Also, think about all the trouble they have getting the birds to fly. They have a near perfect setup with propellers on the floor to keep them from landing, but in the myth its just one guy banging on the side of the truck. No way that would get any birds to stay flying.
I tried it once when moving chickens in a Ford Connect. I piled them in the back but the load bulkhead only went about half way to the roof. All was well until I had to do an emergency stop. They all squawked and were thrown into the front where in fright they emptied their bowels everywhere. I and the dashboard of my van was covered in stinking excrement that was difficult to remove. Moral. Never try and cut corners even if only travelling about two miles. A bad experience for everyone.
If you have seen the truck full of chickens of pigeons or small birds they're usually in cages about 7 birds or 8 stacked one on top of each other what they probably thought then was If I bang on the cage Les
yeah, about that.... when a customs agent on the port knows there is ppl in a shipping container they'll knock and if the people is alive inside they'll knock back and the customs agent will open the container slightly to let some air in until his back up arrives, but if there is no knock then he'll just keep it seal and put in the call for the corner office and CSI... sometimes when truck drivers know they're transporting ppl in the container (its illegal) what they'll do is stop every few hundred miles and knock on the container, if they knock back then the driver is all good but if there is no knock then the driver leaves the truck at the side of the road and runs away (its why 90% of the time you see a news story of ppl being smuggled in a container and they die due to not enough air the truck is almost always parked on the side of the road abandoned)
Actually at 30:48 you can see a demonstration of Newton’s first law of motion, even though the steering wheels are turning, the boat continues on an almost straight line. If you want a massive object to do that turn, you’re going to need a lot more force than the trailer wheels friction on the runway, like say…🤔 the water on a boat keel, bending ito the turn on much larger radius.🤷🏻♂️
Quite right. Even if the runway had been dry, it still would have understeered and continued straight on. I’m glad they revisited this and put it on water.
The birds "myth" is easily solved with a Free Body Diagram. There's no external force holding the birds up, so there's no decrease in the weight. The boat is more of a problem: they might not need a turn at the end for two reasons: First, the full-scale boat has much more mass in the bow so it's harder to deflect. And second, WATER would tend to hold the boat on course far better than air, so the boat would glance off as easily.
the birds myth can also be explained by something called "trucker pills".... back in the early days "trucker pills" was sold in gas stations (this was to help keep truckers awake and focused) these "trucker pills" was basically meth and if you ever saw someone tweaking on meth they would always be banging on something like a wall or door....
At 80-90 mph I don't think the passengers would leave the scene with "minor injuries" as stated in the news article. The trio's tackling of the boat myth left me with more questions than answers.
This is why I love the earlier seasons. It shows the members frustrations when doing tests, it gives you that feeling, that the myths they are testing aren't simply made for TV shows, but they more are aimed of proving the myth. Later seasons, they lost that touch.
The TV was crazy with the commercials. Something's about to happen and then cut to an ad break and then you get a 1 minute recap leading back up to th point where it's about tp happen again
11:58 its interesting Grant says this here because in the alcatraz myth episode, Jamie and Adam go to the scale model of the San Francisco Bay to see where the currents could have taken the escapees. I guess the bay model was built with the unproporitionality at miniature scale in mind and corrected for ?
You can tell by the leaning of the boat to the left in the picture that the driver at some point turned hard to the left to get the boat to lean on its left side and into the pole. Too bad they didn't see or point that out.
i feel like the boat myth would’ve made more sense on the water because boat more drift into turn in the water so in an emergency situation it would’ve been turned hard and been rotating to the right while still moving forwar
ohh really if the boat just hit head on that will do the trick and also put it in the water a boat behaves differently in water vs thin air ...i have experienced that first hand just a glancing blow and it destroyed the port side of the boat also penetrating up to the front of the wheel house thats how i nearly get being the recued instead of rescuing
Biflicated boat needs re-thinking because theory is not correct. a boat on water is less likely to deflect, thus all forward force is used to split boat. Mind you, I doubt if a 17 foot split would be the norm.
Another thing they didn't think about that in the closed container if you try to lift the helicopter the wind circulation inside it's going to make it go crazy should have got a professional
The boat not being in water was so stupid, the Hull water Beyoncey would have been the most important thing for the whole thing to be recreated correctly, with the side load of the water acting correctly. Stupid team.
I think the only way you could make the trailer lighter would be using an airship and not a helicopter. Because airship works by displacing air, it wouldn't push the air downwards against the trailer. The problem with helicopter (or pigeons) is that they fly by pushing air against the trailer so that they produce lift. One more thing about the speedboat - I think the driver lied about the speed so that he doesn't have problems with the insurance company and the law.
