I shoot F-PR and hunt with the 6.5PRC in a CA MPR. Typically I use the 147 grain ELD-M with retumbo and adg brass. Probably the most versatile cartridge out there imo.
Load development is my favorite part! I reload all of our hunting ammo and i use a 260 rem and 6.5 Grendel. I love the 6.5 caliber cartridges! Hopefully will do a reloading video or two on our channel in the future!
@Down N Out Outdoors I’ve only ever shot deer with them, but with what I’ve seen I wouldn’t hesitate to use them on a mature bull out 400+ yrds. I’m using RL 26 and I’ve been very happy with it. Hope those Bergers work well for ya.
I just got the CZ 600 Alpha Black in 6.5 PRC about a month ago and so far the worst group I've got was 1.29 inches with most groups being between .25 inches and .75 inches. Have tried 4 factory loads so far and the best two groups were with Hornady 147 grain ELD Match and the Hornady 143 grain Precision Hunter with both groups looking like a perfect little 3 leaf clover at 100 yards measured with a Leopold lazer range finder from muzzle to target.
Yep I'm using my 6.5prc for hunting, I've taken black bear, mule deer, moose, WT with it shooting 143eldx. Planning on doing more of that this year and adding goat, and elk all with my new 156 eol load i worked up.
I did the same 2 years ago. Had 3 surgeries this last 12 months and one was to remove my kidney with Cancer. Doing treatments now for cancer but recovering and ready to hunt if I draw Deer, Antalope , or Sheeo in Nevada with 6.5 PRC. 338 win mag is my Elk gun if I draw.
Literally anything 6.5mm (.264) is a pure pleasure to shoot. My 6.5 Grendel, CZ-527 using hand-load 120 grain Barnes-X atop 31.0 grains of Hodgdon LEVERevolution produces 2585 fps and delivers 5-shot groups under 3/4-inch at 100-yards with frightening regularity. The Mini-Mauser action is stiff and smooth, weighing in at just 7 pounds with a Leupold 2x7-33mm scope. It is easy to carry in the back county all day and will not beat up the shooter. It's been a long time coming since the 6.5x55mm Swede and the .264 Winchester hit the market. But it's pretty safe to say that the American shooter has finally warmed up to this outstanding caliber in a very big way.... ^~^
It's amazing how far this channel has come, I've been around here for around or more than a decade with a few different accounts. I'm always glad to see this channel growing and to see this new and great content. The rifle builds are great too!!!
I just shot my 6.5 PRC for the first time yesterday. I got the cheapest one on the market! Mossberg Patriot Predator. I averaged .86 for my groups with Hornady Hunter and Match ammo with my best at .334. Really like this caliber and looks to be my blind, spot and stock and long range hunting round. My .308 is my tree stand round now.
I have a custom 6.5 PRC (Saltzman Gun works) I love it. With someone who isn’t great at wind calls, this helps me not suck so much. The brass is hard to find, I’m loading US869 and Berger VLD 140gr.
I just bought a Franchi Momentum Elite in 6.5 PRC. Trigger pull from factory set at 2 lbs., 9 ounces. Didn't need a bed job according to gunsmith, from factory pretty tight, shaved some off left side stock channel, and took radial brake off, and put a stainless steel side discharge brake on, cerakoted to factory midnight bronze cerakote to match. Plan to use this in Wyoming for Antelope and Mule deer. I believe it has a 1 in 7 twist rate, 24 inch barrel. Would love to use these Bergers on Elk!
Working on load development know. Running a Bergara Highlander in 6.5 PRC. Started with factory 143ELDx and was super impressed with the accuracy. Under 1/2 MOA at 100 - 200 and 300 yds. But now trying the Barnes 127 LRX. Fun times ahead. Also looking to try the Sierra Game changer 140 gr once they are in stock. Let's hope our Reloading supply shelves are stocked up soon.
I hunted last year with a 6.5 prc and i plan on doing it again this year. I was hunting whitetail deer and was able to harvest a doe about 400 yards from where i was sitting. I stood to retrieve her and slipped off a log and broke my foot . I still made it to the doe and i was able to field dress her while i waited for my buddy to come pick me up because i just couldn't walk anymore. It was a long day and a long 4 months of rehabilitation but i think i will be doing it all over this year...except the whole breaking the foot thing.
I bought a 6.5 PRC barrel for my Big Horn. It’s a hammer, though a slight slower than I’d planned. Still enough for any game I’d be perusing in North America.
Absolutely love my Browning x-bolt, Max long range chambered in 6.5 PRC. I’m wanting to eventually hunt some big game but coyotes for now haven’t stood a chance.
I have a CA Ridgeline in 6.5 PRC with a Vortex Razor AMG on top. I did alot of load work last year with with H1000, H4831sc and RL23. The most consistent and repeatable loads I found so far is with a 140gr Accubond, 50gr of RL23 at 3.325. The speeds where in the 2750 range. The next one was 130gr AB, 50gr of RL23 and 3.315. Those two loads will cloverleaf with the holes touching at 100yrds. The 140gr Partition did real good with H1000 and H4831sc but that needs a bit more work to find consistent CL's. I got a new chrony so I'll play with that this year and see what the different loads will do speed-wise.
Similar Cartridge performance but older.....6.5x284 Norma. Had mine built custom before the PRC was ever heard of. Long action, detachable mag, 8.5 twist. Absolutely Loves the 140 Berger Hunting VLD. 4831 powder, 2975'/sec. At my elevation, that's still 2200'/sec and 1500 ft.lb of energy at 600 yds. It has accomplished my farthest bull elk and my largest whitetail. It also accomplished the smallest group I've ever had, 4 shots covered by a dime at 255 yds.
My load is N565, Hornady brass, Fed 210M and Berger 144 Hybrid. I harvested 2 whitetail last year that dropped instantly. Also took a Coues at 636 yards with Hornady 143 ELD-M ammo. I just ordered a barrel in 1:7.5" twist so I can shoot the 156s.
