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I remember when u came out and gave your speech Gabe! Well a few speeches, but I think we all know the one. THANK YOU sir.. sincerely. I remember wondering if ANYONE gave a damn about the truth around that time .. u knew the risk .. but u set an EXAMPLE by getting up there and telling it like it was. thankyou sir. Seeing u get up there and ACTUALLY care about the repercussions of what was happening gave me hope. And I'm sure millions feel the same.
Yes. I remember posting a picture of him making that famous speech where he said, “ Mr. President, someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get killed.” He was my hero then and still is. Integrity is admirable.
I will never ever ever forget Gabriel Sterling ! That needed to be said . The tactic ? Trump is a spoiled immature out of control child and needed to be talked to the way Gabriel did
It was foreign to him; “Give me a break guys, you are Republicans, you should do this”. Didn’t occurred to him that there is some higher level of loyalty to the law and the constitution. Now, that was a handful. 🤔 George Washington will still be president if the constitution had allowed room for people to fold and cave in under pressure from a seating president.
Fascinating interview. I'm sincerely amazed as a European to hear intelligent conversation from a conservative. Not for a moment I lost my attention, as he talks in such vivid images. Thank you very much for posting this.
Very well said, I was also riveted to this great interview. I was waiting to see or hear of ANY platform Former President Trump might by chance have for THIS ELECTION YEAR? still waiting.
During this time period, I was able to watch Gabriel live on the local news during the day. I would see and hear his detailed explanations of what was taking place during the count and recounts (3 in total). Including the time, as he says, he lost his temper. His explanations alleviated any misgivings I may have had about vote counting in Georgia. It also made me realize that much of what I was hearing about in the other swing states was undoubtedly being misrepresented by Donald and his sycophants. This interview provided an excellent summary and chronological presentation of the events. I only wish that those who support the Don and still believe the voter fraud conspiracies would take the time to watch and take to heart what Gabriel emoted in this interview.
Something he said during the interview really brought home the situation we are in. He explained everything to a friend who thought the Democrats cheated. He went point by point and the friend understood and agreed with his explanation. Then his friend said he thought Democrats still cheated. When facts, complete with commentary, from an insider who is trusted -- don't matter, where do we go from here?
@@meanpersonable it’s the epistemological crisis that imperils our nation and civilization, and I don’t see how it gets better the farther into the rabbit hole we go.
@@hollydowns2279 the first few hours, days, weeks of another DJT Presidency will be all the proof either side of this issue needs. If he attempts what he and his handlers claim he is going to do and people go along, then it's all over but the joy.
Absolutely agreed! I still go back to "Putin and the Presidents" and "Lies, Politics, and Democracy" from a year to a year and a half ago, and those two still hold up in spite of everything that's happened since.
I remember that speech. It was awesome. I thought that speech was one of the best I've ever seen. It makes me so sad that it didn't move more people. You are not the only Republican I've respected. You are certainly in the top 10. I'm a lifelong Democrat. I am terrified and glad I'm 77 and not 27.
"President's are supposed to be the example." Mr Sterling, YOU are the best of us. YOU are the example I tell my kids to follow. Thank you for speaking truth and standing on that line for our future.
When radio came out they had to have a radio personality. Video came out and they had to have a good TV personality and populartity came with it. Humans are too flawed to pick in such a way.
As a lifelong Georgian I'm extremely proud to have Gabriel Sterling as one of our own. Integrity and courage like his is rare, especially in the field of politics.
You should... I remember seeing him for the first time when he said "we pronounce it Houston (Hausten)" in a press conference. He and Raffensberger are really heroes.
Yet the Georgia courts have ruled the elections tampered with by egregious fraud, whatever government agitprop he is spewing to revise recent history is appalling. Those exposing how Georgia's voting machines were not only accessible to the internet and with a list of unknown people on these machines during the count, while testifying he was asked if it were possible to hack the ballot counting machine in the court room and the expert testifying did so right before the judge. The judge ruled the ballot counting machines compromised and not capable of conducting a count, yet Georgia failed leadership literally ignored this and said they'd use them for 2024 regardless. Study after study done has displayed the mail-in ballots the criminal entryway for all fraud to commence, exactly why signature matching was removed from the count and denied from any further inquiry into what happened election night.
So you are ok with the MASSIVE FRAUD that went down in your state? The FACT that there was MASSIVE FRAUD in Georgia, as well as in many other states, was GLARINGLY OBIVOUS, starting with the VIDEO EVIDENCE of the content of suitcases of ballots that came out from under tables after a polling station had been officially closed over a non-existent "water leak". The video shows several individuals feeding ballots through ballot counting machines multiple times. After the mysterious middle-of-the-night suspension, when the polling station came back online, they had added more than 100K votes for Biden, virtually none for Trump, which totally went against the trend of the day, where Trump consistently had a lead over Biden! No such discrepancy was observed even in heavily blue districts in places like California and NY. Even in the bluest districts, Trump performed rather well. He NEVER dropped down to virtually zero any number of ballots. Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE to suddenly "find" 100K ballots in a row that were exclusively for Biden. In addition, in the States that are most disputed, hundreds of thousands of ballots had ONLY a Biden vote, without votes for the House or the Senate! What are the odds that hundreds of thousands go to the polls, but do NOT vote for the house or the senate? Why would they do that? Because if they had added house or senate votes to the FAKE ballots, the Republican leadership would have been FORCED to oppose the fraud. As they were very happy to get rid of Trump, they did NOT oppose the obvious fraud against him.
As a person of color I love my country. Regardless of the political climate under Trump, I still feel this is the greatest country in the world. I feel blessed to have been born here and raise my family here. Watching all these videos help me realize just how fragile our democracy can be when in the hands of the wrong leader. But these videos also give me hope and a sense of pride as I watch all the interviews of the brave individuals that didn't fold to Trump. They stood on principles, morals and the Constitution and not fear. I am forever grateful for their courage.
@@dontbmadjusbcareful are you serious? You clearly live in a bubble to make this statement. Certain people always raises the bar. This man of color clearly loves his country but yet you still find an issue. Go lay down and take a nap.
*As a person that isn't colored I do not understand why you continue to vote for the same party that literally fought a war to keep you and your people in chains?*
It is best to not overestimate your current position in the world. The United States, as a governing system appears to be pretty weak at the moment, and it's up to the citizens to step up and show their strength and greatness, without losing their humanity. One would be a fool if they thought that Russia doesn't think of themselves as being the greatest country in the world. In fact, they think of themselves as the last remaining bearer of the cross of Christ (yes, really). The United States is a good country, yet it does have a lot of delusional, treasonous, rotten people, who, coincidentally, also think of themselves as servants of Jesus, despite being blatantly anti-Christian in their actions and words.
I know I am repeating myself when it comes to this guy who at first gave me hope when he stood on the stair case in Atlanta demanding the threats to stop for election workers until he stated" As the laws stand now there is nothing more we can do" At that moment, my hope deflated because true to form, the republicans worked to make voting much Harder for their constituents, targeting the democratic county the most and possibly allow the Sec. of State change the outcome of the votes; Raffensperger , a republican, is now fighting his own republican senators who voted to create a board to oversee his job which is unconstitutional. Small govern. my ass.
@peanutbutter3543 Thank you for the comment on how Republicans in Georgia made it extremely hard for democrats to vote especially by purging the black votes during the gubernatorial election. I was waiting for someone to comment on the purging of black votes. Thank you
AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LACK CRITICIAL THINKING SKILLS ARE MAGAMORONS REPUBLICANGOPers Trumpers, that goes to show you just how uneducated those people are.
Yup. Goons chasing clout online willing to tell people anything for clicks and likes. And an audience that wants to be lied to, rather than facing some hard truths..
Mr. Sterling: A voter suppression claim is NOT the same claim as saying an election was fradulent! Stacy Abrams was complaining about ballot access, which is backed up by legislative and physical evidence. She did not say the votes were fraudulent. Trump said the votes themselves were fraudulent without evidence! Big different.
