0:00 Intro 2:00 Going Over Crowder’s History 22:20 H3H3 vs Crowder Debate 24:30 SAM SHOWS UP! 33:00 Steve’s Dad is Going to be Mad 37:28 Post “Debate” Recap 1:03:15 Crowder Calls In A Favor 1:22:20 Wrapping Up
Even if you don't follow youtubers, politics, social media or any online drama - this whole thing by itself, without any context - is terribly hilarious :'D
Yah it is a sham. I mean why won't Crowder just grow a pair and debate Seder? He went running with his tail between his legs before we could get a debate! ;)
@@4doorsmoreguns193 it's not homophobia to say a woman is probably sick of picking up after her very likely deeeeeply closeted yet homophobic spouse. Poor gal probably doesn't get any action from him as a result, ya know?
Ethan’s greatest ability is that everyone thinks he’s an idiot. Ethan is actually an incredible interviewer, he’s not scared to ask any question he wants and people generally walk right into his trap because they don’t think he’s capable.
yeah, I've especially noticed that in his debates with hasan, bro may only really have the knowledge base of the average person when it comes to politics , but he's really smart and doesn't let people get in his head
@@KarlSnarks It's the middle of the day and your phone is dead. You sit at your "Change My Mind" table, unable to check your notes. Suddenly, out of the corner of your eye you spot him -- _"Samuel Seder."_
The fact that Sam Seder looks like someone who can just be there on campus for his Masters or PhD (for a 50 year old man he looks like he is in his early to mid 30s) he could probably disguise and ambush debate Crowder lmao
@@angusmarch1066 Now it's dark and you seem to have lost him . But you're hopelessly lost yourself. Stranded with Samuel. You creep silently through the underbrush. A-ha! In the distance. It's Pappa Crowder's cottage. There's a light on. Hope! You move stealthily toward it. But your leg! Ah! It's caught in a bear trap!
What's really great is realizing that Ethan could have gotten the exact same response out of Crowder just by putting a still image of Sam up on his stream. His paranoia was off the charts.
He literally said Ethan was a layup, then refused to debate someone who comments on politics for a living. How does his fans not see that as a weak move.
How can you sycophants not realize how weak a move it is to say you’ll debate someone on an issue and then bring in some random no body to talk about a different issue, instead.
@@teshkit456 a nonody that crowder knew of and feared enough to have people monitering his stream to avoid him. H3H3 wasn't a badass for bringing in sam, but crowder was a bitch that ran from a real debate with his tail tucked between his legs.
Crowder's initial, instant reaction was the genuine one. "Oh no, it's Sam Seder! What a fucking nightmare!" - Crowder, in an unironic state of panic. QED
funny thing is, that is a german running gag in regards to Andreas Scheuer (a politician) and Newton, ever since the Anstalt, a great cabaret show, has made Newton be the voice of reason and science to school Scheuer for his idiocy
Crowder literally has videos of him confronting people who he spars with online without their knowledge that he's going to show up. For him to cry foul here is beyond pathetic.
None of their criticisms add up. They claim to be upholders of open debate and free dialogue, yet flee in terror when a sincere opportunity presents itself. They claim ignorance of Sam, yet knew everything about him, provided stats, information about his career choices. They claim to be macho and stoic, yet are the most snowflakey and triggered of all. They just abound with hypocrisy and grift. But if you think about it they must hate themselves. They are eminently hateable. It would make sense.
Yeah, he does this with the college kids too. Any time one of those kids are totally destroying him, he feigns offence at the smallest comment in order to make them leave. It's fucking embarrassing to watch!
@@dlg78 That has nothing to do with what I said. My point is Crowder claims he won't debate Seder because he's irrelevant and not big enough, yet he'll still debate random college students, so he's obviously being dishonest. Do you disagree with that? Yes or no? try to answer without pivoting. Oh and why would Seder need to "boost" his profile? You realize he's one of the biggest lefties on UA-cam, right? Oh and that thing you're accusing Seder of doing (hijacking his show), Crowder did the same thing to Cenk at a conference, only there he didn't make actual arguments, he just did a really bad, cringey impersonation (probably because he knew he would get wrecked in an actual debate)
@@luismurillo5855 they actually aren’t the same thing at all. ‘Change My Mind’ isn’t two people knowingly preparing for a debate on a particular subject, this was! Ethan was extremely disingenuous here and just a flat out lier as HE agreed to debate himself which he didn’t at all so I don’t know why it’s even being called a debate. This is just typical lefties tactics as you aren’t talking about what Ethan did. Maybe watch the entire unedited video and that may change your mind (no pun intended 😂)
@@davitdavid7165 I think part of it is their idea of sensitivity is "freaking out" cause most of these gen ys and zs (me included) got roped in because of the cringe comps, among other things. They may not see being pensive and vengeful as sensitive, when in reality it's the most (to borrow a phrase from them) """""beta""""" thing you could do.
Right ?? How many times does Ethan have to say he’s not a debater .. how can you defend crowder after this . He only wants to debate people that aren’t actual debators. He’s wearing a “ Fight like Hell” shirt and can’t even show himself on screen when Sam shows up. You can’t write this stuff lol
Ethan literally admits that the reason is that he is too stupid, that's not what a coward is. Crowder on the other hand won't admit that he is too scared and instead searches for excuses, *that's* cowardice :)
i appreciate you trying to make a goody good progressive joke but there's no such thing as a "biological man".. that's a transphobic term, because it implies you're "born" a gender, when society assigns it to you
Crowder and his sidekick literally filibustered the whole time. They were so afraid of Sam they talked hysterically non stop so Sam couldn’t be heard. Then accused HIM of “interrupting”
Ethan just saying "i am dumb" is so good though. He understands what crowder is trying to do and is not blinded by his ego, which is why he double crosses him.
Gotta give him that one. He knows he would end up looking stupid on a real debate so he does exactly what Crowder fears he would do. Still a cowardly move to agree to a 1 on 1 and back out.
Funny how Ethan is on the left and chickened out of debating him. Ethan knows he would have lost, so he backed out and brought someone else in. How pathetic can you be.
@@teshkit456 What’s cowardly is only wanting to debate people that have no experience debating and have no history of even talking about political subjects in a way that shows they would be able to engage in debate. If someone like the quartering asked vaush to debate, and then when vaush showed up he had like Jordan Peterson as his backup. I’d laugh cause like that’s silly but if vaush ran away and didn’t even attempt to talk to Peterson, he’d be just as much as a coward. Even though it’s not a great comparison because Peterson has a hundred times the audience of Sam Seder.
@@FortuitousOwl Ethan talks about politics plenty, that’s why the whole thing started because Ethan was talking about covid and it’s policies. He also agreed to debate Crowder so I’m not sure how cowardly it is to enter into a mutual agreement like that. But whatever, you’re too ingrained in your ideology to admit maybe crowder is in right, sometimes.
Idk, Crowder says Sam isnt funny but his Little League analogy was funnier than anything Crowder has said in his entire life and sam didnt even need to use a black-face-voice
@@christianbustillos4066 People that did minstrel shows also used ridiculous voices to depict black people. So it’s not that far fetched to say black face voice.
@@christianbustillos4066 It's actually accurate to call it a black face voice. People doing minstrel shows don't actually sound like black people, believe it or not. They put on a tone to mock and degrade them, which is a caricature. So yes. Crowder does a black face voice to make fun of POC.
@@christianbustillos4066 Looks like other people already answered your question. Specifically, I am referring to Crowders poor attempt at a joke recently -- the one suggesting Black farmers grow meth crops and such
He’s so flustered that he can’t even speak coherently. His point about Mike Tyson doesn’t make sense. Shouldn’t it be “I can call out Mike Tyson, that doesn’t mean he’s ducking me.”?
THE WAY CROWDER'S VOICE CHANGED THE MOMENT ETHAN SAID HE CAME PREPARED, HE SOUNDED SO FUCKING NERVOUS LMAO It's like he had an idea of what might happen and his ass clenched hard enough to shatter a Nokia 3310 phone
Crowder: I'm not ducking you, you're just beneath me. Sam who? Also Crowder: I specifically based my schedule on your show to make sure I wouldn't run into you.
Sam: "why do you..." Crowder: "Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam, can I answer your question, Sam Sam you're interrupting me, Sam Sam Sam just let me just answer your question!"
Yes because what they do is ask a bunch of questions and then forget every single one they asked you. & they think they're actually beating you in a debate while all they're doing is giving a monologue. by asking questions with skewed statistics and false premises, then they actually think they proved you wrong by talking over you and not letting you respond. People like you guys here are with you hates a blabbermouth a racist and idiots H3 H3 projects. Dude we don't got to think about it let's just listen to the government about sticking sit in our a$$es
Crowder: "you only have one million subs, why would I talk to you?" Also Crowder: "hey there naive college students, want to change my mind on a certain political topic?"
If he’s only got a million subs and isn’t worth talking to then he should have an easy time right? It’s like a professional boxer refusing to fight someone because they haven’t had enough fights. He’s either a coward, a fraud or both.
I've never seen him debate anyone worth debating like ever. He dodges everytime he goes against someone that is smart or has media experience and now he finally got confronted and he fucking panicked.
@@blargh3428 conservatives only debate people on their payroll or inner circle, they also like to make propoganda bugging students to prove college is dumb. They literally are unable to get confronted by their peers. Honesty and accountability hurt them
Yessir - even the euphemism used to hide this antisemitic stereotype (the Velveteen rabbit) is dehumanizing, reducing Jews to inanimate stuffed toys yearning to be alive. Strangely, I hear RWNJs try and excuse this bigoted means of physically slandering an entire branch of humanity all the time, usually with stuff like "It's not antisemitic, it's just the truth - people who wear glasses all the time tend to have small-looking eyes!" Which isn't true, of course - if it was, people like Steven would be taunting every person they see with glasses. If Steven had been feeling especially edgy, he'd have used the word "beady" in his description of Sam's eyes - that word walks right up to the line of acceptability. Not technically racist, but we know when it's being abused...
I reported crowder over a year ago for wearing that socialism is for figs with a pistol on the table, said he was promoting terrorism against gay people. I'm taking credit for getting the ball rolling and banning his dumb ass.
