I'm a guitarist and drummer, professional and I teach. My family has been professional musicians since forever ago. My grandpop played at the 500 club with guys like Sinatra and Dean Martin and played 2 gigs for some Italian men in south Philly with Jimmy page. He says Krupa is better. I aggree.
This is what sheer talent looks like, two of the greatest drummers of all time with one of the greatest all around entertainers of all time. We will never see their like again. RIP all three.
I only just discovered Gene krupa, my grandad died at the beginning of the year and when we were clearing his things I came across a krupa album. Now when I hear it I'm with my grandad again.
Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich had different styles that both bordered on incomprehensible talent. These were the greatest drummers of the 20th century and to see them on the same stage together must have been amazing to say the least. RIP to two geniuses of the art of percussion.
Thank you. These people on here are making this a battle of best, when it was clearly a friendly duo playing for the sheer happiness of it. These two greats were friends. Mutually respected each other & unlike these dumb ass commenters, never sought to best each other. I wish they'd just shut up, grow up & be respectful.
They both have very different styles, and i like both of them a lot. Idols for us drummers, buddy rich for the technical aspects, and gene krupa for the musical aspect. Respect
I am 71 years old and I've always admired and enjoyed Gene Krupa. In my opinion, he is still up there as one of the best! And when you watch his expressions while playing, always big smiles, you could always see how much he loved drummin'..an exceptional and very gifted artist beyond his time!!
@@roseterry2744 some might suggest the great modern drummers are people like Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, John Bonham , Ringo...but how do they compare to these two? or maybe you can't compare ?
I saw Buddy's big band in concert around 1980 and he never stopped playing through the whole concert. An incredible physical feat. I spoke to him afterwards but had to wait the best part of an hour first for him to recover.
Sammy Davis - who was also a great drummer in his own right - watching two masters just making really complex rhythm seem effortless. Amazing to watch.
What!!!! Are you f-king kidding me!! Three absolute genius legends in one night OMG! and on stage at the same friggin time.... I just hope the audience realised and appreciated what magic was happening right in front of them that night..... OMG what I would give to see this live.....somebody gotta invent some time travel shit immediately.
Buddy and Gene were great friends. Just before Gene died, Buddy organized a bunch of their fellow musicians and threw a party for him. "Flowers should be for the living," Buddy said of that. Gene was a gifted showman but he had nowhere near the sheer speed and technique Buddy had. However, Buddy recognized, as should all drummers, that it was Gene who brought the drums and drum soloing to the forefront back in the 30's. Buddy's solos were and still are a force of nature, but anyone watching this who thinks that's all Buddy was hasn't heard much of Buddy. He could be as delicate on brushes or soft on sticks with a trio or quartet as he could be hurricane force with his big band on one of his signature numbers like West Side Story or Birdland. These videos are few and far between, and they are priceless to future generations of musicians knowing the history of their instrument and who their "founding fathers" were. THANK YOU for sharing this!
Tom Baker Buddy ALWAYS made the claim that he was a much better drummer then "The Great Gene Krupa". In fact, Buddy stole Gene's girlfriend and married her. Gene had a lifelong struggle with drug's and self doubt. I hate to say it, but Buddy was his nemises and drove the final nail in his ending career with this performance...
I don't understand this whole "Gene got destroyed" idea going on in the comments. Gene and Rich are apples and oranges. Gene never tried to be the most technical drummer out there. He was known for playing to the music like no one else. Buddy Rich on the other hand was known for being a chop heavy technical drummer. I don't think anyone won the drum battle Buddy out chopped Gene but Gene played an actual solo. If you think chops are all you need to be a good drummer then you are sadly mistaken.
Robert Rodriguez I have to agree with you - Gene Kruper's solo is a lot more musical than Buddy Rich's which just goes hammer and tong for speed and technique... personally i preferred Krupers solo...
Hypnodelica Right there with you. I love Buddy Rich but at times I find his solos hard to listen to. Don't get me wrong they're impressive to watch but I would much rather here Gene play a little big noise than Buddy Rich take a fourteen minute speed solo.
I'm not dissing Buddy either - i've seen jaw-dropping solo's from him on other videos, some of which were VERY musical too - but this one just felt more like a technical exercise than a musician expressing their soul... On this video Kruper plays it funky and that's the way i like it... To be honest most of the time i'd rather listen to a funky drummer like Zigaboo Modeliste or Clyde Stubblefield than someone with more technical skill but less groove...
When I watch this I see Buddy working hard in deep concentration, demonstrating technique. Gene however, looks like he's creating music. He has joy on his face. I did the sound for a Buddy concert around 1976. He was so unhappy and made everyone tense. His band looked like they were all ready to quit. I didn't know Gene but I enjoy his music and he looks like he does too.
I saw buddy in concert in Toronto when I was a teenager. Much to my surprise, at one point the lights turned off him while the band played, but there was still drumming going on... I was watching buddy and he was towelling off and having a drink, yet I heard drumming and no other percussionist on stage. Clearly ran a tape at that point ... made me lose respect for him, plus he was a dick to his band with asinine comments on stage. Gene... more musical and always a gentleman.
