I live right next to the small town where the MR73 is made in France: Saint Bonnet le Château. It really is a small town lost in the countryside! Happy to see you with this revolver ^^
@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 you can own this handgun after at least a year of shooting, a shooting licence, a prefectural authorisation of detention and a lot of other administrative shenanigans. Our gun laws suck.
@@SteamCrane Well in the video he always said an hostage head, it makes me laugh because as Sean, I understood he will try to shoot the hostage... it is a tactical move after all, once the hostage is dead, you can switch to minimi, MG42 or even 88 canon to finish the bad guy (almost sur Ian made a video on these 3... 88 I saw it ^^)
Yeah, so he touched on what seems to really distinguish this revolver from other high end revolvers. This is a legitimate heirloom piece. Handed down generation to generation. That is the level and standard of craftsmanship and durability. Legend has it that during testing for this revolver, they fired 175,000 full power .357 rounds through one and the testers quit before the revolver did. It is THAT durable. So not only are you are getting painstaking hand craftsmanship, accuracy and balance of a super high performance revolver, you are also getting unheard of durability/reliability. If you were looking for your one SHTF/post apocalyptic firearm, this might be it. You could literally go the rest of your life without ever needing to replace a single part. You could hand it down to your son or daughter and they could go their entire life never needing to replace a part. It's probably the ONE revolver I would ever consider spending that kind of scratch on. Vive la France!
When i was younger i went to an indoor shooting range near Paris, i was happily plonking away with a 22lr pistol when, in the booth next door, a military looking man pulled a Manhurin. I remember vividly the muzzle flash in the semi-darkness of the range and the noise was immense
@@octopussmasher2694 Yes, you can own handguns in France, but it is under strict regulation and safety. For example your guns and ammo have to be separated into two different safe authorised containers.
Now that Ian has the MR73 and the FR-F1, I kinda suspect that he might show up with those to the next Desert Brutality. Despite the obscene amount of $$$$$ that would be on the range, including the FAMAS.
@@ScottKenny1978 what I was getting at, is that Ian already had a legit 4" Gendarmarie MR73 long before he published this video, so I'm surprised we haven't seen it at a match yet.
fine review. seems like Beretta knows damn well who to lend their quality products to get some great advertisement to the right audience in the process
@@jeremymead8546 Beretta, however, is *not.* Not even remotely. Please observe how, *until* the Italians bought the firm, you had the merry devil of a time getting an MR73 in the States. Now, not so difficult (if you have the money). My point stands.
Or when it breaks. It do, a lot. The locking mekanism is the same as a colt python (veak) and it quality is typical french ( subpar). A few in my club here in sweden have one of thes and they had a lot of problem with then. Save your money and buy one Smith and one Ruger instead. Boy ammo for left over money.
@@sonnyforsberg9778 what revolver are you comparing a MR73 to that is allowings for such descriptors as "subpar"? And what experience with them do you have to make that claim?
@@sonnyforsberg9778 Actually The Colt Python was used for decades by Law Enforcement and competition shooters. It’s not as delicate as people say it is. I have seen plenty of Smith and Wesson revolvers go out of time. Does it make it a terrible revolver? The 2020 Colt Python is a completely different action from the original and has plenty of well documented issues. Stick with the original Python.
@@boostimalaka1 what I'd heard is that the Python had a change in production quality in ... I want to say 1967 or the 70s. Quality before then was excellent, quality after that was not.
Beretta: "Can you hurry up with those MR73's we've got a huge waiting li..." Manurhin: **DEATH STARES IN FRENCH** Beretta: "...or just ehh ...keep doing your thing. Carry on. As you were. Keep up the good work."
To be perfectly honest, I think Manurhin is right on this issue! Keeping quality to the same high makes the gun more interesting/valuable than if they did a rushed job. And given the price, people will expect something more than just the looks and name.
@@MrBandholm 100%. If they let corporate accountants have any say at all, they're done for. No one buys this gun thinking "I wish they could have made it a little faster and cheaper".
@@unclenunzie when a good company cheapens anything and slaps their name on it, it's a bad idea in the long run. If Beretta is smart, they'll keep the Manurhin name 'pure' and label the lower end guns Beretta or something else. Associating luxury and economy is a bad move. Example: BMW and their adopted half aborted abomination of a disgusting little person mover. And many more examples of legacy brands being bought to peddle cheap crap for a few years until people wise up and stop buying.
@@deejayimm except they still have the leverage to tell Beretta to piss up a rope because they're not going to cut corners. The extra stock was sold and it's still in demand so they're not filling shelves with product that doesn't move.
Now, Ian is an experienced and skilled shooter, I don't think anyone would disagree with that but he is by his own admission "not exactly special forces" but the performance here really does make you think what someone who trained with that gun, 150 rounds a day, everyday could do with it.
I haven't seen an american review of this firearm yet where they don't just ooze admiration for it's quality/reliability/shootability and respect for its history. The MR73 is like a Rodin.
you're joking right? French military indstry, is top notch... excellent weapons, and weapon platforms... (Rafale, Belharra, and Fremm co production) americans, to this day, have not made anything better than "magic" air to air misssss.
Apparently the next Desert Brutality is going to be a 3-gun match: pistol, rifle, and precision rifle. Ian's kinda tempted to bring the FAMAS and FR-F1.
Props to Beretta for refusing to compromise on the quality of these to meet demand. That's respectable. Awesome video, Ian. I've always really liked this particular gun, it's super cool.
@@Grumpyin If the product is as good of quality as it appears to be, 3.3k seems about right. There's the old saw of 'you get what you pay for', and 100k Round lifetime and that level of fit/finish isn't cheap to get. Mirror finish that good is a lot of time post machining with grinders and hand abrasives if watching Clickspring has taught me anything. And you are paying for the builders time and skills, not just the build materials
@@Grumpyin It's a match-grade revolver made for a French quasi-SWAT outfit with a 100K round warranty imported from France. With quality assurance and build, labor cost, and import taxes, you can do the math...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Not just SWAT, the bigger and badder SWAT. US SWAT wish they could be as badass as these dudes and their equivalency is probably closer to Delta Force than SWAT. but yes, 3.3k for a 100k round rated, basically sniper revolver? honestly the right price.
@@Grumpyin As well as the hand fitting other people have mentioned the BOTR (actually Chap[1] OTR) video shows the trigger system... One part that in a normal gun is just a transfer bar with plain sliding and bearing surfaces uses a component four wheels running on a precision ground rail system and a roller bearing surface for the spring. That complexity takes extra time and effort to manufacture, and extra rejected frames because if you get that precision ground rail in the frame wrong that's a frame junked. Gives you near-constant trigger pressure all the way through the pull, in Double Action, though. And that is just one, admittedly key, part. [1] Chap is Blokes tame Frenchman, raised in England, living in Switzerland.
The reliability issue adds up when you look at the state of pistol ammunition at the time. It's not at all like the state of handgun defensive ammo today, where pretty much everything in what a US police department would consider a "service caliber" performs about the same with the top tier of mass production defensive ammo, and they tend to feed quite reliably through almost any off the shelf handgun that isn't garbage tier. It's hard to relate just how different the situation is today versus the 1970s, when semiauto JHPs tended towards either gimmick rounds, rounds that were basically FMJs with a tiny hole that didn't reliably expand, or rounds that had cavities large enough to present feeding problems... along with most semiauto guns only being set up for feeding FMJ (and gunsmiths could make a decent living doing nothing more than feed reliability packages on common handgun designs). If you don't have highly reliable, excellent terminal performance JHPs in your typical semiauto pistol calibers, going with a .357 Magnum revolver goes a long way towards giving you noticeably better terminal effects. Even a SWC full house .357 Magnum would be an improvement over a round nosed jacketed 9mm that didn't expand (whether or not it had a cavity), and the revolver was perfectly fine with a SJHP that looked like a shot glass. In the 1970s, revolvers were very much the best handgun for the job, and .357 was pretty much the best commonly available caliber.
