10mm M&P Review
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- That feeling when a pistol just feels like it was made for your hand. Thats what I experience every time I shoot an M&P. Today I'm finally getting my review published for the 10mm M&P. I know its a little late but better late than never.
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0:00:00 Intro
1:15 Upgrades
1:48 MagSpring Upgrades
3:48 Optics
6:51 Barrel Length
8:32 Recoil
10:08 10mm or 45?
11:04 Holster Options
12:59 Extended Slide Release
13:45 New Trigger
16:36 Reliable?
18:58 Click The Links!!!
19:50 Accuracy
21:05 Conceal Carry?
21:49 Conclusion
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Love this review, honest and no unnecessary trash talk.
I try and keep it honest. Other channels focus so much on the theatrics that they forget what the channel is about in the first place
I live in bear country so went with a brand I trust. S&W has definitely knocked it out of the park with this 10mm. Very happy I went with 'em.
I'm in Spokane! Glad to have anouther Tacticool 10mm guy in the state!
Oh shit you need a 10mm out in Spokane damn near as bad as they need them in Seattle lol. Glad to meet you though I went ahead and subbed your channel
Yes and yes lol this state is slowly getting ruined and the animals are taking it back😬
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you for the sub!
@360TacticalSolutions I love my Smith and Wesson m&p 2.0 10 mm, and I love the trigger. It has been a very reliable gun.
I use a Midway holster for mine. A kydex made for red dot and TAC light and had a leather strap added to make it Level Two.
Awesome review brotha!! 👍🏼
My 4” M&P 10 mm fits inside my Tier 1 Concealed (Xiphos V2) holster that I originally got for my 4” M&P 9 mm with the Streamlight TLR-7A. Fits easily too, without any force.
Yes it's because of the way that Tier1 has designed their holster molds with less definition than a lot of other holsters. In the case of the 10mm M&P that works out. I mean the 9mm, 40, 45 and 10mm all have different slide dimensions and some would argue that you lose some of the stability for a gun like a 9mm because of that. Of course there is also the light to factor in. The frame sizing between a 9mm and a 10mm is considerably different so in the case of a light bearing holster where everything indexes to the light instead of the frame that certainly leaves a lot of room for using a different gun than what its made for. I actually use the McKinatec universal holster for mine and it works really well. I can swap between nearly all of my guns and still use the same holster as long as my TLR1 is mounted to it
Love my M&P 2.0 10mm with no safety lever and a 4.625 inch quad ported barrel by Mag-Na-Port and I use a Floyd’s Custom mag well and use Floyd’s Custom one round no spring change base pad. And use a Carver Custom HEAVY tungsten guide rod replacement. Along with a C&H Precision aluminum mounting plate for a Holosun 508T red dot. And X/S steel optic height tritium night sights upgrade. Streamlight TAC light and green laser. Apex flat black aluminum trigger. I love the upgrade ability of the M&P 2.0 10mm.
Very nice review, thanks!
Diamond D Outdoors has a chest holster for outdoor camping and hiking. I bought one and it is red dot and TAC light designed.
The 10mm M&P is a great gun
I make custome kydex holsters. I have the 4.6in M&P10 and I love it. I carried it every day until I got my hands on the Sig XTen. That's my new EDC setup. The M&P is now a backpack gun. I run the G40 MOS for duty. Absolute 10MM freak here. I also reload Hornady XTP 200gr ammo for practicing, and always carry the 175gr Critical Duty. I will say, I hated my Holosun popping off and shearing the screws into the slide from the stupid plastic plates they have.
I was looking at the Xten, but I might go with this.
Girsan(eaa) recently announced a DS 1911 in 10mm. Although it's a less reputable brand, it would be interesting if proven.
Take a look into Rock Island. They make really good 1911's for the price and no one makes 10mm like Rock Island. Im actually testing a 4" Rock Island 10mm 1911 right now. Took it for the first shots today. It's a beast.
Excellent review! I like your outlook, as to your statement as to you just never know what one might run into in the wilderness, that is so true! Which makes me very appreciative to live in the Land of the 2A!
I think this S&W 2.0 in 10mm is a promising pistol for Wilderness Defense against apex predatorial beasts or for Hunting purposes.
