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FAST LSXR INTAKE-IS IT WORTH $1000? HOW MUCH HP DOES IT ADD? LSXR VS CHEAP, JUNKYARD TRUCK INTAKE

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2022
  • LOW-BUCK, CHEAP, JUNKYARD TRUCK INTAKE VS BIG BUCKS FAST LSXR! HOW MUCH POWER IS THE FAST LSXR INTAKE WORTH ON MY LS? SHOULD I BUY IT FOR MY STOCK 4.8L OR 5.3L? FAST VS TRUCK INTAKE-WHO WINS? HOW MUCH POWER IS THE INTAKE UPGRADE WORTH ON A MODIFIED LS MOTOR? HOW TO GAIN, 10 HP, 20 HP OR EVEN 30+ HP WITH AN INTAKE UPGRADE! HOW HARD IS THE FAST INTAKE TO INSTALL? CAN THE FIRST TIMER PERFORM AN INTAKE SWAP? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED THE FAST LSXR INTAKE AND 102-MM THROTTLE BODY TO THE STOCK (EARLY) TRUCK INTAKE (FROM THE JUNKYARD) AND MATCHING MANUAL THROTTLE BODY. HOW MUCH POWER WAS THE FAST INTAKE UPGRADE WORTH ON THE BTR-CAMMED 5.3L L33?

КОМЕНТАРІ • 289

  • @cryptoredneck8255
    @cryptoredneck8255 Рік тому +41

    Thank you for this test. This is almost identical to my Silverado. I just can't justify the money for a intake manifold. However who doesn't love the look of a aftermarket manifold.

  • @jr78racer
    @jr78racer Рік тому +51

    My takeaway from the test is that you really have to be honest with yourself about how often you’re going to be above 5000 rpm. For vehicles that see 90% street time, I would argue it’s not worth it. Of course if you’re racing, the FAST is the way to go.

    • @blow0me
      @blow0me Рік тому +4

      in this case, it's more a case that the stock intake/tb just isn't a huge restriction on the small 5.3. But it is equally impressive that the FAST intake loses nothing at the low end, so it is a win win for those who are seeking to grow further down the line

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl Рік тому +3

      Even w/my 04 Z06 and 6 speed used as a toy.. I really don't go full throttle over 5500 rpms all that often. It's gotta be like less than 1% of the time. ANd due to traction.. its only in 2nd and 3rd gear when on the street.

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 Рік тому +1

      People spend more than $1k on wheels alone, that's nothing compared to a $1k intake upgrade thay actually offers performance.

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl Рік тому +6

      @@sepg5084 ya-but... that performance is only seen a few times. That is... unless your like I was when I was 16yrs old 😆

    • @loganrolling2536
      @loganrolling2536 7 місяців тому +1

      My 03 Silverado sees over 5k very often lol

  • @lucasmullins5100
    @lucasmullins5100 Рік тому +8

    Don't forget the Fast just looks nicer as well so more power, better looks and more room to grow made it worth while to me. I was guessing about 20 HP on my 5.3 with a cam.

  • @BigHeinen
    @BigHeinen Рік тому +11

    Same takeaway I came up with. For a street rod or street truck application you will rarely see over 4500RPM anyway. In this test there was virtually no difference in HP or torque clear to 5,000. That $1,000+ will go a long way in other areas of your project build. Just my opinion and as always YMMV.

  • @gmontoya5307
    @gmontoya5307 Рік тому +9

    You are the man brother.... God bless for all that you do for your community... Love all your videos...

  • @ttsupra87
    @ttsupra87 Рік тому +6

    Literally just went full bore heads, cams, 102mm intake could weeks back. Looks like it was a good choice. Thanks for the test and all your hard work man!

    • @boost1728
      @boost1728 Рік тому +1

      Multiple cam LS? Interesting

    • @UBeesh10
      @UBeesh10 5 місяців тому

      Cams lol

  • @gofastparts4u
    @gofastparts4u Рік тому +20

    It's too bad the price of the Dorman LS2 skyrocketed. If I recall correctly, it made damn good power, not quite what the FAST makes, but close enough considering the cost, at the time anyway. Now they're almost as expensive as this intake if you can even find one.

