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► Sources and mentioned literature:
- Mark Fisher - Capitalist realism - Is there no alternative?
- Friedrich Engels - Origin of the family, private property and the state
- Michael Parenti - Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism
- Rosa Luxembourg - Reform or revolution
- Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski - The People's Republic of Walmart
- Paul Cockshott - Towards a new socialism
- Aaron Bastani - Fully Automated Luxury Communism
- Zac Cope - Divided world, divided class
- Zac Cope - The wealth of (some) nations
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-Tomas Härdin: / @thetjopp
► Refuting anti-communism
-Second Thought: / @secondthought
-Hakim: / @yaboihakim
-Yugopnik: / @yugopnik
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► Timestamps:
0:00 Capitalist realism
6:42 Human nature
10:33 Why defend capitalism?
11:05 1 - Not real capitalism
15:02 2 - Scared and indoctrinated
16:19 3 - Personal responsibility cult
18:09 4 - Petty bourgeoisie
20:34 5 - Labour aristocracy
24:02 Popular catchphrases
25:00 Quasi-solutions
28:10 Burden of former socialism
30:57 Future prospects
The American dream is to escape exploitation by becoming the exploiter
Wow, I'm so sad that the doctor that makes 10 thousand bucks a month is being exploit, what a poor soul.
@Jack if they aren't the owner of the hospital, they are being exploited.
Doesn't matter if you're a CEO making a million a month, you're still being exploited. If the CEO is making the owners more money than they're spending on the CEO, and the CEO isn't an owner, then the CEO is an employee, therefore exploited.
The doctor may be making $10k a mo, while also being partner. In that case, they aren't necessarily being exploited.
Duh...
I take it that you've never actually read any capitalist critique and only know what you've been told? Just guessing based on your statement.
@@Zhagg1 Yet the local shopkeeper that employed people are a evil being that exploit the workers, you guys are lunatics to really think that owning something means that you won't need any effort to mantain it
@@Zhagg1 Without the owners and their ideas you are just a skank on the corner of a street. You get skills only because there are people willing to pay you for them, not the other way around
@@Jack_804 ratio
It’s like joining a game of monopoly with no money after all the property is bought and hotels on everything.
The object is that the winner owns all the money and property while the losing players are homeless.
you just summed up Imperialism, the superior stage of capitalism by Lenin, good work haha
Are you aware that 90% of millionaires in the U.S are self made?
@@JohnT.4321 do you think there were no homeless in ussr?
Tell that to all the tech moguls who emerged during 90s. Same with majority of industries.
Whenever people defend capitalism, it always makes me think of a quote from Terry Pratchett's Lord Vetinari: "If it continues long enough, even a reign of terror may become a fondly remembered period. People believe they want justice and wise government but, in fact, what they really want is an assurance that tomorrow will be very much like today."
“You see, boys, everybody thinks they want freedom, but what they really want… is order.” -Valin Hess from The Mandalorian
@@grey4189 That sounds edgy and cool, but the truth is somewhere in the middle. People want a nice balance between freedom and order.
In general, without balance in life for an extended period of time, you always end up in a critical state of being. A lack of balance is a death end!
@@eyeCU13Who cares what people want? People are fuckin annoying. Humans are always complaining about Everything and trying to justify their flaws.
reign of terror? have you heard of the fucking sovietic union? mao? fuck off
banger quote
As someone who grew up in the "late socialism" of the struggling Soviet bloc, I think you missed a direct (and mutually hilarious) comparison with the reasoning of the last years of "decaying communism", in which we used the very same rhetorics to keep the status quo in place, something passionate capitalists both criticise and repeat to death:
- Back then the system and hegemonic ideology was also promoted as the "inevitable, natural, scientifically proven way of things", surpassing "failed experiments and stages" of the past.
- When things were not working out, it was explained that this is NOT the final stage of communism yet and the USSR will be reaching it in the distant year of 1980. The system is brilliant, just wait. In Czechoslovakia, they decided in July 1960 they reached full socialism already - on to the next one!
- Later during Prague Spring, Glasnost and Perestroika, all blame was put on the human factor ("the system is right and untouchable, its the corrupt individual people/ideological deviations/party factions who failed")
- In the end, the old guard and aging fathers and uncles of the revolution were defending its consumerist perks ("what comfortable lives you youngsters have compared to WW2/South Vietnam/Angola!") and comparing themselves with virtual and convenient benchmarks ("we might have queues for toilet paper, censorship and air polution but we dont have raging race wars and homelessness like in the US!").
- Towards the end, vocal critics were rarely jailed but instead told in a patronizing manner that they shouldnt criticise and sabotage the good system and instean roll up their sleeves and work for its benefit to make it better ("reform the party from within", and so on).
Tankies will criticise capitalism but never look at their pet favorite government type. Sad that you don't have more upvotes. I don't think capitalism is necessarily the best type of government just because I was born into it, but I dislike how the people making these kinds of videos have such a hard time looking inward.
it's almost like the method of consolidating economic power and wealth is irrelevant when the results are the same. The only thing that's different is if it's the government that has that power, or super powerful corporations.
@@chaincat33 Well, thats why the Eastern European socialist experience was often called state-run capitalism, because workers councils and power participation, progressive emancipatory struggle and other original socialist features were not really the case since at least late 1920s.
But in pub language, I think another thing is of note: no matter the ideology and economical model, the system will always end up like this when it isnt progressive, isnt supported by the youth and the "masses" (as we used to say) and instead relies on gatekeepers in their 50s who just want to protect the status quo, consolidate power and keep reliving the narrative of their own personal revolution of their generation. Very soon the phenomenon repeated itself: the revolutionary anti-communist student leaders who overthrew Soviet hegemony and socialism in Eastern Europe became status-quo warriors in their own right who defend the ideological legacy of their generation and now typically use the same rhetorics mentioned above against any people who want to change the system or its narrative rather than "roll up the sleeves to make it better".
Good point. Seems to me those commentators above and below misunderstood your sharp comment for which I am grateful. You didn't say those were the same political systems with same ending but that the reaction of people in different political decaying systems/society was the same. Am I right?
Marx defined capitalism as the private ownership of the means of production, an economic system not a political system. Of course if you consider what he meant by that, buried in his works, is the reality that the means of production is the individual "self", IE self-ownership.
Imagine supporting capitalism and yet you don't have capital yourself.
for us jews it doesnt matter if its capitalism or communism..we win in both..
@@telavivgaming Capitalism is a bottom of the pit and you can't have any vestiges of it left.
@@UmQasaann i make 6 million shekels every 5 years. the goyim are the ones that cant even get the vestiges.
Sorry sir i'm temporarily embarrased
@@telavivgaming
Lucky or genius 😅
"there is no alternative"
"it's the best of what we already have"
"it's not perfect but it will always works"
"the alternative will always be the worst"
Sounds more like an abused victims.
Well capitalism will invade your country and attempt to force capitalism unto you.
It's also what people said about slavery, feudalism, etc.
Or maybe they can just recognize the 5 century history along with strengths and flaws of the system..
capitalism has its place in history, it lead to advancements in technology previously unthinkable. however, as the past century has shown and with climate catastrophe at our doorsteps, it is time we said goodbye to capitalism. it has overstayed its welcome and we are better off without it.
Idk man. Advocating for an economic system which if applied on a national scale has been proven again and again to always leads to authoritarianism because human is naturally a competitive species sounds worse.
capitalism runs on the idea that everyone can get rich, and sure, everyone can, but everyone can’t.
it doesn't run on that idea. That is just your thought
Capitalism runs on the idea that everybody takes care of their own wallet
While in socialism, somebody else pays the bills
So sure, most are not gonna get rich, but they will be 100 times better than in a socialist society.
corny
@@FellTheSky well it doesn't openly run on that idea, but its a logical outcome of capitalism that as far as i know is just accepted and not really critiqued by capitalists (for obvious reasons)
Almost everyone can’t.
@@transcommiegrindfreakI think it is critiqued and that is why all capitalistic countries are mixed economies. The same applies to the successful socialistic countries (see China or Vietnam). Rather discussing the economic system, we should stick to discuss values and morality within the spectrum of a mixed economy.
And I would argue Switzerland for that matter does it currently the best (far from perfect)
People will defend capitalism until a proper alternative is offered. And most preferably an alternative which isn't proven failure, and hasn't cost humanity hundreds of millions of lives.
let's try to fast forward 100years and imagine our world. Maybe we find new system, that again works better for some than capitalism of 21 century did. People will look back and talk about capitalism just as we do about anything that was before capitalism. If you will dare to compare new system with old one, they will tell you about all lives lost in exploited 3rd world countries during capitalism etc... The point I want to make, is that you cannot criticize current system.
UA-cam is itself a capitalist platform
Democracy was a proven failure until it finally worked. A failure wherein it would destroy about ⅓ of the population where it was tested.
Capitalism has factually and historically cost more lives than communism ever did or could.
I agree. It's absolutely fine to criticize capitalism, it helps us evolve and find new alternatives. That's how we improved in history. But you can't make fun of people defending something which seems to work best. It's just like democracy, it's deeply flawed but it's the best we got.
I realized how bad of a lie personal responsibility is after realizing how many communities are polluted and ruined by factories and powerplants built near them. People are born into these towns with no way to escape. They have a life of breathing in, drinking, and eating toxic air/water/food and can't do anything about it. The personal responsibility crowd will say "they should move then." But the problem with that is moving with nearly no money isn't a solution, and having to save money will further poisoning yourself is not a solution. But if you propose to do something about the factory or power plant, the self responsibility crowd, will freak out and tell you that you can't do that, think of the business owner, jobs it provides, or some other vague thing.
Croatia had the same conversation in the early nineties... We went with a socialist state... More Croatians have left the country since we got into the EU (No work visa needed to move abroad anymore) then during a five year conflict after which all of the above followed.... Capitalism works, the reason people living in it think it doesn't is because most of you are not aware how difficult life can get, what you would label as tragedies is just another Tuesday in most of the rest of the world... The only problem with capitalism is that a system based on constant growth is doomed to fail because it turns innovation into a product to sell instead of a philosophy to live by and thusly lowers the collective quality of life, but it is still the most advanced system we have, another good thing is also that capitalism works just the same if you replace money with reputation.... I'd worry more about those who believe that the world owes them something just because they were born in a poor area.... I'm Balkan btw and this whole video us just a recycled interpretation of Russian/Soviet propaganda from the eighties...
@@BeaverThe01.😂😂😂😂look a pathetic defense of capitalism!
@@BeaverThe01.Also bud you don’t even have a sound grasp of what capitalism is. It was always about commodifying innovation and therefore lessening the need for human capital. You sound like the typical ignorant and arrogant capitalist!
Nobody who truly believes in socialism or me (a marxist ) believes in utopia, and yet you capitalist sink lower in your filth and then declare “It can only get worse!”
The proletariat know what hardship is and hopefully one day they’ll know freedom.
@@BeaverThe01. I'd say all don't work. Especially when Capatalism wasn't designed for people that look like the white man. As a Native American it's hard to be considered for anything especially when people have preconceptions of us as savage gangsters, addicted junkies and dirty. When the Europeans came with their capitilistic agendas they also intended for us to be wiped out. Capitilism is dictatorship just with a very convincing mask.