You basically covered it from A to Z with one exception there is a Lanyard Loop feature in the removable tool, in the Butt of the pistol. Which might need a hook-on swivel attached to a metal ring in order to hook on a Lanyard strap. In my local Gun shop, I test-tried the S&W 2.0 4 1/4 inch barrel model, in my Gun Flower EDC Tactical Open Concealed Carry Pouch and it fit. The Gun Flower EDC Pouch is a good option for carrying such in the wilderness.
Wishing you, Safe Adventures and Journeys!
It’s tough packing every detail in a video lol. I start most videos with about an hour to an hour and 20min of talking footage and have to cut it down to about 10min worth of final video. Any more than that and people skip right past it. I think with the tool built into the grip I skipped over that primarily because its something that they did back with the first edition of the M&P through to the 2.0 and its just basically something all of them have. Anyways its a solid gun and I love shooting it…I dont love buying the ammo but I do love shooting it lol
I work at a local gun shop where I live. We have installed the Apex trigger that is fit for the 45acp and they work great. No polishing needed. We have put well over 500 rounds with no problems. I would recommend it.
I got an email from Apex that the trigger had been certified for use finally for the 10mm and 45. It wasnt a matter of it not functioning, it was a matter of waiting for the safety testing to be completed. If one of your customers did have an issue your work 100% would have been liable for installing a trigger the manufacturer specifically said to not put it into. Sure the trigger functions but you have opened up the business to literally be litigated into bankruptcy.
@@360TacticalSolutions Good thing we have certified gunsmiths who know what they're doing. Also, it was approved just like we knew it was going to be. Relax, do-rigtht.
@@stephenbougher8665 no you are missing the point. Being a certified anything and knowing what you are doing...and installing parts the manufacturer says specifically aren't for that item can create a situation where the business ends up with multi million dollar lawsuits that you have no chance of winning. Its not a question of weather or not it works, its a question of liability for the business doing the work. Its a risky venture to send a customer off with a trigger like that
@@360TacticalSolutions I understand and am not missing the point. Then no gunsmith should EVER do any work on any gun cause it isn't always approved by the Manufacturer. You need to relax. Also, we tested this before sending a customer off.
Thank for the review. I just bought a 4.6 version. I would like a chest carry but it’s hard to find still.
I have ordered a variety of underwood including 220 grain which is what most people seem to have issues with. Also some lower pressure range ammo just for a bit of break in. I’m concerned about some of the heavier loads not running well since that’s what I plan to carry. This gun will be specifically for woods carry.
I was contemplating a heavier recoil spring for $35 to offset some of the punishing recoil and mag springs to help get a bit more push but had not considered the extension. I will now!
They say this gun has a 17# recoil spring but a 21 or 22 is much better.
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Right now im out of hiking ammo but I was using some buffalo bore hard cast. I don't have the info and I need to look for some new stuff. All in all it's a great gun.
Interesting.
I've got the S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol, to which I too added the +5 magazine extension from Floyd's, and the longer stronger 11-coil magazine springs from Springer Precision. My mags will now hold 20 rounds of 10mm Auto ammo. However, with the slide forward / closed, the magazine won't fully seat. No issues fully seating with 19+1. This magazine extension is (only) a +3 for the .45 ACP cartridge.
Also, my Multi Holsters "2-In-1" and L.A.G. Tactical "Defender" Kydex holsters made for my S&W M&P 9 M2.0 pistols (5" FullSize down to 4" Compact) also perfectly accomodate my M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol. The same goes for my Craft (Falco) Holsters 5" leather vertical light-bearing shoulder holster. That same "Defender" holster also perfectly retains my M&P 9 M2.0 3.6" Subcompact.
Good things! 👍
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Thank you .will definitely hit this company up for that 4.6 duty holster. Had a custom leather one made it's great, but I would like something a little more weatherproof. I understand the high cost of ammunition. It really forced me to start reloading. My main use is hog hunting. 10 mm does the job, man. Great review. Used to live in the Northwest, miss it a lot. Will be watching. Thank you.went with a C&H precision plate.
I definitely need to look into reloading. My main concern right now is space. My YT studio takes up almost all my office right now so im not sure where I would even set a reloading station up
@@360TacticalSolutions I'm very tight on Space right now too. I just use a single stage. Doesn't take up that much room. The quality of the ammunition I'm using now is very good. Problem with 10 mm is large pistol caliper primers or small rifle primers which are both stupid expensive right now
Light for caliber, fast expanding 10mm Auto rounds, like Underwood Ammo's:
- 155 Gr (Hornaday) XTP JHP
- 165 Gr (Speer Gold Dot) Bonded JHP
leave huge devestating wound channels, but they're relatively shallow.