You have a properly functioning moral compass, sir. I don’t understand why so many people who have sworn an oath of honesty and Constitutional adherence find it challenging to do the right thing when the heat gets turned up a little.
Yes, they stood on the law, in 2020, because it Was the law. The difference today is that the Law was changed so that they can legally do what they couldn't do in 2020
Similar to Mike Pence, yes he did the right thing when it really mattered, but the equivocations and justifications that he shields himself with, the fealty he displays is inexplicable. At minute 52:00 he talks about how there wasn't a "honeymoon" and that the Russiagate investigation was a hoax... no, it wasn't a hoax and it's ongoing right now in 2024. Smirnov was a spy and he had the entire GOP broadcasting his lies and disinformation.
Why should I be proud that he did his job and didn't become a traitor? I'm sick of Gabe's bothsidesism. There is no moral equivalence between republican wannabe fascists and the Democratic party.
"They started it," and "this is just the natural escalation that happens when both sides are doing it" just doesn't cut it when one party is trying to destroy Democracy. Hearing someone as conservative as this gives me hope that we will find a way to be the USA I'm proud to be a part.
Wisely and decently, Mr.Sterling followed the rules. Thank you. Then again, I'll always be sad that you don't like or respect Adam Schiff. I still adore President Carter. That's two strikes! On the other hand, you're someone who has thought about all the damage this ex-president has done, and you've weighed the pain of the Jan.6th people. That seems to mean you're both human and compassionate, so high props to you. : o )
What's striking to me are comments of astonishment that a *conservative* is intelligent, has principles, tells the truth. I worked on the Hill a little over 40 years ago for two Democratic Members of Congress. NOBODY assumed Republicans were dumb unprincipled liars. As a member of Barney Frank's staff we watched John McCain - then a freshman Member for AZ - make his first floor speech. *Everyone was impressed!* Nearly 80% of bills were non-partisan then. Both parties had shared goals. The debate was over how to accomplish them. I *get* Mr. Sterling's bewilderment.
Yes I really miss those times and I pray that we can get back to having a two party system with principled members that are willing to participate in informed and decent debate about issues that matter to the people! Desperately need to have judicial and political reform! With the dark money having crept into our SCOTUS, along with the lobbyists and extreme income disparity we are desperately going to need to reform our policies and re-enforce the guardrails that are in place and replace the ones that have been torn down!!! Need to help with all of these things just to get our heads above water!!
Quite fascinating! I have gotten more from this interview about the Georgia situation during the election than any media outlet covered. Gabriel Sterling is an example of a person who should be in charge of observing elections. His assertiveness towards upholding the role of law is what makes our nation GREAT. Partisanship has only made things worse for our democracy and as electors, we should be honest with ourselves and avoid anyone who stands in the way of democracy and who choose to ignore elections outcome unless they are the victor. Remember this can go both ways, so please let’s all try to avoid enabling those kind of leaders in our government.
I’ve gained a great respect for Mr. Sterling. Very serious and strong backbone. I’m a lifelong Democrat. I wish more politicians on both sides would have his character. Thank you.
Colorado has a five star voting system. They text me when my ballots coming. They text me again to remind me when it’s due and they text me when it’s been received that is how it should work.
My fear is that folks who didn't "live" through the time of Trump won't understand what a life-altering experience it is, and the reporting of the deleterious effects of his very existence might be softened with time. We can't let this happen.
omg i have been waiting for tthissssss, please say you have raffensburger omg.. all of these have been so interesting ( not american ) but love poltics great stuff
the most courageous people through all of this mess are the republicans like Gabe who voted for Trump, yet stood up for democracy. I hope there are enough people with this kind of courage in this country to make sure our system and country’s most vital institutions hold
I really respect and appreciate this dude…but just wondering…at 1:29:02 He says “I think Democrat ideas are bad for America in the long term, I just do”…I wonder if he would change his mind if someone took HIM through the evidence?
@@glennpeterson1357 Sounds like you can't accept that a sound man won't vote for a Democrat. Democrat ran states are horrible. All of America is right now tbh. The fact that Trump is selfish is what Americans believe America needs. We need to be selfish right now to take care of ourselves and not any other country or immigrant.
tribal loyalty trumps all. he's been a republican since he was 9. its difficult for a person to give up the tribe they have been affiliated to since they were a child. it goes deep.@@glennpeterson1357
Another excellent point! You can't compare Stacy Abrams LEGITIMATE complaints about voter SUPRESSION, to Trump's LIES about "stolen elections". His interview was filled with clear evidence that, even after all that he has been through, he still has a solid core of belief in false equivalencies. Even after all he saw and was subjected to he is simply incapable of a real awakening. He has a lot of courage. Unfortunately not enough.
Yeah. It’s comparing apples to park benches. There’s voter suppression (which can happen lots of ways, including gerrymandering, though that wouldn’t affect a statewide election), and then there’s accusing people of creating hundreds of thousands of votes.
People who say voter suppression are really saying they think black people are to dumb to know how to get an ID - the whole concept behind it is racist.
@@Carol-ow2rbyes he said a few things where he tried to both sides issues, and they shouldn't have been because they weren't comparable. There were some other things he said as well where he was being the typical Republican getting in his little digs against Democrats that I did not agree with either as an Independent.
@@TheInfokey Yes, but it can also be used to indicate a dichotomy. In any case, it is generally used to describe two seperate concepts, rather than different qualities of a single one, as you were doing here. I noticed you changed it to a comma, which I believe is better suited to this context. Cheers!
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." I'm glad we have people like Gabriel Sterling, he seems like a stand up guy. /cheers
Lovely man yet deep down a person who tried to justify Trump's behaviour. . Surprised how unhinged Trump was with that call????? UNHINGED!!!!! Trump has always been unhinged my dear man.
@@mattadams5541 😂😂😂hhgfhjhy ghffhhy America 😂 Biden is the worst and most crooked president in history he passed a crime bill on crack which locked up countless minorities yet his son was in his bathroom smoking rocks 🤦🏽♂️
@@Teddy_Graham You poor little guy. I've watched the entire interview before it was on You Tube, twice! He was very brave in standing up for truth and placing country before party. Sad that you're on the wrong side of history.
So when you say "This Man," who exactly are you referring to? You can't be describing the Orange Jesus as brave, are you? On the off chance you are referring to the Donald, and if you love the guy so much, send him your next paycheck. God knows he needs the money. Another thing Donald loves to do is to grift stupid, although well-meaning & hard-working folks out of their money! There's a saying you may have heard it... A fool and his money are soon parted.
This is the sort of person trump will never understand. Like the living and lost members of the military, this guy is about doing what’s right and serving the process and the citizens of the US, regardless of his own views or personal gain. trump will NEVER get that.
I don't know how this guy watched Trxmp claim that the election would be stolen for months before the election and still voted for him. Trxmp telegraphed the whole thing and this election official thought it was no big deal until he started getting threats.
Here's the thing that always puzzles folks. If Georgia possesses so much common sense, how do the good people of the Georgia 14th District conclude that Margorie Taylor Green is the best representative? Are there no other competent and normal Republicans who could do a better job than this nutter? If MTG is the best the 14th district can come up with, well, that's just sad!
GA voter here, and it could have been MY vote trump was trying to THROW OUT that faithful day, over that infamous phone call. I lived in Fulton county too. Thank you honest public servants who preserved my vote. Every vote counts, especially in GA.
@@mattadams5541 I'm not sure. She would have run against someone in the Democrat Party, but I don't know if she was challenged in a primary. It's a good question.
Please show me ONE thing AOC said or tweeted that’s “crazy” or in anyway comparable to Jewish space lasers or any other BS from MTG. Both sides my ass.
I've watched this many times and I learn something new each time. Gabriel Sterling is certainly an asset to Georgia and to The United States of America. Thank You Mr. Sterling
I was a bit amazed to hear his opinion that there was nothing to the Russia investigation after listening to the interview that gave me the impression he was very informed of events.
It’s a deep well. He obviously took Barr’s summation of the Mueller Report at face value, as opposed to reading all the news report about how Mueller was unhappy with Barr’s interpretation of the Report.