    • @vans1107
      @vans1107 Рік тому +5

      if you've got this engine in a truck you would be better off going with a NBSS/TBSS intake, much cheaper than the dorman LS2 and makes the same power. In fact there's really no point in even considering the Dorman anymore since the price is over a grand now..if you're spending that much you might as well spend the extra couple hundred and buy the significantly better FAST 102.

    • @Turbogto_guy
      @Turbogto_guy Рік тому +5

      Damn. I could make money on my dorman. I bought one early on. Think I paid under $300. Anything more than that is a ripoff. It’s really a piece of shit.

    • @lik_2x435
      @lik_2x435 5 місяців тому

      A

  • @JustChuck
    @JustChuck Рік тому +16

    TBSS intake would have been an interesting comparison.

  • @BobbyD75
    @BobbyD75 Рік тому +3

    $2000 + for 30 hp just turbo it . Love your work . Thank you saves people tons of money and work .

    • @james10739
      @james10739 24 дні тому

      Is it $2000 I thought he said it was $1000 which is about what I have seen

    • @BobbyD75
      @BobbyD75 23 дні тому

      1200 for the intake all new gaskets tuning and all the extras to add the intake

  • @Long-nd8bq
    @Long-nd8bq 11 місяців тому +2

    I wouldn't spend the money on the TB, Intake, and Fuel rails until you already maximized your combo with cam, valve springs, converters, gears, tune. Doing this intake/tb/fuel rail on a mostly stock setup that maybe only has headers and a y-pipe this would be money well spent elsewhere and you'd get gapped by a cammed truck or one with a higher stall converter. This would be a good upgrade if you already have the other stuff and just want a little more out of your combo, but I'd probably get a set of ported heads and swap it all on at the same time. Also, can get good gains from a TBSS / later model truck intake swap and you can find those in a junkyard and get it for under $100 if you can find one and remove it yourself.

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 Місяць тому +1

    So a modified 5.3L, $1,000 intake, $514 for throttle body, $398 for cam & lifters, you gain HP & torque = $633 per 3 hp, 42 lbs ft torque is very small gain! Got it.
    My 1,510 house is valued at $440.000 which includes a 10 X 12' shed is covered for $44,000. Makes sense to me to pay $428 per month on homeowners even though it hasn't grown larger! Since 92.
    Excise me while I throw up..

  • @simpleman2004
    @simpleman2004 Рік тому +2

    I cut the mounting tabs off of a stock truck fuel rail and made some brackets to hold the rails down, LS7 injectors with spacers.

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher Рік тому +1

    A grand for gains only over 5150? Yeah, nah. Not for a daily.
    Thanks again Richard. Giving us the best info in where to spend our hard earned monies.

  • @genemounce8302
    @genemounce8302 Рік тому +4

    The faces you make bruh,. LMAO.. #priceless ! Merry Christmas to you and yours Rich.

  • @builditinyourgarage7826
    @builditinyourgarage7826 Рік тому +2

    Yet another great comparison video. I believe this video is another example to show where to spend your money based on your end result of the combination you want to do.

  • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
    @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 4 місяці тому +1

    Great test... This shows it'll shine up top and not kill street manners. And if it's not going to live in the upper RPMs, then it's not necessary...
    That's where a good TBSS intake would shine great at.
    This intake would definitely be great on a bigger motor with good flowing heads as well. But then you get to the point of, when do you just go turbo and keep it more budget friendly. 😁

  • @ianb3866
    @ianb3866 Рік тому +3

    make a video about the 300-500 dollar intakes on Ebay and JEGS

  • @scotttimpany2845
    @scotttimpany2845 Рік тому +1

    Blaster! Since 1957. Master Blaster since July 1985

  • @bobbywilliams5657
    @bobbywilliams5657 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks to you Richard I don't have to invest my money into an intake I will keep my stock I heard you saying one of your videos you didn't know how deep lake Tahoe 1,644ft
    👍

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful 4 місяці тому +1

    I've got a 5.3 in my 84 camaro. The stock truck intake doesn't fit well under the stock hood.
    This intake fits great, also the power gain doesn't hurt. Since this is a track car, the high rpms are where it likes to live

    • @keith-jo6wg
      @keith-jo6wg 14 днів тому

      Or where U make it live i dought it Likes it lol

  • @martygrajeda3457
    @martygrajeda3457 Рік тому +2

    Fast is definitely worth it!