@@larrysmac Exactly where in this do you see anything that makes you think the band look ready to quit? It's just absolute nonsense. He was not abusive to 'his guys'. He demanded absolute commitment and discipline. That's how it was in those days; if you didn't like it then you quit.
Is this great or what? Two of the absolute best drummers in history going at it. Krupa, with all the soul, and Rich with all the technique. I really wish they were both with us today. God what talent!
I’m surprised the stage didn’t collapse from the sheer weight of awesomeness it was holding. Those three Alone have more talent and class than about 80% of current “musicians “ today.
I'm old enough and lucky enough to have seen Buddy and his band when I was a drummer in my highschool marching band and orchestra. What I saw and heard still seems impossible to me. 💫
Buddy could (and did) destroy everyone with whom he battled. One can still see the respect he has for Gene as the godfather of "center-stage" drumming. It is simply a privilege to see these two legends share a stage. Gene, I'm sure, had the time of his life playing with Buddy, so close to the end of his own life.
Gene Krupa is a true pioneer of drums and Buddy Rich has amazing speed and technique, it is a complete matter of preference of who is the better one. I enjoy so much how the two guys enjoy the drumming and the mutual respect that they have.
@@rickdavenport9538 Rick I made this comment 2 years ago, but thank you for correcting me my grievous error. I still stand behind my statement though, Sammy Davis overseeing the Mr. Krupa and Mr. Rich's drum duel made it all the more special...had he one eye on the duel or two. again thank you for setting me straight Take care. Be Well..
Sammy Davis Jr., too was a phenomenal Renaissance man (comedy, impersonations, dancing, etc.) and played the drums quite well! Mel Torme, too was an excellent drummer!!! Saw a video of Randy Brecker playing drums and he too had great facility around them skins!!!
2:46 Even though buddy is my favorite drummer, I do personally think that Gene's solo was better because it was more musical. But this, the speed, the almost invisible accented hits with his right hand when playing the ride, the on Point tempo, truly amazing.
Both fabulous and different. I think Krupa is actually a bit more innovative. That stick thing he transfers with is beautiful. But wow Rich is a force of nature! Just a pleasure to see them together.
What's the point of being the most musical in a drum solo? Might as well not solo and just play to accompaning music all night like dingo starr. A solo is a solo because that's when a musician can let loose and have complete freedom of stage time. Hence the concept of jazz at the time also.
@@DG-sf9ei What's the point of a musician being the most musical while playing music? That's the entire point. It's why they're called musicians, not speed guys or finger movers.
Bud had the technique, no doubt, but there's something about playing with soul like Gene does here. Love both drummers and both drummers admired each other's playing, too.
Gene is definitely my favorite of the two. Buddy did a lot of technical things, but man, I'm just not feeling it with him. With all of Gene's recordings I really love every second of them.
Snavels yah well buddy was faster and more technical in overall better.. Even by his own account gene said it about buddy .. but taste is indisputable really. I love rich lot better than gene
Nobody 'destroyed' anybody here. When a pair of masters play off of each other for fun like this, we the audience reap the benefits because we are watching something incredible. This is true entertainment.
Never Heard of Gene Krupa before...Buddy Rich for sure He was an Amazing Drummer I was Torn from my VANHALEN Ways when I heard he past away from I Believe Brain surgery Correct me if I'm wrong Complications in 1987 RIP 🙏 Great Job on the Drum 🥁 Kit you were a Master !!
I'm not a professional drummer, but I have played drums in the past and know my way around any stringed instrument and I would like to refer to the great Ginger Baker. I don't remember the exact quote but he made sure to stress that these are not drum battles, but just drum duos. No one was out to seem better than the other and I think by looking on their faces this is made clear. Of course there is competition between Gene and Rich but I don't think in any way this was a competition to determine a winner and a loser. I think this was simply a chance for 2 legends to show what they have to offer one another.
Totally agree a.c.i am a drummer myself and have been into gene and buddy for 40 yrs.As much as i admire buddys technical achievements,ive always preferred gene.Such an innovator,responsible for the modern drum set up,gave drummers respect,and has a magic in his playing and appearance no other drummer has had before or since.Lovely guy as well.Never be another.
Watching them both is like Ying & Yang.........Different color of music brought to the kit, yet equally fulfilling. God bless both their souls. What they brought to the table is legendary. 🤘🏼❤🥁🥁❤🤘🏼
I saw Buddy play in the early 1980's. This type of music was new to me as I was in my late teen's/early 20's. I had heard of him before and Gene but hadn't heard their music. These two prove how awesome they are in this video. I didn't notice Sammy Davis Jr. at first in the background. I bet that was a fun show to be at.
I love Gene and Buddy and their drumming. Totally different playing styles that are each totally wonderful and totally excellent in their own way. And yes...I am a drummer.