I put a bartlein m24 26” carbon on a big horn origin action. I’m shooting berger 130 vld hunter. 59 grains of rl26 with magnum match federal primers with Hornady brass. That load is pushing the 130 at 3260fps. I’m in new your and only shoot whitetail deer. My 270 always dropped them with a 130 so figured I wanted as flat a shot I can have. I do shoot deer at long distance. I shoot off tripod almost exclusively unless zeroing. I have a 10” plate at 690 and only need 10.75 moa to be water line on plate. Love the prc. Iv been hunting with prc going on 3rd season and this is my 4th one I have owned and built a couple for friends. I have Travis stevens of TS customs do my chambers.
I liked your comment. I have a ruger m77 long range target it shoots less than half inch groups with factory hornady match. With these 156 bergers 1 hole
I’m shooting a similar but better (IMO) cartridge in the 6.5 WSM topped with the 153 Hornady ATips @ 3185 with average groups of 1.65” at 400 yds. I shot a cow elk last fall at 966 yds and it was spectacular…. Love the channel. Keep up the great work
I’m pushing 140gr Berger VLD Hunting rounds with 54gr of RL26, .057” jump. Averaging a little over 2900fps, yielding 1/2 moa groups. Shooting a Christensen Arms ELR rifle. It’s a great combination. I am planning to try the Vihtavouri N565 when I can get ahold of some. Pretty hard to find right now.
Great vlog Gavin. I shot and reloaded for 6.5 Swede for 20+ years and have always had problems getting good bullets. The Berger really interests me. Happy huntin.
I'm glad you finally posted a vide of this. Most have know idea what their load does for one condition to another. this will be a long post as TV screws the real world conditions. The only shot that counts in hunting is the first. Groups don't matter unless you shoot them in all conditions. Meaning leave the target hang shoot in all conditions years round if you can. What can you do to make a 1/2'' moa from summer to winter? Answer back if you have a reasonable expectation to take a long range shot under all conditions. Educate me why you would do this
The answer is an easy one, practice! You can not expect to sit around all year not practicing and at hunting season pick up your rifle and make that first round hit. You must take the time to learn your system and how it works in the conditions that you could potentially find yourself hunting in. You cannot buy first round hits, you must practice to get them.
I'm shooting a christensen arms ridgeline 6.5 prc. It loves the 140 elite hunter bullet and n560 powder. Getting 3130 mv and .5 moa groups. Shot a mule deer buck this year at 350 yds and he dropped in his tracks absolutely love this round!
My best group with my waypoint was 135gr a tips and n560…3rds…1 perfect.264” hole I can’t measure..I’ve got close to 10 loads developed from 95gr v max to 153a tips..
I'm having great accuracy with both my Seekins Havak and Savage ultralight 6.6PRC. Factory Hornady 143 ELDX and reloads with 55.5 gr. RL26. Both loads and rifles 1/2" at around 2980 fps. The Savage shoots Cutting Edge 140 MTH same powder and load into the same hole! Have shot 3 out of the first 4 3-shot groups in the same hole! One of those was at 200yds!
Great information. How about. A couple of comparisons with some. New slow powders. Equal to retumbo r33 or the enderons. I have a 6.5wsm in mod 70 wsm action. It shoots. 140 Berger’s at 3250-3300 easy not beating it up. 26” kreiger. And has shot lost. 500 1”1/2 groups. Ps my. Retumbo. Supply is running low Thanks for the great stuff you put out.
6.5 PRC is pretty legit but gotta pick the 6.5SAUM 1st. Little bit more punch and who likes to have the same thing as everybody else? Really enjoy your informative videos and the quality content... keep it up!
Thank you for a great video! I have a Sprint field waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC, shooting a Hornady 143 gr. Eld-x not impressed shot a young axis buck at 84 yds and recovered the bullet on the other side hide, I did the deed but I don’t think I would take it with me on a elk or mule deer hunt. I will experiment with the 156 grain Berger bullet and the 127 grain Barnes. Since I had taken many deer with the barnes 110gr. Bullets I inclining to those on a heavier configuation.
The creed guys will negate and say it's a measly 200 fps faster. You are correct, grain to grain it's between 300 to 350. That's a whole hell of a lot when you consider compound bows shoot from 270 to 350 fps an overall grain weight of 125 to 135.
I’m shooting a Christensen Arms Mesa in 6.5 PRC, topped with a Tract Toric 4-20 x 50. As of now I’m just using factory Hornady 143 Gr ELDX for hunting, and the 147gr ELDM for target shooting. Last weekend I shot a 3 shot group with the ELDM, that almost put all three in the same hole. With that performance it would be hard to beat that with reloading.
I’m shooting a Christiansen arms ridge line in 6.5 PRC load is the Berger 156 eol with imr8133 and ADG brass at 2943 FPS I’m consistently getting sub half inch groups at 100 yards and first round hits out to 1000 yards
Thanks for the video! Christensen ridgeline 24" Reloder 25 56.5gr, hornady brass 156 berger at 2.980 coal 1/2 moa 2920 fps I have taken one whitetail with this load, bullet passed through completely and the animal expired in less than 10 seconds. I am eager to try this bullet on elk, but not sure how it would hold up if you hit the shoulder blade. I'm sure it will do the trick. I love this load and this cartridge!
I shot a bull elk with this load combo in November. First shot at 200 right in the lungs. That shot would have done the job just fine, but he ran into some trees so I shot him twice more as he was jogging perpendicular to me, both hitting high killzone. He dropped dead immediately on the 3rd shot. No bullets exited he other side. I did not open the cavity from the bottom, but suspect explosive internal damage due to the blood soup that poured out when I cut a hole to get the loins out.
total passthroughs? wow. My son and I took 2 antelope last year in Wyoming using 156 bergers over 57 gr H1000. The bullets totally disintegrated in both animals. Took them a while to fall over. Longer than any animal we've ever taken. Took a muley the following month - same thing. No blood trail. Found the deer 50 yards from where I shot it. I'm going to try some other bullets - Hornady 143's and 147's, Nosler ABLR 142's and 150's
@@ntaylor1829 out of 2 deer and 1 elk that I have shot with the 156 Berger I only got one pass through. I think they do the job but sometimes takes multiple shots which I don't like. I am switching to 127 LRX for elk this year to see how that does.
@@ntaylor1829 I think the hornady 147 eldm would work much like the berger 156 due to the thin jacket but I have seen it kill a couple elk. The 143 is a good bet but every animal I have seen killed with an ELDX bullet was really explosive with core/jacket separation always. That's fine as long as it does the job quick. I haven't found any nosler Accubonds but would definitely feel confident in those!
