Using Sega Controllers on an Apple II

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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    Today we're going to take a break from complicated projects, and just have some fun by plugging the wrong controllers into an Apple IIGS.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @thecorruptedbit5585
    @thecorruptedbit5585 Рік тому +23

    2:50 infocard!
    Also, in a world of FPGAs and Raspberry Pi -based hacks, its almost refreshing to see a project based around the simple PIC. Simple shenanigans

  • @TsukiToHotaru
    @TsukiToHotaru Рік тому +20

    Yes, more shenanigans

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb Рік тому +5

    Mashing together technology sounds like something Bender Bending Rodríguez would use as a euphemism.

  • @thedopplereffect00
    @thedopplereffect00 Рік тому +1

    So nice they used a simple PIC for a simple application

    • @bytebooster8196
      @bytebooster8196 Рік тому +1

      I use what it takes to get the job done, no overhead / overkill ...

  • @greatquux
    @greatquux Рік тому +3

    Let me just say I appreciate how well you mic the controller and keyboards so we can hear each click and press. It’s actually kinda relaxing 😂

  • @CasualSpud
    @CasualSpud Рік тому +1

    6 button sega controller was my fave.

  • @xotmatrix
    @xotmatrix Рік тому

    That cluttered workbench really hits home. 😬
    Fun video and very cool stealth GS.

  • @DanielMReck
    @DanielMReck Рік тому

    Dargnibbit! I just got the Silpheed soundtrack out of my head a couple days ago.
    "Flying Through Normal Space" is the title of that specific track, I believe. It is so bouncy for an awful lotta folks shootin' you up.

  • @j.m.7580
    @j.m.7580 Рік тому

    Nice job on that Super Mario keyboard/SEGA controller combo!

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver Рік тому +5

    I've gotta be the last living human being who doesn't like joypads. Give me a joystick every time.

    • @joelavcoco
      @joelavcoco Рік тому +1

      Exactly. Especially analog sticks like the CoCo and Apple 2 demand. An analog stick can fake pushbuttons much better than any button controller can fake analog, intervening microcontrollers notwithstanding.

  • @atptourfan
    @atptourfan Рік тому

    Silpheed! We had a more compact two square button joystick on our IIgs.

  • @iceowl
    @iceowl Рік тому +1

    toward the end of the Atari 130XE being any kind of sustainable home computer by the end of the 90s, when finding working joysticks became impossible or too expensive, i would use a Sega Genesis controller.

  • @ZipplyZane
    @ZipplyZane Рік тому

    I remember as a kid bringing an Atari Joystick to school to plug into the Apple //c there. It had the same 9-pin plug, so I was sure it would work.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Рік тому

      Always liked that they worked on C64. Never needed to seek out some obscure other controller like some other computers.

  • @KomradeMikhail
    @KomradeMikhail Рік тому +1

    "I think I may have found the worst possible way to play Super Mario."
    No. Super Mario Bros. Special on the NEC PC-8801 is the worst way.

  • @JohnKiniston
    @JohnKiniston Рік тому

    I love the dancing man.

  • @agamemnon8163
    @agamemnon8163 Рік тому

    7:25 ❤❤❤ wiggle jiggle wiggle jiggle. I’m going to make that into a looping gif and watch it for HOURS!

  • @terinjokes
    @terinjokes Рік тому

    Yes, a second Apple ][ video to catalog today.

  • @JustinRied
    @JustinRied Рік тому

    "Can't... stop... dancing!" 🕺💯

  • @westtell4
    @westtell4 Рік тому

    I love watching video's about old mac's while watching them on a macbook with an m2 chip

  • @DrTofu83
    @DrTofu83 Рік тому

    I see an Ultimate II+ in the project box. What a cool gadget ^_^
    Also, a lovely video ^_^

  • @retroluzzer
    @retroluzzer Рік тому

    The music in this Super Mario Bros. port is a variation of "Thing On A Spring" from C64 by Rob Hubbard. There it's a cult classic track :)

  • @ValTheBee
    @ValTheBee Рік тому

    Watching this after spending 38 hours trying to get openBSD on my G4 powermac…is exactly what i needed

    • @charliesretrocomputing
      @charliesretrocomputing Рік тому

      G4 macs are great, but they hate Linux being run on them unless your name is Sean and you run a channel called Action Retro 😂😂
      He has some sort of magic tool that allows him to install Linux on every Mac ever made!