I remember reading of one police officer - the name escapes me now - who had been involved in multiple gunfights, maybe around the 80's, with a revolver. I remember reading that at the time he was carrying wadcutters loaded backwards into the cartridges with either .38 +P or .357 loads and considered them one of the most effective options for terminal performance at the time.
@@AdNoctemMedia It's not a bad load, although these days there are far better ones available off the shelf without even looking hard. I even knew old cops who swore by backwards loaded wadcutters in .38 Special cases with *really* hot powder charges, that they only used for "carry" ammo, as a steady diet of that for practice would wear out a Model 10 in rather short order.
@@MW-bi1pi *All* guns will malfunction eventually. *Some* are more prone to it than others. Glocks are relatively bombproof with anything other than gimmick ammo or bottom shelf trash (and even then, they're generally pretty reliable). But, like even a Kalashnikov firing milspec ammo, eveb a Glock with malfunction. A S&W 41 with appropriate ammo is pretty bombproof, if you clean and lubricate it every so often. But, even then, I had a Model 41 malfunction on me while on my brigade pistol team in 1990 or 1991 (we did a lot of practice with the Model 41s, because of a shortage of .45ACP, due to the Gulf War happening). Heck, I've had S&W *revolvers* malfunction - not often, but it's happened to me.
Yep. Carried a S&W 686 for 13 years. On duty ammo was 158 gr full power. 357 Semi Jacketed Hollow Points. I bought my own practice/qualification rounds. Same as my duty rounds. I now have a GP 100 six inch that is a dream to shoot. Looking to get the M73 when a court settlement comes in.
In 1994 the gign enter in a plane with 4 terrorists with AKs and more than 200 hostages, some of the members had an mr73, that's how much they trusted this gun, they killed the 4 terrorists whithout any hostages or gign members killed in this assault This is a legendary weapon
On their flight out, the team was transported in the same model plane that had been hijacked. They spent the entire flight drilling and taking practice runs through the plane to prepare for the actual intervention when they arrived.
I knew someone who was on the plane. Poor bugger was coming back from a visit to his family in Algeria. After the assault all the French passengers were seen by psychologists and counselors, the Algerians were just sent home. He didn't stop shaking for weeks.
"4 out of 5. I'm not exactly special forces myself." No, you are Gun Jesus. And Gun Jesus WOULD intentionally miss a shot to make those special forces guys feel adequate.
I began my police career carrying the Smith Model 19 4 inch blue. They were a great revolver, but as was tradition back then we trained with .38 special wadcutters and carried full blown .357 Magnum. At my behest, we began to use some .357 ammo during our qualification course. I told the trainers and our Chief that having taken my pistol to the range on my own, I found that the 2 rounds were quite different and felt that at a bare minimum we should begin our qualification using the ammo that we had on board in our drop boxes and guns. This was, we insured that all officers actually had fairly fresh ammo in their revolvers on on their belt (those dump boxes sucked!) When we went to the new system, we all discovered that our scores suffered as the recoil of the magnum over those light loaded wadcutters was quite a difference, several officers actually developed flinches when full house magnums were fired. Instead of going back to the old ways, the boss thought we should all train with full house magnums, and use them in the full qualifications. Things changed greatly when the semi-auto became king and such problems were solved by their adoption.
Yup.....target range wadcutters vs. ++P carry/duty rounds. Kick is different, and muzzle flip/target reacquistion can be an issue.... Train with what you are gonna be using.... (If you "roll" your own, less expensive--but worth it)
Friend of mine has an S&W Airweight in .44mag for his hunting backup piece (the "oh, shit! Bear!!!" gun). Has the Hogue grips on it, they're good for the 240gr loads. I'd shoot most of a box of 240s, it was not unpleasant at all. But holy shit those 300gr loads! I put *one* downrange and gave the gun back. Had an instant bruise all the way through the web of my thumb!
I don't think the revolver will ever be completely out of military use, as there are situations where revolvers have major advantages over autos: precision sniper work, or as in use by the Vietnam Tunnel Rats who preferred the S&W Model 10 or S&W Model 1917 over the 1911.
Ever watched Billy Jack? Bad guy: drop it or I'll blow her head off. B J: go ahead. B G: you'd kill her, just like that? B J: No, YOU'LL kill her; and then I'll kill YOU...just like that. Yeah, it's a movie. But....
2:32 "Let's just go straight into the deep end and see if I can hit the hostage head" Most people would just shoot the hostage taker but I like how Ian thinks outside of the box.
@@joelmclamore1139 you my friends are stupid deer don't just stand there and let you shoot at them all the time most of the time they are running even when you ant shooting at them
@@tobyhorn9641 Tell that to the deer that ruin my old ladies garden all the time and just stare at her between bites when she is ranting under her breath and giving them a stare of hate on the back porch 10 feet away from them. Also If all the deer you hunt run away you are not doing it right, best work on that sneak skill.
I don't know depends on a number of factors regarding what restrictions are in effect applying to what and where you are hunting. You have to consider what the current local goals are with regards to game population control and management where you are hunting, what seasonal restrictions on harvest are in effect where you are hunting, or even what city/county/state jurisdictional restrictions on calibers and method of take you have to comply with where your are hunting. Not to mention despite 357 Magnum being regarded as a relatively high caliber as far as service cartridges are concerned it's controversial to say the least as a sporting cartridge for hunting; though it is certainly used for that. With all that said you are more likely to need more then one shot with a gun like this then almost any center fire rifle including pistol caliber carbines that chamber the same cartridge.
While working at one of the largest gun stores in Phoenix AZ, Shooter’s World, I could shoot during breaks sometimes. We had 26 indoor shooting lanes. One of the range guys, who noticed that I was habitually thumbing back the hammer on a DA S&W .357 revolver, told me to try double action, saying that you’re actually more accurate shooting DA, because when you thumb back the hammer, you tend to anticipate the gun firing and even minutely flinch. I found that, indeed, with a smooth double action trigger pull, I was more accurate! 😁
I would say the Ruger GP 100 or the 357 Mag Redhawk are as strong or even stronger than the MR73. However, the Ruger actions out of the box will not be even remotely near as good as the MR73. With gun smith work on the GP 100 / Redhawk I'd say the DA trigger can reasonably approach the MR 73. But that ball bearing trigger return on the MR 73 cannot be equaled even at best gun smith work on the GP 100 / Redhawk. Bloke On The Range(BOTR) did a SUPERB job of explaining the MR 73 mechanics. Thanks for the reference to BOTR. Really GREAT that you guys reference and support each other.
I remember seeing photos of the GIGN operatives carrying this revolver as their primary handgun option and also carrying a semiautomatic service pistol.
I’m not really a revolver guy but if I was going to buy one, this would be it. From the standpoint of military reliability and durability, this gun is top notch. It’s actually affordable. This is a one and done purchase. Pay your money one time and you’ll never be sorry you did. No upgrades. No modifications. This is an heirloom revolver. High quality for actual shooting and use. I’d buy this over a Korth revolver any day.
That *is* my dream 357 Magnum revolver. I think it is the one revolver (or any handgun for that matter) that I wouldn't be tempted to modify in some way from out of the box.
