I felt the guy getting shot in face was showing the other side of cruelty. We read the white coats as being intentionally cruel, but Skitter didn't mean to do what he did; sometimes the world is cruel for seemingly no reason, and sometimes we are guilty of doing cruel things even though it was never our intention to do so.
Daniel J. Nickolas In my opinion, I believe the scene was to show a sign of hope for this dark film. A way to coax the audience into thinking the dogs would be alright, but when the accident happens it completely ruins everything and therefore, you have no hope for the dogs and believe they will be in a worse situation or condition or die sooner or later.
Daniel J. Nickolas this reason his was added was so the towns people would come after them leading to the “plague” roomers then the government comes in that’s why
saddest thing: in the book, Snitter was given to his owner's sister to be looked after while his owner was recovering in hospital. The sister HATED Snitter and gave him away to the lab, intending to lie to her brother about it.
@@queenofyasrabien it was published in 1977 so maybe today it would be. labs back then just bought whatever they could get. she might have had the papers of ownership, she might have lied and said she was the owner, she might have even said he was a stray.
excuse me are you thrwoing shade at Richard Adams jk, the books are absolutely amazing and I recommend them, they're godlike compared to the movies. The amazing amount of detail, the way it puts you into the dogs' heads, it's just something that can't be described in visuals. Same for watership down, but Plague Dogs shows significant improvement. I just started another book of his, "Traveller" about Robert E. Lee's horse, and it's not as good, but his works are pretty great and they show a common theme: "You created these animals' fear and respect to you, why must you be cruel to them?" Sorry for rambling, lol.
Film Writer: "There's lots of blood, gore, drowning dogs, creepy animal cruelty, death, death and more death. " Film Producer : " Sounds like a solid PG."
@@krashface4870 It seems rating systems always end up one way or the other: "It's just a silly cartoon!" "There's only a little violence." "A sex scene or two is fine, right?" "They'll corrupt our minds!" "Oh no! There's a scary laser gun. This'll influence us to killing!" "You can't show kissing like that!"
Heheh, some guy at university gave me a rip of the full uncensored DVD of it, and the animation is brilliant... But it's sooo depressing! About midway through the film I was thinking that it was less of a question of "would they get their happy ending?" and more of a question of "How much longer can they last?" It does psychological horror like nothing else I've ever seen in my life! It's so good at what it does, but my only question is why do they have to do it?
@The RPGAdventurer you can somehow find it on a app called tubi, it's free and you honestly don't have to sign up. Just search up, "The plaque dogs" in tubi and you're able to watch it. I'm kinda sad now ;w;
Me:HOW DID A FOOKING DOG DO IT?!?!IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FURRY TO ATLEAST DO IT!!!!*LOOKS BEHIND ME* furry: *turns around to back and moves head mask behind* oi, imma fooking furri come at meh BRUH...
The guy who was shot in the face was in the book, he sponsored a hunt for the dogs and came across Snitter. Snitter noticed he reeked of death and was mesmerized into coming to the guy when the gun scene happened. After that, Snitter believes that he can kill humans with his mind.
I appreciate how, with the ending, you have the choice to be hopeful and optimistic like Snitter, or realistic and down-to-earth like Ralph. We also see in the end how Snitter became more realistic and doubtful like Ralph and Ralph became hopeful. This is a nice contrast from how those characters were the entirety of the movie up until that point.
@Add Messer YES! EXACTLY! It's a TOTAL juxtaposition of how the characters were, for the ENTIRETY of the movie, up until that point! Also: notice how Snitter & Rowf VISUALLY switch sides in the water at that point -- which I think FURTHER drives the idea of the juxtaposition of their personalities/psychologies. ;-) I HONESTLY think that the ending of "The Plague Dogs" is ONE OF THE BEST of ANY movie EVER made!
Yes. Their both develop. Even the fox Todd develops. He always left the gang when things got rough. But at the end of the day he gave his life for them. When the dogs hear the Todd get shot rowf quickly says “They’d never catch him” as they both heard a gunshot and Todd yelp…they know he’s dead. It shows a little development. And also teas us up for the ending knowing already that Rowf is willing to lie to smitters to give him peace. God that music at the end even has a line “you know the answer in your heart” incredible. Says I have your attention I’d like to point out the poorly behaved yorkie at the gas station. Peeing and humping and yapping. Something about that broke my heart even more. The humans can’t see Rowf and Smitters are better than that! But we know it, and the humans plot to kill Rowf and Smitters for giving them humans trouble as this yorkie makes a muck. I think it cheekily highlights Richard Adams ultimate message which is about animal rights. How insane/illogical/unfair are we to give such a life to one animal then show such hatred to others. In a way you almost pitty the yorkie because you don’t hear it “speak” you see it’s bow. You almost get the gist it wouldn’t fit in with the other animals. Which is also sad. Fucking love this movie. If you haven’t already and you are reading this: watch watership down
The Director said in the Shout Factory release said the dogs DO NOT live. The ambiguity comes from Richard Adams having to write a happy ending after submitting the book with the sad ending.
The book ended with Snitter's owner finding them out in a row-boat and the lab getting shut down after people protested against it. At least, that's what the later editions had, the original book ended this way as well. Adams felt, after a few years, however felt that if any animal deserved a happy ending, it was man's best friend. I like that he did this and although I was traumatized by the film version of Watership Down, I thought he was an amazing author and a great activist and was very sad when he passed.
@@mardukgilgamesh1500 Not according to the epilogue. Richard Adams stated "If anyone deserves a saccharine happy ending, it's a dog." He then finds them both and takes them home. The actual ending to Watership Down is happier, too. Woundwort is adopted by the farmer's little girl and the dog is treated by a vet. Personally, I like to believe all those bunnies are descendants of 'the beast of Caer Bannog' with all those nasty pointy teeth!
Marduk Gilgamesh no, I'm pretty sure the book said that Snitter's owner gave him to the sister while the owner recovered in the hospital (I could be wrong), the sister hated the absolute shit out of Snitter so she gave him to the lab.
@@PoeticProse7 The actual ending? The version I read never explained Woundwort's actual fate besides speculation, honestly I prefer it that way since Woundwort was an absolute monster and actually deserved death by dog.
In the novel the shotgun accident is even more tragic: The man is a jew who lost his family in the holocaust and when he sees Snitters wound he starts to weep.
@@rhyswhittington8759 that is true those ones have a hammer selection lever that would have been visible, I also completely forgot after making my comment that double barrelled rifle/shotgun combinations exist though highly unlikely that's what this is.)
My head canon is that they reached the island and lived out the rest of their lives in the warm home of one of the people that lived on it. Have a great day!
In the books, Snitter’s owner lives! And he finds the two dogs while he’s rowing by. (He lives and is in the hospital, the owner’s sister gives the dog away)
The movie (and originally, the book): has an open ending where You get to decide the dogs' fate. Me: the dogs got their happy ending, the dogs got thier happy ending, the dogs got their happy ending...
The dogs swimming further to the ocean, as the cloud thicken the rain start to fall, storm came quickly, the wave start to become violent, snitter start drowning and ralph desperately try to keep snitter float, big wave struck them and then ralph lost snitter, ralph start panicking and lose direction, and because he to exhausted to swim ralph soon gave up his life as he slowly sink into the ocean. This is how i imagined it would be ended
Yeah that's nice but giving a decent answer is a lot better, also based on the dark story and the opening not to mention Snitter's hallucinations and Ralph nearly drowning at the beginning. It's a bit more obvious that they died, since there was probably no island and Ralph lied to keep Snitter's hopes up to make him swim a lot more before they both eventually drowned. Look, I like happy endings but this is real, they don't make it, besides islands are not really close beaches.
@@soggycactus4240 not everything is meant to be happy, plus it was foggy as hell and they were shooting at them. All fishermen would've skedaddled from there
i was like..."im okay" throughout the whole film, but the last minutes when they start swimming and say that the island is ahead and cut to the credit. i sobbed rapidly.
If I’m not mistaken, at the end of the book a fisher man finds the two dogs and rescues them. Snitter is then reunited with his master, who it turns out wasn’t actually dead, but suffered a severe concussion. He gives the two dogs a loving home. It’s been a long while since I’ve read the book though. I just remember doing a research paper and reading that the author’s publisher or editor forced him to write a happy ending as the book would be too sad otherwise, but again I could be wrong.
Ahahahahahaha thats actually fucking hilarious😂. Like I can just imagine "JESUS JERRY THIS IS TO FUCKIN DEPRESSING WRITE A BETTER ENDING OR YOU'RE NIT PUBLISHING THIS"
@@illyachan5901 Actually he really was not happy about having to tack on a false happy ending to make people happy. In the book that I read as the dogs are swimming into the sea the author actually breaks the fourth wall to complain about the fact people were upset with the dogs most likely swimming until they die and then proceed to write the "happy ending" as described above. It always came off to me as very disingenuous and sarcastic almost. Sort of a Here, here's your happy ending! Enjoy!
I honestly prefer the sad ending, it feels more sincere and it's still kind of a 'happy' ending, as the dogs can finally rest in peace, it fits the depressing vibe of the story perfectly. The happy ending just feels forced, like he was trying to make the shittiest happy ending possible, with Snitter's owner being alive and everything.
@@doggerlander well the sad ending makes more sense because the theme of the book is that sometimes blond faith in the future is what drives us forward and so not knowing if there really is an island or not is the perfect wrap up because it leaves the audience feeling for these optimistic dogs.
Unlike the movie, the book shows us a happy ending: Snitter's master is not dead, after the accident he was recovering in a hospital. Eventually, the man finds Snitter and adopts Rowf with him. ❤
Lol that is the FAKE ending to the book. The author was pressured to change the ending by his publishers after a few years to make the ending happy. In the original book by the author they don’t get saved.
Safety's have been around forever. Also, now walking with your gun cocked was the origional safety. Can't fire when the hammer isn't pulled back on single action weapons.
@@madrazz8888 There are many videos made on it. It's quite interesting. If you enjoy psychology, you may enjoy a book called The Moral Animal. It's about 20 years old now, but it was one of the first books to explain the concept of evolutionary psychology which is a hypothesis of how morality is formed within not only human beings, but any social animal.
I remember actually crying upon seeing the ending. I've always had the habit of seeing the negative in everything before the positive. So even as a child, my mind wandered to the dogs drowning.
To be fair, I would argue that it's implied that they drowned seeing as the imagery is dark and foreboding, if they wanted us to believe they made it wouldn't the imagery be lighter with the sun shining over the island?
I read wiki about this story and the dogs make it the Russel’s master is still alive and gets his dog plus his friend adopted and the masters sister was responsible for the terrier being sold to the lab coat scientists, so hopefully you’ll sleep easier at night knowing they have a happy ending.
I’m sorry but.... I think Ralph could tell there wasn’t an island at all. He just lied so that Snitter wouldn’t die thinking they were forever lost in the ocean. You can end me now
Spaghetti Nerd 2019 I actually agree, if there was a island I feel like there could be a part 2 but this is the end, I feel like it would at least show the dogs on the island But it’s more likely (from what we have been shown from this movie) that the dogs swim till they both drown slowly This is quite a sad movie
As a person who had a dog that had frequent seizures seeing Snitter having his seizures hurts my heart. My dog passed away a year ago, and it still hurts me. She was an absolute sweetheart, but she did have frequent seizures which she took medication for. However, she got diagnosed with breast cancer the year she died, and since the surgery was too expensive, and we didn't want her to suffer through the rest of her life we had to put her down.
@@exosproudmamabear558 I guess it would make sense if they couldn't find the shotgun and just assumed he was eaten, but I don't see how it could happen
I watched this on vhs as a teen and my mom's dog was enraptured by it. He sat down and watched the whole movie very intently. Partially due to the realistic movement of the animals I guess. But Bella was one of those very smart and highly communicative dogs. My mom always talked to him like a normal person and he had a remarkable ability to understand casually spoken complete sentences. I think he followed the story with interest even if with limited understanding. He freaked out when that hunter got shot in the face. He started crying and pacing around with such concern. I had to tell him it wasn't real, only a movie, that we were safe and the tv was just a box of pictures. After a bit of reassurance that everything was okay, he calmed down and watched the rest of the movie. That was long ago. Bella was a great dog, may he rest in peace.
@@overlord-6644 It's happened to me before. I got a cat a while back, it was a brown tabby and we were under the impression it was female, few months later, my dad saw the obvious sack of manhood. We call him belly now because he is a spoiled fat cat that is allowed to roam outside my home. Heheh, funny how a simple lie can make such a big difference.
brb gonna go pet my dog and tell him I appreciate his presence edit: back. I gave him a nice long walk and took him to walmart so he can get his first brush.