I've seen lots of 10% ballistic gel tests showing typical depths of 11" ~ 14". So given that, and their huge energy dump, these should be great one-shot-stop defensive rounds against human attackers, with minimal risk of over-penetration.
In my 4.6" M&P, they're very controllable, being louder and snappier, but with less push back, than Underwood's 10mm Auto 180 Gr XTP JHP (which penetrates deeper).
Good things! 👍
10mm is a great round. Very versatile as long as you put it through a weapon that can run it smoothly and with minimal issues
M&P looks BadAss!!!
It’s a great gun. Love it. Sexy as hell
Really well done review, thank you. I picked up a 4.6" model a couple months ago. The gritty trigger went away completely after a good initial cleaning & 3 range trips & about 300 rounds, including heavy (220gr) Buff Bore & Underwood hardcast. Might be expensive ammo but seriously, what's your life worth to you ? So far for mine, not 1 FTF or FTE which surprised me after all the supposed issues.
It is a nice gun. I try and put at least 50 rounds through it on every range trip regardless of what gun im focusing on. Love the 10mm
Same and I haven’t had any issues. I’m running Buffalo bore 180 grain for edc.
In subsequent range trips I've mostly used S&B & Federal 180 & 205gr FMJs with no issues. Also Atomic, Grizzly, Underwood, CorBon, Federal, Gold Dots, HSM, & Freedom Munitions HPs in 180gr & 200gr. So far all have fed & ejected.
@@josephvoytus3694 right on! I’ve been seeing issues with the 4inch barrel, not so much the 4.6, which made me glad that I went with the 4.6 barrel 😂
Great review!!! I haven’t had any issues with mine either !
Awesome guns. I need to do a follow up video soon
I just recently got the Springfield xdm 10mm and its my new edc.Nice pick up and video.
Ive never liked the way the XD guns felt in my hand. Thats one of the things I always push when people ask what gun to buy or whatever…get out and rent one at a range and test it. Make sure it’s comfortable for you to shoot and you are accurate with it. That XDM works well for a lot of people…it just doesnt feel natural in my hand like an M&P. 10mm though, damn good round to make sure theres no question your target is going down
I also have that firearm. It is incredibly accurate. I don't like the way a red dot sits on it so I left it iron sights. Can't go wrong with it for the price accuracy and reliability great buy dude
@@michaelmcmillan2776 I like it a lot.It’s not as snappy as I thought either with that 3.8 inch barrel.
@@fragrancejourney01 I had to send mine back to Springfield. They said they didn't do anything. But they did replace the barrel. Since then absolutely flawless. I rotated to my EDC also. Spear Gold Dot has worked out really well
@@michaelmcmillan2776 I had to send mines back cause one of the optic screws wouldn’t come out and stripped out.They got it back pretty quick thou.
My guess is they picked those two barrel lengths to keep holster compatability with the m&p 45s
After watching many videos of this gun I truly believe its worth buying .
It really is
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I was in the market years ago for a high capacity high caliber pistol and while I was up on vacation in Colorado I got to speaking with a police officer that highly recommended the Glock 20 as it’s the #1 choice for the police out in bear country so I bought my first Glock 20 about 7 years ago and then second one soon after and now my newest gen5 mos and after thousands of rounds and dollars from cheaper ball Ammo to a lot of underwood and not even one malfunction. So, that being said, nothing is as reliable as a Glock, nothing. Smith and Wesson M&P10 has had a lot of reliability issues so I’d think long and hard before going up in bear country with a pistol that’s jammed on you and especially worry more under freezing, wet and dirty conditions.
Found the Glock fanboy that thinks there's nothing more reliable than a Glock. 😂 Plenty of pistols on the market that are FAR more reliable than Glocks. PX4 storm for instance. My "Compact" M&P 10mm has been 100% flawless. Meanwhile my buddies G20 won't run underwood ammo AT ALL.