  • @iMacG3-x9w
    @iMacG3-x9w Рік тому

    What a cool device!

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz Рік тому

    Man and I thought my desk was a mess lol. been cleaning/restoreing multiple PlayStation controllers, a original PS controller (the no analog stick one), a pair of psOne controllers, and a thrift find ps3 one.

  • @lemonherb1
    @lemonherb1 Рік тому

    I just received mine yesterday. Haven't had time to play with it yet, but I do remember using the previous version. It's nice to have options, but I still prefer a joystick over a game pad. I originally played my games on a Gravis joystick back in the day
    I hope you also have a stereo card for your GS, that makes playing IIGS games like Silpheed a lot more enjoyable.
    It's actually interesting that we pretty much did the same thing to our clear case GS, or as I call it my Not So Stealthy GS. The only thing I tried that I got from your videos was that clear monitor shelf.

  • @bryandrobny7690
    @bryandrobny7690 Рік тому

    Hocus pocus can't stop dancing to the monster mash

  • @EweToobUsername
    @EweToobUsername Рік тому +1

    “Today’s video is brought to you…BY ME!”

  • @chironbramberger
    @chironbramberger Рік тому +1

    Tears start at just a buck...
    haha! Thanks for all the great videos!

  • @SonicManEXE
    @SonicManEXE Рік тому +5

    Does the Genesis controller input mean you could use an Atari 2600 controller on it? If so that's certainly a roundabout way to use a more contemporary controller on the Apple II 😅

    • @bytebooster8196
      @bytebooster8196 Рік тому +2

      Yes, you can. The drawback is that the Atari Joystick only has one button. But for Apple II games which need only one button it just works fine

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986 Рік тому

    IIRC the GS also has the motherboard DIN connector for the older big metal box joysticks. So instead of going forward and using later console game pads, you could also go back in time to the 70s/early 80s with your GS! ☺ With all the ports, slots, ADB, and other connectors, the GS is easily the most expandable computer Apple ever made.

  • @shakeuk
    @shakeuk Рік тому +1

    That music is from c64 game thing on a spring

  • @gunma747j
    @gunma747j Рік тому

    Yoooo Silpheed mentioned!!

  • @robertchamberlin2362
    @robertchamberlin2362 Рік тому

    This was so cool Tkz!

  • @frankwhite2072
    @frankwhite2072 Рік тому

    AR: SiLpHeEd HaS tHe BeSt SoUnDtRaCk.
    The entire SEGA catalogue: Am I a joke to you?

  • @TheMalMeninga
    @TheMalMeninga Рік тому +3

    10:32 That's a version of the music from Thing on a Spring (C64)!

    • @JayJay-88
      @JayJay-88 Рік тому +1

      Weird to hear it on an Apple II. Pretending to be a NES. 😅

  • @pjsampras7072
    @pjsampras7072 Рік тому

    Totally normal computing!
    Totally normal gaming!

  • @erikvincent5846
    @erikvincent5846 8 місяців тому

    That PIC microcontroller has quite a bit of punch to it too.

  • @MrAlan1828
    @MrAlan1828 Рік тому

    The Best sound track is actually Silpheed on the PC MT-32 or LAPC-1

  • @meetoo594
    @meetoo594 Рік тому

    That paperboy conversion looks and sounds very similar to the c64 version.

  • @nightcrayon
    @nightcrayon Рік тому

    Your iigs needs a stereo card! To enjoy that Silpheed music and all the others. A Litesound or Darksound are pretty affordable...

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 Рік тому

    I recently bought a cheap USB controller to play Mars Rising on my G3 iBook and yes, a controller is soooo much better than the keyboard.

  • @JohnKiniston
    @JohnKiniston Рік тому

    I want to chip in to support this sponsor less video.

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 Рік тому

    I look forward to VCF low earth orbit some day.

