"Ned had known their faces as well as he knew his own once, but the years leech at a man’s memories, even those he has vowed never to forget." The prose for this entire passage is nothing short of genius.
@@smallbudoo Yeah, maybe a little less describing what food is on the table and creating endless side characters, and a little more moving the story along would be great.
@@martheresa7550 you realize only 2 out of 7 men returned from a high advantage of 7 vs 3. And we're talking 7 knights. Grown men. They should have won easily.
Amazing how a single narrator and a set of sliding pictures manage to be more epic, more poignant, more tragic, more exciting, than the scene from the HBO show with all their money and actors and expensive costumes.
Agree with you! But I still enjoyed this scene in the show though. The actor who played Dayne was great. The show's great but the books are just better. Greater. :)
Agreed so much! I just watched the HBO version a 2nd time and only a few moments of the sword fight are impressive. I've rewatched this video over and over - and it's still perfect every time. Of course, it's hard to translate the epic style of narration into a visual scene, but they still did such a poor job. The dialogue is all circumcised and awkward. There's no tension, no build-up. No romance. The actors aren't great, but whoever directed them is at fault really.
“He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.” D&D: “Screw that dumb sword. Let’s make Dayne use duel blades.”
Eleanor Rigby "No, now it ends" was in the scene? And what do you mean dusted off? It was pretty similair. Them excluding Ser Gerold Hightower was bad tho. But I get it, they wanted to focus on Dayne and how op he was. The fight scene was amazing tho.
Yeeeasss... it was almost for a moment that i felt i was listening to LOTR or the Silmarillion being read out aloud. Grandeur and majesty of words . Very beautifully wrotten by Martin.
I think George is most like Tolkien in prophecy dialogue, magic related chapters, and scenes like this. This is probably my favorite couple of paragraphs in all of fantasy lol so it makes sense it reminds me of both of my favorite writers.
RIP Roy Dotrice, we will never see his like. Although I may forget how most of the TV shows look like, I will never forget Roy Dotrice's voice. It will shine brightly in my memory.
With a script so good like this one in their hands, hbo managed to fuck up this scene. I still cant believe they cut the LORD COMMANDER OF THE KINGSGUARD out of the entire scene.
+Aziz Head no that was oswald whent, the one who was sharpening his sword with the wetstone. Besides hightower was an old man, not very old but supposed to be much older than the guy portrayed at the show. And most important, THEY WERE 7 FACING 3 for fucks sake not 6 facing 2. Hbo fucked up one of the most important events of the whole story just because they didnt want to spend money on another 2 sword-wielding cast members.
Yeah you got it right. Except the actor confirmed on his twitter account that he was hired to play Hightower. And I agree that they could have done better considering how important the whole thing is to the story
Finally seeing this scene played out in the show, how the entire shows been watered down really, makes me appreciate the writing of Martin even more. Hurry with the books, I beg of you.
dude you don't understand how pissed I was. it was still good. but damn. not even the fucking morning star. a sword made by an element they found on a fucking meteriote. couldn't even put that in. or not even ser gerold. it was 7 against 3 dammit. someone make a Hitler video. we need it!
This dream has a certain poetic beauty to it, with all the dialogue. ”Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.” ”Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell. ”But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.” ”Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm. ”We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold. Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three. ”And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light. ”No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice, “now it ends.”
TOJ had three legendary kings guard, ancient proud houses, a most famous sword, and it brought many pieces of the story together, both past and present with their conversation. It gave so much context to Ned, Howland Reed, Jamie Lannister killing the mad king with his golden sword, viserys & daenerys fleeing dragonstone, and how epic the kingsuard once was. What we received from the show was a butchery of one the top three most critical parts of the story-line of the entire book, the last battle where past became present, and we learn the origin of both fire & ice. "...and he would have killed me but for Howland Reed"
And context to everything you said? We learn all of that before or after this passage in the books. I'm not hating just wondering, it's been a while since I read AGOT so it would be awesome if you could lay it out for me. lol
thinking about it, maybe another reason why Jaime hated Ned it's because in the eyes of History. It was Ned who slain The sword of the morning who Jaime admired and i'm sure he loved dearly
This may be my favourite literary passage of all time. GRRM might have screwed up a lot of deadlines but he's produced some real moments of magic in the books he managed to release
"They were seven against three." And no ordinary seven mind you, those are all great lords of the North, respectable fighters in their own rights. And they were against three, and still lost (but Howland Reed saved Ned in the end). Really shows just how insanely powerful the Kingsguard of old must have been.