My old Boxer is right next to me whenever I'm not at work, or place he just can't go. He's a good dude. My boss has already approved a week off if I'm still there when Boomer eventually passes on. I'm going to be a wreck.
This film messed me up. First of all, I never trusted Todd the moment we met him. His evil gaze and constant snarl always left me believing that he was shifty, and planned to ditch the dogs the moment things got rough. I thought that was going to be what they were going for even after Todd saved them from the hunter and finally gained ralph's trust, that they would perish due to the fox's betrayal, and Ralph would have been right all along. Then I felt so damn guilty when Todd literally sacrificed himself to buy the two canines enough time to get away. Excellent subversion of my expectations. The clever, seemingly devious fox with a loyalty so strong it would be his end. 1st crying fit. then I thought for certain I was about to see those dogs shot in the water when the men were approaching. The movie hadn't held back the entire time up until this moment so I had no reason to assume it would hold back now. I thought I was watching these dogs final moments just before a violent jerk and end. 2nd crying fit Then only to lose hope as they actually manage to get away, actually manage to evade the actual military trying to kill them. slowly struggling out into the ocean, following what seems to be an illusion of snitter's condition, with nothing but hope pushing their tired and starving bodies forward. The movie closes, the soft sounds of splashing water reminding us of the slow beginning of the movie. When we watched the first dog we meet fall beneath the waves before being pulling out by the neck to be revived. But there's no one to pull them out this time. 3rd crying fit.
if you're looking for another one of those, there's a graphic novel called Laika about the first dog sent into space by the soviet union during the space race, and it destroyed me inside.
Plague dogs is one of those important animated films imo since animal testing like this is still a problem today (despite the fact we have synthetic alternatives now) In the book snitter and rowf actually get rescued by a man in a boat and get their happy ending however after the movie debuted the book was reprinted with the movies open ending
That’s because when Richard first wrote the book, he wanted to end it bleakly, but his editor convinced him it was too much and he changed it to have a happy ending. When he got to get it made into a movie, he immediately got the freedom to request the way he originally wanted it to end.
@@badgerdax1763 The bleak ending IMO is way better than the changed ending in the novel. Argh. I wish I could find a copy of the book with the original ending.
@Ezekiel Arincorayan Pokémon has always been anime, as it comes from Japan where the term anime comes from which is short for animation. Avatar is a western show that takes inspiration from Japanese shows.
@@HeCometh232 Yes, economic crisis, likely nuclear annihilation, random acts of terrorism, Britain was a dark place and authors went into the abyss head first.
Why after some horrible tragedy? If it was it could just be him with his animal instincts more kicked in since he's been out there so long. It's not like the fox in the film is crazy violent or anything.
I personally think that the face shoot scene is reasonably bloody. It shows how hopeless they are as the only person willing to help is brutally killed by accident.
I liked the book. It kinda pissed me off that they made the redemption magic instead of the wit cunning, and struggle of Mrs. Frisby. She wasn't even and enhanced mouse, just a field mouse who made things work. But they took that away from her by making her have mysterious magical powers that saved her family. No, she was smart, courageous and resourceful, even more so than the elitist altered rats who thought they were to good to be taken down a notch because they were "intelligent". It's an alright movie though, despite the diminishing of the main character from great and notable to just another no sense magic dropping fairy tale "hero".
The bit with the gun was in the original book so you can't really blame the film for that. However, the book does have a happy ending. In the book the dogs get picked up on Sir Peter Scott's yacht! And not only that, Robert Lockley is on board (whose book "The Private Life of Rabbits" inspired Watership Down). The dogs also get reunited with Snitter's owner who adopts Ralph. I'm not sure if I prefer the darker film ending or the happy ending of the book. I suspect the happy ending would have resulted in a better box office return - and this film absolutely bombed at the box office.
@James Bond its kinda harder to except the happy ending with that info. Even tho I'm the type to prefer happy endings (I'm very pessimistic and just wanna see charaters be happy in the end) I'm happy the movie got to show the original ending. Its still depressing as anything tho.
One lesson that stuck out to me in this review: never point your firearm at anyone or anything you do not want to destroy, including yourself. Jeez, that was brutal to watch.
I recently watched this movie, (the 1hr 20 min version though :/ ) and I looked up the place where is was set, 'Coniston' which is a real town in the lake district in England, and I looked at the shores nearest to it and where they are. The shore they probably went to and began to swim at was probably a bit south of Sellafield. The 'island' that they saw was most likely the Kokoarrah rocks, which stick out from the water at the horizon. But Rowf and Snitter may have also seen a REAL island, called the 'Isle of Man' which is about 60km from the point which they most likely started swimming. So yeah, I hope that gives you hope that they made it :)
Don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but I found it odd how as they swim out into the water, the army there only takes two shots, and they both miss, and then fog rolls in. I found it suspicious...trained soldiers taking two missed shots then letting the dogs go into the fog without chase. To me...I feel like that was not a normal fog. To me, I feel like those two shots didn't actually miss...
Shogun Bowgun In the book, one of the soldiers opens fire on a local farmer's sheep dog. Because of this, the army Major tells the me that their section commanders is the only one allowed to shoot. For other reasons that I won't spoil in case you are interested in the book, everyone is told to cease fire and not go after the dogs until they wash up on shore.
Or (and this is in a way even darker) the army ceased shooting because... there was no island. The only land in sight was the one they just escaped. Why shoot a dog that is going to drown anyway?
I've watched many "dark" movies. Gory, tragic and generally horrible ones. However, I can't think of a single movie that emotionally haunted me as much as The Plague Dogs (as well as the book). The whole story is just setback after setback, after more setbacks... The whole element of the sufferers in the story, being dogs, accentuates this tragic theme, by how innocently and naively they view the world. Also, the ending is absolutely jaw-droppingly uncomfortable to sit through - however, it's actually in a positive way. Tragic stories, like this, effectively remind of us how bad a place, the world really can be, which only makes it even more important for us to practice goodness, kindness and love; that's the point of such stories, in my opinion: to inspire us to do good. Btw, your voice is quite relaxing :)
@@_MythicalWolf my local news is a bunch of car crashes and politics and some deaths and very little positive things (i guess you can call the "news" the "noose" oh god why did i make that joke xd)
that's a myth i think most movies have convinced us of. ie that good usually triumphs over evil since in hollywood and movies good wins out 99.99999% of the time. the reality is in the real world there is so much more incentive for evil and less for good that evil wins out 95% of the time if we cared to look. which most people don't cos they're caught in the rat race of working/ going to school/ watching inane media or social media. there's a ton of misery under our noses. i'm not a pessimist just a realist. as you said tho we should still strive to do 'good'..however we define it. films like this are important by bringing to light things the evil doers want to keep hidden. silence and lack of action always aids the oppressor and not the oppressed, as they say.
I really think the overarching theme was about death vs suffering a fate worse than death. It really brought things full circle with the “I don’t feel no pain no more” song. The characters discuss death vs suffering a lot through the film, too much to ignore it as a major theme. It’s about death as relief when suffering literally cannot be escaped.
@ Excellsion - LOL. Yeah, wasn't as if the country was facing a potential outbreak of BUBONIC PLAGUE. Why get the army involved? I mean it was only BUBONIC PLAGUE, nothing remotely serious. Who cares if literally 50% of the human population dies within a matter of months?
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 Wouldn't the laboratory have records of which animals were tested with the plague virus and wouldn't they have told the army the escaped dogs didn't carry it?
Muggy If I remember right, since the dogs had caused a ruckus in the other animal enclosures as they were escaping, they suspected that the dogs were in contact with rats being tested with the plague. So there really was no way of knowing if they WERE in contact with the plague or not, leading to an outbreak of fear from the humans
as much as I love these dogs and want them to be okay, I can't help but to think Ralph was lying to Snitter, giving him a little ounce of hope before death consumed them.
Without doubt. The movie even tee’s you up for this. In the scene prior the fox /Todd yelps as he is shot to death. Skitter and Rowf hear this. Rowf quickly tells skitter “they’d never catch him he’s too fast”
@@DeCostaPictures8526definitely. The ending song talks about how “the pain is over” and “you know the answer in your heart” the logistics ALONE make the odds of them surviving low
In the book, the Tod says this(paraphrasing): "Snitter, ah can't keep roonin ferever. A Tod only meks a misteke once. Tell Rowf he's a canny yow killer" Then he runs off into the woods and gets killed by the hunter, Snitter blaming himself for the Tod's death, and always trying to remember what Tod told him to tell Rowf, his memory and mental health getting worse as the book goes on.
Didn’t that come from some philosopher who was like “yo! I’ll be a dog!” And was naked and pooped with dogs and stuff. And he was the father of cynicism? What was his name??? Ahhhhh
Bruh the film leaves out one of the saddest parts of the book, the reason that man was so kind to snitter was because the man lived through the holocaust and seeing snitter with the scar on his skull and afraid made him feel empathy with him as the two went through similar experiences, it makes it all the more sadder when snitter accidentally kills him leaving to the lose of another master
@ hey thanks for responding! Plague dogs have been one of my favorite books for a long time so i’ll add something that’s always stood out to me, when the man (named Mr. Ephraim) sees snitter he calls to him saying “Come boy, come here! You poor devil. They’ve gotten you too.” it’s a line that always stuck out to me too the greater themes of the book at large. (sorry for rambling, seeing this reply reminded me of the book and it’s one of my favs :)
I truly hate the idea that animation is supposed to fit in a “kid-friendly” box. It’s just another art form that has greater flexibility than live action in some cases. Here with Plague Dogs, this realistic animation was the best option. What is with this idea that animation shouldn’t be dark? Why is it so shocking? I mean I know the obvious reason of Disney popularizing animation for families, and so Western culture simply views animation through that lens, but why shouldn’t we push for more adult animation which covers complex themes? They were even going to do this in Bambi, where two leaves have a dialogue about impending death. Yet what we get is watered down entertainment catered to our need to constantly feel like everything is okay.
I know it's a serious film, but the escalation of eventually calling in the military over two dogs and a fox is kind of funny in its extremeness to me.
Well, the people were speculating that the dogs were carrying the plague… You do know that the bubonic plague killed around 50 million people in the 1300s, right? So, I think it’s understandable that the government would take it quite seriously.
I mean, the dogs being targeted for murder by shotgun seems the most far out. Calling in the military to catch some dogs they suspect are infected with the plague seems more believable to me, since it would be disastrous if it spread...
I know this is a late response, but it was more so a response of the possibility of the dogs carrying the bubonic plague (which would make calling the military a reasonable reaction), also it was likely the national guard and not the army (if the film takes place in the US).
I watched half of this and took a shower in between. One of my shampoo bottle says: "No animal testing" with a picture of a jumping, smiling bunny and i just felt so bad that most of the products i use daily ARE animal tested. Im sad now. Let me sob in peace.
Yeah that's because cosmetic and health products can use the ingredients that were ALREADY tested on animals and repackage it with the claim that it's now cruelty free. Source? Me. I worked in animal research for 11 years.
@Starscream91 yes, though I try not to call it that because I don't consider the caring animal techs and researchers, or their endeavors, as evil. :) It's irritating and sounds like I'm avoiding an issue, but terminology matters when dealing with the public. You do the best you can to the best of your abilities for the welfare of the animal while trying to safely get reliable results. There's also the three R's that every animal research employee follows - Replacement, Reduction, and Refinement. Thank you for being polite and respectful, I appreciate it! 😁
This video: “Look, there’s a chimp rocking back and fourth because of all the inhuman testing it’s been through.” The video right next to it on my recommended page: “A chimp literally ate the face of of someone over a tickle me Elmo.”
speaking of which thAT CASE HAUNTS ME TO THIS DAY I remember watching a video about it about a year ago and I was terrified to walk into my hall. Imagine getting your face completely torn apart by a monkey. It’s a terrifying thought-
I’m not as positive about this, but I’m pretty sure that in the book the dogs *do* make it to the other side. Two men find the dogs and take them in as their own pets and it all ends happily. Though I could be wrong. Also, the farmer dying was actually part of the book. It was done the same way.
You are correct. The author breaks the 4th wall at the end and the dogs are rescued. As I recall, when they reach the dogs by boat, Snitter has drown, but is being held by Rowf. He's revived on the boat and they go live a good life.