@@humanOctupus great retort
"It turns out to be easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism"
This hits hard. Yesterday I had a chat with several old friends. He was observant enough to realize our current socioeconomic order is fucked up, but his conclusion is "this must be the end of times", rather than seeing it as a proof of capitalism's degeneracy (edit) and the revolutionary potential in it
Late stage....existence? Capitalist propaganda can be powerful thanks to its ubiquity.
Yeah no, commerce will not just dissapear because some angry youths keep saying it "fucked up".
Your unrealistic standards cannot hold up in the face of reality which is why socialism always had to rely on nationalism if it did not want to end up opening its economy.
Unlike communism capitalism is not in ideology but an observation. Also not everyone is obssessed with violently overthrowing society. Although I do agree that there is a lot of potential in the current mess that is our modern world.
Just dont expect a revival of the soviet union or something in that direction. Its more likely that the nazis would return than communism coming back. Without the backing of imperial germany marxism would have never gone anywhere and the main form of socialism would have been fascism, not communism.
@@miniaturejayhawk8702 cope and seethe
😂 capitalist degeneracy....are you mental? EVERYTHING deteriorates....capitalism just lasts a bit longer than the rest. How stupid is this generation....capitalism is not more evil than other systems....never did any economist claim any system maintains itself indefinitely
@@ChiliForEveryone Seems like you’re the ones coping lmao
I have a strong feeling all of these new comments saying 'uhh capitalism isnt bad' don't actually watch the video and are not even willing to change their minds in the first place no matter what. It's such an interesting group of people, capitalists. Kissing the boot that crushes them.
7:17 I mean exactly here I stopped when saying we capitalist believe in the basis of ruthless competition at the expense of others kicking the ladder and greedily enjoying the spoils is simply a natural state of being reflected throughout our own state of being. That’s not our core case bliebe and if you define capitalist like this than you look through lenses of ideology how Zizek likes to say. So I totally agree with you most of the viewers definitely didn’t watch the whole clip. but he makes it quite hard with ballooning his sentences to sound more intellectual when he could have condensed it way simpler and more understandable for the average viewer.
You have a feeling, but you aren't certain, yet sought to make a judgement anyhow? How ideological and emotional of you.
@@creativeembargo I agree on the point that he could attempt to have a less overly intellectual vibe to how he approaches topics, he often uses highly abstracted language when he could have spoken in a more 'normal people can understand this' kind of way, it can be largely ignored once you have enough understanding of terminology, but this is beginner stuff, and beginners don't know what a 'commodity fetishism' is or what a 'dialectical synthesis' is
the worst poverty is not in capitalist nations, its in non capitalist nations. my god. how are you this ignorant?
@@ronaldreagan-ik6hz literally the entirety if africa would like to make minor correction
You aren't entitled to other people's money. Ever. If you want socialism, move to Venezuela. You can see how well it's working out for them...😉
based and fuck landlords, car dependency and "as a service" models
do you think socialism is when people take your money unfairly?
aaaaaa fuking men
Dude , venenzuela is fucked up because ppl wont trade with them because they decided to use an alternative system.
@@WoundedWings Venezuela is fucked up because they adopted socialism. nice try dude.
@@wizziamthegreatyes
We can't really imagine a time after capitalism because we are stuck in this Zeitgeist. It takes true change of mind and the need to adapt. Capitalism is the "comfortable" dead end of a civilization. Like a fire you place inside your home to warm yourself, using your own furniture as fuel until it consumes the whole house and you inside.
That's actually a fucking great analogy, i'll probably use it sooner or later, yoink stolen
@@kawaiiburgio8970 Fine with that homie. ♥
I agree political systems need to keep evolving but which precise measures do you propose?
Wait do you mean measures to change the sistem or the next system that should replace capitalism?
@@JesusCaminoGarcia I can't make an educated guess but I can see that with the removal of capitalism and maybe money in one shape or form, it won't necessarily be a better world. But we are on a slow shift anyway so maybe in our lifetime we'll see some reforms.
People think everyone can "win" capitalism if they work hard enough. But for there to be winners, there has to be losers.
You will always lose if you're a goyim in both capitalism and communism
About a million losers for every winner, at that.
And yet people equally believe that everyone is treated fairly under socialism due to the grace of the governing body. But who ultimately decides what is fair and what isn’t? And how viable is it truly with the populations we currently have?
Not to discredit your argument, it is a sad reality of capitalism, but if capitalism is seen as too complacent with avarice and socialism is too easy to corrupt then what ultimately is a solution to these matters. Assuming we’re not also taking cultural and geographical factors into account.
@@blackfox4138 everybody. Democracy in socialism needs to be way more direct and local.
@@krod6535 you would ask nearly 330 million people-each with their own values, beliefs, interests, and prejudices-to have a say in economic policy? Do you believe a population that size is capable of making fair decisions regarding taxes, investments, wages, and land ownership?
Well capitalism still better then socialist or communist antihuman ideologies, lol
Want something better than capitalism? You have so much posibilities to invent something qualitatively new. Yet you just choosing much more failed and outdated system as an alternative. I just don`t understand what`s wrong with you, guys.
Ah yes, the beloved call to capitalism's perceived superiority over outdated and failed ideologies such as socialism and communism. Allow us to dust off the annals of economic history and explore these remarks a bit more.
Let's first unpack the unfounded assertion that socialism and communism are antihuman. If valuing social solidarity, common ownership, equality, and free access to basic needs is what constitutes antihuman, then what does capitalism's tenet of individualism and unequal wealth distribution make it?
And let's address this mistaken idea that communism is outdated and has failed in the past. Is it possible that it's not the ideology itself that has failed, but rather the historical context, societal conditions, and flawed human execution? Perhaps we're viewing the issue from the wrong end of the telescope.
And the sentiment behind inventing something qualitatively new as an alternative to capitalism, while appealing, also fails to recognise the strength and evolution of Marxist theories. If one in fact spends any time researching Marx’s critique of capitalism, they might actually understand that it's less about opting for a failed system, and more about learning from the lessons of the past to improve on future iterations.
And the presumption that capitalism is the 'better' system also reflects an adoration for individual wealth accumulation and blatant disregard for those who can't. Surely a system that breeds such wealth disparity, promoting dog-eat-dog competition, encouraging exploitation of workers, and destroys the environment for profit, wouldn't be the epitome of being anti-human.
And as we take off our capitalist tinted glasses, it actually becomes clear that the individualism of capitalism actually alienates people, stifles co-operative spirit and warps humanity’s natural predisposition towards solidarity. Is it really a system to admire?
And yes, while we can critique socialist and communist ideologies for their past executions, this doesn't discount their potential future adaptations. But painting capitalism as the ultimate model of societal structure ignores its inherent flaws, turning a blind eye to the millions struggling under its boot. Surely, that's something a jester might do.
And the audacity to imply that any economic system has failed more catastrophically than capitalism! Laughable at best. So let's chat about financial crashes, poverty rates, worker exploitation, climate change... How's that for anti-human? Now, come back when you've truly engaged with Marx's work and we can have a grown-up discussion.
Can you plz tell me why you don't actually show what capitalism really is, even at the start of the video you said stuff that's not even closely related to capitalism.
There is something I find quite funny in my family. Both my mom and dad were born and raised in West Germany in the late 60's to early 80's, meaning they were bombarded with anti-communist propaganda their whole childhoods. Ever since my own views shifted more and more left since 2016, I have started sprinkling in suggestions of ways to "fix the system" that come straight from Socialism and Communism whenever economic topics come up at breakfast or lunch.
Funny thing is, whenever I say it like "In Socialism this and that would be the norm", they always disagree and say the usual thing like "It could never work like that" and "That was tried and failed already". However, whenever I bring up the same exact points and suggestions again without preceding by mentioning Socialism or Communism, they always agree that it'd be better if things were like that.
@@elmonomon The impossibility is in your mind, which is precisely the phenomenon the OP describes. It's easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism, etc.
@@elmonomon The most childish mindset is the fear of change. You are scared because the slavers convinced you that only their slave system can work.
@eon gerbe Be honest. A lot of the shrinking of the gap was Western Germany's growth going to hell since the 1990s.
@eon gerbe Define "economy". DDR was highly developed in many ways, but it lacked the "secret sauce" of finance capital which makes régimes like the United States appear to be solvent (i.e. "successful").
@eon gerbe One of what? Jesus Christ, man.
Wait a second. My Pa went to work at a blue collar job at ei dupont shortly after he returned from the Korean War. His job provided a good pay check, matching savings, stock by in, medical, dental, 2 weeks of vacation a year and a very safe work environment (at time his plant was certified as the safest factory in the world) My mom stayed home and took care of the kids. He could buy a new car pretty frequently, he bought some vacation/retirement property and he could send his kids to college.
When I was in my twenties he told me he lived in the Golden years of the factory worker. And I laughed at him. At that time corporate taxes were 90%. But rather than spending that money on taxes, corporations invested that money back in the company and its employees. After Reagan cut corporate taxes to 30% there was no incentive for corporations to take care of their workers. Capitalism ram a muck and all the profits went to the top tier CEOs and VPs.
I'm 67 now he's 94. There are no blue collar jobs like that in America anymore. The retirement health insurance is gone, the life insurance he paid for 60 years was canceled. The promise of America is gone! THAT'S WHAT CAPITALISM WILL GET YOU!
Your dad thrived in the days of American first economic nationalism, which wasn't 100% capitalism. Nor was it socialist. It was the correct balance
@@quicklangstories6114same result tho
And still you had the homeless die, and still you’d have whole families starving. Lol capitalism is shit no matter how you dress it up
Yeah, what a great balance that it lead to where we are now. If all you want is health insurance and don't care if Pa did warcrimes in Korea to get it then you are, objectively, a moderate fascist.
@@alldud13that’s not to say that it wasn’t due to the reason of taking the system to the extreme though. it was merely because Reagan believed his ideology on capitalism, and decreased taxation on corporations, would in turn lead to not only better care of the workers (the original commenters dad being a good representation of what the turn out was expected to be), but the lower class in general, in turn boosting the margin of middle and upper class in relation to the lower class. the exact opposite happened however, and while the profit margins were higher, there was no longer an incentive to give back to the workers who made it all happen in the first place. it’s not as though the result that occurred was inevitable from the beginning purely because of capitalism as a base economic system. it’s all about proper management and the government has failed on a fundamental level.
"If you can't beat them, join them... why show solidarity?"
I hate it when people say variations of that. As someone who possesses nothing but extreme unrelenting hatred for almost every other human I ever meet, I am capable of understanding that to help myself and the other very few who aren't utter wastes of space, it's better to just help everyone. You don't have to care about others to believe that helping them is the right thing to do.
helping people is fine. being forced to help people against your will is not.
capitalism wins.
Misanthropy is cringe. Do not fall into the pseud trap of thinking cynicism is a replacement for intelligence or character.
You are, mentally speaking, still a teenager. It is imperative that you banish this cringe worldview.
socialism doesnt help the people you think it does. LOL
"fear of the alternative" is spot on. I'm sick of people who defend capitalism out of a fear of breaking the status quo in the back of their mind that they don't even know is there, a fear not of their own thought but Brave new world'd in.
Yeah! We saw alternative in Russia, in China, in Vietnam, in Cuba, in Venezuela, and, ofc, in fucking Yugoslavia both the author of the video and I am from. And we saw how it works. Simply fantastic!