I’ve honestly never been more disappointed than when I saw the shows interpretation of this moment, fewer people, stripped the dialogue, I knew at this point it (tv show) was going to go down the shitter, although the last two episodes of this season were brilliant
+Elvin Khudiyev No, that is a cheep answer, he may be over hating or something but that its not a valid answer. Well at least for the Daynes the whole history of that house is based in Dawn sword its literaly in their banners so it actually hurts a lot. At least the Dayne part seems to be a mess for now.
Catelyn Tully Well they're not going to do the Daynes in the show (at least not fully), which is why Dawn wasn't included, it wouldnt have mattered and it wouldnt have shown that Arthur Dayne was the greatest fighter in westeros in just a short scene if he only had 1 OP looking sword. Then it would just seem like hes winning because of Dawn.
XenonSpark Well that is the whole point of it to some extent, as George said Dawn makes a diference, and Bran could have talked about how his father told the sword was made from a meteorite. It could have been enough. Then show the 2 v 6 (or 3 v 7 like in the book if you want to) and Ned didn't needed to be a super great warrior who 1 v 1 one of the Kingsguard. Don't get me wrong i understand many changes but i also understand that they butchered something really important about House Dayne, at least they didn't made Ned kill Arthur.
I love how there's this underlying feeling of nostalgia for "better times" throughout the series where the knights of the realm were as honourable as they come. It's all shown through dreams and dialogue so of course the reader would be seeing it through the character's bias. And they compare it to the events happening around them such as one of the Kingsguard surrendering Prince Tommen to sellswords without even drawing their sword.
They already have, in the trailer for next week, when young ned says " now it ends " he did not say it with sadness but more of confidence. Already ruined
This makes me so sad that if we ever get The Winds Of Winter or A Dream of Spring they won’t be read to us by Roy Dotrice. I love listening to him in these stories. This and him singing “Last of the Giants” from those Jon chapters beyond the wall always get to me. RIP
they got real lazy over the seasons. I guess they didn't think people would care. but only if they had seen how much likes this video gets. they would know. the fools.
+Landonias A problem is that George the fat lazy bastard makes the books at such a slow pace so they kinda have to change certain stuff and come up with certain stuff themselves. But I agree that there's a lot of dumb stuff like Tower Of Joy that they could've been more faithful to the book for.
I still get shiver by looking at this video. It is so perfectly narrated and animated, truly does justice to my favorite passage in all the five books. ASOAIF is such a masterpiece and it truly hurts me that it will probably not get the ending it deserves.
This video really brings this epic scene to life! It's one of the sections in the book where I actually got chills as I was reading it and I'm so glad it's finally going to be put in the show. Hopefully D&D don't screw it up...
The film industry never stops milking works of art like star wars. After the novel and the show are done it's almost certain they will do a mini series or maybe a movie with ned as the protagonist.
Bad. Didn't set the scene well, lost its epic feel. Dialogue wasn't delivered properly. They made the northerners look like peasants/common soldiers for no apparent reason. Two swords gimmick rather than proper sword of dawn.
+thatsmygorilla My main issue is that Ned goes from saying his lines with a sadness, to being cocky in this clip. Ned. Shy Ned. Dutiful Ned...the inflection on that line took me right out of it.
+thatsmygorilla - There's no back story or connection with the new characters in this scene, nor any reason to draw it out in a 50 min episode. It was a well-filmed fight scene. It has purpose/meaning, and it served its purpose. Directly comparing formats with a TV show will get you nothing but frustrated I'm sure.
Hagar TheHonorable Well they could have shown that without showing Leanna and therefore not revealing Jon. But I do hope they do eventually show it, I also hope they show it the way I envision it happening (the actual fight is very vague), so I'll probably be disappointed by the fight when it does happen, lol
1stWorldofFreedom I'd rather Arthur Dayne remain dead. The only fitting way for the best swordsman and knight in the seven kingdoms to die is performing his duty with a sword in his hand while taking at least two extremely competent swordsman out with him. The tower of joy represents that to me. The High Sparrow does not.