@Omega2064 In the book snitter and rowf actually get rescued by a man in a boat and get their happy ending however after the movie debuted the book was reprinted with the movies open ending
There was alternative endings to the book or movie due to influence from editors. I forget which is the original ending though. I believe it was the ambiguous imagined island ending and the happy dogs are rescued ending replaced that. I'm sure there was an interview with Richard Adams explaining the original manuscript ending and the revised version.
@Alyas Fukename The general public cares more about animals than ever but it's still not close to enough. I mean climate change pretty much kills countless species, so to say that humans don't affect wildlife significantly clearly isn't looking at enough wildlife. Not just wildlife either, humans still are growing in population which means more animals both domesticated and not are affected in negative ways. We care more individually now which I see as an improvement.
@Alyas Fukename If u honestly think that regarding animals more than humans as innocent is not going to help the climate then I honestly don't know what to say. The biggest cause of climate change is methane produced by cows, which are produced in a rapid unatural rate, and it affects the rights of both cattle and wildlife that live in rainforests that get chopped down to make room for farming. You can't just say that people are acting fine to animals enough of the time, because we aren't. I should not have to explain why. Why do I have to explain to functioning human people that climate change is an issue that affects wild and domestic animals. It's clear that it's an issue for animal rights, and I literally shouldn't have to say that it is to people, it's entirely obvious. Don't know why you bother with this, I said a simple short comment and now it's turned into an argument that makes no logical sense. People killing animals and ruining ecosystems for food when they can eat other stuff is bad, and it's a real thing that is happening. Boom, that's all I can say, don't get why you're attempting to argue. Also the population needs to get better or we are all dead, and it's still growing- even if it's not as rapid.
@Alyas Fukename Imma just not even bother anymore, you started a bunch of random stuff out of nothing. I lost reading the second you said it was dumb to value animals over humans, as that is extremely stupid and makes literally no scientific sense at all, and I'm tired of arguing with people on the internet about the entire ethics of the planet. I'm just done at this point. Climate change is objectively a big issue, countless people have stated that, and I regard animals above humans not because I'm a normal functioning human, but because I'm the opposite, I regard them higher because I'm able to break free of cave-man purposes and have enough intelligence to see the bigger picture. You don't seem to get that humans don't naturally care for most wild animals, but that this isn't an excuse. We are clever enough to tell that animals are more innocent than us, including deadly predators, because of actual obvious surroundings located everywhere in nature, and so we SHOULD be clever enough to regard them higher than ourselves. My god, humans are not chimps anymore. We don't hunt for food or mates or territory alone, we overall don't live in functioning ecosystems, we know when animals suffer and we know when they don't. Seems like ur trying to either humanize nature or trying to justify humans as a fine species that don't have inherent evil within them. There are about 5 non-domestic animals that are cruel to others for 'fun'. Orcas, bottlenose dolphins, humans- these are all very different on an evolutionary scale to their relatives. Humans are not as good as other more primitive apes, bottlenose dolphins are not as good as earlier dolphin species, etc. The reason for this change in recent animal behaviour is due to the meteor hitting during the late Cretaceous. Mammals rose up in an unatural, unstable way, and evolved in ways they would not normally have evolved. Simple. This created some species that had inherent cruelty in them unfortunately, including HUMANS. So that's why animals are objectively better than humans- a real life extinction event that caused a chain of events leading to mammals rising up in unatural ways, leading to mammals like orcas and humans... that can act bad if they want to, unlike other species. So, that's why we suck as a species, it's not our fault we exist, but it is our fault to regard ourselves higher than wildlife. When it comes to climate issues... it's undeniable, right? I never read your full comment because I had to write this shit down, so I could be wrong, but, are you denying that deforestation and rapid, abusive farming affects the climate? Because if that's the case, then you may as well be a flat-earther. Edit: ok, I read the full comment, and, yes, I agree that there are more complexities than just 'animal rights and CH4' but please don't deny that cow farming is the biggest issue. Also I don't know why you bring up CO2 at all. I've used facts here, and I can't see a reason if I were you to continue arguing. I've acknowledged your valid points and given genuine reasons as to why some of your points didn't make sense. I understand where you are coming from overall, but some of the stuff you've said is too basic when given arguments against.
@Alyas Fukename Btw I'll admit I wasn't consistent before, but I am here, and after all I'm only arguing against 2 of your points here, I understand probably most of what your points are.
@@silentninjack7905 why? The way that your telling... Can't anyone make a joke in UA-cam comment section? Yeah well I misunderstood or I didn't actually realize this wasn't a joke cz I was in a hurry but you are telling like you can't make a joke... Wtf?
@@silentninjack7905 I know this ain't a joke, I didn't care but the way that you are telling like you are restricted to give jokes or negative comments, in the comment section, like wtf.
man this way worse than the cat movie I dont know which is more absurd how the dog stepped on the trigger or that the army is called to hunt down two dongs and a fox
In the water scene after they disappeared into the fog you can hear the song saying something like “i have left this cruel world” and that “I feel no more pain”
I went into this movie blindly. The cover caught my attention when I was looking for VHS tapes to check out from what was at the time my local library. Only a few minutes in and I was already _sobbing._ The ending, of course, left me blubbering in a pool of tears and snot... The only other movie ending that's come close to provoking such a strong reaction is _Midnight Cowboy._
@@richardwatson298 There have been a few times where I've brought up the "Jurassic Bark" episode, and just talking about it gets the ol' waterworks flowing. Haven't watched "A Dog's Tale."
@styxrakash4639 It used to air fairly regularly when I was a kid, and our whole family watched it several times. I was about 9 when I first saw it and about 14 when I last saw it. The brutality and amount of death certainly stuck with me, and I consistently cried over certain scenes--one in particular. I'm sure you can guess which. I definitely cried more over _The Plague Dogs,_ though this might be due to my being older when I first saw it and, therefore, having better developed empathy. However, I'm not going to watch _WD_ again to test my supposition.
What if Snitter's memories of his owner were fake, just ilusion due to his brain experiment? And he was just as unlucky as tu other one? Maybe the experiment was kinda like lobotomy - they wanted to check, if they can change pesymisic/depressed/agressive dog to optimistic and friendly one? Brain surgeries as we know can change the attitude, cause seizures maybe even mix up memories
Woogsa Love the theory, but if you wanted an answer, in the book Snitter did have a owner. His sister hated Snitter and after the accident, sold Snitter to the Research Station, who was in need of a adult domesticated dog.
Since the ending is open to interpretation, here's what I think happened: Ralph and Snitter kept swimming until the eventually made it to the island, which turns out was real, but they pass out on the shore because they swam for so long. Just when they're on the brink of death from exhaustion, something comes out of the nearby bushes and drags them further onto the island. Hours later, Ralph and Snitter wake up in a cave surrounded by other dogs who are being led by a human man. They learn that the man had been stranded on the island for his whole life after falling off a ship and made the island his home, and as it turned out, Ralph and Snitter weren't the only dogs to have escaped the research facility. All the other dogs had escaped from the cruel experiments as well, at different points in time, and they all swam away to escape from hunters until they came upon the island where the man took care of them. Ralph and Snitter realize that not only had the dogs saved them from dying from exhaustion but brought them to their leader, who agrees to let them live with him forever on the island. And so the story ends with Ralph and Snitter finding a new home and a new family, and living out the remainder of their lives in peace, free from the cruelty of the research facility. That's my idea for what happened to Ralph and Snitter at the end, I thought it'd be a more lighthearted way to end their story after all the pain they've been through.
That’s kind of like the book ending. Ralph and Snitter are pulled onto a boat and Snitter’s owner is on the boat. I think he was just injured and didn’t die but the dogs wouldn’t know that so they think they’ve both died and gone into the afterlife. Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this, it’s been a while since I’ve read it. But goddamn what you said was so wholesome and nice ; - ;
@@HiBuddyyyyyy snitters owner is on the beach with a journalist who tracked him down. The men in the boat rescue rowf and manage to bring snitter back to consciousness
Man, this film just downright broke my heart. Those poor dogs were just running on a streak of bad luck and miscommunications. I just felt horrible for Rowf's trauma of water and Snitter's hallucinations & guilt ridden thoughts of him thinking that he killed his master or whoever he comes across just dies. And RIP to The Tod for his sacrifice to save the dogs from certain death. Tod is that type of character you would think that would backstab or abandon the duo but he ends up growing a liking to them. He didn't have to get involved in their predicament, but he can't help that he wanted to. "Just stay with me... I'll get you there...." -Rowf 😢
the saddest part of the open ending is: watch where the bullets hit the water. there's not enough water in the way to slow them down that much. after the two shots, the sound of humans die down and the fog rolls in for the two dogs. 7:55
I haven’t read the book before but that sure doesn’t sound very open ended to me... it just sounds like a pretty clear metaphor for a tragic death. Thanks for posting that! (Edit: that was a genuine thanks, not sarcastic btw. I was curious how the ending was intended and now I have my answer!)
@@AlbinoAxolotl the book is actually different! the author originally wrote it very similar to the movie ending, but it also had another ending that was less depressing but a deus-ex machina, where the dogs are picked up by a passing boat, snitter is reunited with his owner (who did not die, he was just in hospital. it was his sister who sold snitter to the lab because she didn't want to look after him), and rowf is eventually adopted after learning not all humans are evil.
@@DarciousMaluki Sadly, animals raised in those conditions don't adapt well. Not exactly happily ever after. Maybe he's an "outside" dog, with a doghouse and food, atleast? Safe and warm, yeah.
@@BlackavarWD its hard to say. when the sailor pulls rowf up, if i recall correctly, rowf licks his hand and wags his tail. and snitter, on disembarking the boat, asks rowf if he wants to stay with the sailor and rowf is indecisive.
Me before watching it: Oh this is just gonna be another one of my recommendation lists.. Me after watching: *starts running to my dog and hugs her tightly* TELL ME THEY WENT TO THE ISLAND
Don't worry, there is the isle of man by where the beach they swam off of as well as some rock to rest on that stick out of the water, and the isle of man is only 37 miles from the beach they swam off of so in theory they could have made it 😄
@@bulldogblast1945 theres also another “island” closer than that, “kokoarrah” island ... much closer in fact... only about a mile from the shore, but... it only occasionally pops above the water due to tides
I believe your view of the ending really makes sense... how that little island is actually like... referring to the afterlife. PLUS that song in the intro and outro really adds up to that theory. As the song is about afterlife.
ikr? I wasn't even allowed to touch a gun before it was drilled into me to always keep it pointed at the ground, even if it's unloaded. If it's loaded, keep the safety on, always.
You should review Felidae, a 1980's movie about a cat name Francis who is trying to solve the local murders of cats around his new neighborhood. Its really spooky and is centered around religion and eugenics. Definitely up your ally if you watch stuff like this. I also recommend Chrin No Suzu or Ringing Bell 1978. Its about a baby ram named Chirin whose mother is murdered by a wolf. Chirin follows him and demands to be trained to become strong and fierce so he wont be a weakling anymore. The two have a interesting relationship and it has a unhappy ending that essentially means that revenge never heals your sadness or rage.
I agree, I saw the island as the "afterlife" and when we see them swimming, it made me think they ended up drowning, and really did.. reach the island. A strange bitter sweet ending to me.
I'm really liking your reviews. Can I make a suggestion? How about Felidae, it's not AS dark, but it's still in the realm of "Surprisingly dark animation".
Wow. Haven't seen this movie in years. It always brought a tear in my eye. This video was great steve, you got me to remember one of my favorite animated of all times. You gave a perfect review of this. Thank you steve!
This is one of the only truly tearjerking and moving animated films I ever saw when I was younger. I really want to believe they lived and made it to the island... free from strife and the turmoil they both suffered.
I like to think they both drowned, but then awoke to a wonderful sight. That of Todd waiting for them on a rocky outcrop in a lush field. And the wariness of the years on their bodies seem to melt away. They go and great Todd who merely laughs and and asks what took them so long. Todd looks fit and heathy like he has never gone hungry in his life. They then go and chase each other through the meadow as it zooms out showing them heading off. Together. Now the three friends will be together forever to run and hunt and play. Never to see another White Coat or be harmed again. So basically the three of them have returned as spirits back to where they once lived up in the hills. Since how they died I can't see them moving on to an Afterlife. But they are happy to just be and stay with each other forever. And I like to think at night people who live around there see three figures running fast like nothing else over the ground. And some nights the odd distant howl or two wakes folk up with a chill. It still keeps it as sad since they are dead as well as stuck here. But they found comfort of having each other. Also you can think about Todd as already being dead. Long dead before the dogs find him. When Todd was shot his body vanished a few moments later, showing he wasn't truly there to begin with. And that his wish was to help the dogs. A spirit of a fox beaten and tortured by farmers decades beforehand leaning aid to two fellow broken animals. I enjoy supernatural things and that last bit was an interesting thought to me.
