandai Namco has yet to have representation in the game and they’ve been working on the game with Sakurai. If Sora gets in I think he’ll be just a stand alone fighter that’s not in the pass, and by god I hope he makes it!
Alex Molina93 the thing with Sora is I think it’ll be a nightmare to get him in at all, so with him being a stand alone fighter, his chances are better because he doesn’t necessarily have to be included with a stage and music (although that would be really nice). In addition these stand alone fighters might come with an echo depending on the character, and call me crazy, but what if a Roxas echo came with Sora?
DWN-018 Magnet Man uhhh actually nobody really cared about Terry. Most people were asking who he was rather than being hyped over him. Lloyd however is a decently requested character that people recognize, even if you haven’t played his games
ScarfFox and Friends Square bought enix which means it own by square now. Just like bomber man was hudson soft but now is konami cause they bought hudson years ago.
@@INFERNO95 sqaure didn't buy enix, they merged. It's the same situation as Namco and Bandai, my point is thag international the Dragon Quest franchise is still referred to as an Enix game, so it would be represented with a E, not a S. This puts more fault in the S.M.A.S.H theory, which was already a huge stretch.
The smash acronym and color theory points me to assume one character: Bandana Dee. the H in Smash could be Hal labratory, and the orange backround fits for bandana dee. sorry i just really want bandana dee in smash
Some small things that i would like to add about DOOM is that Nintendo definitely seems to love having the series around when a thumbnail on the News Channel had DOOM as the front-runner for FPS games
I do really think we will get a Redemption pack or something similar to that. Where people get to vote for specific assist trophies and if spirits decomfirm characters spirts as well. Example a list of characters such as Waluigi, Shadow, Waddle Dee spirt, Geno spirt. Or maybe just one character
Still hoping for Klonoa as a Namco rep, my most wanted character is between him and Sora It will probably never happen but for a Hudson Soft rep I'd love Yugo the Wolf from Bloody Roar I would love Shadow, Dillon, Ray, Isaac, or Krystal being upgraded from assist As for Spirits I'd love Tiny Kong, Chibi Robo, or Geno being upgraded
The whole thing with scott means nothing. He's a union actor, which means that if lloyd was in smash he cannot voice him, it's the reason why cloud only speaks in japanese
Also, shantae's voice actress did something similar where she said she was going to be "in one of the biggest games ever" just to end up being a fortnite character
You know, I was doubtful before, but I think Ultimate could really end with 100 characters, a nice rounded number. Especially with Sakurai’s dedication. It’s not really an expectation in my mind, because that would be crazy, but it could happen imo. And with Sakurai wanting to make this record continue to go up, I think there’s a real possibility that assist trophies may get ‘promoted’ since dlc is decided after the base roster.
That's what ive been saying! They make it up to 100 characters and I hope they do! That would be enough to literally please everyone with new fighters and even echos!
I mean, the roster is technically currently at 94 characters if you include DLC, Pokémon Trainers' Pokémon as their own separate characters, and all the echo fighters, including the Koopalings, Alph, Male Wii Fit Trainer, Female Pokémon Trainer, and Female Corrin, so it's not too farfetched that the roster could get to 100 characters.
Fun fact about Alucard and vampire lore. The real reason vampires can't be reflected in mirrors is actually due to the silver coating used in the process of making mirrors, as vampires have a sort of supernatural allergy to silver. They actually can be reflected in other, naturally reflective surfaces like water. So Alucard having a reflection in Fountain of Dreams is actually totally accurate.
i legitimately honestly 100% was going to mention this exact thing when talking about the fountain of dream reflection vs the wii fit stage and how theres no silver in water etc... BUT i felt i'd be getting way off track but legit i was tempted to nerd out hard on vampire lore there hahaha
Isnt he half vampire?
1. Alucard is only half-vampire, therefore should have a reflection.
2. Silver is in no way associated with glass crafting.
3. Vampires, in the classic sense, have no allergy to silver...so he SHOULD have a reflection.
4. Fountain of Dreams is a location IN DREAMS so normal rules wouldn't apply.
5. Vampires aren't real so who cares.
@@gr33nsl33v3s In Soth you could see his reflection
@@gr33nsl33v3s Mirrors aren't made the same way they use to be. Also, classic vampires are weak to silver. I have no idea why you think otherwise.