Years ago I asked a gunsmith how to "tame" the bucking of a 357. His reply was "There is a new process called Magnaporting." Had it done to my Ruger Security Six Stainless with a 6" barrel and absolutely love it. God forbid I ever need to use it for anything other than targets, but If I do, I know I stand a far better chance of accuracy with it than my S&W 40.
I've recently done a ton of revolver shooting, and I'm left handed/left eyed. When reloading from a 2h grip, I transfer the grip to my right hand while operating the cylinder catch and popping the cylinder out with my right hand. I operate the ejector with my left hand, then drop a new speed loader in with my left hand. I then close the cylinder, and transfer the revolver back to my left hand.
I'm a left handed shooter the rugers latch is easier to use I can hit the cylinder release with my trigger finger but I do wish there was a new top break
I have Chapuis Elan 470 Nitro, they are top notch quality! Chapuis maybe the most underrated firearms manufacturer their is when it comes to double rifles!
I hope this lasts throughout the years; I had a S&W Model 27 from the Bangor Punta days in the early 1970's and I shot it alot. It did not last me many years; the top strap over the forcing cone of the barrel stretched to the point of ruination. Seen Chap's testing of this revolver on Bloke on the Range just this last week; very nice video.
I really like that you gave a shout out to Bloke & Chap, just watched that trigger video last night and it was done very well. It's like you, Karl, Othais, Bloke & Chap are forming your own shared video community based on history and science, rather than. "Ah dude look how cool this gun is, watch me shoot a bunch of garbage with it and complain about politics", like every other gun channel.
I had the same sentiment. The python has reigned supreme for so many years, people take its exceptionalism for granted without taking an objective look at something as well made as this.
I've had four Pythons in my life and they were good but fragile.I sold them all and bought the Korth and never looked back.The Manurhin,Korth and Janz are the top three(imho).
Not being able to find .357 for less than 50 dollars a box has spurred me to get started on my reloading set up. I finally was able to find Primers at a reasonable price so I am good to go.
I had found some at $36 for 20 cartridges a few months ago. $50 per 20 is crazy! It is wonderful that you are able to reload instead of dealing with the wild prices.
Love your channel. Old video, but, I loved how you apologized for your rustiness before you got started shooting. Man, I think I'm speaking for everyone: you could be shooting it in the air, we're all jealous just watching you hold it.
If i could only have 1 handgun round it would be incredibly hard to pick between 9mm or a .357 mag. .357 is possibly one of the best cartridges ever made
I went through Basic Law Enforcement Training back in 1994/5. About half of my class used revolvers, I used a Ruger P85 9mm and several others used Glocks in 40 S&W or 9mm, and these were all very reliable. There was even a couple of guys from a department that used 1911s and only had a few malfs. However, a few folks from one department carried newly purchased S&W 5906s; and they were hated! They constantly malfunctioned in one way or another. In fact the S&Ws ended up being sent to a gunsmith to fix the problems and the Trainees finished their range training with wheel guns. So even in the mid to early 90s the semi-auto, for law enforcement use, could still be hit or miss. I know the S&W M&P series is very reliable now but I will not buy one because S&W seems to want to engrave/roll stamp the entire manual on the frame and slide.
A revolver does make tactical sense in some situations, chiefly when you're in a position where close proximity could interfere with the operating cycle of a semi-auto (slide impacting on the pointman's shield, for example). Smith and Wesson developed the M&P R8 variant of their Model 327 with that in mind.
@RaderizDorret PLUS a revolver is superbly accurate compared to an auto pistol, especially when shots have to be taken at 100 yards or more. Tactically there are scenarios where a revolver definitely still has Law Enforcement / Military applications.
@@khaelamensha3624 Exactly. I'm a big fan of the 9mm service pistol, but for a more concealable gun, I went with a Smith and Wesson Model 642 specifically because revolvers are just more reliable in guns that small while maintaining good performance for the intended role of a deep concealment gun. Revolvers are still plenty relevant for many niche roles, in my opinion.
The French GIGN uses this Manhurin MR73 revolver for decades in the most difficult of counterterror operations/hostage rescues. I think this revolver is the finest revolver in the world. The French GIGN has a long history of excellence using this revolver in security situations. I think there is some wisdom here.
Hello guys !! I had the opportunity to shoot with a lot of revolver in .357 (S&W performance center, my Python, Ruger, etc.) I must say that the MR73 is the best i ever shot: smooth double action, accuracy, reliability .. You probably guessed that I am French, but I have weapons of different countries, and I hope to be relatively neutral in my appreciations. nevertheless, the MR73 seems to me to be one of the best revolvers in the world. Rather expensive also in France, but not much than an S&W PC or a Colt Python. Greetings from France to everyone in the U.S. .. P.S. 1: I'm in love with my S&W 34-2 (22LR) P.S. 2: The MR 73 was manufactured also in 32 S&W long (MR32) and .38sp (MR38) for sport shooting (single action only) plus a rare .22 LR. P.S. 3: to Ian. Do you ever heard of the "Mickey's head" in the FAMAS ? P.S. 4: to Ian once more .. Forgotten weapons .. My favorite channel about firearms .. Great job !!
I was like "oh, id like one of those. Ive wanted a full size .357, id pay like $1,500 for one." MSRP is $3,300. GIGN must've done half their budget just on these pistols.
and ammunition, I read a book wrotten by a member of the GIGN and the cartridge had to be manually made and cost 1 dollar a piece in the 70's... multiply by 150 for more than 50 guys....
Ian you should do a crowdfund to acquire and document the Anderson Mk VII. Anderson bought the design papers from the war office for a modern Webley revolver. They've apparently worked out the issues for a .357 top-break revolver.
I really want to see Karl try one of these. Maybe you two could make one of those 20 minute comparison videos like you used to. Compare it against a semi auto from the time period or heck, even a modern pistol. It would be cool to compare it against a Guncrafter Industries .50 GI 1911. But I’m just rambling at this point.
I'm sure he would like it. Hickock 45 would also like it. I think I seen Hickock 45 do a video on this kind of revolver. Neither are going to tell you its the best thing out there. Its no better than a few dozen that are out there. When you factor in the cost they want for it, it falls to the wayside.
@@tcjohnson3437 Hicko45 loves American revolvers.. Maybe for MR73 he could make a break from the rule... i would be surprised if he made a video about manhurin
@@tcjohnson3437 I don't think he wants to be in the position by trying MR73 to have to reluctantly admit that it's probably One of the best revolvers in 357 magnums ever built, it is also not of American production... I don't think he could accept it, so I don't think he'll ever make a video about this European revolver. I don't even think Mickulek could do it being a testimonial for Smith &Wesson
9:20 Not sacrificing quality for quantity and getting on a waiting list is a good thing. 6 months to get one and if the quality is as advertised then it's more than worth it. Waiting lists for hand crafted items are not a deterrent to purchase but makes the idea of purchase more desirable regardless of what the product is. If people wait 6 months and get trash the company would be out of business the first year due to orders being canceled.
@William Mulvaney You should be target shooting, (Bullseye works for Revolvers, get some Bowling Pins, a kettelbell, and a clock.) So you learn to hit the broadside of a barn with a shotgun. Patterning the shotgun, too. That's how you get better at shooting stuff. I'd say you shouldn't be Carrying. (Bowling pin is the most accessible practical handgun practice, short of Practical Handgun competition, like 2 gun. The Kasarda Drill is another one you can do at home, on the Range. Assuming you have a Range at Home. That Manhurin will chew up, and spit out my "Soup Can" wadcutters: 230 grains, loaded to the same Muzzle Energy as .45 Military Ball.)