Thank you for reinforcing my view. I agreed with most of what Gabriel was saying, however, his bothsidesing and AOC/MTG comparison gave me a moment of heartburn!
I am a Democrat but I do have much respect for this honest, true Republican man than I ever had for any politician. I am listening to this now almost 4 years from when it happened and I still remember that speech he gave, he was angry but he got his point out very straight. I will always remember when he said … it has to STOP somebody is going to get kill… it is still give me the goose bumps
☝️🇺🇲 Yes, I remember when this happened, & he went on TV to tell Trump, & Trumps followers to stop with the threats.It's a shame however that to this day, threats are still being made to anyone who opposes Trump.
I remember that press conference so well. Thank u for being the voice of reason; speaking with authority about the potential harm this lie could've caused.
“That’s just political crap.” No, no, no, NO! What Gabriel Sterling means to say is ‘That’s just partisan crap.’ Stop misusing the words ‘political’ and ‘politicize’ by substituting them for ‘partisan’ and ‘making (too) partisan’. Why? Because it turns politics, the art of the possible, or of getting policy done, turning it into a negative when it should have no value, negative or positive, in and of itself. Yes, there can be ‘bad politics’, or not getting policy done completely or the way the policy was intended or by some unethical means or for some reason ulterior to the public good. Conversely, good politics is getting policy completely done the way it was intended by ethical means for the public good. It should be recognized that any partisanship can do either. Likewise, a politician is merely somebody who gets policy done, most commonly understood as somebody elected to an assembly or council to get policy done. A politician can be right-wing, left-wing, Independent, or from some other party or partisanship. Unfortunately, politics-getting public policy done-has become so partisan that politicians and their supporters cannot work together cooperatively with compromises acknowledging that not everybody can get everything chi wants all at one time, so partisan that each different party cannot constructively contribute to the public good. Naturally like-minded people have their ideas about how the public good can be best obtained and, when they convene as a political party, they should be able to brainstorm, debate, compromise, and cooperate to develop policy proposals ready for vetting and representing to the assembly for elected politicians’ parliamentary votes-the politics of getting cogent policy proposals done (at least passed into law). The parliament (assembly, commons, council, congress, &c) does the same thing but at another level: elected politicians of different parties are more formally bound to a procedure that mirrors the policy-making process by parties: debate (‘parliament’ literally means ‘the place to publicly debate policy proposals’), compromise (‘horse-trading,’ ‘arm-twisting,’ ‘giving and returning favours,’ ‘give and little, take a little’, &c), cooperation (speaking to the parliament and its committees, and voting on the proposal) and acknowledgment that the process was done ethically, completely, properly, and for the same reason with which each politician, regardless partisanship, concurs: the good of the people and the nation. It is equally natural that, although the vast majority of policy is unanimously supported, some issues are disliked by one party but favoured by another-sometimes even diametrically opposed. Democracy is deployed to resolve an impasse: the voters decide which party will be in a parliamentary position to get its policy proposals done by relative weight in numbers of elected, party-affiliated politicians. Nevertheless, politics, or the political process, is always at work: despite party whips, a politician might not support every policy of cher own party; a party might change its draft legislation because of ideas from another party that make it better for the public; the electorate might disapprove of a law that got through the political and partisan processes but didn’t work so well ‘on the ground’ so that parties must consider how to better sell it to the electorate, amend, or rescind it-which is also a kind of politics. Finally, even when contentious policy was enacted by the normal, partisan, political, psephological and parliamentary processes and one party, one which didn’t win the majority (or win government-multi-party elections to the Westminster parliamentary system allows for minority governments when no single party of three or more wins a majority-Congress happens to have only two parties and a few Independents) strongly disapproves, it may speak against it in the legislature and in the ‘court of public opinion’ in order to persuade voters for the other party to switch sides in the next election or pressure their own party to amend or rescind the contentious policy (but not switch parties) or, at last resort, appeal to the courts to overturn the contentious law. This is the important point: the rule of law exists because the political process is done properly to a universal standard -not because there is partisan contention. Rather, the rule of law can deal with partisan contention because politics is done properly-that is, completely for the public good. Politics underpins the rule of law and therefore the government of the nation; politics gets needed policy done despite partisan contention. Properly done, it is the art upon which all good things depend and the source from which all good things are achieved in the public realm. It should never be used as a pejorative. Mr Sterling appears to value the rule of law, political and psephological (election-systems, voting-systems, campaigning, &c) processes, even while maintaining a partisan position. He of all people should not make Trump’s dismissal of government and politics worse by adopting the pejorative misuse of the word politics. Politics is as good as it is necessary. I’ll assume he misspoke, probably because the anti-government temper of the times has made “politics” into an insult. I get that he meant ‘politicization’ to mean ‘too partisan’-that is, almost totally chauvinistic, totally prejudiced against any position but its own, and viewing people of other partisanships as the epitome of evil. I hope I’ve made the case that misusing the word ‘politics’ is effectively contributing (in his case, unwittingly-because the misuse is now as common as chauvinistic partisanship) to this kind of hyper-partisanship which is, ultimately, incapable of good politics or, in Trump’s case, of any politics at all. PS: Trump gins hyper-chauvinistic partisanship but only values the GOP for the votes it gives him, not as a source of cogent policy proposals. That’s because he has only one partisanship, himself, just like he has only one patriotism, again himself. Ironic, no?
Well-said, but at least from my perspective the Republican Party was dead in 2016 and the Democratic Party wasn't much better. It would be difficult to claim that a listless Party without a real platform could be valued in any other way than what you described. Trump ran as a populist, doing a lot of what Sterling described--giving people who felt oppressed a voice, and pushing back against what had increasingly become a belligerent and oppressive status quo against, especially, Christian conservatives, giving way to lawless and boundary-less radical "leftism" (what used to be called liberalism or "progressive liberalism" until the movement effectively died with Hillary's campaign). I voted for Hillary, but only because the FBI had announced their investigation into Trump. I would have likely voted for Joe Biden had he run, being wholly ignorant of the entire Ukraine operation, if only because at the time he would have "cmon man'ed" the radicals into submission and issued ice cream trucks for everyone. Sterling here seems to fail to recognize that Trump is not part of the "political swamp" he is directly criticizing, and is repeating some of the propaganda that has been floating around in both Democrat and Republican circles. He doesn't understand the "tactics" because he doesn't see what it was that the January 6th riots interrupted: the official contesting of the votes of Pennsylvania and Arizona, and possibly that of Georgia. He seemingly also does not see the full connection between the lack of standing in the other State trials and the need for "certified" data from places like Georgia where there had been numerous claims of voter fraud and a variety of examples of machine malfunction and questionable conduct. It is a matter of legal interpretation whether election observers leaving under the impression of a stoppage represents a Constitutional violation of the rights of both Parties. I wonder if he watched Schiff's speech on January 6th.
Mr Sterling, thank you so much for standing your ground and not budging to coercion. God bless you and stay healthy, starting by ditching the sugary drinks.
This was a lovely interview. Athough there were many dark aspects of the interview, like the death threats, I had fun watching it. So much background information that most of the public doesn't know about. I'm a lifelong Democrat (not the angry one lol), but this guy sounds like a pretty great person representing the citizens of America. "We all hated fractions when we were kids, so a fractional vote sounds terrible". I'm a fan of this guy for sure. 👍🏼
Worth a listen in its entirety, but this excerpt from the Transcript is crucial: Front Line: “Now, as you look back, and having lived through that moment that you described, what do you make of that, that he was told repeatedly by very respectable officials that the claims weren't true?” 42:44 Gabriel Sterling “It wasn't what he wanted to hear. It wasn't what he wanted to hear. He chose to listen to the things he wanted to hear.” 42:50 Frontline: “… To your mind, does that make him more responsible? “ Gabriel Sterling: “Look, President Trump is 100% responsible for all of this.”
A normal procedural task of running an election turns into a nightmare. Thank you Gabe Sterling for standing firm and having a spine. Democracy was hanging in the balance. And you chose democracy. I can only imagine the immense pressure you were under. Real life heroes!!
