I think more videos like this are good. In the name of clarity you and most other channels like this edit out all the other planes, and I think it gives the false impression that these controllers are dealing with one plane at a time and the mistakes seem more implausible. Sometimes it's good to expose the viewer to the real chaos.
i like what the controller did, it showed his frustration but at the same time it showed other pilots the scope of the situation AND lightened the mood of probably everyone with the all-in-one key up.
Okay, I love this new format for showing someone being blocked. Also kudos to that ATC, he was stressed and saw everyone was too, so he did something funny to help blow off the stress.
People can say it was unnecessary, but I actually like it a lot. I've been taxiing around on insane days like this, and it is frustrating and everyone's emotions start running high, slipping in some humor is a great way to help calm everything down and help everyone relax a little bit
Newark, particularly ground, has been chaotic in the last few weeks with very long wait times for departures starting in the afternoons. Route and fixes are stopped on and off, sometimes NOTHING out of Newark is available. When one route kept being opened and closed one ATC said that they just closed it because a drop on rain fell outside NY center. This controller is gold. The ”i’m removing your flight plan” gets pilots attention for sure. Also very professional.
I can only imagine this one guy in JFK going ballistic with people getting stepped on like that lol......Good job on the controller to make his point in a lighthearted fashion instead of screaming "STFU ALL OF YOU!!!!"
Back in 90-91 I rode jumpseat in and out of Dulles as often as my job allowed (fairly often), and this reminds me of their approach frequency. But when I flew through their VFR corridor as a student pilot (always adding STUDENT PILOT to my callsign), suddenly the controller spoke very slowly, clearly, and kindly. When he called me with an advisory or something, the channel went completely silent while he and I were talking. It was surreal. The controller and the pilots who could hardly talk fast enough for their own clearances found all kinds of time for the student who wasn't even in their class B airspace. (I think radio contact was required for VFR transition through that corridor, but I got the full, deluxe flight-following package with a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni.) I knew how busy that frequency normally was, and I knew crews in that airspace were holding back their coms for me. It was very kind of them, though I'm not sure it was all that necessary. I was pretty good on the radio by then. The jumpseat time in that airspace was great prep for that. That corridor was through the IAD-DCA-BWI class B airspace. Does the EWR-LGA-JFK airspace have a VFR corridor with students like me on the approach freq?
Sounds like this is from EWR GND (ground, not tower). But I like the "I'm gonna count to 3. And you all say 'I'm ready to taxi!', just to get it out of your system...") 😂
I am in awe of both pilots and ATC , as i am neither, at these choked airports. The professionalism displayed most times is nothing short of inspiring. Respect to you all.
This is exactly how you take something like that and sprinkle it with positive energy and flip the script. He could have snapped projecting negative energy and made everything worse. But he chose that route. Everyone got a good laugh and lighted the energy up and all is well.
Work the problem ! Great job controller for showing this to everyone on the ground. It lightens the mood and shows that progress is being made. Keep up the great work.
Are you talking about JetBlue Tug 2 where Steve goes “Earth to JetBlue Tug 2, Earth to JetBlue Tug 2” “Tower this is JetBlue Tug 2” “you called me sir!” - Steve 😂 Because if you aren’t, he might’ve done that one twice lmao.
That was a really great moment. It communicated a lot with humor which you need in situations like that. I loved hearing someone in the background of ATC laughing too. Gold star for that controller.
EWR ground freq . I was there trying to to get out after many delays and reroutes and gate hold. This was a light fun moment in a chaotic time trying to get out of EWR. Got off the ground right at the 2 hour mark of pushing from the gate.
Awesome! I remember this - I was listening on LiveATC that evening. Glad you posted this. 1st controller cracked me up, but I also want to give kudos to the 2nd controller. He had some good lines too (not shown here) lol.
ATC is on point. I can see how this might be viewed as rude or frustrating, but EWR is a tire fire even on the best of days. Good for them getting things done with a bit of humor.
I guess we can tend to forget that in the light of ATC goofs that make the news, most are pretty darned sharp like this guy and handle complex situations very well. That was a heck of a performance!
