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What great content. Owning all 3 and reviewing from that perspective is so useful for the community. Keep it up father and son.
I'm guessing your idea for the Cybertruck is to use a NEMA 14-50 to 4 NEMA 5-20 outlets adapter to run your power tools from and then it will be far more successful than using the 120 volt outlets in the bed of the Cybertruck because the 120 volt outlets peak at 20 amps whereas the NEMA 14-50 peaks at 50 amps.
Glad someone understands electricity.
Note the Cybertruck has a forty (40) amp breaker on the NEMA 14-50 outlet.
@@expertknitter8126thanks, good to know.
How many shroombucks is that
What was the drop in % and range on the battery doing these tests?
???
Translation: What was the % drop of energy in the battery and range drop for each truck during the tests?
About 1 mile
Loved this video. Imagine the three trucks went off roading and something broke. You could weld it out in the middle of nowhere.
Ford allowing 30A on a 20A circuit is actually dangerous. Seems like it should have blown the circuit I wonder if it would have if they kept the load going for longer if it would have pop'd.
That was a fun different test.
That’s awesome on welding.
Great video. As Tim the Tool Man would say "More Power!"
Great job doing these comparisons. I'm happy to see that the Cybertruck can handle a large electric welder with ease.
In Rivian's defense, they were first to market and did not have the luxury of seeing their competition ahead of time to out-do then.
GREAT TEST! Power outlet related: I just noticed the Cybertruck does not have a basic 12v outlet. Rather important for camping with a 'overlanding' fridge or other traditional camping items.
Good test guys
Thanks guys great video
Wow, that Cybertruck is INCREDI-Tech! EXCELSIOR!!!
New idea equals some power block to convert the 240v outlet in to more 120v outlets to out do the ford.
I own the Lightning, but Cybertruck got my attention since it will keep getting newer over time with OTA features. Tesla definitely command that moat. I'll jump on it once the price is reasonable.
Such a brilliant, helpful video, thanks guys 🤜 💥 🤛
I think that's normal when outlets are combined. Usually it will say so. The rated output is across all the outlets.
I have what they call "solar generators" which is basically a big battery with AC sine wave 120 outlets. My specs say 2200watts which is across all 3 outlets. It can surge to 4400watts if an appliance needs more to start up. I don't use it for power tools, but for cooking when camping. I don't do testing but I watch videos that test these things and they'll use let's say an induction stove, air fryer, coffee maker, water kettle, and a heat gun with different settings and by combination of these they try to trip the breaker to see what it can handle. For recharging it uses an MPPT controller and the output is basically the AC converter. What you're testing is basically the inverter and whatever it's rated for.
Another test you can try is a break out cable that gives you a pair of 120v from the 240v outlet and see how each of the two legs does.
I know from experience that the lightning pair of bed 120v are each a leg on the 240v, but I haven't yet tested my CyberTruck to see if that's the case, I expect it will be.
It's odd that you popped the CyberTruck 120v outlet, if it's just a leg of the 240, and that the second 120v didn't give you more juice, so now I have some doubts...
According to a video I saw about a Cybertruck tear down, there is a set of wires under the frunk to be able to install an outlet later on.
They speculated that it wasn't installed either because oarts were scarce or just to get them out the door faster.
The first makes more sense to me.
Love how in depth y'all got on this. :) Thank you!
Awesome real world testing! Another good test would be with 240V and 120V outlets simultaneously to see about total power output of the inverter.
Really interesting test!
Great video! This is the first time I have seen this tested.
Love this review from a work truck perspective. Unique on youtube
Amazing video! Thanks guys. Congrats from Brazil.
Rivian is enough for 90% of working situations but why bother when CT price becomes same or lower
What work situations do you think trucks are used for? Because it's more like 1/3 of jobs, cybetruck about 2/5ths of jobs, needs a roof rack to be 3/5ths.
@@miguellopez3392 Oh i was only referring using trucks for power source. Most of time, people would use one truck for one single power equipments at a time.
Well done fellas and looking forward to the roof rack battle ;)
Looking forward to the future test. Definitely some interesting results here
You can get a 240 to 110 V adapter that turns a 240 V outlet into a 110 V outlet. Our elecrician plugged one in for us when we went from an electric oven to a gas oven a couple of decades ago. In theory that would give you a 40 amp 110V outlet in the cybertruck. Just be careful the extension cords don't melt!
What if you weld the saw to the air compressor?
Just kidding -
Weld the Grinder to the Saw...
Great tests guys. Thanks for the results! Now We Know
I sure hope your secret idea has individual circuit breakers built into the 2 "legs." Oops, did I give too much away.
how about using a sub panel fed from the CT 240v outlet?
Cybertruck and F150 are both awesome trucks. Its good there is competition so they keep improving them and lowering the prices!
Need to plug in microwaves
Microwaves are +/- 1200 watts
Waiting for the Silverado EV ✌️
I have a thought about the inside circuit and it could be lower amperage until you break the circuit as the grinder wasn't full power. so maybe the inside is 15 amps only. probably needs more tests to make sure. however this would help explain what happened with the grinder.