I run a similar cartridge, 6.5-06...using a 28.5" stainless proof thats 1/4 moa using the 140gr berger or jlk over 56gr of re26 using norma 30-06 brass... Running 3048fps
I just bought a Tikka t3 lite in 6.5 prc, looking forward to shooting it. I plan to take fallow deer, sika deer and red deer for starters and maybe later on chamois and that as well.
I've been shooting the 6.5PRC for probably 3 years. I don't big game hunt, but shoot a lot of long distance. I've had great success shooting Hornady brass with 57.2 gr. of Reloader 26 and the Sierra 150gr SMK. Getting muzzle velocities of around 3,100fps. Shot it as far as 2,100 yds. but it's more suitable performance is around 1,760(1 mile) to 1,850yds. I since started using ADG brass which is superior to Hornady. A freaking AWESOME cartridge. The only draw back is length, I know it's short action case but I've had more success loading the longer 150gr SMK seated further out. I've had to single feed but it's worth it. This thing is a hammer. If I were to build a rifle I'd get a medium or long action, so your not limited to magazine length. A GREAT ROUND!!
What do I think? :D - Well, here in Sweden we did see the light about a 125 years ago and went with the 6.5 instead of anything els (Like the .30.. urk, 7 or 8mm etc) Jokes aside. I have shot and hunted for years with the 6.5x55 and it is wonderful. Nowadays I shoot a 6.5 Ackley, and based on performance; it should be about the same as the PRC(?) - The 6,5s in my opinion offers very good effect for what they are. They buck the wind well and they shoot relatively flat and are very forgiving both to load for and shoot. With to days modern bullets I actually believe that you are not giving anything up shooting a 6.5 or a non-magnum .30. As usual; a great video, Gavin. Thanks for you`r good work!
@@tylarhaugan7908 Do it! It will do everythingthe 284 will. And you can shoot factory 6,5 ammo. I have shot moose with the Oryx, but it has a BC like a brick and I also would believe the Oryx to be too soft to be fired in AI-speed. Have a look at some of the higher quality 140grain bullets. In 850-900m/s they do as good or better than a the heavier Oryx.
@@willewille9595 and will probably use either the 160 swift a frame. And maybe barnes 145 lrx and will use 154 internond. Wish they made a 150 interbond for the 6.5
I ise hornady,s 143 gr eldx with 52.6 gr of RL22. Group is just over .25 of an inch. Does great on antelope and deer, questioned it on elk until I shot one at 468 yards and drop it
I'm shooting a Browning X-bolt Hunter and I've been using 143 ELDX. Dropped a big cow elk and muley buck - one shot. But I am looking to get some handloads with those 156gr Bergers. The added punch can only be a good thing.
I use a howa 1500 in 6.5 PRC and have only taken a mule deer with it so far, but looking to tag a bull and cow elk this season with it. I’m loading RL26 at 54gr with the 153gr A-Tip from Hornady.
The Berger Elite Hunter bullet is long and and require seating further off the lands due to magazine length limitations (in contrast to a 143 gr, Hornady ELD-X) . What is your COAL? Primer? I have a box of Berger bullets but have yet to load them up to try. When I do I will try the N565 (if I can get it!). I've had success with the ELD-X and RL-26 (56 gr.) at 2.950 COAL getting 3050 fps SD 13, and sub 1/2 moa. Custom rifle (Bartlain barrel, Bighorn action) I've taken 2 elk at 450 yards plus with this setup.
Well done!!!!! 6.5 PRC getting some attention again.. Now I want to try to locate this N565... I have H1000 among a few others, but, would like to start out with something that have a little more info behind it, for 6.5 PRC as a starting point, especially for a bag of 500 projectiles I ordered that are much lighter then what I ordered, maybe now I can use them.. Thank you for putting this together... I am excited again!!!!
Great video! I would like to see the performance difference between some of these exotic cartridges vs the old tried and true cartridges (like 7 rem mag).
I have a .264 Winchester Magnum with a 1:9 twist, shooting Speer Gold Dot 140gr. BC advertised at .571, velocity at 3025 and my rifle hasn't ever been more accurate. Haven't tried long distance target shooting more than 300 yards but I'm very pleased. I did a high velocity impact at 15 yards with 1" dry pine and 4 gallon water jugs. Expansion just over an 1" with 92% weight retention out of a thin jacketed bonded bullet. 100 yard impact, bullet 99% weight retention. I believe that Speer gold dot and Speer Impact bullets are the best ammunition for hunters needing a high BC in a 1:9 twist for the 6.5s.
These new cartridges perform much better at convincing people to get one more gun that they won't shoot that much when they're already not doing that much shooting with the guns they already have.
I got a Savage 110 tactical desert with a vortex viper pst gen ii 5-25x50 I have IMR 8133 and reloader 25 thats all I could get along with the 140 elite hunters I was hoping to take my first elk but I've been unable to buy any brass I've been looking daily for over a year now I even pre ordered 600 Lapua from creedmoor sports was told spring never got anything and can't get any info on when I'm losing hope for the PRC if I want to hunt or target anytime soon I would settle for Hornady brass at this point but there is 0
Running Ruger Hawkeye LRT with Hornady 143g ELD-X over Retunbo (54g) at 2950fps 12mm at 100m. Really waiting on the Nosler Accubond Long Range 150g to arrive and develop with RL26, should be a superb combo (142g ABLR give 3180fps.)
Using the Ruger LR Hunter in the 65 PRC 59.0g of RL-26 in an ADG case behind the 124g Hammer Hunter. Shot a cow elk square in the heart and I have never seen a heart shredded like this one was. I do like the Heavy bullets but they are hard to find right now.
very informative on a quick work up load for 6.5 prc. with a very heavy bullet for hunting not much out there on combo and on two diffrent guns to boot.
My 17 year old daughter went on her first elk hunt in Idaho. She double lunged a 5x6 at 200 yards with a 20” barrel 6.5PRC with Hornady ELD-X bullet. The bull went down in 10 seconds. Graveyard dead.