Another fox named Todd? That was the fox's name in The Fox and the Hound which also had a VERY depressing ending but since Disney made the movie it was not going to end that way.
I hadn't seen it sooner because it was banned, I'm glad to see it works now! Plague dogs is a very dark movie, but I remember reading that is has some differences with the book, such as (if i recall correctly) Snitter's owner being still alive and looking for his dog, who was captured and brought to the lab. I think it would have been nice to see him in the movie too, but I guess they had to cut him off. This movie made me courious about animal experiments though (like the monkey in the tank, which I learned is called the pit of despair) and I did some research on it. I gained some knowledge, so thank you movie! (even though you scarred me mentally!). I'm glad you made this review, I look forward to your next one!
Yeah sorry about the video ban confusing you, wasn't expecting the copyright bots to hit this so hard. I think for future vids I'll upload them privately first and THEN make them public once we get the green light. The book did indeed have a happy ending, but the film's darker ending was what the author originally wanted, only changing it last minute in the book due to pressure from his Editor. I'm torn on which I'd rather, I think the darker ending is the more logical and superior ending as it drives the message home of the cruelty these animals went through, but I think the happier ending would have given the film a stronger narrative as we finally see the dogs get true payoff for all the suffering they endured. And yeah every experiment you see in this film is based on real life experiments that took place (and maybe still take place)
I looked up the pit of despair. What the actual fuck is wrong with some people? I'm not sure if Harlow's honesty in naming "the pit of despair" and "the rape rack" is a good thing or not - does it show that he realised how fucked up it was, or does it show that he had a sick sense of humour?
There are still really cruel testings on rats still going on, where everytime they sleep they are pushed from a platform into water or if they can find a way in a water maze.
@@nathangamble125 This world is cruel yet beautiful place. It is home to those who think the fucked up ends justify the fucked up means, those who let emotions take over and cloud their judgement, and the increasingly rare few that accept the world for what it truly is and try to make the best of it.
Welp. I might watch Watership Down; but I don’t think I’ll ever watch this. I never had a dog of my own, but animal cruelty pisses me off a lot. Also the open ending would make me cry.
Plague dogs is a very rough and eerie movie, truly disturbing. It doesnt feel forced though. Everything that happens feels unfortunately natural. Not for the faint of heart.
@@crimsonilla6550 *Remake. A reboot disregards it's predecessor in leu of telling the story with a new/different perspective while a remake will tell the story essentially shot for shot with little to no details adding to the story with updated graphics. Examples: Fantastic 4 franchise-reboot, Robocop 1987 vs Robocop 2014-remake
I felt the guy getting shot in face was showing the other side of cruelty. We read the white coats as being intentionally cruel, but Skitter didn't mean to do what he did; sometimes the world is cruel for seemingly no reason, and sometimes we are guilty of doing cruel things even though it was never our intention to do so.
so true
@Zesty Catz Not a terrible point; one would expect that guy to know the basics of gun safety.
Daniel J. Nickolas In my opinion, I believe the scene was to show a sign of hope for this dark film. A way to coax the audience into thinking the dogs would be alright, but when the accident happens it completely ruins everything and therefore, you have no hope for the dogs and believe they will be in a worse situation or condition or die sooner or later.
Daniel J. Nickolas this reason his was added was so the towns people would come after them leading to the “plague” roomers then the government comes in that’s why
*snitter
saddest thing:
in the book, Snitter was given to his owner's sister to be looked after while his owner was recovering in hospital.
The sister HATED Snitter and gave him away to the lab, intending to lie to her brother about it.
The owner's sister is a bitch.
Wouldn't that be in some way... illegal? I mean you can't just give someone else's pet or possession away
@@queenofyasrabien it was published in 1977 so maybe today it would be. labs back then just bought whatever they could get. she might have had the papers of ownership, she might have lied and said she was the owner, she might have even said he was a stray.
@@Type90-IIM is-is that a pun?
@@mooedy if it was it was HILARIOUS
>Finally finds a friendly human
The plot: “Bravo six, going dark.”
Facts
Remove the we’re
Twin twelv' gauge
REMOVE THE WE'RE
@@PomptonII since you asked so nicely
This movie did more against animal cruelty then PETA ever could.
You underestimate their commitment to staying relevant.
if I wasn't dead inside, I would be laughing my ass off
PETA literally kill animals
Um pretty sure Peta has done more then what happened in the movie, and in different ways
for real i was thinking they are doing what these scientists do in this movie
guy gets shot in the face, MUST HAVE BEEN THE DOGS
@Bacon On My Tastebuds ik but how did other people know that? XD
Abigail Rose Cottman it’s a known fact that dogs can shoot......duh.
DUCK SEASON
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@@1happycheerio171 RABBIT SEASON
“The original guy who made watership down”
of...of course it is
excuse me are you thrwoing shade at Richard Adams
jk, the books are absolutely amazing and I recommend them, they're godlike compared to the movies. The amazing amount of detail, the way it puts you into the dogs' heads, it's just something that can't be described in visuals. Same for watership down, but Plague Dogs shows significant improvement. I just started another book of his, "Traveller" about Robert E. Lee's horse, and it's not as good, but his works are pretty great and they show a common theme: "You created these animals' fear and respect to you, why must you be cruel to them?" Sorry for rambling, lol.
@@jessop5125 I really don't think so but okay
this richard adams guy must ov been deranged
@@jessop5125 wait nevermind you were right
it bothers me how u have 666 likes
lmao
Film Writer: "There's lots of blood, gore, drowning dogs, creepy animal cruelty, death, death and more death. "
Film Producer : " Sounds like a solid PG."
More liker rated "H" h is for horrifying
FP: "is a cartoon ?"
FW: "well, yes, of corse, but-"
FP:" Perfect, my children will like this movie with cute doggies"
This was back when there were only 3 ratings. And PG was in the middle.
@@krashface4870 It seems rating systems always end up one way or the other:
"It's just a silly cartoon!" "There's only a little violence." "A sex scene or two is fine, right?"
"They'll corrupt our minds!" "Oh no! There's a scary laser gun. This'll influence us to killing!" "You can't show kissing like that!"
well, Parental Guidence actually meant something back in the day
Fun fact: a male fox is called a "todd".
We all know which movie taught us that
That makes a lot more sense
Thanks so much for telling me☺😉
@@flowermoongarden549 ????? Who?
@@flowermoongarden549 wha- hooooow?!
This was so disturbing to watch and it's not even the full movie
@The RPGAdventurer
I think they mean that the review is disturbing to watch and they haven't even watch the movie
I agree, I don't like this :(
Heheh, some guy at university gave me a rip of the full uncensored DVD of it, and the animation is brilliant... But it's sooo depressing! About midway through the film I was thinking that it was less of a question of "would they get their happy ending?" and more of a question of "How much longer can they last?" It does psychological horror like nothing else I've ever seen in my life! It's so good at what it does, but my only question is why do they have to do it?
@The RPGAdventurer you can somehow find it on a app called tubi, it's free and you honestly don't have to sign up. Just search up, "The plaque dogs" in tubi and you're able to watch it. I'm kinda sad now ;w;
I can't imagine watching the whole movie
6:54 police: who is responsible for his death?
Six year old: the dog did it!
Police: your a damn genius.
Me:HOW DID A FOOKING DOG DO IT?!?!IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FURRY TO ATLEAST DO IT!!!!*LOOKS BEHIND ME*
furry: *turns around to back and moves head mask behind* oi, imma fooking furri come at meh BRUH...
@@theredfaux4588
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ironic
@@theredfaux4588 found the Australian
@@lonewalling938 rofl
The guy who was shot in the face was in the book, he sponsored a hunt for the dogs and came across Snitter. Snitter noticed he reeked of death and was mesmerized into coming to the guy when the gun scene happened. After that, Snitter believes that he can kill humans with his mind.
worfkillinshat Jesus..
Okay, now I don't feel as bad for the guy.
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Oof
This makes me feel slightly better
I appreciate how, with the ending, you have the choice to be hopeful and optimistic like Snitter, or realistic and down-to-earth like Ralph. We also see in the end how Snitter became more realistic and doubtful like Ralph and Ralph became hopeful. This is a nice contrast from how those characters were the entirety of the movie up until that point.
@Add Messer YES! EXACTLY! It's a TOTAL juxtaposition of how the characters were, for the ENTIRETY of the movie, up until that point! Also: notice how Snitter & Rowf VISUALLY switch sides in the water at that point -- which I think FURTHER drives the idea of the juxtaposition of their personalities/psychologies. ;-) I HONESTLY think that the ending of "The Plague Dogs" is ONE OF THE BEST of ANY movie EVER made!
Or maybe you could be a little bit of both.
Rowf lol. Not Ralph
Yes. Their both develop. Even the fox Todd develops. He always left the gang when things got rough. But at the end of the day he gave his life for them.
When the dogs hear the Todd get shot rowf quickly says “They’d never catch him” as they both heard a gunshot and Todd yelp…they know he’s dead. It shows a little development. And also teas us up for the ending knowing already that Rowf is willing to lie to smitters to give him peace.
God that music at the end even has a line “you know the answer in your heart” incredible.
Says I have your attention I’d like to point out the poorly behaved yorkie at the gas station. Peeing and humping and yapping. Something about that broke my heart even more. The humans can’t see Rowf and Smitters are better than that! But we know it, and the humans plot to kill Rowf and Smitters for giving them humans trouble as this yorkie makes a muck.
I think it cheekily highlights Richard Adams ultimate message which is about animal rights. How insane/illogical/unfair are we to give such a life to one animal then show such hatred to others. In a way you almost pitty the yorkie because you don’t hear it “speak” you see it’s bow. You almost get the gist it wouldn’t fit in with the other animals. Which is also sad.
Fucking love this movie. If you haven’t already and you are reading this: watch watership down
The Director said in the Shout Factory release said the dogs DO NOT live. The ambiguity comes from Richard Adams having to write a happy ending after submitting the book with the sad ending.
These dogs got a 5 star rating faster than GTA character ever
*6 star
69 likes, noice.
6 >:c
alan westmoreland *FBI OPEN UP*
you forgot "every"
The book ended with Snitter's owner finding them out in a row-boat and the lab getting shut down after people protested against it. At least, that's what the later editions had, the original book ended this way as well. Adams felt, after a few years, however felt that if any animal deserved a happy ending, it was man's best friend. I like that he did this and although I was traumatized by the film version of Watership Down, I thought he was an amazing author and a great activist and was very sad when he passed.
Thank you. I needed this.
His owner didnt die?
@@mardukgilgamesh1500 Not according to the epilogue. Richard Adams stated "If anyone deserves a saccharine happy ending, it's a dog." He then finds them both and takes them home.
The actual ending to Watership Down is happier, too. Woundwort is adopted by the farmer's little girl and the dog is treated by a vet. Personally, I like to believe all those bunnies are descendants of 'the beast of Caer Bannog' with all those nasty pointy teeth!
Marduk Gilgamesh no, I'm pretty sure the book said that Snitter's owner gave him to the sister while the owner recovered in the hospital (I could be wrong), the sister hated the absolute shit out of Snitter so she gave him to the lab.
@@PoeticProse7 The actual ending? The version I read never explained Woundwort's actual fate besides speculation, honestly I prefer it that way since Woundwort was an absolute monster and actually deserved death by dog.
In the novel the shotgun accident is even more tragic: The man is a jew who lost his family in the holocaust and when he sees Snitters wound he starts to weep.
jesus it's like the author was in a contest of making the most saddest story ever
@@numberone2676 But the novel has a happy ending. ☝️🤓
And he got shot anyway?
@@Belicure Yes.
@@Der.Kleine.General damn. I can't tell if that's overkill or just brutal.
Farmer: (Tries to adopt dog)
Shotgun: "Imma end this man's whole career."
Kurt Cobain II: Hell On Earth
You mean his whole life
This person very obviously shot himself?
*THE DOGS DID IT*
This person fell off a cliff?
*THE DOGS DID IT*
Drawing Kat I should have known-it was the dogs that killed JFK!
People are really superstitious and will believe what they want to believe, this film shows that dark side
But I feel bad for the guy smitter should be ashamed
@@kareemasadq5587 Smitter is the one you should feel bad for. He only wanted a family, he never had the intent to kill that guy
@@curiousconflict true but wow did smitter mess up
“Someone robbed the bank!”
“I saw some dogs a few minutes before it happened.”