@William Mulvaney Okay? Who mentioned spray, and pray with Autos, though? I know what Suppression fire is, but we're talking about Revolvers, and I might have mentioned a Shotgun. So, I guess thanks for mentioning Police spraying the crowd with Automatics? Yeah, Riot "Suppression" but hopefully, they're not shooting .45 military Ball. That kind of "Suppressive Fire" kinda went out with Prohibition in the 20s.
@William Mulvaney Oh, okay. That's a really long discussion which can't really be covered in the comments. Short answer is the Military/Industrial Complex. The same companies (Colt, and Winchester) wanted to sell guns to the Police, and other civilian organizations. (However, this also happened in other countries, which arm their police with guns.)
Possibly the best revolver I ever saw! Too bad this particular gun didn't come with a 9mm wheel. Chap from Bloke on the Range has one as well. His came with a 9mm wheel, which should make it easier to find ammo.
Well, I might mention that both colt and Smith fielded military/police revolvers back before WW1. Many of those are still serving as designed. We, have been fortunate to have had a very well designed Auto pistol, taking over many roles that otherwise would have been pushing more revolver designs...possibly. Our gun industry in a free country, continued to design and make a plethora of models. Being a free society we were blessed with many beautiful, polished models to choose from.
2:36 I am not suer Ian has understood how police work works.. but maybe that is just a cultural difference between the US and europe: "Let´s see if I can hit the hostage head"
I think there's a translation error here. The bad guy is the flipper that Ian was shooting, the hostage is the steel in front. The target type is usually called a hostage flipper.
Ian has gone missing after this episode, he was last seen buying 357 magnum ammo, a scope, and a bipod
No worries, he'll be on the French News shortly!
Interestingly he'll never be seen on the French border.
probably just taking some time off to hunt legionaires in Nevada desert.
@@mattilaakso6834 We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that!
ono
I live right next to the small town where the MR73 is made in France: Saint Bonnet le Château. It really is a small town lost in the countryside!
Happy to see you with this revolver ^^
Love the French people, from Los Angeles.
What are gun laws in France like? Can you own this pistol for example? Will have to see what "expensive" means to Ian.
@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 you can own this handgun after at least a year of shooting, a shooting licence, a prefectural authorisation of detention and a lot of other administrative shenanigans. Our gun laws suck.
Greetings Frenchman, my grandmother was from Angouleme.
This was a surprisingly pleasant conversation to read on UA-cam.
"Let's see if I can hit the hostage head"...I think Ian does not have a promising future in the GIGN.
If there's no hostage, there's no hostage situation.
@@G1NZOU you sir are a genius 😂😂
"hostage taker's head". Common scenario, bad guy shielding behind hostage. Ian did well, all hostages survived, hostage takers eliminated.
@@SteamCrane Well in the video he always said an hostage head, it makes me laugh because as Sean, I understood he will try to shoot the hostage... it is a tactical move after all, once the hostage is dead, you can switch to minimi, MG42 or even 88 canon to finish the bad guy (almost sur Ian made a video on these 3... 88 I saw it ^^)
@@SteamCrane He said he was going to shoot the hostage...OOPS!
How refreshing that a manufacturer puts quality over increased sales.
Well when they are backed by military contracts it helps, poor Mateba just couldn't sell their greatly manufactured products.
I agree: HK and Colt were doing much better when they were backed by the taxpayers!
They obviously appreciate how long it took them to get their reputation and how quickly it could be trashed if they lower the standards.
I don't think the GIGN would appreciate the revolver's quality being compromised
@@alexfortin7209 HK is “backed” by US tax payers now, more than ever.
Yeah, so he touched on what seems to really distinguish this revolver from other high end revolvers. This is a legitimate heirloom piece. Handed down generation to generation. That is the level and standard of craftsmanship and durability. Legend has it that during testing for this revolver, they fired 175,000 full power .357 rounds through one and the testers quit before the revolver did. It is THAT durable. So not only are you are getting painstaking hand craftsmanship, accuracy and balance of a super high performance revolver, you are also getting unheard of durability/reliability.
If you were looking for your one SHTF/post apocalyptic firearm, this might be it. You could literally go the rest of your life without ever needing to replace a single part. You could hand it down to your son or daughter and they could go their entire life never needing to replace a part. It's probably the ONE revolver I would ever consider spending that kind of scratch on. Vive la France!
If rick grimes was french lol.
When i was younger i went to an indoor shooting range near Paris, i was happily plonking away with a 22lr pistol when, in the booth next door, a military looking man pulled a Manhurin. I remember vividly the muzzle flash in the semi-darkness of the range and the noise was immense
357 in an enclosed space is quite deafening.
@@redram5150 even with ear protection it was awesome
I didn’t know you could own handguns in France good for you guys 👍
@@octopussmasher2694 and we are also permitted to drive horse drawn carriages! So we may carry our croissants and wine home!
@@octopussmasher2694 Yes, you can own handguns in France, but it is under strict regulation and safety. For example your guns and ammo have to be separated into two different safe authorised containers.
the real questions here are "why haven't we seen a Manhurin in a Brutality match yet, and when will we see Ian running a GIGN setup?"
Now that Ian has the MR73 and the FR-F1, I kinda suspect that he might show up with those to the next Desert Brutality. Despite the obscene amount of $$$$$ that would be on the range, including the FAMAS.
@@ScottKenny1978 he doesn't own this gun, its a review gun, he has to give it back at some point I think
@@ScottKenny1978 what I was getting at, is that Ian already had a legit 4" Gendarmarie MR73 long before he published this video, so I'm surprised we haven't seen it at a match yet.
@@colbunkmust huh, didn't know that.
@@AsbestosMuffins I was assuming that Beretta would let him keep it through Desert Brutality.
fine review.
seems like Beretta knows damn well who to lend their quality products to get some great advertisement to the right audience in the process
Say what you will about Italy, they know how to market fine firearms.
@@lairdcummings9092 *Breda 30 sweats nervously*
@@lairdcummings9092 it's French.
@@jeremymead8546 not anymore. The design was by Manurhin a French gun maker but now it is owned by Beretta who are Italian
@@jeremymead8546 Beretta, however, is *not.*
Not even remotely.
Please observe how, *until* the Italians bought the firm, you had the merry devil of a time getting an MR73 in the States.
Now, not so difficult (if you have the money).
My point stands.
We need to rate guns according to whether or not they can make Ian do that goofy giggle.
For instance. Manurhin MR73 is Ian Giggle Approved !!
100%
My favourite one was when he shot that little Mexican machine pistol
I second the Giggle Approved level of quality.
Can't beat the M14 martial arts "Hwaah" he did
@@warriorwolf77 That's for the "operator level".
The only time an MR73 goes back to the factory is to visit its folks, or when Beretta sends it's recovery team to get the loaner back from Ian.
Or when it breaks. It do, a lot. The locking mekanism is the same as a colt python (veak) and it quality is typical french ( subpar). A few in my club here in sweden have one of thes and they had a lot of problem with then. Save your money and buy one Smith and one Ruger instead. Boy ammo for left over money.
@@sonnyforsberg9778 what revolver are you comparing a MR73 to that is allowings for such descriptors as "subpar"?
And what experience with them do you have to make that claim?
@@sonnyforsberg9778 Actually The Colt Python was used for decades by Law Enforcement and competition shooters. It’s not as delicate as people say it is. I have seen plenty of Smith and Wesson revolvers go out of time. Does it make it a terrible revolver?
The 2020 Colt Python is a completely different action from the original and has plenty of well documented issues. Stick with the original Python.