Just bought 2 pounds (limit now days) of N565. I have been using H1000, Magpro, RL 26 (great load with RL 26, however less than quarter pound left). Shooting 20-inch barrel, seeing if a little faster burn rate then H1000 gets me 2900 with 142 ABLR. With RL 26, I get 2944 fps and under .5 MOA. But with so little left, I am looking for close performances with good stable powder. H1000 comes up short but shoots good. So I will see if N565 gets me to 2900 fps, and .5 inch groups.
56.5 gr n565, 156 Berger 2900fps browning hells canyon speed That 2900 fps seems to be a sweet spot for the 6.5 prc. Same gun with the 140 vld has a node at 2900 also.
Just got the same rifle, what kinda groups you getting with that load? Did you do the mcarbo trigger spring upgrade? 50% reduction... Got that inbound.
If you are using a short action in 65 PRC you should stick to 140 gr or less. Show the audience how much bearing surface you buried below case neck/shoulder junction. I shoot 2 GAP 6.5 PRCs built on XM actions with 3.2” max mag length. Both are custom throated for the 156s. With the 156s the min OAL is 3.08” with out seating below neck/shoulder junction. I use RL-26 & get 3100+ out of my 26” & 3025 out of my 24”. Anytime I do my part both rifles shoot sub .25” bugholes. * I don’t always do my part! This is below Berger’s recommended max at 57.0 gr ignited by GM210M.
I’m running a 6.5 rsaum gap4s which is similar. Running 60.5 of reloader 26. With a 140 elite hunter. I’m running 3200 FPS. I haven’t found any 156 eol bullets to try yet. On average my velocity increased by another 100 FPS with the reloader 26. Be worth trying this powder if you can find it. Average group sizes were half moa at 100 yards 5 shots.
I'm wondering how much is gained by the 6.5 prc in comparison with the old .270? If there is minimal gains the ammunition availability and rifle choices make the .270 more palatable.
Really tough question to answer as there are lots of dynamics to it. Depends on your strings and speeds of fire. Depends on the barrel. The barrel will not last as long as your 308 or your 6.5Creed. It will last longer than a 6mm hotrod or your 22-250. Truly though as the average hunter you likely will not burn it up.
Vitavouri just put out the N568. Midway had it in 8lb kegs for $350. Sold out quik, but got me one. This might be even better for 6.5 prc than the N565. Test that please.
Nice video. What is the brand of your "full custom carbon hunter"? Looks like Christensen Arms which was customized? Would be nice if you can post the specifications for your custom build including the custom components list. Thank you.
I’m a little late responding to this video; however nice work guys-always very informative. I got a SAKO S20 Hunter in 6.5 PRC last year for Christmas from my bride (I picked it out) and it is the BEST shooting rifle I own. I have greatly enjoyed working up loads for it and it is a tack driver (.25 MOA at 300 yards). I deer hunt in the woods of Northwest Louisiana and I cannot wait to use this rifle this coming hunting season. My pet hunting load is 60.5 grs of RL25; Lapua brass; Fed 210 match primer; 143gr ELD-X bullet; a a averaging 3,026 fps.
Hey i would to see you test out some of the higher end monos like cutting edge and hammer bullets for the prc! I like this load in the video too, its nice to have so many options tho
Yes it is..The Top Long Range cartridge.
I love both of my 6.5 PRC rifles..
Great video Gavin
I shoot F-PR and hunt with the 6.5PRC in a CA MPR. Typically I use the 147 grain ELD-M with retumbo and adg brass. Probably the most versatile cartridge out there imo.
Load development is my favorite part! I reload all of our hunting ammo and i use a 260 rem and 6.5 Grendel. I love the 6.5 caliber cartridges! Hopefully will do a reloading video or two on our channel in the future!
I’ve been using the 153 grain A-tips for hunting in my 6.5 prc and they are absolutely devastating from 50 yrds to 400 yrds on mule deer and antelope
@Down N Out Outdoors I’ve only ever shot deer with them, but with what I’ve seen I wouldn’t hesitate to use them on a mature bull out 400+ yrds. I’m using RL 26 and I’ve been very happy with it. Hope those Bergers work well for ya.
I just got the CZ 600 Alpha Black in 6.5 PRC about a month ago and so far the worst group I've got was 1.29 inches with most groups being between .25 inches and .75 inches. Have tried 4 factory loads so far and the best two groups were with Hornady 147 grain ELD Match and the Hornady 143 grain Precision Hunter with both groups looking like a perfect little 3 leaf clover at 100 yards measured with a Leopold lazer range finder from muzzle to target.
Yep I'm using my 6.5prc for hunting, I've taken black bear, mule deer, moose, WT with it shooting 143eldx. Planning on doing more of that this year and adding goat, and elk all with my new 156 eol load i worked up.
Just curious, what kind of velocities are you getting with the 156's?
I bought a 6.5 PRC this year for mule deer hunting and it will be my back-up rifle for elk.
I did the same 2 years ago. Had 3 surgeries this last 12 months and one was to remove my kidney with Cancer. Doing treatments now for cancer but recovering and ready to hunt if I draw Deer, Antalope , or Sheeo in Nevada with 6.5 PRC. 338 win mag is my Elk gun if I draw.
I just picked a 6.5prc! As for now just factory ammo. But have reloaded in the past and will be reloading again in the near future 🤙
Thanks
Literally anything 6.5mm (.264) is a pure pleasure to shoot. My 6.5 Grendel, CZ-527 using hand-load 120 grain Barnes-X atop 31.0 grains of Hodgdon LEVERevolution produces 2585 fps and delivers 5-shot groups under 3/4-inch at 100-yards with frightening regularity. The Mini-Mauser action is stiff and smooth, weighing in at just 7 pounds with a Leupold 2x7-33mm scope.
It is easy to carry in the back county all day and will not beat up the shooter. It's been a long time coming since the 6.5x55mm Swede and the .264 Winchester hit the market. But it's pretty safe to say that the American shooter has finally warmed up to this outstanding caliber in a very big way.... ^~^
It's amazing how far this channel has come, I've been around here for around or more than a decade with a few different accounts. I'm always glad to see this channel growing and to see this new and great content. The rifle builds are great too!!!