  • @chrishansen7004
    @chrishansen7004 Рік тому +4

    Seems like this manifold would be better spent on a 6.0 or a 5.3 punched out too a 5.7 where there would be a bigger requirement for more air volume and flow, a tbss is still the best manifold for a 5.3, considering that you can get ls1 pistons from summit racing for 800 bucks Canadian your money is way better spent increasing your displacement and getting the manifold later

  • @Mattvardaman
    @Mattvardaman Рік тому +1

    The fast manifold at $1000 is $41.66/hp for 24hp. Nitrous is about $350-500 for 125/200hp. I don’t have the budget for the fast. I’ve just recently started welding so I can make my own aluminized mild steel turbo kit. I drive a truck with cam, springs, and long tube headers on e85.

  • @natricjol
    @natricjol Рік тому +1

    Truck intake < TBSS (NNBS) intake < LSXRT
    Truck intake will be good for most people. LSXRT is for people pushing the limits of their build. TBSS will increase power across the room range and increase the efficiency of the mods that were already completed and give you most of the gains from the LSXRT without the cost.

  • @dresdensvo
    @dresdensvo Рік тому +1

    Also never shown on a dyno graph is Looks and Hood clerance . But the dorman Ls6 does that . If it ever goes back into mass production .

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 Рік тому +1

    I say a LS 3 style manifold has major benefits if you want to keep your old hood in some of the lower profile hoods

  • @debodang993
    @debodang993 4 місяці тому +1

    I love all your videos on all vehicle platforms

  • @robertharper8709
    @robertharper8709 Рік тому +1

    I agree with the others, it's not needed for that build. Your not racing cammed a truck on a track, and if a cammed 5.3L is going in your project car, a wet nitrous kit would be alot better hp/$ for the occasional drag racing.

  • @baldo5097
    @baldo5097 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the time and effort you put on these videos for is boss appreciate it.

  • @bertmorlas3534
    @bertmorlas3534 Рік тому +1

    Always a good dyno day when you see Richards Grrrr face

  • @derrickbailey7681
    @derrickbailey7681 Рік тому +2

    I been waiting on this

  • @DM-qp7do
    @DM-qp7do Рік тому +3

    Hmm 🤔since I am porting my heads along with a cam and headers.....🤔 YUP!!! SOLD👍🏁🏁🏁🏁

  • @oxycopium
    @oxycopium 6 місяців тому +1

    If i had a deal on a i take instead of 1500 it was 500 maybe. But at that price i would just save a little nore and get a twin turbo kit for 3600.

  • @slows102
    @slows102 Рік тому +4

    Fast might only make 10hp more than tbss intake, and they can be had for $200

  • @THEFERMANATOR
    @THEFERMANATOR Рік тому +2

    I would have liked to have seen the tbss/gen iv intake thrown in to the mix. I considered a lsxrt intake, but you can pick up an lh6 out of a trailblazer cheap with a bad cam, and you get a set of 799 heads, tbss intake, and resell the aluminum 5.3l short block to get most of your money back making the heads and intake almost free.

    • @wheelbasemedia5814
      @wheelbasemedia5814 Рік тому

      That test like that exists on his channel, although it's from a few years ago and on a 6.0. ua-cam.com/video/a2M10LiwE7Q/v-deo.html&ab_channel=RichardHoldener

    • @THEFERMANATOR
      @THEFERMANATOR Рік тому

      @@wheelbasemedia5814 I've seen that test, but as you pointed out, that was a 6.0l, and one that is more heavily modded than most go. It would have been nice to have seen the tbss thrown in to the mix on a cam only 5.3l like so many like myself are doing.

  • @btchhopperou812
    @btchhopperou812 Рік тому +1

    I kind of had an idea where this was going to go because my son swapped out the truck manifold for a fast manifold and the results are very similar. One thing I believe I noticed, or maybe it was in my head, but did anyone else seem to observe the fast manifold and larger throttle body made it louder? Perhaps it was just me or varying placement of the microphone or did I observe the setup becoming louder with the fast? No big deal either way as most people really don't mind a little bit of extra noise if the performance is increased as advertised. Thanks for the test Richard!

  • @jimmyford271
    @jimmyford271 Рік тому +1

    I love watching your videos they make want to try new things on my Challenger. Richard I would love to see this test done with the gen 3 hemi and eagle heads running comps 201-428-17 cam to compare the Charger/ Challenger intake to the Holley intake.