“Dear god...”
theres more...
(say the next line if you get the joke)
cavefc2000 no...
@@cavefc-ro7hh *got a bucket of fried chicken, wanna do it?*
@@cavefc-ro7hh NO
@@cavefc-ro7hh noo...
6:13 that appears to be a shotgun. A close range blast from a shotgun means he no longer has a face, he's just covering a mess of blood mangled flesh.
Thank you for this not at all disturbing image at 12 am in the morning.
@@rosesbloom324 It is ironically 12 AM right now.
It's obviously a shotgun (Doublebarrel shotguns have two triggers) but depending on what it's loaded with and the angle it hit the damage would vary.
@@Shotokan1001 some doublebarrel shotguns have two triggers, some have only 1 that you press twice.
@@rhyswhittington8759 that is true those ones have a hammer selection lever that would have been visible, I also completely forgot after making my comment that double barrelled rifle/shotgun combinations exist though highly unlikely that's what this is.)
My head canon is that they reached the island and lived out the rest of their lives in the warm home of one of the people that lived on it. Have a great day!
In the books, Snitter’s owner lives! And he finds the two dogs while he’s rowing by. (He lives and is in the hospital, the owner’s sister gives the dog away)
@@obamaobama1056 but the owner will get the Plague now and die fr
Yes, that’s exactly what happened. Good ending for the good boys.
@@mysteryjunkie9808 no he won't, the dogs don't actually have the plague
@@obamaobama1056 so the book has a nice ending at least.
The movie (and originally, the book): has an open ending where You get to decide the dogs' fate.
Me: the dogs got their happy ending, the dogs got thier happy ending, the dogs got their happy ending...
Honestly my headcannon is that the dogs died.
The dogs swimming further to the ocean, as the cloud thicken the rain start to fall, storm came quickly, the wave start to become violent, snitter start drowning and ralph desperately try to keep snitter float, big wave struck them and then ralph lost snitter, ralph start panicking and lose direction, and because he to exhausted to swim ralph soon gave up his life as he slowly sink into the ocean.
This is how i imagined it would be ended
Yeah that's nice but giving a decent answer is a lot better, also based on the dark story and the opening not to mention Snitter's hallucinations and Ralph nearly drowning at the beginning. It's a bit more obvious that they died, since there was probably no island and Ralph lied to keep Snitter's hopes up to make him swim a lot more before they both eventually drowned. Look, I like happy endings but this is real, they don't make it, besides islands are not really close beaches.
Fishermen saved them, there happy realistic ending.
@@soggycactus4240 not everything is meant to be happy, plus it was foggy as hell and they were shooting at them. All fishermen would've skedaddled from there
I wanna pretend that they found the island.....yes yes they found the island
danny pastel some times I want to die
And this makes me die even more
In the book a fisherman rescues them and gives them to a nice master
i was like..."im okay" throughout the whole film, but the last minutes when they start swimming and say that the island is ahead and cut to the credit. i sobbed rapidly.
The island is called heaven cause you know it’s a heaven for dogs.
If I’m not mistaken, at the end of the book a fisher man finds the two dogs and rescues them. Snitter is then reunited with his master, who it turns out wasn’t actually dead, but suffered a severe concussion. He gives the two dogs a loving home. It’s been a long while since I’ve read the book though. I just remember doing a research paper and reading that the author’s publisher or editor forced him to write a happy ending as the book would be too sad otherwise, but again I could be wrong.
Ahahahahahaha thats actually fucking hilarious😂. Like I can just imagine "JESUS JERRY THIS IS TO FUCKIN DEPRESSING WRITE A BETTER ENDING OR YOU'RE NIT PUBLISHING THIS"
I've never been happier to hear theres a happy ending to a story
@@illyachan5901 Actually he really was not happy about having to tack on a false happy ending to make people happy. In the book that I read as the dogs are swimming into the sea the author actually breaks the fourth wall to complain about the fact people were upset with the dogs most likely swimming until they die and then proceed to write the "happy ending" as described above. It always came off to me as very disingenuous and sarcastic almost. Sort of a Here, here's your happy ending! Enjoy!
I honestly prefer the sad ending, it feels more sincere and it's still kind of a 'happy' ending, as the dogs can finally rest in peace, it fits the depressing vibe of the story perfectly.
The happy ending just feels forced, like he was trying to make the shittiest happy ending possible, with Snitter's owner being alive and everything.
@@doggerlander well the sad ending makes more sense because the theme of the book is that sometimes blond faith in the future is what drives us forward and so not knowing if there really is an island or not is the perfect wrap up because it leaves the audience feeling for these optimistic dogs.
Unlike the movie, the book shows us a happy ending: Snitter's master is not dead, after the accident he was recovering in a hospital. Eventually, the man finds Snitter and adopts Rowf with him. ❤
That’s beautiful
Lol that is the FAKE ending to the book. The author was pressured to change the ending by his publishers after a few years to make the ending happy. In the original book by the author they don’t get saved.
@@styxrakash4639no, the author himself wanted to make the change
Step 1. NEVER LEAVE YOUR RIFLE BY YOUR FACE
Step 2. SAFETY LOCK YOUR GUN
Edit: Step 3 by leetlebob. DON'T LOAD THE GUN
I dunno if old timey double barrel shotguns have safety locks.
Safety's have been around forever. Also, now walking with your gun cocked was the origional safety. Can't fire when the hammer isn't pulled back on single action weapons.
in the book, he was going to.
I'm making this face at your comment. Don’t leave the fucker loaded then and they did
@@RabidlyTaboo I don't think that one was old school model but hammerless new model I could be wrong tho
Meanwhile, a bunch of rats and mice escape as well and build a great rat city with electricity in a rose bush.
MadRazz hahahahahahaha
The Secret of NIMH
Do you know that NIMH was loosely based off from the Mouse Utopia Experiment?
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@@fuzzywzhe That's very interesting. Never heard of it before.
@@madrazz8888 There are many videos made on it. It's quite interesting.
If you enjoy psychology, you may enjoy a book called The Moral Animal. It's about 20 years old now, but it was one of the first books to explain the concept of evolutionary psychology which is a hypothesis of how morality is formed within not only human beings, but any social animal.
I remember actually crying upon seeing the ending. I've always had the habit of seeing the negative in everything before the positive. So even as a child, my mind wandered to the dogs drowning.
The human mind reacts to negative things stronger than positive things.
To be fair, I would argue that it's implied that they drowned seeing as the imagery is dark and foreboding, if they wanted us to believe they made it wouldn't the imagery be lighter with the sun shining over the island?
MsLucia4179 just... let us hope they made it to the island, okay?
@@AFarmerCalledChicken if that's what helps you sleep at night
I read wiki about this story and the dogs make it the Russel’s master is still alive and gets his dog plus his friend adopted and the masters sister was responsible for the terrier being sold to the lab coat scientists, so hopefully you’ll sleep easier at night knowing they have a happy ending.
This film is disturbingly dark. literally someone give me a Flashlight
*Passes fleshlight* ...
@@theblackbaron4119 I fucking knew someone would make that joke, jesus man.
I’m sorry but....
I think Ralph could tell there wasn’t an island at all. He just lied so that Snitter wouldn’t die thinking they were forever lost in the ocean.
You can end me now
Thanks for the info captain obvious
@@notklouds-3177 boi it's an observation
Animegod Dark You gave me permission to end you soo
@@notklouds-3177 ah shit
Spaghetti Nerd 2019 I actually agree, if there was a island I feel like there could be a part 2 but this is the end, I feel like it would at least show the dogs on the island
But it’s more likely (from what we have been shown from this movie) that the dogs swim till they both drown slowly
This is quite a sad movie
The police thought... The dogs shot him? I mean, that is what happened but how would any policeman deduce such a random happenstance?
Jessica Emmas footprints?
They found Paw traces on the weapon, I dont know!
Jessica Emmas maybe they thought the dogs bit his face off, tearing his flesh.
Jessica Emmas elementary , my dear Watson.
@@magnustonitrum2579 It would still be obvious that it would be a gunshot wound
After I had watched that movie, I just sat and pet my dog for a long time..
I could only pet my cat...sigh
I found my shepherd hugged her and (I know it is dumb) sang a song to her. And felt sad the rest of the day
Mr. Snakeu good
Hope you dont get ran over by a car!
I fed it some treats...
As a person who had a dog that had frequent seizures seeing Snitter having his seizures hurts my heart. My dog passed away a year ago, and it still hurts me. She was an absolute sweetheart, but she did have frequent seizures which she took medication for. However, she got diagnosed with breast cancer the year she died, and since the surgery was too expensive, and we didn't want her to suffer through the rest of her life we had to put her down.
I had two cats like that and miss Tigger and angel
Oh, so you are one of these people. I always wondered who they were
@@kanalnr1 What's that supposed to mean?
6:54 Policeman1: I believe that those two dogs killed that man
Policeman2: Are you high again?
I mean he literally shot with a shotgun. How the heck they thought dogs killed him?
@@exosproudmamabear558 I guess it would make sense if they couldn't find the shotgun and just assumed he was eaten, but I don't see how it could happen
@@someboi7815 I mean shotgun from a close range couldn't be mixed with eaten since it is pretty devastating. It is just lazy writing if you ask me.
@@exosproudmamabear558 yeah and the skull would be severely damaged as well so now that I think about it, there is no real justification
there was better evidence in the book
I watched this on vhs as a teen and my mom's dog was enraptured by it. He sat down and watched the whole movie very intently. Partially due to the realistic movement of the animals I guess. But Bella was one of those very smart and highly communicative dogs. My mom always talked to him like a normal person and he had a remarkable ability to understand casually spoken complete sentences. I think he followed the story with interest even if with limited understanding. He freaked out when that hunter got shot in the face. He started crying and pacing around with such concern. I had to tell him it wasn't real, only a movie, that we were safe and the tv was just a box of pictures. After a bit of reassurance that everything was okay, he calmed down and watched the rest of the movie. That was long ago. Bella was a great dog, may he rest in peace.
Multi Mason rip to a real one
Aww
May he rest peacefully in heaven
You named a male dog Bella
I think your dogs smarter than you
@@overlord-6644 It's happened to me before. I got a cat a while back, it was a brown tabby and we were under the impression it was female, few months later, my dad saw the obvious sack of manhood. We call him belly now because he is a spoiled fat cat that is allowed to roam outside my home. Heheh, funny how a simple lie can make such a big difference.
"The same guy who made Watership Down"
*That explains everything*
Lmfao fr tho
Ikr
I wanted to watch water ship down cuz I was curious but put it off after watching the trailer
Aw shit....
brb gonna go pet my dog and tell him I appreciate his presence
edit: back. I gave him a nice long walk and took him to walmart so he can get his first brush.
I will do the same with my dogs.
My old Boxer is right next to me whenever I'm not at work, or place he just can't go. He's a good dude. My boss has already approved a week off if I'm still there when Boomer eventually passes on. I'm going to be a wreck.
I love my dogs a lot and all, but nobody cares that you went to Walmart.
@@DamnItMantis but I care.... It made me feel nice to know that their dog is happy and had a nice walk
Good, love him whilst you can
This film messed me up.
First of all, I never trusted Todd the moment we met him. His evil gaze and constant snarl always left me believing that he was shifty, and planned to ditch the dogs the moment things got rough. I thought that was going to be what they were going for even after Todd saved them from the hunter and finally gained ralph's trust, that they would perish due to the fox's betrayal, and Ralph would have been right all along.
Then I felt so damn guilty when Todd literally sacrificed himself to buy the two canines enough time to get away.
Excellent subversion of my expectations. The clever, seemingly devious fox with a loyalty so strong it would be his end.
1st crying fit.
then I thought for certain I was about to see those dogs shot in the water when the men were approaching. The movie hadn't held back the entire time up until this moment so I had no reason to assume it would hold back now. I thought I was watching these dogs final moments just before a violent jerk and end.
2nd crying fit
Then only to lose hope as they actually manage to get away, actually manage to evade the actual military trying to kill them. slowly struggling out into the ocean, following what seems to be an illusion of snitter's condition, with nothing but hope pushing their tired and starving bodies forward.
The movie closes, the soft sounds of splashing water reminding us of the slow beginning of the movie. When we watched the first dog we meet fall beneath the waves before being pulling out by the neck to be revived.
But there's no one to pull them out this time.
3rd crying fit.
If there's any consolation, a happy ending was made for them later 😭
There is something to save them this time.
Death
And don't forget that song at the end too...
@pug god yeah, you did though.
@@Hawthornne and the music when scitter acidentally shoots the farmer in the face is really eerie........