H is for Hasbro. Monopoly man for smash.
Anthony Flores-Wright that’s canon 😂😂😂😂
ur pfp is god tier
Hello fellow intellectual
Perfect
Ms. Monopoly is an echo fighter
Papa hear me out,
S - Square Enix
M - Microsoft
A - Atlus
S - SNK
H - House House
THAT'S RIGHT, GOOSE FROM UNTITLED GOOSE GAME FOR SMASH
This is the most blessed comment in this comment section.
That was actually one of my most wanted characters no joke
Its Hudson soft master higgens
HELL YEAH NEW MAIN
Foop2006pizza 202 Sega owns Atlus so it’s possible to make that mistake
Rayman's not in Smash cuz they haven't figured out how to make his Amiibo
My mind is exploding. I’m legit trying to figure out how it would work...
I can only imagine that there be glass like for his hands
Oh man, who’s ready for FOUR Link pee sticks?
Lmao that's too legit
*It's simple, just give him limbs.*
They tried this whole color theory thing in dragonball fighterz and it didn't work there either
First reply but 167th like
@@AphtinCompletionist the comment
167 is closer to 117 than to 2110
For real colours ain't gonna tell you shit
Goku Will never be in smash because hes an anime character, not gaming
@@Davidpoland2005 no one here mentioned Goku coming to Smash
"H" is for *HAL Laboratory* , meaning we're getting that dog cradling eggs.
This comment cannot go under the radar. You speak the truth!
I thought it was a moustache with goofy teeth poking through
I’ll be laughing if it’s “H” for half brick studios, and getting Barry steakfries form jetpack joyride
Brilliant!
I always thought the HAL logo had a deer and eggs.
While I don’t agree with the acronym theory, I will say that they did choose the correct companies for each character based on the copyright for smash ultimate. When joker was released, Atlas was added to the copyright (despite Sega being there), and Microsoft was added for Banjo, not Rare.
On the copyright section on Smash, it say Atlus and Microsoft, not Sega and Rare
Who had atlus?
@@Ninja_Koopa SEGA owns ATLUS but ATLUS self publishes their games.
That is why on the copyright section for Joker it only lists ATLUS.
Same for Banjo-Kazooie it lists only Microsoft and not Rare.
@@HALberdier17 Ah yes. I just wasn't sure about Atlus.
Still one of the worst theories out there.
It's still a stretch.
Having dlc characters was pretty amazing in and of itself, having rated M characters was unbelievable, having many more characters after the fighter's pass is catastrophically mind-blowing.
H would be from HéńtâîHávèń
Everything else is irrelevant
Okay Justin Y
Sorry, they don't make games.
Kuro Clover wooooosh
That's what modders are for.
S- Steve
M- Minecraft Steve
A- Armour Steve
S- Slime Shirt Steve
H- Doom Marine
*I’VE CRACKED THE CODE!*
H- Herobrine
Doomguy = best dlc ever
Hdoom. I see you’re a man of culture
Doom Marine h is hallelujah cuz god is the 5th dlc character
@@mac8782 Only if you want a mass murderer chopping up Isabelle & Pikachu. 💀
*stares at Shantae’s Gameboy Color and vinyl record orange background*
Nahhhhhh.
*stares at Untitled Goose*
Hmm
This is way better than watching the Area 51 raid.
Where do you watch that
outside area 51
@@turtleanton6539 I dont think that you can livestream there
@@PapaGenos
Well,
You are not wrong.
I still cant believe that some People actually did it.....
H is for Heavy Iron Studios.
I can't believe SpongeBob is getting in before Goku. XD
Isnt THQ doing the remake?
Ren Amamiya
Purple Lamp Studio is the developer, but THQ is the publisher for both the original and the remake.
I know you're joking, but being serious for a moment, we're more likely to get ponies that Goku, because someone could go and make a MLP ripoff video game.