  • @ΚώσταςΤαπεινός-η4μ

    Great video! Please, give some more Apple IIgs goodies!!!

  • @codahighland
    @codahighland Рік тому

    I get that the IIgs is a little too obscure for good video title SEO, but that was what made me click it before it was changed.

  • @cathrynm
    @cathrynm 6 місяців тому

    I'm setting up an Apple 2GS system (and that AppleSqueezer card is unobtanium,near as I can tell), but considering this. That those old Apple analog joysticks were never that great and I do have a bunchy of PS1/2 gamepads lying around.

  • @zarcha
    @zarcha Рік тому

    daaaaaaaang....i got mine not long ago before the ps1 support....

  • @galamoonretrogaming
    @galamoonretrogaming Рік тому

    Nice machine

  • @1-eye-willy
    @1-eye-willy Рік тому +1

    you must have never played the official nec pc98 port of super mario bros "deluxe"

  • @joshj88
    @joshj88 Рік тому

    that "wonderful" sylpheed soundtrack made me fire up my Sega CD just to hear it the way it was meant to sound. The IIgs just doesn't have good sound with that game. the silly thing is the CD doesn't even use rebook audio, it uses FM synth!

  • @michaelsasse8427
    @michaelsasse8427 Рік тому

    I don't know. I would like to see more grand hand gestures.😉

  • @typerightseesight
    @typerightseesight Рік тому +2

    segapple!?

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Рік тому

    Modern Controllers for Apple II.

  • @richardestes6499
    @richardestes6499 6 місяців тому

    New idea: repurposing a Sega Genesis motherboard as the base for a 68k hackintosh.

  • @Michael-Archonaeus
    @Michael-Archonaeus Рік тому

    Personally, I think the OG fat XBOX controller is the best controller ever made, closely followed by the N64 controller with a Gamecube style stick, but I'm weird.

  • @jacobmckenna8661
    @jacobmckenna8661 Рік тому

    When Sean said "tiers start at just a buck", I thought he said "tears"

    • @JaredConnell
      @JaredConnell Рік тому +1

      He will make you cry for just a dollar!

  • @toddholcomb1
    @toddholcomb1 Рік тому

    You should''ve fired up some Broderbund titles to test it out with, like Choplifter, Wings of Fury, Karateka, etc.

  • @Xilefian
    @Xilefian Рік тому

    Is that a copy of Wolfenstein 3D on the GBA I see? :D Nice

    • @Xilefian
      @Xilefian Рік тому

      I also see what looks like a GBA shell! Building a custom GBA?

  • @bryandrobny7690
    @bryandrobny7690 Рік тому

    I didn't get a computer until after i was out of school in 2000 i ordered a windows 98 Se from Gateway a 500mhz esential pc with a celeron and 64 mb of ram

  • @slappymcphee
    @slappymcphee Рік тому

    What about for a traditional early Pentium 2 PC? Is there an adapter made for those as well? I was trying to go through that website that you linked to for this adapter but not sure if I'm just missing it or if there's nothing there?

  • @Rouxenator
    @Rouxenator Рік тому

    Maybe they can also control submarines?

  • @cheater00
    @cheater00 Рік тому

    lmao that's some crazy ass noise, do you live in like a nuclear reactor or something? heheheh

  • @rager1969
    @rager1969 Рік тому

    Oh crap, I forgot it was #Appleril. Of course, every video you do is qualifies for #Appleril.

  • @Fataha22
    @Fataha22 Рік тому

    0:02 it's already may here

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 Рік тому

    I was always too hard on those analog controllers, they didn't last very long.

  • @pedropassamani
    @pedropassamani Рік тому

    Cool

  • @canidsong
    @canidsong Рік тому

    nes and snes controllers are simpler to interface, as they're just an 8-bit parallel to serial shift register and two of them cascaded, respectively. I don't remember but I think the mastersystem controller was similarly simplistic. somebody let me know about the later if you remember.