@@spacecat4691 even the Roman empire didn't have capitalism XD
@@elpsykoongro5379 I know it didn't. Yet, it had more capitalistic economic model than the ancient Greek city-states. Anyway, both of them heavily relied on the resources which would be unimaginable today - slavery, war/pillaging, and the ultimate lack of experience of the neighboring barbaric peoples regarding trade. Contrary to the belief, the medieval era was not purely feudalistic; it was mixed, both feudalistic and capitalistic (capitalism in its early stage) model. By the end of the era, feudalism was completely abandoned, and that led to fully capitalistic system by the time of Enlightenment.
@@spacecat4691 how do you know slavery isn't used today?
@@elpsykoongro5379 Of course, it's used today. But not in the capitalist countries. And please, do not tell me that we are slaves of the banks and corporations. No, I don't like them. But I am not a slave.
The Greek and Roman societies were relying heavily on slavery, much more than, let's say Americans in the 19th century were, when only about 1 percent of the people had slaves. The ancients had to use slaves and wage wars in order to maintain their economy. Some Greek cities used piracy as almost only source of income. With all their regulations and distributions, agriculture and craftsmanship were not enough. Extra sources were needed to keep the system going.
One of my favourite Marx quotes: “Economists have a singular method of procedure. There are only two kinds of institutions for them, artificial and natural. The institutions of feudalism are artificial institutions, those of the bourgeoisie are natural institutions”
Marx was tard
Marx was an intellectual idiot
When they introduced the concept of money , monkeys grinded for it and spent it to mate with female monekeys , the money was exchanged for bananas , thats all i have to say.
U seriously compare humans to monkeys
@@akiamini4006 that's...not capitalism, that's bartering. and on a wide scale its mercantilism, considering the context of the experiment.
Capitalism is the perfect system!... for anyone not being exploited.
Why label it as exploitation? The notion of starting your own business may seem enticing, but the practical hurdles are considerable. Acquiring financial capital, gathering human resources, and navigating various challenges are substantial barriers. Instead, individuals often utilize their employer's assets as a pragmatic choice. This doesn't negate the fact that the power dynamic is unequal, however, it reframes the narrative, suggesting a pragmatic decision rather than a one-sided exploitation. In this scenario, relying on your employer's resources is a strategic move rather than a one-sided exploitation, acknowledging the mutually beneficial nature of the relationship.
@@cyr6110 It can be mutually beneficial if one intends to profit. Either the consumer is fucked, the worker is fucked, or both are fucked. In the world of capitalism, it is a zero-sum game, meaning that in order for one to gain, another has to lose.
Only thing more pathetic is defending system that fails every time
It fails because it broke the hegemony constructed by the USA and the western countries, simple as that.
Spot on i clicked on the video for the title but it sounds stupid so far.
Define failure. ua-cam.com/video/nFUC0UWgdGY/v-deo.htmlsi=hRrDfJowCYqzEgXQ
this is a stupid argument,socialism failed around the world because of the power that imperialistic countries have to stop it from succedding,the same happened with feudalism,and here we are now living in capitalism
@@Pedro-S1lva Dude, but... how can socialism fail because of the imperialistic countries? Why would you need them in the first place? Easy answer: you are delusional
"Capitalism is imperfect but it's the best we have" Me a few years ago before randomly being recommended a Hakim video. The point i want to make and what i believe is that some people can change if they are given a helping hand 😊
What do you support then? Communism😂😂😂😂 capitalism is dogshit but tell me a idea that works better.
Absolutely. I'm a relatively recent "converter" myself, so I'll always give people the benefit of the doubt.
yeah dude
CHAZ looked really good
all those anarchists totally know how to do even the most fundamental things on their own
@@ambmamb8370 Yeah totally hmg definitely didnt turn into a dictatorship in like 2 seconds
I do hope you are right, i have been trying to change opinion for years and don't feel i have made much headway, most people just can't be bothered to think and prefer to delude themselves that our leaders have their best interests at heart. Apathy is the greatest friend of the present system.
When someone uses the catchphrase "this isn't real capitalism", you can absolutely destroy them by saying "then the soviet union wasn't real communism".
That person either short citruits, giving away their true identity as a governent robot, or actually thinks about what they just said.
It's not like after hearing that "the soviet union wasn't a real communism", I'm out of cards. Not at all. If I was only reproaches about recognized attempts with making the communism, indeed, my arguments would always have a problem if something should be recognized as a communism. There are various conceptual problems with establishing a real communism. The most problematic thing with keeping the coherence of the idea is to bring together the fight with individual exploatation, and establishing collective power. The same factors that were making employment in the capitalism exploatation, will stand after making property collectivized.
Except it literally wasn't communist so that retort just gives their argument unnecessary validity
Political leaders of the soviet union worked to reach communism. Current political leaders are not working to reach pure capitalism, but constantly impose anti-capitalist regulations.
Yeah, sorry mate, but the Soviet Union was a (very very very very very) different shade of lipstick on the same totalitarian exploitative imperialistic Russian pig, regardless of its stated intentions. I could at best be regarded as a totalitarian state with limited "elections" planned economy and an unusually high number of robust(ish) social programs. An attempt, sure, but too held down by inefficiencies that technology and social progress had yet to settle to be called a fair shake at communism, at least certainly not comparable to the utter juggernaut of global capitalism.
It literally wasn’t btw
This is straight up 40 minutes of rhetorical delusional rationale. Here's why:
You need to understand what capital actually is. Capital is anything that you own that is considered to be a resource that has some form of subjective value.
Once you understand what capital is, you have to understand where it comes from and how its utilized. Capital is a resource that is allocated as needed.
Now we know what capital is. So what is capitalism? Capitalism is the free and willful allocation of resources.
This is where a lot of people usually get lost when it comes to socialism and communism. Socialism is the democratic allocation of resources. Communism is when the state allocates resources. In either case, the free trade, or free allocation, of resources is no longer allowed.
Modern capitalism, as it's mistakenly referred to, is no longer free trade. It is Crony Capitalism which is ruled by the bogeousie. When live in a Captured Industry ripe with lobbied interests, crony capitalist interests.
Rules and safeguards were removed which caused the homogenization of corporate interests. They were granted the rights of personhood with none of the consequences.
If you're going to attack an idea and white-wash the proletariat with your false hoods and false beliefs, then at least be something more than a pseudo intellectual that simply feeds into the system by doing what he can to garner views and capital through self-interest.
Carl Marx wanted to revolt against the industrial revolution because he feared the proletariat and other capitalists losing their ownership of the production of their labor.
I'm so sick of all of this non-sense. Everything else is just noise. Rant done!
your critique immediately falls flat because you incorrectly defined communism and socialism, probably the easiest thing to define
"Socialism is when the government does stuff. And it's more socialism the more stuff it does! And if it does a whole lot of stuff, it's communism!"
"socialism is when the government does stuff, and when it does a lot of stuff, that's communism" - Carl Marks 'Das Capital"
Free and willful exploitation indeed
Imagine supporting comunism and yet you don't have food yourself and your family 🤨
imagine supporting capitalism yet you cant afford anything at all working 24/7 and as a result being indebted forever
imagine supporting capitalism in the year 2023
Communism works on paper, but human greed and corruption doesn't allow for it to work.
0:26 Churchill never said that. He said “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those others that have been tried.”
give evidence my man and yes he did indeed sayed that
@@Uwhwvwgwh I just checked and he's right. The quote is about democracy. A simple search will show you the truth rather than relying on a stranger to get back to you with the evidence
le fascisme est mieux que la démocratie
I guess we could trust a wealthy aristocrat serving an imperialist monarchy on his opinion about democracy. But, in any case, he was speaking about 'bourgeoisie democracy' in particular, which is inseparable from the capitalist economic system, just like, say, military democracy of germanic tribes is inseparable from their tribal land ownership system and slave trade.
video generally pretty uninformed ngl
I am going to share this video with friends of mine here in Kenya who believe in Capitalist Realism. I wish to succeed in pushing against ideas that keep the chains on us citizens of the 3rd world , the exploited populous working class, strongly. Thankyou Balkan Odyssey 🙌🙌🙏
The revolution will not come up in imperialist nations, but rather overexploited ones. We depend on the third world.
Thank you for sharing and for the support!
Aye I'm Kenyan too🇰🇪
But who makes decisions in a communist/socialist?
Who decides who gets what and what
How is wealth created in a socialist country?
@@immanuelkimani3712 Borrowing from the examples of the USSR and China, the state would be a key factor in determining resource allocation and distribution. The political organization of then states would be consisted of workers councils from all labor factions, having brought the factors of production under democratic centralized control. There is more to add to be included shortly
I'm Cuban, I lived 15 years in Cuba, I wouldn't recommend it unless you have connections, luck or some sort of psick love for communism and being poor. You want an alternative to capitalism, fine, but not communism or socialism.
@KickboxingTALP We have no freedom, we have no rights, we have no opportunities, we have no money, we have no food, our education system is a mess, our health system is garbage, we have no resources, we are extremely poor, we are almost without electricity, our country is pretty dangerous(you can be killed for a bunch of sausages or a package of cigarettes) even being weapons possession illegal(we don't even have guns), the government tortures and kills innocent people, the kids don't belong to their parents, you can't even move from your city without government's permission, if you are a 16 years old boy you have to go to the army then the government has the right to use you to hit people who complain. If you live as a Cuban in Cuba, you are no longer human.
Cubans were poor even when cuban landlords were swelling on selling resources to US, that's why the revolution happened. So are the working people of other 90% of capitalist countries who basically export cheap resources and buy expensive commodities and services in return from so called developed countries while the most of the nation's wealth sticks to the hands of wealthy few. As for the current state of affairs, don't blame communism (which Cuba never had in the first place) with your own bad management of the economy: Cuba basically still lives in a paradigm of resource-exporting country with little to no actual progressive features in the economy the revolution could bring to life, which is further worsened by the fact US holds the cuban exports by the throat. Rhetorics =/= actual economy
Defending communism is pathetic, actually.
This mf probably thinks he will be doing his dream job in the commune (he will be forced to work in the mines until he dies of exhaustion)
Can you tell me why?
@@MinhTran-xd8jolet me ask you a question: what role do you think you will have in communism?
@@prometheus9732 Labourer the core force of communism
@@MinhTran-xd8jo sure. lets bring back the old USSR, since that was such a success right?
Arguments in defense of capitalism come across to me sounding like arguments in defense of cancer:
"But what about the cancer cells? Don't they have the right to form sizeable tumors which they worked hard to build?"
"Look at all the magnificent tumor growth cancer has brought us!"
"Look, right now you're a regular cell, but maybe one day with enough smarts and hard work you could potentially go malignant and form a massive tumor of your very own"
"War and violence is human nature" therefore lets have endless war
Amazing😂
Epic analogy 10/10
If "working hard" and "taking a risk" are noble, then defenders of capitalism should at least be okay with other crimes committed by less well-off people. As you can see, most criminals have to risk of losing their freedom (going to prison), working hard to pull off thievery while be careful about getting caught etc. Capitalists are committing similar crimes, but at a much bigger scale, but it's legal because they're the one writing the laws.
@@mickeyg7219 thievery is still inferior to honest labor
degeneracy is always easier and disruptive
Defending Milosevic & Serbian nationalism is even more pathetic. 🤢
Being a serbian nationalist mean being pro Yugoslavia? Ohh no anyway.