But what about an open trailer? If a bird flies by and lands on the trailer, it will become heavier. How open does it need to be? Is a window enough? Would a cage work? E.g. if the floor was a net, there would be next to no downwards force acting on the trailer.
Helicopters don't fly by pushing air down! they use the same lift mechanics as a plane wing, creating a low pressure zone above the rotors which holds the aircraft up due to the higher pressure underneath. I'm not saying they don't push any air down, but it's not the way they stay up in the air.
I thought helicopters would fly based on the same principle as propellers on a plane. I see the chopper prop generating lift like a plane wing but they also really generate a downward wind. I think they more closely ressemble a plane propeller than simply a wing and by changing the angle of attack you change how much air is accelerated through the blades, more accelerated air equals bigger reaction force, the plane moves forward, and the helicopters move up. The propellers looks like a wing but it isn't lift that solely able to make the helicopters fly. Their propellers are flexible because of their massive size, they can't support their own weight on the tip, they sag a little when parked, so I don't think they can sustain the weight of the full helicopter to allow flight.
Surely their attempt to catch pigeons in "the wild" was just a joke. Even if they were able to catch them, that's a real good way to get sick ... Haha.
In my opinion the bigger problem with the bird myth is what kind of maniac drives around with a truck full of loose birds
Also, think about all the trouble they have getting the birds to fly.
They have a near perfect setup with propellers on the floor to keep them from landing, but in the myth its just one guy banging on the side of the truck.
No way that would get any birds to stay flying.
I tried it once when moving chickens in a Ford Connect. I piled them in the back but the load bulkhead only went about half way to the roof. All was well until I had to do an emergency stop. They all squawked and were thrown into the front where in fright they emptied their bowels everywhere. I and the dashboard of my van was covered in stinking excrement that was difficult to remove. Moral. Never try and cut corners even if only travelling about two miles. A bad experience for everyone.
If you have seen the truck full of chickens of pigeons or small birds they're usually in cages about 7 birds or 8 stacked one on top of each other what they probably thought then was If I bang on the cage Les
yeah, about that.... when a customs agent on the port knows there is ppl in a shipping container they'll knock and if the people is alive inside they'll knock back and the customs agent will open the container slightly to let some air in until his back up arrives, but if there is no knock then he'll just keep it seal and put in the call for the corner office and CSI... sometimes when truck drivers know they're transporting ppl in the container (its illegal) what they'll do is stop every few hundred miles and knock on the container, if they knock back then the driver is all good but if there is no knock then the driver leaves the truck at the side of the road and runs away (its why 90% of the time you see a news story of ppl being smuggled in a container and they die due to not enough air the truck is almost always parked on the side of the road abandoned)
I think it's common for chickens!
Interesting to see how hard it was to fly those radio controlled helicopters compared to the drones we have today.
microelectronics have done wonders
Speaking from experience, it's hard and fucking expensive.
it still hard to fly a drone in a close system like the truck since the air go all quacky
Actually at 30:48 you can see a demonstration of Newton’s first law of motion, even though the steering wheels are turning, the boat continues on
an almost straight line. If you want a massive object to do that turn, you’re going to need a lot more force than the trailer wheels friction on the runway, like say…🤔 the water on a boat keel, bending ito the turn on much larger radius.🤷🏻♂️
Quite right. Even if the runway had been dry, it still would have understeered and continued straight on.
I’m glad they revisited this and put it on water.
The birds "myth" is easily solved with a Free Body Diagram. There's no external force holding the birds up, so there's no decrease in the weight.
The boat is more of a problem: they might not need a turn at the end for two reasons: First, the full-scale boat has much more mass in the bow so it's harder to deflect. And second, WATER would tend to hold the boat on course far better than air, so the boat would glance off as easily.
the birds myth can also be explained by something called "trucker pills".... back in the early days "trucker pills" was sold in gas stations (this was to help keep truckers awake and focused) these "trucker pills" was basically meth and if you ever saw someone tweaking on meth they would always be banging on something like a wall or door....
I don't think, the dry test for the boat is comparable to the real thing: They're completely missing the drag of the water as well as the inertia.
At 80-90 mph I don't think the passengers would leave the scene with "minor injuries" as stated in the news article.
The trio's tackling of the boat myth left me with more questions than answers.
This is why I love the earlier seasons. It shows the members frustrations when doing tests, it gives you that feeling, that the myths they are testing aren't simply made for TV shows, but they more are aimed of proving the myth. Later seasons, they lost that touch.