I remember Mr. Sterling standing on the right side of history during that time. I appreciated the speech he made back then, too. Excellent. None of that whole situation could've been easy to deal with. Nice to hear a rational, honorable Republican tell us what really happened.
"His own selfishness has caused this much chaos" I'm sorry but maybe you could've noticed that was one of this man's traits at any point before the election?
This is the kind of person with logic and reason needed to run the office of presidency, with honest values and morals - is Gabriel Sterling a member of the Maga party or does he and Liz Cheney and members the Gop, try to rebuild Gop under a new banner?
I’m gonna have to say the Republican party needs to change their position and their agenda before I would Ever respect them again. They still want women dying or barefoot and pregnant with no healthcare unless you’re on the last breath of your life I’ve got a problem with that.
He's not wrong on that. There were plenty of such claims in the Abrams/Kemp election, and Abrams still hasn't conceded that race btw. And he was also clear on where and when the respective claims were made. I don't see any both-sidism here.
@@mickeythompson24 Read again what I wrote, please. I know that very well, but that's not my point. I'm not saying he hasn't, and the fucker needs to rot in hell, and first in prison for a long time, for many reasons. I'm just saying that accusations of both-sidism aren't warranted here. N.B.: I'm European and I'm absolutely appalled about anything coming from the Republicans since the Nixon times. I don't want any Republican to come even close to the White House or any public office, not just for the sake of the US but the entire world
@@Karlthegreat84I really can't blame her. Kemp did some manipulation of the voter rolls when he was secretary of state. However, her lack of concession didn't threaten our democracy as Trump's has done.
Brian Kemp basically influenced the outcome of the first Governors election since he was SOS, and there was the whole Kennessaw State Server scandal… Abrams had every right to not believe Kemp would play fair again. There is no both side ism, i agree, because it’s largely (note this word) ONE side.
When you think you’re with the good guys, but they then make you the bad guy. This is what every normal decent republican faces if trump gets in. You will be randomly shoved under your nearest bus. Then all that you hold dear will just be a thumpity thumpity noise to those riding on beds of republican contributions inside the bus.
Trump told Ohio in the middle of the worst blizzard and below zero temperatures. It doesn’t matter if you’re sick or if you die. It was more important to vote for him
He's always been more worried about his passing joy than our lives. 3,000 Americans a day were perishing and he said "quit testing them"and "that's all the media talks about" .. his poor poll numbers!
After 9/11 he bragged about how "I guess, I got the tallest building in New York, now?" He once said, quite recently I believe, that he didn't want to be seen on stage with an amputee or disabled vet?
Trump used to tell people visiting New York years ago - “Welcome to New York - home of wonderful buildings like the Chrysler Building - the Empire State Building and the two(2) boxes in lower Manhattan that those buildings came in
His strategy was to rally his millions of supporters to fight for him and themselves for the outcome that they want and to hell with the law or the truth.
We do seem to have a slim pickings for upstanding constitutional oath abide GOP at this moment so when you do find one you must tell them they did the right thing you do not have to agree with their agenda, but we need to bring our country back together again
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Thank you for this item. What an inspiration for us to aspire to such integrity. God bless Mr. Sterling.
I remember when u came out and gave your speech Gabe! Well a few speeches, but I think we all know the one. THANK YOU sir.. sincerely. I remember wondering if ANYONE gave a damn about the truth around that time .. u knew the risk .. but u set an EXAMPLE by getting up there and telling it like it was. thankyou sir. Seeing u get up there and ACTUALLY care about the repercussions of what was happening gave me hope. And I'm sure millions feel the same.
Yes. I remember posting a picture of him making that famous speech where he said, “ Mr. President, someone is going to get hurt, someone is going to get killed.” He was my hero then and still is. Integrity is admirable.
@@sherryedwards2001 I couldn't agree more man.
I will never ever ever forget Gabriel Sterling ! That needed to be said . The tactic ? Trump is a spoiled immature out of control child and needed to be talked to the way Gabriel did
It was foreign to him; “Give me a break guys, you are Republicans, you should do this”. Didn’t occurred to him that there is some higher level of loyalty to the law and the constitution. Now, that was a handful. 🤔 George Washington will still be president if the constitution had allowed room for people to fold and cave in under pressure from a seating president.
Fascinating interview. I'm sincerely amazed as a European to hear intelligent conversation from a conservative.
Not for a moment I lost my attention, as he talks in such vivid images.
Thank you very much for posting this.
Very well said, I was also riveted to this great interview. I was waiting to see or hear of ANY platform Former President Trump might by chance have for THIS ELECTION YEAR? still waiting.
@pauldionne1665 have you heard about the 2025 project?
@@rcpilot179I have but I have no idea what that is?
@@pauldionne1665 you were hearing from a guy whose entire life was ruined by that guy? I don't understand why you'd want to hear that?
what? examine your biases haha
During this time period, I was able to watch Gabriel live on the local news during the day. I would see and hear his detailed explanations of what was taking place during the count and recounts (3 in total). Including the time, as he says, he lost his temper. His explanations alleviated any misgivings I may have had about vote counting in Georgia. It also made me realize that much of what I was hearing about in the other swing states was undoubtedly being misrepresented by Donald and his sycophants.
This interview provided an excellent summary and chronological presentation of the events. I only wish that those who support the Don and still believe the voter fraud conspiracies would take the time to watch and take to heart what Gabriel emoted in this interview.
MAGA Trump Sycophants: MAGATS.
Something he said during the interview really brought home the situation we are in. He explained everything to a friend who thought the Democrats cheated. He went point by point and the friend understood and agreed with his explanation. Then his friend said he thought Democrats still cheated. When facts, complete with commentary, from an insider who is trusted -- don't matter, where do we go from here?
@@meanpersonable it’s the epistemological crisis that imperils our nation and civilization, and I don’t see how it gets better the farther into the rabbit hole we go.
@@meanpersonable We will be intimate with the joy of the North Koreans
@@hollydowns2279 the first few hours, days, weeks of another DJT Presidency will be all the proof either side of this issue needs. If he attempts what he and his handlers claim he is going to do and people go along, then it's all over but the joy.
Thank you, Mr. Sterling. Job well done, sir.
These documentaries are brilliant. They will stand the test of time. Thank you, Frontline, for doing this 🇺🇸
interviewing a single person isn't a documentary, its an interview.
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Aren't you just delightful? 😘
Absolutely agreed! I still go back to "Putin and the Presidents" and "Lies, Politics, and Democracy" from a year to a year and a half ago, and those two still hold up in spite of everything that's happened since.
I'm glad you are an honest man. Thank you Gabriel Sterling.
Gabriel Sterling is sharp, clear, and to the point. Excellent interview!
Completely agree. I have watched this a few times now. Easy to listen and follow.
Frontline these interviews r exemplary journalism
Gabriel Sterling is a very brave man. This is a tale of how easily things can spin out of control over lies to remain in power.
I remember that speech. It was awesome. I thought that speech was one of the best I've ever seen. It makes me so sad that it didn't move more people. You are not the only Republican I've respected. You are certainly in the top 10. I'm a lifelong Democrat. I am terrified and glad I'm 77 and not 27.
On that last point. Right? It must be nice knowing you won't live long enough to see this nation potentially go to shit.
I'm not a Republican,, but I am a Georgia voter. I really respect Gabe Sterling and the way he represents Georgia!
Do you vote at 2am ? With 50 ballots ? No ? LOLOLOLOL 1000s of Democrat Hack Slugs did. 2020. Stolen.
"President's are supposed to be the example." Mr Sterling, YOU are the best of us. YOU are the example I tell my kids to follow. Thank you for speaking truth and standing on that line for our future.
A great man with, integrity, honesty, standing up for American democracy.
Thank you, Mr. Sterling, for your honesty.
"Presidents are supposed to be the best of us." Great line.
And people voted for the Orange Criminal twice. Like his first term benefitted ANYONE. Except perhaps the 1%. And himself and his family.
Best of 340 million? When has that ever happened?