Cyber truck all day
guys please can you connect a power analiser?
Yes, would be good to see if the power remains a good sine wave. Some inverters when nearing overload produce closer to a square wave. This then has higher frequencies in it which then can blow up devices which use a capacitive dropper in their power converter (e.g. many LED lights).
Wow, I'm surprised the Ford couldn't handle the welder. That suggests to me that it's not going to be a really good backup power for my house. I currently use an 8,500 watt generator for backup. I'm interested to see how both the Ford and Tesla do charging another electric vehicle.
Maybe Tesla can upgrade to two 20A circuits. But still CT is good enough for a job site.
You guys are AWESOME! KEEP bringing on the head-to-head truck comparisons!!
It would be cool if you guys could have a solar awning to work under while using power tools. Can you charge the cyber truck at the same time as using power tools?
I'm sure with this data. Tesla will hopefully look into upgrading the cyber truck, adding the extra plugs and legs needed to beat the ford lightning.
Serious job site compressors are 220v
Some FYI - the 240v does not come back when it trips. I used it on my electric sawmill, and would have to go back into the bed to turn it on
For the cybertruck
Just split that 240 volt on the Cyber truck. Done
Sure would love to know if a generator can charge the Cybertruck. Not enough charging infrastructure in many parts of northern British Columbia.
2:13 Whoops!! Almost lost an arm…
Next time.. rent the tools you test. Your tools did not like the 'voltage drop' any more than a pc or lap top would. Thank you for this post!
will there be a Silverado ev in the channel?? later on?
All this time and no one tested the Rivian for this lol
Yes! These tests are exactly what I hoped for. I'd love to see you use the 240-volt outlet. Thanks a lot guys. Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
15:23 bad bad camera
So if you weld, CT is the truck of choice for remote welding
How the hell do these guys afford all of these vehicles?
They bought stock in Tesla at the earliest opportunity and then started a website that gets a huge amount of traffic, so it earns money from sponsors as well as subscribers. I bet they are pulling in a seven-figure income easily, and they earn it by taking the risk and doing excellent articles and reviews online. It takes a lot of work to produce good content to a regular schedule.
@ 1 3 : 5!0 I hope it’s a gd TESTER FLUKE OR IDEAL
Love the comparison, this was super interesting to watch. Definitely would love too see these in a "camping" scenario.
Electric grill, plus charging stuff.
Right after, electric heater for an hour.
Wait wait wait… the cycle is smaller than the lightning? Where are all the people that were complaining about this cybertruck not fitting in the garage? Are they now complaining that the F150 doesn’t fit in the garage? Prolly not.
Wow. 😮. Awesome to know. Thanks. 🙏.
I don’t see any hearing protection guys.
Another great dad and son test
Thank you, good content. I usually work alone, so as long as my saw doesn't crap out when the compressor kicks on, I'm good to go. I wonder if I'm charging my tool batteries, using a circular saw and the compressor kicks on if it will handle that.
Now, can you PLEASE, talk about lumber racks! Also, what about winches?
chevy silverado beats all
Come on guys, get or borrow a good meter to measure voltsge drop
Ford should have gotten a fail on the Electrical code since the Breaker did not trip when more than 20 amps were pulled.
20 amps is to protect the electrical cords
The 110 volt outlets on the Cybertruck were 20 amp, designed to accept a 20 amp plug which has one prong turned sideways. But the Ford 110 volt outlets were 15 amp design, even though they could provide 20 amp power.
Now my question is whether the wiring to the Ford's 20 amp plugs actually rated for the power you were able to pull from it? If not that is a fire hazard.
Hopefully we'll see a comparison with the Silverado.
rivian is a truck for snobs, p...s.
ford is for workers, LaRaza
cybertruck can go both ways
A receptacle rated 20 A is required to have trip protection accordingly. You're right to say it is not safe to drive more than 20 A in this circuito as it is a hazard for the extensions connected to it. Ford seems not compliant with the NEC. Although cybertruck has the protection required by NEC, I believe resetting a tripped protection needs to be manual. If true, Cybertruck wouldn't be compliant with NEac either.
will you use a transformer ?
OR a car to grid thingy ?
Great test but most job sites used battery tools now. Just need to be able to charge batteries and power a drop or cutoff saw.
Rivian is an adventure truck, not a work truck. Which is fine.
It's not even an adventure truck. It needed to support vehicles in other got it to do adventures, if it weight 2000lbs less then maybe.
More doubters need to see this to show you can use it on the job site.
Not just the Rivian.... every F150 class pickup truck the OEMs make are starting to look like a toy truck compared to the CT's capabilities. Let's face it, the CT is only rated at the capacities that it is because of federal classification groupings. If your truck can carry more than a certain amount it has to have thicker axles, etc etc.
Elon is on record as saying that the CT's cargo capacity is actually higher than what it is rated for. They only rated it at what it lists because they didn't want to add weight by having to go up an axle size.