I'm not going to lie, the ending of Plague Dogs really left me with an empty feel.
read the book than the ending is different from the movie
Yea..
if you're looking for another one of those, there's a graphic novel called Laika about the first dog sent into space by the soviet union during the space race, and it destroyed me inside.
six piece chicken mcnobody Oh my god that one is so freaking sad.
Plague dogs is one of those important animated films imo since animal testing like this is still a problem today (despite the fact we have synthetic alternatives now)
In the book snitter and rowf actually get rescued by a man in a boat and get their happy ending however after the movie debuted the book was reprinted with the movies open ending
Well...at least at one point they got a happy ending :(
That’s because when Richard first wrote the book, he wanted to end it bleakly, but his editor convinced him it was too much and he changed it to have a happy ending. When he got to get it made into a movie, he immediately got the freedom to request the way he originally wanted it to end.
@@badgerdax1763 The bleak ending IMO is way better than the changed ending in the novel. Argh. I wish I could find a copy of the book with the original ending.
I don’t think we use dogs and monkeys as much anymore, it’s usually rats and rabbits, but I’m not an expert
@@kingtigershark7197 in china, fur is still made from dogs ua-cam.com/video/sLcgxIGTFRs/v-deo.html
According to UA-cam, The Plague Dogs is an anime.
What? Why? I mean, "anime" has nothing to do what it is about, it means it's drew and animated in specific Japanese artstyle...
@Ezekiel Arincorayan
Pokémon has always been anime, as it comes from Japan where the term anime comes from which is short for animation. Avatar is a western show that takes inspiration from Japanese shows.
Wat
@Ezekiel Arincorayan All the Pokemon tv shows are called the Pokemon anime.
@Ezekiel Arincorayan just because your friends think that, doesn't mean it's true kid...
any notice a theme here? 1980's animated movies were dark.
Especially the British ones
@@HeCometh232 Yes, economic crisis, likely nuclear annihilation, random acts of terrorism, Britain was a dark place and authors went into the abyss head first.
The likes. I'm sorry.
mike hunt Even in America, comics got super dark.
So dark they use to call them midnight haha
This movie earns the DDD
Dark
Disturbing
Depressing
Don't forget Death/Deadly, and Dystopian
This movie earns the d lmao
dungeons, dragons, and D R U G S
@@k5__beatz754 xddddddddd
Diners, drive ins and dives???
Imagine that the Tod is actually the fox from The Fox and The Hound after some horrible tragedy.
Dun Dun Dun...
Why after some horrible tragedy? If it was it could just be him with his animal instincts more kicked in since he's been out there so long. It's not like the fox in the film is crazy violent or anything.
If you read the real summary from the book version of that movie, then you will find similarities...
The Disney version is very very loosely based of the book, which like most of the original stories made into Disney movies, is really messed up.
Mad Turnip so the sequel to fox and the hound
I personally think that the face shoot scene is reasonably bloody. It shows how hopeless they are as the only person willing to help is brutally killed by accident.
Fun fact, this film was released the same year as the Secret fof Nimh, also about animal testing and the animals escaping.
That's honestly one of my moms favorite movies. It used to make me cry hysterically when the more dramatic scenes would play.
I liked the book. It kinda pissed me off that they made the redemption magic instead of the wit cunning, and struggle of Mrs. Frisby. She wasn't even and enhanced mouse, just a field mouse who made things work. But they took that away from her by making her have mysterious magical powers that saved her family. No, she was smart, courageous and resourceful, even more so than the elitist altered rats who thought they were to good to be taken down a notch because they were "intelligent". It's an alright movie though, despite the diminishing of the main character from great and notable to just another no sense magic dropping fairy tale "hero".
Alexis Grey I watched the secret of nimph as I child due to my mom thinking it was a cute mouse movie ;-;
The bit with the gun was in the original book so you can't really blame the film for that. However, the book does have a happy ending. In the book the dogs get picked up on Sir Peter Scott's yacht! And not only that, Robert Lockley is on board (whose book "The Private Life of Rabbits" inspired Watership Down). The dogs also get reunited with Snitter's owner who adopts Ralph. I'm not sure if I prefer the darker film ending or the happy ending of the book. I suspect the happy ending would have resulted in a better box office return - and this film absolutely bombed at the box office.
The open/tragic ending is stronger imo.
@James Bond its kinda harder to except the happy ending with that info. Even tho I'm the type to prefer happy endings (I'm very pessimistic and just wanna see charaters be happy in the end) I'm happy the movie got to show the original ending. Its still depressing as anything tho.
And also, the dogs got a racecar.
Well... in both endings, the dogs die anyways, it is just the matter how you want to interpret the death
*This* is true horror. Not the stuff they show on screen nowadays
r/lewronggeneration
Nowadays. Right. Cuz that's not the most generic thing every single generation has "noticed" since the beginning of time. Yeah.
"NoWaDaYs" lmfao
Always gotta be some idiot talking about stuff like this.
@@yeetasaurusrex306 Nah, I'm in the right generation. The old days were too racist for my liking lol
The true horror is that animal testing goes on in real life
One lesson that stuck out to me in this review: never point your firearm at anyone or anything you do not want to destroy, including yourself. Jeez, that was brutal to watch.
I recently watched this movie, (the 1hr 20 min version though :/ ) and I looked up the place where is was set, 'Coniston' which is a real town in the lake district in England, and I looked at the shores nearest to it and where they are. The shore they probably went to and began to swim at was probably a bit south of Sellafield. The 'island' that they saw was most likely the Kokoarrah rocks, which stick out from the water at the horizon. But Rowf and Snitter may have also seen a REAL island, called the 'Isle of Man' which is about 60km from the point which they most likely started swimming.
So yeah, I hope that gives you hope that they made it :)
Thank you.
You have put my worries to rest. I can finally stop sobbing
In the books, Snitter’s owner is alive and finds them while they’re swimming
I’m not sure...I like the dark ending better.... I feel evil
Can dogs even swim that far?
Don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but I found it odd how as they swim out into the water, the army there only takes two shots, and they both miss, and then fog rolls in. I found it suspicious...trained soldiers taking two missed shots then letting the dogs go into the fog without chase. To me...I feel like that was not a normal fog. To me, I feel like those two shots didn't actually miss...
Shogun Bowgun In the book, one of the soldiers opens fire on a local farmer's sheep dog. Because of this, the army Major tells the me that their section commanders is the only one allowed to shoot. For other reasons that I won't spoil in case you are interested in the book, everyone is told to cease fire and not go after the dogs until they wash up on shore.
@@emilyfortin1797 I'll certainly read into it!
Shogun Bowgun Glad to hear that! It's a good book with a lot of good messages and different perspectives.
To be fair, its really hard to hit a target the size of a watermelon thats moving erratically at such distance.
Or (and this is in a way even darker) the army ceased shooting because... there was no island. The only land in sight was the one they just escaped. Why shoot a dog that is going to drown anyway?
I've watched many "dark" movies. Gory, tragic and generally horrible ones. However, I can't think of a single movie that emotionally haunted me as much as The Plague Dogs (as well as the book). The whole story is just setback after setback, after more setbacks... The whole element of the sufferers in the story, being dogs, accentuates this tragic theme, by how innocently and naively they view the world. Also, the ending is absolutely jaw-droppingly uncomfortable to sit through - however, it's actually in a positive way. Tragic stories, like this, effectively remind of us how bad a place, the world really can be, which only makes it even more important for us to practice goodness, kindness and love; that's the point of such stories, in my opinion: to inspire us to do good.
Btw, your voice is quite relaxing :)
Do you really think this is the saddest movie ever? Haha! Watch Grave of The Fireflies.
It's all a question of taste - my comment is a personal basis. Having said that, I really liked that movie.
Kristian J. I like that movie too. I am saying that I think Grave of the Fireflies is sadder.
@@_MythicalWolf my local news is a bunch of car crashes and politics and some deaths and very little positive things
(i guess you can call the "news" the "noose" oh god why did i make that joke xd)
that's a myth i think most movies have convinced us of. ie that good usually triumphs over evil since in hollywood and movies good wins out 99.99999% of the time.
the reality is in the real world there is so much more incentive for evil and less for good that evil wins out 95% of the time if we cared to look. which most people don't cos they're caught in the rat race of working/ going to school/ watching inane media or social media. there's a ton of misery under our noses.
i'm not a pessimist just a realist.
as you said tho we should still strive to do 'good'..however we define it.
films like this are important by bringing to light things the evil doers want to keep hidden.
silence and lack of action always aids the oppressor and not the oppressed, as they say.
I really think the overarching theme was about death vs suffering a fate worse than death. It really brought things full circle with the “I don’t feel no pain no more” song. The characters discuss death vs suffering a lot through the film, too much to ignore it as a major theme. It’s about death as relief when suffering literally cannot be escaped.
Under this video was an ad for dog food
*alternate ending?*
Pardon me for being a morbid idiot, but I immediately thought the dogs were turned into dog food.
MidniightMuffin Me too!
This made me remember a ps2 video game about a dog food company that actually used dogs to make, well, dog food.
PepperMistPepper
A Dog’s Life? (that’s the only game I can think of)
Yes! That’s the one!
Just remember:
All dogs go to heaven...
There must be more dogs in heaven than there are people. Besides, it wouldn't be heaven if there weren't any dogs there.
@@Zomby1Woof you realise that this comment is a nod to another popular review by this guy on a film called (all dogs go to heaven), right?
@@retf8977 Yes I do.
not these dogs, they conspired with the fox to kill other animals
'There's not such thing as bad dog, only bad treatment and horrible owners'
7:24 Well that escalated quickly, seriously the freaking army!
The army was called mostly because of the potential for an outbreak of bubonic plague. Plus the military gets used in animal culling all the time.
@ Excellsion - LOL. Yeah, wasn't as if the country was facing a potential outbreak of BUBONIC PLAGUE. Why get the army involved? I mean it was only BUBONIC PLAGUE, nothing remotely serious. Who cares if literally 50% of the human population dies within a matter of months?
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 Wouldn't the laboratory have records of which animals were tested with the plague virus and wouldn't they have told the army the escaped dogs didn't carry it?
Muggy If I remember right, since the dogs had caused a ruckus in the other animal enclosures as they were escaping, they suspected that the dogs were in contact with rats being tested with the plague. So there really was no way of knowing if they WERE in contact with the plague or not, leading to an outbreak of fear from the humans
@@muggy2128 The dogs made their way through several labs and potentially came into contact with plague. That is why the army was called in.
as much as I love these dogs and want them to be okay, I can't help but to think Ralph was lying to Snitter, giving him a little ounce of hope before death consumed them.
Yeah, I think it’s implied that the dogs drowned at the end.
Without doubt. The movie even tee’s you up for this. In the scene prior the fox /Todd yelps as he is shot to death. Skitter and Rowf hear this. Rowf quickly tells skitter “they’d never catch him he’s too fast”
@@DeCostaPictures8526definitely. The ending song talks about how “the pain is over” and “you know the answer in your heart” the logistics ALONE make the odds of them surviving low
Yup😢
Eh...that shot gun to the face though, like some near Final destination levels of coincidence lol
Diet Sexual_Chocolate man that was seriously a moment that I clearly didn’t expect
Ikr
It has happened.
@@horacegentleman3296 Really?
@@akerguido9399 yes, it has happened for real.
Tod broke up with his girlfriend and became a edgy emo
F in the chat for tod
In the book, the Tod says this(paraphrasing): "Snitter, ah can't keep roonin ferever. A Tod only meks a misteke once. Tell Rowf he's a canny yow killer" Then he runs off into the woods and gets killed by the hunter, Snitter blaming himself for the Tod's death, and always trying to remember what Tod told him to tell Rowf, his memory and mental health getting worse as the book goes on.
A edgy emo?
A edgy emo.
A edgy emo?
A EDGY EMO!
Then he become Gay.
I loved when you called Ralph "cynical". This word is from Greek "kynes", which translates to... dog.
As a Greek I like that
I see youre a Terraria fan of culture as well
You are right!...I just googled.
Me ''Would you like a tin of sardines?'' to friends visiting dog
Dog {Cynically} ''You better be not winding me up''
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Didn’t that come from some philosopher who was like “yo! I’ll be a dog!” And was naked and pooped with dogs and stuff. And he was the father of cynicism? What was his name??? Ahhhhh
Bruh the film leaves out one of the saddest parts of the book, the reason that man was so kind to snitter was because the man lived through the holocaust and seeing snitter with the scar on his skull and afraid made him feel empathy with him as the two went through similar experiences, it makes it all the more sadder when snitter accidentally kills him leaving to the lose of another master
Jesus, just brutal..
