What D&D Alignment is Shirou? (Project Mouthwash UBW:A)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Today we're determining the D&D Character Alignment of Shirou from Project Mouthwash's Unlimited Blade Works: Abridged! If you haven't seen their Fate parody yet, check it out in the link below.
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Actually, Archer never achieved his dream of saving everyone.
As a Counter Guardian Archer was forced to kill a lot of people, regardless of guilt or innocence, in order to save worlds. Basically, a Counter Guardian is the nuclear option for saving worlds.
Being fair about giving up Saber for Taiga... She's basically his older sister
Agreed.
Though that in the anime, i think that Shirou would be capable to rescue Taiga without surrender Saber, as she was being levitated, than be in Caster's arms like in the visual novel, to the point that Saber was capable to attack the witch without put in jeopardize Taiga, and while she was busy avoiding Saber's attacks, Shirou and Rin would took advantage from this chance to fully rescue Taiga, saving her and avoiding has to sacrifice Saber to Caster.
"Just pretend that Mordred doesnt exist for now"
So like Artoria got it
Edit: sorry but the setup was obvious
Okay so for some added context in case anyone here isn't big on Fate. That teacher is Taiga Fujimura. Who is Shirou's guardian and like a big sister to him. She looked after him when he was growing up and was around a lot because she had a crush on his adopted dad Kiritsugu. I feel framing him giving up Saber to save "a teacher" is a little disingenuous even if the Abridged series doesn't bring her up. That is still his family.
To give Stu some grace, still has been a long time since he read the visual novel.
To be fair - even being on the UBW line - it's still more than early enough that Shirou would sacrifice whatever to save a perfect stranger, let alone Taiga.
@@azurethescaletipper210 Oh I get that I wanted to give some context for those who don't know and even if that is true that doesn't change how I feel about it. I don't like how little Taiga is in the Abridged series personally but she's also one of my top 5 fate characters.
@@RoninGrey As true as that is that doesn't change the fact that Taiga is more than just "a teacher" to Shirou.
Wait Taiga has a crush on Kiritsugu?
Shirou is honestly lawful stupid at times given how he insists that his *mythologically powerful servant* stays away from him when people are actually trying to kill him
Yeah he comes off like that until you do all 3 route then you realize he's less stupid and more insane.
@@MasakanSolaris Yeah dude thought grafting his alternative reality heroic spirit self's arm onto his body was a good idea.
Almost makes you think the lesbian loli universe version of himself the sane one.
Only seems stupid when you are anime only or ignore why he does things. He feels that everyone is better than him and his own sense of self worth does not exist so he places everyone above him and can’t accept them protecting him
@Jordan-ud4qv If you're an anime-only, he seems like an idiot. With the charactization if the VN's internal monolog, it becomes "Oh, this kid has serious mental issues."
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I can't say anything regarding your opinion on the most GOATED abridged series as I haven't seen them all or even this one in full, but i will say I can appreciate dedication in writing and understanding your source material.
TFS could be argued to be the GOAT of abridged series, but they took liberties with a lot of thier SM and I respect most of their choices.
Though I would honestly give the award to SAO abridged or Goblin Slayer.
SAO for polishing a turd into literal gold.
Goblin Slayer for completely changing the genre of the series into a comedy but not actually changing anything else in the story for the most part.
See you on the 9th day!
I really love Shirou as a character and it is fascinating to see him and his Ideals of heroism change with each of the routes
Even other Fate material like Prisma Illiya does explore it if you haven't i would highly recommend watching Vow under snow OVA
>Rin Tohsaka
>Unironically favorite waifu ever
Same dude, same
1. Once again, he said Archer NUKED Beserker
2. Kiritsugu refused to teach Shirou Magecraft (and by extension refused to impart his crest) and only taught him projection because of Shirou's incessant pleading
3. Shirou has Stupid Dumb Hero Mode active at all times
I honestly think shirou is a weird hero but is honestly a fascinating hero and how his philosophy evolves especially if archer retains memories of each pathway or knows about a time loop
This video does a good job explaining it. ua-cam.com/video/AX9kHDvczJY/v-deo.htmlsi=xRXFp1OwXrD-G4iY
10:18
While in the visual novel its understable that Shirou had to surrender Saber, as Caster had Taiga literally in her arms, making impossible to fights the witch without harm Taiga.
In the anime, Shirou was illogical, rash and stupid for surrender Saber, because in this occasion, Taiga was being levitated by Caster, than be in her arms, leaving the Witch exposed to be attacked. Adding that even the brief moment in that Saber was attacking Caster, the magic strings on Taiga were loosing, showing that Saber can attack without put in jeopardize Taiga in the anime.