First off, not a Glock fan boy and I’ve got a very large variety of high dollar pistols that I would BECER take to war with me, only Glocks. Your S&W MP10 is all over the media for being unreliable and I’ve got at least 5 Glock 20mm’s and each with thousands of rounds through everyone of them and all being 99% Underwood and 1%Sig. Even Sig 10mm has lots of failures and you can call me whatever you want to make yourself feel better for buying a “proven” unreliable M&P10 but reality is GLOCK is the proven most reliable hand gun in the world. Go ahead, look it up, don’t just lash out for being insecure. You internet commandos crack me up 🤣
Meant to say Never take to war
@@txgreek3512 Proven unreliable? There's like 5 guys on UA-cam who claimed to have issues. Meanwhile you have no real life experience with said gun so you're talking out your ass. Most of which claim those problems no longer exist. 🤣 Meanwhile, my M&P 10mm outperforms every Glock 20 I've shot. I have yet to see a Glock 20 reliably run full power 10mm like my M&P does. So go ahead and believe the 5 paid reviews on UA-cam, meanwhile there's THOUSANDS of videos of Glock 20's jamming with hardcast and even some exploding with light factory loads. 🤣 Have yet to see a M&P 10mm explode like these Glocks are. You do you tho keyboard warrior. I have real life experience with both platforms and far more rounds down range than you ever will between the two. There's a reason when you go to the comments on those videos, every comment is someone saying their gun works just fine. 🤣 "I own 5 of the same glocks" "I'm not a glock fanboy" okay kiddo. 🤡🖕
@@txgreek3512 There's not a person on this planet that believes you have thousands of Underwood 10mm through 5 Glock 20's. 🤣 You're so full of shit it's unreal. That's about $14,000 just in 10mm assuming you meant at least 2k rounds through each one. Nice try internet commando. Who tf shoots 99% defense loads through a 10mm instead of range loads? Either you're dumb, a liar or both.
I’m in Wenatchee! I just ordered a 10mm hoping to pick it up this next week!
Haha that almost makes us neighbors. You are just a hop skip and a jump away from Idaho…where they sell the full size mags for that gun. Not that I would advocate taking a day trip out there, having lunch and checking out the local gun stores lol
@@360TacticalSolutions I plan on getting some magazines that are blocked to hold 10 rounds for now
@@jonathanmendoza2749 Its a great gun for sure. I just had mine out this morning. Working on filming an update video with it. My local gunshop has one of the new long slide ported versions and im trying to talk myself out of buying it lol
I Love my M&P 10mm. I don't hang all that extra stuff on mine. It shoots very well with no issues.
They are great guns. I just had mine out last weekend working on footage for an update video coming up really soon. If only I could get cheaper 10mm ammo though lol
I hear you, I bought 2 boxes, 1 FMJ and 1 JHP. I paid $30.00 a box. I am a big Sig fan and have another M&P in 9mm that I bought a few years ago. I was going to buy the Sig XTen but it was almost a grand and I can't handle that right now. The shop let me shoot the S&W before I bought it and it is a beast! @@360TacticalSolutions
Heavy duty FUN.😄
I wanna be just as accurate shooting a charging bear or boar as with a violent hooman. Failing to hit a bear in the CNS just means he gets to charge that much closer to you.
I've heard complaints of the factory mag springs being too weak for the heaviest loads. Maybe by the time they fix that in their production process, they will announce a 5 inch model. 🤞🏻
I'll take one coated in sage green.
I love this gun. I also have another 10mm coming that I expect in the next month or so. Single stack RIA. I love shooting 10mm lol
Wondering if there is a spring that would work as it should without losing the 1 rd. capacity
One of the mags I tested by stretching the spring just a little bit. It’s held up very well so far and holds the slide back after last round. The other option is that you could use the Springer precision spring and cut one or two coils off of it. I almost like the option of stretching the spring best though
@@360TacticalSolutions Interesting, I purchased the Springer Precision springs and I was able the load the magazine with 19 rds. easily without cutting the spring. With the Floyds +3 magazine extension.
@@360TacticalSolutions okay, that didn't work well, the follower got caught between the extension and the magazine casing. Guess, yes Ill keep them at 17 rounds.
@@renerey34 I had that issue with one of them. I do almost feel like stretching the stock spring may work better but I'll have to do some long term testing
No Apex trigger?
Apex certified the flat face trigger right after I did this video. I have one sitting on my desk for it. I have one in my 4” 9mm and I have the metal competitor 5” I’m waiting to have clear the background check. If the apex works in the metal frame I’ll probably put it on there and keep the 10mm stock.
The Floyd’s mag extension gives you +5
This is wildly incorrect. The 9mm/40 gives you a +6 while the 45/10mm extensions give you +3
Floyd's doesn't sell a +5 for anything let alone the 10mm M&P
You forgot skinwalker and dogman aka werewolf.