Now they’re saying Sam just isn’t worth the time cuz he’s a liar. Ok then. Expose his lies to the world and flex that 5head brain. Oh? Not worth your time? Ok keep changing college diapers the
@@lustrazor44 he dosnt like sam specifically. from what ive learned yesterday, almost nobody likes him. if hes being a pice of shit and nobody want to talk to him that is his fault. ethen said stupid shit, and crowder offered him to stand behind his words and clarify. out of the blue lie to crowder and expect him to just go along id disingenuous. and stupid.
@@FiryaFYI if you don't like someone you should be more motivated to humiliate them in the marketplace of ideas. You don't run away from things you hate, you run away from things you fear. Sam has openly said he doesn't like crowder yet he doesn't run away from talking to him, or any of the other right wingers who don't like him.
That's why Crowder spends so much time repeating over and over that Prove Me Wrong is a "conversation" not a "debate." It's easy to miss, but once you look for it you notice that Crowder spends a lot of time weaseling out of any potential failures he might have by trying to define himself out of losing. "I didn't lose because it wasn't a debate." "He attacked my immutable characteristics, so I have free reign to be ableist in response." He prepares by laying down a field of false, or irrelevant premises so that his little army of defender bots can latch on to some fallacy or another in the comments. Laying out troll food in advance so they can feed themselves right from the start. He can just run in circles, arguing semantics, without ever addressing the actual topic.
Ethan: I'm an idiot, so here's someone smarter Stephen and Dave: What, are you too stupid to debate us? Ethan: Yes. So debate Sam, he's actually informed. Stephen: *malds infinitely*
"They were looking for Trojan Hippos but didn't keep their eyes out for the horse." That's a great quote and i'm gonna be using that. That's just gold right there.
@Ben Woodcock I mean, that kinda IS what debate is for, actually. Debate is actually a pretty inefficient way of arriving at truth, it's mostly just a posturing competition where you try to make yourself seem smart and strong and the other person weak and dumb. Why do you think Crowder prefers debating random college students rather than people who want to debate him and are actually prepared to?
@Ben Woodcock wait are you responding to me? In that case that’s dumb as fuck. Not only does crowder only debate college kids, but he DOESNT call out Seder for supposedly wanting to increase his stock because he’s IGNORED Sam until now. Can you imagine a left wing figure using an excuse like that to debate someone on the right? We all know you’d be changing your tune dude
@Ben Woodcock >obviously to increase his own stock cope. you have no basis for this claim, but only use it to justify crowder's blatant cowardice. firstly, seder has 1 million subs, he is not in some desperate need for clout. secondly, he was also almost exclusively willing to talk about actual issues while crowder only attacked and belittled him. actually debating him would be much less "rewarding" for seder clout-wise but instead we got this clown show where crowder embarrassed himself and the whole thing has gotten way more attention than otherwise. you have to inhale a serious amount of copium to think crowder actually cared about seder gaining popularity.
I like to imagine that Steven was nervous when Ethan said he was prepared, not because he was expecting Sam, but because he fears debating somebody who is prepared.
Lol, the voice change was a God tier moment. I haven't heard someone sound that suddenly nervous since 8th grade listening to people give class presentations!
Anyone who uses their massive platform as an excuse not to debate someone is immediately barred from ever complaining about big tech censorship ever again
Imagine Sam showing to a "Change My Mind" event disguised with a hat and covid mask. When standing face to face with Crowder Sam rips the hat and mask off with a big grin plastered on his face as Crowder proceeds to turn and run in horror ala. the teens from the Friday the 13th movies when Jason Voorhees shambles into their camp.
Sad thing is Sam Seder isn’t even smart, crowder is just that bad. Sam Seder, David pakman, vaush and tyt are a bunch of ideologist with no action. Especially Sam Seder, he wishes he was Rachel Maddie so bad
@@agentandersonwick8796 wait their job is meant to inform others.... Of course they aren't going to instate action like a senate person because that's meant for politicians who can actually uphold leadership. It's like saying a teacher who uses sources to teach others how to start a business is a fraud just because they haven't started a business. Simply informing others isn't a job to be looked down upon
@@dream-lh4pc lol Sam Seder informs others of it not being the right time for Medicare for all and outright lies about losing the speakership of the house to a Republican. If that idiot would have been around for the women’s suffrage movement, women would still have no rights till this day. Women’s rights was dismissed time and time again. A bill important bill won’t be approved first try. That’s what Sam doesn’t understand. He’s a fool who rather do nothing because of personalities he doesn’t like. Dudes a neoliberal
Coward was so unhinged in this. He was literary holding back tears and just screaming like a toddler. The Co-host running in to take the camera off Steven was so surreal I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Watched it on stream last night and thought I was having a fever dream. Just about fell on the floor when the co host scurries to fix the mic and put headphones on
when will conservatives realize that we KNOW ethan did some sneaking around to pull this off. crowder is an awful person and i couldn’t care less that ethan was being “dishonorable” or whatever. i don’t give a shit about a man who calls gay men pedophiles and has made so many racist caricatures on his show. he had it coming, plus it was funny as hell and i loved it lol
Exactly, it’s also really weird how they are pretending that Ethan is some kind of leftist-debate icon? Like what? Not one person cares that he didn’t actually debate Crowder. Anyone with half a brain should have realized that he was only there for the memes. I do enjoy watching Crowder fans cry though.
I love how Crowder is constantly called out as a coward and he has not retort for it. I wonder if any of his viewers saw this and had second thoughts about the kind of man he is. He was laughing over Sam the whole time, nothing funny was even said he just wanted to not let him be heard.
Lol, yeah Sam's used to to it, so he doesn't lose his chill that easily. Watch any of the debates he's done with libertarians in the past and just marvel at how they become unglued as Sam just sits there and debunks their points and just stays supernaturally calm.
@@VMonkies Honestly Vaush could learn more from the way Sam and Pakman talk to people. That cold and calm detachment they have makes them look real good in debate especially when the opponent is being offensive. It works especially against offensive people because their whole schtick is making you mad and it makes the dude look like a child when it doesn't work.
The funniest part about this is that there is pretty much not a single outcome of this situation that looks worse if you’re Steven Crowder. All Crowder had to do was peddle some nonsense for an hour and called it a debate. He would’ve gotten owned a few times, but in the end he probably could’ve postered about it to his audience and gotten away with it.
@@FiryaFYI steven crowder has a total of 1.36 billion views on his channel. the majority report has a total of 474 million views. that means steven crowder is a little under 3 times bigger, not 50 times and certainly not 171 times.
@@jeffscave7481 You know what? i just checked the number. and something doesn't add up. in the last month on the actual yt channel of Crowder there is about mill+ views Seder gets on average 15k views. similar channels with 1 mill gets about 150-300K views per vid. so either seder does some foul play to pump numbers, or its the same 20K people from his mill subs who watch his content. either way, that shows sam has much to gain from Crowder. All in all, that is irrelevant. Steven made it clear he doesn't like sam. that is enough reason for him not to feature sam on his channel. Steven doesn't owe sam anything
@@FiryaFYI to be fair, the majority report has over 17000 videos, and not all of them even include sam seder. steven crowder is obviously more popular than sam by a long shot. still, i think his excuse that sam is a smaller channel alone shouldn't affect his willingness to debate him. but as you said, crowder doesn't owe anyone anything, and as long as he's scared of sam we probably won't get to see the two in a reasonable discussion.
@@jeffscave7481 you confuse avoiding with fearing. unless you will admit your bias, you are mistaken. for all we know he dosnt like the guy or want anything to do with him. if someone i despise would do a trick to meet me when im trying to avoid then. they may get decked straight up. imagine setting up a date with this cute girl, and she stooding you up only to send one of her ugly friend. that would piss you off i guarantee it.
I think Crowder was more referring to the amount of views, not subscribers. Subscriber count is a really poor metric of weighing a channels popularity. If you look at Seders channel, he has several times the amount of uploads, with relatively few views. In fact, the average view count on seders videos is like 3-10k. Now if you look at crowders channel, his videos have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views. And with far fewer uploads. Based on that, yes I would say Crowders channel is definitely far more popular.
@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny keep inhaling that copium lmao. Also it's completely irrelevant. Audience size has nothing to do with intelligence and merit. That's something a kid in middle school would say. You Chowderheads are endlessly embarrassing.
didn't Steven have a full-ass series called "crowder confronts" where he would do exactly what Ethan did here, except he would go to people's workplaces?
yeah, that series was honestly disgusting. As "opposition research" I spent about two months watching Crowder almost every day (yeah, I know), and those segments always bothered me more than anything else he did. Just gross.
Ethan going “Stephen! Show yourself you coward! Stop showing your fuckin leprechaun cohost and show yourself.” Is fucking madness and the funniest part about this IMO.
I love that by defending Crowder, his fans are basically admitting that a 50-year old Jewish man can absolutely destroy a bigger man with emotionally-supportive gun holsters in a political debate.
This furthered proved Crowder is not confident about his political positions. When he is not in a controlled environment where he can manipulate and dictate the conversation you see how unaware and cowardly he is.
I find it pretty funny considering how ballsy he is to show up to random colleges and make himself a clown publicly. I guess his love of flexing on college students outweighs is cowardly fear of actually having his views put in question.
Did you see that one college kid that Destiny reacted to debating him? Crowder got so ass pained the only thing he could do was cry the kid called him retarded after losing every argument.
What is it with right wingers always saying “the left won’t debate me” but then bitching out of debates with real, experienced left leaning voices. For example, Candace Owens backed out from debating Kyle Kulinski at Politicon, Jordan Peterson refused to debate Richard Wolff, and of course Steven ducked Sam for a year and a half after getting cold feet.
@Lovro Harmic tbh I don't see anything wrong with what Ethan did. Crowder's entire thing is debating people. The whole "change my mind" gimmick is a big thing he does, but the catch is that he typically aims down. He likes to ambush people on the street, or in this case, a random podcast host who isn't involved with politics. If Steven's ideas are viable and able to be defended, it shouldn't matter who he is debating against, and I think that was the point here. He has no idea what he's talking about so his opinions are trash, therefore he has no idea how to actually argue them and trying to do so *legitimately* would reveal the game. I don't think Ethan was ever interested in hosting any sort of debate with Crowder; I think this was legitimately just to see what he would do when put up against someone who actually knew what they were doing.
I'm not familiar with those cases (except that I don't respect Candace as a political pundit). But can someone explain to me why the hell would Crowder give Seder the time of day? Just... WHY? Seder is a complete joke. You guys do not look good siding with Sam. Pretty much anyone else is much more respectable. Kulinsky, Pakman, Destiny, Vaush, etc.
