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Cam, thanks for doing this video, I had seen you other one about finishing and I'm glad you updated. I have a walnut desk, and a sycamore slab dining table I'm working on, and almost ready for finish, I just ordered the nano kit. I can't wait to try this! Thanks again, Greg
Just ordered to Scotland to test on the knives I make. I think it could work great however I haven’t seen anything about other use cases. I mainly use non stabilised wood (mostly walnut and elm burl) so I have experimented a lot with other hard finishes like ca glue (works well) and a different 2 part hard finish (was crap). Fingers crossed third times the charm
I just did N3 on my first epoxy table about a month ago. I live in Fl and my garage was probably around 80. I tried to followed the last video instructions but quickly realized it was setting much faster than 60 seconds and adjusted. Table turned out great and I am already itching to do another. I’m thinking my current dinning room table is not cutting it these days …. 🤔
I bought the n3 kit, loved the results on the first walnut table I used it on. Can you use it to cost your table saw surface (as opposed to paste wax)? I saw another guy use Chemical Guys WAC22916 HydroSlick Intense Gloss Sio2 Ceramic Coating Hyperwax to coat his table saw surface and he said he loves it...made me look over at the N3 bottles and start pondering...
Hi Cam - I have N3 ready to apply on Rubio finished walnut slab. Would LIKE to keep the sheen down to matt to satin. How many coats of the hard coat and how many of the top coat do you suggest to maintain Satin finishing or lower. thanks!!!
once cured is this product food safe ? I'm planning to use it in the future on a Wooden kitchen counter and dining table and having a 4 year old food safety is kind off important :)
Hi thanks for the detailed finishing guide. two questions: is the hard coat applied to raw sanded wood? and 2) is the nano hard coat and top coat finish appropriate for kitchen countertop applications Oh a third question what sanding grit do you work to before applying the N3 hard coat
How would you recommend applying and buffing off on a live edge with insect channels? We don’t want to sand them off our bar top, we think they’re cool.
I'm wondering about shelf life and storage conditions. I think this would be great for particularly intricate chef knife handles, fancy tool handles, burl bowls, etc. Projects where I'd want to showcase the grain, but not cover in poly. I assume this will take a while to use up covering small pieces. How many months/years can I expect a bottle of n3 to keep on a shelf? Thoughts on storage conditions and temperatures of unused product?
What surfaces other than wood will N3 work on? I have a poured epoxy resin table (no surface wood) that is very slightly tacky (the resin will lightly bond to plastic and other resin objects placed on it and they have to be pulled a little to come up, but it doesn’t seem to damage the table at all). I’m hoping that topping it with N3 will give it a smooth nicer-feeling finish
It says to remove finger oil and so forth as the initial cleaning step. Is it fine to apply N3 to oiled wood if the wood has had plenty of time to cure?
Hello Cam, Thanks for this video. I am making a dining table for the first time and got n3 finish. Is a new applicator pad needed when applying each layer of the hard coat? Ex: 3 pads for 3 coats How long should I wait in between the coats? I’ll definitely be singing up for the finishing course!
We definitely recommend using a new applicator pad for each coat, but we have just released a new applicator system: n3nano.com/products/applicator-blocks
What is the difference in the N3 and automotive ceramic coating. Im wanting to make a table for my works break room but im also on a budget since im just getting back into woodworking. Thanks in advance
In other videos on blacktail studio you mentioned to finish the bottom first, then immediately flip the table over and finish the top, to avoid warping or cupping. Is N3 applied only to the top?
I like Andrew's question but I'm not sure your response is very clear because you referred him to the new application video but you don't really answer the question directly. Should you apply N3 to the bottom and top to avoid cupping?@@N3Nano
Hi Cam, Amateur woodworker here, I am building an epoxy table with teredo wood and finished it with 3 coats of Rubio so far - due to a small void that I noticed after 2 coats of Rubio, I tried to spot fix before a third coat and now have a slight inconsistency in sheen in that area. Have you seen the N3 help hide some finish imperfections like this or is would you think imperfections in the finish could compromise the N3 finish. Tried Googling but not a lot of luck here so any feedback you may have helps!
Great question - we recommend changing the cloth after each application, as when N3 dries it becomes hardened, so to not risk scratching during the application
I'm a bit confused... why do you use a black light on some videos for this and not others? Or am I seeing you just use a handheld shop light to look for shiny spots? Thanks so much!!
In another video he says to finish it with Rubio or whatever your poison is wait a week or so and then apply the n3 nano hard coat wait 30-60 mins than do another hard coat if you like. Wait for 24hours than do the top coat.