  • @smiller225
    @smiller225 Рік тому +1

    2016 and 2017 mustang gt injectors fit a fast manifold and rail with just a o ring change

  • @davidncw4613
    @davidncw4613 4 години тому +1

    ty

  • @benmclean2291
    @benmclean2291 Рік тому +1

    Another awesome video 👍👍

  • @kalui96
    @kalui96 Рік тому +3

    I wonder if shaving all the extra stuff growing out of the Truck Intake would make it look cool

    • @Borderline5440
      @Borderline5440 Рік тому +3

      It does not. Shaved truck intakes look like ass.

  • @marcs8563
    @marcs8563 Рік тому +3

    Be interesting to see the results on a 6.0 or 6.2 with a truck manifold vs the lsxrt manifold

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      LSXRT MAKES THE SAME POWER AS LSXR-SEE THE BIG INTAKE TEST VIDEO (RUN ON A 6.0L)

    • @button-puncher
      @button-puncher Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 Is it essentially that same intake manifold? Same runner length? Just different TB locations to clear the belt drive in each application?

  • @seanb250
    @seanb250 Рік тому +1

    My take away is that again cfm demand has told the story, the Fast manifold was more efficient in letting the heads flow their potential with the given lift of the camshaft 👍

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      you spelled intake design and reflected wave incorrectly

    • @seanb250
      @seanb250 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 no I didn’t, it’s spelt “efficient” 🤷‍♂️

  • @timscroggins2345
    @timscroggins2345 Рік тому +1

    Great show sir

  • @polishedturdspeedshop
    @polishedturdspeedshop Рік тому +1

    I am starting to say WAAAAAA watching other videos, and scoffing with a WRONG CAM outloud when I see a build that looks silly....so i guess thanks Richard? ;)

  • @toddclark332
    @toddclark332 Рік тому +1

    Richard have a fantastic Christmas buddy see you 😁💙♥️

  • @GETLITUP69
    @GETLITUP69 Рік тому +2

    Just use spacers with stock fuel rail.

  • @Kaus5221
    @Kaus5221 7 місяців тому +1

    High tech steam vent delete!

  • @TexasStormHunter
    @TexasStormHunter Рік тому +1

    Great video, you definitely should have included the gen4/tbss intake in the test though.

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 Рік тому

      He has done that test already, in his previous videos.

    • @TexasStormHunter
      @TexasStormHunter Рік тому

      @@allanb3222 on a more heavily modified 6.0. It's not exactly the same.

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 Рік тому

      @@TexasStormHunter He did it on a 5.3 as well.

  • @matthewneil2987
    @matthewneil2987 Рік тому +1

    I'm assuming it would be even more of a gain on similar build 6.0 litre.
    I'd like to see if a heatshield under the manifold would make a difference like the internet says it is

  • @joshuacoomes6388
    @joshuacoomes6388 Рік тому +2

    Ever test the stock smaller throttle body on something like this or the TBSS just to see what happens? It would be nice to see if there is a loss of power between the two since it is expensive to go with an aftermarket throttle body or OBD Link adapter harness.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      the stock tbss tb is dbw

    • @joshuacoomes6388
      @joshuacoomes6388 Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I know. I meant that the 3 and 4 bolt throttle bodies aren't electrically interchangeable and require an X-Link to make them work. The DBC guys have to run an cheap adapter or an expensive aftermarket throttle body with known Idle issues. I am going to run the TBSS manifold on my 03 6.0 w/ DBW, and use the 3 to 4 bolt adapter. I am just curious if there is HP left on the table with the stock, smaller throttle body. Thanks for the reply.

  • @seanbragg1696
    @seanbragg1696 Рік тому +1

    Like I said before intake mods make more power now a 6pack ported TBIs is in order think the magic gain will be in the 40hp range n/a and better coil near plug

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      what is a 6 pack ported tbi?

    • @seanbragg1696
      @seanbragg1696 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 TBIs with butterfly porting so they match and are flowing better than stock and venturi effect

  • @wydopnthrtl
    @wydopnthrtl Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the vid & reporting!
    The more of these I watch... I just keep thinking my 04Z06 would do best by keeping it stock and adding a centrifugal blower. The bottom end TQ will only increase and the top end will greatly increase.