And if spyro gets in the game we'd have two tom kennys
Also goku didn't get in because android 17 took his place after finally killing him with the help of android 16
At this point, I honestly think Sakurai wanted more DLC characters just to watch Papa Genoa vids and the theories that come with it 😂
D J haha
D J I agree
What if sakurai could add a new 3rd party character by popular demand
Sure do
"This funny man in the blue hat keeps making these entertaining videos. He seems to really like Geno, but I'll hold off for now.
it was part of the decision process im sure
Plot twist: it’s not Doomguy it’s actually *Mecha-Hitler*
Using 100% of your brain
Red Face Gaming nahh. Who do you think I am? Scarlett Johansson in that one movie?
Doot Revenant for smash
So that’s what H stands for
Persona already has a character though!
If that color theory theory pans out I don't think it is Crash only because the background color being Orange wouldn't work with Crash Bandicoot only because the background colors usually contrast or compliments the characters main color scheme.
Crash Bandicoot is mainly orange so his background wouldn't be orange because his character image wouldn't stand out.
Douglas Show Nobody ever mentions this, but it’s true. The only character who doesn’t follow this rule is Hero. This also lends more credence to Doomguy if you believe this as well
Yeah, after watching this I believe Crash and Spyro will come together in a sort of Activision exclusive 2 character pack.
My thoughts exactly. Unless it’s some pastel kind of orange, but I doubt that would look good. :)
@@ffiiggyy great minds think alike
ffiiggyy T. Piggy Uh.. yeah, no.
Man I got Terry freaking bogard I'm set, I have never been so satisfied with a video game in my life.
And the potential of a alt for Terry is higher!
That's great to hear that someone actually wanted Terry Bogard. You lucked out.
ARE YOU OKAY?
"someone actually wanted" bruh, you make it sound like the whole world is full of anglophone redditors. Plenty of people were happy about Terry! I know my friends were
Mamodokod nices hope he good for you
H is obviously Hasbro. Optimus Prime confirmed!!
adventure islander
Lol I was the 69th like 😉
Also hot wheels car? They did release Mariokart hot wheels cars recently, maybe we get a mariokart as a character?
Owen Cromie How would you make that work? I mean I know Sakurai said that Ridley was originally too big for Smash, but Optimus Prime is a big ass alien robot. You would have to scale him down completely, and yet it’ll look weird because he isn’t huge.
I think H is for Hudson Soft.
Twilight Sparkle.
11:59 THAT, is not true, gender and different character that are in the same character slot use the same character ID, in smash 4 they are considered as different "colors" in the game files, ranging from c1/c0 to c8, this includes the wiifit, Robin, cloud etc etc..
Character ID are only taken if a character has multiple "forms" in the same character slot : example bowser and giga bowser are considered as 2 different fighters as far as the game is concerned, that would be the same for every pokemons of pokemon trainer
So uh, you seem to be pretty confident with this info, mind if you link an article or information backing up what you've said?
@@batdogduke the reason why I know this to be true is when you are adding skins from modding it only shows those 8 files for each one, allowing you to edit them... they all appear in the same for Bayo, Cloud, and Wii Fit otherwise you'd have a very unorganized mess in the code. I only know of this from personal coding experience and modding experience for sm4sh
@@Ch8seBit Ch8seBit but could they have changed it for this smash? I'm not going to say you're wrong, because I have no experience in the modding field, nor data mining field, but I have a character idea that I really want to come true and a theory like this could support my idea. (Battletoads) So any video proof or website information showing off that what you and Adem would be appreciated :)
I want to find out more about this because I find it to be very believable, but I'm open to being corrected, and I just want to see visual proof that that's the case.
@@batdogduke I'm sure they changed it for this smash 100% I was just saying as the perspective of Sm4sh, also sorry if I rubbed off being a dick I had no intentions of doing so
@Random Konong what I am saying is, they can basically keep adding as much as they like with the amount of space they have, and I think that this will factor in if we get a new game mode or not, my speculation, so dont quote me 😁
Also you can’t use the moon assist on that Zelda stage
This reminds me of when people were reaching with the THANOS infinite jem location
Or the infamous pokemon GRAMPS
Even ten, THANOS made way more sense
H stands for Hell. Doomguy is in, fellas
Hell yeah!