When radio came out they had to have a radio personality. Video came out and they had to have a good TV personality and populartity came with it. Humans are too flawed to pick in such a way.
@@exaltedone2799 Probably, ONLY a few times. But striving for the best is way better than demanding the absolute WORST. In history.
Trumpie and MAGA have got to be this nation’s worst?! EVER !!!
As a lifelong Georgian I'm extremely proud to have Gabriel Sterling as one of our own. Integrity and courage like his is rare, especially in the field of politics.
Dido 💙💙
Why? He says he's voting for Trump again, and also the January 6th enablers. He's a phony.
You should... I remember seeing him for the first time when he said "we pronounce it Houston (Hausten)" in a press conference. He and Raffensberger are really heroes.
Yet the Georgia courts have ruled the elections tampered with by egregious fraud, whatever government agitprop he is spewing to revise recent history is appalling. Those exposing how Georgia's voting machines were not only accessible to the internet and with a list of unknown people on these machines during the count, while testifying he was asked if it were possible to hack the ballot counting machine in the court room and the expert testifying did so right before the judge. The judge ruled the ballot counting machines compromised and not capable of conducting a count, yet Georgia failed leadership literally ignored this and said they'd use them for 2024 regardless. Study after study done has displayed the mail-in ballots the criminal entryway for all fraud to commence, exactly why signature matching was removed from the count and denied from any further inquiry into what happened election night.
So you are ok with the MASSIVE FRAUD that went down in your state?
The FACT that there was MASSIVE FRAUD in Georgia, as well as in many other states, was GLARINGLY OBIVOUS, starting with the VIDEO EVIDENCE of the content of suitcases of ballots that came out from under tables after a polling station had been officially closed over a non-existent "water leak".
The video shows several individuals feeding ballots through ballot counting machines multiple times.
After the mysterious middle-of-the-night suspension, when the polling station came back online, they had added more than 100K votes for Biden, virtually none for Trump, which totally went against the trend of the day, where Trump consistently had a lead over Biden!
No such discrepancy was observed even in heavily blue districts in places like California and NY. Even in the bluest districts, Trump performed rather well. He NEVER dropped down to virtually zero any number of ballots. Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE to suddenly "find" 100K ballots in a row that were exclusively for Biden.
In addition, in the States that are most disputed, hundreds of thousands of ballots had ONLY a Biden vote, without votes for the House or the Senate!
What are the odds that hundreds of thousands go to the polls, but do NOT vote for the house or the senate?
Why would they do that?
Because if they had added house or senate votes to the FAKE ballots, the Republican leadership would have been FORCED to oppose the fraud. As they were very happy to get rid of Trump, they did NOT oppose the obvious fraud against him.
Very Informative! We need more like this!
As a person of color I love my country. Regardless of the political climate under Trump, I still feel this is the greatest country in the world. I feel blessed to have been born here and raise my family here. Watching all these videos help me realize just how fragile our democracy can be when in the hands of the wrong leader. But these videos also give me hope and a sense of pride as I watch all the interviews of the brave individuals that didn't fold to Trump. They stood on principles, morals and the Constitution and not fear. I am forever grateful for their courage.
Why would you feel the need to disclose that you are a person of color.
@@dontbmadjusbcareful are you serious? You clearly live in a bubble to make this statement. Certain people always raises the bar. This man of color clearly loves his country but yet you still find an issue. Go lay down and take a nap.
*As a person that isn't colored I do not understand why you continue to vote for the same party that literally fought a war to keep you and your people in chains?*
It is best to not overestimate your current position in the world. The United States, as a governing system appears to be pretty weak at the moment, and it's up to the citizens to step up and show their strength and greatness, without losing their humanity.
One would be a fool if they thought that Russia doesn't think of themselves as being the greatest country in the world. In fact, they think of themselves as the last remaining bearer of the cross of Christ (yes, really).
The United States is a good country, yet it does have a lot of delusional, treasonous, rotten people, who, coincidentally, also think of themselves as servants of Jesus, despite being blatantly anti-Christian in their actions and words.
@@dontbmadjusbcareful Where have you been?
I know I am repeating myself when it comes to this guy who at first gave me hope when he stood on the stair case in Atlanta demanding the threats to stop for election workers until he stated" As the laws stand now there is nothing more we can do"
At that moment, my hope deflated because true to form, the republicans worked to make voting much Harder for their constituents, targeting the democratic county the most and possibly allow the Sec. of State change the outcome of the votes; Raffensperger , a republican, is now fighting his own republican senators who voted to create a board to oversee his job which is unconstitutional. Small govern. my ass.
The Republican Party is just SCUM !!!!!
@peanutbutter3543
Thank you for the comment on how Republicans in Georgia made it extremely hard for democrats to vote especially by purging the black votes during the gubernatorial election. I was waiting for someone to comment on the purging of black votes. Thank you
Did it show the power of social media? I guess. But to me, it showed more the power of people who lack critical thinking skills.
Well said, I agree.
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AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LACK CRITICIAL THINKING SKILLS ARE MAGAMORONS REPUBLICANGOPers Trumpers, that goes to show you just how uneducated those people are.
The power of racism
Yup. Goons chasing clout online willing to tell people anything for clicks and likes. And an audience that wants to be lied to, rather than facing some hard truths..
Mr. Sterling: A voter suppression claim is NOT the same claim as saying an election was fradulent!
Stacy Abrams was complaining about ballot access, which is backed up by legislative and physical evidence. She did not say the votes were fraudulent.
Trump said the votes themselves were fraudulent without evidence! Big different.
You have a properly functioning moral compass, sir. I don’t understand why so many people who have sworn an oath of honesty and Constitutional adherence find it challenging to do the right thing when the heat gets turned up a little.
Good for Georgia officials who are standing up for democracy.
Yes, they stood on the law, in 2020, because it Was the law. The difference today is that the Law was changed so that they can legally do what they couldn't do in 2020
It does make me feel better about our democracy that so many officials stood up for the law and constitution.
Similar to Mike Pence, yes he did the right thing when it really mattered, but the equivocations and justifications that he shields himself with, the fealty he displays is inexplicable. At minute 52:00 he talks about how there wasn't a "honeymoon" and that the Russiagate investigation was a hoax... no, it wasn't a hoax and it's ongoing right now in 2024. Smirnov was a spy and he had the entire GOP broadcasting his lies and disinformation.
Don't praise them just yet. Nearly all these guys say voting for Trump again, and also the January 6th enablers. They're phonies.
Again, we are not a Democracy. Everyone knows this guy left his job, went to work for Dominion and then came back. He's a plant.
Thank you. These interviews are really great to watch and paint such a detailed picture.
I am also a lifelong resident of the great state of Georgia. I am proud of Gabe. These are the conservative Republicans that I know.
Why should I be proud that he did his job and didn't become a traitor? I'm sick of Gabe's bothsidesism. There is no moral equivalence between republican wannabe fascists and the Democratic party.
It's such a shithole here.
"They started it," and "this is just the natural escalation that happens when both sides are doing it" just doesn't cut it when one party is trying to destroy Democracy. Hearing someone as conservative as this gives me hope that we will find a way to be the USA I'm proud to be a part.
The world needs more people like Mr. Sterling. It's unfortunate that telling the truth is heroic.
He is a shameless LIAR. He will be brought to account for them though. Truth persists much longer than lies.
@lenfirewood4089. Any evidence to base your claim? I suspect not but go ahead and surprise me.
Wisely and decently, Mr.Sterling followed the rules. Thank you. Then again, I'll always be sad that you don't like or respect Adam Schiff. I still adore President Carter. That's two strikes! On the other hand, you're someone who has thought about all the damage this ex-president has done, and you've weighed the pain of the Jan.6th people. That seems to mean you're both human and compassionate, so high props to you. : o )
Gabriel Sterling is a true 🇺🇸!
Standing up for the American Democracy is more noble than being a Democrat or Republican.