@Lovro Harmic My dude, Ethan LITERALLY admits he's not into politics and isn't very smart, why da fuk would Crowder ever want to debate him and then run away like a little bitch from someone who's actually experienced?
Steven Crowder: “Very strange of you to end your show early last week.” Also Steven “I like to go on college campuses and debate students.” Crowder: “The reason I didn’t want to debate is because my audience would say “Sam who??””
Like where's the line? Ethan has 2 million fewer subs than Crowder, yet Crowder was okay debating him. MR still has over a million subs, which isn't nothing. Crowder actually challenged Kyle Kulinski to a debate when he only had around ~200k subs. To say nothing of the fact that Crowder built his career on ambush debate tactics. Rationalizing this is all meaningless anyway since Crowder admitted to monitoring the MR streams.
@@darkcrystalmagik3369 Pretty sure he did but I'm not sure why. Don't follow Kyle that much, was just aware of the Twitter drama around it at the time.
Wow, this is totally a “Platos Allegory of the Cave” moment for me. Honestly, watching this, opened my eyes to the world. I thought I was rational for watching conservative media, and just ate it up without a second thought, all the while believing I was knowledgeable in the political sphere. But holy shit, fuck conservatives like Steven Crowder, Michael Knowles, etc. I feel like I’ve been slipping away from the conservative ideology for a while know, but this is my political “Watergate”. Thanks to the likes of Vaush, H.BomberGuy, Knowing Better, and Contra Points for giving me the other perspective, and challenging my own. In essence, educating me. It’s like they say with cults- “You only know it’s a cult of your viewing it from the outside”. I feel like an absolute piece of shit for the awful takes I’ve had. But hey, I feel a lot less stressed about America, but also more so. - The climates dying, for real - The Pandemic is serious, for real - Biden is president, for real - Socialism and Progressive ideas aren’t bad, actually - Government welfare programs aren’t unnecessary, oppressive, or encouraging lazy behavior, actually - Oh yeah, and femboys shouldn’t be fetishized. A relevant political issue, I swear Didn’t realize I was in the far right or if it even existed until just recently. Being part of the youth, as vulnerable as the demographic is, I was roped into conservative ideology, because of a shit ton of confirmation bias. I’d your reading this, thanks for reading :)
I can add to that list. Off the top of my head: These guys are a part of the very loose H.BomberGuy and Knowing Better group. They comment on each other's videos anyway: Some More News: If you ever read Cracked back in the day, you might like to see what some of them are doing now. They are doing the news! But only some of it. It's performative like crowder, but ... actually, it's more like an ... angrier Jon Stewart (Jon is getting back into the game btw, his new show is: The Problem with Jon Stewart). Folding Ideas: He does a lot of stuff about movies, but he does politics too. "That Time Geocentrists Tricked A Bunch of Physicists" and "In Search Of A Flat Earth" are good, well researched documentary type videos. Philosophy Tube: I found his older videos and I liked what I saw. "Bannon | Philosophy Tube" is fantastic. "Antisemitism: An Analysis | Philosophy Tube" made me understand WHY all the jew hate from the fascist types. "Why We Build the Wall (COVER)" is a banger. And then he transitioned into a she. I don't know any trans people IRL, this channel made "trans people" more real to me. Less abstract. And: timbah on toast: smaller channel, but Sam Seder mentioned them on a show once, and I looked them up. His Tim Pool videos are pretty good, his Project Veritas videos are good political history content. Carlos Maza: He's the VOX guy who crowder made the "fig" shirts about. He's gone off to do his own youtube channel. If you want the deep stuff, his "How To Be Hopeless" video was very helpful to me. "On this earth there are pestilences and there are victims, and it's up to us, so far as possible, not to join forces with the pestilences. That may sound simple to the point of childishness; I can't judge if it's simple, but I know it's true." - Albert Camus, The Plague There's nothing wrong with a "measure twice, cut once" conservative. You can have a conservative temperament AND take notice of the weather. Honestly, the progressive Left can use some conservative temperaments to balance us out.
Glad you stopped mindlessly watching the alt-right turds. You just gotta keep reminding yourself, “If literal Nazis are fans of this guy, then maybe I should question whether or not I should be buying into it.” You should also check out that massive article that came out a few years ago that exposed Breitbart as a huge scheme to launder white nationalism talking points of their overt racism and platform them as part of the mainstream debate. Scary stuff.
@@aristizle8797I just got into Folding Ideas. His stuff is densely packed, but if you can figure out what the hell he’s taking about, it’s REALLY good. Makes me feel dumb when I can’t follow along though. That dude’s crazy smart.
@@miink1y yea he's literally a failed comedian, the thing he is accusing of Sam being here. Just like Ben Shapiro is a failed screenwriter. These guys are all bitter because they weren't good enough to break into their dream careers, and blame "The Left" for their lack of talent.
Crowder could have weaseled out of this situation if he just left immediately or manned-up, yet he _STILL_ somehow managed to pick the absolute worst option: throwing a temper tantrum in front of millions of people.
This was exactly my thought, if Crowder had been like "This is not what we agreed to do Ethan. why do you bring Sam Seder on? I thought this was between us" and dealt with it in a calm manner he could actually have left the call without dealing with Sam and still kept some face, instead he throws a temper tantrum....
Bruh crowder had me brainwashed someone remove him from the internet. For the last few years I was all crowder Shapiro tim pool and I realized they dont debate. I got into debates from religion which caused me to leave religion. I noticed the conversations on both sides make points and i noticed i only knee one pov of politics. as soon as i redefined socialism and got informed on hot controversial topics from a leftist view I have abandoned all right wing media. It turned me into a racist transphobia idiot excuse this format In a rushhhh
Apt comparison. Rubin also runs away because when I commented on his channel after Larry died after getting COVID that I thought his rhetoric on the pandemic was harmful, they deleted it so goddamn fast.
I used to think Crowder had guts and that he knew what he was talking about, back when he was the underdog. Now, the veil is uncovered and I see a manipulative, bully who is afraid to be wrong.
@@HappyPsychoBunny3 I second this question. Most of the sane, politically savvy people I know have always been annoyed by Steven Crowder because the things that grate on people now and "cross the line" are the same things he's been doing for years. The casual misogyny, the racism, the insensitivity to the suffering of other human beings (recall his George Floyd stunt), the elitism... it's been there since the beginning. Whatever "good" points he may have made in the beginning of his media career, whatever status quo he was challenging back then was easily overshadowed by his less than stellar qualities. To me, at least. So yeah, the question remains: when did you see the millionaire son of a greater media multi-millionaire as the underdog? And if he was the underdog, who was the, uh... overdog he was fighting?
I love that holster-wearing, "I'm a tough guy" Crowder is pants-shittingly terrified of Seder who has a stutter and generally keeps a calm demeanor when debating. Also love that the right considers it "bullying" when you fact check them and don't let them talk over you.
I just don't understand why Crowder won't debate him. He's obviously afraid that he will lose and his grift will be exposed; but, what happened here is like, objectively worse than that lol. Like Sam said, he formally debated Kirk (and won), but clearly Kirk still has plenty of fame and money, you know? Also, what happened last night will generate infinitely more memes and ridicule, than if he just formally debated Sam at some stuffy boring political convention. Trust me, millions and millions of more people watch Ethan, Steven, and Sam informally, than they would tune into a formal political debate at some convention center.
@@RemixedVoice that’s why you can tell that this was a panicked decision wrought out of true fear and cowardice. A rational mind would think “Well, this sucks, but I’m stuck and I’ll claim I was railroaded to my audience after” But Crowder wasn’t thinking rationally. He was a scared little bully in a playground who was picking on a little kid and got confronted by that kid’s older brother. His flight response kicked in and he needed to do anything he could to get out of that situation.
The fact that Crowder tried to call Sam out for not being funny whilst also being a failed comedian was unironically the hardest I've laughed at anything Crowder has ever said.
Sam barely has a stutter Crowder on the other hand: “You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question?” “Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Whoaoaoaoaoh! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam!”
This is really Daddy Darrin's fault. He worked so hard protecting Steven from Sam that Sam became a boogeyman in Steven's head. So when they finally met, Steven choked.
Okay here’s one thing I don’t get: why is Crowder afraid to debate Seder specifically. He seems totally normal to me, doesn’t have this far-reaching reputation of owning the conservatives, so why is Crowder so pressed about avoiding him at all costs? Oh well, either way it’s incredibly entertaining to watch.
Sam doesnt have the reputation yea but watch some of his shows he did this shit when crowder was still in his managers balls. There is no way someone without an argument, education or real agenda besides being racist can get out of a conversation with Sam good looking. Watched only a few myself and noticed they are all similar because Sam has his talking points polished and people just crumble the same ways over and over again. :D
Guys just to make it clear, if Vaush did what Crowder did in that debate. Run away pathetically after insulting the person to their face, even if it was Destiny or a nazi, we would criticize/give him hell for that. Right? Like I know Vaush hasn’t given use any reason to think he would do that, but we hold him to some standards don’t we? Idk I’m just asking because what I have seen is many Crowder fans defend him despite running away, and I’m disappointed that they don’t hold him to a good standard despite gaining fame by shows like Change my mind.
@@BlakesGamez instead of cold feet crowder, who literally has a segment where he ambushes people? Remember the trans man he showed up to the work of? Yeah....you should check what cold feet crowder has done before saying that.
Your glasses are stupid and you have 'velveteen rabbit eyes' - what the hell does that mean lol...other than something probably incredibly crass and possibly anti-semitic.
@@ryanpierce3986 It is super old, for sure, it just also happens to still be actively still in use in antisemitic circles. Like do you seriously expect me to believe that Steven Crowder suddenly decided to reference "velveteen rabbit eyes" out of nowhere? I mean if we are going to talk about something being super old, the book that popularized velveteen rabbits was from *1922.* It is also important to note that his eyes do not actually resemble buttons in any way. That is a super specific insult to randomly throw out. So specifically racist. And it absolutely is not a regularly used insult in *any* context aside from antisemitism, so it is not something people just happen to say.
0:00 Intro
2:00 Going Over Crowder’s History
22:20 H3H3 vs Crowder Debate
24:30 SAM SHOWS UP!