The TV was crazy with the commercials. Something's about to happen and then cut to an ad break and then you get a 1 minute recap leading back up to th point where it's about tp happen again
Could you please upload the HD version
They did not take the resistance of the sideways pressure of the water into account when running the boat test on land.
Oh and it might have been easier to run the POLE into the BOAT rather than vice versa.
Birds get transported in small dark boxes so that they dont injure themselfs and they also just dont fly in the dark.
the attempts for splitting the boat were not where the boat in the pic hit the post. they only ever grazed the side of the boat
it worries me a bit that the rotating bird scarers would cause minor wright shifts on the super sensitive load sensors.
the boat out of water is probably easier to move to the side ...
Ehm, boats always have nautical miles an hour. That adds a bit to "only 25 mph". Could that make the difference between crash and whoops split?
I’m confident that of this was done today, the birds will be tested first with drones.
11:58 its interesting Grant says this here because in the alcatraz myth episode, Jamie and Adam go to the scale model of the San Francisco Bay to see where the currents could have taken the escapees. I guess the bay model was built with the unproporitionality at miniature scale in mind and corrected for ?
If it's all the same to you, I really miss the MythBusters when it ended it felt like the end of an era.
Grant Kari and Tori also did a great job.
You can tell by the leaning of the boat to the left in the picture that the driver at some point turned hard to the left to get the boat to lean on its left side and into the pole. Too bad they didn't see or point that out.
Or it was due to water flooding in through the gash...
i feel like the boat myth would’ve made more sense on the water because boat more drift into turn in the water so in an emergency situation it would’ve been turned hard and been rotating to the right while still moving forwar
20:45 lol
ohh really if the boat just hit head on that will do the trick and also put it in the water a boat behaves differently in water vs thin air ...i have experienced that first hand just a glancing blow and it destroyed the port side of the boat also penetrating up to the front of the wheel house thats how i nearly get being the recued instead of rescuing
no free lunch here.. hmm maybe put that , in your next payment negotiasion 😅
Tory looked so sad when the others smahed the small scale boats.
RIP smol Boat hope you are in a better place now
10 $20 drones would be done now.
This is season 5. This whole playlist is season 5 not 4
25 statute miles or nautical miles?? 25 knots?
Biflicated boat needs re-thinking because theory is not correct. a boat on water is less likely to deflect, thus all forward force is used to split boat. Mind you, I doubt if a 17 foot split would be the norm.
Well, only thing to split a boat in half is rocket sled
Another thing they didn't think about that in the closed container if you try to lift the helicopter the wind circulation inside it's going to make it go crazy should have got a professional
What if you add birds into the space to fly around? Does the weight increase?
It won't, in space there is no air to push so they wouldn't be able to fly. Also if you want the birds to be alive you should not put them in space 😉
Yeah, eventually it would.
Yeah, basic fail, the amount of down force is equal to the lift of birds, so there is no change
The boat not being in water was so stupid, the Hull water Beyoncey would have been the most important thing for the whole thing to be recreated correctly, with the side load of the water acting correctly. Stupid team.
horrible animal abuse in here. shows how stupid and unnecessary it is to experiment on animals
I think the only way you could make the trailer lighter would be using an airship and not a helicopter. Because airship works by displacing air, it wouldn't push the air downwards against the trailer. The problem with helicopter (or pigeons) is that they fly by pushing air against the trailer so that they produce lift. One more thing about the speedboat - I think the driver lied about the speed so that he doesn't have problems with the insurance company and the law.
But what about an open trailer? If a bird flies by and lands on the trailer, it will become heavier. How open does it need to be? Is a window enough? Would a cage work? E.g. if the floor was a net, there would be next to no downwards force acting on the trailer.
Helicopters don't fly by pushing air down! they use the same lift mechanics as a plane wing, creating a low pressure zone above the rotors which holds the aircraft up due to the higher pressure underneath. I'm not saying they don't push any air down, but it's not the way they stay up in the air.
I thought helicopters would fly based on the same principle as propellers on a plane. I see the chopper prop generating lift like a plane wing but they also really generate a downward wind.
I think they more closely ressemble a plane propeller than simply a wing and by changing the angle of attack you change how much air is accelerated through the blades, more accelerated air equals bigger reaction force, the plane moves forward, and the helicopters move up.
The propellers looks like a wing but it isn't lift that solely able to make the helicopters fly. Their propellers are flexible because of their massive size, they can't support their own weight on the tip, they sag a little when parked, so I don't think they can sustain the weight of the full helicopter to allow flight.
Surely their attempt to catch pigeons in "the wild" was just a joke. Even if they were able to catch them, that's a real good way to get sick ... Haha.
Is this a joke to see who is that just ... SMH lol
I think this episode might low key be animal abuse...