  • @bluecollarhotrods9781
    @bluecollarhotrods9781 Рік тому +3

    So glad that you talked about the timing and fuel adjustments. Great test once again. You're actually the person who talked me into a FAST LSXRT through your videos.
    However, now I am on the fence... do I use my ported cathedral port heads and FAST LSXRT? Or use my recently acquired LS3 heads with a rec port truck intake? I'm pretty sure I could sell the PRC Stg 2.5s and FAST pretty easily. Regardless of what I use, I'll be buying a camshaft - so that is a wash.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +2

      if you have ported cath heads-keep those with a fast

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 I do, they are PRC Stg 2.5 ported 706/862 castings.

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 Рік тому

      Cathedral gang!!! That fast is a baaad unit. Yes I bought a new one but I understand it’s not for everyone. Thanks Richard

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 Рік тому +1

      @@baby-sharkgto4902 I bought a new one as well, got a crackhead deal on it. It was hard to say no.

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 Рік тому +1

      @@bluecollarhotrods9781 nice! They work great

  • @richardkamowski4656
    @richardkamowski4656 Рік тому +1

    I had a fast 102 on my boosted 383 ls , great intake but it kept leaking water, ended replacing it with a btr intake ,

  • @Chips_213
    @Chips_213 Рік тому +3

    Test the $60 ls intake manifold from eBay it’s a truck intake manifold looks like the truck dorman one

  • @chipcurrey653
    @chipcurrey653 Рік тому +1

    Please test vband versus t4 exhaust housing....like VS racing .96 t4 against .96 v band. Matt happel made a comment on a recent video that v band makes greatly reduced power due to reduced compressor housing volume

  • @GETLITUP69
    @GETLITUP69 Рік тому +1

    Hey Richard..I have a test you could do that no one has ever done. FAST 102..mixed with Long and Mid range Runners... would take a little modification but would be very interesting

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      already did that test

    • @GETLITUP69
      @GETLITUP69 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 Fast 102 mixed with Mid and Long has not been done. I believe you did the Carbon TA one. Just an Idea.

  • @turbhoeheflin1168
    @turbhoeheflin1168 Рік тому +1

    I’m sure it’s been said, but I really wish you could have done a Tbss manifold with same throttle body.

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 5 днів тому

    Show a decent cam, factory intake, decent fuel, 450+ HP & 400+ Torque. $1,000 Fast needs more fuel, higher RPM and made 480+ HP and 418 torque at higher RPM. Total comparison is what. $1,000 from wallet, more stops at gas station to gain 30HP & 18Torque at higher RPM.
    I will keep the truck intake cleaned up in my 57 year old truck on my 5.3L iron block and keep the $1k in a nice paint job! Thank you kindly for your blistering low gains for so much extra coin! But that my needs. Yours may be more is better. Wait for retirement and let’s see what you build then.

  • @randyrichardson4364
    @randyrichardson4364 Рік тому +1

    was hoping for the early truck intake AND the tbss intake vs the fast lsxr.

  • @sambert96
    @sambert96 Рік тому +2

    I gained 45 to the wheels on my old heads cam 5.7 build switching from a ls1 intake to the fast. Big gains. The square port one isn't worth it. Only buy it if you have cathedral heads

    • @gofastparts4u
      @gofastparts4u Рік тому +1

      The original LS1 intake sucks. The only thing worse is the LS4. A stock early truck intake blows the LS1 intake out of the water.

    • @sambert96
      @sambert96 Рік тому +1

      @gofastparts4u agree. I didn't believe it was worth 1200$ but it sure was. It's now on my 383 making 570 to the wheels

  • @C6Z_Bob
    @C6Z_Bob Рік тому +1

    With bigger displacement, a bigger cam, and better cylinder heads, it's well worth it IMO. My heads/cam/intake 5.7 beat up on a lot of cars that didn't expect it

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Рік тому

      Start with a Truck Norris cam and go from there. Just to go from a Gen 3 to Gen 4 Truck intake is a lot of time and money.