33:00 Steve’s Dad is Going to be Mad
37:28 Post “Debate” Recap
1:03:15 Crowder Calls In A Favor
1:22:20 Wrapping Up
Big PP from tempest
Even if you don't follow youtubers, politics, social media or any online drama - this whole thing by itself, without any context - is terribly hilarious :'D
They need to hire dedicated timestampers on YT.
@@joshuaDstarks The description has time stamps and the video has chapters too
25:33 where coward admits he was following Sam’s show schedule 😆
If Steven Crowder is so anti-socialism, why does he keep getting publicly owned?
only the ninth place I've seen that today, but never gets old lol. Great line ;)
This comment is wildly underappreciated. You, my dude, getthe gold medal from me. 👍😂😎
At least mention you appropriated this..
The debate was never with Sam. You can’t get owned if the conversation/debate was never with said crasher. Stop making up lies that bring you comfort.
@@Fatdecember it was when Sam showed up. Don't you believe in the marketplace of ideas? Or just sucking off your man?
The "stop showing your little leprechaun co-host" line fucking killed me
All his fucking sideshow gremlins are hilarious; too bad we didn't get to see their reactions during this.
I almost passed out when he said that :D
Especially when you consider that "co-host" is his producer Father.
Bruh, even the Leprechaun guy looked nervous and hes always looks stoned and out of it.
That was the only part that wasn't OK or funny at all, actually. Be better.
"you're a small channel so i don't have to debate you"
- man who has an entire series dedicated to debating random passersby on the street
The irony is that in Crowder making so much noise about Seder, a lot more people have now heard of him.
The funny thing is I’ve heard of Sam before, but not h3 until this happened
Still don’t know who Seder is and really don’t care about him. Crowder was in the right for not entertaining this sham of a “debate”
@@teshkit456 still makes him an even harder coward, if he’s so good at owning the left he should’ve taken care of the debate easily
@@infinkeo_archived That dudes coping in EVERY comment thread..
Yah it is a sham.
I mean why won't Crowder just grow a pair and debate Seder? He went running with his tail between his legs before we could get a debate! ;)
Sam: How did you know I ended my show early?
Steven: Ya Dumb and your staff hates you!
This almost transcends the "you're fat" moment with Vaush.
crowder the coward is five years old without that dialogue tree to fall back on
steven crowder is such a woman
@@benshapiro9241 I bet 100 bucks your Mum doesn’t need the gun holsters either!
@@reform-revolution Crowder the type to button mash Heavy Rain and only uses sarcastic in Fallout 4.
@@nickv1212 Press X to JASON
crowder : YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Crowder: I’ve never met more of a woman!
Crowders wife: 😐😐😐😐😐
JLP debate tactics
@Lucien Hicks homophobic jokes ok
I'm sure she's use to this kind shit lol. Poor, poor woman 😄.
@@4doorsmoreguns193 ?
@@4doorsmoreguns193 it's not homophobia to say a woman is probably sick of picking up after her very likely deeeeeply closeted yet homophobic spouse. Poor gal probably doesn't get any action from him as a result, ya know?
Ethan’s greatest ability is that everyone thinks he’s an idiot. Ethan is actually an incredible interviewer, he’s not scared to ask any question he wants and people generally walk right into his trap because they don’t think he’s capable.
yeah, I've especially noticed that in his debates with hasan, bro may only really have the knowledge base of the average person when it comes to politics , but he's really smart and doesn't let people get in his head
@zewps9502
Except Bill Burr😆😆
And maybe Jay Shetty
"I'm Crowder, and the Left won't debate me. What? Sam Seder is on the line?"
"Tell him I changed my mind."
😆
@@EviLLivEClan H3 was still there ready to debate. Coward ran because H3 called in backup.
@@EviLLivEClan if his beliefs and principles are solid and well-founded, why does it matter who challenges them?
@@EviLLivEClan the point was that Crowded says the left won’t debate him and when someone on the left shows up to do so, he runs for the hills
Cold feet Crowder
Is this his life from now on? Sam Seder possibly lurking around every corner, disguised as a random college student. Just face the music, Steven.
It's basically going to be that Shia LaBeouf song from a few years back but with Sam Seder 😂
@@KarlSnarks It's the middle of the day and your phone is dead. You sit at your "Change My Mind" table, unable to check your notes. Suddenly, out of the corner of your eye you spot him -- _"Samuel Seder."_
@@sluttyMapleSyrup he's in the crowd about thirty feet back. He takes out his notes and then breaks into a sprint, HES GAINING ON YOU. SAMUEL SEDER.
The fact that Sam Seder looks like someone who can just be there on campus for his Masters or PhD (for a 50 year old man he looks like he is in his early to mid 30s) he could probably disguise and ambush debate Crowder lmao
@@angusmarch1066 Now it's dark and you seem to have lost him
. But you're hopelessly lost yourself. Stranded with Samuel. You creep silently through the underbrush. A-ha! In the distance. It's Pappa Crowder's cottage. There's a light on.
Hope!
You move stealthily toward it.
But your leg! Ah! It's caught in a bear trap!
What's really great is realizing that Ethan could have gotten the exact same response out of Crowder just by putting a still image of Sam up on his stream. His paranoia was off the charts.
Everyone going on to debate Steven Coward needs a clip of Sam saying, "Hi Steve! Don't run away! Let's talk!" And play that when the debate starts.
He literally said Ethan was a layup, then refused to debate someone who comments on politics for a living. How does his fans not see that as a weak move.
How can you sycophants not realize how weak a move it is to say you’ll debate someone on an issue and then bring in some random no body to talk about a different issue, instead.
@@teshkit456 a nonody that crowder knew of and feared enough to have people monitering his stream to avoid him. H3H3 wasn't a badass for bringing in sam, but crowder was a bitch that ran from a real debate with his tail tucked between his legs.
@@teshkit456 how is someone with a million subscribers a nobody? Aren’t the college kids he debates are nobodies?
@@teshkit456 Cope
@@teshkit456 cmon slugger, you're smarter than this cmonnnnnn
Crowder's initial, instant reaction was the genuine one.
"Oh no, it's Sam Seder! What a fucking nightmare!" - Crowder, in an unironic state of panic. QED
funny thing is, that is a german running gag in regards to Andreas Scheuer (a politician) and Newton, ever since the Anstalt, a great cabaret show, has made Newton be the voice of reason and science to school Scheuer for his idiocy
"Not the Newton" except in German
Crowder literally has videos of him confronting people who he spars with online without their knowledge that he's going to show up. For him to cry foul here is beyond pathetic.
Lol'd at his chuds trying to teach everyone the cowardice of ambushing.
I agree plus chris hedges is great
None of their criticisms add up. They claim to be upholders of open debate and free dialogue, yet flee in terror when a sincere opportunity presents itself. They claim ignorance of Sam, yet knew everything about him, provided stats, information about his career choices. They claim to be macho and stoic, yet are the most snowflakey and triggered of all. They just abound with hypocrisy and grift. But if you think about it they must hate themselves. They are eminently hateable. It would make sense.
Is there a link to this I want to see this so bad
@Kristin Smith Maybe Crowder should of brought up those "facts" instead of shouting over Sam and then cutting the call?
Crowder: "I won't debate Seder, he's irrelevant and beneath me!"...makes a career out of debating random college students.
Yeah, he does this with the college kids too. Any time one of those kids are totally destroying him, he feigns offence at the smallest comment in order to make them leave. It's fucking embarrassing to watch!
College students aren't debating him though and hijacking his show just to try and boost their profile.
That's the glaring difference.
@@dlg78 That has nothing to do with what I said. My point is Crowder claims he won't debate Seder because he's irrelevant and not big enough, yet he'll still debate random college students, so he's obviously being dishonest. Do you disagree with that? Yes or no? try to answer without pivoting. Oh and why would Seder need to "boost" his profile? You realize he's one of the biggest lefties on UA-cam, right? Oh and that thing you're accusing Seder of doing (hijacking his show), Crowder did the same thing to Cenk at a conference, only there he didn't make actual arguments, he just did a really bad, cringey impersonation (probably because he knew he would get wrecked in an actual debate)
@@dlg78 Ethan offered the airtime to Sam.
@@luismurillo5855 they actually aren’t the same thing at all. ‘Change My Mind’ isn’t two people knowingly preparing for a debate on a particular subject, this was! Ethan was extremely disingenuous here and just a flat out lier as HE agreed to debate himself which he didn’t at all so I don’t know why it’s even being called a debate. This is just typical lefties tactics as you aren’t talking about what Ethan did. Maybe watch the entire unedited video and that may change your mind (no pun intended 😂)
I'm contracturally obligated to bring up that Steven Crowder was called not a comedian by Amy Schumer (Amy *fucking* Schumer), and it *hurt* him
he's so fragile lol
"Leftists are so sensitive"
@@davitdavid7165 I think part of it is their idea of sensitivity is "freaking out" cause most of these gen ys and zs (me included) got roped in because of the cringe comps, among other things.
They may not see being pensive and vengeful as sensitive, when in reality it's the most (to borrow a phrase from them) """""beta""""" thing you could do.
@@gabrielrobinson1279 BETA
@@gabrielrobinson1279 Baaaaaaaaaay-daaaaaaaaaa
(I love black people)
those people who's calling ethan a coward just don't get it, he lives for drama like this, he doesn't want to debate, crowder got played
Right ?? How many times does Ethan have to say he’s not a debater .. how can you defend crowder after this . He only wants to debate people that aren’t actual debators. He’s wearing a “ Fight like Hell” shirt and can’t even show himself on screen when Sam shows up. You can’t write this stuff lol
crowder: "ETHAN IS A COWARD >:("
also crowder: cherrypicks unexperienced people and yet runs away when experienced people show up
@@worldview3182 Because like most predatory animals he wants an easy meal that won't challenge him much.
Ethan literally admits that the reason is that he is too stupid, that's not what a coward is.
Crowder on the other hand won't admit that he is too scared and instead searches for excuses, *that's* cowardice :)
@@6ftmouse349 Yea no shot I give that waste of space more engagement. Can go play in traffic for all I care.
"I've never met more of a woman"
So Crowder agrees that biological men can be women? I never knew he'd affirm transwomen just because of Sam Seder.
😂😂😂😂😂🤣😜😜😜🤣🤣😂😂
Fucking based Seder. On Chowder's show for 5 minutes and already got him to say trans rights.
i appreciate you trying to make a goody good progressive joke
but there's no such thing as a "biological man".. that's a transphobic term, because it implies you're "born" a gender, when society assigns it to you
@@toericabaker
It refers to biological sex.