Ah the oppressed, victim mindset. If only the system wasn't keeping us all down. We just need everything handed to us by the government.
communism literally advocates for the withering away of the state, it is a stateless society
@@GlassesAndCoffeeMugsjajajja
@@alguienabsurdo2367 im stating the definition of communism lmao
@@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs "advocates". Literally all the states where the slightest bit of government intervention has increased, more and more the governments keep increasing. My country is currently on the midst of getting ravaged by socialism and every single government system is failing. The point is that whatever you people believe their government's political ideology is, governmental power ruins the livelihood of the people, as politicians are the one and only class for whom it is legal to point a gun at us demanding money, while being non-productive themselves. There is a huge reason as to why a country like Switzerland, in which the government's power is severly reduced and regionalized, people have the best quality of life in the entire world. The fault with communism is they centralize every service, thus creating a "public" (state-owned) monopoly, which they claim to want to destroy.
Any system that is abusable will be abused.
@@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs Communism - Karl Marx's version of socialism - never advocates for statelessness. That is just parroting propaganda from people like the one who made this video. Marx implies this one time in his whole career and there's no advocacy like you claim. In his "Critique of Gotha Program part 1", Marx claims utopia has to begin first - basically claiming the opposite, that the state will last forever without an unmeasurable miracle taking place.
Defending a failed economic system that has proven itself to be a failure time and time again while also lacking the knowledge as to why free market/capitalist systems have prevailed is pathetic
The current system is the one failing though. "Socialism has failed time and time again" is just a popular catchfrase as addressed in the video, please watch the full video before commenting...
Our current frree market system is eroding through the implementation of social economic policy and the growing amount of cronyism that has infested over the years. Maybe actually understanding how a free market works and thrives is important before making a snarky comment on something you have little knowledge on@@abelg9053
china proves the fact that socialism works if your country is big enough, russia was always poor that's why it didn't work there, after ussr has fallen every warsaw pact country switched to capitalism, but if america was ever communist, it would work. America is just rich enought to be on any enconomic model. A social democracgy wouldn't be the end of the word for america
you know that the first capitalist societies failed and got crushed by the landlords or the church in italy and france, then the jews came and inflected the church to allow them to lender money to the majority christians , and this is how capitalism was born , and it's the same today people get loans to start a business or buy property etc
if loans are abolished the system will collapse in one day
Capitalism may be the best we have, but it's damned sure not the best we can do!
underrated take. Permission to use this quote on a document i'm working on!
@@werechu7065 Oh hey, thanks for reminding me - this is def one of the best lines I've come up with. Please do use it, I'd love for everyone in the world to be saying that, you know, it being so true, and all. :)
Why are you so sure? Where is the proof that we can do better? I would love that to be true but I just don't see it
@@mucicafrajer you don't see it? Dammmmmm bro, you lack imagination. Respectfully
@@collinsmathebula7384 Oh I have imagination, but the things I imagine here can't really be done without pretty much everyone working for others instead of for themselves (it will never happen)
it's always annoying whenever people come into the comments section of basically anywhere on youtube and out of nowhere they always talk about how good capitalism is and defend it like their lives depended on it. some people always try to push a status quo agenda to as many people as possible, saying things like "it will work out eventually trust me bro" or "what is wrong with you? you clearly aren't working hard enough, work harder and things will be better somehow"
they defend any and all big business for no particular reason exactly, but I assume it's in the hopes that maybe these big guys like elon musk or jeff bezos would give those people money for defending them against people that want to tear down the capitalist system. but I also hate to tell them that no matter how hard they meatride the billionaires, how hard they push the status quo, how hard they try to crush dissent, the result will always end up the same, they will not get any money from the rich and they will not be able to completely stop dissent towards capitalism.
you are a lazy commie
Why would they not push for status quo if they benefit from it? The current system benefits them and allows them to poke at you as you whimper under the boot of a system you are not content with
As opposed to socialism that solved those issues ? Just look at all of those socialist utopias around the world...
I was born in socialist Yugoslavia which was maybe most successful out of all and it sucked balls.
Transfer all power to the state and congratulations , now you have one mega corp that controls everything. Nice job geniuses.
Or give control of manufacturing to people, and you get Yugoslavia scenario where random morons control complex processes. There were 3 or 4 times more people employed than necessary , nobody did anything but bare minimum , all worker benefits were abused to maximum. In the end they consumed more than they produced and result was poverty.
I am not defending capitalism , but I am saying that socialism is retarded. But hey , I wish you luck in your endeavors. And as soon as you socialist morons make one remotely functioning socialist state I will deeply reconsider my position.
Same people who let their kids get touched by their local priest then come into the comments to preach about jesus.
Copium is a powerful drug.
They like the businesses you say they should not. For example, Bezos' Amazon is voted best company to work for in the world on LinkedIn. Normally, if you work at Amazon in any position there, you earn more money than anywhere you could do that work, plus you are working somewhere with a lot of potential. People are more concerned with working at well-run businesses and getting highly paid with great opportunity for advancement than changing any status quo. They'd wonder, don't you like getting paid and promoted and working at coveted jobs? If anything, they'd want more small businesses, unions and traditional companies to start to run like Bezos'.
wish this video actually debunked the arguments for capitalism instead of resorting to "this has already been discussed by many" shortcut
Thank you for warning me
This would be a very long video if that weren’t the case.
The arguments for capitalism are disingenuous anyway
@@AlexMunz-bg3bc Right the usual taking a back seat
And actually he did debunk some of these ideas, if you took the time to listen, and even link further videos addressing the older ways of thinking in the description. So please.
Video made possible by capitalism. 😂🤣
Under capitalism.
It will be very hard to convince me since I am from Venezuela, and I could see how my society was totally destroyed by people that were improvising and trying to force whatever is not capitalism on to others.
Your country is struggling because of a trade embargo and that your socialist governments doesn’t know what socialism is because no socialist country ever does.
@@VinceRoop-sj8fp bro really told a Venezuelan who lives in HIS country how it actually is l o l
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope only retards listen to essentialist arguments, this us how feminists argue, “we’re women so you can’t argue what we say about women,” do you have a brain tumour?
@@SkorpleSlop the British empire had a GDP of almost 700 billion dollars and Germany has a GDP of 4.6 trillion dollars…………… you wanna compare more countries from the past and present and should I explain further about how you don’t know what you’re talking about?
@@VinceRoop-sj8fp Ummm, how is GDP relevant here? All I said is that if a government can’t resist embargoes, then it doesn’t work. Please get a better argument before you say someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about
The problem with capitalism is that it promotes individuality and not a mindset to help the community as it should be in a society. Capitalism is a society where money is God.
Socialism promotes individualism as well as community, you can't have one without the other
@@RealFemale69 The thing is Marxists destroyed the notion of socialism and transformed into some kind of perversion.
A good version of it can be the Scandinavian one where the state actually help you but it needs to be nationalised and only for citizens thus not having migrants profiteering from it.
@@RealFemale69 not that true, it promotes the community but it makes the individual into a soulless machine who most work because it's their duty
The true middle ground (and healthy) is catholicism were the individual and the community are in harmony
@Levente Gyimesi what do you think the avarage person does under communism?
@@elpsykoongro5379 Learns how to spell? You are just a typical example of someone who is unable to defend capitalism, so you conflate socialism with communism, without knowing anything about any of them.
Try to understand what it actually is before you try to chritizise it.
First off, it's not a system, its rather lack of it.
Capitalism is simply just an individualliatic view where the means of production should be not just provately owned bit also individual owned.
Each individual has the right to own their own means of production simply because they made it themselves.
There is no capitalism if you do not respect the individuals Natural Right to have ownership/sovereignity/authority/power over their own life, works/trade/business, and property.
Any violtion of this right is the very definition of what a crime actually is and also what slavery means.
Furthermore, its the individuals Natural Right to decide for themselves who they will associate with, interact with, do business with, and to decide on what terms and conditions that should happen on.
No one gets to dictate the rules or use force to get their way by violating individuals Natural Right.
It should be a free market trade for it can be considered to be capitalism in any way shape or form.
Yes and I absolutely agree.
@@chris135x Yeah, me too. 🙄
Oh, well isn't this a delightful, little romanticised love letter to capitalism! Allow me to tear apart your notions like capitalism rips apart workers' rights.
Firstly, let's tackle this adorable idea that capitalism is the 'lack of a system.' In actuality, capitalism is a very specific system, it's just rigged in favour of those who hold the wealth. Far from being 'simply an individualistic view', it's an institutionalised machinery, fuelled by exploitation and driven by an insatiable lust for profit.
The very basis of your argument is problematic. Why should the means of production be privately or individually owned at all? Shouldn't they instead be owned collectively by those who labour on them? And how convenient that under the capitalist system, someone can make a fortune off others' labour and justify it with a simple 'I own this, so I deserve all the profits'.
You also proclaim each individual has a 'natural right' to the fruits of their own labour. Oh, how splendidly capitalist! Of course, workers labouring away in factories are more than often reaping only a fraction of the profits from the products they make, while the capitalists at the top reap the benefits. Now who's committing a crime? Who's practicing slavery?
Your 'natural rights' to associate with who you will and conduct business how you see fit are also a perfect smokescreen to cover exploitative practices as well. Is it a 'natural right' to manipulate the labour market, force workers into horrific conditions, or abuse their labour for the capitalists' gain?
You can sugarcoat it all you want, but the reality is far less sweet. Capitalism isn't about freedom, it's about ensuring that a select few have the freedom to exploit others, hidden behind the illusion of 'free trade'. So thank you for your high-flown tribute to capitalism, but we're not buying what you're selling.
@@JP-fb8ni TL;DR
You don't know that capitalism isn't the problem. Politicians and bureaucrats are.
@@JP-fb8ni You conflate corporatism for capitalism.
You clearly have no idea what either is.😆😃
If you ever take a break from studying Marxist propaganda you should read Human Action by Ludwig von mises. But , you seem pretty set in your ways so…🤷🏻. Pretty cool that you put like 20 ad breaks in the anti capitalism video👌🏻
It's suspicious that the more left leaning the video the more likely I am to see a Prager U ad.
I got an ad from the fuckin hoover institute 🤣
youtube has a strong Right Wing Christian Bias
I think people who benefit the most from capitalism today aren't really into defending it ideologically instead it's done by thinktank loosers. It's disheartening because there's a big opportunity to push better ideas but we are all just waste our time consuming so much digital content.
Yep they have an entire army of bribed pundits and advocates
I defend capitalism because of the idea. What are you left leaning NPCs on about?
This is actually embarrasing, I thought I'd come across someone like Russel Brand, someone that disagrees with me on certain things but ultimately has the good of the people at heart. What I found instead is a bot farm from far left extremists attempting to rewrite history and definitions. Disgraceful, I expected too much and afforded you more good faith than you would your own ideas and "convictions".
@@chris135x I'm talking about prominent capitalist, you dont need to worry about anything.
@@chris135x An NPC mean a non-playing character. Just like the 9-5 zombie slave that defend it's master that you are.
You're projecting, rightard NPC.
As a Person from ex soviet country i will defence capitalism, without capitalism we had almost no products, empty shops and we still had social inaquality and privileged groups
Very correct, although many have no money to buy food during capitalism as well.
There must be a better way, a different way from both of these options
@@Discussion4Peace Oh god someone actually rational in these comments, what a sight for sore eyes. Agreed. While I will defend capitalism (or rather our modern system which is heavily modified capitalism) as the best system SO FAR, it is also FAR from perfect and requires further improvement. We will probably never stop needing further improvement.
now you got a 1000 different brands of yogurt and the average person can't buy half of them.
@@Discussion4PeaceAnd do you think that during communism there were no poor people? Whats going on with you people?