As a professional rock drummer watching videos and basically being schooled by these two guys has made me a much better drummer today only the 1% will probably reach this level of play I salute you Buddy and Gene
I got to see Buddy Rich live in 1970 at a concert in the Carter Barron Amphitheater in Washington D.C.'s Rock Creek Park. At one point he pulled a slat back chair over and played it for a few minutes. It was absolutely riveting. 😮😮👏👏👏👏👏
I love this!!! A friendly rivalry between two amazing drummers!!! No “I am going to shoot you later”… No “my crew is harder than yours”…. 2 talented drummers and Sammy Davis Jr. not trying to keep it friendly… He is into the beat and having as much fun as the “rivalry” drummers!!! How did we get so lost in the last 2 decades??? Thank you for an amazing video!!!!
This wasn't a battle! Just two of the greatest percussionists the world has known showcasing their extraordinary talents and styles! Truly gifted men the likes of which come by our way perhaps only once a lifetime!
What a great video - this has taught me a huge a lot about what music is really about, and what a solo is really about. Buddy Rich is obviously more technically impressive, but I enjoyed Gene's performance more because it had more heart and humour in it (that isnt to say its better or worse - I just happen to prefer it).
The Voe that ending going down the stick onto the drum sealed it for me. Buddy Rich has much faster hands, but even with slower hands Gene Kruppa did more with the drum set to show a level of mastery of the instrument.
Man two of the greatest drummers in history, I get goose bumps watching this and both of these guys I’ve learned as much as I could about them anyways 🙂
Wow. Drum royalty on full display here. I would love to know just how many musicians these two influenced. Fast forward 10 years and I could easily see Keith Moon as Krupa and Ian Paice as Rich.
I remember my mother saying " Boys, You've got to see this! " years ago when it was replayed on a local channel. Her eyes lit up with joy in showing us something cool from her childhood in Brooklyn,N.Y. Thanks for the memories.
Buddy had enormous admiration and respect for Gene, whose showmanship put drummers on the map for the first time and, in a trickle down effect, eventually increased their earnings. Buddy's physical ability put him in the "once in a century" class, along with violinist Jascha Heifetz, pianist Earl Wild, and hitter Ted Williams, and perhaps Roger Federer. His solos are amazing displays, of great interest to fellow drummers, but are neither narratives nor poems. For the latter, we must turn to Jo Jones and especially Big Sid Catlett. I hope people have heard them or at least heard OF them. Gene was a terrific big band drummer. In his prime, his technique was quite good but he was not a natural. Throughout his life he always sought to improve. He went to Juilliard to study with NY Philharmonic timpanist Saul Goodman and even when old and sick he was working with Jim Chapin (I think). The best drivers of big bands ever were Chick Webb, Dave Tough, and Jo Jones--bar none. And Buddy and Gene would be the first to agree! Despite their own fame, they remained respectful of true excellence their entire lives.
Krupa was an amazing drummer. His talent led to a cascade of talented students. I should think the talented Peter Criss has paid homage to this great individual. Comparing talents creates a battle as to who is best - and best at what? Krupa was in his own right, a very gifted musician, developed a style that people of his time related to. His style with the drums was huge and has longed been remembered by those still around of an era gone by. His process of developing a style will live on with those who want to learn the true techniques of a dedicated artist.
Gene had the rimshots on the 12/8 singlets, while Buddy had a style more inclined towards drum corps (a very tight traditional stick grip and mostly wrist strength). I miss both styles of set drumming, to be honest.
Mum took me to see him live in london when i was about 7 years old...she thought i might be bored....she was wrong..still remember that experience till this day..
Neither one of them won. The only people that won is the people that get to see this video. You don’t compare these 2. They are at the top level at what they each do. Once musicians reach this level no one touches them. I could watch both all damn night. They will still influence young drummers as it should be.
Krupa always had the style and creativity, Buddy always had the speed and precision. They were both masters to me, Krupa will always be my favorite though.
SOOO MUCH POWER, shame the cameras of old were not able to truly capture this treasure which is forever lost to time. What i would give to be able to hear this live and hear what it should actually sound like
Now that I am older I truly understand this video. Gene Krupa while he is my all-time favorite drummer, he is more of a percussionist than a drummer. He probably could have been like me and just picked up a bass guitar and started playing it like I did. When I play the drums I go for the tonality of it just like Gene Krupa did. Buddy Rich is a freaking drummer. Dude is on point his chops are unbelievable. I don't even think this is a battle because it's just two completely different styles. I guess I never really noticed that until now watching Buddy Rich square off against Krupa
Sammy Davis "judging" ha... My son saw Buddy Rich in concert in about 1984 while a 9th grade drummer. He got to go back to his dressing room and meet, talk and had him sign a drum head. My son was taken to concert by music director at Iowa College. My son played drums, the director played keyboard and the directors son played marimba in a trio. He still has the signed drum head... lucky boy to have met him. I personally believe Gene Krupa was the greatest drummer of that era. Someone must have agreed as he was voted just that..,. he died in 1983." Great man. Both of them. 🎶💫 🥁💫🎶
As a kid in the late 60's, I remember watching Johnny Carson. Whenever Buddy Rich was on, it was always treat, magical. I didn't realize at the time what I was watching was the fuel, early blueprints of the foundation which would propel my ship, a life in a world of music to follow to this day. Those of you who get this, know it's not a matter of choice. Simply put, Buddy Rich was a major catalyst in and of my life..One of the "Big One's"..