@@thatlemonguy1107 same thing
“I am inevitable.”- Sam Seder LMAO
LOL 😂 Facts!!! 💯 Love it best comment I’ve seen all day 😂
"Do you see?"
Wait…Did Seder actually say that!!??
Think that's that a callback Tim Pool comparing him to Thanos? Because if so that's fuckin' legendary.
If only Sam could snap his fingers and make Steven Crowder disappear
Crowder and his sidekick literally filibustered the whole time. They were so afraid of Sam they talked hysterically non stop so Sam couldn’t be heard. Then accused HIM of “interrupting”
Ethan yelling “don’t bail you coward” as Crowder nervously laughs and says Sam has shark eyes is my favorite thing ever
Ethan just saying "i am dumb" is so good though. He understands what crowder is trying to do and is not blinded by his ego, which is why he double crosses him.
I'm glad someone acknowledged this as well
Gotta give him that one. He knows he would end up looking stupid on a real debate so he does exactly what Crowder fears he would do. Still a cowardly move to agree to a 1 on 1 and back out.
@@eclock87 We're testing ideologies against each other here, not measuring boxing skill.
@@eclock87 no one expects or wants Ethan to be a master debater on the issues lmao this was 100% a power move
@@xPooogle515 heh heh master bater
I was in the Marines for 6 years and I haven't seen ambush this sick ever.
😂😂😂😂😂
I think you wish you were in the Marines for 6 years
Of course you were.
Because people in the Marines go around telling everyone that they were in the Marines.😂
>mfw chowder simps immediately disrespect a veteran because you don't agree with them :')))
@@Fr0stbite1801 What if I told you I was a combat veteran myself
“No one on the left wants to debate” **someone on the left wants to debate
“NO NOT LIKE THAT”
Funny how Ethan is on the left and chickened out of debating him. Ethan knows he would have lost, so he backed out and brought someone else in. How pathetic can you be.
@@teshkit456 What’s cowardly is only wanting to debate people that have no experience debating and have no history of even talking about political subjects in a way that shows they would be able to engage in debate. If someone like the quartering asked vaush to debate, and then when vaush showed up he had like Jordan Peterson as his backup. I’d laugh cause like that’s silly but if vaush ran away and didn’t even attempt to talk to Peterson, he’d be just as much as a coward. Even though it’s not a great comparison because Peterson has a hundred times the audience of Sam Seder.
@@FortuitousOwl Ethan talks about politics plenty, that’s why the whole thing started because Ethan was talking about covid and it’s policies. He also agreed to debate Crowder so I’m not sure how cowardly it is to enter into a mutual agreement like that. But whatever, you’re too ingrained in your ideology to admit maybe crowder is in right, sometimes.
@@teshkit456 woooooosh
@@FortuitousOwl Oh no, I got r/whoooosh’d how will I ever recover for this nonargument???
Crowder wearing a shirt that says “fight like hell” really fighting like hell to get out of his worst nightmare.
This will never not be hilarious...plus the holsters 😂
Crowder: "Seder is still streaming, he isn't going to be there."
Seder: "I am three parallel universes ahead of you."
I like to think of Sam Seder as Freddy Kreuger that shows up in Crowders dreams lmao...
Theory... Sam Seder is actually a time traveller!! Present Sam didn't actually attend the debate!!!! TIME TRAVEL CONFIRMED 😊😊😊🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
checkers/4D chess
Checkmate Chowder
Idk, Crowder says Sam isnt funny but his Little League analogy was funnier than anything Crowder has said in his entire life and sam didnt even need to use a black-face-voice
Black face voice?? Which one is it you dummy, black face or black man voice?
@@christianbustillos4066 People that did minstrel shows also used ridiculous voices to depict black people. So it’s not that far fetched to say black face voice.
@@christianbustillos4066 It's actually accurate to call it a black face voice.
People doing minstrel shows don't actually sound like black people, believe it or not. They put on a tone to mock and degrade them, which is a caricature.
So yes. Crowder does a black face voice to make fun of POC.
@@christianbustillos4066 Looks like other people already answered your question. Specifically, I am referring to Crowders poor attempt at a joke recently -- the one suggesting Black farmers grow meth crops and such
@@christianbustillos4066 naah black face voice because that’s what it is.
He’s so flustered that he can’t even speak coherently. His point about Mike Tyson doesn’t make sense. Shouldn’t it be “I can call out Mike Tyson, that doesn’t mean he’s ducking me.”?
Love how, in that analogy, he is Mike Tyson
I almost felt like he was calling Sam Seder Mike Tyson in how he wouldn't even show his face on camera 😆
Similar to how he'd run away from Mike Tyson
You know Mike Tyson would go at him if he kept saying it and he would just run
@@johnbacile9495 "Ethan why'd you bring Mike Tyson to my studio? I thought you were a stand up guy"
Basically he changed the goal post
"Little Leprechaun co-host" - Genuinely the first time I've burst out laughing this year.
H3 is fucking hilarious when he says jokes like that
I wish Michael Brooks was alive to see this, he would be having a field day.
He's smiling down from Lefty Valhalla.
rest in peace, we all know how hard he would be laughing at this.
The blood-sports... They warm my heart.
No, he's laughing right now.
Isn’t that the truth 😕
THE WAY CROWDER'S VOICE CHANGED THE MOMENT ETHAN SAID HE CAME PREPARED, HE SOUNDED SO FUCKING NERVOUS LMAO
It's like he had an idea of what might happen and his ass clenched hard enough to shatter a Nokia 3310 phone
This wasn't a debate. This was a one-sided discord riot.
Crowder: I'm not ducking you, you're just beneath me. Sam who?
Also Crowder: I specifically based my schedule on your show to make sure I wouldn't run into you.
Sam: "why do you..."
Crowder: "Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam, can I answer your question, Sam Sam you're interrupting me, Sam Sam Sam just let me just answer your question!"
Classic deflection
Yes because what they do is ask a bunch of questions and then forget every single one they asked you. & they think they're actually beating you in a debate while all they're doing is giving a monologue. by asking questions with skewed statistics and false premises, then they actually think they proved you wrong by talking over you and not letting you respond. People like you guys here are with you hates a blabbermouth a racist and idiots H3 H3 projects. Dude we don't got to think about it let's just listen to the government about sticking sit in our a$$es
@@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461 bro nobody understands the point you're trying to make
@@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461
Did you have a stroke typing on that?
@@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461 bro what…?
Crowder: "you only have one million subs, why would I talk to you?"
Also Crowder: "hey there naive college students, want to change my mind on a certain political topic?"
and what's funny is that everyone including crowder's audience want him to debate sam seder.
He only debates people who are inexperienced or unprepared, preferably both.
If he’s only got a million subs and isn’t worth talking to then he should have an easy time right? It’s like a professional boxer refusing to fight someone because they haven’t had enough fights. He’s either a coward, a fraud or both.
I've never seen him debate anyone worth debating like ever. He dodges everytime he goes against someone that is smart or has media experience and now he finally got confronted and he fucking panicked.
@@blargh3428 conservatives only debate people on their payroll or inner circle, they also like to make propoganda bugging students to prove college is dumb.
They literally are unable to get confronted by their peers. Honesty and accountability hurt them
The thing with Sam's eyes, it's a Nazi tactic that Jews had black souless eyes.
It's so pathetic. Sam is so handsome and Crowder looks like a promising experiment on a side of pork
Yessir - even the euphemism used to hide this antisemitic stereotype (the Velveteen rabbit) is dehumanizing, reducing Jews to inanimate stuffed toys yearning to be alive.
Strangely, I hear RWNJs try and excuse this bigoted means of physically slandering an entire branch of humanity all the time, usually with stuff like "It's not antisemitic, it's just the truth - people who wear glasses all the time tend to have small-looking eyes!" Which isn't true, of course - if it was, people like Steven would be taunting every person they see with glasses.
If Steven had been feeling especially edgy, he'd have used the word "beady" in his description of Sam's eyes - that word walks right up to the line of acceptability. Not technically racist, but we know when it's being abused...
The only time Crowder is worth paying attention to is when he's crying or getting punched. Lol
I reported crowder over a year ago for wearing that socialism is for figs with a pistol on the table, said he was promoting terrorism against gay people. I'm taking credit for getting the ball rolling and banning his dumb ass.
Crowder is always crying because he and all Conservatives must cry victimhood to gain any support.
Coldfeet Crowder in drag: “You wouldn’t hit a woman, would you Sam?”
Stolen but still funny.
"The hammer of justice is unisex, ma'am"
Hell yeah, BatB Batman.
@@rawalshadab3812 batman!!!!!
@@coolerrocket Damn right
People on the right: “leftists won’t debate us”
*Sam seder enters the chat*
the right: “you don’t have enough followers”
that is a weak argument anyway. followers is irrelevant.
he weiseld his way uninvited. that was reason enough to cut it.
Now they’re saying Sam just isn’t worth the time cuz he’s a liar.
Ok then. Expose his lies to the world and flex that 5head brain. Oh? Not worth your time?
Ok keep changing college diapers the
Also, Stevie still has unfinished business with Potholer54. Where's the debate?
@@lustrazor44 he dosnt like sam specifically.
from what ive learned yesterday, almost nobody likes him. if hes being a pice of shit and nobody want to talk to him that is his fault.
ethen said stupid shit, and crowder offered him to stand behind his words and clarify. out of the blue lie to crowder and expect him to just go along id disingenuous. and stupid.
@@FiryaFYI if you don't like someone you should be more motivated to humiliate them in the marketplace of ideas. You don't run away from things you hate, you run away from things you fear. Sam has openly said he doesn't like crowder yet he doesn't run away from talking to him, or any of the other right wingers who don't like him.
"I won't debate you because you don't have enough followers". Wrong. Guy literally goes out and debates random college freshmen.
That's why Crowder spends so much time repeating over and over that Prove Me Wrong is a "conversation" not a "debate." It's easy to miss, but once you look for it you notice that Crowder spends a lot of time weaseling out of any potential failures he might have by trying to define himself out of losing.
"I didn't lose because it wasn't a debate."
"He attacked my immutable characteristics, so I have free reign to be ableist in response."