NYC has three major airports plus Teterboro, Islip and Newburgh. The airspace is extremely congested and any kind of weather deviations create conflicts between traffic flows. So just about any deviation for weather usually means that route closes until the weather dissipates or moves. People say the "weather isnt bad." What passengers and the general public dont notice is that even light rain showers can be produced by towering cumulus and cumulonimbus clouds that pilots deviate around to avoid turbulence. Similarly, the NYC airports are scheduled based on optimal runway configuration at each airport. If the wind, ceiling and visibility isnt allowing the optimal configuration at each airport, this causes conflicts and reduces the arrival and departure rates. This happens on what most people would consider good weather days but poor scheduling and airport infrastructure gets blamed to weather or air traffic control. the New York area doesnt have enough runways and the runways it has are awkwardly located and designed.
0:37 just after “United407 I’m removing your flight plan,” though its attributed to EWR tower, I thought this was another ac on frequency saying “He gone!” like White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson
I was here that night, remember most if this. DOT return at 2h50 min, deplaned, made a second attempt and got out after I basically pleaded with ground to let us cut the line coming out of the ramp.
Wow, that's a tour de force performance by the controllers! Humor always helps! Well done. Also some real nuggets here worthy of "Kennedy Steve" - "Oh, here comes an airplane...stand by..." And "Stand by - someone better than me is about to take over!"
OK, that was pretty good, he actually counted to 3 and they all responded HAHA! He was stressing with a jam - They need a tower dog to relieve stress. When I' mess with my dog it's like a cold reboot in a minute.
Love it. After being in and out of there many times in the past few weeks dealing with the traffic management procedures this gave me a good laugh. Guys are working with the best they got.
That’s awesome. It’s a crazy environment, but sometimes you need to have fun, then get back to work. I would say it was absolutely necessary to do. : )
Oh remembering my days at ORD. Ground during the 5 oclock rush. ORD ground position we keyed the mic and gave instructions watching for aircraft movement to comply with our instructions. We knew if we unkeyed the mic we would lose control of the situation.
Chaotic nights - (I'm guessing multiple re-routes due to weather) - The limits of DC-3 era radios... It's a true test of patience. I laughed when he says: "Someone better than me is taking over..."
SWAP during the IT Meltdown. This was day 4 of 4 for me. Blocked out first time at 240 and got to cincy at 1020, one DOT return and 8 reroutes later with FAA in my jump
I don't recall the weather from 23 July, was it bad on that day? I would have expected to hear this recording from yesterday and Last Night, the weather was freaking horrible here
I know this is clearly weather related, but as of late EWR has had its issues. Seems they are working out the kinks from reassingment to Philly. On 7/26 the Newark-area airspace sector was reassigned from NY Tracon to Philadelphia’s facility due to staffing shortages. No longer "NY approach" now "Newark approach"
That's absolutely nuts! Was there bad weather and a backlog due to a groundstop? That controller is too modest. He's no Kennedy Steve but fantastic job nonetheless
:23, 23 July? I would have expected this yesterday afternoon and last night. The weather here was really bad. I had water dripping down out of my smoke detectors and that was after I got home from a 1 hour drive to go one mile around floods and traffic jams...
So is this funny or unnecessary?
I think more videos like this are good. In the name of clarity you and most other channels like this edit out all the other planes, and I think it gives the false impression that these controllers are dealing with one plane at a time and the mistakes seem more implausible. Sometimes it's good to expose the viewer to the real chaos.
I thought it was funny, and it was said light heartedly, so everyone played along. Great videos keep up the awesome stuff!
Funny :)
Funny AND useful for stress relief, haha.
0:37 The controller said "He Gone"
Honestly, gold when everyone keyed up lol. Good for that controller for at least having a sense of humor about it. We're all human.
i like what the controller did, it showed his frustration but at the same time it showed other pilots the scope of the situation AND lightened the mood of probably everyone with the all-in-one key up.
Okay, I love this new format for showing someone being blocked. Also kudos to that ATC, he was stressed and saw everyone was too, so he did something funny to help blow off the stress.
I do too! This was a good idea. Maybe a little less thick hash lines to be able to read the words though?
Nah, it's perfect
"United 1992, you'll be number next." 😆
Yeah, I caught that, made me chuckle.