After watching the results with the 6.5 PRC it has me rethinking about building a 260 Ackley Improved, decisions decisions. Good info thank you Gavin.
I have both, prefer the 280AI
I just shot my 6.5 PRC for the first time yesterday. I got the cheapest one on the market! Mossberg Patriot Predator. I averaged .86 for my groups with Hornady Hunter and Match ammo with my best at .334. Really like this caliber and looks to be my blind, spot and stock and long range hunting round. My .308 is my tree stand round now.
I have been loading the 156s for my prc, absolutely loving it. Using H4831
I have a custom 6.5 PRC (Saltzman Gun works) I love it. With someone who isn’t great at wind calls, this helps me not suck so much. The brass is hard to find, I’m loading US869 and Berger VLD 140gr.
I just bought a Franchi Momentum Elite in 6.5 PRC. Trigger pull from factory set at 2 lbs., 9 ounces. Didn't need a bed job according to gunsmith, from factory pretty tight, shaved some off left side stock channel, and took radial brake off, and put a stainless steel side discharge brake on, cerakoted to factory midnight bronze cerakote to match. Plan to use this in Wyoming for Antelope and Mule deer. I believe it has a 1 in 7 twist rate, 24 inch barrel. Would love to use these Bergers on Elk!
Working on load development know. Running a Bergara Highlander in 6.5 PRC. Started with factory 143ELDx and was super impressed with the accuracy. Under 1/2 MOA at 100 - 200 and 300 yds. But now trying the Barnes 127 LRX. Fun times ahead. Also looking to try the Sierra Game changer 140 gr once they are in stock. Let's hope our Reloading supply shelves are stocked up soon.
H4831SC for that 127. Lights out. .11 MOA
I hunted last year with a 6.5 prc and i plan on doing it again this year. I was hunting whitetail deer and was able to harvest a doe about 400 yards from where i was sitting. I stood to retrieve her and slipped off a log and broke my foot . I still made it to the doe and i was able to field dress her while i waited for my buddy to come pick me up because i just couldn't walk anymore. It was a long day and a long 4 months of rehabilitation but i think i will be doing it all over this year...except the whole breaking the foot thing.
I bought a 6.5 PRC barrel for my Big Horn. It’s a hammer, though a slight slower than I’d planned. Still enough for any game I’d be perusing in North America.
First time buyer of the 6.5 PRC. Going to be shooting Berger 156 EOL Elite factory ammo. Hoping to get a nice bull elk this October with it.
Did you?
Absolutely love my Browning x-bolt, Max long range chambered in 6.5 PRC. I’m wanting to eventually hunt some big game but coyotes for now haven’t stood a chance.
Jumped in with the waypoint and hope to see 1 meandering around the house…
I have a CA Ridgeline in 6.5 PRC with a Vortex Razor AMG on top. I did alot of load work last year with with H1000, H4831sc and RL23. The most consistent and repeatable loads I found so far is with a 140gr Accubond, 50gr of RL23 at 3.325. The speeds where in the 2750 range. The next one was 130gr AB, 50gr of RL23 and 3.315. Those two loads will cloverleaf with the holes touching at 100yrds. The 140gr Partition did real good with H1000 and H4831sc but that needs a bit more work to find consistent CL's. I got a new chrony so I'll play with that this year and see what the different loads will do speed-wise.
Awesome guest. Keep that man on.
Yeah agreed we need him to stay
This is my dream hunting set
Similar Cartridge performance but older.....6.5x284 Norma. Had mine built custom before the PRC was ever heard of. Long action, detachable mag, 8.5 twist. Absolutely Loves the 140 Berger Hunting VLD. 4831 powder, 2975'/sec. At my elevation, that's still 2200'/sec and 1500 ft.lb of energy at 600 yds. It has accomplished my farthest bull elk and my largest whitetail. It also accomplished the smallest group I've ever had, 4 shots covered by a dime at 255 yds.
My load is N565, Hornady brass, Fed 210M and Berger 144 Hybrid. I harvested 2 whitetail last year that dropped instantly. Also took a Coues at 636 yards with Hornady 143 ELD-M ammo. I just ordered a barrel in 1:7.5" twist so I can shoot the 156s.
I put a bartlein m24 26” carbon on a big horn origin action. I’m shooting berger 130 vld hunter. 59 grains of rl26 with magnum match federal primers with Hornady brass. That load is pushing the 130 at 3260fps. I’m in new your and only shoot whitetail deer. My 270 always dropped them with a 130 so figured I wanted as flat a shot I can have. I do shoot deer at long distance. I shoot off tripod almost exclusively unless zeroing. I have a 10” plate at 690 and only need 10.75 moa to be water line on plate. Love the prc. Iv been hunting with prc going on 3rd season and this is my 4th one I have owned and built a couple for friends. I have Travis stevens of TS customs do my chambers.
Bergara,..pretty hard to beat off the shelf quality and accuracy..Ed taught them well.
I liked your comment. I have a ruger m77 long range target it shoots less than half inch groups with factory hornady match. With these 156 bergers 1 hole
Dammit Gavin ! I just spent 2K (up in canikstan) on a Bergara Wilderness 6.5 PRC. Ya sold me, keep up the awesome videos thanks !
I’m shooting a similar but better (IMO) cartridge in the 6.5 WSM topped with the 153 Hornady ATips @ 3185 with average groups of 1.65” at 400 yds. I shot a cow elk last fall at 966 yds and it was spectacular….
Love the channel. Keep up the great work
I’m pushing 140gr Berger VLD Hunting rounds with 54gr of RL26, .057” jump. Averaging a little over 2900fps, yielding 1/2 moa groups. Shooting a Christensen Arms ELR rifle. It’s a great combination. I am planning to try the Vihtavouri N565 when I can get ahold of some. Pretty hard to find right now.
How’s the recoil rifle?
Great vlog Gavin.
I shot and reloaded for 6.5 Swede for 20+ years and have always had problems getting good bullets.
The Berger really interests me.
Happy huntin.