@@boostimalaka1 what I'd heard is that the Python had a change in production quality in ... I want to say 1967 or the 70s. Quality before then was excellent, quality after that was not.
@@DH-xw6jp if you read what i whrote, i have seen it first hand on persons in my club have problems whith them. Have you seen one IRL?
Beretta: "Can you hurry up with those MR73's we've got a huge waiting li..."
Manurhin: **DEATH STARES IN FRENCH**
Beretta: "...or just ehh ...keep doing your thing. Carry on. As you were. Keep up the good work."
To be perfectly honest, I think Manurhin is right on this issue!
Keeping quality to the same high makes the gun more interesting/valuable than if they did a rushed job. And given the price, people will expect something more than just the looks and name.
@@MrBandholm 100%. If they let corporate accountants have any say at all, they're done for. No one buys this gun thinking "I wish they could have made it a little faster and cheaper".
They really have no reason to lower quality since there's already a cheaper Manurhin revolver: the MR88.
@@unclenunzie when a good company cheapens anything and slaps their name on it, it's a bad idea in the long run. If Beretta is smart, they'll keep the Manurhin name 'pure' and label the lower end guns Beretta or something else. Associating luxury and economy is a bad move. Example: BMW and their adopted half aborted abomination of a disgusting little person mover. And many more examples of legacy brands being bought to peddle cheap crap for a few years until people wise up and stop buying.
@@deejayimm except they still have the leverage to tell Beretta to piss up a rope because they're not going to cut corners. The extra stock was sold and it's still in demand so they're not filling shelves with product that doesn't move.
“Shiny.”
I’m sure Captain Reynolds would carry one of these if he could.
I’ll be in my bunk.
Did something just fly off my gorram ship!?
With one of those you could be a Big Damn Hero.
One of the best weapon choices in the verse
Such an underrated gem that series.
I've actually held one of those, our teacher at the gun club had one which he cherished very much. I can definitely see why.
Now, Ian is an experienced and skilled shooter, I don't think anyone would disagree with that but he is by his own admission "not exactly special forces" but the performance here really does make you think what someone who trained with that gun, 150 rounds a day, everyday could do with it.
Two words for you: Jerry Miculek.
As a french, i'm proud that we made something badass and put it to the us.
Nice video Ian, like always 😁
In general, french manufacturing is of extreme high quality, so it has to be expensive.
You French have always made really nice weapons!
I haven't seen an american review of this firearm yet where they don't just ooze admiration for it's quality/reliability/shootability and respect for its history. The MR73 is like a Rodin.
@@DriveCarToBar ahhh, i see.
you're joking right? French military indstry, is top notch... excellent weapons, and weapon platforms... (Rafale, Belharra, and Fremm co production) americans, to this day, have not made anything better than "magic" air to air misssss.
Should do a two gun match with that and the FAMAS
Or this and FR-F1 Djibouti hostage rescue style.
Apparently the next Desert Brutality is going to be a 3-gun match: pistol, rifle, and precision rifle.
Ian's kinda tempted to bring the FAMAS and FR-F1.
@@ScottKenny1978 He'll bring a long barrel MR73 with the scope and bipod as his pistol *and* precision rifle.
@@scribejay that would be highly cool!
Just depends on how long those precision rifle shots are.
Add a PGM Ultima Ratio and I will pay to see it !
Props to Beretta for refusing to compromise on the quality of these to meet demand. That's respectable.
Awesome video, Ian. I've always really liked this particular gun, it's super cool.
2:03 Holy shit the budget for this video is insane
@@Grumpyin If the product is as good of quality as it appears to be, 3.3k seems about right. There's the old saw of 'you get what you pay for', and 100k Round lifetime and that level of fit/finish isn't cheap to get. Mirror finish that good is a lot of time post machining with grinders and hand abrasives if watching Clickspring has taught me anything. And you are paying for the builders time and skills, not just the build materials
@@Grumpyin It's a match-grade revolver made for a French quasi-SWAT outfit with a 100K round warranty imported from France. With quality assurance and build, labor cost, and import taxes, you can do the math...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Not just SWAT, the bigger and badder SWAT. US SWAT wish they could be as badass as these dudes and their equivalency is probably closer to Delta Force than SWAT. but yes, 3.3k for a 100k round rated, basically sniper revolver? honestly the right price.
@@Grumpyin the MR73 is what all other revolvers wish they could be. While it is outside my budget, I completely understand the price for it.
@@Grumpyin As well as the hand fitting other people have mentioned the BOTR (actually Chap[1] OTR) video shows the trigger system... One part that in a normal gun is just a transfer bar with plain sliding and bearing surfaces uses a component four wheels running on a precision ground rail system and a roller bearing surface for the spring. That complexity takes extra time and effort to manufacture, and extra rejected frames because if you get that precision ground rail in the frame wrong that's a frame junked. Gives you near-constant trigger pressure all the way through the pull, in Double Action, though.
And that is just one, admittedly key, part.
[1] Chap is Blokes tame Frenchman, raised in England, living in Switzerland.
The reliability issue adds up when you look at the state of pistol ammunition at the time. It's not at all like the state of handgun defensive ammo today, where pretty much everything in what a US police department would consider a "service caliber" performs about the same with the top tier of mass production defensive ammo, and they tend to feed quite reliably through almost any off the shelf handgun that isn't garbage tier. It's hard to relate just how different the situation is today versus the 1970s, when semiauto JHPs tended towards either gimmick rounds, rounds that were basically FMJs with a tiny hole that didn't reliably expand, or rounds that had cavities large enough to present feeding problems... along with most semiauto guns only being set up for feeding FMJ (and gunsmiths could make a decent living doing nothing more than feed reliability packages on common handgun designs).
If you don't have highly reliable, excellent terminal performance JHPs in your typical semiauto pistol calibers, going with a .357 Magnum revolver goes a long way towards giving you noticeably better terminal effects. Even a SWC full house .357 Magnum would be an improvement over a round nosed jacketed 9mm that didn't expand (whether or not it had a cavity), and the revolver was perfectly fine with a SJHP that looked like a shot glass.
In the 1970s, revolvers were very much the best handgun for the job, and .357 was pretty much the best commonly available caliber.
I remember reading of one police officer - the name escapes me now - who had been involved in multiple gunfights, maybe around the 80's, with a revolver. I remember reading that at the time he was carrying wadcutters loaded backwards into the cartridges with either .38 +P or .357 loads and considered them one of the most effective options for terminal performance at the time.
@@AdNoctemMedia It's not a bad load, although these days there are far better ones available off the shelf without even looking hard.
I even knew old cops who swore by backwards loaded wadcutters in .38 Special cases with *really* hot powder charges, that they only used for "carry" ammo, as a steady diet of that for practice would wear out a Model 10 in rather short order.
And yet I have still had my Glocks malfunction. Interestingly, my S&W model 41, a lowly 22LR, has NEVER jammed on me...Who'd a thunk it?
@@MW-bi1pi *All* guns will malfunction eventually. *Some* are more prone to it than others. Glocks are relatively bombproof with anything other than gimmick ammo or bottom shelf trash (and even then, they're generally pretty reliable). But, like even a Kalashnikov firing milspec ammo, eveb a Glock with malfunction.
A S&W 41 with appropriate ammo is pretty bombproof, if you clean and lubricate it every so often. But, even then, I had a Model 41 malfunction on me while on my brigade pistol team in 1990 or 1991 (we did a lot of practice with the Model 41s, because of a shortage of .45ACP, due to the Gulf War happening).
Heck, I've had S&W *revolvers* malfunction - not often, but it's happened to me.