@ hey thanks for responding! Plague dogs have been one of my favorite books for a long time so i’ll add something that’s always stood out to me, when the man (named Mr. Ephraim) sees snitter he calls to him saying “Come boy, come here! You poor devil. They’ve gotten you too.” it’s a line that always stuck out to me too the greater themes of the book at large. (sorry for rambling, seeing this reply reminded me of the book and it’s one of my favs :)
How to be Emotionally dead the movie.
Jokes on them I was already emotionalmy dead
High five 🖐
@@masterzombie161 Woo ! 🖐🏻
5:55 and thats why you shouldnt keep a loaded gun pointed at your face...
*sienfield theme plays
I truly hate the idea that animation is supposed to fit in a “kid-friendly” box. It’s just another art form that has greater flexibility than live action in some cases. Here with Plague Dogs, this realistic animation was the best option. What is with this idea that animation shouldn’t be dark? Why is it so shocking? I mean I know the obvious reason of Disney popularizing animation for families, and so Western culture simply views animation through that lens, but why shouldn’t we push for more adult animation which covers complex themes? They were even going to do this in Bambi, where two leaves have a dialogue about impending death. Yet what we get is watered down entertainment catered to our need to constantly feel like everything is okay.
It's just a catagory of movies, it's not a conspiracy. Take your meds.
Blackavar WD No shit Sherlock, I can read a dictionary definition too. I was just saying this is how animation is viewed, and there’s no denying that.
@@LoryskaEntertainment
You had to read the dictionary to get that? Meds.
Blackavar WD You should read a dictionary to improve your reading comprehension
*_Bojack Horseman_* is a great example! It tricks you into thinking is going to be another “family guy” or “Simpsons” and then it hits you
I know it's a serious film, but the escalation of eventually calling in the military over two dogs and a fox is kind of funny in its extremeness to me.
Well, the people were speculating that the dogs were carrying the plague…
You do know that the bubonic plague killed around 50 million people in the 1300s, right?
So, I think it’s understandable that the government would take it quite seriously.
I mean, the dogs being targeted for murder by shotgun seems the most far out. Calling in the military to catch some dogs they suspect are infected with the plague seems more believable to me, since it would be disastrous if it spread...
It's kind of like Rambo
I know this is a late response, but it was more so a response of the possibility of the dogs carrying the bubonic plague (which would make calling the military a reasonable reaction), also it was likely the national guard and not the army (if the film takes place in the US).
@@swimmyswaggaming865exactly
I watched half of this and took a shower in between. One of my shampoo bottle says: "No animal testing" with a picture of a jumping, smiling bunny and i just felt so bad that most of the products i use daily ARE animal tested. Im sad now. Let me sob in peace.
Melida 665 Look up horseshoe crab blood. Testing saves. BUT, Jeebus is this writer/director combo depressing AS FUCK.
being sad doesn't do anything real.
just buy less animal tested stuff.
Yeah that's because cosmetic and health products can use the ingredients that were ALREADY tested on animals and repackage it with the claim that it's now cruelty free. Source? Me. I worked in animal research for 11 years.
@Starscream91 yes, though I try not to call it that because I don't consider the caring animal techs and researchers, or their endeavors, as evil. :) It's irritating and sounds like I'm avoiding an issue, but terminology matters when dealing with the public. You do the best you can to the best of your abilities for the welfare of the animal while trying to safely get reliable results. There's also the three R's that every animal research employee follows - Replacement, Reduction, and Refinement.
Thank you for being polite and respectful, I appreciate it! 😁
It's easy now to find cruelty free products. Also going vegan is cool, too, I can recommend it :)
This video: “Look, there’s a chimp rocking back and fourth because of all the inhuman testing it’s been through.”
The video right next to it on my recommended page: “A chimp literally ate the face of of someone over a tickle me Elmo.”
speaking of which thAT CASE HAUNTS ME TO THIS DAY
I remember watching a video about it about a year ago and I was terrified to walk into my hall. Imagine getting your face completely torn apart by a monkey. It’s a terrifying thought-
@@originaldimwit
Boi it's not monkey it's an ape
I’m not as positive about this, but I’m pretty sure that in the book the dogs *do* make it to the other side. Two men find the dogs and take them in as their own pets and it all ends happily. Though I could be wrong. Also, the farmer dying was actually part of the book. It was done the same way.
You are correct. The author breaks the 4th wall at the end and the dogs are rescued. As I recall, when they reach the dogs by boat, Snitter has drown, but is being held by Rowf. He's revived on the boat and they go live a good life.
@Omega2064 In the book snitter and rowf actually get rescued by a man in a boat and get their happy ending however after the movie debuted the book was reprinted with the movies open ending
There was alternative endings to the book or movie due to influence from editors. I forget which is the original ending though. I believe it was the ambiguous imagined island ending and the happy dogs are rescued ending replaced that. I'm sure there was an interview with Richard Adams explaining the original manuscript ending and the revised version.
that would be a cute gay family
The dogs were found by snitter’s original owner who was stay alive from the hit and run
" th-the flies in my head... They keep buzzing " brought a tear to my eye dude
Dogs: tries to survive
Humans: I'm about to end this dog's whole career
Same with most animals sadly.
@Alyas Fukename
The general public cares more about animals than ever but it's still not close to enough. I mean climate change pretty much kills countless species, so to say that humans don't affect wildlife significantly clearly isn't looking at enough wildlife. Not just wildlife either, humans still are growing in population which means more animals both domesticated and not are affected in negative ways. We care more individually now which I see as an improvement.
@Alyas Fukename
If u honestly think that regarding animals more than humans as innocent is not going to help the climate then I honestly don't know what to say. The biggest cause of climate change is methane produced by cows, which are produced in a rapid unatural rate, and it affects the rights of both cattle and wildlife that live in rainforests that get chopped down to make room for farming. You can't just say that people are acting fine to animals enough of the time, because we aren't. I should not have to explain why. Why do I have to explain to functioning human people that climate change is an issue that affects wild and domestic animals. It's clear that it's an issue for animal rights, and I literally shouldn't have to say that it is to people, it's entirely obvious. Don't know why you bother with this, I said a simple short comment and now it's turned into an argument that makes no logical sense. People killing animals and ruining ecosystems for food when they can eat other stuff is bad, and it's a real thing that is happening. Boom, that's all I can say, don't get why you're attempting to argue. Also the population needs to get better or we are all dead, and it's still growing- even if it's not as rapid.
@Alyas Fukename
Imma just not even bother anymore, you started a bunch of random stuff out of nothing. I lost reading the second you said it was dumb to value animals over humans, as that is extremely stupid and makes literally no scientific sense at all, and I'm tired of arguing with people on the internet about the entire ethics of the planet. I'm just done at this point.
Climate change is objectively a big issue, countless people have stated that, and I regard animals above humans not because I'm a normal functioning human, but because I'm the opposite, I regard them higher because I'm able to break free of cave-man purposes and have enough intelligence to see the bigger picture. You don't seem to get that humans don't naturally care for most wild animals, but that this isn't an excuse. We are clever enough to tell that animals are more innocent than us, including deadly predators, because of actual obvious surroundings located everywhere in nature, and so we SHOULD be clever enough to regard them higher than ourselves.
My god, humans are not chimps anymore. We don't hunt for food or mates or territory alone, we overall don't live in functioning ecosystems, we know when animals suffer and we know when they don't. Seems like ur trying to either humanize nature or trying to justify humans as a fine species that don't have inherent evil within them.
There are about 5 non-domestic animals that are cruel to others for 'fun'. Orcas, bottlenose dolphins, humans- these are all very different on an evolutionary scale to their relatives. Humans are not as good as other more primitive apes, bottlenose dolphins are not as good as earlier dolphin species, etc.
The reason for this change in recent animal behaviour is due to the meteor hitting during the late Cretaceous. Mammals rose up in an unatural, unstable way, and evolved in ways they would not normally have evolved. Simple. This created some species that had inherent cruelty in them unfortunately, including HUMANS. So that's why animals are objectively better than humans- a real life extinction event that caused a chain of events leading to mammals rising up in unatural ways, leading to mammals like orcas and humans... that can act bad if they want to, unlike other species.
So, that's why we suck as a species, it's not our fault we exist, but it is our fault to regard ourselves higher than wildlife. When it comes to climate issues... it's undeniable, right? I never read your full comment because I had to write this shit down, so I could be wrong, but, are you denying that deforestation and rapid, abusive farming affects the climate? Because if that's the case, then you may as well be a flat-earther.
Edit: ok, I read the full comment, and, yes, I agree that there are more complexities than just 'animal rights and CH4' but please don't deny that cow farming is the biggest issue. Also I don't know why you bring up CO2 at all. I've used facts here, and I can't see a reason if I were you to continue arguing. I've acknowledged your valid points and given genuine reasons as to why some of your points didn't make sense. I understand where you are coming from overall, but some of the stuff you've said is too basic when given arguments against.
@Alyas Fukename
Btw I'll admit I wasn't consistent before, but I am here, and after all I'm only arguing against 2 of your points here, I understand probably most of what your points are.
The Plague Dogs is a family friendly animated film.
*But wait it's not.*
Lame joke and I can't believe I'm replying to a 1 year old comment cz it is a PG 13 rated film made for teenager originally...
Gaming with Shakir this is a UA-cam comment section, what were you expecting, actually funny jokes?
@@silentninjack7905 why? The way that your telling... Can't anyone make a joke in UA-cam comment section? Yeah well I misunderstood or I didn't actually realize this wasn't a joke cz I was in a hurry but you are telling like you can't make a joke... Wtf?
@@silentninjack7905 I know this ain't a joke, I didn't care but the way that you are telling like you are restricted to give jokes or negative comments, in the comment section, like wtf.
Gaming with Shakir calm down dude no need to start ww3
man this way worse than the cat movie
I dont know which is more absurd how the dog stepped on the trigger or that the army is called to hunt down two dongs and a fox
Two WHAT.
Do NOT edit this.
They thought the dongs carried the plague. (and an STD)
Aw yes, m favorite animal,
*Dongs*
Got sad over the movie. Now I'm laughing my ass off.
The unofficial sequel is Isle of Dogs : they DID survive !
Yes
The creator said that’s not realistic so in the movie he makes them die
In the water scene after they disappeared into the fog you can hear the song saying something like “i have left this cruel world” and that “I feel no more pain”
@@miss.9836 let us be happy.
Sadly... dem dogs fookin dead
I think the saddest part is that the other dogs smelled the protagonists and said that they weren't sick at all
Todd, my dude, serving the ultimate sacrifice to buy his friends time. What a badass.
I went into this movie blindly. The cover caught my attention when I was looking for VHS tapes to check out from what was at the time my local library. Only a few minutes in and I was already _sobbing._ The ending, of course, left me blubbering in a pool of tears and snot...
The only other movie ending that's come close to provoking such a strong reaction is _Midnight Cowboy._
Have you ever seen the Futurama episode "Jurassic Bark" or the film Hachi: A Dog's Tale?
Melted down completely to both of these.
@@richardwatson298 There have been a few times where I've brought up the "Jurassic Bark" episode, and just talking about it gets the ol' waterworks flowing.
Haven't watched "A Dog's Tale."
@@richardwatson298ooh i used to watch futurama all the time and jurassic bark was so sad
Did you watch Watership down? Did you like it?
@styxrakash4639 It used to air fairly regularly when I was a kid, and our whole family watched it several times. I was about 9 when I first saw it and about 14 when I last saw it.
The brutality and amount of death certainly stuck with me, and I consistently cried over certain scenes--one in particular. I'm sure you can guess which.
I definitely cried more over _The Plague Dogs,_ though this might be due to my being older when I first saw it and, therefore, having better developed empathy. However, I'm not going to watch _WD_ again to test my supposition.
15:27: I always assumed that, at that point, Rowf had become so malnourished and exhausted that he was starting to hallucinate as well.
Lol rowf
They were both delirious at the end and I doubt they made it
@@t.kahraba763 Rowf wasn't, he was only pretending to see the island as well
What if Snitter's memories of his owner were fake, just ilusion due to his brain experiment? And he was just as unlucky as tu other one? Maybe the experiment was kinda like lobotomy - they wanted to check, if they can change pesymisic/depressed/agressive dog to optimistic and friendly one?
Brain surgeries as we know can change the attitude, cause seizures maybe even mix up memories
Woogsa Love the theory, but if you wanted an answer, in the book Snitter did have a owner. His sister hated Snitter and after the accident, sold Snitter to the Research Station, who was in need of a adult domesticated dog.