I'm 90 years old- I saw this battle live on stage when I was a teenager in Detroit Mi. Vern Lauterbach
Wow that's spectacular!
Where in Detroit?
You da man
I'm a guitarist and drummer, professional and I teach. My family has been professional musicians since forever ago. My grandpop played at the 500 club with guys like Sinatra and Dean Martin and played 2 gigs for some Italian men in south Philly with Jimmy page. He says Krupa is better. I aggree.
Sounds like you had some good times, and we'll spent time at that.
This is what sheer talent looks like, two of the greatest drummers of all time with one of the greatest all around entertainers of all time. We will never see their like again. RIP all three.
this what bad music sounds like
I would put Louie Bellson on that list too.
@@juliosanchez95 No , you’re thinking about Rap..
And? Class, not crass.
@@jimarcher5255 Uh, I think he means "bad" as in amazingly good! How old are you?????
It's awesome to see Buddy's face while Gene's solo. Music is art, not competition
Exactly 🙂
I only just discovered Gene krupa, my grandad died at the beginning of the year and when we were clearing his things I came across a krupa album. Now when I hear it I'm with my grandad again.
How cool is that
Whattya think of Didi Troit? I saw a coyote by her place last week..
Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich had different styles that both bordered on incomprehensible talent. These were the greatest drummers of the 20th century and to see them on the same stage together must have been amazing to say the least. RIP to two geniuses of the art of percussion.
more recently, great drummers according to some, are Ginger Baker, Keith moon, Ringo Starr, John Bonham...how do they compare to these two ?
Ever hear of Neil Peart? ;-)
@@sbonamo no
I could watch Buddy Rich all day. I could listen to Gene Krupa all day.
My son is a drummer Neil Peart his Idol- had posted on FB Neil's tribute to Buddy Rich I am going to repost this 2 his page as I did awhile back
I could watch Gene Krupa all day, too.
There it is
@@glorialittle3656 Your son had selected a great drummer in the late Neil Peart as your son's idol 😀😀😀😀.
I could watch AND listen to Buddy Rich all day.
I can watch AND listen to Gene Krupa try and fail to match Buddy Rich all day.
When Gene played, the earth stopped to watch...
When Buddy played, the earth rumbled.
How cam ANYONE dislike this ? Two of the best drummers EVER
Thank you. These people on here are making this a battle of best, when it was clearly a friendly duo playing for the sheer happiness of it.
These two greats were friends. Mutually respected each other & unlike these dumb ass commenters, never sought to best each other.
I wish they'd just shut up, grow up & be respectful.
Regardless the best two drummers ever....and like you said,two friends enjoying what they loved.
Because Buddy was a chronic self serving asshole. Ever listen to the bus tapes?
Probably fans of "Nu Breed" 😂
mike manggini is a good drummer too
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note the look of reverence and respect on buddys face watching gene take his solo.He loved the man.All drummers owe them a lot.
They were great friends. They also did an album together in 1956. I still have it. Great album
@@jt6759 , I have it as well, and as a drummer for over 30 years it still boggles my mind the synchronicity these legends have on this album!!👍
Mostly Gene. Buddy was also a tyrant
I observed that, too. I took it as Buddy reading Gene's moves as he patiently waited for his cue in 💜
@@magnificentmuttley154 yes patiently waiting to destroy him with utter speed
Sammy in the back smiling like "Damn these white boys are good, real good" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
TrapSkateLive 👏👏👏👏
Sammy was one of the coolest cat 😎
They both have very different styles, and i like both of them a lot. Idols for us drummers, buddy rich for the technical aspects, and gene krupa for the musical aspect. Respect
I am 71 years old and I've always admired and enjoyed Gene Krupa. In my opinion, he is still up there as one of the best! And when you watch his expressions while playing, always big smiles, you could always see how much he loved drummin'..an exceptional and very gifted artist beyond his time!!
@@spammullet875 Buddy just plays for applause. Gene sticks in great music in his solo.
Respect
@@2204JCM Buddy just plays for applause. Of course, he's jewish.
@@roseterry2744 some might suggest the great modern drummers are people like Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, John Bonham , Ringo...but how do they compare to these two? or maybe you can't compare ?
Wow, my first listen to Krupa. So much of Bonham’s snare work soloing inspired from him.
Buddy Rich was fast and thunderous and Krupa was all groove and Soul.
I agree, Buddy focused on too much on speed for me. I much prefer the groove and soul of Gene
Buddy Rich was more groovy if yah ask me. He just was more balanced than Krupa was.
Krupa for me. More soul. Buddy often seemed like a bit of a tool.
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Exactly Buddy was faster, but Gene’s had rhythm and was much more musical.
Both of them are legendary and will never be forgotten!!
Who?