Doom Slayer for the next dlc playable character for smash ultimate
I see you are a man of culture as well...
Legodev can you believe we live in a world where that is a possibility? I sure as *hell* cant
Doomguy for smash 😓
But what if it’s Scorpion?
Mii Gunner: No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
Very original.
Smmmokin!
It's true. I've seen a lot more mii fighters online after Sans and Goemon were released (mostly because of Sans).
but that mii costumes tho not a real figher
Yeah, thats true, once sans was released the amount of mii gunner mains rised
I have a feeling they're going to add a few ID slots, this one leak I saw a while ago seemed pretty convincing. There's a good chance we're gonna get
1. Gandalf the Grey
2. Gandalf the White
3. Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight
4. Benito Mussolini
5. The Blue Meanie
6. Cowboy Curtis
7. Jambi the Genie
8. Robocop
9. The Terminator
10. Captain Kirk
11. Darth Vader
12. Lo-pan
13. Superman
14-20. Every Single Power Ranger
21. Bill S. Preston
22. Theodore Logan
23. Spock
24. The Rock
25. Doc Ock
26. Hulk Hogan
Who made that list, Deadpool? 😵
Surande Dadstorm all came out of nowhere Lightning fast, and beat chuck Norris and his cowboy ass.
This is the ultimate orgy! (homosexuality)
And chuck Norris to kill Batman to top it off!
The smash community seriously made an acronym theory, I'm dead 😂
Well, not the whole smash community. More like 1 person or maybe a few
Hey, that's my post! :D Glad you could finally clear all this up with people, it seriously annoyed me when people said that the slots weren't likely to be filled for one reason or another and were clearly misinformed.
I did post this right before Banjo released, but he does only takes up one character ID, if anyone thought otherwise.
The 29 slots datamine also supports the possibility of one of the characters known for having more than 2 alts. like Athena Asamiya or an Idolmaster character being one of the DLC fighters.
I could see the Scott thing being Teen Titans Season 6. It would be a pretty major thing that no one would want to be revealed.
yeah thats def a possibility and rather hype if i do say so myself
Could be COD Zombies recent DLC also. Scott voices Marlton from Zombies.
Love ya papagenos! Always look forward to when you post your videos :) I needed my leak speculation fix 😳
thanks!
Me to ! Your one of the greatest youtuber s ever!
The way sakurai was talking about how he wants to make this smash the best he can, adding in as many game worlds as he can to please the fans makes me doubt any dlc being Echos.
I agree. Especially since he wants to combine as many worlds as he can.
I could see a couple free echoes. Probably Dixie Kong and a Pokemon, maybe.
Agreed. I feel he is wanting to go all out with unique DLC.
Maybe he could add DLC echoes but as an addition on some DLC fighters, just like music or stages but with echos
Mamodokod He stated a year ago no dlc will be echo figthers. For reasons fans pretend he never said that.
Another (possible) piece of evidence for Doom Slayer is that the composer of Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal (Mick Gordon) had posted a job opening a while back. The job wanted metal vocalists for "a video game". We already new about Doom Eternal when this was posted, AND Grant Kirkhope did the remixes for Banjo and Kazooie's music for Smash. It's not too far fetched to say that this could be remixes for Smash as well.
perfect way to start my morning
Giggity
The possibility that all fighters from the 1st fighters pass may have multiple IDs, yet we couldn't get Dragon Kazooie with Banjo
*sad Guh-huh noises*
The SMASH thing is considered an actual theory? I just thought it was a kind of funny meme.
S=Square Enix- Hero
M=Microsoft- Banjo Kazooie
A=Atlus- Joker
S=SNK- Terry
H=HAL- BANDANNA WADDLE DEE.
That’s right gamers, it’s happening. And it fits the colour theory as well. Orange=Waddle Dee!
#BandannaWaddleDee
Also why tf was like half the comment wiped out.