  • @detroitamerson
    @detroitamerson Рік тому +1

    This is not a TBSS style intake. The later model TBSS or Dorman of it Richard has proven is a better intake than the old style one. Id like to see that test against the Fast one

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      PLEASE SEE THE MANY TBSS INTAKE TESTS (EVEN 1 VIDEO WITH FAST VS TBSS VS TRUCK)

  • @jrrivers4140
    @jrrivers4140 Рік тому +1

    Trying to decide on a rod mod and ported tb. Or just taking it in the bank and getting a fast 102 and tb. Bolt on ls2 with a Norris cam made 438 wheel 480tq

  • @evilinside5984
    @evilinside5984 Рік тому +2

    I noticed when tb was open all the way @ 5:11 into video, @ 5:14 closes slightly, and stays there, have you noticed this, or does that cause variations/power loses?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      you are seeing things

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 Yes, Im seeing things that are actually happening. Did you go back and watch this same video, @ the times i previously mentioned? You did not see the angle change to the throttle body blade? Please take a closer look, between 5:11 and 5:15 into this video. I just showed someone else, and they seen the throttle body blade change its angle aswell.

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher Рік тому +1

    I can't wait until we can 3D print an intake manifold. I understand R&D costs but how FAST charges a grand for an injection molded piece of plastic seems insane to me. If they charged four hundred they'd sell three times as many and make more money.

  • @jeffpistritto9524
    @jeffpistritto9524 Рік тому +1

    Have you ever done a traditional old school roots blower on gen3 hemi ? Maybe vs other superchargers / blowers

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn Рік тому +1

    I have to go back to your old cathedral port intake manifold test and see how badly the TBSS manifold beats the gen 3 truck manifold... And then there's the topic of how much is the throttle body worth in this power range/how big of a TB can you fit on a TBSS manifold with a bit of porting, or a reasonable adapter..

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha Рік тому +1

      I think the Gen 3 truck manifold was 78mm and the Gen 4 truck manifold 87mm. You can fit a ls2 or LS3/7 90mm (some say it's 92mm after porting) throttle body depending on what color blade you have silver blade 07-08 or gold blade 09-14

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Рік тому

      A lot of time and money just to get the Gen 4 intake to work on a Gen 3 truck.

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn Рік тому

      @@shadowopsairman1583 It has nothing to do with a truck for me.

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn Рік тому

      @@DeathStalkerAlpha Interesting, thanks!

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Рік тому +1

    Ever tried a edelbrock cross ram on one of these using the adapters? I know that manifold has done very well in all the testing I have seen of it. I wondered if the transitions of shape really hurt it that bad.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      YES-THOSE TESTS ARE UP-BUT THAT INTAKE WAS FOR A REC-PORT HEAD-SEE THE LS3 INTAKE TEST VIDEO

    • @bcbloc02
      @bcbloc02 Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 Yes I have seen your testing with it before, was just wondeing if you had ever run one adapted back to the old engines to see if it still worked well or if the adapting killed its performance.

  • @coboscustoms4342
    @coboscustoms4342 Рік тому +1

    I was really hoping you would have thrown in an overlay of the tbss manifold with those two

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      usually more than truck but less than fast

    • @coboscustoms4342
      @coboscustoms4342 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 yeah I understand that. Anything smaller than a 6.0 I tell everybody not to even bother changing the manifold unless they have a massive cam

  • @MrMechanicandy
    @MrMechanicandy Рік тому +1

    I don’t find much info on the 5.3 ls in impala ss on its intake do you have any idea if it cathedral and what kind of power loss you get using it thanks great show by the way .

  • @n2oracer84
    @n2oracer84 Рік тому +2

    How would an LS6 intake with ported throttle body fair in this comparison?

    • @goat_life254
      @goat_life254 Рік тому +1

      Exactly what I want to know. I have the ls6 on my 04 gto and if it’s over 20hp gain that’s worth it.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      ls6 should be like or just below tbss-so between these two

  • @kyleorsak
    @kyleorsak Рік тому +1

    id like to see the fast lsxr vs the new holley ultra low ram. i know they tested all the holley intakes with each other the the ultra low ram wasnt too bad compared to the high ram. i have a stock hood i want to clear so its either a fast intake or the ultra low ram

    • @Cowboy.underwater
      @Cowboy.underwater Рік тому +2

      Unless you plan on shifting well past 8,000 RPM, The fast manifold will have a WAY better power curve than the low ram.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +2

      a low ram won't even be close-til very high rpm (above 7000)

  • @benjaminwillard2394
    @benjaminwillard2394 6 місяців тому +1

    start at 10 minutes and 45 seconds

  • @speedtweaked2540
    @speedtweaked2540 Рік тому +1

    Have you done a test with running a 78 vs 87 vs 90 vs 92 vs 102mm (or some combination) of throttle body’s on that Fast intake. I’d be curious if say you swapped from a TBSS to a Fast and could save some coin by running the factory TB if going to the 102 wasn’t necessary to maximize your application.