What's striking to me are comments of astonishment that a *conservative* is intelligent, has principles, tells the truth. I worked on the Hill a little over 40 years ago for two Democratic Members of Congress. NOBODY assumed Republicans were dumb unprincipled liars. As a member of Barney Frank's staff we watched John McCain - then a freshman Member for AZ - make his first floor speech. *Everyone was impressed!* Nearly 80% of bills were non-partisan then. Both parties had shared goals. The debate was over how to accomplish them. I *get* Mr. Sterling's bewilderment.
Yes I really miss those times and I pray that we can get back to having a two party system with principled members that are willing to participate in informed and decent debate about issues that matter to the people! Desperately need to have judicial and political reform! With the dark money having crept into our SCOTUS, along with the lobbyists and extreme income disparity we are desperately going to need to reform our policies and re-enforce the guardrails that are in place and replace the ones that have been torn down!!! Need to help with all of these things just to get our heads above water!!
Quite fascinating! I have gotten more from this interview about the Georgia situation during the election than any media outlet covered. Gabriel Sterling is an example of a person who should be in charge of observing elections. His assertiveness towards upholding the role of law is what makes our nation GREAT. Partisanship has only made things worse for our democracy and as electors, we should be honest with ourselves and avoid anyone who stands in the way of democracy and who choose to ignore elections outcome unless they are the victor. Remember this can go both ways, so please let’s all try to avoid enabling those kind of leaders in our government.
Thank you for being the adult in the room
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I’ve gained a great respect for Mr. Sterling. Very serious and strong backbone. I’m a lifelong Democrat. I wish more politicians on both sides would have his character. Thank you.
Gabriel Sterling is a modern day patriot. Thank you for your leadership and public service.
He literally has said that he'll vote for Trump again. So did Raffensperger and Kemp.
@@megancunningham9471
We all want to see at least some hint of humanity in them, that's why they often get praised for almost nothing.
Thank you Mr Sterling for continuing to share truths and not conspiracies or fantasies we need more people like you
Georgia you did a wonderful job thank you for being honest for we the people
Thank you for your servise and your honesty and courage it took. To tell the truth
Colorado has a five star voting system. They text me when my ballots coming. They text me again to remind me when it’s due and they text me when it’s been received that is how it should work.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING UP & SO WELL FOR US!!
My fear is that folks who didn't "live" through the time of Trump won't understand what a life-altering experience it is, and the reporting of the deleterious effects of his very existence might be softened with time. We can't let this happen.
Well he's probably going to win again this time around, so we'll be lucky to be able to write a correct history.
The same fear was expressed after the time of Hitler. Yet, here we are. So sad.
This guy is a National Treasure, we need more people like this on both sides.
Thank God for people with integrity like Gabe he truly is a guardian of democracy His parents named him well
Excellent interview
Everyone needs to see this series. We are living in serious times, and Jan 6th will seems like a party compared to what we will see next.
omg i have been waiting for tthissssss, please say you have raffensburger omg.. all of these have been so interesting ( not american ) but love poltics
great stuff
It's truly sad how many foreigners keep up more with US politics than many of our citizens 😢
@@suzboneThat's because it's a soap opera that could end in nuclear war.
I agree🇳🇴. Going to see them all.
Even though he is a Republican I am glad that we have honorable ppl like him in politics.
If tfg should win, he'll get rid of anyone who has any moral standing.
@@OneSkyWarrior. He won’t. 🤘🏼
Except that he probably will. Biden's numbers are far worse than Hillary Clinton's in the last election. @@mattadams5541
Not for long if he is a honest person they will throw him our of the Republican party.
"Honorable" 😂😂
Everyone inspired by Gabriel, let's keep this energy going and work with each other!!
Slamming certain elected officials isn't really a positive thing. He is sipping the kool-aid....
the most courageous people through all of this mess are the republicans like Gabe who voted for Trump, yet stood up for democracy. I hope there are enough people with this kind of courage in this country to make sure our system and country’s most vital institutions hold
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Absolute rubbish! They did their job and followed the law! Now that makes them "the most courageous people"???? I would EXPECT nothing less!
It's their job. Not heroic in any way. It's what they are paid to do
Impossible to vote for Trump and be for democracy.
Georgia's Early Voting polls were crowded last week; democracy must win!
Thank you sir !!❤
"But I know in my heart they cheated" which really means "I'm unable to swallow my pride and admit I've been a gullible fool"
I really respect and appreciate this dude…but just wondering…at 1:29:02 He says “I think Democrat ideas are bad for America in the long term, I just do”…I wonder if he would change his mind if someone took HIM through the evidence?
@@glennpeterson1357 Sounds like you can't accept that a sound man won't vote for a Democrat. Democrat ran states are horrible. All of America is right now tbh. The fact that Trump is selfish is what Americans believe America needs. We need to be selfish right now to take care of ourselves and not any other country or immigrant.
tribal loyalty trumps all. he's been a republican since he was 9. its difficult for a person to give up the tribe they have been affiliated to since they were a child. it goes deep.@@glennpeterson1357
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
@glennpeterson1357 🙄 good luck with that....
Well, to be fair Stacey Abrams Claim is about voter suppression which is not a lie and she accepts that he was certified.
Another excellent point! You can't compare Stacy Abrams LEGITIMATE complaints about voter SUPRESSION, to Trump's LIES about "stolen elections". His interview was filled with clear evidence that, even after all that he has been through, he still has a solid core of belief in false equivalencies. Even after all he saw and was subjected to he is simply incapable of a real awakening. He has a lot of courage. Unfortunately not enough.
Yeah. It’s comparing apples to park benches. There’s voter suppression (which can happen lots of ways, including gerrymandering, though that wouldn’t affect a statewide election), and then there’s accusing people of creating hundreds of thousands of votes.
Yeah, I don’t like the both sides bullshit! It is not even close. He also made a comment regarding AOC and compared her to Marjorie Taylor Green.
People who say voter suppression are really saying they think black people are to dumb to know how to get an ID - the whole concept behind it is racist.
@@Carol-ow2rbyes he said a few things where he tried to both sides issues, and they shouldn't have been because they weren't comparable. There were some other things he said as well where he was being the typical Republican getting in his little digs against Democrats that I did not agree with either as an Independent.
Gabriel Sterling , A true American
I think I get what you're saying, but the use of the slash (/) is somewhat confusing to me.
@@rigelb9025 A forward slash is used between two statements or words to indicate a relationship.
@@TheInfokey Yes, but it can also be used to indicate a dichotomy. In any case, it is generally used to describe two seperate concepts, rather than different qualities of a single one, as you were doing here. I noticed you changed it to a comma, which I believe is better suited to this context. Cheers!
I'm proud as an American for what this man stands for he defended our country our democracy ❤.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." I'm glad we have people like Gabriel Sterling, he seems like a stand up guy. /cheers
Lovely man yet deep down a person who tried to justify Trump's behaviour. . Surprised how unhinged Trump was with that call????? UNHINGED!!!!! Trump has always been unhinged my dear man.
Well put.
Unhinged??? What is Biden🤔
@@koimatai4600. He passes legislation. Trumpie couldn’t wipe his arse. 💥🤘🏼
And don't forget, this man was pro Reagan, a bad actor in B movies and politics, and a disgrace in foreign policy.
@@mattadams5541 😂😂😂hhgfhjhy ghffhhy America 😂 Biden is the worst and most crooked president in history he passed a crime bill on crack which locked up countless minorities yet his son was in his bathroom smoking rocks 🤦🏽♂️
This man has some of the bravest words in US HISTORY 🇺🇲🇮🇱🇺🇦
You haven’t watched the documentary and already lying.
@@Teddy_GrahamSAD TROLL
Still a Trump lover.. makes him an idiot..
@@Teddy_Graham You poor little guy. I've watched the entire interview before it was on You Tube, twice! He was very brave in standing up for truth and placing country before party. Sad that you're on the wrong side of history.
So when you say "This Man," who exactly are you referring to? You can't be describing the Orange Jesus as brave, are you? On the off chance you are referring to the Donald, and if you love the guy so much, send him your next paycheck. God knows he needs the money. Another thing Donald loves to do is to grift stupid, although well-meaning & hard-working folks out of their money! There's a saying you may have heard it... A fool and his money are soon parted.