Lovvvveee how GRRM writes!!! "But the years leach of a man's memories...". His choice of words are so simple and yet make a simple point shine like a diamond!
They should've used this music in the scene, they should've put it in night and they should've had more dialogue, still this version is better than show's one.
I always found it interesting that "7 against 3" is repeated twice in the dream sequence. As if Martin hints at something. These numbers are prominent in the story...7 realms, 7 gods of the New, 3-headed dragon (prophecy), the 3 betrayals of Dany. Could be hinting that the 7 realms will not kneel to the three-headed dragon but rather resist it/them.
They already did once, it's commonly referred to as the War of Conquest. The 7 Kingdoms also refers to the state of Westeros as it was at the beginning of said war. The Kingdom of Rivers and Hills had been conquered by first the Stormlords, and then the Iron Islands, making it the Kingdom of Isles and Rivers. If you include the Crownlands, the 7 Kingdoms are currently 9 :V
Jesus, that ought to be the most cringeworthy thing I've ever written on this site. Well, it is one of my favorite parts in ASOIAF and I think the show absolutely didn't do it justice. If I would guess, because they weren't that interested in investing in a seemingly mundane fight scene, which is a thing that a good writer with attention to detail wouldn't do, like George hasn't done. There was none of the mystique and surreal atmosphere, even though it happened on a vision. The knights looked as mundane and unnapealing as they could ever, and of course, because why not, removing an already pretty good dialogue in order to bother writing a new one that weren't even as good. Oh well. If I would bother reflecting on why the show turned the way it did for every scene I would go mad, but I don't even care anymore. The show's over. The books aren't, and I'm interested in those...
This scene is GRRM at his best - the hints and story that are conveyed hidden behind the words. A simple question like Ned asking why the Kingsguard were not with Rhaegar reveals so much given the context of what we know now; Rhaegar had sent these men to the tower of joy to protect his heir, the rightful King. The Kingsguard died undertaking a task which they were honour bound to do. Otherwise, not knowing this detail, Ned is right to question why they were away from the 'Battle of the Trident' and the prince they should have been protecting; a 'dishonour' in the eyes of honourable Ned Stark. Its little tidbits like this which were hugely prevalent in the first book(s) which over time got a little watered. I think GoT shows what GRRM can do with a clear vision, unfortunately that seems to more 'roaming' (or cultivated to use his gardener analogy) in the later books. There seems to be a lot more placing things in the book which are 'cool' rather than overly important to the plot.
I wish the narrator was assisted with a two more VAs. Maybe a younger man to voice the younger men and a female voice for Lyanna. Especially the one for Lyanna, the old man's voice is so jarring. Other than that, I find myself coming back to the video for the solid narration and accompanied art. The transition to the show's Eddard waking up from a dream was another excellent choice.
love the way these kingsguard knew they were dead but fulfilled there vow to the end, my favourite 3 kingsguard members Aemon The Dragonknight, Ser Arthur Dayne and Ryam Redwyne. Worst 3 Jamie lannister the kingslayer ser Criston Cole the kingmaker and boros blunt the fat coward
Hard to believe that the greatest scene in the book series is finally coming to fruition next episode. PLEASE DO IT JUSTICE!!!! May 8th can't come soon enough!!!
"Our knees do not bend easily" ...."The Kingsguard does not flee". That's loyalty, ladies and gentlemen. The war was over. It was likely that the Usurper would have accepted them back into the Kingsguard had they wished this. But they chose their honor and their loyalty to the true King (at this point Viserys who was not yet a monster) over their comfort, or even their lives.
@@redmanofdoom937 - Well, no. They were still guarding the Tower, because they had been ordered to do so by Rhaegar, and no command had come from either King's Landing (from Aerys) or Dragonstone (from Rhaella as Viserys' regent) to countermand that order. Even if we go by the show's version (we don't know the "real" story yet, because the book series isn't finished), the last legitimate King (Aerys) ascended Viserys to the status of heir apparent. Meaning that on Aerys' death, the crown passed to Viserys, who was indeed proclaimed King on Dragonstone.