I saw this video a few days ago just getting a feel of what great drumming is and these 2 guys have set the standard
I saw Buddy's big band in concert around 1980 and he never stopped playing through the whole concert. An incredible physical feat. I spoke to him afterwards but had to wait the best part of an hour first for him to recover.
Did some of his greatest playing at the end of his life
The only winner of this battle is the adience. It's great to see Sammy in the middle.
Walt Likker ...And he’s clearly loving every minute of it - talk about a front row seat!!
And Sammy could play drums too!
Sammy should have joined in, he was quite the drummer himself!
Gene Krupa!!! The WORLD'S GREATEST DRUMMER!!!!
Sammy Davis - who was also a great drummer in his own right - watching two masters just making really complex rhythm seem effortless. Amazing to watch.
What!!!! Are you f-king kidding me!! Three absolute genius legends in one night OMG! and on stage at the same friggin time.... I just hope the audience realised and appreciated what magic was happening right in front of them that night..... OMG what I would give to see this live.....somebody gotta invent some time travel shit immediately.
Buddy and Gene were great friends. Just before Gene died, Buddy organized a bunch of their fellow musicians and threw a party for him. "Flowers should be for the living," Buddy said of that. Gene was a gifted showman but he had nowhere near the sheer speed and technique Buddy had. However, Buddy recognized, as should all drummers, that it was Gene who brought the drums and drum soloing to the forefront back in the 30's. Buddy's solos were and still are a force of nature, but anyone watching this who thinks that's all Buddy was hasn't heard much of Buddy. He could be as delicate on brushes or soft on sticks with a trio or quartet as he could be hurricane force with his big band on one of his signature numbers like West Side Story or Birdland. These videos are few and far between, and they are priceless to future generations of musicians knowing the history of their instrument and who their "founding fathers" were. THANK YOU for sharing this!
WELL SAID, my good sir!! Two classy gentleman right here with an incredible talent and skill.
Tom Baker Buddy ALWAYS made the claim that he was a much better drummer then "The Great Gene Krupa". In fact, Buddy stole Gene's girlfriend and married her. Gene had a lifelong struggle with drug's and self doubt. I hate to say it, but Buddy was his nemises and drove the final nail in his ending career with this performance...
Q : do you know what a metronome is?
A : A little short guy from the big city.
God bless Y'all.
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He who laughs last thinks slowest.
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Have a great day.
God bless.
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A: They don't know the words.
The mutual respect is there for all to see, as well as their contrasting styles. Two true greats of drumming that deserve never to be forgotten.
I don't understand this whole "Gene got destroyed" idea going on in the comments. Gene and Rich are apples and oranges. Gene never tried to be the most technical drummer out there. He was known for playing to the music like no one else. Buddy Rich on the other hand was known for being a chop heavy technical drummer. I don't think anyone won the drum battle Buddy out chopped Gene but Gene played an actual solo. If you think chops are all you need to be a good drummer then you are sadly mistaken.
Robert Rodriguez Especially considering this gig was rehearsed not a single time
Robert Rodriguez I have to agree with you - Gene Kruper's solo is a lot more musical than Buddy Rich's which just goes hammer and tong for speed and technique... personally i preferred Krupers solo...
Hypnodelica Right there with you. I love Buddy Rich but at times I find his solos hard to listen to. Don't get me wrong they're impressive to watch but I would much rather here Gene play a little big noise than Buddy Rich take a fourteen minute speed solo.
I'm not dissing Buddy either - i've seen jaw-dropping solo's from him on other videos, some of which were VERY musical too - but this one just felt more like a technical exercise than a musician expressing their soul... On this video Kruper plays it funky and that's the way i like it...
To be honest most of the time i'd rather listen to a funky drummer like Zigaboo Modeliste or Clyde Stubblefield than someone with more technical skill but less groove...
Hypnodelica Right there with you! People forget that it's all not all about the speed. It's the feel that's important.
When I watch this I see Buddy working hard in deep concentration, demonstrating technique. Gene however, looks like he's creating music. He has joy on his face. I did the sound for a Buddy concert around 1976. He was so unhappy and made everyone tense. His band looked like they were all ready to quit. I didn't know Gene but I enjoy his music and he looks like he does too.
His band looked like they were all ready to quit because they always were. BR was known to be abusive to his guys.
My grandpa played with him. Said BR was a complete asshole, but a real talent. People loved Gene, hated buddy.
Also heard Rich was an a-hole generally.
I saw buddy in concert in Toronto when I was a teenager. Much to my surprise, at one point the lights turned off him while the band played, but there was still drumming going on... I was watching buddy and he was towelling off and having a drink, yet I heard drumming and no other percussionist on stage. Clearly ran a tape at that point ... made me lose respect for him, plus he was a dick to his band with asinine comments on stage. Gene... more musical and always a gentleman.
@@larrysmac Exactly where in this do you see anything that makes you think the band look ready to quit? It's just absolute nonsense. He was not abusive to 'his guys'. He demanded absolute commitment and discipline. That's how it was in those days; if you didn't like it then you quit.