Not a bad idea
Bandana Waddle Dee is DEAD. 💀
In school as you posted this, hope y'all have a good day ❤
Edit: thank you for so many likes! If today wasn't your day, tomorrow's always something to look forward to!
You too man. Take care
Y Tú amigo!!!
You too man! Good luck with your studies
I'm going to start using smash theories as my example of nonsequitur fallacies in my speech class. The "Color Theory" and "SMASH" theories are just classic examples of coming to conclusions by connecting dots that don't really logically connect. For example: Grass is green, money is also green, money is made of paper, paper is made in factories, factories have people in them therefore people are grass. xD
H is for Hudson Soft. Can't wait to play as a bee.
@Kadeeen I don't want a mario i wanna play BEE
damn I never knew how much I wanted LODE RUNNER
Buck Bumble BAYBEEE
Bomberman
Vinícius Vechio Berger so that means Mario Party Mario or Paper Mario from TTYD
You know I never would have ever noticed that each of the DLC Fighters in the Fighter Pass came from companies that spelled out SMASH if no one mentioned that. Square Enix, Microsoft, Atlus and SNK so far. That is so clever, I didn't even put it together myself. You have ACTUALLY just blown my mind into pieces. I am NEVER going to see the DLC Fighters the same way again.
Thank you so much for mentioning the Assist Alliance PapaGenos ! 🙏
no prob!
Also Hero got his voice actors after the E3 reveal.
Basile Monribot I wish he didn't cause these people are just sad.
@@INFERNO95
Your attempt at exploiting my anger by insulting the Assist Alliance can be considered "audacious"
But too bad for you because I cannot be angered.
I'm looking at the Character ID slots now after Sora's reveal. 17 spots have been filled since then: Byleth (2), Min Min (1), Steve (4), Sephiroth (2), Pyra/Mythra (2), Kazuya (2), and Sora (4). That leaves us with 3 spots. Hope this means we get at least 1 more secret character, since that theory about FP2 possibly having some kind of bonus at the end is still very strange.
Sora has 5 slots (KH1, KH2, KH3D, KH3, Timeless River)
@@chaosnaut2109 I left that one out on purpose but now that I think about it, you're right. If I counted the Minecraft characters which are basically just skins, I should count Timeless River too. 2 spots is the real number then. It probably means nothing anyway tbh.
Lloyds VA doing work for smash isn't out of the relm of possibly for him to be the 5th fighter. Before kingdom hearts 3 was out the English VAs said they finished thier lines when the game had 3 months to go before release. A game like smash that had no dialogue other than taunt lines or saying attack names I could see take like a couple weeks max
He said he was "working on it", but also we don't know how long that's been. Maybe Scott is just finishing up the voice acting for whatever it is.
I’m probably not the only one to say this but thank you for the Assist Alliance shout out!
There’s another thing to mention that most ATs are half playable characters already and they would be easier to upgrade. Isaac for example can be based by his model in the game as well as use assets from his Mii Costume. He can dodge, be grabbed/thrown, jump, teleport (for like an Up Special), psynergy that can be used as special moves, and could potentially use Shulk or Robin as a basis as well. It can be done, and it would be easier than make a character from scratch.
Don't wanna ruin any hopes but Scott is probably just recording the the new zombies map
Show me your smash id
Mii gunner: Wait a minute let me put the mask
Everyone: SANS!!!
Thanks for mentioning the Scott Menville information! 😀
Now we're currently sitting at 12 character ID's and for sure 12 fighters, 4 of which have yet to be released. That leaves 17 ID's spread over 8 characters, very possible if one of them had 8 ID's like Bowser Jr.
Amidst all of the theories and speculation, I'm so ready for the spirit decomfirmation rule to be... decomfirmed. My most wanted characters are Rayman, Shantae, and Geno.
Nothing is set in stone.
We can only hope.
I REALLY don't want Waluigi to be DLC, especially after Sakurai was harassed on Twitter with highly inappropriate shit because he didn't make him playable.
Honestly, you should be calling a lot of these "Theories" a bunch of Hypotheses instead. Theories have evidence or reason to believe in them.