I was so hyped for this scene when I knew it was gonna be in the show. Expected it to be epic but instead we got some half arsed scene where they had a dumbed down fight, left out Gerald Hightower, and cut out most of the dialogue too...
This amazing scene was incredibly and utterly flat in the TV version. Rushed and ruined. And worst of all then cut right before the key moment just to drag this shit out longer because these fools don't know how to properly plan a season out.
All D&D had to do was follow this narration and put in some great fighting and it would have been awesome . Arthur Dayne didn’t even have the sword Dawn for god’s sake.
How could he when the Starks, Tullys, Arryns and Baratheons were aligned and marching on Kingslanding? Tywin has no blood claim to the throne while Robert did.
***** But Tywin has not claim to the Throne. He would have not legitimacy. Robert has a claim to the throne because he has Targaryen blood. Ned and Robert would not have yielded the throne to Tywin just because he held King's Landing.
***** Than you don't know Westerosi history very well. The Taragaryens married brothers to sisters, and had only been in Westeros for 300 years. When there was no other option available they would marry outside there house. But that has only happened 3 - 4 times. There's most definitely no bloodline connecting any Lannister with a Taragaryen.
Rutger Holtzer They married out a bit more than that i believe, at least five matches with house Velaryon, three with house Martell, the first Viserys was married to an Arryn and later Allicent Hightower, and Maegor had 8-9 wives, among them Jeyne Westerling, Alys Harroway and Tyanna of Pentos. The intermarriages weren't exclusively brother-sister either: Rhaenyra's second husband was her uncle. But indeed, no Lannister-Targaryen connection as of yet.
Tone202 these three were arguably the strongest knights in the kingdom; seven might not be enough to fight them. Ned almost died fighting Arthur and even returned his sword to the Dayne household.
I just love stories, especially fantasy stories with such a rich mythology and history as Ice and Fire. The only downside to it is that in some instances it almost makes you want to watch/read about the things that happened in the past rather than the story that is happening right now. How Aegon conquered Westeros, Robert's Rebellion and everything that led to it, the Greyjoy Rebellion ect. It all sounds so fascinating with so many interesting characters like Arthur Dayne or Raegar Targaryen who have been long dead at the start of the actual story.
+Bashman11 the hole Dance man. Everything around it is epic. And just that feeling of watching those dragons destroying each other makes it even better than any storyline of ASOIAF
Best thing to ever happen to me was to watch the show before the books. Otherwise I would have completely hated the HBO scene because damn this version is just soooooooooooooooooo goooooooooood!!! 😍😍😍
"Ned had known their faces as well as he knew his own once, but the years leech at a man’s memories, even those he has vowed never to forget." The prose for this entire passage is nothing short of genius.
Geniro Dingle this really is a heavy line and shows how time can wash away our once vivid, cherished memories.
@@jademonolith sad yet true. It’s why we’re all so nostalgic for times we barely remember
Especially because when it came to the three Kingsguard, it was "Their faces burn clear even now".
“Our knees do not bend easily”
Chills every time
Same here. Goosebumps
This is peak Ice and Fire. I don't think fantasy has ever been better than this.
Reading the 4 and 5th books makes me sad remembering how damn good the first 3 books were
@@MrMustache-yn4zmI agree. Such a steep drop-off in quality from the 3rd book to the 4th and 5th.
@@marktastic86 Fr, still undeniably good but so lost in what it actually wants to be.
@@smallbudoo Yeah, maybe a little less describing what food is on the table and creating endless side characters, and a little more moving the story along would be great.
@@marktastic86 Yeah ngl I skipped entire pages from Briennes chapters. Pretty much filler.
"yet these were no ordinary three" oh god what a great line
"And these were no shadows. Their faces burned clear even now."
LANTR0 They were no ordinary three yet they were slayed by Ned and co.
@@martheresa7550 you realize only 2 out of 7 men returned from a high advantage of 7 vs 3. And we're talking 7 knights. Grown men. They should have won easily.
Don't forget 'Woe to the Usurper if we had been'
@@food4j even in the books it's said over and over how hard is to fight against multiple opponents, 7v3 and only 2 survivors
D&D read this scene and thought: "This is boring why are they just talking? You know what this needs? The Phantom Menace."
STAR WARS INDEED...