He prepares by laying down a field of false, or irrelevant premises so that his little army of defender bots can latch on to some fallacy or another in the comments. Laying out troll food in advance so they can feed themselves right from the start.
He can just run in circles, arguing semantics, without ever addressing the actual topic.
If only Michael Brooks could have seen this. I can imagine him laughing so hard at this. In my mind, his laughter is echoing over the whole thing.
It would be an existential cackle to breach the heavens
Miss the guy. Michael Brooks is one of the reasons I keep listening to a lot of leftist materials.
Dude..... dont make me cry again...
"he has a team? He can bring the team!"
Sam is such a fucking Savage.
One of my favorite lines
Are you one of the 3,000 people who still watch his videos?
@@occamsblunderbuss Are you still coping?
@@occamsblunderbuss Man you really need a lot of copium don't you?
@@occamsblunderbuss Is crowder paying his lackies? I am not dogpiling, because I would love to make some more money on the side
Ethan: I'm an idiot, so here's someone smarter
Stephen and Dave: What, are you too stupid to debate us?
Ethan: Yes. So debate Sam, he's actually informed.
Stephen: *malds infinitely*
@Gobzo Raon for orchestrating a goof on crowder? how embarrassing
@Gobzo Raon you are such a nerd lmao
@@Acesahn why were you “always doing” something without even knowing if you were correct about it
@Gobzo Raon It's called being humble and being open about your flaws. It's genuinely a commendable trait that more public figures need to have.
@@Acesahn than you must think crowder is ten times more cowardly needing to be tricked in order to debate an actual debater.
"They were looking for Trojan Hippos but didn't keep their eyes out for the horse."
That's a great quote and i'm gonna be using that. That's just gold right there.
This moment in history put him in the hospital and his wife started the divorce paperwork! Sam is a legend
The legend of Sam Seder will be told throughout the ages.
It’s been great re-experiencing this amazing moment. It was so satisfying to see him cower.
Based epic meal time
Vaush-EMT crossover episode when?
how tf does Vaush have so many great content creators that watch his content? It shouldn't, but always does blow my mind.
based epic meal time
Based EMT
“My audience would ask Sam who?”
Not after this they won’t
sam seder's presence is enough to explode their conservative heads like in The Boys
@Ben Woodcock I mean, that kinda IS what debate is for, actually. Debate is actually a pretty inefficient way of arriving at truth, it's mostly just a posturing competition where you try to make yourself seem smart and strong and the other person weak and dumb. Why do you think Crowder prefers debating random college students rather than people who want to debate him and are actually prepared to?
So by that logic, nobody should debate anybody with less popularity than them? Come on dude, that’s pretty weak.
@Ben Woodcock wait are you responding to me? In that case that’s dumb as fuck. Not only does crowder only debate college kids, but he DOESNT call out Seder for supposedly wanting to increase his stock because he’s IGNORED Sam until now. Can you imagine a left wing figure using an excuse like that to debate someone on the right? We all know you’d be changing your tune dude
@Ben Woodcock >obviously to increase his own stock
cope. you have no basis for this claim, but only use it to justify crowder's blatant cowardice.
firstly, seder has 1 million subs, he is not in some desperate need for clout.
secondly, he was also almost exclusively willing to talk about actual issues while crowder only attacked and belittled him. actually debating him would be much less "rewarding" for seder clout-wise but instead we got this clown show where crowder embarrassed himself and the whole thing has gotten way more attention than otherwise. you have to inhale a serious amount of copium to think crowder actually cared about seder gaining popularity.
Crowder's dad threw away his Father's Day present after this "debate"
"Hiding behind the glasses" when just minutes before, Crowder frantically switched to another camera so he couldn't be seen
Saw a great line somewhere "Crowder claims to be against communism, but just got publicly owned".
Common joke for every conservative who loses a debate
@Colby fixed it
Awesome.
@Colby no, it's loses.
😂😂😂😂😂😁😜😜
I like to imagine that Steven was nervous when Ethan said he was prepared, not because he was expecting Sam, but because he fears debating somebody who is prepared.
Lol, the voice change was a God tier moment. I haven't heard someone sound that suddenly nervous since 8th grade listening to people give class presentations!
@@Axxilles "Oh this is a NIGHTMARE"
@@Axxilles 🤣 holy shit, I bet Steven has had that dream before
@@SeanLaMontagne What? A dream where is time for his presentation but he hasn't prepared, is naked, and Sam Seder is the teacher?
😂😂😂
Yes, he said it himself. He said he was expecting "a fan of Seder" and that alone was freaking him out.
Anyone who uses their massive platform as an excuse not to debate someone is immediately barred from ever complaining about big tech censorship ever again
Loving the pro Crowder boys attempting to defend their crush this comment section. Keep flailing lads.
The cope is strong with this one
Just admit that your so blinded by your ideology, that you can’t admit when some Jew on your side did something dishonest.
@@teshkit456 The way you said “Jew” was fairly aggressive my guy…
@@teshkit456 crowder, is that you?
@@teshkit456 least antiemetic crowder fan
The absolute terror on Crowder’s face when he says “Oh no! Sam Seder!” is just *chef’s kiss*
I love his freudian slip "what a nightmare!" Yes, Steven, this is a nightmare for you. Retreat, retreat. ;-)
Imagine Sam showing to a "Change My Mind" event disguised with a hat and covid mask. When standing face to face with Crowder Sam rips the hat and mask off with a big grin plastered on his face as Crowder proceeds to turn and run in horror ala. the teens from the Friday the 13th movies when Jason Voorhees shambles into their camp.
Sad thing is Sam Seder isn’t even smart, crowder is just that bad. Sam Seder, David pakman, vaush and tyt are a bunch of ideologist with no action. Especially Sam Seder, he wishes he was Rachel Maddie so bad
@@agentandersonwick8796 wait their job is meant to inform others.... Of course they aren't going to instate action like a senate person because that's meant for politicians who can actually uphold leadership.
It's like saying a teacher who uses sources to teach others how to start a business is a fraud just because they haven't started a business. Simply informing others isn't a job to be looked down upon
@@dream-lh4pc lol Sam Seder informs others of it not being the right time for Medicare for all and outright lies about losing the speakership of the house to a Republican. If that idiot would have been around for the women’s suffrage movement, women would still have no rights till this day. Women’s rights was dismissed time and time again. A bill important bill won’t be approved first try. That’s what Sam doesn’t understand. He’s a fool who rather do nothing because of personalities he doesn’t like. Dudes a neoliberal
Coward was so unhinged in this. He was literary holding back tears and just screaming like a toddler. The Co-host running in to take the camera off Steven was so surreal I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
he was shitting his pants lmao
Piss poor damage control in real time.
Might have actually been shaking or having a panic attack. Horribly insecure individual.
Watched it on stream last night and thought I was having a fever dream. Just about fell on the floor when the co host scurries to fix the mic and put headphones on
Cowar wit Crowder
"Stop showing your little leprechaun co-host"
I LAUGHED SO HARD HОLY SHIТ THIS IS AMAZING
Steven's nerves as soon as Ethan says he's prepared are fucking hilarious, he turns into an anxious schoolkid INSTANTLY
you can feel it in his voice, he gets so nervous
when will conservatives realize that we KNOW ethan did some sneaking around to pull this off. crowder is an awful person and i couldn’t care less that ethan was being “dishonorable” or whatever. i don’t give a shit about a man who calls gay men pedophiles and has made so many racist caricatures on his show. he had it coming, plus it was funny as hell and i loved it lol
Exactly, it’s also really weird how they are pretending that Ethan is some kind of leftist-debate icon? Like what? Not one person cares that he didn’t actually debate Crowder. Anyone with half a brain should have realized that he was only there for the memes.
I do enjoy watching Crowder fans cry though.
I love how Crowder is constantly called out as a coward and he has not retort for it. I wonder if any of his viewers saw this and had second thoughts about the kind of man he is. He was laughing over Sam the whole time, nothing funny was even said he just wanted to not let him be heard.
One need not fight honorably with someone who has none.
@Kal Klenkem When dealing with someone who has no honesty or honor, you need not extend it to them. Crowder's a good example of an honorless dog.
@Kal Klenkem Mate you just made that account to comment you dont like crowder? Main acc probably youtube member from crowder haha
I love that Crowder just starts shouting when Sam comes on. Sam's just taking it all in, what a legend.
Lol, yeah Sam's used to to it, so he doesn't lose his chill that easily. Watch any of the debates he's done with libertarians in the past and just marvel at how they become unglued as Sam just sits there and debunks their points and just stays supernaturally calm.
@@VMonkies its a bloody superpower Im telling you
@@plaguerat5911 lol yeah it is, I don't think I'd be as calm and collected if I were in his shoes.
It just make him stronger, all the squirming. He relishes in it.
@@VMonkies Honestly Vaush could learn more from the way Sam and Pakman talk to people. That cold and calm detachment they have makes them look real good in debate especially when the opponent is being offensive. It works especially against offensive people because their whole schtick is making you mad and it makes the dude look like a child when it doesn't work.
The funniest part about this is that there is pretty much not a single outcome of this situation that looks worse if you’re Steven Crowder. All Crowder had to do was peddle some nonsense for an hour and called it a debate. He would’ve gotten owned a few times, but in the end he probably could’ve postered about it to his audience and gotten away with it.
he even had the perfect spin for afterwards, saying that he was not prepared he could avoid fallout for failing with his fans and still benefit
"1/50th the size!"
Conservatives not well known for their math skills.
well.. you are right, he was wrong.
Sam gets 7k views per vid. Crowder gets 1.2. you are correct, steven was wrong. its more like 171 times bigger.
@@FiryaFYI steven crowder has a total of 1.36 billion views on his channel. the majority report has a total of 474 million views. that means steven crowder is a little under 3 times bigger, not 50 times and certainly not 171 times.
@@jeffscave7481
You know what? i just checked the number. and something doesn't add up.
in the last month on the actual yt channel of Crowder there is about mill+ views
Seder gets on average 15k views.
similar channels with 1 mill gets about 150-300K views per vid.
so either seder does some foul play to pump numbers, or its the same 20K people from his mill subs who watch his content.
either way, that shows sam has much to gain from Crowder.