Yep. Carried a S&W 686 for 13 years. On duty ammo was 158 gr full power. 357 Semi Jacketed Hollow Points. I bought my own practice/qualification rounds. Same as my duty rounds.
I now have a GP 100 six inch that is a dream to shoot.
Looking to get the M73 when a court settlement comes in.
I waited 7 months for mine to arrive in Australia, a beautiful piece of craftsmanship
In 1994 the gign enter in a plane with 4 terrorists with AKs and more than 200 hostages, some of the members had an mr73, that's how much they trusted this gun, they killed the 4 terrorists whithout any hostages or gign members killed in this assault
This is a legendary weapon
On their flight out, the team was transported in the same model plane that had been hijacked. They spent the entire flight drilling and taking practice runs through the plane to prepare for the actual intervention when they arrived.
There is a fois movie on this event if your are interested "L’Assaut"
I knew someone who was on the plane. Poor bugger was coming back from a visit to his family in Algeria. After the assault all the French passengers were seen by psychologists and counselors, the Algerians were just sent home. He didn't stop shaking for weeks.
@@JohnHughesChampigny Hope he succeed in suppressing his post-traumatic syndrom. Wish him well...
@@Wotan422 Punaise on me demandait ce que je voulais pour mon anniversaire... voila l'IDEE! merci et bonne soirée!
"4 out of 5. I'm not exactly special forces myself."
No, you are Gun Jesus. And Gun Jesus WOULD intentionally miss a shot to make those special forces guys feel adequate.
Amen
He's that generous!
"Im not special forces" as he imprints a smile on the target.....
@@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse "I'm not *exactly* special forces". He might have to kill us now.
7:45 Que line from Snatch "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit them with it."
Loved the interview with the founder of gign
I began my police career carrying the Smith Model 19 4 inch blue. They were a great revolver, but as was tradition back then we trained with .38 special wadcutters and carried full blown .357 Magnum. At my behest, we began to use some .357 ammo during our qualification course. I told the trainers and our Chief that having taken my pistol to the range on my own, I found that the 2 rounds were quite different and felt that at a bare minimum we should begin our qualification using the ammo that we had on board in our drop boxes and guns. This was, we insured that all officers actually had fairly fresh ammo in their revolvers on on their belt (those dump boxes sucked!) When we went to the new system, we all discovered that our scores suffered as the recoil of the magnum over those light loaded wadcutters was quite a difference, several officers actually developed flinches when full house magnums were fired. Instead of going back to the old ways, the boss thought we should all train with full house magnums, and use them in the full qualifications. Things changed greatly when the semi-auto became king and such problems were solved by their adoption.
👍 I see the same problem now with our "qual" then duty carry different ammo.
Yup.....target range wadcutters vs. ++P carry/duty rounds.
Kick is different, and muzzle flip/target reacquistion can be an issue....
Train with what you are gonna be using....
(If you "roll" your own, less expensive--but worth it)
Friend of mine has an S&W Airweight in .44mag for his hunting backup piece (the "oh, shit! Bear!!!" gun). Has the Hogue grips on it, they're good for the 240gr loads. I'd shoot most of a box of 240s, it was not unpleasant at all. But holy shit those 300gr loads! I put *one* downrange and gave the gun back. Had an instant bruise all the way through the web of my thumb!
@William Mulvaney My 6" barrel Ruger GP100 is a bit the same. Magnum loads just feel right.
The impact point on the steel targets pops out so well.
LOL
I'm laughing and crying on the inside.
“Let’s go see how embarrassing that is…” spoken like a true bullseye pistol shooter!
If even Ian is running out of ammo, I wonder, how bad is the ammo situation?
.357 is back on the shelves. Its everywhere. Other magnum rounds not at all.
@@michaelbaker8284 where are you at?
Don't people in the US reload handgun ammo?
Too dependent on a regual supply of cheap manufactured ammo?
Literally what I thought lol
@@floydvaughn836 New England
For revolver aficionados like me, this is just THE no bs revolver to have. Beautiful AND functional for it´s purpose. One of the greatest!
I am guessing that this may well be the last example of the revolver as a military arm . . . but darn did it go out on high note! GIGN chose well.
I don't think the revolver will ever be completely out of military use, as there are situations where revolvers have major advantages over autos: precision sniper work, or as in use by the Vietnam Tunnel Rats who preferred the S&W Model 10 or S&W Model 1917 over the 1911.
an integrally suppressed nagant action revolver with a swing-out cylinder would be quiet as a veterinary pistol
i would pay $2,000+
"The McCollum Protocol": resolution of hostage scenarios by removal of the hostage. By headshot.
The Russian Special Forces would approve of this.
Also known as the "Ladrian Maneuver."
Ever watched Billy Jack? Bad guy: drop it or I'll blow her head off. B J: go ahead. B G: you'd kill her, just like that? B J: No, YOU'LL kill her; and then I'll kill YOU...just like that. Yeah, it's a movie. But....
The Fuze Practicum, if you will
I'll never let go of mine. They're wonderful.
2:32
"Let's just go straight into the deep end and see if I can hit the hostage head"
Most people would just shoot the hostage taker but I like how Ian thinks outside of the box.
It's the Russian methodology to hostage situations
Proper European Ammo in a proper European gun. I am considering a MR73 myself. Would be looking good next to my father's Korth.
Im sorry to hear that .sorry for ya soon to be loss
@@fritzdaddy-135mmgetstagger4 I am sorry, what?
@@infantilepillock1687 Probably a joke about your wallet because hot damn, an MR73 and a Korth? That's one hell of a fortune
@@ArcturusOTE Now I get it. Well, I am by law limited to only two handguns. But these two I can make count!
@@infantilepillock1687 that’s a reasonable idea if you can only have 2 then have the best
"Nobody needs 6 rounds to kill a deer"
-Potato, 2023
Only if they shoot back
@@joelmclamore1139 you my friends are stupid deer don't just stand there and let you shoot at them all the time most of the time they are running even when you ant shooting at them
@@tobyhorn9641 Tell that to the deer that ruin my old ladies garden all the time and just stare at her between bites when she is ranting under her breath and giving them a stare of hate on the back porch 10 feet away from them. Also If all the deer you hunt run away you are not doing it right, best work on that sneak skill.
Says the -deer- _potato_ surrounded by guys with machineguns. :(:
I don't know depends on a number of factors regarding what restrictions are in effect applying to what and where you are hunting. You have to consider what the current local goals are with regards to game population control and management where you are hunting, what seasonal restrictions on harvest are in effect where you are hunting, or even what city/county/state jurisdictional restrictions on calibers and method of take you have to comply with where your are hunting. Not to mention despite 357 Magnum being regarded as a relatively high caliber as far as service cartridges are concerned it's controversial to say the least as a sporting cartridge for hunting; though it is certainly used for that. With all that said you are more likely to need more then one shot with a gun like this then almost any center fire rifle including pistol caliber carbines that chamber the same cartridge.
When Ian giggle while handling a weapon, you better listen 😃
While working at one of the largest gun stores in Phoenix AZ, Shooter’s World, I could shoot during breaks sometimes. We had 26 indoor shooting lanes. One of the range guys, who noticed that I was habitually thumbing back the hammer on a DA S&W .357 revolver, told me to try double action, saying that you’re actually more accurate shooting DA, because when you thumb back the hammer, you tend to anticipate the gun firing and even minutely flinch. I found that, indeed, with a smooth double action trigger pull, I was more accurate! 😁
Just viewed Bloke's vid on the MR73 and now yours. Wonderful, thanks!