I'm curious if any guitar luthiers have ever reviewed this or given feedback on usage of this on an acoustic guitar. I've got a couple small acoustic guitars I'm interested in trying to preserve as long as possible and this seems like a good way to do it. Guitars are always gonna get scratched from picking and they're always going to be exposed to sweat/light moisture, so I'm interested in seeing some testing with that kind of mindset if possible. The bassist for Metallica used to test the durability of his basses by dunking them in bathtubs full of salt water, so maybe salt water (but not an entire bathtub! LOL) would be a good sweat simulation. And any kind of id card or credit card could be used to simulate guitar pick scratching. Thanks a bunch!
Great idea! I know that we have had a few guitar makers use N3 Nano Finishing with great success - here a clip: ua-cam.com/video/gOwvnQl2yM4/v-deo.html
Dude …there are some cool fillers and techniques to colour and grain match your surface…..Im surprised that you chose such a yellow looking wood filler and would be interested to know why you chose the colour? Otherwise love your Chanel and great teaching🌈
I’m pretty sure he wanted to do a gold epoxy for those holes. If you see the finished desk, it has gold accents like outlets and holes for wires that are gold plated.
For something to test, what about sandpaper or files mostly sitting on the table or lightly scraped? What about a heavy, really annoying printer that the feet fell off years ago? So basically a heavy thing that's on a few points of plastic contact. What else.... The standard morning coffee stain that you don't notice until after your morning 2 hour meeting? I think those would be kinda out there. If you could tolerate the smell, it might be interesting for extreme cases like food rotting away for a year on it while outside... I think I watch too much Aurikatarina
Cam, thanks for doing this video, I had seen you other one about finishing and I'm glad you updated. I have a walnut desk, and a sycamore slab dining table I'm working on, and almost ready for finish, I just ordered the nano kit. I can't wait to try this! Thanks again, Greg
FYI you have to wait 30 mins. between hard coat coats. (It's explained in the original application video, just not this one).
Just ordered to Scotland to test on the knives I make. I think it could work great however I haven’t seen anything about other use cases. I mainly use non stabilised wood (mostly walnut and elm burl) so I have experimented a lot with other hard finishes like ca glue (works well) and a different 2 part hard finish (was crap). Fingers crossed third times the charm
I just did N3 on my first epoxy table about a month ago. I live in Fl and my garage was probably around 80. I tried to followed the last video instructions but quickly realized it was setting much faster than 60 seconds and adjusted. Table turned out great and I am already itching to do another. I’m thinking my current dinning room table is not cutting it these days …. 🤔
Love that! And glad we got these instructions dialed in for you guys that get to live where the weather is nice.
Hey you didn't mention how long you should wait between top coat application
I bought the n3 kit, loved the results on the first walnut table I used it on. Can you use it to cost your table saw surface (as opposed to paste wax)? I saw another guy use Chemical Guys WAC22916 HydroSlick Intense Gloss Sio2 Ceramic Coating Hyperwax to coat his table saw surface and he said he loves it...made me look over at the N3 bottles and start pondering...
Hi Cam - I have N3 ready to apply on Rubio finished walnut slab. Would LIKE to keep the sheen down to matt to satin. How many coats of the hard coat and how many of the top coat do you suggest to maintain Satin finishing or lower. thanks!!!
will mineral spirits work as a cleaner?
Are you saying don't reuse the rag on the pad which is what Im thinking or the pad and rag it self
once cured is this product food safe ? I'm planning to use it in the future on a Wooden kitchen counter and dining table and having a 4 year old food safety is kind off important :)
Hi thanks for the detailed finishing guide. two questions: is the hard coat applied to raw sanded wood? and 2) is the nano hard coat and top coat finish appropriate for kitchen countertop applications Oh a third question what sanding grit do you work to before applying the N3 hard coat
Can you clarify what you mean by "pad"? Do you mean do not reuse both cloth and block or just the cloth?
How would you recommend applying and buffing off on a live edge with insect channels? We don’t want to sand them off our bar top, we think they’re cool.
Is the N3 food safe on charcuterie boards?
I'm wondering about shelf life and storage conditions. I think this would be great for particularly intricate chef knife handles, fancy tool handles, burl bowls, etc. Projects where I'd want to showcase the grain, but not cover in poly. I assume this will take a while to use up covering small pieces. How many months/years can I expect a bottle of n3 to keep on a shelf? Thoughts on storage conditions and temperatures of unused product?
Unopened it’ll last for many years. We say one year once it’s open. But we expect it to last probably 2-3 years once opened.
What surfaces other than wood will N3 work on? I have a poured epoxy resin table (no surface wood) that is very slightly tacky (the resin will lightly bond to plastic and other resin objects placed on it and they have to be pulled a little to come up, but it doesn’t seem to damage the table at all). I’m hoping that topping it with N3 will give it a smooth nicer-feeling finish
It’ll work on most surfaces. I’ve tested it on Plastic, metal, paint, epoxy, wood and more.