I'm glad you finally posted a vide of this. Most have know idea what their load does for one condition to another. this will be a long post as TV screws the real world conditions. The only shot that counts in hunting is the first. Groups don't matter unless you shoot them in all conditions. Meaning leave the target hang shoot in all conditions years round if you can. What can you do to make a 1/2'' moa from summer to winter? Answer back if you have a reasonable expectation to take a long range shot under all conditions. Educate me why you would do this
The answer is an easy one, practice! You can not expect to sit around all year not practicing and at hunting season pick up your rifle and make that first round hit. You must take the time to learn your system and how it works in the conditions that you could potentially find yourself hunting in. You cannot buy first round hits, you must practice to get them.
You drank the punch on this one Gavin
I'm shooting a christensen arms ridgeline 6.5 prc. It loves the 140 elite hunter bullet and n560 powder. Getting 3130 mv and .5 moa groups. Shot a mule deer buck this year at 350 yds and he dropped in his tracks absolutely love this round!
What barrel length?
My best group with my waypoint was 135gr a tips and n560…3rds…1 perfect.264” hole I can’t measure..I’ve got close to 10 loads developed from 95gr v max to 153a tips..
I'm having great accuracy with both my Seekins Havak and Savage ultralight 6.6PRC. Factory Hornady 143 ELDX and reloads with 55.5 gr. RL26. Both loads and rifles 1/2" at around 2980 fps. The Savage shoots Cutting Edge 140 MTH same powder and load into the same hole! Have shot 3 out of the first 4 3-shot groups in the same hole! One of those was at 200yds!
Great information. How about. A couple of comparisons with some. New slow powders. Equal to retumbo r33 or the enderons. I have a 6.5wsm in mod 70 wsm action. It shoots. 140 Berger’s at 3250-3300 easy not beating it up. 26” kreiger. And has shot lost. 500 1”1/2 groups. Ps my. Retumbo. Supply is running low
Thanks for the great stuff you put out.
I have a savage 110 high country chambered on 6.5prc and i love it i get sub moa at 100 yards.
6.5 PRC is pretty legit but gotta pick the 6.5SAUM 1st. Little bit more punch and who likes to have the same thing as everybody else? Really enjoy your informative videos and the quality content... keep it up!
Thank you for a great video!
I have a Sprint field waypoint 2020 6.5 PRC, shooting a Hornady 143 gr. Eld-x not impressed shot a young axis buck at 84 yds and recovered the bullet on the other side hide, I did the deed but I don’t think I would take it with me on a elk or mule deer hunt. I will experiment with the 156 grain Berger bullet and the 127 grain Barnes. Since I had taken many deer with the barnes 110gr. Bullets I inclining to those on a heavier configuation.
A 6.5 PRC will give you around 350 FPS faster than a 6.5 CM when you compare grain for grain bullet.
The creed guys will negate and say it's a measly 200 fps faster. You are correct, grain to grain it's between 300 to 350. That's a whole hell of a lot when you consider compound bows shoot from 270 to 350 fps an overall grain weight of 125 to 135.
I’m shooting a Christensen Arms Mesa in 6.5 PRC, topped with a Tract Toric 4-20 x 50. As of now I’m just using factory Hornady 143 Gr ELDX for hunting, and the 147gr ELDM for target shooting. Last weekend I shot a 3 shot group with the ELDM, that almost put all three in the same hole. With that performance it would be hard to beat that with reloading.
Sounds like the 147eldm needs to go hunting worked great for me on whitetail when I first got my prc n was only ammo could find
I’m shooting a Christiansen arms ridge line in 6.5 PRC load is the Berger 156 eol with imr8133 and ADG brass at 2943 FPS I’m consistently getting sub half inch groups at 100 yards and first round hits out to 1000 yards
Seekins Havok Bravo in 6.5 PRC 24” barrel. 147 ELDMatch 58.5 H1000 (OVER MAX no pressure signs) Fed 210 primer Hornady brass CBTO 2.305. 3013fps sd 8.6 G1 6.97 getting .56 MOA. Haven’t tried it in the Wilderness yet
Thanks for the video!
Christensen ridgeline 24"
Reloder 25 56.5gr, hornady brass
156 berger at 2.980 coal
1/2 moa
2920 fps
I have taken one whitetail with this load, bullet passed through completely and the animal expired in less than 10 seconds. I am eager to try this bullet on elk, but not sure how it would hold up if you hit the shoulder blade. I'm sure it will do the trick. I love this load and this cartridge!
I also would like to see what this bullet will do on heavy bone structure at those increased velocities that the PRC gives us.
I shot a bull elk with this load combo in November. First shot at 200 right in the lungs. That shot would have done the job just fine, but he ran into some trees so I shot him twice more as he was jogging perpendicular to me, both hitting high killzone. He dropped dead immediately on the 3rd shot. No bullets exited he other side. I did not open the cavity from the bottom, but suspect explosive internal damage due to the blood soup that poured out when I cut a hole to get the loins out.
total passthroughs? wow. My son and I took 2 antelope last year in Wyoming using 156 bergers over 57 gr H1000. The bullets totally disintegrated in both animals. Took them a while to fall over. Longer than any animal we've ever taken. Took a muley the following month - same thing. No blood trail. Found the deer 50 yards from where I shot it. I'm going to try some other bullets - Hornady 143's and 147's, Nosler ABLR 142's and 150's
@@ntaylor1829 out of 2 deer and 1 elk that I have shot with the 156 Berger I only got one pass through. I think they do the job but sometimes takes multiple shots which I don't like. I am switching to 127 LRX for elk this year to see how that does.
@@ntaylor1829 I think the hornady 147 eldm would work much like the berger 156 due to the thin jacket but I have seen it kill a couple elk. The 143 is a good bet but every animal I have seen killed with an ELDX bullet was really explosive with core/jacket separation always. That's fine as long as it does the job quick. I haven't found any nosler Accubonds but would definitely feel confident in those!
More videos for 6.5 PRC please...!!!
I am looking for one...😉
Why not use a Temperature stable Magnum powder like H1000 it's a standard for 6.5 PRC. I use it with Barnes TTSX or LRX.
Thanks for all your great video, you really make my life easier reloading my 6.5 creed
Glad to help!
I run a similar cartridge, 6.5-06...using a 28.5" stainless proof thats 1/4 moa using the 140gr berger or jlk over 56gr of re26 using norma 30-06 brass... Running 3048fps
Im building a 6.5PRC using this powder and bullet combo.
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Love the channel.