Where there’s a “number next”, there’s always a “number last” too 😁
"any spirits on my frequency?" sounds so good out of context
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😂😂😂😂@@harveywilde6781
Omfg hahaha
That guy laughing in the background when everyone keyed up was PERFECT
When everyone keys up 😂😂😂😂
They sounded like a bored classroom. 😅
@@simeon2851 facts tho-
That simultaneous key-up was hilarious. I actually Lol’d…
Freaking died. That was outstanding 😂🤣
Yeah that controller knew his buddy was there to relieve him off the shift.
It was clever.
Kudos to the young controller. He added a bit of humour to a messy situation. All done.
People can say it was unnecessary, but I actually like it a lot. I've been taxiing around on insane days like this, and it is frustrating and everyone's emotions start running high, slipping in some humor is a great way to help calm everything down and help everyone relax a little bit
Newark, particularly ground, has been chaotic in the last few weeks with very long wait times for departures starting in the afternoons. Route and fixes are stopped on and off, sometimes NOTHING out of Newark is available. When one route kept being opened and closed one ATC said that they just closed it because a drop on rain fell outside NY center.
This controller is gold. The ”i’m removing your flight plan” gets pilots attention for sure. Also very professional.
"He gone" got me.
Weather hasn't helped either
@@joshw1687 It's been absolutely wild.
Last few weeks? Coincides with moving some N90 EWR controllers to PHL. Mess this caused in the air affects the mess on the ground.
@@cykotronic And the weather has been miserable on and off.
ATC and everyone are trying the best. They can't do much about the systemic stuff.
When everyone keyed up, average Microsoft Flight Simulator X lobby.
Welcome to steam edition
They were all reporting the hot air balloon doing 350 kn on the taxiway.
@@zechuelhahaha good reference
@@zechuel
My guess is it's from China.
@@joshw1687 context?
I can only imagine this one guy in JFK going ballistic with people getting stepped on like that lol......Good job on the controller to make his point in a lighthearted fashion instead of screaming "STFU ALL OF YOU!!!!"
Back in 90-91 I rode jumpseat in and out of Dulles as often as my job allowed (fairly often), and this reminds me of their approach frequency. But when I flew through their VFR corridor as a student pilot (always adding STUDENT PILOT to my callsign), suddenly the controller spoke very slowly, clearly, and kindly. When he called me with an advisory or something, the channel went completely silent while he and I were talking. It was surreal. The controller and the pilots who could hardly talk fast enough for their own clearances found all kinds of time for the student who wasn't even in their class B airspace. (I think radio contact was required for VFR transition through that corridor, but I got the full, deluxe flight-following package with a year's supply of Rice-a-Roni.) I knew how busy that frequency normally was, and I knew crews in that airspace were holding back their coms for me. It was very kind of them, though I'm not sure it was all that necessary. I was pretty good on the radio by then. The jumpseat time in that airspace was great prep for that.
That corridor was through the IAD-DCA-BWI class B airspace. Does the EWR-LGA-JFK airspace have a VFR corridor with students like me on the approach freq?
That is a brilliant way to quickly take some of the stress out of it.
3:45 "here comes an aeroplane, just hold it right there!" - classic
The controller is doing great
Sounds like this is from EWR GND (ground, not tower). But I like the "I'm gonna count to 3. And you all say 'I'm ready to taxi!', just to get it out of your system...") 😂
Definitely GND, yes.
Yes, it was Ground Control, but non-pilots just understand "Tower" in general.
I am in awe of both pilots and ATC , as i am neither, at these choked airports. The professionalism displayed most times is nothing short of inspiring. Respect to you all.
This is exactly how you take something like that and sprinkle it with positive energy and flip the script. He could have snapped projecting negative energy and made everything worse. But he chose that route. Everyone got a good laugh and lighted the energy up and all is well.
Vic that was a great find !!!!
one of the pilots you just heard reported this to me.
Yea this is one of those cases where the more you are familiar with this situation the funnier it gets
Hearing busy towers have a sense of humor is always nice. Love when everyone plays a long too.
That was great lol. Stress diffusion master class
The simultaneous key-up was silly, but needed, I think.
The controller did a great job.
Work the problem ! Great job controller for showing this to everyone on the ground. It lightens the mood and shows that progress is being made.
Keep up the great work.