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Try the bidirectional charging, Z & J!
I am hoping you bought something to breakout the 240V to two 120V outlets for testing. ;) It would be interesting to see if they can handle unbalanced loads. It also might allow you to pull more power at 120V for Cybertruck.
Former Patreon member. I would like to know if you can camp overnight in the vault and what features do you have available via your phone from there.
the CT is the Safer of the three one should not ever have a 20 amp outlet hooked up to a 30 amp supply.
that is how fires get stared.
One more test: welding while the compressor is running off the 120 outlet?
So the grinder will run far less current when free running
So if the Ford's 120V outlets are the separate legs of the 240V, that suggests that you're not going to be successful running 240V and 120V tools at the same time.
From what I saw of the Ford's display, it looks pretty clear that it's wired like that, as the 240V shows as power on both of the 120V lines.
Zac please please please get ur face AWAY from th handle If that dull drill bit stops the handle will knock you out
2 hands on th drill for beginners…….. you didn’t even have ta ask….. KNOW YOU KNOW
@7:25 mirror auto-close lol
It would be even better if the 240V outlet was a 50A. The 240V outlets on the portable generators used at construction sites are usually 50A.
11:35 unlike the Rivian you mean
Looks like the Rivian is just an 'adventure' vehicle for weekend warriors. Not bad, just a different mission vs 'work' for heavier duty stuff. It looks like Ford has the right idea, just minorly wimped out on a part of the implementation, would be nice if they upgraded to 'cybertruck mode'
Also the cybertruck should rethink their 120 outlet strategy, I am pulling for them but for 'useful access' to the AC power Ford is a bit ahead, IMHO.
I'll keep my order in for the Cybertruck though!
The quick 'first drive' that another chanel did for the Silverado EV WT looked nice, wish you had one of those too.
Only the CT has a single 240AC outlet?
None having a 380 AC (3 phase) outlet for power tools???
I want to see you draw a 110 volts off of the 220 plug with a conversion cord and then see how many amps you can draw off the cybertruck
Great comparison for real-world applications. The real difference for the future will probably be that someone at Tesla will watch and report this and Tesla will actually improve their performance on future iterations. Ford will just shout "Ford Tough!" and continue towards bankruptcy, and Rivian will continue to be an empty marketing ploy pretender.
Do a cybertruck video on pedestrian safety.
I would call the Ford not cutting the power at the appropriate current is a fail. That is a safety issue that can cause a fire and damageb the plug. The rating is about the weakest part of the circuit which is the plug. Those 110 plugs don't handle over current well and tend to melt.
You literally have all the tools, you really should have made a jig to hold the amp meter.
Did someone say _Ear Protection_ l'm sure you had ear plugs....
Sounds like Ford is F****D because they have to make more Lightnings, lol
I cringe at how bad you guys look using tools
In the rest of the world; their houses are made mainly from concrete so the commentary isn’t all that accurate
The rest of the world doesn't have all these trucks available.
Wood houses are common in many countries on various continents.
A lowly gas generator or a dedicated heavy duty maintenance free LiFePo noiseless portable generator could generate all the power, without a dent on range! Does not need a 100K EV for that. In the end, a power generator, is nothing but an essential power tool accessory, and likely go through a lot of abuse by itself, paying for itself, if a replacement is needed. Almost any one of the EV trucks could carry one in their bed🤔. Range extender battery packs for EV trucks is an overkill in terms of cost and constant dead weight to lug around. An on demand generator rental is easy on the wallet. Keeping generator separate allows for more flexibility in mobility as well(not all powertools are extension cord friendly), not to mention easier maintenance(only when using an ICE unit). Batteries not good for electric pickup trucks, esp. One used to carry variety of heavy loads for jobsite work.
BEVs lose a lot of range,not just pulling things, but also, when exposed to hot sun or biting cold, just to maintain the cabin comfort(climate control could be a plus for some loads🤔), maintain optimal battery thermals, cooldown high power drive electronics. Don't want additional anxiety to the prevailing range anxiety🤯. CT sales should 🚀 already, if "real" weekend warriors fit the target market 😂
That for letting us all know who that guy is.
If you worked 8 hours pulling 3kwh nonstop that’s only 24kwh, in the ballpark of 20% of the battery. What you are worried about is not an actual issue.
So what's some people are trying to get rid of stupid gas that is destroyed the earth air and make the earth too hot in certain states - cities
Logic fail. People don't buy a Cybertruck because they didn't know gas generators exist. They buy a Cybertruck because they want a Cybertruck and being able to also tap into the massive stored energy that comes with it is a nice extra. It's not like 10,000 watt generators are pocket sized, silent, efficient, and maintenance free.
Yea that’s right generators don’t take up any space, are whisper quiet, don’t weigh anything and don’t require fuel or maintenance.
Jesse you should shave that beard or get rid of it! a beard is always a girl shut off!
I'm his girlfriend and I love it. Girls love beards.
You lose so much credibility with your cybertruck bias.The way you cut the wood between the two vehicles was wrong