Finally in Travis in the right shirt.
6.5 PRC Fierce Carbon Edge 156EOL, Retumbo 58grs 2950fps, consistently Sub MOA @ 1000+ yards and 1/2 MOA on my good days.
Sounds more like a sniper rifle than a hunting rifle.
I just bought a Tikka t3 lite in 6.5 prc, looking forward to shooting it. I plan to take fallow deer, sika deer and red deer for starters and maybe later on chamois and that as well.
I've been shooting the 6.5PRC for probably 3 years. I don't big game hunt, but shoot a lot of long distance. I've had great success shooting Hornady brass with 57.2 gr. of Reloader 26 and the Sierra 150gr SMK. Getting muzzle velocities of around 3,100fps. Shot it as far as 2,100 yds. but it's more suitable performance is around 1,760(1 mile) to 1,850yds. I since started using ADG brass which is superior to Hornady. A freaking AWESOME cartridge. The only draw back is length, I know it's short action case but I've had more success loading the longer 150gr SMK seated further out. I've had to single feed but it's worth it. This thing is a hammer. If I were to build a rifle I'd get a medium or long action, so your not limited to magazine length. A GREAT ROUND!!
R26 is impossible to get you hands on right now. I gave in a paid a premium on gunbroker for some h1000, they R26 was just way too much.
What do I think? :D
- Well, here in Sweden we did see the light about a 125 years ago and went with the 6.5 instead of anything els (Like the .30.. urk, 7 or 8mm etc)
Jokes aside. I have shot and hunted for years with the 6.5x55 and it is wonderful. Nowadays I shoot a 6.5 Ackley, and based on performance; it should be about the same as the PRC(?)
- The 6,5s in my opinion offers very good effect for what they are. They buck the wind well and they shoot relatively flat and are very forgiving both to load for and shoot. With to days modern bullets I actually believe that you are not giving anything up shooting a 6.5 or a non-magnum .30.
As usual; a great video, Gavin. Thanks for you`r good work!
I am wanting building 6.5x55 ai will shoot 156 norma oryx for elk and bigger. And 127 barnes lrx for deer
@@tylarhaugan7908 Do it! It will do everythingthe 284 will. And you can shoot factory 6,5 ammo.
I have shot moose with the Oryx, but it has a BC like a brick and I also would believe the Oryx to be too soft to be fired in AI-speed. Have a look at some of the higher quality 140grain bullets. In 850-900m/s they do as good or better than a the heavier Oryx.
@@willewille9595 imma build my 7mm08 ai first on a 284 kick atm.
@@willewille9595 and will probably use either the 160 swift a frame. And maybe barnes 145 lrx and will use 154 internond. Wish they made a 150 interbond for the 6.5
I ise hornady,s 143 gr eldx with 52.6 gr of RL22. Group is just over .25 of an inch. Does great on antelope and deer, questioned it on elk until I shot one at 468 yards and drop it
I'm shooting a Browning X-bolt Hunter and I've been using 143 ELDX. Dropped a big cow elk and muley buck - one shot. But I am looking to get some handloads with those 156gr Bergers. The added punch can only be a good thing.
Shooting Mossberg Predator in 6.5PRC. Just took in out to 600 yards at CMP range @ Talledega, Alabama. 3 consecutive in 18” to qualify. Hunting
I use a howa 1500 in 6.5 PRC and have only taken a mule deer with it so far, but looking to tag a bull and cow elk this season with it. I’m loading RL26 at 54gr with the 153gr A-Tip from Hornady.
The Berger Elite Hunter bullet is long and and require seating further off the lands due to magazine length limitations (in contrast to a 143 gr, Hornady ELD-X) . What is your COAL? Primer? I have a box of Berger bullets but have yet to load them up to try. When I do I will try the N565 (if I can get it!). I've had success with the ELD-X and RL-26 (56 gr.) at 2.950 COAL getting 3050 fps SD 13, and sub 1/2 moa. Custom rifle (Bartlain barrel, Bighorn action) I've taken 2 elk at 450 yards plus with this setup.
these were loaded to 2.80 which was the Bergara mag length
Was this load developed with large rifle magnum primers or just large rifle primers?
Well done!!!!! 6.5 PRC getting some attention again.. Now I want to try to locate this N565... I have H1000 among a few others, but, would like to start out with something that have a little more info behind it, for 6.5 PRC as a starting point, especially for a bag of 500 projectiles I ordered that are much lighter then what I ordered, maybe now I can use them.. Thank you for putting this together... I am excited again!!!!
Glad to get you motivated!!
264 win mag it's good for all hunting in north America flat shooting and it's a hammer down range!!!!!
Great video! I would like to see the performance difference between some of these exotic cartridges vs the old tried and true cartridges (like 7 rem mag).
I have a .264 Winchester Magnum with a 1:9 twist, shooting Speer Gold Dot 140gr. BC advertised at .571, velocity at 3025 and my rifle hasn't ever been more accurate. Haven't tried long distance target shooting more than 300 yards but I'm very pleased. I did a high velocity impact at 15 yards with 1" dry pine and 4 gallon water jugs. Expansion just over an 1" with 92% weight retention out of a thin jacketed bonded bullet. 100 yard impact, bullet 99% weight retention. I believe that Speer gold dot and Speer Impact bullets are the best ammunition for hunters needing a high BC in a 1:9 twist for the 6.5s.
These new cartridges perform much better at convincing people to get one more gun that they won't shoot that much when they're already not doing that much shooting with the guns they already have.
I really like the bench you shoot off of
I got a Savage 110 tactical desert with a vortex viper pst gen ii 5-25x50 I have IMR 8133 and reloader 25 thats all I could get along with the 140 elite hunters I was hoping to take my first elk but I've been unable to buy any brass I've been looking daily for over a year now I even pre ordered 600 Lapua from creedmoor sports was told spring never got anything and can't get any info on when I'm losing hope for the PRC if I want to hunt or target anytime soon I would settle for Hornady brass at this point but there is 0
Running Ruger Hawkeye LRT with Hornady 143g ELD-X over Retunbo (54g) at 2950fps 12mm at 100m.
Really waiting on the Nosler Accubond Long Range 150g to arrive and develop with RL26, should be a superb combo (142g ABLR give 3180fps.)