"I'm removing your flight plan"
More effective than Steve looking for lost plane as "earth" tbh
Hahah I remember that! That was gold 😂
Are you talking about JetBlue Tug 2 where Steve goes
“Earth to JetBlue Tug 2, Earth to JetBlue Tug 2”
“Tower this is JetBlue Tug 2”
“you called me sir!” - Steve 😂
Because if you aren’t, he might’ve done that one twice lmao.
@@Partylizard1 I may have forgotten the tugs😂I was meant to say lost plane on JFK taxiway 😂😂
Somebody better than me is about to take over. 😂 The man knows its limits 😅
Newark is nuts on a good day glad to see some light heartedness
That's actually hilarious 😂
That was a really great moment. It communicated a lot with humor which you need in situations like that. I loved hearing someone in the background of ATC laughing too. Gold star for that controller.
These controllers rock
EWR ground freq . I was there trying to to get out after many delays and reroutes and gate hold. This was a light fun moment in a chaotic time trying to get out of EWR. Got off the ground right at the 2 hour mark of pushing from the gate.
Awesome! I remember this - I was listening on LiveATC that evening. Glad you posted this. 1st controller cracked me up, but I also want to give kudos to the 2nd controller. He had some good lines too (not shown here) lol.
I love this guy
1..2..3 that was awesome!
I love it. You have to have a sense of humor at times like this.
ATC is on point. I can see how this might be viewed as rude or frustrating, but EWR is a tire fire even on the best of days. Good for them getting things done with a bit of humor.
Huh, “tire fire”. That’s a new one for me.
I guess we can tend to forget that in the light of ATC goofs that make the news, most are pretty darned sharp like this guy and handle complex situations very well. That was a heck of a performance!
You are so right! Overall ATC controllers are absolute legends for what they do with the mind boggling amount of flights every day! 😊🥰👏👏👏
Y’all should check out the Newark diagram. These ATC guys are crazy skilled
NYC has three major airports plus Teterboro, Islip and Newburgh. The airspace is extremely congested and any kind of weather deviations create conflicts between traffic flows. So just about any deviation for weather usually means that route closes until the weather dissipates or moves.
People say the "weather isnt bad." What passengers and the general public dont notice is that even light rain showers can be produced by towering cumulus and cumulonimbus clouds that pilots deviate around to avoid turbulence.
Similarly, the NYC airports are scheduled based on optimal runway configuration at each airport. If the wind, ceiling and visibility isnt allowing the optimal configuration at each airport, this causes conflicts and reduces the arrival and departure rates. This happens on what most people would consider good weather days but poor scheduling and airport infrastructure gets blamed to weather or air traffic control.
the New York area doesnt have enough runways and the runways it has are awkwardly located and designed.
i love it, it's a professional way for the controller to get his stress out without telling certain people to f off lol
0:37 just after “United407 I’m removing your flight plan,” though its attributed to EWR tower, I thought this was another ac on frequency saying “He gone!” like White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson
Yep I caught that too…that’s exactly what he said, ‘he gone!’.
That's a KS move right there..😁
I was here that night, remember most if this. DOT return at 2h50 min, deplaned, made a second attempt and got out after I basically pleaded with ground to let us cut the line coming out of the ramp.
Wow, that's a tour de force performance by the controllers! Humor always helps! Well done. Also some real nuggets here worthy of "Kennedy Steve" - "Oh, here comes an airplane...stand by..." And "Stand by - someone better than me is about to take over!"
This might be my new favorite video on the channel
OK, that was pretty good, he actually counted to 3 and they all responded HAHA! He was stressing with a jam -
They need a tower dog to relieve stress. When I' mess with my dog it's like a cold reboot in a minute.
Love it. After being in and out of there many times in the past few weeks dealing with the traffic management procedures this gave me a good laugh. Guys are working with the best they got.
Amazing ground control and funny
I've never laughed so hard before while watching one of these videos.
“Ok everyone key up ….1..2..3” LOL
Don’t let O’Hare controllers see this or it’ll be an on the hour event!😂
Then JFK will make it every 30 mikes.
Aw, that was hilarous to listen to!
“You’re number next” got me😂
i really expect tower going "why the silence" at the end tho.. fun ATC there!
0:35 Pretty sure that was a "He gone." 😅
That’s awesome.
It’s a crazy environment, but sometimes you need to have fun, then get back to work.