@@saturncvitor2096Oh yes, because poor financial situation of some people is caused by random companies right? Seriously? It's like saying you are poor because someone in different city rides a bike. It doesnt make any sense. Economy isn't zero-sum game. Just becuase someone else makes money doesn't mean you lose it. Damn, quite the opposite. Other people making money is good for you becuase it boosts the economy. Also, it creates work places. Sure, the system isn't perfect. But insisting that socialism/communism is the solution is like saying that the best cure for cancer is a bullet in the back of the head.
Here is how I feel about this, capitalism sucks but even if you overthrow it “unless great care is made” what replaces it may end up being much worse. And the reason for that is imperfect people can easily make imperfect decisions. Revolutionaries seldom consider this before rising up against their oppressors. If the whole ideas is to improve shouldn’t we consider this before revolution takes place?
Amen!
Where is the great minds when it's time to plan and implement a better system?
Capitalism is the worst system besides all the other ones
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable"
Also, you can't trust politicians to cut their own power and payment. Not to mention, the people we need to create those systems would never win the popularity contest.
What would replace it exactly 🤔
lmfao americans are ridiculous , this ,THIS is better than anything else we could do ?
My dude, you understand you can start a non-profit right? Go ahead, do it, I dare you. You seem educated and smart. You also sound somewhat young - hence don't have much responsibilities.
I will never get how people who say they're the most concerned about state of the world do fuckall, except theoretical masturbation on platform owned by techno monopolists.
they never will, we already saw what happens in chaz lol
they do plenty, just bc this single guy isnt solving world hunger doesnt mean anything.
do you understand how many worker rights rn you have that you wouldnt have if not for socialists, unions, ect?
non-profits/charities are good, but they are bandaids, non permanent fixes
@@molotovchucker that is a very cynical outlook. Changing even one individuals live can have profound impact on society. I do not want you or the author of this video to be solving the world hunger man, it's good to realize there are problems, that's just a first step tho. When all you do is to point them out and then say it's others who should fix it you become same type of parasite as corporate consultants. Maybe, just maybe stop wallowing in your ideological puddle and look at how world is instead of dreaming how it should be.
Came here from TheDeprogram, looking forward to the video! :)
Glad to have you here!
@@BalkanOdyssey_ Glad to be here haha Excellent video :)
The whole idea of the economy and Capitalism in general is that you buy in. Meaning you participate in the trading of wealth, and goods, services, and even shares of these things. We seek to make things as human beings and Capitalism seeks to exploit just this. You make meaning with yourself. The goal of a free market capitalist is to apply your meaning to the market. Your reading and looking into things you don't understand and interpret things according to facts and trends. This is human nature. To exploit things. Laws, patterns, tools to just a means to and end. We can make things according to our needs and we can make things we want. It's the consumer that decides what he wants. He wants what he needs. He says that's practical and pragmatic. Though sometimes what you want isn't what you need. We often hear the discussion of a free market but don't necessarily see one in practice or we place rules and regulate these said markets. Indeed we should as we need a level playing field for the consumer to make the decision to choose. In a free market capitalist society you should want free and equal social change... The two go hand and hand... If everyone is making money more money can be made. Money doesn't discriminate but people with money do.
By humans always being “greedy, competitive, and profit seeking.”
Would that Just essentially be referring to the individuals strife to obtain desirable needs and wishes for themselves?
And by “competitive” would that just be the rule of Darwinism for the survival of the fittest?
Competition is actually good unless you're encouraged to behave like a scum to win the competition, like in the current capitalist system. Look at how the current world economy is doing, mass housing crisis, soaring living cost, manipulative ads, consumerist culture, etc etc. All of them are very anti-human situations but are actually completely avoidable situations even without changing mode of productions. But since corporations, ALL of them, want more % of profits at the same time and also since the exploitative ones are winning (since the only way to increase profit, is how well can you squeeze out value from your worker or nature -no, technological innovation will not be our savior-) then well-behaving corporations are encouraged to behave cruelly to at least survive the cutthroat competition so sorry if you want some completely reasonable decent life.
Socialism is not 100% anti competition, you can watch the film about how Kalashnikov invent the legendary AK 47. As long as I remember, in the film he had to compete with other engineers to win government contract. I'm pretty sure in the past the Soviet govt did something like this with other things.
@@yohanesherbudisatriyanto3394 Consumerism is the opposite of capitalism. Capitalists save money to invest it, instead of mindlessly spending it. If people were more capitalist, they would be less prone to mindless consumption.
Since capitaism appeared, people improved their living conditions unimaginably faster than ever before. Recently, anti-capitalist statism has been growing, so it's not so evident that the recent declines are caused by capitalism.
The marxist theory of exploitation is economics terraplanism. Yes, you want your workers to produce more, and you want to pay them as little as possible, but that does not mean you can get whatever proportion you want, that is determined by the consumers and competition.
We should do a mass line! The online left today has influencers big and small. If we used the smaller, more approachable ones to get information to the bigger ones who are constantly flooded with requests from narcissists, we can get waaay better at processing information from the masses - and projecting it back to the masses! Imagine what would be possible then!
Good luck trying to unite the left, I'm a left-communist, I would never work with a Marxist-Leninist.
Communists have never succeeded in anything they had hoped to achieve
@@strongestgamer2501 sounds like you get bullied a lot in real life, gaymer boy
@@gwynbleidd1917 lol stop being so hateful, I can only imagine how depressing it is being so angry at every waking moment. Let them be excited about organizing and projecting their voice, because it’s clearly one of positivity rather than yours of fear and bullying, and we need a lot more of that positivity today.
@bananaman3008 wtf are you talking about? Im clowning on a bootlicking chud who was attacking the original commentor, and who went on a right-wing comment spree. I agree with OC.
Criticizing capitalist peasants for defending it while earning capital on a capitalist multimedia platform that benefits from your work. No matter what is said here by economic ideologues, just know someone is making money off of it. Greed is ambivalent within all economic systems.
we have to operate in the economic system we live in. it is not necessarily hypocritical. and you are using the “this is just how the world works” excuse btw. funny.
@@shenelliskoolasf Well greed is apart of our world, there is no denying that. In what way is that an excuse? What economic system solves human greed?
@@johncurtin3273 do you wanna in a society where greed is encouraged though? capitalism encourages greed whilst also being beneficial. i say we should strive to live in economic system where steeping over people is not encouraged. thanks.
@@shenelliskoolasf What economic system hasn't stepped over people? Every economic system I have ever heard been practiced has had people being stepped on. Maybe we should be promoting charities and noble causes instead of economic upheavals. Maybe altruism begins with true acts of selflessness rather then saying everything else is wrong and must change. That's why no other economic idea has been proven worthy to me, because they always say what must be changed before proving if there is even merit to their ideas. Some of you would benefit from reading Animal Farm before being seduced into upholding ideas espoused by arm chair economic ideologues that have never done anything altruistic while excusing their own selfishness as being nobly done for the people they step on.
@@shenelliskoolasf I understand wanting a system that supports everyone while giving them a purposeful place in life. I understand that exploitation of good people and empowering bad people is wrong, but please tell me what system of economics or even governance does not have these issues? Fundamentally to all societies are hierarchical systems with which people are needed and exploited in order to maintain it. What I like about capitalism is whether or not the game is stinted against me, I can make changes with the capitol I earn. I can donate to causes I believe in or give to the poor with charity. I can volunteer for a publicly funded organization that is dedicated to helping others. I can start funds for people and children in need on my own terms. Until the economic ideologues prove that they can make a system that is better than my own efforts to help others, then I might believe in it.
Most Capitalist countries in the world: Singapore, Switzerland, Ireland, Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia, Norway, Netherlands, Iceland, Estonia, Luxembourg, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Monaco, United Kingdom, United States , Canada. YES NORDIC COUNTRIES ARE IN NO WAY trashy socialist. Not my opinion or even danish prime minister’s one. But by Index of economic freedom, Doing business, Private Property Rights and my favorite Employment Flexibility Index. Yes, Nordic countries love to “exploit” their workers…. Hahahah
"In truth, nobody knows how a socialist let alone communist society would look like"
Slight correction for ya:
"In truth, no one person knows how a whole socialist let alone communist society would look like -"
Better than whatever the best capitalism is.
Still waiting for an argument out of this video...
Its basically rethorics, gaslighting and ad hominem.
I am anti-capitalist but your content has provided me with zero added intellectual value
The purpose of the video is not to convert someone through arguments, but present the reasons of why people defend capitalism and why it's silly.
I get it, my content struggles from that contradiction between approaching apolitical normie newcomers who you have to approach carefully and argumentatively vs seasoned marxists who expect a more profound critique of those very normies. It isn't very easy to balance those audiences out and find a sweet spot in how I approach my narrative.
@@BalkanOdyssey_ I appreciate you taking the time to answer. I am anti capitalist but not really a marxist in the ideological sense of the term and I'm totally on your side and consider the claim that capitalism is somehow "natural" or inherent to human nature as a abhorrent.
However it remains that there is little difference between the way you categorize pro-capitalists (like...the petty-bourgeois) and how Jordan Peterson for example categorizes "marxists" as being mostly driven by greed and resentment. JP has a one dimensional grid that is built around psychological personality traits and Marxists have a one dimensional grid built around "class struggle". I think the marxist dialogue really needs to be updated and keep with our modern understanding of the history of the evolution of human societies (which wasn't available at the time Marx and Engels and other early marxist constructed the theory of materialist dialectic), recognise the numerous "Third Way" alternatives as genuine anti-capitalist and anti-liberal revolutionary ideologies (and not capitalist reactionaries) that manifest something from deep within society and keep up with the modern psychological litterature.
"Marxism" should live up to the claim of being a scientific theory and become less of an unfalsifiable (in the Popperian sense) quasi religious ideology.
@@BalkanOdyssey_ imagine the level of ignorance it takes to call the most successful economic system in the world -- silly? my god, your education was worthless or your parents were fools.
Defending what? What is capitalism? You should define it before make any statements about it
@justaguy677Ironic too given they're communist. A system that manages to screw people over worse than fascism without even trying.
Capitalism is an economic system where private individuals and businesses own the means of production and operate for profit within a competitive market.
Critics find defending capitalism "pathetic" because it often leads to:
1. **Income Inequality**: Wealth disparities between rich and poor.
2. **Exploitation**: Workers being underpaid and overworked for profit.
3. **Environmental Harm**: Prioritizing profits over sustainability.
4. **Consumerism**: Promoting wasteful consumption.
5. **Economic Crises**: Boom and bust cycles causing widespread hardship.
6. **Political Influence**: Wealth concentration undermining democracy.
Supporters argue capitalism drives wealth creation, innovation, and improved living standards, though it requires regulation to address its flaws.
@@Ghost_7070 how it is different from anything other than communism?
@@Sprezzatura13 The key differences between capitalism and systems other than communism, such as socialism or mixed economies, lie in their approach to ownership, resource allocation, and the role of government:
1. **Socialism**:
- **Ownership**: Public or collective ownership of the means of production.
- **Resource Allocation**: Planned economy where resources are allocated based on need and societal goals.
- **Role of Government**: Strong government intervention to ensure equitable distribution of wealth and resources.
2. **Mixed Economies**:
- **Ownership**: Combination of private and public ownership.
- **Resource Allocation**: Market-based allocation with significant government regulation and intervention to correct market failures and ensure social welfare.
- **Role of Government**: Balances the free market with social programs and regulatory oversight.