1:47 It’s because the game and the company copyrights still mention Atlus for Joker and Microsoft for Banjo. That’s why the person whoever made it made them have those companies and not Rare or Sega
The H was Houses, referring to Fire Emblem Three Houses
Damn, I freaked out when they confirmed the addition of more DLC. 10 characters would be insane! The amount of representation would be absolutely unrivaled. I guess Sakurai is really trying to push that record of his
Doomguy for smash? Hell yes!
(Pun intended)
I hope so
Hope he’s dlc5
Star Wolf Doom is about fighting demons from hell, he said ‘hell yes’
@ What's the matter? Scared?
@@ihatestairs9034 the fact someone even has to explain the pun really disappoints me to an extent.
Its an honor for you to mention our group. Thank you for helping the cause.
Looking at the thumbnail makes me want to have 100 characters in total.
Alucard's reflection would show up in water as opposed to a mirror because mirrors used to be made of Silver and Glass; and seeing as how Silver is generally pretty harmful to Vampires...
Let see...
H for :
HAL Laboratory >> Mother (aka Earthbound)
h.a.n.d. >> Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Harmonix >> Guitar Hero
Hasbro >> Optimus Prime or Monopoly Guy
High Moon Studios >> Deadpool
Hudson Soft >> Bomberman or Mario Party
Imagine getting Roxas over Sora! I’d probably prefer him tbh
Too bad Bomberman has a Spirit and an Assist :c
Deadpool Smashes The Fourth Wall!
DLC Coming Never
If it’s high moon then it should be that guy from dark watch fuck marvel
Bomberman has the best chance. 💣
Square Enix
Microsoft
Atlus
SNK
*HASBRO ENTERTAINMENT*
Joy Chowdhury Pegasus from beyblades confirmed
Optimus Prime rolls out!
H is for Hentai.... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
Bring it...😛
Boku No Pico rep
@@dekudude8888 Better than Doom Slayer! 🤣
So your saying Saber from fate/stay night is in?
The game just went from E rated to Adult only
Thank you so much for this video, I had been wondering how things looked for those datamines now that we already have gotten DLC characters. I also wanted to thank you for mentioning Assists, I really agree with what you said and since Isaac is my most wanted I hope Sakurai saw everything that happened around him through base roster speculation's cycle and makes the miracle
Wooo! Pajama Sam has finally hit the big leagues! Humongous Entertainment in Smash! Yes!
It's going to be Putt Putt, not Pajama Sam. Don't be a hecking dummy. smh my head
@@Giant_SewerRat This comment made me look up the history of Humongous Entertainment, and, truth be told, you happen to be right here. My condolences.
I saw a leak from Nintendo, back when Joker was released, it showed the final color is purple and there was another leak that showed all the DLC characters of who there were going to be and it talked about the 5th character in the fighters pass...
The leak said Geno was next after Terry
Good video, was surpised to be in it as well! Completly agree about all the theories tho, but they are still fun. Who doesnt love a good or silly theory, now and again? c:
My sources say that Masahiro Sakurai will make an surprise appearance in this years Blizzcon.
I would love some Tales representation in smash, as I’ve been loving Tales of Vesperia recently. It’s also Bandai Namco, so the copyright won’t be an issue.
Lemme get a BIG FAT LLOYD FOR SMASH!
I thought we would only get 2 dlc characters in Ultimate.
This game has to be the best game known to mankind. Thank you Sakurai
H is for *HELL NO* that’s right boys Giorno Giovanna is coming
I think Scott Menville was talking about the voice acting for the new Call Of Duty DLC
I think betting on 10 characters is reasonable at this point. ^^ Can't wait for November to get more info!
If it’s still up to Nintendo and not Sakurai I assume we’re gonna get 2 more passes. I actually think they might just be passes. After the huge heavy hitting characters only hardcore smash fans will buy each character, but if they buy a pass it won’t matter what individual characters are
People still make theories around acronyms? Damn.
It didn't work with FEAR TEDDY, it didn't work with the THANOS theory, I don't think it's going to work this time.