  • @blindguygarage
    @blindguygarage Рік тому +1

    I have some sort of ported heads on a 5-3 truck intake still working on getting HP tuner to fix the tune has a BTR stage 3 camshaft do you have a video with the fast intake on that setup something with upgraded heads and intake but not Pistons bottom end all that kind of stuff. This build is going to definitely be stages my next major purchase if any would be the Trailblazer SS setup flex fuel unless you say that's not worth it before a turbo

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      this was a cammed 5.3L with a fast-both numbers would be up slightly with properly ported heads

    • @blindguygarage
      @blindguygarage Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 I guess then what would be your expectations of a good tune on a 5-3 with properly ported heads the stage 3 Brian Tilley Truck cam and stock injectors fuel pump air intake I was thinking ones properly tuned 450 crank 300 wheel? 2500 stall converter stage one 4l60 GM performance. Shorty headers okay let the converters.

  • @trevermonk8575
    @trevermonk8575 Рік тому +1

    Would have been cool to see it with the nbss/tbss intake, I'm sure you've done the test in some shape or form

    • @chandlerlofton6536
      @chandlerlofton6536 Рік тому +1

      I agree, I have a ported TBSS on my 408, and I wonder what I’m leaving on the table.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      WATCH THE BIG CATH INTAKE TEST VIDEO

    • @trevermonk8575
      @trevermonk8575 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 sorry i should have said that you've probably shown us that test in the past. thanks!

  • @hheidrick
    @hheidrick Рік тому +1

    Shouldn’t we all think about max. Torque and HP in a normal operating range? If you are getting maximum HP and torque in a rpm range you don’t get a vehicle in why search for and spend the money?

  • @steezyg35
    @steezyg35 Рік тому +1

    So is there a better looking option over the stock ones that achieves the same power?

  • @DSRE535
    @DSRE535 Рік тому +1

    That throttle body looked ported on the stock truck intake, I know because mine looked very similar, who knows if it’s worth power

  • @bradp9938
    @bradp9938 Рік тому +4

    Not worth it in my opinion. Alot of extra steps and money, when you could just do a ported tbss and 90mm tb. There are also fitment issues with the stock 4 corner steam vent with the fast intake.

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Рік тому

      There is a lot of Time and money just to get the Gen 4 intake to work on a Gen 3 Truck.

    • @bradp9938
      @bradp9938 Рік тому

      @@shadowopsairman1583 not if you buy used or go to a junkyard. You don't see many used lsxr intakes, let alone in a junkyard.

  • @Harris715
    @Harris715 Рік тому +1

    I know Richard tested a 102 vs 92 throttle body on a FAST 102 intake, but I’m curious what the difference is between a FAST 92 and FAST 102 intake. I’ve only been able to find tests comparing the old FAST 78 and the FAST 102. The only reason I care is because it’s my understanding that my stock LS1 fuel rails will bolt up to the FAST 92, but I will need LS2 rails with the FAST 102.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      I HAVE A VIDEO UP ON 92 VS 102

    • @Harris715
      @Harris715 Рік тому +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I guess I’m no good at Google or something. ua-cam.com/video/ZO6iQRes74E/v-deo.html This is the only 92 vs 102 video of yours I can find which, when I wrote my comment last night, I thought you had run on a FAST 102 intake. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction for a FAST 92 intake test?

  • @jimreal3840
    @jimreal3840 Рік тому +1

    Any difference w no air filters,to having one....

  • @thinkingmanhillbilly
    @thinkingmanhillbilly Рік тому +1

    What's the biggest throttle body you can fit on the truck manifold can you open it up and put a bigger one on it I wonder how much difference there would be then

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha Рік тому

      90mm off the Corvettes LS2 silver blade and LS3/7 gold blade I haven't seen much gains on anyone that's done it, just quicker response.

  • @Justls1v8parts
    @Justls1v8parts Рік тому +1

    Morning Richard
    On my 5.7ls1 would a tbss truck manifold work height is not an issue hood wise.
    From your videos the tbss is better than the ls6?.
    What is the throttle body size also on the tbss.
    Thank-you
    Aaron.

  • @myfastcars
    @myfastcars Рік тому +1

    If, you hand ported the stock truck intake, would that close the FAST Intake increase gap????