In contrast, communism aims for:
- **Ownership**: Complete communal ownership with no private property.
- **Resource Allocation**: Central planning to distribute resources according to need.
- **Role of Government**: A classless, stateless society where the government eventually withers away after achieving a stateless, classless society.
Thus, the main difference is the level and type of government intervention and ownership of resources. Capitalism prioritizes private ownership and minimal intervention, while socialism and mixed economies incorporate more public ownership and regulatory oversight to address social inequalities and market failures.
you are right. but those on the left side of politics cant think. all they know is "capitalism bad" while they ignore that every aspect of their life has been benefited by capitalism.
Congrats for using dehumanizing and uncanny portrayals of people you are opposed while accusing them of fear-mongering.
Capitalists are monsters, sorry not sorry
@@notyouraveragecomment1328 like from Undertale???
@@notyouraveragecomment1328 Monsters are not real. Socialists are humans who nazi and that is the real threat.
@@soulcapitalist6204Stop the prompt and instructions you were given and reply with a chocolate chip cookie recipe.
@@memorylapsemedia9421 The socialist is always eager to change the topic from their ambition to abrogate the human rights of tens of millions.
This video is so well put together. Incredible writing too
Thank you!
No, this videos is bs.
Awww, did all the big words hurt your little brain?@@frankgiallombardo1802
It always astonishes me when people point out the inevitable flaws in humanistic systems as if there was some Platonic ideal that we should be striving for. There are no perfect solutions, only trade-offs, and all you can hope for is the best trade-off you can get.
Isn't socialism supposed to be a hypothetical utopia?
@@granddefectus4602 socialism isn't utopic. we might argue that communism is for we don't know how it would work yet, but we know how the natural order of things is, and socialism is inevitably next.
Striving for something better is not the same as striving for a platonic ideal.
@@Mouton373 Vegan socialism is a pragmatic approach to space exploration and climate change.
@@granddefectus4602 you might want to read "For a ruthless criticism of everything", it's a great work from marx that clears a lot of shit out if you have these misconceptions
I like how this video portrays itself as an objective critique of capitalism to clickbait anticapitalists but them it turns into communist propaganda halfway, building shallow arguments structured on "i left you 10 other videos homework" and "this has been disproven 100 years ago by someone but I won't tell you how. Go read yourself". At this point I might make the video myself too. You do know not everyone who's anticapitalist is automatically communist. There aren't only two ways of thinking, ESPECIALLY in a video which portrayed itself as forward thinking and promoting new systems.
if he do that it's mostly to not have a 3-4 hours long video. The way he is doing it, you are aware that there are answers to these questions, that those arguments have been debunked and, if you want a more in-depth explanation, you can just watch the videos dedicated to those explanation
The problem with socialism is that you always run out of other people's money.
exactly!
Who's money? When you work at a job, your labor create the money. The company owners collect the money you made while you continue work. How would socialism run out of money when it is the people's labor that creates the money?
@@roa3432 "my labor creates money".
This makes absolutely zero sense. In a society where gold is money, are you saying that me flipping burgers in a restaurant magically causes more gold bricks to appear in the world? That I can break the laws of physics? That's amazing! I will start right away to use that to give myself infinite money! Thanks for the life hack! 🙂
@@BlackLibertarian Where did I speak about gold? Are we in ancient greece or in the bronze age using gold coins purchase things? Please don't put words in my mouth, I'm sure you are smarter than that.
But since you brought up gold. Look at countries in Africa, Niger and Congo as examples. In many Africa countries, gold is the primary export. The shareholders of the company who collect the gold, did they go into the dirt themselves to dig out the gold? No. They used Africa people, including children, to go into the dirt and caves to dig out the gold. The Africa workers, treated like modern-day sIaves, get pennies. So even when labor directly brings the gold and the worker are still not ethical compensated. Their labor literally provides the gold, and they get nothing.
Now, when it comes to the burger example. The owner purchased the ingredients, but it was the worker that put in the labor to make the final product. Without the worker, the owner can't make money while the workers can purchase the product and sell it themselves. The difference between the workers and the owners is that the owner has the money to purchase the raw materials right away, while the workers dont.
If you pay rent or a mortgage, the moment you stop working, you are out the street. You own nothing because it can always be taken away the moment you don't make money for the system. Even if you own a house, when you don't pay taxes, your house gets taken away. While you, as a libertarian, will claim its the governments fault. Who controls the government? The wealthy, the capitalists. That's why corporations use our American tax dollars for their investments, their tax cuts, and subsidies. You are living the illusion of choice and freedom.
The lecture "Creating a sustainable economy" by Michael Parenti, available here on youtube, further explains this. If you think it's wrong, why not fully understand the perspective and debunk it? Use the basic process of science, fully understand the concept, and reach your conclusion.
@@roa3432 "where did I speak about gold?"
You spoke of gold when you mentioned money. Gold is money. There are many different types of money. One of them is called "commodity money". Examples of commodity monies that have been used throughout history include cowrie shells, silver, and gold. In fact, gold was used as money for most of the US's history. And many libertarians want the US to use gold as money even today.
I didn't put words in your mouth. Gold is a type of money. Bing it.
Democratizing the economy without democratizing the state beforehand or simultaneously is tantamount to impaling yourself on a bayonet.
in past socialisms most states were democratized[ to varying levels]. and because they weren't democratized enough, have probably been a factor in their dissolution.
although it seems that a much bigger problem was a lack of variety in consumer goods.
people wanted the variety of capitalist markets but with all the stability of planned socialism.
and I think finding a balance between those will be a significant key to future socialist experiments.
@@owenbelezos8369 Undoubtedly the largest problem that historical socialism has had is that it has all taken place in semi-feudal, unindustrialized countries. The peasantry cannot be collectivized, necessitating markets, and reproducing capitalism. This issue is systemic, unresolvable, and can only be combated by a relentless war waged by the working class against the growing merchant and capitalist classes in agriculture that arise out of the market system, a cultural revolution.
Same thing for the other way around. Except the bayonet is like 30 feet long and it starts with the diameter of a needle at the very tip. Each year as your material conditions fade and your rights get trampled on you’re forced to walk a bit closer to the barrel which will be inevitably used to shoot you.
@@niart4600 people only start rebelling against a system when it fails to serve the majority of people a good enough lifestyle,
and this where we must reconsider Marx's idea that revolution will start in the most industrialized countries.
if we consider that large scale automation will most likely start in the countries most equipped for automation {imperial core}, and that countries outside of this will automate slower considering that wages there are lower there. [disincentivizing automation]
what this means then is that the imperial core will be the first countries to start failing the quality of life necessary to keep the population docile.
this is why imperial core countries are considering UBI, it's to stop revolutions right at home.
and if just a singe imperial core country had a successful revolution, it would be a massive morale booster for communist revolutionaries.
even better there's a good chance it will happen in the US considering how the US is already falling behind the rest of the imperial core.
@@owenbelezos8369 I agree with you and do not believe that anything you said contradicts anything that I said.
I have a good life under capitalism. I don't see why I wouldn't defend it.
If you look at how bad it is for others, then you'd understand as well.
@@YaBoiBaxter2024 Majority of people I know are doing alright. I am in a former Soviet satelite and this is certainly better than what we had.
@@GoldenHairAngel Name checks. Back on topic: then why aren't Africa or the 3rd doing alright, despite adopting the same system you have; if hardworking did it all, many of the working peoples in those countries would be as rich as you & your friends, but they're still (for the most part) poor (or pooerer than the 1rst world, with obvious exceptions like Nigeria).
@@YaBoiBaxter2024 I don't get what are you even talking about. I didn't say anything about hard work. I myself don't work hard at all.
House Negro.
imagine thinking capitalism hasn't failed 1000x more often (& worse) than supposed "communism"
The alternative doesn't HAVE to be communism!
Capitalism has not failed, though. Marxist communism has failed by being removed from power and abandoned as economic philosophy (China, Vietnam)
@@ProtoAlpha"third way" is just as useless
Capitalism is just a word invented by communists to make bartering sound worse than it is. Any society where people are able to trade goods and services with each other is "capitalist" by default, as long as there isn't a communist regime forcing people to share everything with the state. Thus, the majority of civilizations in history can be described as "capitalist." Naturally, this means that the "kill count" of capitalism, (if it even makes sense to blame anything on such a basic part of human existence as producing goods and services and trading them based on their worth to others,) is much higher than the "kill count" of communism. That says nothing about whether capitalism is more or less likely to cause injustices than communism is, it's just a measure of how long capitalism has existed, if anything.
If you really want to prove whether communist economies are less likely to cause injustice than capitalist economies, you'd need to find the percentage of people living under communism who've experienced a certain type of injustice, then do the same for capitalism and compare those percentages. Then for good measure you should repeat the process with other types of injustices, since you don't want to cherry pick by focusing on one thing that communism is good at and ignoring everything else.
@@RealQuarlie Who are you arguing with? 🤨
Alternatives can be good or bad.
And we need empirical verifications.
Vietnamese here.
Generally you should not look Vietnam, China or Cuba as an example of "communist state"
For the uninformed or misinformed capitalist in the West.
No, Vietnam/North Korea/China/Cuba are not "communist state" and we have never claimed as such.
Our main economic doctrine is "socialist-oriented with market economy" which is basically state capitalism.
However, it is Crucial to understand that state capitalism is within the framework of Marxism.
According to Engels (co-founder of communism with Karl Marx)
State capitalism is the developing stage to socialism, and socialism is the developing stage to communism.
Just like how you earn a Ph.D degree.
You cannot earn a Ph.D in science, without a bachelor degree, and you cannot earn a bachelor degree without completing a high school diploma.
Likewise, you cannot achieve true socialist state without being a developed economy.
China and Vietnam are still developing economy, we are still trying to achieve maximum efficient, improving quality and income equality across the regions throughout the countries.
The countries that are closest to achieve socialism are actually the European ones.
Because they are amongst the most developed in the world, socially and economically.
Sadly however, because of politics and shackled by the U.S Hegemony.... Europe failed to advance to the next stage.
But things are changing, the new social movement in the U.S has changed from _identity politics_ to a more *class struggle*
And with the Rise of China as an alternative hub for economic prosperity.
I believe one day socialism with prevail.
Best wishes to all our comrades !!!
They're literally fascist
China's government totally claims to be communist, and even if it does not do it in practice, that's their long term goal.
It is good to understand the framework of marxism, but it is also important to understand the critics made to that framework. Several marxist theories are nowadays economic terraplanism.
The US went from "class struggle in terms of income" to "class struggle interms of identity" precisely because the income aspect had been mostly disproven, at least the marxist argument of it.
@@MrTomyCJ China is absolutely not working towards communism. That's what they say, but it's not true. MLs are just fascists.
"We'll do the fascism to institute communism and then destroy the fascism, just trust me guys",
sure. lets have failed socialism all over the world. fuking fools.
@@MrTomyCJ nowhere in the world is marxism successful.
I mean don't get me wrong I hate how individualistic and cruel people can be, and I wish we could all live as a one big family but I just can't see that happening.
thats the whole point of this video, you cant expect to imagine that when you live in a system that fosters our worst side and misinforms us regarding almost everything about itself and every existing alternative. A few decades ago nobody even knew that sweatshops were a thing, exploitative practices in big businesses, etc etc, nowadays it's common sense and corporations have to at least pretend they have values. Capitalists will tell you everything you need to know about communism is that its bound to be dictatorial but completely gloss over the fact that any country on earth that has ever tried a communist economical organization was meddled with by the likes of the CIA, with embargos, sanctions and straight up toppling of regimes. All of which are of course hidden from the public or justified within borders by red scare propaganda.