All in all, that is irrelevant. Steven made it clear he doesn't like sam. that is enough reason for him not to feature sam on his channel. Steven doesn't owe sam anything
@@FiryaFYI to be fair, the majority report has over 17000 videos, and not all of them even include sam seder. steven crowder is obviously more popular than sam by a long shot. still, i think his excuse that sam is a smaller channel alone shouldn't affect his willingness to debate him.
but as you said, crowder doesn't owe anyone anything, and as long as he's scared of sam we probably won't get to see the two in a reasonable discussion.
@@jeffscave7481
you confuse avoiding with fearing. unless you will admit your bias, you are mistaken.
for all we know he dosnt like the guy or want anything to do with him.
if someone i despise would do a trick to meet me when im trying to avoid then. they may get decked straight up.
imagine setting up a date with this cute girl, and she stooding you up only to send one of her ugly friend. that would piss you off i guarantee it.
"My audience is 50 times bigger" starting to think Chowder is incapable of doing basic math
1 million is 50 times smaller than 5.5 million in Chowderworld.
He literally kept saying a 40th of the audience.......divide your 5m subs by 40 and then tell me what the number of subs your req is steven lmsao
I think Crowder was more referring to the amount of views, not subscribers. Subscriber count is a really poor metric of weighing a channels popularity.
If you look at Seders channel, he has several times the amount of uploads, with relatively few views. In fact, the average view count on seders videos is like 3-10k.
Now if you look at crowders channel, his videos have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views. And with far fewer uploads.
Based on that, yes I would say Crowders channel is definitely far more popular.
Sam gets 7k views per vid. Crwoder gets 1.2. you are correct, steven was wrong. its more like 171 times bigger.
@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny keep inhaling that copium lmao. Also it's completely irrelevant. Audience size has nothing to do with intelligence and merit. That's something a kid in middle school would say. You Chowderheads are endlessly embarrassing.
didn't Steven have a full-ass series called "crowder confronts" where he would do exactly what Ethan did here, except he would go to people's workplaces?
Lol those two things are nothing alike...
You're right, what Crowder was doing is way worse.
Coward is basically a hypocrite
@@stevemasterson7776 Oh God, the contagious copium is SO STRONG in your post! I need a fucking DOCTOR!
yeah, that series was honestly disgusting. As "opposition research" I spent about two months watching Crowder almost every day (yeah, I know), and those segments always bothered me more than anything else he did. Just gross.
That "OK" Crowder says after Ethan says "I prepared" is an absolute chef's kiss. Beautiful. That is the moment his heart sunk into his feet.
Ethan going “Stephen! Show yourself you coward! Stop showing your fuckin leprechaun cohost and show yourself.” Is fucking madness and the funniest part about this IMO.
Thats my favorite part 😂
I love that by defending Crowder, his fans are basically admitting that a 50-year old Jewish man can absolutely destroy a bigger man with emotionally-supportive gun holsters in a political debate.
Lol emotional support gun holsters.
Not even the debate itself.
Destroying the guy by j u s t showing up for one.
Damn, he's 50? He looks 30
@@prajwaljayaraj5887 Yeah, when I learned he was 50 I was shocked. Like Jesus Christ he looks so young. He looks younger than my 30 y/o brother.
He's like 35 guys. A guy has some grey hairs and everybody thinks he's a dinosaur
This furthered proved Crowder is not confident about his political positions. When he is not in a controlled environment where he can manipulate and dictate the conversation you see how unaware and cowardly he is.
his "political position" is payed for, like shapiro
I find it pretty funny considering how ballsy he is to show up to random colleges and make himself a clown publicly. I guess his love of flexing on college students outweighs is cowardly fear of actually having his views put in question.
@@stephenhartley2853 Shapiro as crappy as he is a least believes in something. Crowder is just a drone being controlled by his daddy.
Yep, he wouldn't even engage in a debate about pot with a friend on Joe Rogans podcast.
Did you see that one college kid that Destiny reacted to debating him? Crowder got so ass pained the only thing he could do was cry the kid called him retarded after losing every argument.
He's so terrified to debate him who is beneath him but stalks his show! Lol
This tastes even sweeter after the divorce
And ironically Ethan's not a bad debater either lol
Crowder: You can’t defeat me
Ethan: I know but he can…
*Shocked Randy Orton face meme*
What is it with right wingers always saying “the left won’t debate me” but then bitching out of debates with real, experienced left leaning voices. For example, Candace Owens backed out from debating Kyle Kulinski at Politicon, Jordan Peterson refused to debate Richard Wolff, and of course Steven ducked Sam for a year and a half after getting cold feet.
@Lovro Harmic tbh I don't see anything wrong with what Ethan did. Crowder's entire thing is debating people. The whole "change my mind" gimmick is a big thing he does, but the catch is that he typically aims down. He likes to ambush people on the street, or in this case, a random podcast host who isn't involved with politics. If Steven's ideas are viable and able to be defended, it shouldn't matter who he is debating against, and I think that was the point here. He has no idea what he's talking about so his opinions are trash, therefore he has no idea how to actually argue them and trying to do so *legitimately* would reveal the game. I don't think Ethan was ever interested in hosting any sort of debate with Crowder; I think this was legitimately just to see what he would do when put up against someone who actually knew what they were doing.
I'm not familiar with those cases (except that I don't respect Candace as a political pundit). But can someone explain to me why the hell would Crowder give Seder the time of day? Just... WHY?
Seder is a complete joke. You guys do not look good siding with Sam.
Pretty much anyone else is much more respectable. Kulinsky, Pakman, Destiny, Vaush, etc.
@Lovro Harmic My dude, Ethan LITERALLY admits he's not into politics and isn't very smart, why da fuk would Crowder ever want to debate him and then run away like a little bitch from someone who's actually experienced?
@@AlanGarciaC.1093 Why shouldn't he? If Seder is such a joke than Crowder should have no trouble exposing that🤷🏻♀️
@Lovro Harmic by your logic, Crowder running away is a coward move because he knows Sam is smarter than him.
Not the biggest H3H3 fan, but how can you not love Ethan for this? 😂
Crowder is one of those guys I'd love to get into a ring with but he'd be way to afraid to step into the ring with a transwoman
Steven Crowder: “Very strange of you to end your show early last week.”
Also Steven “I like to go on college campuses and debate students.” Crowder: “The reason I didn’t want to debate is because my audience would say “Sam who??””
No no, you have it mistaken. He says here "Change My Mind" isn't "debating." Apparently Change My Mind is...different...somehow...than debating, ;-)
Crowder can debate children but a grown ass man is too hard 😂
Like where's the line? Ethan has 2 million fewer subs than Crowder, yet Crowder was okay debating him. MR still has over a million subs, which isn't nothing. Crowder actually challenged Kyle Kulinski to a debate when he only had around ~200k subs. To say nothing of the fact that Crowder built his career on ambush debate tactics. Rationalizing this is all meaningless anyway since Crowder admitted to monitoring the MR streams.
@@generalmartok3990 so Martok did Kyle decline debating Crowder? How did he justify that?
@@darkcrystalmagik3369 Pretty sure he did but I'm not sure why. Don't follow Kyle that much, was just aware of the Twitter drama around it at the time.
Imagine Stephen Crowder getting bodied in a debate with Ryan's Toy Review.
Come on, man. That'd be like dropping a tactical nuke in a barrel full of carp.
Ryan's Toy Review could get a better debate with a broom.
Take my money
My niece would appreciate this one.
Lol
🤣🤣
Ethan and Seder pulled a Code Geass with that pre-recorded stunt.
Reminds me of the Lind L Taylor trap near the beginning of Death Note
Wow, this is totally a “Platos Allegory of the Cave” moment for me. Honestly, watching this, opened my eyes to the world.
I thought I was rational for watching conservative media, and just ate it up without a second thought, all the while believing I was knowledgeable in the political sphere.
But holy shit, fuck conservatives like Steven Crowder, Michael Knowles, etc.
I feel like I’ve been slipping away from the conservative ideology for a while know, but this is my political “Watergate”.
Thanks to the likes of Vaush, H.BomberGuy, Knowing Better, and Contra Points for giving me the other perspective, and challenging my own. In essence, educating me.
It’s like they say with cults-
“You only know it’s a cult of your viewing it from the outside”.
I feel like an absolute piece of shit for the awful takes I’ve had. But hey, I feel a lot less stressed about America, but also more so.
- The climates dying, for real
- The Pandemic is serious, for real
- Biden is president, for real
- Socialism and Progressive ideas aren’t bad, actually
- Government welfare programs aren’t unnecessary, oppressive, or encouraging lazy behavior, actually
- Oh yeah, and femboys shouldn’t be fetishized. A relevant political issue, I swear
Didn’t realize I was in the far right or if it even existed until just recently.
Being part of the youth, as vulnerable as the demographic is, I was roped into conservative ideology, because of a shit ton of confirmation bias.
I’d your reading this, thanks for reading :)
I can add to that list. Off the top of my head:
These guys are a part of the very loose H.BomberGuy and Knowing Better group. They comment on each other's videos anyway:
Some More News: If you ever read Cracked back in the day, you might like to see what some of them are doing now. They are doing the news! But only some of it. It's performative like crowder, but ... actually, it's more like an ... angrier Jon Stewart (Jon is getting back into the game btw, his new show is: The Problem with Jon Stewart).
Folding Ideas: He does a lot of stuff about movies, but he does politics too. "That Time Geocentrists Tricked A Bunch of Physicists" and "In Search Of A Flat Earth" are good, well researched documentary type videos.
Philosophy Tube: I found his older videos and I liked what I saw. "Bannon | Philosophy Tube" is fantastic. "Antisemitism: An Analysis | Philosophy Tube" made me understand WHY all the jew hate from the fascist types.
"Why We Build the Wall (COVER)" is a banger. And then he transitioned into a she. I don't know any trans people IRL, this channel made "trans people" more real to me. Less abstract.
And:
timbah on toast: smaller channel, but Sam Seder mentioned them on a show once, and I looked them up. His Tim Pool videos are pretty good, his Project Veritas videos are good political history content.
Carlos Maza: He's the VOX guy who crowder made the "fig" shirts about. He's gone off to do his own youtube channel. If you want the deep stuff, his "How To Be Hopeless" video was very helpful to me.
"On this earth there are pestilences and there are victims, and it's up to us, so far as possible, not to join forces with the pestilences. That may sound simple to the point of childishness; I can't judge if it's simple, but I know it's true." - Albert Camus, The Plague
There's nothing wrong with a "measure twice, cut once" conservative. You can have a conservative temperament AND take notice of the weather. Honestly, the progressive Left can use some conservative temperaments to balance us out.