But the idiot of Shirou, instead to took advantage from the quick attack of Saber to fully rescue Taiga while Caster was busy, Shirou chose to used his Command Spell to stopped Saber, leaving her defenseless to Caster, and allowing the witch to enslaves her, leading to many problems for everybody. Especially for the poor Saber, who was brutally tortured by Caster's Command Spell, tied and forced to be in a very unconfortable posture, forced to wears a poisoned wedding dress that was harming her, and deprived from a proper mana supply, food and sleep, all this during days. All because Shirou.
Bland? Shirou is an amazing character and hero.
He likes fixing things and archery, but he also cooks and is very kind. While a 'lawful good' character, he is one of the least judgmental characters out there to others - other people writing lawful good could learn a lot from Shirou. Compared to a lot of other heroes, Shioru is one of the most interesting and complex out there. Watching Shirou grow and change through the three routes is a wonderful and fascinating experience that I love to revisit. Or, well, UBW and HF anyway.
5:12 Shirou has failed the Wisdom Saving Throw (Wisdom is his Dump Stat, not Intelligence, he's actually pretty smart)
I'd say learning swordsmanship was NG, N, or LN depending on how you want to scale things. LG would probably have been Saber Body Guard.
Edit: Not just teacher, all but older sister the last 10 years or so. Also... her... family... is, for lack of a better description, half owners of the property he lives on until he becomes an adult... so, Landlord?
In each of the three routes of the VN he grows to overcome his survivor's guilt to some extent and makes peace with his past and chooses a path for his future:
- In Fate he falls in love with Artoria and eventually acknowledges that he deeply regrets what happened 10 years ago, but he also decides that trying to alter the past to undo his regrets isn't right (both because that rejects the present and because it insults the loss and sacrifices that led to the present day world IIRC). This inspires Artoria to give up her quest for the grail and ascend to Avalon in death and Shirou doubles down on pursuing his impossible ideal becoming "a hero that can save everyone" because looking at Artoria's life shows him the beauty of pursuing an impossible ideal even if you ultimately fail it doesn't render the things you did in the pursuit of the ideal meaningless.
- In UBW he falls in love with Rin and is faced with the path his current life is leading to thanks to Archer. Eventually, he acknowledges that he simply inherited this dream because he sought to feel the way Kiritsugu felt when he rescued Shirou from the fire and not because this was ideal he aspired to in the first place. In the end of UBW, he decides that he will pursue this ideal because it is worth pursuing (it is beautiful) even if it is destined to fail. He also has Rin by his side to make sure he is up to snuff and to ensure that he doesn't go too far.
- In Heaven's Feel he falls in love with Sakura and is forced to choose between saving her and saving everybody. Eventually, he chooses to save her, giving up on his borrowed ideal in pursuit of making Sakura happy. Here he chooses that saving Sakura from her torment takes priority over his promise to Kiritsugu. Here he is saved by Illya's sacrifice and lives with Sakura and Rider with Rin dropping by often.
There were many interpretations of Shirou's growth in the three routes back when the VN became popular in the West. One of the most popular but highly misleading one being that Fate's Shirou has the mindset of a boy, UBW's Shirou that of a teenager and HF's Shirou that of a man. This interpretation misses out on the character growth that Shirou undergoes in Fate and UBW and overestimates the growth he undergoes in HF.
In all three routes Shirou is faced with the practical difficulties in trying to "save everyone" and has to acknowledge that it is driven by his failure to help anyone in the Fuyuki fire and his admiration for how Kiritsugu looked like he was saved when he rescued Shirou. Basically, Shirou is seeking salvation through saving others because he wishes to feel what Kiritsugu felt when he saved Shirou. And his survivor's guilt keeps him from ever seeing value in his own life. Across all three routes Shirou chooses an course of his future based on what he values in life rather than reaching for what Kiritsugu felt in the past. He places some value in his life now, but that seems to be driven by the notion that the people he cares for place value in his life. Shirou didn't get "fixed" in a span of two weeks and is still a work in progress. Hell, it can be argued that Shirou is at his most selfish in Fate as he wishes to pursue an impossible ideal in the hope to be reunited with his love for all eternity. So, that is a massive amount of character growth for him.
Pretty sure that Rin is everyone's favorite waifu. Between her naturally perfect tsundere and outstanding character design, what's not to love?
I prefer extra/ccc sakura personally and yes I'm including the bb and sakura five they are part of her, stay night sakura suffers of fifth wheel outside of HF
10:11 Actually it was a date just between him and Rin with Saber there as their body guard... So no, sadly it's not 2 woman, it's him and Rin.
don't squish my dreams ;P
all the characters in this abridged are chaotic. Just chaotic.
Abridged Rin has been my favorite Rin. 100%.