Using the Ruger LR Hunter in the 65 PRC 59.0g of RL-26 in an ADG case behind the 124g Hammer Hunter. Shot a cow elk square in the heart and I have never seen a heart shredded like this one was. I do like the Heavy bullets but they are hard to find right now.
Those hammer bullets are the shit
very informative on a quick work up load for 6.5 prc. with a very heavy bullet for hunting not much out there on combo and on two diffrent guns to boot.
My 17 year old daughter went on her first elk hunt in Idaho. She double lunged a 5x6 at 200 yards with a 20” barrel 6.5PRC with Hornady ELD-X bullet. The bull went down in 10 seconds. Graveyard dead.
Just bought 2 pounds (limit now days) of N565. I have been using H1000, Magpro, RL 26 (great load with RL 26, however less than quarter pound left). Shooting 20-inch barrel, seeing if a little faster burn rate then H1000 gets me 2900 with 142 ABLR. With RL 26, I get 2944 fps and under .5 MOA. But with so little left, I am looking for close performances with good stable powder. H1000 comes up short but shoots good. So I will see if N565 gets me to 2900 fps, and .5 inch groups.
Love the bullet in block of wood idea! 👍👍
56.5 gr n565, 156 Berger 2900fps browning hells canyon speed
That 2900 fps seems to be a sweet spot for the 6.5 prc. Same gun with the 140 vld has a node at 2900 also.
Just got the same rifle, what kinda groups you getting with that load? Did you do the mcarbo trigger spring upgrade? 50% reduction... Got that inbound.
Currently working with 140 ELDX, 53.6 grains H4381sc and Hornady brass. Sub 1/2 MOA @100.
If you are using a short action in 65 PRC you should stick to 140 gr or less. Show the audience how much bearing surface you buried below case neck/shoulder junction. I shoot 2 GAP 6.5 PRCs built on XM actions with 3.2” max mag length. Both are custom throated for the 156s. With the 156s the min OAL is 3.08” with out seating below neck/shoulder junction. I use RL-26 & get 3100+ out of my 26” & 3025 out of my 24”. Anytime I do my part both rifles shoot sub .25” bugholes. * I don’t always do my part! This is below Berger’s recommended max at 57.0 gr ignited by GM210M.
I’m running a 6.5 rsaum gap4s which is similar. Running 60.5 of reloader 26. With a 140 elite hunter. I’m running 3200 FPS. I haven’t found any 156 eol bullets to try yet. On average my velocity increased by another 100 FPS with the reloader 26. Be worth trying this powder if you can find it. Average group sizes were half moa at 100 yards 5 shots.
Great video! what is the difference between the two rounds?
I just watched this and was wondering if he is using small or large primers for this setup
I'm wondering how much is gained by the 6.5 prc in comparison with the old .270? If there is minimal gains the ammunition availability and rifle choices make the .270 more palatable.
Your custom rifle in the background looks a lot like a Springfield Waypoint. Again, great video.
I would like to see more with the 300 PRC. Maybe with Retumbo and the 225 grain ELD Match bullet.
I second this..
Third
I just bought a Browning X-Bolt in 300 PRC and plan to use those bullets and powder.
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Yup
Does this round/ load burn up your barrel how many rounds can you expect if you were to shoot targets and hunt with this load? Thanks great video.
Really tough question to answer as there are lots of dynamics to it. Depends on your strings and speeds of fire. Depends on the barrel. The barrel will not last as long as your 308 or your 6.5Creed. It will last longer than a 6mm hotrod or your 22-250. Truly though as the average hunter you likely will not burn it up.
What primers are you using? Are you using standard primers or magnum primers?
You should do one on a cost breakdown on loading to buying off the shelves.
Question:
6.5 PRC to much recoil for NLR Hunter and PRS Competition? Or is 6.5 Needmoor the goldilocks do all but nothing great option?
Well done. Good show as always. Impressive all the way around. Thank you
Wish you'd offer your t shirts in 4x and 5x for us big boys. 1rst time here and the presentation and info was great.
My friend, that must means you need to take better care of yourself. Why go early when people still need you.
@@TechieTard Great point Tard but at 6ft, 7 in and 280 the big ones are more comfortable. Best of luck to you and yours
Damn you to hell...so that's probably a dozen calibres on my wishlist now hahaha
Great job, great information
Vitavouri just put out the N568. Midway had it in 8lb kegs for $350. Sold out quik, but got me one. This might be even better for 6.5 prc than the N565. Test that please.
It would be great too see a all 6.5 compared video 6.5creedmoor vs 6.5prs vs 6.5-284 vs 264 rem vs 6.5x55.
And what about 6.8 western? Elk/deer/black bear?
Just had a 6.5 prc built but can't find any brass to even shoot it. Right now it is just a show piece. It is good to know where I can start though.
Im thinking about buying one of these for my all around hunting rifle..Not sure if it will be powerful enough for moose though..
Gavin. We are all hanging to see a gel block test of this projectile!!!!!!
Nice video. What is the brand of your "full custom carbon hunter"? Looks like Christensen Arms which was customized? Would be nice if you can post the specifications for your custom build including the custom components list. Thank you.
Are those Berger bullets not a bit soft for plains game?
I’m a little late responding to this video; however nice work guys-always very informative. I got a SAKO S20 Hunter in 6.5 PRC last year for Christmas from my bride (I picked it out) and it is the BEST shooting rifle I own. I have greatly enjoyed working up loads for it and it is a tack driver (.25 MOA at 300 yards). I deer hunt in the woods of Northwest Louisiana and I cannot wait to use this rifle this coming hunting season. My pet hunting load is 60.5 grs of RL25; Lapua brass; Fed 210 match primer; 143gr ELD-X bullet; a a averaging 3,026 fps.
Hey i would to see you test out some of the higher end monos like cutting edge and hammer bullets for the prc! I like this load in the video too, its nice to have so many options tho
Now 7MM is coming out with a stepped up round!
Bagara premiere Ridgeback 6.5 prc. Hornaday 147...deer elk ..bear..moose..red stag ..200 inch whitetail..one shot kill
How about doing a similar workup with lighter bullets Lapua Scenar-L 136 and H4831sc?