They ruined this scene. They could not even hire a third actor to play ser oswell whent
When Arthur Dayne did a stupid twirly thing with two swords I screamed at my television
"The Kings Guard does not flee"
"Then or now"
Badass lines
"And now it begins"
"No, now it ends"
ever more badass lines
Every line in that was badass tbh
Fucking Eddard's accent made it even more badass haha. *I LEHKED FER YA EN DA TRIDAHNT!*
My favorite line of the books
"Our knees do not bend easily"
Jesus Christ, this is a hell of a piece of writing.
+twofoodstamps Thank you.
Gods, the writing was strong then!
Game of Thrones actually made A Song of Ice and Fire severely under rated
Amazing how a single narrator and a set of sliding pictures manage to be more epic, more poignant, more tragic, more exciting, than the scene from the HBO show with all their money and actors and expensive costumes.
Agree with you! But I still enjoyed this scene in the show though. The actor who played Dayne was great. The show's great but the books are just better. Greater. :)
The series has to appeal to those who do not read the book. All this extra Derry gone, etc was cut for time.
Agreed so much! I just watched the HBO version a 2nd time and only a few moments of the sword fight are impressive. I've rewatched this video over and over - and it's still perfect every time. Of course, it's hard to translate the epic style of narration into a visual scene, but they still did such a poor job. The dialogue is all circumcised and awkward. There's no tension, no build-up. No romance. The actors aren't great, but whoever directed them is at fault really.
The language in the book is so much better.. the description, the attention to detail
Because this is from Ned’s narrative not Bran that it makes it more dramatic
“He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.”
D&D: “Screw that dumb sword. Let’s make Dayne use duel blades.”
BECAUSE DUAL BLADES ITS THE ULTIMATE SWORDMANSHIP, fucking retards i'm glad their reputation is ruined forever
Nailed it...
And make a choreographed fight scene that is devoid of logic and if anyone really tried it they would just get stabbed in their face in 3 seconds.
Still not over how badly they botched it.
“He unsheathed 2 plain old man at arms swords and held each with one hand. It wasn’t really that cool.”
"No, now it ends" goosebumps
that's the only line I didn't like from the whole exchange, to be honest. It's so cliche and it jarred with the rest of the writing.
Eleanor Rigby "No, now it ends" was in the scene? And what do you mean dusted off? It was pretty similair. Them excluding Ser Gerold Hightower was bad tho. But I get it, they wanted to focus on Dayne and how op he was. The fight scene was amazing tho.
Noh, nowy tends
@@cristofererlandsson4444 Gerold Hightower was indeed in the script, though the actor was anything but the White Bull.
This is probably the most Tolkien-like thing in ASOIAF. It just reminds me of his style of writing so much as well.
Yeeeasss... it was almost for a moment that i felt i was listening to LOTR or the Silmarillion being read out aloud. Grandeur and majesty of words . Very beautifully wrotten by Martin.
He compares Ned and his companions to the 7 wraiths with shadow swords
Interesting that the 7 here are compared to bad guys. @@SunDogGod
I think George is most like Tolkien in prophecy dialogue, magic related chapters, and scenes like this. This is probably my favorite couple of paragraphs in all of fantasy lol so it makes sense it reminds me of both of my favorite writers.
“Woe to the Usurper if we had been” gah damn this small confrontation in this huge chapter is so epic!
So badass, every line in this, the setting, the descriptions, this scene is just gold.
Cassiano Barcellos
"then or now"
"we swore a vow"
Rain Yeah definitely my favourite part. "he donned his helm" what a bad ass.
***** I see your point, I made that connection too.
+Cassiano Barcellos Indeed ! Probably one of the best scenes. And the reading here is brilliant too. Love the voice.
Cassiano Barcellos and the narration.
RIP Roy Dotrice, we will never see his like. Although I may forget how most of the TV shows look like, I will never forget Roy Dotrice's voice. It will shine brightly in my memory.
And now his watch has ended.
he was a good man and true @@muas923
"Woe to the userper". lmao. Love GRRM. One of the best. No doubt about it.
@The Law They just follow orders ..
@The Law Finally Goldenhand the Just is getting the respect he is due.
With a script so good like this one in their hands, hbo managed to fuck up this scene. I still cant believe they cut the LORD COMMANDER OF THE KINGSGUARD out of the entire scene.