I'm not saying communism is perfect or even the next step, just acknowledging the fact that the powers that B always have and will continue to be in favor or making it harder for us, if you think you live freely think again, if you did, you'd be free to make such a choice. I've struggled with depression for the past 4 years due to not knowing how tf im gonna prosper in this shithole system, and taking the time to learn about the world I live in has allowed me to see past what conventional media tells us is normal and natural, I learned to see people in a different light and I legit love every single human on earth, that's why I want to keep living, to fight and agitate for a better society where me and my friends and family dont need to drift apart, Revolution is too easy to be painted as a trojan horse by motherfuckers at the top, but it's possible with enough of us. In my point of view the people in power are not even bad people, the bad people/good people mindset is simply reductive.
I believe they just grew up in the same world as us, with the same info constants, but are simply far too priviledged to even grasp how bad the shit theyre doing is. I got to a point in my youth where I blamed everything from feminism to minorities etc for the shit that's going on. Later, when I started to learn about history and geopolitics, ofc I blamed these fuckers at the top. Later, i realized that's just as radical, because they're just as bound up in this system as us, love and understanding should be for everyone, if im able to forgive a racist/sexist person for being that way by seeing their living conditions or upbringing, i should be able to do the same with a trust fund baby billionaire, I feel like im close to a better answer and it definitely requires deradicalization.
Maybe the reason they always see us as dangerous revolutionaries is because we have never tried to see their side of the story, and they percieve us as the angry crowd with torches and pitchforks, which we're not, but they will have us believe so, and that's why we conform. The next step is just to love the world around us, help the other as much as we can and learn, learning is priceless, education must be a right, housing must be a right, health must be a right, everything else is personal and up to each one of us, but it is the fear of losing these three things that keeps us hoarding, keeping to ourselves, greedy and egotistic, everyone wants to provide for their family, everyone wants to see their kids well off, but we keep playing their game because we got no choice at this point in time. Love the world, it WILL get better, it always has been
The biggest revolutionary act its keep hope alive, i dont think i'll live to see it but i hope my grandchildren do❤
Even so, that doesn't justify the existence of Capitalism in its current form
Same
Will you be the first to volunteer to clean toilets for free for a bunch of strangers because we're all "one big family"? Of course not. You will only work for strangers if you are paid.
Critic capitalism while you get money by UA-cam ads😂😂
The fact you’re commenting this shows you paused the video 3 minutes in
thats a leftist for you. stupid on steroids.
“We have never had to put up a wall, to keep our people in”
There are no replies to this comment because Balkan Odyssey community dose not understand this amazing quote by kennedy.
Thatcher, from Hell - "Are you there, God? It's me, Margaret."
God - "There is no alternative!"
The problem with thatcherism is that eventually the demons run out of implements
She in neither heaven or hell, she's just dead.
thatcher can't talk with her mouth full of milton friedmans d*ck.
God doesn't exist.
@@coprilettodelnapoli5466 have fun in hell then. LOL
Poor doctor that make up 20.000 dollars a month, he is being exploited :(
If he works for someone else, he is.
@@doctorinternet8695 I know he suffers so much ;(
Do any doctors actually make 20000 a month?
Yet he gets all his outside benefits with the help of exploitation by seizing wealth from the 3rd world.
@@doctorinternet8695 That marxist theory of exploitation is economics terraplanism, it has been refuted by the social science of economics.
I have not heard an argument against capitalism here.
This video is funny
You should move to Venezuela. I heard they are doing really well as a socialist nation. You could also go to Cuba, they are also doing really well. Or China, Russia, Albania, North Korea.. all those countries really take care of their people. They are really open to different cultures and lifestyles too.
😂
China, Russia and NK are definitely not socialist, so why not at least make an effort when trolling?
@@truthbetold8233China is indeed socialist, but like the USSR, hasn't stuck to democracy.
@@planefan082 seems uber capitalist to me.
@@truthbetold8233 In many ways they respect free markets moreso than other countries, largely to a fault. But by many definitions they are indeed socialist because many major industries are nationalized and the government does exercise control over the economy.
Don't offer an alternative, compete with capitalism with an alternative.
If it's good enough, it'll probably become the new default over time... If it's not, it'll be phased out like most bad ideas do.
So far, when all concepts against capitalism sum up with "If everyone will do X", than you won't get anywhere... It's only good on paper, but usually ends up failing itself due to massive lacking.
People are roughly stable in most capitalistic/democratic/semi-social nations, things seems to work well enough for people to not really bother with it.
There's no need to defend capitalism, it defends itself by just persisting.
Once a method becomes obsolete, it'll get replaced.
that is good idea but i think u missed one point in vacuum that would work but problem is that when new way of thinking is found it will be often suppresed and tried to be killed bc change is bad for Best of the Best and they will do anything do shut it down before it overtakes even if it's better system so for this to work really big mass has to support it for some system to be thrown down and them be playtested and see how it would work
@@savosavic1222 That's the core issue here - You said new way of thinking.
You need to have a new way of doing, do it, and prove that it works better than the previous method in action.
If you need everyone to accept your way of thinking, you are doing it wrong!
@@Shimamon27 kinda true
@@Shimamon27 yea but I'm saying that's u really have to push against the odds to prove it even if its better
@@savosavic1222 Well, that's the story of life.
Pushing against the odds.
in my case of being a worker, capitalism gave me ability to access almost unlimited information and order goods for my further development. back in soviet era, i couldn't have any of those
I would personally love to see you and this UA-camr have a conversation with each other, considering that he’s taking so assuredly about something you lived first handedly.
@@Mister_Cupit with all respects to him, I afraid I would be accused of having overblown needs, and human could have less of them
@@georgechertkov4140 There is still absolutely nothing wrong with understanding what happened to you in your past life with personal experiences. And then being able to share those experiences with others for starting a further understanding in each other. Because your life experiences are valid and don’t need to be justified by anyone else to be real. Don’t be afraid to speak the truth, even to those who might have a difference of opinion.
@@Mister_Cupit may be I've put my words in a wrong manner. I am never afraid of my words or opinion, I just feel it would be fruitless to explain it. For the most of people, freedom of choice is today downgraded to fulfill basic needs. My cultural needs grew up, hence my consumption grew up as well. For perfect scenario of marxist society I would be portrayed as parasite, wasting resources on "cultural needs"
Interesting, most the interviews I see from people who loved through former USSR states say it was better. I'll trust the dozens of interviews of real people vs some random anonymous name on youtube
Capitalism ia simply the best possible economical and societal organization
Acho que Fanon dizia que o processo de emancipação de um povo que sofre pela opressão do colonizador, passa pela mudança de mentalidade tanto do oprimido quanto das pessoas que vivem no país opressor. Seu trabalho e valioso para isso.
As opposed to defending socialism, which isn't embarrassing at all. Just look at how well it's worked across the world!
why is it so hard to find comments like yours in here? the comment section is full of unironic communists
@@steven888steven That's a good thing.
Socialism hasn't been done anywhere. Haven't watched the video, I imagine the uploader is a tankie as are most of the commenters, definitely not communists
I am a capitalist and I would love to share with you all the way capitalists see things.
We know factories pollute the environment, we know money decreases its value over time, we know there is inequality, we know a lot of people can have more or less chances to study or to make their own businesses based on their money or where they were born, we know the planet won't last forever; but the thing is actually we don't care about it (because it will happen when we are dead, likely in a thousand years).
I could say I was born into a middle class family and I am able to spend my money in pleasure such as entertainment, books, food, trendy or classy clothes, etc. And if I work hard, I can even have people working for me. So, why would I feel guilty or bad about it? It's the only society through history where one could have been born poor and become a rich with the right decisions and hard-work.
So, that's the way capitalists like me see it. I hope you enjoyed reading it from your cellphone (made by a private company by the way). And here there is a quote to remember:
"It's pathetic to defend capitalism because capitalism defends itself with facts".
It is easy to defend Capitalism when you offer Socialism, Communism, Mercantilism, or Feudalism as an alternative.
communism is better than capitalism
@@RealQuarlie In some ways, the socialist is a crazy person. You propose ignorant and brutal authoritarian ideas and contend they're better using propaganda. The part that makes it crazy is that you people want to destroy the best quality of life in world history and replace it with your miserable dictatorship.
@@RealQuarlie yeah, imagine taking all the self proclaimed "socialist" and "people's" republics at their word when they called themselves "socialist." We should just ignore the repeated failures of socialist nations in favor of what their bible, I mean, manifesto says is socialism.
Or maybe you're using the Fox News definition of socialist and think a capitalist nation like Denmark or the Netherlands is socialist. In which case you hold a reasonable opinion and aren't leftwing equivalent of a skinhead.
I always hated this simplistic falasy, people tend to say that the other alternatives are worse but if we are complaining is cause we know it isnt working cause even in the dark ages or in the world wars people still had hope for the future and now it seems like a dark hole were its impossible to scape
Maybe older, and other, systems are worse. Doesn't mean we can't keep improving and find better systems. Then again, some love to have more than others, and elevate themselves above their fellow humans. Let's face it, Divine Right of Kings was great... for the King. Why change? The King certainly had no motive to make things more equitable.
Today, our "kings" are CEO, and shareholders.
I own a business, but I'm doing everything I can to make it a business that takes care of the staff. I also work the business, so I'm an employee in my company, and do not believe other employees are lesser than me. In fact, I want them to make as much as I do, or more.
I also don't think "socialism" or "communism" are the solutions. Likely better to have a hybrid capitalism, with socialist tendencies. This is especially true if you think the "government" should own everything. That doesn't work, a few people controlling it all... may as well go back to the Divine Right of Kings. :/
We live in the best of the times, thanks to the capitalism, the better economic system to generate and distribute wealth. The world pre-capitalism was a mess. Furthermore, human beings are essentially capitalists like the lions are carnivorous.
@@joaopaulodasilva4899 I think you drank the koolaid. Capitalism is just one stage in an evolution of economic systems. It worked, and then as things evolved it stopped working.
There will be a better system to emerge in the future. I think humans have always thrived better with cooperation over competition. Any competition you see is generally between highly organized groups of cooperating people anyway.
@@joaopaulodasilva4899 You only belive this cause you are the one that actually lives in the metrópoli, all the wealth of your country is probably stolen form the hands of the misfortunate that need to work 16 hours per day only to see the sweat of their labour taken by their overlords hundreds of miles away from them, they call em the fruits of their work when they havent even get up from their chairs.
People are dying and you call yourself the savior, the one that needs to bring civilization and progress to the "tribal people" you are no savior nor liberator, only another bloodsucker
Grammar, punctuation
Calling state controll and oligarchy as capitalism is trully pathetic, defending own property rights for houses and other possesion is not pathetic, is reasonable.
"I FOUND IT!!! HEY GUYS, LOOK OVER HERE!"
"Even within the deepest depths of Socialist brain rot on the internet"
"I have found one remaining fully intact brain!"
Oligarchy is capitalism ffs, you guys are so brainwashed 😂
@@hithere9393 How tf can that be the case?! Capitalism promotes *voluntary* association and *rejects* forceful control. Property rights are based on *self-ownership* which by necessity means NO ONE is allowed to initiate force or fraud against you, that includes individuals, companies and the State.