This man is a hero. We need more reasonable people in power, people who tell the dang truth!
He loves Trump's policies and was a total supporter of him before these events. He isn't a reasonable person.
This is the sort of person trump will never understand. Like the living and lost members of the military, this guy is about doing what’s right and serving the process and the citizens of the US, regardless of his own views or personal gain. trump will NEVER get that.
I am so lost how anyone can listen to these interviews and still vote for Trump. He has showed how incompetent and dishonest he is.
I don't know how this guy watched Trxmp claim that the election would be stolen for months before the election and still voted for him. Trxmp telegraphed the whole thing and this election official thought it was no big deal until he started getting threats.
So true. The only explanation is, it's a classic conspiracy laden brainwashing cult following.
They won’t watch the interviews
@@catcadenza2493 Yes. That too.
Better of 2 evils
This man has ethics and morals. Something rare for all public officials rather Republican or Democrat.
Thank you Georgia. Common sense. Love your state ✨🇺🇸✨💙✨
Common sense but he voted R all down the line. HOW could anyone vote for a Trump?
Here's the thing that always puzzles folks. If Georgia possesses so much common sense, how do the good people of the Georgia 14th District conclude that Margorie Taylor Green is the best representative? Are there no other competent and normal Republicans who could do a better job than this nutter? If MTG is the best the 14th district can come up with, well, that's just sad!
GA voter here, and it could have been MY vote trump was trying to THROW OUT that faithful day, over that infamous phone call. I lived in Fulton county too.
Thank you honest public servants who preserved my vote. Every vote counts, especially in GA.
@@clarencelee8852. Did she run against someone or un opposed??
@@mattadams5541 I'm not sure. She would have run against someone in the Democrat Party, but I don't know if she was challenged in a primary. It's a good question.
Please show me ONE thing AOC said or tweeted that’s “crazy” or in anyway comparable to Jewish space lasers or any other BS from MTG. Both sides my ass.
I've watched this many times and I learn something new each time. Gabriel Sterling is certainly an asset to Georgia and to The United States of America. Thank You Mr. Sterling
I was a bit amazed to hear his opinion that there was nothing to the Russia investigation after listening to the interview that gave me the impression he was very informed of events.
It’s a deep well. He obviously took Barr’s summation of the Mueller Report at face value, as opposed to reading all the news report about how Mueller was unhappy with Barr’s interpretation of the Report.
He didn’t read the report, because there was widespread and systematic Russian interference, proven!
Trump only won because of Russian bots.
He's an imperfect republican.
Really... since it's clear there WAS something to it... makes me think he gets his news from Fox.
Thank you
Another "both sides" Republican. Like AOC even begins to compare to MTG...
I appreciate him fighting to keep his reputation and job.
Yeah, Abrams conceded. You can see the video by googling it. I guess even the ones who placed country before party are liars too.
Thank you for reinforcing my view. I agreed with most of what Gabriel was saying, however, his bothsidesing and AOC/MTG comparison gave me a moment of heartburn!
Where would they be without the false equivocation
Well said
I know, totally agree. Thus guy stood up to defend the constitution BUT I think he'll still vote for Trump next time. 😊
I am a Democrat but I do have much respect for this honest, true Republican man than I ever had for any politician. I am listening to this now almost 4 years from when it happened and I still remember that speech he gave, he was angry but he got his point out very straight. I will always remember when he said … it has to STOP somebody is going to get kill… it is still give me the goose bumps
☝️🇺🇲 Yes, I remember when this happened, & he went on TV to tell Trump, & Trumps followers to stop with the threats.It's a shame however that to this day, threats are still being made to anyone who opposes Trump.
Yes. He strongly warned that "someone was going to get killed". A few days later... they did.
As a Liberal Woman You are a good Man. Not a lot Men reach that level in my book. Thank you.
question will he vote for him again?
I remember that press conference so well. Thank u for being the voice of reason; speaking with authority about the potential harm this lie could've caused.
“That’s just political crap.”
No, no, no, NO!
What Gabriel Sterling means to say is ‘That’s just partisan crap.’
Stop misusing the words ‘political’ and ‘politicize’ by substituting them for ‘partisan’ and ‘making (too) partisan’.
Why? Because it turns politics, the art of the possible, or of getting policy done, turning it into a negative when it should have no value, negative or positive, in and of itself. Yes, there can be ‘bad politics’, or not getting policy done completely or the way the policy was intended or by some unethical means or for some reason ulterior to the public good. Conversely, good politics is getting policy completely done the way it was intended by ethical means for the public good. It should be recognized that any partisanship can do either.
Likewise, a politician is merely somebody who gets policy done, most commonly understood as somebody elected to an assembly or council to get policy done. A politician can be right-wing, left-wing, Independent, or from some other party or partisanship.
Unfortunately, politics-getting public policy done-has become so partisan that politicians and their supporters cannot work together cooperatively with compromises acknowledging that not everybody can get everything chi wants all at one time, so partisan that each different party cannot constructively contribute to the public good.
Naturally like-minded people have their ideas about how the public good can be best obtained and, when they convene as a political party, they should be able to brainstorm, debate, compromise, and cooperate to develop policy proposals ready for vetting and representing to the assembly for elected politicians’ parliamentary votes-the politics of getting cogent policy proposals done (at least passed into law). The parliament (assembly, commons, council, congress, &c) does the same thing but at another level: elected politicians of different parties are more formally bound to a procedure that mirrors the policy-making process by parties: debate (‘parliament’ literally means ‘the place to publicly debate policy proposals’), compromise (‘horse-trading,’ ‘arm-twisting,’ ‘giving and returning favours,’ ‘give and little, take a little’, &c), cooperation (speaking to the parliament and its committees, and voting on the proposal) and acknowledgment that the process was done ethically, completely, properly, and for the same reason with which each politician, regardless partisanship, concurs: the good of the people and the nation.
It is equally natural that, although the vast majority of policy is unanimously supported, some issues are disliked by one party but favoured by another-sometimes even diametrically opposed. Democracy is deployed to resolve an impasse: the voters decide which party will be in a parliamentary position to get its policy proposals done by relative weight in numbers of elected, party-affiliated politicians. Nevertheless, politics, or the political process, is always at work: despite party whips, a politician might not support every policy of cher own party; a party might change its draft legislation because of ideas from another party that make it better for the public; the electorate might disapprove of a law that got through the political and partisan processes but didn’t work so well ‘on the ground’ so that parties must consider how to better sell it to the electorate, amend, or rescind it-which is also a kind of politics.
Finally, even when contentious policy was enacted by the normal, partisan, political, psephological and parliamentary processes and one party, one which didn’t win the majority (or win government-multi-party elections to the Westminster parliamentary system allows for minority governments when no single party of three or more wins a majority-Congress happens to have only two parties and a few Independents) strongly disapproves, it may speak against it in the legislature and in the ‘court of public opinion’ in order to persuade voters for the other party to switch sides in the next election or pressure their own party to amend or rescind the contentious policy (but not switch parties) or, at last resort, appeal to the courts to overturn the contentious law.
This is the important point: the rule of law exists because the political process is done properly to a universal standard -not because there is partisan contention. Rather, the rule of law can deal with partisan contention because politics is done properly-that is, completely for the public good.
Politics underpins the rule of law and therefore the government of the nation; politics gets needed policy done despite partisan contention. Properly done, it is the art upon which all good things depend and the source from which all good things are achieved in the public realm. It should never be used as a pejorative. Mr Sterling appears to value the rule of law, political and psephological (election-systems, voting-systems, campaigning, &c) processes, even while maintaining a partisan position. He of all people should not make Trump’s dismissal of government and politics worse by adopting the pejorative misuse of the word politics. Politics is as good as it is necessary. I’ll assume he misspoke, probably because the anti-government temper of the times has made “politics” into an insult.