Hightower? He was they that got killed by Ned
+Aziz Head no that was oswald whent, the one who was sharpening his sword with the wetstone. Besides hightower was an old man, not very old but supposed to be much older than the guy portrayed at the show. And most important, THEY WERE 7 FACING 3 for fucks sake not 6 facing 2. Hbo fucked up one of the most important events of the whole story just because they didnt want to spend money on another 2 sword-wielding cast members.
Yeah you got it right. Except the actor confirmed on his twitter account that he was hired to play Hightower. And I agree that they could have done better considering how important the whole thing is to the story
+strutter0505 Actually it was Gerold Hightower not Whent.
+Carlos A. Galindo
More accurately, it was a mixture of both.
Finally seeing this scene played out in the show, how the entire shows been watered down really, makes me appreciate the writing of Martin even more. Hurry with the books, I beg of you.
dude you don't understand how pissed I was. it was still good. but damn. not even the fucking morning star. a sword made by an element they found on a fucking meteriote. couldn't even put that in. or not even ser gerold. it was 7 against 3 dammit. someone make a Hitler video. we need it!
+food4j Morning star? The sword is called Dawn.
+Stuart Mannick
I know but I was so caught up in disappointment that I wrote morning star.😆
Maybe because it would be hard to make a milk white greatsword like it look good in real life in the show.
+Robin MX C.G.I
This dream has a certain poetic beauty to it, with all the dialogue.
”Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
”Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.
”But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.”
”Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.
”We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.
Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
”And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
”No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice, “now it ends.”
***** Or maybe the first of the action movies. The dawn of Cliche and so so so epic.
TOJ had three legendary kings guard, ancient proud houses, a most famous sword, and it brought many pieces of the story together, both past and present with their conversation. It gave so much context to Ned, Howland Reed, Jamie Lannister killing the mad king with his golden sword, viserys & daenerys fleeing dragonstone, and how epic the kingsuard once was. What we received from the show was a butchery of one the top three most critical parts of the story-line of the entire book, the last battle where past became present, and we learn the origin of both fire & ice. "...and he would have killed me but for Howland Reed"
Origin of fire and ice? Plz explain. I thought the show did an OK job. Obviously not as good at the book but good enough imo.
And context to everything you said? We learn all of that before or after this passage in the books. I'm not hating just wondering, it's been a while since I read AGOT so it would be awesome if you could lay it out for me. lol
Jon Snow.
He is Ice(Stark) and Fire(Targaryen).
thinking about it, maybe another reason why Jaime hated Ned it's because in the eyes of History. It was Ned who slain The sword of the morning who Jaime admired and i'm sure he loved dearly
Great point! Never thought of that angle. Jamie probably also was jealous of the glory Ned received (even if he didn't want it).
"Ser Willem is a good man and true, but not of The King's Guard."
"The King's Guard does not flee."
"Then, or now...we swore a vow..."
This may be my favourite literary passage of all time. GRRM might have screwed up a lot of deadlines but he's produced some real moments of magic in the books he managed to release
This single passage is greater than the entirety of the HBO show.
One aspect that always made me sad about people from history is the idea that you forget the faces of the people you cared for and loved
my comfort video
I visit it often as well. Absolutely amazing stuff.
“Woe to the usurper if we had been”
My favorite line
"They were seven against three."
And no ordinary seven mind you, those are all great lords of the North, respectable fighters in their own rights. And they were against three, and still lost (but Howland Reed saved Ned in the end). Really shows just how insanely powerful the Kingsguard of old must have been.
Besides Ned, Howland Reed, is the only man (presumably) not dead from this encounter. Howland is holding on to some big secrets.
“And our false brother would burn in seven hells” chills every time!
I’ve honestly never been more disappointed than when I saw the shows interpretation of this moment, fewer people, stripped the dialogue, I knew at this point it (tv show) was going to go down the shitter, although the last two episodes of this season were brilliant
The music used for this video is beautiful by the way. Subtle, but chilling.
miklas1911
It really does add so much atmosphere when compared to listening to the audiobook without it
This video alone was better than season 5-8. I have thought more about this video than any episodes from said seasons.
"Grey wraiths on horses made of mist" hella chills
Only the show can call Arthur Dayne the sword of the morning, yet he has no Dawn with him LOL. I knew they would ruined this scene.