12:10 Which is ironic because in the proper UBW route, he doesn't have a single proper win, other then against Archer, and even then a lot of people would argue whatever is a win or not.
I would say that i prefer the constant losing for Shirou, it forces him to just learn from his error, to understand why his ideals are failing him, and why he is failing. It's why the moment he summons UBW on this route, it's such a great moment even if it doesn't lead to a W, because it's Shirou showing everything that he has learn about himself.
I would argue, that i prefer the Fate route to the Heaven's Feel route, the Heaven's Feel route, in my opinion, it's the worse route of FST, because it doesn't feel organic, it doesn't feel like Shirou learn stuff, and grew, i would argue he became a different version of Archer, which isn't shown to be healthy, a machine that only wants to save Sakura. And the true ending feels totally tone deaf, with the just "good ending", feeling appropiate, which is sad because it's tragic as sh*t, but it's the one that makes sense with how the route was written.
Compare to the Fate Route, i feel like it does the inverse of UBW, where UBW is about Shirou learning about what it means to follow his ideals, and how to apply it more realistically, the Fate route is more about understanding why he wants to follow those ideals, what he saw and lived through that made him want to follow them.
Finally i think i have imply pretty well why i love the UBW route, and why do i think, it's the best route of the Fate Franchise... Also fun fact, it contains the only heroine that doesn't try to kill Shirou in the whole route. How do you ask when she tried to do so in the school? Well you see, the thing is that, she didn't, the curse she was using, hit stronger on unliving material then living one, it gives you a very strong flu, if it hits you. How strong? Strong enough to put a Shirou boosted healing by Avalon in a bad situation enough that he had to skip school a few days, and Rin used those moments he was first hit to just take out his command seal, brainwash him into forgetting about the Holy Grail War, Saber and her, and then proceed to watch him from a far to be sure that he forgot everything when he recover from the flu.
Fate route is much different
He didnt became a hero of justice like archer
He just wants to be a hero so he can reach avalon and be with saber
He technically abandoned his original ideals to save many and be a jaded husk going around saving people
And instead chose to have a goal who is nigh impossible but is much more better compared to his Archer self.
Shirou might be my favorite fictional character of all time, man he is simply my craziest guilt-tripped PTSD hero boi but he is MY hero.
0:39 Correction: it was indirectly caused by the very man who saved his life.
So my.. first experience with fate was the abridged series. It got me into the series.
Shirou is one of my favorite characters and while I do love saber the heavens feel route is my favorite because shirou was willing to throw away his ideal and dream to save sakura 12:41
Please do the D&D alignment of mori Jin from the manhwa god of high school
Woo! One week till Best Girl!
IMO it’s clear cut-ish that the 3 routes represent the three paradigms of Good.
At least he is Good person, can’t say that for all Fate protags haha
A video on Violet Evergarden please!
It doesn't have a Zn
4:03 is give me bai-
S.W.O.R.D
Any plans for other nasuverse characters?
Would love to hear your take on Shiki.
Ryougi or Tohno?
@@thedimondminerz9049 my goat Tohno of course.
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I would like to see one of this but with Miyuverse and Heavens feel Shirou
Marbles hurt me
1:50 *NEVER*
Mordred best girl!
I would love to read it, but they still havent ported us a version i can pick up and im not adept at pirating an english patch.
Shirou is voiced by Abridged Kirito's Actor here ain't he
I can tell, the person has that distinct voice
Einzbern is pronounced as if you were saying Eye-N-Z-Burn
Shirous alignment is sword and cooking.😂
MAH-GUS
MAH-GUS?!
you good dude? you're making a weird sound
Time for you to dip into the actual series
would love to hear you dealing with that entire thing XD
Shirou: Try Not To Die (Challenge Impossible).
Love from a MothersBasement and Vaush fan!
You do realize that Vaush is a freak right?
@@tymaddux2644 In what way?
@@VooshSpokesman dude is into f*cking Lolis that look like goblins and Horses pee pee, you do the fucking math there. The guy ur representing is a fucking degenerate.
4:18 and predates. Sometimes, a man has to predate.
Let give a Wild guess: Chaotic Good?
Nah that's Fate route Shirou
Shirou seems more like near completely lawful
All for the sake of justice?
Despite his sword collection history?
The only Shirou that i like is Heaven's feel Shirou....
I like shirou all route
You mean the guy who decided grafting a heroic spirit's arm onto his body was a good idea..How ?
@@clothar23 To be fair, Shirou didn't decide to do that. Bo-wait hold on:
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Both Shirou and Archer were dying from Darkura's attacks, and Archer, in a combination of kindness and approval of Shirou abandoning the ideal that would lead him to #ell, had Kirei Kotomine graft his arm onto Shirou to save at least one of them and also give Shirou a way to fight.
Berserker Shirou.