Glad you finally have access to these over there too, here in Sweden and most of Europe they aren’t that uncommon. Truly fantastic revolvers
I would say the Ruger GP 100 or the 357 Mag Redhawk are as strong or even stronger than the MR73. However, the Ruger actions out of the box will not be even remotely near as good as the MR73. With gun smith work on the GP 100 / Redhawk I'd say the DA trigger can reasonably approach the MR 73. But that ball bearing trigger return on the MR 73 cannot be equaled even at best gun smith work on the GP 100 / Redhawk. Bloke On The Range(BOTR) did a SUPERB job of explaining the MR 73 mechanics. Thanks for the reference to BOTR. Really GREAT that you guys reference and support each other.
I remember seeing photos of the GIGN operatives carrying this revolver as their primary handgun option and also carrying a semiautomatic service pistol.
i have been waiting for this video for like over a month now, and conveniently the day this came out is also my birthday, this is fun
I’ve never been so excited about someone else getting a gun before! Can’t wait until mine gets here. Love the videos! Keep up the good work, Ian.
I’m not really a revolver guy but if I was going to buy one, this would be it. From the standpoint of military reliability and durability, this gun is top notch. It’s actually affordable. This is a one and done purchase. Pay your money one time and you’ll never be sorry you did. No upgrades. No modifications. This is an heirloom revolver. High quality for actual shooting and use. I’d buy this over a Korth revolver any day.
Good review on Bloke on the Range earlier this week too
That *is* my dream 357 Magnum revolver. I think it is the one revolver (or any handgun for that matter) that I wouldn't be tempted to modify in some way from out of the box.
The MR73, Sporting Accuracy for when Lives are actually on the line.
Years ago I asked a gunsmith how to "tame" the bucking of a 357. His reply was "There is a new process called Magnaporting." Had it done to my Ruger Security Six Stainless with a 6" barrel and absolutely love it. God forbid I ever need to use it for anything other than targets, but If I do, I know I stand a far better chance of accuracy with it than my S&W 40.
As a left handed shooter, revolvers have never really stuck out to me.... this may change things!
I've recently done a ton of revolver shooting, and I'm left handed/left eyed. When reloading from a 2h grip, I transfer the grip to my right hand while operating the cylinder catch and popping the cylinder out with my right hand. I operate the ejector with my left hand, then drop a new speed loader in with my left hand. I then close the cylinder, and transfer the revolver back to my left hand.
I'm a left handed shooter the rugers latch is easier to use I can hit the cylinder release with my trigger finger but I do wish there was a new top break
@@Perry2186 but then you're shooting a Ruger. Max ugh.
@@Perry2186 A Ruger/Manurhin exists: MR88
@@Perry2186 I agree! I would totally get a Webly if it was chambered in a modern cartridge!
That laugh/cackle after landing that first shot was great
I'm so glad you shot it in double action the way defensive revolvers ought to be shot.
Probably the second gun I'd get if I won the lottery.
I watched a TFB review of the MR73 and the was shooting better in double than single. His groups in double were noticeably tighter.
@@gurkagurkadurka6688 Saw the same, brilliant video... clearly, the gun was designed for double action.
I've got one that I inherited from my Uncle. I've never fired it but it looks new. Didn't realize that it's worth so much. 😁
@@fredjones7705ahhh they’re only worth like a hundred bucks….. i’ll take it off ya for 200
I have Chapuis Elan 470 Nitro, they are top notch quality! Chapuis maybe the most underrated firearms manufacturer their is when it comes to double rifles!
I know it’s the wrong gun and caliber, but that one hostage head! “The most powerful handgun in the world. It will blow your head clean off”
Your modesty is refreshing! Most viewers wish they could shoot that good. Thanks for a nice video giving the data necessary to make decisions.
I hope this lasts throughout the years; I had a S&W Model 27 from the Bangor Punta days in the early 1970's and I shot it alot. It did not last me many years; the top strap over the forcing cone of the barrel stretched to the point of ruination. Seen Chap's testing of this revolver on Bloke on the Range just this last week; very nice video.
I really like that you gave a shout out to Bloke & Chap, just watched that trigger video last night and it was done very well. It's like you, Karl, Othais, Bloke & Chap are forming your own shared video community based on history and science, rather than. "Ah dude look how cool this gun is, watch me shoot a bunch of garbage with it and complain about politics", like every other gun channel.
"I'm not special forces myself". But you are special to us
I'm very happy for you, getting your hands on this MR73, I was really looking forward for this video and I hope we get more.
Colt Python: I’m the best .357 Magnum Revolver ever
MR73: Hold my French Wine
lol
I had the same sentiment. The python has reigned supreme for so many years, people take its exceptionalism for granted without taking an objective look at something as well made as this.
I've had four Pythons in my life and they were good but fragile.I sold them all and bought the Korth and never looked back.The Manurhin,Korth and Janz are the top three(imho).
@@Demonbfg Was keeping the Python barrels and implant it on a compatible revolver a possibility?
@@ArcturusOTE Have you ever seen a stand alone Python barrel? I haven't.The action,not the barrel,is the Python's claim to fame.
One of the best revolvers if not the best. Incredibly accurate and what a trigger ! Build like a tank ! Amazing gun !!!
Not being able to find .357 for less than 50 dollars a box has spurred me to get started on my reloading set up. I finally was able to find Primers at a reasonable price so I am good to go.
I had found some at $36 for 20 cartridges a few months ago. $50 per 20 is crazy! It is wonderful that you are able to reload instead of dealing with the wild prices.
@Krycanelo7, what did you pay for primers? I have not looked for primers in the past 6 months.
@@MaxCruise73 I was able to get them for 7 cpr. It came out to 10 after hazmat shipping.
@@Krycanelo7 Thank you for your reply.
Sure miss the days of 3 cents per primer.
At least with a revolver, you don't burn thru the rounds as fast.
It's nice to see what you're shooting at. Please do it all of the time.
this revolver is currently available in FRANCE from CHAPUIS :many french shooters use it !
I wouldn't want it if it was massed produced. Thank you for putting quality before quantity
Alternate title: Ian fangirls out on a slick new French wheelgun.
Love your channel. Old video, but, I loved how you apologized for your rustiness before you got started shooting. Man, I think I'm speaking for everyone: you could be shooting it in the air, we're all jealous just watching you hold it.
If i could only have 1 handgun round it would be incredibly hard to pick between 9mm or a .357 mag. .357 is possibly one of the best cartridges ever made
I went through Basic Law Enforcement Training back in 1994/5. About half of my class used revolvers, I used a Ruger P85 9mm and several others used Glocks in 40 S&W or 9mm, and these were all very reliable. There was even a couple of guys from a department that used 1911s and only had a few malfs. However, a few folks from one department carried newly purchased S&W 5906s; and they were hated! They constantly malfunctioned in one way or another. In fact the S&Ws ended up being sent to a gunsmith to fix the problems and the Trainees finished their range training with wheel guns. So even in the mid to early 90s the semi-auto, for law enforcement use, could still be hit or miss. I know the S&W M&P series is very reliable now but I will not buy one because S&W seems to want to engrave/roll stamp the entire manual on the frame and slide.
I love Ian's "shiney" reference while wearing a brown shirt.
Love my fellow Browncoats.
Thank you for all you do
A revolver does make tactical sense in some situations, chiefly when you're in a position where close proximity could interfere with the operating cycle of a semi-auto (slide impacting on the pointman's shield, for example). Smith and Wesson developed the M&P R8 variant of their Model 327 with that in mind.
@RaderizDorret PLUS a revolver is superbly accurate compared to an auto pistol, especially when shots have to be taken at 100 yards or more. Tactically there are scenarios where a revolver definitely still has Law Enforcement / Military applications.