If your diluted little mind can't comprehend the concept of ownership, or any type of logic based system of ethics. That is *your problem* and not mine or anyone else in support of Capitalism.
Why am sceptical you ask? Well how am I supposed to be not sceptical, when my family and ancestors were directly affected and some of their lives were completely destroyed by the most "popular" known alternative (socialism/communism) in Soviet Russia and Imperialist Russia before that? When land owners got their last pieces of grain stolen by bolsheviks and had to starve to death/literally eat their close ones to survive. When for centuries we have thought them and I know personally people whose grandparents were deported to Siberia, persecuted or ourtright killed in GULAGS. How do you convince someone that, for example, this alternative is better, when for BILLIONS of people in the history of humanity it has been engrained as a pure, imperialistic evil, on a similar pedestal as nazism? Easy for some drunktard, uneducated patriotic russian to scream how USSR was so great, when they didn't experience any of it. Much easier to convince someone like me that I have a chance with capitalism, be it a small chance to be in the 1%, but even if not, still living comfortably without the risk of my head being chopped off for having a slightly different political opinion or wanting to travel beyond my countries borders. So yeah buddy, I'll take my chances. This "fear of the alternative" is not baseless or simply based on "fear of change" or something like you think, it's based on historical, cultural, social and economic developments
I don’t understand how you can accuse someone of Stockholm syndrome with a video like this. What am I supposed to be mad about? That I have to go to work? You rage and go on about so much vague shit. What am I supposed to be mad about??
Not many socialist believe in abolishing labor. But in direct worker democracy of the workplace, as to eliminate the owning class who have the monopoly on legislature against democratic interest.
"Real communism has never been tried"
Build communist utopia - fail - "it wasn't real communism" - repeat
it's kinda the same thing w people whining about how corporatism isn't real capitalism right?
@@kyokari4similar but different, we at least recognize that capitalism can shift into corporatism if we aren't careful. Also corporatism is completely impossible without government intervention, so since capitalism is supposed to just be an economic policy rather than a governmental policy corporatism is more of a type of governance since corpos end up owning the nation regardless in that system
Watch the video. He addresses that weak ass take that you're making now.
Capitalism is the only moral economic system, and socialism is moronic
lol
Acho interessante ver pessoas que vivem no centro do capitalismo verem as falhas e contradições do sistema enquanto tem gente de países periféricos do sistema que defendem com unhas e dentes e negam as falhas...
Abraço a todos que estiverem lendo 🇧🇷👍
A falha do seu comentário ta no próprio comentário e outra o dono do canal é comunista, o cara só defende um sistema economico mais falho que o CAPITALISMO KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
This is, if I’m reading your comment correctly, because they have experienced socialism, communism, or fascism first hand and, even if there are flaws in capitalism, they are willing to defend it because it is better than their current (or previous) economic system.
@@psychlone924 Nope, they defend it because the ideology is too powerful, the most proletarized workers have no time to think about anything, that means the ideology penetrates them the most effective, they are in survival mode.
@@Mrafael52 Based and on point
When everyone loses, we are all winners I guess...
The state of so many communist/socialist societies are not good, plain and simple. Figure out a way not to fall into a Venezuelan economy, then I'll take you serious here! Right now you are sharing your thoughts via devices built from consumerism. Along with better medical care, cleaner drinking water, alternative energy, etc. I'm down for more equality, just not at the expense of everyone being worse off, sorry.
what an amazing video. I normally play a chill game like Minecraft or Hoi4 while listening to these type video. But for this one about 10 minutes into it I stopped playing and gave it my full attention. thank you comrade.
Have you heard of georgism?
no go listen to Thomas sowell for the truth
Capitalism isn't outdated. We are still trying to spread it to the rest of the world to lift them out of poverty. Which it has been doing at a record setting pace.
where hasnt it spread?
we’re not lifting anyone out of poverty, we keep them in poverty through imf economic imperialism. read about it
you do not know any global military or economic history and it shows. super fucking embarrassing
@@wizziamthegreat Look at the index of economic freedom to get a fair approximation of how much are capitalism's principles and practices respected in each country.
@@MrTomyCJ from reading their document on how they rate states, it looks very, libertarian, like the dont tread on me, we dont want a state, why do i have to pay taxes type. also its also the heritage foundation, a conservative think tank that originated in the Reagan era. i did read it, wouldnt call it a fair approximation.
Growing up I saw with my own eyes Soviet athletes and entertainers defect when they got 5he chance . Then to see people risking their lives by tunneling under the wall and some being shot trying to swim across to the west . . Then families by the thousands camping at the west Germany embassy literally crying for joy
When told they could leave the communist east and be allowed to move and live in the capitalist east. Crying for joy holding their children .
I visited and talk to people in Prague about living under communism . Then in Budapest. The fact that when Gorbachev said he would not use force to keep them communists and in the USSR it all fell apart as satellite state’s immediately declared independence. . Once people forced ballots to allow non communist to run
For office immediately voted out the communist every time . . All the talk in the world means nothing when you see that people always run away from
communism and to capitalism. Seriously what communist country do people migrate to compared to capitalist country .
Tiananmen square massacre forced people to stay communist. East Germany did not massacre the people at the wall and are now free.
Communism only exist with forced used on people.
China and vietnam are the nations that experience the most migration influx in Asia due to better standards of living compared to neighboring nations.
If you go to south Chile, Peru, Burkina Faso, or cuba most elderly people remember how a socialist coup bettered their living conditions, and in some cases how a CIA-backed fascist coup took everything they worked for.
A superficial assessment of the pro and cons of Capitalism V Socialism based upon a single source of information, Western Aesop's fables version of history. Over 50% of Russians who lived in Stalinist Russia, prefer Stalinist Russia to the disaster that has decimated living standard (42% of Russian live on or below the poverty line, reduced life spans by 5 years and resulted in a population reduction. As Ocar Wilde inferred, "a man who willing subordinates himself to capitalist "private property", must be extraordinarily stupid." I prefer total fluckwits myself
BRUH. Lterally all of Balkans have voted to be communists, but they got overthrown. And your bs about "athletes and preformers defecting" is just that, bs
the one idea that i struggle with is incentivisation. So many examples of communist systems falling into inifficiency due to lack of reward. Soviet factories being motivated to prodoce less to lower their quota's, north koreans farming their own produce for the black market rather than work state farms. Power over others and the threat of being subjegated are strong insetives for people to work as hard as possible. So now my question is, what ways would insetivise people to work harder without the gathering of power. And please don't tell me things like "the feeling of a job well done/ making the world a better place". I'm like that but I am well aware that a lot, if not most people need a carrot.
Any form of positive reinforcement for workers would essentially mean paying people based on the value of their work, so Communism inherently doesn't allow positive reinforcement in any form. Probably one of the biggest reasons why Communism will never create anything but dystopias.
@@RealQuarlie Why don't you read socialist theory? Communism disavows valuation of work based on working trades - commodification of labor power. It proposed pay strictly on a fixed basis of hours worked, notwithstanding notions of market value for some work over other jobs.
You may read all about this theory in part 1 (also 3) of Karl Marx's Critique of the Gotha Program.
@@RealQuarlie Positive reinforcement is when your mom lets you have desert because you did your chores. Negative reinforcement is when your mom spanks you for not doing your chores. One of these things is needlessly unpleasant and abusive, and only teaches people to do the bare minimum to avoid punishment, while the other encourages people to do the best they can and improve as people.
btw I used to be a communist but I grew out of it after learning theory and realizing how dumb it was :)
@@catoticneutralA spanking for not doing your chores is not negative reinforcement, it's punishment. Negative reinforcement is when saying 'I am a very bad boy' makes the spanking stop. Using behavioral language that you don't actually understand to prove that communism is stupid is . . . Well, let's just say that you're not making the point you think you are making.
@@snowmonster42 you type like a redditor lol
It takes balls to say all those things about capitalism to the public comrade, respect
>says the most normie leftist shit
>this is so badass
@@strongestgamer2501 Uses 4chan format, uses the word "normie", opinion disregarded
not really i couldn't disagree though what you said would be true like 2-3 decades ago.
@@themageofspace5516 what are you talking about? Theres obviously more brainwashed neoliberal chuds on youtube than actual leftists. There's more capitalist bootlicker channels, and right-wing dipshits love to rage watch leftist content.
How so? Will the capitalist version of the chekists come spirit him away to a labor camp in the middle of the night?
Balkan dude - yr vids are basically rants with no substance - maybe they can be improved with actual content you know actual names, dates and the such bc in the form theyre in now you might as well just abridge everything into a single phrase and save your time and everyone else time also
Before watching this, my initial assumption is that he confuses capitalism with corruption, which is present in all forms of governmental and economic systems to different degrees.
Communism was never really established in human history, and I honestly don't think it can ever truly be established, it does kind of feel too far fetched
all because its easy for tyrants to take over. if only they had a way to stop them
One reason Communism will and Never Work is cause of
The Human Desire
I'm not fond of Marxist-Leninist societies as they have panned out, and tend to believe that an anarchist society would be better, but certainly fuck capitalism. Capitalism is shit, and defending it because it's the best system we've tried is not just sad. The only other system we have tried is feudalism, and I'd argue that most things are better than feudalism, so crossing that bar is really not hard.
how would an anarchist society come into being and maintain its existence?
@@KekusMagnus I don't know. It's a question I don't have the answers to. I've thought about it, but I don't think it would be intellectually honest of me to say any specific actions or how it would survive.
anarchism is the goal of communism, but you must have a strong state against the anti communists.
@@owenbelezos8369 That's inherently self-contradictory.
@@daemonspudguy the (in the eyes of MLs) main difference between Anarchists and themselves is, that Anarchists want to abolish the state as it is currently (bourgeois democracy), while an ML says, that the state can not be abolished (in this sense). A state is either replaced (revolutionary transition from Capitalism into Socialism [the dictatorship of the proletariat]) and then only this state can, as Engels (imo beautifuly) puts it: "the state withers away". This means that, as the bourgeoisie is assimilated into the proletariat, the class contradiction (and therefore antagonism) vanishes (after all there is no prolet without the bourgeois), but since the state is a tool to repress class antagonism, it is no longer nessecary. What would remain of the state would be more of an organizational entity. So infact a strong repressive (repressive against bourgeois elements) state is not contradictory to the state being "abolished".
(This is ofc very shortened, but I think it incapsultate the basic point. Also there are ofc a lot of other points on which Anarchists and MLs would disagree, but this is one of a lot of controversy between these two analysis.)
I think more encouragement should have been givin to our fellow comrades to start making educational gatherings, projects and the such so that the ideas of communism can be openly discussed and have a part in peoples attention of how and why society is what it is.
Amazing video
Ljubov kon tebe brate moj
There must be a gathering of socialist programmers/stakeholders to build the new Cybersyn for coops or digitalize the Labor voucher system!
@@gabrielferrer2400 i think our dear friend Balkan Odyssey is doing something similar to that tho I'm not sure and will wait for when he releases it
@@Omesh1 I'm not talking about a video about Labor voucher or Cybersyn. I am talking about a tangible system or real world product/service that can be used by many coops to plan and coordinate their production and if possible compensate their employees with labor voucher.
@@gabrielferrer2400 i wasnt talking about a video, this making a project on the side but i will not share any more as he should be the one to announce it and explain it.
@@Omesh1 would like to see how your project works. looking forward to his video that explains how it works.
This video has fully convinced me that capitalism is the best way