    • @bytebooster8196
      @bytebooster8196 Рік тому

      The Sega controllers are even easier, im fact the are using one more control line to check the additional buttons, compared to the standard 9pin Atari Joysticks. The PS controllers are quite a bit more advanced using the SPI protocol

  • @sjftech
    @sjftech Рік тому +1

    4:00 if it doesn't work with digital inputs, how come you're able to use the dpad on the genesis controller, the snes controller and the ps2 controller? I'm a little confused.

    • @bytebooster8196
      @bytebooster8196 Рік тому

      It works with D-pad and Thumbstick on the PS controller, you can use START to switch between them

    • @sjftech
      @sjftech Рік тому +1

      @Byte Booster That makes sense. When Sean said it didn't work with digital inputs, it seemed wrong.

  • @charliesretrocomputing
    @charliesretrocomputing Рік тому

    Just casually using iMovie to edit my YT video while I watch my Sunday morning cartoons (this video)

    • @Michael-Archonaeus
      @Michael-Archonaeus Рік тому

      Fun fact, all the videos on my channel were made using iMovie on a Powerbook G4 lol

    • @charliesretrocomputing
      @charliesretrocomputing Рік тому +1

      👍👍👍
      iMovie is user-friendly, free, good enough, and great on old Macs too!
      I’m editing it on a 2015 iMac and I lost 2 HOURS OF FOOTAGE due to corruption😡😡
      I’m in the process of using VLC to try and repair the file, it will take hours 🤦‍♂️

  • @shergill3633
    @shergill3633 Рік тому

    Man I want same keyboard and computers... Suggest me link?

  • @madson-web
    @madson-web Рік тому

    The only game controller I think is better than the Sega Genesis one is the Sega Saturn one.

  • @Aaron.Newman
    @Aaron.Newman Рік тому

    How do you get ahold of ByteBooster? I have an idea for creating something for IIgs.

  • @AllanAdamson
    @AllanAdamson Рік тому

    NES controller = GOAT ... 2nd place.. gamecube

  • @SaulVector
    @SaulVector Рік тому

    Eu gostaria de ver o Power Mac 5500, ou então o LC I II III, diferenciar um pouco o conteúdo

  • @bigbrothertv2167
    @bigbrothertv2167 Рік тому

    Is this possible for Macintosh?

  • @Vlamat67
    @Vlamat67 Рік тому

    Come mai non hai provato Maincraft ?🤣

  • @tropicalretro
    @tropicalretro Рік тому +1

    You did not used the best joysticks of all times: *The Atari 2600 Joystick* 🤣 🤣 I know most ppl hate that joystick, but growing up in the Atari era, that’s the one I’m most comfortable with! I did built an Atari adapter for my IIe out of a publicly available PCB on PCB Way.

  • @leency
    @leency Рік тому

    Partly gamepad and keyboard? Phh... There is a Korean guy who got a world record in Mario this way.

  • @georgesenda1952
    @georgesenda1952 Рік тому

    I love your videos...but...you keep listing links that either do not work or the product is constantly listed as out of stock as was the case with the Apple Squeezer.
    Don't you check these links out to see if products are available BEFORE you post the link ?
    Or am I too old school and expecting too much ?
    I think not.
    I have an Apple ][ E, GS, C, + and an integer based Apple ][ and would like to buy products but they always seem to be out of stock.
    The link for the ByteBuster worked and is in stock with some very interesting retro games available in my quick look.

    • @ActionRetro
      @ActionRetro  Рік тому

      lately when I've covered projects like this, I've been messaging the creators before hand to give them a head's up they might see more orders.

  • @andyttm14
    @andyttm14 Рік тому

    Blasphemy! 9:46

  • @timotheatae
    @timotheatae Рік тому

    I can't believe he called the L button "L2" 😭

  • @joelavcoco
    @joelavcoco Рік тому

    Nintappleis.

  • @bbqgiraffe3766
    @bbqgiraffe3766 Рік тому

    Oh sick I'm early

  • @ryanzmuda3167
    @ryanzmuda3167 Рік тому

    Why can’t Mario work with a controller.

  • @6891s
    @6891s Рік тому

    ok

  • @Peter_S_
    @Peter_S_ Рік тому

    Procrastinate now, don't put it off.

  • @PBMINE
    @PBMINE Рік тому

    Cool