Is this great or what? Two of the absolute best drummers in history going at it. Krupa, with all the soul, and Rich with all the technique. I really wish they were both with us today. God what talent!
I’m surprised the stage didn’t collapse from the sheer weight of awesomeness it was holding. Those three Alone have more talent and class than about 80% of current “musicians “ today.
Real talent!!! Real musicians!!!
These were the guys who taught me how to play drums back in the 60's. Thanks for the memories.
I'm old enough and lucky enough to have seen Buddy and his band when I was a drummer in my highschool marching band and orchestra. What I saw and heard still seems impossible to me. 💫
"Buddy Rich, the greatest drummer who ever drew breath" - Gene Krupa
Too bad he never heard Neil Peart !!
Chris Hershey agreed. But Bonzo the best ever. Pearl #2. Love them both.
@@chrishershey4012 Peart was a fine drummer, but didn't really compare to these gods
Buddy Rich never played in a Rock Band so how can you even compare the 2 ? You CAN'T. Both Masters at their Craft
"Elvin Jones wasn't bad." - Me
You can see the love and respect these two gentlemen had for each other.
Wow two legends on stage at once and kickin it out with a simplistic kit.
3 legends--Sammy's there!
Buddy Rich is more technically proficient while Gene Krupa is much more musical
There is no comparison.
A big yup!
@@maxdominate2481 yes there is.
Definitely
Buddy was young...his skill and techniques got so much better
No battle. Two great players having fun.....
Buddy could (and did) destroy everyone with whom he battled. One can still see the respect he has for Gene as the godfather of "center-stage" drumming. It is simply a privilege to see these two legends share a stage. Gene, I'm sure, had the time of his life playing with Buddy, so close to the end of his own life.
Gene had the artistry, invented the sounds, my fav.
Are you serious? Krupa was fire and Buddy went with it.
@@johnshannon9656 YEP!
Perfectly said. Gene created the idea of the star drummer, but nobody, before or since, has haf Buddy's chops. RIP both.
joe Morello could smoke Buddy Rich with one stick. Listen to "Sounds of the Loop".
What a great show!! I wish there were shows like this on TV today. These guys were some of the biggest stars in the world at the time.
Two of the greatest drummers ever!! They were legends in the 1950's, and still are today.
Two of the greatest that ever played drums. Thanks for sharing.
Just great seeing two of the greatest drummers playing together, they are amazing.
Love you both, guys. Gene wins hands down.
Buddy!!!
Gene has that great animal swing feel, it sounds fantastic behind the band. But, Buddy is just from another planet.
Both have their styles..........both are great drummers..........both have influenced millions.
Love to both Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich. Buddy Rich wins!
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You could almost see the fire in Buddy’s eyes when he watched Gene play...
Gene Krupa is a true pioneer of drums and Buddy Rich has amazing speed and technique, it is a complete matter of preference of who is the better one. I enjoy so much how the two guys enjoy the drumming and the mutual respect that they have.
What an amazing treat. And with Sammy Davis (pre-accident, when he lost his eye) overseeing the drummers duel makes this all the more priceless.
Sammy always did keep an eye out for a good drummer...
That's not right. Sammy lost his eye when he was still performing with his dad and uncle. Well before the Rat Pack.
@@rickdavenport9538 Rick I made this comment 2 years ago, but thank you for correcting me my grievous error.
I still stand behind my statement though, Sammy Davis overseeing the Mr. Krupa and Mr. Rich's drum duel made it all the more special...had he one eye on the duel or two.
again thank you for setting me straight
Take care.
Be Well..
@@elizabethferguson7002 it's all good. We clearly adore these men. That's all that matters.
Sammy Davis Jr., too was a phenomenal Renaissance man (comedy, impersonations, dancing, etc.) and played the drums quite well! Mel Torme, too was an excellent drummer!!! Saw a video of Randy Brecker playing drums and he too had great facility around them skins!!!
Two Greats. I Loved Them. The Best Pete Siny 😊😮❤
2:46 Even though buddy is my favorite drummer, I do personally think that Gene's solo was better because it was more musical. But this, the speed, the almost invisible accented hits with his right hand when playing the ride, the on Point tempo, truly amazing.
Good point.
Both fabulous and different. I think Krupa is actually a bit more innovative. That stick thing he transfers with is beautiful. But wow Rich is a force of nature! Just a pleasure to see them together.
What's the point of being the most musical in a drum solo? Might as well not solo and just play to accompaning music all night like dingo starr. A solo is a solo because that's when a musician can let loose and have complete freedom of stage time. Hence the concept of jazz at the time also.
@@DG-sf9ei What's the point of a musician being the most musical while playing music? That's the entire point. It's why they're called musicians, not speed guys or finger movers.
@@DG-sf9ei go listen to a Steve Gadd or Dave Weckl solo
Bud had the technique, no doubt, but there's something about playing with soul like Gene does here. Love both drummers and both drummers admired each other's playing, too.
Gene is definitely my favorite of the two. Buddy did a lot of technical things, but man, I'm just not feeling it with him. With all of Gene's recordings I really love every second of them.