I would say it was absolutely necessary to do. : )
Can you repeat that?! Glad he has a sense of humor. That’s life in the NYC metro area. We’re kinda used to it.
and this is why philly air space area is taking over part of the old newark airway duties.
😂😂😂💀💀💀OMG I CHOKED ON FOOD. That was the funniest thing ever. And everyone did too. Hahahaha. That was greeeeeat
Welcome to busiest airspace in the world, where being on the ground is the most difficult part of the job.
Thanks Victor
Sometimes shit’s just fucked.
These things happen.
Just gotta hash it out.
Sometimes shit's just fucked
You've just gotta hash it out.
These things happen guys.
Now you have a (pretty bad) haiku!
@@Firewolf_Daimyo oh my fvcking god.
That Haiku bot bullsh¡ts plagueing reddit enough as it is.
Dont bring that sh¡t here! 😂
Oh remembering my days at ORD. Ground during the 5 oclock rush. ORD ground position we keyed the mic and gave instructions watching for aircraft movement to comply with our instructions. We knew if we unkeyed the mic we would lose control of the situation.
Chaotic nights - (I'm guessing multiple re-routes due to weather) - The limits of DC-3 era radios... It's a true test of patience. I laughed when he says: "Someone better than me is taking over..."
Other than everyone keying up at the same time per tower’s request, 3:40 really made me laugh for some reason “…aaaaand here comes an airplane” 😅😅😅
LOVE my EWR controllers! Best in the business! BYEEEEEE!
Good ole SWAP!
SWAP during the IT Meltdown. This was day 4 of 4 for me. Blocked out first time at 240 and got to cincy at 1020, one DOT return and 8 reroutes later with FAA in my jump
Give that controller a raise! 😂😂
I can understand the chaos. It's been VERY stormy and rainy here in NJ. We had flooding all over the place
I don't recall the weather from 23 July, was it bad on that day?
I would have expected to hear this recording from yesterday and Last Night, the weather was freaking horrible here
One of the funniest clip I’ve heard. Hilarious 😂
This controller needs to be cloned!
I know this is clearly weather related, but as of late EWR has had its issues. Seems they are working out the kinks from reassingment to Philly. On 7/26 the Newark-area airspace sector was reassigned from NY Tracon to Philadelphia’s facility due to staffing shortages. No longer "NY approach" now "Newark approach"
that was awesome!
Tower felt like a teacher with a class full of children wanting to go to the restrooms all at once
That's absolutely nuts! Was there bad weather and a backlog due to a groundstop? That controller is too modest. He's no Kennedy Steve but fantastic job nonetheless
Wow!
That first controller was in the zone despite the chaos. He needs a raise.
I know its not JFK but damn does this make me miss Kennedy Steve. :/
Agree, Kennedy Steve is legendary! Hopefully in time, the next generation of Kennedy "Steves" will emerge on the radios.
There was a video here from Philadelphia a few months back that alot agreed gave Kennedy Steve vibes.
Great job controller
"United 1992 you'll be number......next."
would've been nice to know why Newark was so chaotic
Weather and routes north were closed and just opening up after ground stops.
Very funny, horrendous phraseology throughout. No Time Off Award for you!
Keep up the great work!
Cool controller: "Someone better than me is about to take over"
Me: HAHAHA he did NOT just say that!
"United 407, I'm removing your flight plan"
YEOUWCH! 😂
I’m crying at 4:05 😂😂😂😂😂
If this ATC is in therapy, I want that therapist’s number.
B short of U. Facing westbound, right?
"Affirm. I'd face the passengers but the FAA frowns on it..."
Ah, paying homage to kennedy steve
lol this was hilarious
3:47 "here comes an airplane" well that was unexpected /s
:23, 23 July?
I would have expected this yesterday afternoon and last night. The weather here was really bad. I had water dripping down out of my smoke detectors and that was after I got home from a 1 hour drive to go one mile around floods and traffic jams...
4:00 made my day 😅😂
I don't envy tower controllers during swap. A lot easier in the tracon.
I'm ready to taxi.
Was it a storm that caused this?
Affirm.
Cute video!
I don't see any chaos here. The ground controller was pushing tin and doing a great job of it.
You don't know the rest of the comms, do you?
@@VASAviation Only what you posted. Sounds busy but quite orderly considering the backup of aircraft I'm hearing.
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