Another thing about the color theory. Terrys main color is red. Yet his backgrounds blue. The color of backgrounds mean sweet fuckall
The H clearly refers to the manga author Hiroko Araki which means JoJo's bizarre adventure for smash
I'd still argue Terry is basically a JoJo in smash
@@LowReedExpert1same with joker but they aint the real deal now are they
@@LowkeyJouta I'm surprised, I've never heard anyone compare Joker to a Jojo
@@LowReedExpert1really? I recall a lot of people after his reveal saying hes the closest thing to JoJo content in smash i mean i see where their coming from a persona is basicly a stand
@@LowkeyJouta oh shoot; now I remember that (how did I forget stands....)
We'll just call Terry Johnathan
Something I think would be cool would be if they did something similar to the character ballot, imagine they announce that we're getting two more fighters passes and we get to vote who gets in. With the first each spot has 2-3 characters to vote on and then the third pass lets you vote on all the characters that didn't make it in before..... I think that would be awesome....
I’m gonna keep saying we need Michael Jackson for Smash. He was in Moonwalker home and arcade games and he was in Ready2Rumble boxing.
YES
Pray for Ness & Lucas...😧
That was a very interesting post about the extra slots, actually makes me a little more excited for the additional characters if a good chunk of them end up coming with alternate costumes or more characters as their costumes.
Banjo is who I wanted most so I’m already happy, anyone else is just extras so I’d be down for anyone. Although of course there’s still characters I like that I would be hyped over if they got in like Ryu Hayabusa or Doomguy.
what a good way to start the day!
S - square enix
M - Microsoft
A - atlus
S - snk
H - himself
Sakurai confirmed for smash
I hope doomguy gets in. He definitely deserves to be in smash
NO. 😠👎
@Tarron Zeng Unless you like the sight of that monster slaughtering cute characters like Kirby, Pikachu, Ice Climbers & Isabelle (God Forbid), I see NO valid reason for Sakurai-san to waste a DLC spot on such a fiend.
Any argument you present is invalid. ⚖️
@Tarron Zeng At least Ridley kills out of instinct, not for a cheap combat high.
@Tarron Zeng Your argument is invalid. The matter is closed. 🚪
Tarron Zeng you can already mock him over Terry Bogard “An SNK character is a waste of a DLC slot”
H for Hudson!? Could this mean Bonk FINALLY gonna come out of his cave from his eternal slumber? Maybe Nintendo/Sakurai acknowledges his existence because Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine was somewhat part of the Console Wars in the 90’s.
Either that or Master Higgins from Adventure Island.
The only problem is which name to include in the English version.
In North America he was called Master Higgins.
In the UK he was Master Wigins.
So they would have to choose one of the names or make a special version just for PAL that uses the UK version of his name.
Douglas Show Yo how did I forget Master Higgins lol wait now that you mention him, if he’s in, do you think he’s gonna have that hunger meter if you don’y consume enough food you die? 😳😨
@@NefariousLoto For the longest time I didn't even know the name of the game or the main character.
I played those games on the NES before I could actually read. So I didn't know what it was called I just looked at the box art and played from there.
I still have a lot of NES games that I don't know anymore I used to have them but I can't find because I have to describe what I remember from them.
I found out about Adventure Island and the main character when I googled "game with caveman in a white hat on skateboard"
Douglas Show I’ve heard about Adventure Island through Screwattack and PBG, Mastet Higgins would be unique and fun, especially when he has his dinosaur pals to help him, the reason I would say Bonk, because he was somewhat of a mascot for Turbo Grafx 16, and his move set could be inspired from different games the console was known for but yes I’ll definitely go for the Master lol 😂
Lloyd Irving, Doom Guy and Crash Bandicoot would be cool to have in Smash. Hope Sora makes it in.
Alex Molina93 for some reason I think Lloyd is going to be the 5th fighter just because Bandai Namco has yet to have representation in the game and they’ve been working on the game with Sakurai. If Sora gets in I think he’ll be just a stand alone fighter that’s not in the pass, and by god I hope he makes it!
@@brianv9242 Yeah that could happen. It's a good thing these characters have chances if they don't take the final spot of the current fighters pass.