Snavels yah well buddy was faster and more technical in overall better..
Even by his own account gene said it about buddy .. but taste is indisputable really. I love rich lot better than gene
Yes, KRUPA 🌠
Musically Gene is the better drummer.
Honestly for me ,music in Krupa drumming, technic in Rich
Im more of a G K. Guy too yep
I’ve always wondered what it would have been like to have seen Chick Webb play!!!! Would have loved to have seen all these greats
Buddy Rich drum set!!! Top of the line back in the dayz. 2 drummers everybody and they mom knew. Buddy Rich & Tito Puentes.
Buddy beating that snare like it owes him money!!..Damn!
Nobody 'destroyed' anybody here. When a pair of masters play off of each other for fun like this, we the audience reap the benefits because we are watching something incredible. This is true entertainment.
Never Heard of Gene Krupa before...Buddy Rich for sure He was an Amazing Drummer I was Torn from my VANHALEN Ways when I heard he past away from I Believe Brain surgery Correct me if I'm wrong Complications in 1987 RIP 🙏 Great Job on the Drum 🥁 Kit you were a Master !!
I'm not a professional drummer, but I have played drums in the past and know my way around any stringed instrument and I would like to refer to the great Ginger Baker. I don't remember the exact quote but he made sure to stress that these are not drum battles, but just drum duos. No one was out to seem better than the other and I think by looking on their faces this is made clear. Of course there is competition between Gene and Rich but I don't think in any way this was a competition to determine a winner and a loser. I think this was simply a chance for 2 legends to show what they have to offer one another.
Totally agree a.c.i am a drummer myself and have been into gene and buddy for 40 yrs.As much as i admire buddys technical achievements,ive always preferred gene.Such an innovator,responsible for the modern drum set up,gave drummers respect,and has a magic in his playing and appearance no other drummer has had before or since.Lovely guy as well.Never be another.
Hello Kim, How are you doing?
You are so right! Many today don't realize the true talent they are witnessing and hearing on this video. Buddy Rich!...., all that needs to be said.
Two of the greatest to ever play the instrument, in a video that is important history. Let them never be forgotten.
Watching them both is like Ying & Yang.........Different color of music brought to the kit, yet equally fulfilling. God bless both their souls. What they brought to the table is legendary.
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THESE TWO GUYS ARE THE TWO BEST DRUMMERS EVER👏👏👏👏☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️✌️
О, боже мой, как Здорово, как Великолепно играют и игриво, от души. Потрясающе, Браво! Я в восторге!!! Сие, Товарищи, классика!!!!!
Priceless! Thank you kindly for sharing
I saw Buddy play in the early 1980's. This type of music was new to me as I was in my late teen's/early 20's. I had heard of him before and Gene but hadn't heard their music. These two prove how awesome they are in this video. I didn't notice Sammy Davis Jr. at first in the background. I bet that was a fun show to be at.
I love Gene and Buddy and their drumming. Totally different playing styles that are each totally wonderful and totally excellent in their own way. And yes...I am a drummer.
As a professional rock drummer watching videos and basically being schooled by these two guys has made me a much better drummer today only the 1% will probably reach this level of play I salute you Buddy and Gene
As you know Jazz Drummer are on a nother level.
I got to see Buddy Rich live in 1970 at a concert in the Carter Barron Amphitheater in Washington D.C.'s Rock Creek Park. At one point he pulled a slat back chair over and played it for a few minutes. It was absolutely riveting. 😮😮👏👏👏👏👏
I love this!!! A friendly rivalry between two amazing drummers!!! No “I am going to shoot you later”… No “my crew is harder than yours”…. 2 talented drummers and Sammy Davis Jr. not trying to keep it friendly… He is into the beat and having as much fun as the “rivalry” drummers!!! How did we get so lost in the last 2 decades??? Thank you for an amazing video!!!!
"Gene is absolutely the first man when it comes to drums." -Buddy Rich-
What a historycal moment of drum playing. Two greatest legends. Rest in peace for both legendary men.
This wasn't a battle! Just two of the greatest percussionists the world has known showcasing their extraordinary talents and styles! Truly gifted men the likes of which come by our way perhaps only once a lifetime!
The way Buddy Rich brought it back in was just great.
What a great video - this has taught me a huge a lot about what music is really about, and what a solo is really about. Buddy Rich is obviously more technically impressive, but I enjoyed Gene's performance more because it had more heart and humour in it (that isnt to say its better or worse - I just happen to prefer it).
The term is “More Musical”. We all love chops but not when the music suffers.
Here Buddy is probably more technically proficient, but I think Gene's solo is far more interesting and inventive.
The Voe that ending going down the stick onto the drum sealed it for me. Buddy Rich has much faster hands, but even with slower hands Gene Kruppa did more with the drum set to show a level of mastery of the instrument.
Man two of the greatest drummers in history, I get goose bumps watching this and both of these guys I’ve learned as much as I could about them anyways 🙂
2 of the greatest drummers ever.....many of todays drummers site Buddy Rich as their inspiration.....just sheer poetry in motion...