  • @scottbarrera6860
    @scottbarrera6860 Рік тому +1

    Looking for a intake manifold for my Sierra 2500hd which one would you recommend

  • @mitchelgonzales86
    @mitchelgonzales86 4 дні тому +1

    😂 dude's awesome 👍😎

  • @J.Steele7
    @J.Steele7 Рік тому +1

    Richard I’ll try to catch you in a live but I need someone smarter than me to answer this pondering thought. In a bbc tall deck block could I use a 3.76 stroke with a very long rod would this be counter intuitive? I’m looking at a 477 4.5 bore 3.76 stroke. I know valve train is the limit to rpm but I want to eliminate any detriment to engine speed.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT-ESPECIALLY WITH A 3.76 STROKE

    • @J.Steele7
      @J.Steele7 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 too short of stroke for a tall deck? Or the short stroke doesn’t help

  • @dforest8539
    @dforest8539 Рік тому +2

    I'm looking for a efi ls3 duel plain intake.. I want the torque power

    • @TexasStormHunter
      @TexasStormHunter Рік тому

      The truck manifold will make more torque than a dual plane.

  • @t.j.johnson7026
    @t.j.johnson7026 Рік тому +2

    You would see better gains by taking 150-200lbs off of your truck AND it wouldn't cost you $1000. By the way, you are included in this weight so if you are a fatty and lose a lot of weight then your vehicle will accelerate faster.

  • @methodical_66
    @methodical_66 Рік тому +1

    Doesn't the lsxr require that a hole be drilled for the MAP sensor?

  • @88RSI
    @88RSI Рік тому +1

    What was the gains for the valve train & cam upgrade and at what cost? How much would a shop charge to do a cam swap?

  • @Dooguy
    @Dooguy Рік тому +1

    so im middle of the road herer.....having a pretty decent texas cam, with ls6 intake,long tubes in a manual BUT stock 243 heads. Would i be wasting money going to the 102? or would or should do head work along with the intake swap?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      LS6 INTAKE WON'T ACCEPT A 102 TB

    • @Dooguy
      @Dooguy Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727i understand that, just asking if i went all in with the upgrade intake and TB , would it be a waste of money with stock 243's thanks

  • @DStout92
    @DStout92 9 місяців тому +1

    What did you figure for the lsxr102 manifold volume?

  • @rene7500
    @rene7500 Рік тому +1

    I have a 5.3 lm7 with TSP 216/220 stage 3 camshaft. 1 7/8 long tube headers that turn into 3 inch exhaust straight out to the back bumper. LS7 lifters and springs kit and a new oil pump...K &N filter of course With a custom tune from the shop that I had do the install. I am asking for your advice on what size LSXRT intake I should get. What's the best combo for what I currently have done on my truck. I know there is a sweet spot between to much air flow and a little restriction. Your the master bro! Tell me what's up. And also if I do the LSXRT install myself will it need to be re-tuned? Should I also get a new fuel rail and injectors if there is a kit that LSxRT comes with ?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому +1

      the lsxr or rt version make the same power-get the 102mm version

    • @rene7500
      @rene7500 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 thank you!

    • @ricksmash8080
      @ricksmash8080 Місяць тому

      @@richardholdener1727same question but I have the stage 2 cam, and I haul a trailer. What intake will give me the best low end torque? And if a new manifold isn’t the best way to do it what is? Thanks for these videos Richard!

  • @stephenhodge6441
    @stephenhodge6441 Рік тому +1

    Ok someone get me up to speed here. I really don't know much about cathedral port intakes. I know you have the LS1 and LS6 for the car style intakes. And for the truck intakes there is the Trail Blazer SS intake and.... This is where I'm lost. Are all other cathedral port truck intakes the same? 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 Gen 3, and 4.8 and 5.3 gen 4?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Рік тому

      early truck

    • @stephenhodge6441
      @stephenhodge6441 Рік тому

      @@richardholdener1727 can you elaborate? The one you tested was early truck? And what would be the difference in early and late truck?

  • @detonationpyrotechnics4156
    @detonationpyrotechnics4156 Рік тому +1

    The only way that fast manifold should be used is with a built engine. The gain is not worth it for a stock block

  • @timcartwright4679
    @timcartwright4679 Рік тому +1

    Story would be very different on a stroker with decent heads. Not really it's intended application.