I get that he meant ‘politicization’ to mean ‘too partisan’-that is, almost totally chauvinistic, totally prejudiced against any position but its own, and viewing people of other partisanships as the epitome of evil. I hope I’ve made the case that misusing the word ‘politics’ is effectively contributing (in his case, unwittingly-because the misuse is now as common as chauvinistic partisanship) to this kind of hyper-partisanship which is, ultimately, incapable of good politics or, in Trump’s case, of any politics at all.
PS: Trump gins hyper-chauvinistic partisanship but only values the GOP for the votes it gives him, not as a source of cogent policy proposals. That’s because he has only one partisanship, himself, just like he has only one patriotism, again himself. Ironic, no?
Well-said, but at least from my perspective the Republican Party was dead in 2016 and the Democratic Party wasn't much better. It would be difficult to claim that a listless Party without a real platform could be valued in any other way than what you described. Trump ran as a populist, doing a lot of what Sterling described--giving people who felt oppressed a voice, and pushing back against what had increasingly become a belligerent and oppressive status quo against, especially, Christian conservatives, giving way to lawless and boundary-less radical "leftism" (what used to be called liberalism or "progressive liberalism" until the movement effectively died with Hillary's campaign). I voted for Hillary, but only because the FBI had announced their investigation into Trump. I would have likely voted for Joe Biden had he run, being wholly ignorant of the entire Ukraine operation, if only because at the time he would have "cmon man'ed" the radicals into submission and issued ice cream trucks for everyone.
Sterling here seems to fail to recognize that Trump is not part of the "political swamp" he is directly criticizing, and is repeating some of the propaganda that has been floating around in both Democrat and Republican circles. He doesn't understand the "tactics" because he doesn't see what it was that the January 6th riots interrupted: the official contesting of the votes of Pennsylvania and Arizona, and possibly that of Georgia. He seemingly also does not see the full connection between the lack of standing in the other State trials and the need for "certified" data from places like Georgia where there had been numerous claims of voter fraud and a variety of examples of machine malfunction and questionable conduct. It is a matter of legal interpretation whether election observers leaving under the impression of a stoppage represents a Constitutional violation of the rights of both Parties.
I wonder if he watched Schiff's speech on January 6th.
Mr Sterling, thank you so much for standing your ground and not budging to coercion. God bless you and stay healthy, starting by ditching the sugary drinks.
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Very obvious the TRUTH makes you STRONG ....Mr. Sterling's voice is STRONG
I was so worried for your life and everyone working for us, the people. Glad everyone was OK. Thank you.
This was a lovely interview. Athough there were many dark aspects of the interview, like the death threats, I had fun watching it. So much background information that most of the public doesn't know about. I'm a lifelong Democrat (not the angry one lol), but this guy sounds like a pretty great person representing the citizens of America. "We all hated fractions when we were kids, so a fractional vote sounds terrible". I'm a fan of this guy for sure. 👍🏼
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Worth a listen in its entirety, but this excerpt from the Transcript is crucial: Front Line: “Now, as you look back, and having lived through that moment that you described, what do you make of that, that he was told repeatedly by very respectable officials that the claims weren't true?” 42:44
Gabriel Sterling “It wasn't what he wanted to hear. It wasn't what he wanted to hear. He chose to listen to the things he wanted to hear.” 42:50
Frontline: “… To your mind, does that make him more responsible? “
Gabriel Sterling: “Look, President Trump is 100% responsible for all of this.”
Yes, but the nuance of what he says towards the end, makes me feel like he overall does give trump a pass.
Mr. Sterling is an old-school Republican. He is what MAGA calls a RINO today. He is on the higher moral plane.
Kudos to this sane, competent conservative election official who kept his integrity!
Thank you for this.
A normal procedural task of running an election turns into a nightmare. Thank you Gabe Sterling for standing firm and having a spine. Democracy was hanging in the balance. And you chose democracy. I can only imagine the immense pressure you were under. Real life heroes!!
I remember Mr. Sterling standing on the right side of history during that time. I appreciated the speech he made back then, too. Excellent. None of that whole situation could've been easy to deal with. Nice to hear a rational, honorable Republican tell us what really happened.
"His own selfishness has caused this much chaos" I'm sorry but maybe you could've noticed that was one of this man's traits at any point before the election?
Well said, Mr. Sterling👍
11,779 votes, which is one LESS than he asked for...
Well. he could just pencil over the total...
This is the kind of person with logic and reason needed to run the office of presidency, with honest values and morals - is Gabriel Sterling a member of the Maga party or does he and Liz Cheney and members the Gop, try to rebuild Gop under a new banner?
There is a big conference this weekend in DC with many of these minds. They know what they need to do and are working on it .
I’m gonna have to say the Republican party needs to change their position and their agenda before I would Ever respect them again. They still want women dying or barefoot and pregnant with no healthcare unless you’re on the last breath of your life I’ve got a problem with that.
I appreciate that this man stood up to Trump, but he is extremely disingenuous when he talks about both sides engaging in voter fraud claims.
He's not wrong on that. There were plenty of such claims in the Abrams/Kemp election, and Abrams still hasn't conceded that race btw. And he was also clear on where and when the respective claims were made. I don't see any both-sidism here.
@@Karlthegreat84Nor has President Trump conceded to Biden.
@@mickeythompson24 Read again what I wrote, please. I know that very well, but that's not my point. I'm not saying he hasn't, and the fucker needs to rot in hell, and first in prison for a long time, for many reasons. I'm just saying that accusations of both-sidism aren't warranted here.
N.B.: I'm European and I'm absolutely appalled about anything coming from the Republicans since the Nixon times. I don't want any Republican to come even close to the White House or any public office, not just for the sake of the US but the entire world
@@Karlthegreat84I really can't blame her. Kemp did some manipulation of the voter rolls when he was secretary of state. However, her lack of concession didn't threaten our democracy as Trump's has done.
Brian Kemp basically influenced the outcome of the first Governors election since he was SOS, and there was the whole Kennessaw State Server scandal…
Abrams had every right to not believe Kemp would play fair again. There is no both side ism, i agree, because it’s largely (note this word) ONE side.
Thank you. Shared belatedly with my Public to Facebook.
When you think you’re with the good guys, but they then make you the bad guy.
This is what every normal decent republican faces if trump gets in. You will be randomly shoved under your nearest bus. Then all that you hold dear will just be a thumpity thumpity noise to those riding on beds of republican contributions inside the bus.
"We're defending the institution" @ 40:00 is what makes this man a hero. THANK YOU, SIR!!!
Trump told Ohio in the middle of the worst blizzard and below zero temperatures. It doesn’t matter if you’re sick or if you die. It was more important to vote for him
He's always been more worried about his passing joy than our lives. 3,000 Americans a day were perishing and he said "quit testing them"and "that's all the media talks about" .. his poor poll numbers!
After 9/11 he bragged about how "I guess, I got the tallest building in New York, now?" He once said, quite recently I believe, that he didn't want to be seen on stage with an amputee or disabled vet?
It was Iowa, but your point is well made.
Trump used to tell people visiting New York years ago - “Welcome to New York - home of wonderful buildings like the Chrysler Building - the Empire State Building and the two(2) boxes in lower Manhattan that those buildings came in
@@roberthussey595 dayum. I'll give him SOME credit for his anti globalism stance. But I take it back for acting like he ISN'T a Globalist
Great interview. Thank you Gabe Sterling. You’re a decent man. I respect your role in this terrible moment in history.
His strategy was to rally his millions of supporters to fight for him and themselves for the outcome that they want and to hell with the law or the truth.
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Truly the ends justifying the means
Machiavellian. 🪓🔪🧨💣⛏️🔨
He is so honest. Very honorable man.
Another example of when doing the bare minimum of *following the law* makes a Republican a "hero of Democracy"...
We do seem to have a slim pickings for upstanding constitutional oath abide GOP at this moment so when you do find one you must tell them they did the right thing you do not have to agree with their agenda, but we need to bring our country back together again
Excellent point! One that is not pointed out enough. If just following the law makes you a hero then.....
A real man. (slow, methodical) 👏👏👏👏
Um... Gabe Sterling has repeatedly said that he'll vote for Trump again. He learned nothing. Don't glorify him.