Playing the craziest stuff I ever saw. Wearing suits and ties. Not breaking a sweat. That’s seriously amazing drumming. Rich was a total beast.
Wow. Drum royalty on full display here. I would love to know just how many musicians these two influenced. Fast forward 10 years and I could easily see Keith Moon as Krupa and Ian Paice as Rich.
I remember my mother saying " Boys, You've got to see this! " years ago when it was replayed on a local channel. Her eyes lit up with joy in showing us something cool from her childhood in Brooklyn,N.Y. Thanks for the memories.
Great drummers true masters of their art
Buddy had enormous admiration and respect for Gene, whose showmanship put drummers on the map for the first time and, in a trickle down effect, eventually increased their earnings. Buddy's physical ability put him in the "once in a century" class, along with violinist Jascha Heifetz, pianist Earl Wild, and hitter Ted Williams, and perhaps Roger Federer. His solos are amazing displays, of great interest to fellow drummers, but are neither narratives nor poems. For the latter, we must turn to Jo Jones and especially Big Sid Catlett. I hope people have heard them or at least heard OF them. Gene was a terrific big band drummer. In his prime, his technique was quite good but he was not a natural. Throughout his life he always sought to improve. He went to Juilliard to study with NY Philharmonic timpanist Saul Goodman and even when old and sick he was working with Jim Chapin (I think). The best drivers of big bands ever were Chick Webb, Dave Tough, and Jo Jones--bar none. And Buddy and Gene would be the first to agree! Despite their own fame, they remained respectful of true excellence their entire lives.
Your writing was respectful
I like floyd sneed alot since him aldridge and bellson pioneered the double bass configuration
Krupa was an amazing drummer. His talent led to a cascade of talented students. I should think the talented Peter Criss has paid homage to this great individual. Comparing talents creates a battle as to who is best - and best at what? Krupa was in his own right, a very gifted musician, developed a style that people of his time related to. His style with the drums was huge and has longed been remembered by those still around of an era gone by. His process of developing a style will live on with those who want to learn the true techniques of a dedicated artist.
@mike strawn,John Bonham favorite drummer was Krupa,Krupa had a heavy influence on bonham.
Thank you so much for this. Absolute delight!
I don't know much about the technical aspect of drumming but I do know I got chills during BR's solo.
Gene had the rimshots on the 12/8 singlets, while Buddy had a style more inclined towards drum corps (a very tight traditional stick grip and mostly wrist strength). I miss both styles of set drumming, to be honest.
1:57 My favorite part of the whole video.
Drummer for 53 years here in 2022. To play this way restrained with a suit and tie and slacks wearing Stacy Adams, that makes it even harder.
Mum took me to see him live in london when i was about 7 years old...she thought i might be bored....she was wrong..still remember that experience till this day..
I cant imagine wearing a suit while playing that!
rip rip rip rip LOL
Battle of the Titans !!!
Makes me smile to watch the left hand grip I was taught to use sound so perfect.
Try doing that in a suit and tie! Truly amazing display by two of the best ever!
Neither one of them won. The only people that won is the people that get to see this video. You don’t compare these 2. They are at the top level at what they each do. Once musicians reach this level no one touches them. I could watch both all damn night. They will still influence young drummers as it should be.
Krupa always had the style and creativity, Buddy always had the speed and precision. They were both masters to me, Krupa will always be my favorite though.
SOOO MUCH POWER, shame the cameras of old were not able to truly capture this treasure which is forever lost to time. What i would give to be able to hear this live and hear what it should actually sound like
Three class acts on one stage.
Thank god for videos
How many drummers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
10
1 to do it and 9 to say "I could do that"!
Patrick Burke lolol!
Now that I am older I truly understand this video. Gene Krupa while he is my all-time favorite drummer, he is more of a percussionist than a drummer. He probably could have been like me and just picked up a bass guitar and started playing it like I did. When I play the drums I go for the tonality of it just like Gene Krupa did. Buddy Rich is a freaking drummer. Dude is on point his chops are unbelievable. I don't even think this is a battle because it's just two completely different styles. I guess I never really noticed that until now watching Buddy Rich square off against Krupa
Sammy Davis "judging" ha...
My son saw Buddy Rich in concert in about 1984 while a 9th grade drummer. He got to go back to his dressing room and meet, talk and had him sign a drum head. My son was taken to concert by music director at Iowa College. My son played drums, the director played keyboard and the directors son played marimba in a trio. He still has the signed drum head... lucky boy to have met him. I personally believe Gene Krupa was the greatest drummer of that era. Someone must have agreed as he was voted just that..,. he died in 1983." Great man. Both of them.
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As a kid in the late 60's, I remember watching Johnny Carson.
Whenever Buddy Rich was on, it was always treat, magical.
I didn't realize at the time what I was watching was the fuel, early blueprints of the foundation which would propel my ship, a life in a world of music to follow to this day.
Those of you who get this, know it's not a matter of choice.
Simply put, Buddy Rich was a major catalyst in and of my life..One of the "Big One's"..