Hey Cam! I have a question, the 75 sqft coverage of the kit of n3 nano, consider the two layer of application?
Yup, that’s for two coats of each
It says to remove finger oil and so forth as the initial cleaning step. Is it fine to apply N3 to oiled wood if the wood has had plenty of time to cure?
Yup! Just don’t want fresh oil
Hello Cam,
Thanks for this video. I am making a dining table for the first time and got n3 finish. Is a new applicator pad needed when applying each layer of the hard coat? Ex: 3 pads for 3 coats
How long should I wait in between the coats?
I’ll definitely be singing up for the finishing course!
We definitely recommend using a new applicator pad for each coat, but we have just released a new applicator system: n3nano.com/products/applicator-blocks
@@N3Nano Oh good. You answered my only question after your video. Thanks!
What is the difference in the N3 and automotive ceramic coating. Im wanting to make a table for my works break room but im also on a budget since im just getting back into woodworking. Thanks in advance
Automotive has a lower concentration of the ceramic contents.
In other videos on blacktail studio you mentioned to finish the bottom first, then immediately flip the table over and finish the top, to avoid warping or cupping. Is N3 applied only to the top?
Hey Andrew - here is the application video for your reference: ua-cam.com/video/NwsVNGu9Ouc/v-deo.html
I like Andrew's question but I'm not sure your response is very clear because you referred him to the new application video but you don't really answer the question directly. Should you apply N3 to the bottom and top to avoid cupping?@@N3Nano
Hi Cam,
Amateur woodworker here, I am building an epoxy table with teredo wood and finished it with 3 coats of Rubio so far - due to a small void that I noticed after 2 coats of Rubio, I tried to spot fix before a third coat and now have a slight inconsistency in sheen in that area. Have you seen the N3 help hide some finish imperfections like this or is would you think imperfections in the finish could compromise the N3 finish. Tried Googling but not a lot of luck here so any feedback you may have helps!
If you reach out to support here: n3nano.com/ we'll be able to help with this!
Are you changing the applicator cloth with each section?
Great question - we recommend changing the cloth after each application, as when N3 dries it becomes hardened, so to not risk scratching during the application
I'm a bit confused... why do you use a black light on some videos for this and not others? Or am I seeing you just use a handheld shop light to look for shiny spots? Thanks so much!!
The black light is used to cure a special finish not the n3. I believe it's a linseed oil based finish with some magic that cures under UV light.
Can this be used on raw wood or does it need some other finish first?
In another video he says to finish it with Rubio or whatever your poison is wait a week or so and then apply the n3 nano hard coat wait 30-60 mins than do another hard coat if you like. Wait for 24hours than do the top coat.
It does need a finish applied first. It’s not designed to be used alone on bare wood
Time in between base coats and top coats?
24 hours 👊👊
can this be applied over a ca glue finish that has been polished?
Yup!
I'm curious if any guitar luthiers have ever reviewed this or given feedback on usage of this on an acoustic guitar. I've got a couple small acoustic guitars I'm interested in trying to preserve as long as possible and this seems like a good way to do it.
Guitars are always gonna get scratched from picking and they're always going to be exposed to sweat/light moisture, so I'm interested in seeing some testing with that kind of mindset if possible. The bassist for Metallica used to test the durability of his basses by dunking them in bathtubs full of salt water, so maybe salt water (but not an entire bathtub! LOL) would be a good sweat simulation. And any kind of id card or credit card could be used to simulate guitar pick scratching.
Thanks a bunch!
Great idea! I know that we have had a few guitar makers use N3 Nano Finishing with great success - here a clip:
ua-cam.com/video/gOwvnQl2yM4/v-deo.html
Can this go on teak or danish oil?
Yup!
Dude …there are some cool fillers and techniques to colour and grain match your surface…..Im surprised that you chose such a yellow looking wood filler and would be interested to know why you chose the colour? Otherwise love your Chanel and great teaching🌈
I’m pretty sure he wanted to do a gold epoxy for those holes. If you see the finished desk, it has gold accents like outlets and holes for wires that are gold plated.
Can this be used on exterior doors?
Absolutely - man of our clients have used it to great success on their exterior doors!
Shipping is $100 to New Zealand…😅
For something to test, what about sandpaper or files mostly sitting on the table or lightly scraped? What about a heavy, really annoying printer that the feet fell off years ago? So basically a heavy thing that's on a few points of plastic contact. What else.... The standard morning coffee stain that you don't notice until after your morning 2 hour meeting? I think those would be kinda out there. If you could tolerate the smell, it might be interesting for extreme cases like food rotting away for a year on it while outside... I think I watch too much Aurikatarina
I’m sure sandpaper would scratch it. But the extended coffee test is a great one.
Can you get away with just using the hard coat? This sht is expensive.
It is possible, but if you want perfection take the whole process 👍🏽