Correct, in fact during the hostage situation in Marignane (inside a plane), this revolver was the main weapon used.
@@khaelamensha3624 Exactly. I'm a big fan of the 9mm service pistol, but for a more concealable gun, I went with a Smith and Wesson Model 642 specifically because revolvers are just more reliable in guns that small while maintaining good performance for the intended role of a deep concealment gun. Revolvers are still plenty relevant for many niche roles, in my opinion.
Nice to see a quality revolver.
"Let me see if I can hit the hostage in the head..."
Dink
Gun Jesus: Happy Spetnaz noises
I now have yet another "bucket list gun"
A super-accurate gun, as accurate as the shooter.
100 % correct.
The French GIGN uses this Manhurin MR73 revolver for decades in the most difficult of counterterror operations/hostage rescues. I think this revolver is the finest revolver in the world. The French GIGN has a long history of excellence using this revolver in security situations. I think there is some wisdom here.
2:35 "... and see if can hit the hostage head"
Ah, so you're going for the russian approach to hostage situations. A proven winner.
Hello guys !!
I had the opportunity to shoot with a lot of revolver in .357 (S&W performance center, my Python, Ruger, etc.)
I must say that the MR73 is the best i ever shot: smooth double action, accuracy, reliability ..
You probably guessed that I am French, but I have weapons of different countries, and I hope to be relatively neutral in my appreciations.
nevertheless, the MR73 seems to me to be one of the best revolvers in the world.
Rather expensive also in France, but not much than an S&W PC or a Colt Python.
Greetings from France to everyone in the U.S. ..
P.S. 1: I'm in love with my S&W 34-2 (22LR)
P.S. 2: The MR 73 was manufactured also in 32 S&W long (MR32) and .38sp (MR38) for sport shooting (single action only) plus a rare .22 LR.
P.S. 3: to Ian. Do you ever heard of the "Mickey's head" in the FAMAS ?
P.S. 4: to Ian once more .. Forgotten weapons .. My favorite channel about firearms .. Great job !!
The auto-generated text called your pistol reports music 👍
Powerful, expensive and unbelievable. Great video Ian.
I was like "oh, id like one of those. Ive wanted a full size .357, id pay like $1,500 for one."
MSRP is $3,300. GIGN must've done half their budget just on these pistols.
and ammunition, I read a book wrotten by a member of the GIGN and the cartridge had to be manually made and cost 1 dollar a piece in the 70's... multiply by 150 for more than 50 guys....
Ian you should do a crowdfund to acquire and document the Anderson Mk VII.
Anderson bought the design papers from the war office for a modern Webley revolver. They've apparently worked out the issues for a .357 top-break revolver.
People say 3000+$ is a lot for this
Idk man, 3000$ for a gun that will outlast me, my son and my grandson is a steal!
So you added a tick to your username, as a character. That's pathetic.
@@AshleyPomeroy lol why the hell would someone do that, it is pathetic
Props to the company for not dropping production quality to get a higher quantity!
I really want to see Karl try one of these. Maybe you two could make one of those 20 minute comparison videos like you used to. Compare it against a semi auto from the time period or heck, even a modern pistol. It would be cool to compare it against a Guncrafter Industries .50 GI 1911. But I’m just rambling at this point.
Good shooting Ian, what a great gun, and very beautiful too.
I hope one day you get a chance to do a video about the French AA-52 machine gun.
That is one gorgeous revolver
I see Ian's chance to hang out with Jerry Miculek, "Hi Jerry, try this."
I'm sure he would like it. Hickock 45 would also like it. I think I seen Hickock 45 do a video on this kind of revolver. Neither are going to tell you its the best thing out there. Its no better than a few dozen that are out there. When you factor in the cost they want for it, it falls to the wayside.
@@tcjohnson3437 Hicko45 loves American revolvers.. Maybe for MR73 he could make a break from the rule... i would be surprised if he made a video about manhurin
@@Andy-cd1dy You are probably right. He has made a lot of videos.
@@tcjohnson3437 I don't think he wants to be in the position by trying MR73 to have to reluctantly admit that it's probably One of the best revolvers in 357 magnums ever built, it is also not of American production... I don't think he could accept it, so I don't think he'll ever make a video about this European revolver. I don't even think Mickulek could do it being a testimonial for Smith &Wesson
@@Andy-cd1dy Possibly .But when you can buy three top line 357's for the price of one of of these, thats not going to be an issue.
I personally think the grips are awesome looking. Purpose built. Well designed, just like the firearm.
2:39 There can't be a hostage situation if there is no hostage :D
9:20 Not sacrificing quality for quantity and getting on a waiting list is a good thing. 6 months to get one and if the quality is as advertised then it's more than worth it. Waiting lists for hand crafted items are not a deterrent to purchase but makes the idea of purchase more desirable regardless of what the product is. If people wait 6 months and get trash the company would be out of business the first year due to orders being canceled.
"If I need more than 6 shots, I'm probably already dead." ~E. Keith.
@William Mulvaney Yeah, shot placement>Shooting them harder. It doesn't matter how hard you miss.
@William Mulvaney You should be target shooting, (Bullseye works for Revolvers, get some Bowling Pins, a kettelbell, and a clock.) So you learn to hit the broadside of a barn with a shotgun. Patterning the shotgun, too. That's how you get better at shooting stuff. I'd say you shouldn't be Carrying. (Bowling pin is the most accessible practical handgun practice, short of Practical Handgun competition, like 2 gun. The Kasarda Drill is another one you can do at home, on the Range. Assuming you have a Range at Home. That Manhurin will chew up, and spit out my "Soup Can" wadcutters: 230 grains, loaded to the same Muzzle Energy as .45 Military Ball.)
@William Mulvaney Okay? Who mentioned spray, and pray with Autos, though? I know what Suppression fire is, but we're talking about Revolvers, and I might have mentioned a Shotgun. So, I guess thanks for mentioning Police spraying the crowd with Automatics? Yeah, Riot "Suppression" but hopefully, they're not shooting .45 military Ball. That kind of "Suppressive Fire" kinda went out with Prohibition in the 20s.
@William Mulvaney Oh, okay. That's a really long discussion which can't really be covered in the comments. Short answer is the Military/Industrial Complex. The same companies (Colt, and Winchester) wanted to sell guns to the Police, and other civilian organizations. (However, this also happened in other countries, which arm their police with guns.)
Thank you , Ian .
Possibly the best revolver I ever saw!
Too bad this particular gun didn't come with a 9mm wheel. Chap from Bloke on the Range has one as well. His came with a 9mm wheel, which should make it easier to find ammo.
Well, I might mention that both colt and Smith fielded military/police revolvers back before WW1. Many of those are still serving as designed. We, have been fortunate to have had a very well designed Auto pistol, taking over many roles that otherwise would have been pushing more revolver designs...possibly. Our gun industry in a free country, continued to design and make a plethora of models. Being a free society we were blessed with many beautiful, polished models to choose from.
Makin me want a revolver now... If only I could feed it.
You can definitely see the quality of the revolver, i do enjoy watching your excitement on the range.
2:36 I am not suer Ian has understood how police work works.. but maybe that is just a cultural difference between the US and europe: "Let´s see if I can hit the hostage head"
Christian Prouteau the founder of the GIGN, said : If you can't make it with one round, maybe 2, you should find an another job.
I think there's a translation error here.
The bad guy is the flipper that Ian was shooting, the hostage is the steel in front.
The target type is usually called a hostage flipper.
A bit of collateral damage...
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His "its a nice shooting gun" voice just screams he loves his job😊