Glad you stopped mindlessly watching the alt-right turds. You just gotta keep reminding yourself, “If literal Nazis are fans of this guy, then maybe I should question whether or not I should be buying into it.”
You should also check out that massive article that came out a few years ago that exposed Breitbart as a huge scheme to launder white nationalism talking points of their overt racism and platform them as part of the mainstream debate. Scary stuff.
@@aristizle8797I just got into Folding Ideas. His stuff is densely packed, but if you can figure out what the hell he’s taking about, it’s REALLY good. Makes me feel dumb when I can’t follow along though. That dude’s crazy smart.
Looks like Stevens comedy career is finally kicking off.
Underrated reply
@@miink1y yea he's literally a failed comedian, the thing he is accusing of Sam being here. Just like Ben Shapiro is a failed screenwriter. These guys are all bitter because they weren't good enough to break into their dream careers, and blame "The Left" for their lack of talent.
Another failed comedian like Dimmy Jore!
Omg I didn't know that he wanted to be a comedian 😂😂
@@eddietheberniebro5503 or Sam Seder …
Crowder could have weaseled out of this situation if he just left immediately or manned-up, yet he _STILL_ somehow managed to pick the absolute worst option: throwing a temper tantrum in front of millions of people.
I agree. If he was more civil and just said something like how “this wasn’t what I agreed to do” then we wouldn’t look this bad.
Not like Ethan lied about it being a debate between just the two of them or somthing
The toxic masculinity is keeping him from doing the demure, reserved thing. It's like he only knows projecting an image of dominance and strength.
@@cambriakilgannon12 too bad his ideal of masculinity is being a man child
This was exactly my thought, if Crowder had been like "This is not what we agreed to do Ethan. why do you bring Sam Seder on? I thought this was between us" and dealt with it in a calm manner he could actually have left the call without dealing with Sam and still kept some face, instead he throws a temper tantrum....
Bruh crowder had me brainwashed someone remove him from the internet. For the last few years I was all crowder Shapiro tim pool and I realized they dont debate. I got into debates from religion which caused me to leave religion. I noticed the conversations on both sides make points and i noticed i only knee one pov of politics. as soon as i redefined socialism and got informed on hot controversial topics from a leftist view I have abandoned all right wing media. It turned me into a racist transphobia idiot excuse this format In a rushhhh
Glad you were able to do some self reflecting, that’s huge!
Welcome buddy
There is nothing more commendable than having the guts to face your own convictions and reflect upon oneself. Happy that you are here
That " Stevens dad trying to phone reach him so he'll end the show" bit was 12/10
This is the sequel to Larry King destroying Dave Rubin.
Damn I wish Michael Brooks was around to have seen both.
Still the coldest diss ever, answering that phone call.
@@SniffySnoffy it's as beautiful as this
Apt comparison. Rubin also runs away because when I commented on his channel after Larry died after getting COVID that I thought his rhetoric on the pandemic was harmful, they deleted it so goddamn fast.
Oh I just remembered they've disabled replies on the pinned comment on this video on Crowder's channel XD. I tried twice to call him a whimp XD
Disappointed Ethan didn’t upload this on Fathers Day to honor the healthy father-son relationship between Seeder and Crowder
Seder, man.
@@TheBlarggle
Not after that banging😏
crowder checks beneath his bed every night.
because there may be sam boogey seder :)
Please someone make an edit where dark souls boss music plays when Seder enters the call
Alternatively "O Fortuna" would do. ^_^
OMG YES!!!
_Seder of The Boreal Valley_
Genius
Mozart's Lacrimosa
When they were asking Sam to remove his glasses the co host says "or if there is a soul" that's antisemitism clear as day.
The leprechaun said that?
it was a book reference but it was also cleverly veiled antisemitism. that's how they get away with it in the sunlight
@@thebloodredeye8553 yeah
@@xXluluchanelXx the rabbit part is the book reference. not soul.
I used to think Crowder had guts and that he knew what he was talking about, back when he was the underdog. Now, the veil is uncovered and I see a manipulative, bully who is afraid to be wrong.
Out of curiosity when did you see him as the underdog?
@@HappyPsychoBunny3 I second this question. Most of the sane, politically savvy people I know have always been annoyed by Steven Crowder because the things that grate on people now and "cross the line" are the same things he's been doing for years. The casual misogyny, the racism, the insensitivity to the suffering of other human beings (recall his George Floyd stunt), the elitism... it's been there since the beginning. Whatever "good" points he may have made in the beginning of his media career, whatever status quo he was challenging back then was easily overshadowed by his less than stellar qualities.
To me, at least. So yeah, the question remains: when did you see the millionaire son of a greater media multi-millionaire as the underdog? And if he was the underdog, who was the, uh... overdog he was fighting?
So he should change the show to "Cower with Crowder"
lol
😂
Stephen's shirt: "FIGHT LIKE HELL"
Stephen: "CRY AND RUN"
It’s more like “SHIT YOURSELF”
@@AlexeiIgnavich "SPRAY LIQUID SHIT ALL OVER YOUR CHAIR!"
"PANIK"
@@Axxilles Semi-liquid
Ethan's Shirt: I'll pick a fight with you then send along my little fwiend.
I love that holster-wearing, "I'm a tough guy" Crowder is pants-shittingly terrified of Seder who has a stutter and generally keeps a calm demeanor when debating.
Also love that the right considers it "bullying" when you fact check them and don't let them talk over you.
“You’re not being bullied
You’re picking a fight
And losing that fight”
I just don't understand why Crowder won't debate him. He's obviously afraid that he will lose and his grift will be exposed; but, what happened here is like, objectively worse than that lol. Like Sam said, he formally debated Kirk (and won), but clearly Kirk still has plenty of fame and money, you know?
Also, what happened last night will generate infinitely more memes and ridicule, than if he just formally debated Sam at some stuffy boring political convention.
Trust me, millions and millions of more people watch Ethan, Steven, and Sam informally, than they would tune into a formal political debate at some convention center.
@@RemixedVoice that’s why you can tell that this was a panicked decision wrought out of true fear and cowardice. A rational mind would think “Well, this sucks, but I’m stuck and I’ll claim I was railroaded to my audience after”
But Crowder wasn’t thinking rationally. He was a scared little bully in a playground who was picking on a little kid and got confronted by that kid’s older brother. His flight response kicked in and he needed to do anything he could to get out of that situation.
The fact that Crowder tried to call Sam out for not being funny whilst also being a failed comedian was unironically the hardest I've laughed at anything Crowder has ever said.
Sam barely has a stutter
Crowder on the other hand: “You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question?” “Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Whoaoaoaoaoh! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam!”
This is really Daddy Darrin's fault. He worked so hard protecting Steven from Sam that Sam became a boogeyman in Steven's head. So when they finally met, Steven choked.
Okay here’s one thing I don’t get: why is Crowder afraid to debate Seder specifically. He seems totally normal to me, doesn’t have this far-reaching reputation of owning the conservatives, so why is Crowder so pressed about avoiding him at all costs? Oh well, either way it’s incredibly entertaining to watch.
Sam doesnt have the reputation yea but watch some of his shows he did this shit when crowder was still in his managers balls. There is no way someone without an argument, education or real agenda besides being racist can get out of a conversation with Sam good looking. Watched only a few myself and noticed they are all similar because Sam has his talking points polished and people just crumble the same ways over and over again. :D
Crowders Dad: "Are ya winning, son?"
Crowder: "WAKE ME UP, WAKE ME UP INSIDE SAVE MEEEE"
😂😂😂😭
The palpable fear from this guy who tries to project super masculinity is just lol.
He is so pathetic lmaoooo
ive never met more of a woman
Mac from IASIP
@@Greyz174 implying that women are cowards in general is awful. You are acting like chowder head here bud.
@@chrischickering1959 im making fun of him for saying "ive never met more of a woman"
"Show yourself Steven, you coward! Stop showing your little leprechaun co-host!" I love Ethan lmao
Guys just to make it clear, if Vaush did what Crowder did in that debate. Run away pathetically after insulting the person to their face, even if it was Destiny or a nazi, we would criticize/give him hell for that. Right? Like I know Vaush hasn’t given use any reason to think he would do that, but we hold him to some standards don’t we?
Idk I’m just asking because what I have seen is many Crowder fans defend him despite running away, and I’m disappointed that they don’t hold him to a good standard despite gaining fame by shows like Change my mind.
Yeah im pretty sure Vaush fans want him to debate anything that moves. Like hell that would fly around here.
Yeah if vaush always went on that he could “out debate” anyone on the right, then ran crying and pissing his pants, we’d mock the shit outta him
“I haven’t followed your career like you seem to have followed mine”
-Sam Seder
Seder literally thrives off following people like this
@Chemical Lemons That was maybe the best moment in this whole exchange 😂
@@BlakesGamez instead of cold feet crowder, who literally has a segment where he ambushes people? Remember the trans man he showed up to the work of? Yeah....you should check what cold feet crowder has done before saying that.
@@brandonrathbone3690 Yeah I know, I'm not a fan of the crowder confronts segment
Except he says this in the context of following crowder around to debate him, which kind of invalidates it.
Masterful Tactician Crowder: “Your glasses are stupid Sam!”
Your glasses are stupid and you have 'velveteen rabbit eyes' - what the hell does that mean lol...other than something probably incredibly crass and possibly anti-semitic.
It’s some anti Semitic shit about Jews having beady eyes
@@estebancomulet quite the reach but keep reaching
@Luck Genuine Lightning Common?! By all accounts it’s super old. Keep reaching.
@@ryanpierce3986 It is super old, for sure, it just also happens to still be actively still in use in antisemitic circles.
Like do you seriously expect me to believe that Steven Crowder suddenly decided to reference "velveteen rabbit eyes" out of nowhere? I mean if we are going to talk about something being super old, the book that popularized velveteen rabbits was from *1922.*
It is also important to note that his eyes do not actually resemble buttons in any way. That is a super specific insult to randomly throw out. So specifically racist. And it absolutely is not a regularly used insult in *any* context aside from antisemitism, so it is not something people just happen to say.
Vaush should debate Crowder. We gotta get him to 2 million first
This no joke reminds me of when Destiny debated No Bs, and it degenerated into no Bs calling him stupid for an hour
It was that bad for crowder