Alex Molina93 the thing with Sora is I think it’ll be a nightmare to get him in at all, so with him being a stand alone fighter, his chances are better because he doesn’t necessarily have to be included with a stage and music (although that would be really nice). In addition these stand alone fighters might come with an echo depending on the character, and call me crazy, but what if a Roxas echo came with Sora?
@@brianv9242 why would they add Terry, a HYPE character, and just Lloyd. He should be the 1st of round 2
DWN-018 Magnet Man uhhh actually nobody really cared about Terry. Most people were asking who he was rather than being hyped over him. Lloyd however is a decently requested character that people recognize, even if you haven’t played his games
Come on crash bandicoot!!!!
Ya!
I want Ragna the Bloodedge from BlazBlue in Smash.
Teacher: what's your favorite show?
Me: PapaGenos!
Teacher: Very nice!!!!!
Plus, Dragon Quest is an Enix franchise, not a Sqaure franchise
ScarfFox and Friends Square bought enix which means it own by square now. Just like bomber man was hudson soft but now is konami cause they bought hudson years ago.
@@INFERNO95 sqaure didn't buy enix, they merged. It's the same situation as Namco and Bandai, my point is thag international the Dragon Quest franchise is still referred to as an Enix game, so it would be represented with a E, not a S. This puts more fault in the S.M.A.S.H theory, which was already a huge stretch.
Getting the new Amiibo today? I can't wait to have Ivysaur and Squirtle.
H- House House
Goose from Untitled Goose Game for smash
Donkey. 🤡
The smash acronym and color theory points me to assume one character: Bandana Dee. the H in Smash could be Hal labratory, and the orange backround fits for bandana dee. sorry i just really want bandana dee in smash
Some small things that i would like to add about DOOM is that Nintendo definitely seems to love having the series around when a thumbnail on the News Channel had DOOM as the front-runner for FPS games
I do really think we will get a Redemption pack or something similar to that. Where people get to vote for specific assist trophies and if spirits decomfirm characters spirts as well. Example a list of characters such as Waluigi, Shadow, Waddle Dee spirt, Geno spirt. Or maybe just one character
I am polar Do you believe in thr tooth fairy too?
Still hoping for Klonoa as a Namco rep, my most wanted character is between him and Sora
It will probably never happen but for a Hudson Soft rep I'd love Yugo the Wolf from Bloody Roar
I would love Shadow, Dillon, Ray, Isaac, or Krystal being upgraded from assist
As for Spirits I'd love Tiny Kong, Chibi Robo, or Geno being upgraded
Probably won’t happen but at least there’s a new Klonoa game in the works
The whole thing with scott means nothing. He's a union actor, which means that if lloyd was in smash he cannot voice him, it's the reason why cloud only speaks in japanese
Also, shantae's voice actress did something similar where she said she was going to be "in one of the biggest games ever" just to end up being a fortnite character
Yo but imagine if the counter pick to your casual buddy getting shadow assist was to pick shadow himself.
200 IQ
Idk about Scott Menville and Lloyd Irving. Scott didn't go back to voicing LLoyd for Tales of Symphonia 2
What a dumb coincidence this all is. Also girrrrlllll that length. My morning will need more time than usual.
we might actually get 100 fighters...
You know, I was doubtful before, but I think Ultimate could really end with 100 characters, a nice rounded number. Especially with Sakurai’s dedication. It’s not really an expectation in my mind, because that would be crazy, but it could happen imo. And with Sakurai wanting to make this record continue to go up, I think there’s a real possibility that assist trophies may get ‘promoted’ since dlc is decided after the base roster.
That's what ive been saying! They make it up to 100 characters and I hope they do! That would be enough to literally please everyone with new fighters and even echos!
I mean, the roster is technically currently at 94 characters if you include DLC, Pokémon Trainers' Pokémon as their own separate characters, and all the echo fighters, including the Koopalings, Alph, Male Wii Fit Trainer, Female Pokémon Trainer, and Female Corrin, so it's not too farfetched that the roster could get to 100 characters.
The video game Scott was probably voicing was black ops 4 as he voices a character in the new zombies map
Marlton for smash?
@@dex3864 exactly