The 10mm is a 4 inch barrel, not 4 1/4. :)
Awkward lol. Thats what I get for filming two videos in one day, both about M&P’s
My brains stuck on that metal M&P and not in a good way either
@@360TacticalSolutions ha....no worries, just thought I would mention it since you had a whole chapter on it.
Good god. I bought the 4inch. The thing won't cycle full power 200 or 220 grain more than 2 or 3 rounds.
My Glocks will run anything
I know some people have had issues while others haven't. I ran a few boxes of hard cast in mine and it ran fine. Due to cost, I highly doubt a lot of people are shooting that stuff in large quantities
I've run almost 700 rounds of Underwood 10mm Auto ammo through my 4.6" M&P, from, ranging from 140 Gr Xtreme Penetrator through 220 Gr FN HCL, plus 20 rounds each of Buffalo Bore and Steinel Ammo 10mm Auto 220 Gr FN HCL, enjoying 100% absolutely flawless functionality.
In total, 140 rounds of 10mm Auto 220 Gr FN HCL, and 120 rounds of 10mm Auto 200 Gr FN HCL.
My S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol is a great, highly reliable firarm.
Good things! 👍
This is insane on Smith & Wesson. You shouldn't have to spend extra money on accessories in order for a gun to function. They just need to stick with making 9/40 and what makes smith & Wesson so bad that they don't even make 40 anymore with the new mos m&p lineup.
Sig is in the same boat with the 357! How do you develop a round for firearms that you're not interested in making anymore.
Well…not to be rude but you missed the mark on all points. Sig isnt interested in their 357 because sales have been horrible since the round was released. They thought they had a winner but over time people have leaned away from it so the company has as well.
The 10mm M&P really was developed for the vast majority of firearm owners and the vast majority of those people are primarily using standard range ammo. Thats what the gun is tuned to. Its really only the high powered stuff people have an issue with and theres such a difference between both sets of ammo that you obviously cant please everyone so they aimed for the majority vs the minority. I understand the business of it.
As for the .40 M&P thats similar to the Sig situation. People are leaning away from the round so it doesnt make sense to dump a bunch of money into a gun thats hardly selling enough units to justify the cost of the tooling to make them. Although, it’s not true that S&W has stopped making .40 with their new designs…they just launched the Metal M&P 2.0 in .40 and honestly I dont expect sales to be great. Either people will buy the hell out of that gun or it’s going to push S&W even closer to discontinuing the line of .40 all together. Financially it only makes sense for them to focus on 9mm with how the government is treating firearm manufacturers these days.
@360TacticalSolutions How did I miss the mark on all points when it's my opinion on M&P putting out something that doesn't work. It's unacceptable if they know people are having problems with a magazine issue. People invest in the 10mm for it to shoot hot rounds 200 grains or better.
Far as 40/357 sig, it has a huge following. Just because it's not as popular as 9mm doesn't mean it doesn't sell. 357 sig has been coming down in price for the last couple of years. Me personally, if you really like something it's never too expensive.
Far as 9mm it's probably a conspiracy to push that round on the majority of people. I like 9mm but for the range only. I don't trust my life with it. There are too many police videos out here where the officer has to empty out a whole 17/20 magazine to stop a threat. With the body armor and drugs floating around nowadays. The 9mm round will get you killed.
@@armedrebellion47 we are going to have to agree to disagree. I get that your opinion is that people invest in 10mm to shoot the high power loads but the data from ammo manufacturers says the exact opposite. Same with your opinion on the 40/357 sig. Yes there are a lot of people out there using it, sitting in different gun groups talking about it and so on. What I’m saying is that sales numbers directly from contacts with a half dozen ammo companies as well as various firearm manufacturers tells a different story. If people were buying more ammo and firearms in those calibers then companies would be putting more focus on them. We all have an opinion based on what information we have at hand. I just happen to have a wider field of information because of what I do on my channel.
Oh for the days of unlimited free rounds off the Army.
Id settle for paying for my own but at the cost back in the 90’s. My uncle used to pick me up with 2 or 3 cases of ammo, an AK a mini14 and we would head out to have some fun shooting. Back then that was nearly nothing as far as cost goes. Now a day at the gravel pit like that is two months worth of mortgage payments
Apex. After over a year, has finally updated their website to say that the same trigger works in the 10mm.
This is disappointing news. I guess I have to spend some money and order one
So does the Timney trigger.I really like it.
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