Well, I know, but i like to overthink things :p in movie's universe it would have made sense, right?
Woogsa Anythig would make sense in the movie world XD
Good point xDDDD
I'm sure it's all alien abduction
Since the ending is open to interpretation, here's what I think happened: Ralph and Snitter kept swimming until the eventually made it to the island, which turns out was real, but they pass out on the shore because they swam for so long.
Just when they're on the brink of death from exhaustion, something comes out of the nearby bushes and drags them further onto the island. Hours later, Ralph and Snitter wake up in a cave surrounded by other dogs who are being led by a human man.
They learn that the man had been stranded on the island for his whole life after falling off a ship and made the island his home, and as it turned out, Ralph and Snitter weren't the only dogs to have escaped the research facility.
All the other dogs had escaped from the cruel experiments as well, at different points in time, and they all swam away to escape from hunters until they came upon the island where the man took care of them.
Ralph and Snitter realize that not only had the dogs saved them from dying from exhaustion but brought them to their leader, who agrees to let them live with him forever on the island.
And so the story ends with Ralph and Snitter finding a new home and a new family, and living out the remainder of their lives in peace, free from the cruelty of the research facility.
That's my idea for what happened to Ralph and Snitter at the end, I thought it'd be a more lighthearted way to end their story after all the pain they've been through.
This made me feel so much better omg
That’s kind of like the book ending. Ralph and Snitter are pulled onto a boat and Snitter’s owner is on the boat. I think he was just injured and didn’t die but the dogs wouldn’t know that so they think they’ve both died and gone into the afterlife. Correct me if I’m wrong on any of this, it’s been a while since I’ve read it.
But goddamn what you said was so wholesome and nice ; - ;
@@HiBuddyyyyyy snitters owner is on the beach with a journalist who tracked him down. The men in the boat rescue rowf and manage to bring snitter back to consciousness
Honestly this is the type of thing we need to see more of. We are too evolved to continue cruel behavior like this.
Accept unevolved, primitive humans didn't experiment on animals
Man, this film just downright broke my heart. Those poor dogs were just running on a streak of bad luck and miscommunications. I just felt horrible for Rowf's trauma of water and Snitter's hallucinations & guilt ridden thoughts of him thinking that he killed his master or whoever he comes across just dies. And RIP to The Tod for his sacrifice to save the dogs from certain death. Tod is that type of character you would think that would backstab or abandon the duo but he ends up growing a liking to them. He didn't have to get involved in their predicament, but he can't help that he wanted to.
"Just stay with me... I'll get you there...."
-Rowf 😢
the saddest part of the open ending is:
watch where the bullets hit the water. there's not enough water in the way to slow them down that much. after the two shots, the sound of humans die down and the fog rolls in for the two dogs. 7:55
I haven’t read the book before but that sure doesn’t sound very open ended to me... it just sounds like a pretty clear metaphor for a tragic death.
Thanks for posting that! (Edit: that was a genuine thanks, not sarcastic btw. I was curious how the ending was intended and now I have my answer!)
@@AlbinoAxolotl the book is actually different! the author originally wrote it very similar to the movie ending, but it also had another ending that was less depressing but a deus-ex machina, where the dogs are picked up by a passing boat, snitter is reunited with his owner (who did not die, he was just in hospital. it was his sister who sold snitter to the lab because she didn't want to look after him), and rowf is eventually adopted after learning not all humans are evil.
@@DarciousMaluki
Sadly, animals raised in those conditions don't adapt well. Not exactly happily ever after. Maybe he's an "outside" dog, with a doghouse and food, atleast? Safe and warm, yeah.
@@BlackavarWD its hard to say. when the sailor pulls rowf up, if i recall correctly, rowf licks his hand and wags his tail. and snitter, on disembarking the boat, asks rowf if he wants to stay with the sailor and rowf is indecisive.
DarciousMaluki The deus ending was forced by the editors, he wanted the vague ending.
me, walking into my school library: do y’all got a copy of watership down or the plague dogs?
my library: :0
Watch Steve Reviews They Said
He Is Really Funny They Said
I fucking love your avatar
Well he is pretty funny. The stuff he covers is... well, a little bit less funny.
He'll make you laugh they said.
Not make your depression hit harder THEY SAID.
The good farmer was an idiot, he could've activated the safe mod of the shotgun, that way we could've a happy ending ;__;
Yeah
Lesson learned: Don't point your shotgun to anything you want to protect
pls he shouldn’t have had it pointed at him in the first place ;;
or toggled off friendly fire
It’s a “safety”
When he said they swam to the island and role credits I actually thought that was a joke and he will tell us more but he actually shows the credits
Me before watching it: Oh this is just gonna be another one of my recommendation lists..
Me after watching: *starts running to my dog and hugs her tightly* TELL ME THEY WENT TO THE ISLAND
Don't worry, there is the isle of man by where the beach they swam off of as well as some rock to rest on that stick out of the water, and the isle of man is only 37 miles from the beach they swam off of so in theory they could have made it 😄
@@bulldogblast1945 oh phew,,,,
@@suzukii499 and in one of the sketches for the movie they actually made it to the island and got a good home
@@bulldogblast1945 theres also another “island” closer than that, “kokoarrah” island ... much closer in fact... only about a mile from the shore, but... it only occasionally pops above the water due to tides
@@Anyo92 so it could be there, they could rest and then continue and survive
I believe your view of the ending really makes sense... how that little island is actually like... referring to the afterlife. PLUS that song in the intro and outro really adds up to that theory. As the song is about afterlife.
Especially the tone of the song and lyrics. The main lyric of the song is “I don’t feel no pain no more”
5:44
-Holds his gun where it points it at himself
-His gun is loaded
Yup, this sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
And it’s probably a shotgun, yeeeaaa totally a good idea
ikr? I wasn't even allowed to touch a gun before it was drilled into me to always keep it pointed at the ground, even if it's unloaded. If it's loaded, keep the safety on, always.
You should review Felidae, a 1980's movie about a cat name Francis who is trying to solve the local murders of cats around his new neighborhood. Its really spooky and is centered around religion and eugenics. Definitely up your ally if you watch stuff like this. I also recommend Chrin No Suzu or Ringing Bell 1978. Its about a baby ram named Chirin whose mother is murdered by a wolf. Chirin follows him and demands to be trained to become strong and fierce so he wont be a weakling anymore. The two have a interesting relationship and it has a unhappy ending that essentially means that revenge never heals your sadness or rage.
Jessica Linkonis woop he already did
Lol literally reading my mind here, I was thinking about Felidae then you said it...then I was like maybe Chirin...oh you said it again!
@@siqxyre8473 that was 4 months ago.
Looks like your wish came true
Jessica Linkonis I’ve never watched Felidae but boy, Felicity’s death is a death that she didn’t deserve.
It Pissed Me Off When The Guy Got Shot In The Face.
Same -.-
I was shocked. It goes to show how much of a bitch a single accident can be to life.
Hey don't be mean. Snitter is a good boy that wanted to get in the farmers car.
@@mariaoramas4691 i was talking about how it made me mad that they were going to finally get a happy ending, t made me mad and sad
Your pfp is driving me insane. What is it?
Me first watching this: is it really that bad
Me now: ...I'm gonna go yeet myself into the sun now...
I agree, I saw the island as the "afterlife" and when we see them swimming, it made me think they ended up drowning, and really did.. reach the island. A strange bitter sweet ending to me.
I'm really liking your reviews. Can I make a suggestion? How about Felidae, it's not AS dark, but it's still in the realm of "Surprisingly dark animation".
Felidae is a brilliant film!
not AS dark? are you serious? felidae is the trick-fecta of watershed and plague dogs lol. still a FABULOUS movie though, broke my heart
And cat sex, lots and lots of cat sex xD
charade539 good suggestion
I watched felidae on my phone on UA-cam when I was 10 and it fucked me up for ages akshajaja
I think the ending, despite how freaking depressing it is, being open to interpretation, was genius. Give people hope despite everything.
Wow. Haven't seen this movie in years. It always brought a tear in my eye. This video was great steve, you got me to remember one of my favorite animated of all times. You gave a perfect review of this. Thank you steve!
This is one of the only truly tearjerking and moving animated films I ever saw when I was younger. I really want to believe they lived and made it to the island... free from strife and the turmoil they both suffered.
I like to think they both drowned, but then awoke to a wonderful sight. That of Todd waiting for them on a rocky outcrop in a lush field. And the wariness of the years on their bodies seem to melt away. They go and great Todd who merely laughs and and asks what took them so long. Todd looks fit and heathy like he has never gone hungry in his life. They then go and chase each other through the meadow as it zooms out showing them heading off. Together. Now the three friends will be together forever to run and hunt and play. Never to see another White Coat or be harmed again.
So basically the three of them have returned as spirits back to where they once lived up in the hills. Since how they died I can't see them moving on to an Afterlife. But they are happy to just be and stay with each other forever. And I like to think at night people who live around there see three figures running fast like nothing else over the ground. And some nights the odd distant howl or two wakes folk up with a chill.
It still keeps it as sad since they are dead as well as stuck here. But they found comfort of having each other. Also you can think about Todd as already being dead. Long dead before the dogs find him. When Todd was shot his body vanished a few moments later, showing he wasn't truly there to begin with. And that his wish was to help the dogs. A spirit of a fox beaten and tortured by farmers decades beforehand leaning aid to two fellow broken animals.
I enjoy supernatural things and that last bit was an interesting thought to me.
WinterSkinLudwig Yeet you made my eyes leak, I’ll go with this interpretation
Thats Cool And Nice
I believe the novel ended with them alive and with good owners.
Another fox named Todd? That was the fox's name in The Fox and the Hound which also had a VERY depressing ending but since Disney made the movie it was not going to end that way.
I hadn't seen it sooner because it was banned, I'm glad to see it works now! Plague dogs is a very dark movie, but I remember reading that is has some differences with the book, such as (if i recall correctly) Snitter's owner being still alive and looking for his dog, who was captured and brought to the lab. I think it would have been nice to see him in the movie too, but I guess they had to cut him off. This movie made me courious about animal experiments though (like the monkey in the tank, which I learned is called the pit of despair) and I did some research on it. I gained some knowledge, so thank you movie! (even though you scarred me mentally!). I'm glad you made this review, I look forward to your next one!
Yeah sorry about the video ban confusing you, wasn't expecting the copyright bots to hit this so hard. I think for future vids I'll upload them privately first and THEN make them public once we get the green light.
The book did indeed have a happy ending, but the film's darker ending was what the author originally wanted, only changing it last minute in the book due to pressure from his Editor. I'm torn on which I'd rather, I think the darker ending is the more logical and superior ending as it drives the message home of the cruelty these animals went through, but I think the happier ending would have given the film a stronger narrative as we finally see the dogs get true payoff for all the suffering they endured.
And yeah every experiment you see in this film is based on real life experiments that took place (and maybe still take place)
I looked up the pit of despair.
What the actual fuck is wrong with some people? I'm not sure if Harlow's honesty in naming "the pit of despair" and "the rape rack" is a good thing or not - does it show that he realised how fucked up it was, or does it show that he had a sick sense of humour?
Nathan Gamble something tells me he wasn’t hugged by his father not enough and it stuck in his sick fuck mind
There are still really cruel testings on rats still going on, where everytime they sleep they are pushed from a platform into water or if they can find a way in a water maze.
@@nathangamble125 This world is cruel yet beautiful place. It is home to those who think the fucked up ends justify the fucked up means, those who let emotions take over and cloud their judgement, and the increasingly rare few that accept the world for what it truly is and try to make the best of it.
Welp. I might watch Watership Down; but I don’t think I’ll ever watch this.
I never had a dog of my own, but animal cruelty pisses me off a lot. Also the open ending would make me cry.
I’ve seen clips of Watership down before,but the only time I watched it fully was with the reboot
Plague dogs is a very rough and eerie movie, truly disturbing. It doesnt feel forced though. Everything that happens feels unfortunately natural. Not for the faint of heart.
I had a dog but he died and seeing the ending make me cry
@@crimsonilla6550 *Remake. A reboot disregards it's predecessor in leu of telling the story with a new/different perspective while a remake will tell the story essentially shot for shot with little to no details adding to the story with updated graphics. Examples: Fantastic 4 franchise-reboot, Robocop 1987 vs Robocop 2014-remake
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*The more you know*
Oh fuck. That ending got me. Stayed stone faced until the went into the fog, then cried like a baby.