+Darthv90 The show is loosely based, or inspired by the books. Not even an adaptation anymore.
+Darthv90 Wow really? "Ruined this scene"? Its not a complete version of the scene, but they didnt ruin it.
+Elvin Khudiyev No, that is a cheep answer, he may be over hating or something but that its not a valid answer. Well at least for the Daynes the whole history of that house is based in Dawn sword its literaly in their banners so it actually hurts a lot. At least the Dayne part seems to be a mess for now.
Catelyn Tully Well they're not going to do the Daynes in the show (at least not fully), which is why Dawn wasn't included, it wouldnt have mattered and it wouldnt have shown that Arthur Dayne was the greatest fighter in westeros in just a short scene if he only had 1 OP looking sword. Then it would just seem like hes winning because of Dawn.
XenonSpark Well that is the whole point of it to some extent, as George said Dawn makes a diference, and Bran could have talked about how his father told the sword was made from a meteorite. It could have been enough. Then show the 2 v 6 (or 3 v 7 like in the book if you want to) and Ned didn't needed to be a super great warrior who 1 v 1 one of the Kingsguard. Don't get me wrong i understand many changes but i also understand that they butchered something really important about House Dayne, at least they didn't made Ned kill Arthur.
I love how there's this underlying feeling of nostalgia for "better times" throughout the series where the knights of the realm were as honourable as they come. It's all shown through dreams and dialogue so of course the reader would be seeing it through the character's bias. And they compare it to the events happening around them such as one of the Kingsguard surrendering Prince Tommen to sellswords without even drawing their sword.
I'm going to assume that D&D will yet again appeal to soft core viewers and alter the dialogue immensely because no one will know any of this shit.
They already have, in the trailer for next week, when young ned says " now it ends " he did not say it with sadness but more of confidence. Already ruined
+Bashman11 no he sounds tired in the promo
It's not entirely risible for them to appeal to a wide audience, when the books exist for those more curious about the lore, and the finer details.
+MysteriousGamer The worst thing about it is the Lack of Dawn itself... dual wield really...
Stuart Mannick instead of meteor sword
Get that anime crap outta here
This makes me so sad that if we ever get The Winds Of Winter or A Dream of Spring they won’t be read to us by Roy Dotrice. I love listening to him in these stories. This and him singing “Last of the Giants” from those Jon chapters beyond the wall always get to me. RIP
The first season mirrored the first book so well, I wish they could have made this scene tonight more of a carbon copy
they got real lazy over the seasons. I guess they didn't think people would care. but only if they had seen how much likes this video gets. they would know. the fools.
+Landonias A problem is that George the fat lazy bastard makes the books at such a slow pace so they kinda have to change certain stuff and come up with certain stuff themselves. But I agree that there's a lot of dumb stuff like Tower Of Joy that they could've been more faithful to the book for.
I still get shiver by looking at this video. It is so perfectly narrated and animated, truly does justice to my favorite passage in all the five books. ASOAIF is such a masterpiece and it truly hurts me that it will probably not get the ending it deserves.
This video really brings this epic scene to life! It's one of the sections in the book where I actually got chills as I was reading it and I'm so glad it's finally going to be put in the show. Hopefully D&D don't screw it up...
+Rick Grimes from the Comic Series they did no Dawn and 6 vs 2 but I'm still excited for it.
There needs to be a Mini-Series about Robert's Rebellion.
Mr Hot Salsa there will be
Smotis There is no need? All secrets of Roberts Rebellion will be revealed in GoT's current formats?
The film industry never stops milking works of art like star wars. After the novel and the show are done it's almost certain they will do a mini series or maybe a movie with ned as the protagonist.
Mr Hot Salsa omg I've been saying that forever.. it's not enough material for a series but an 8 or
10 part mini would be amazing
Film trilogy is better to have a budget for a large battle scene.
what a chapter, this shows how beautiful George's writing can be. Especially with such a narration
This is the essence of epicness. I just can't wait to see this scene in the show in season 6.
They fucking wrecked this scene
+thatsmygorilla in a good or bad way ? they had to streamline it and it was good enough
Bad. Didn't set the scene well, lost its epic feel. Dialogue wasn't delivered properly. They made the northerners look like peasants/common soldiers for no apparent reason. Two swords gimmick rather than proper sword of dawn.
+thatsmygorilla My main issue is that Ned goes from saying his lines with a sadness, to being cocky in this clip. Ned. Shy Ned. Dutiful Ned...the inflection on that line took me right out of it.
+thatsmygorilla - There's no back story or connection with the new characters in this scene, nor any reason to draw it out in a 50 min episode. It was a well-filmed fight scene. It has purpose/meaning, and it served its purpose. Directly comparing formats with a TV show will get you nothing but frustrated I'm sure.
Remains my favourite scene in the books, why oh why was this not in the show?
Also, Arthur Dayne
Trepur349 i agree with that, really missed the introduction of a great mystery.
Trepur349 I bet they are saving it for Jon Snow's reveal probably towards the end of the series.
Hagar TheHonorable Well they could have shown that without showing Leanna and therefore not revealing Jon.
But I do hope they do eventually show it, I also hope they show it the way I envision it happening (the actual fight is very vague), so I'll probably be disappointed by the fight when it does happen, lol
Trepur349 would it not be cool if the Sparrow was Arthur Dayne lol
1stWorldofFreedom I'd rather Arthur Dayne remain dead.
The only fitting way for the best swordsman and knight in the seven kingdoms to die is performing his duty with a sword in his hand while taking at least two extremely competent swordsman out with him.
The tower of joy represents that to me. The High Sparrow does not.
Lovvvveee how GRRM writes!!! "But the years leach of a man's memories...". His choice of words are so simple and yet make a simple point shine like a diamond!
Howland Reed the true MVP
Why did this make me cry? I just...
They should've used this music in the scene, they should've put it in night and they should've had more dialogue, still this version is better than show's one.
“Our knees do not bend”
“The Kingsguard do not flee… then or now.”
I always found it interesting that "7 against 3" is repeated twice in the dream sequence. As if Martin hints at something. These numbers are prominent in the story...7 realms, 7 gods of the New, 3-headed dragon (prophecy), the 3 betrayals of Dany. Could be hinting that the 7 realms will not kneel to the three-headed dragon but rather resist it/them.
They already did once, it's commonly referred to as the War of Conquest.
The 7 Kingdoms also refers to the state of Westeros as it was at the beginning of said war. The Kingdom of Rivers and Hills had been conquered by first the Stormlords, and then the Iron Islands, making it the Kingdom of Isles and Rivers.
If you include the Crownlands, the 7 Kingdoms are currently 9 :V
gotta love those prime numbers
The seven kingdoms verses the 3 headed dragon
MY FAVORITE PASSAGE IN LITERATURE EVER. IF THEY NAIL THIS ON THE SHOW I'LL SCREAM REALLY LOUD.
+Slow1337ex You may rest easy at last my friend. Oh and scream
+215Ravenous Now to destroy them vocal chords for R+L=J
+Slow1337ex Nope , of course they fucked up.
Jesus, that ought to be the most cringeworthy thing I've ever written on this site. Well, it is one of my favorite parts in ASOIAF and I think the show absolutely didn't do it justice. If I would guess, because they weren't that interested in investing in a seemingly mundane fight scene, which is a thing that a good writer with attention to detail wouldn't do, like George hasn't done.
There was none of the mystique and surreal atmosphere, even though it happened on a vision. The knights looked as mundane and unnapealing as they could ever, and of course, because why not, removing an already pretty good dialogue in order to bother writing a new one that weren't even as good.
Oh well. If I would bother reflecting on why the show turned the way it did for every scene I would go mad, but I don't even care anymore. The show's over. The books aren't, and I'm interested in those...
I miss this excitement for GoT, good times 😊
This scene is GRRM at his best - the hints and story that are conveyed hidden behind the words.
A simple question like Ned asking why the Kingsguard were not with Rhaegar reveals so much given the context of what we know now; Rhaegar had sent these men to the tower of joy to protect his heir, the rightful King. The Kingsguard died undertaking a task which they were honour bound to do. Otherwise, not knowing this detail, Ned is right to question why they were away from the 'Battle of the Trident' and the prince they should have been protecting; a 'dishonour' in the eyes of honourable Ned Stark.
Its little tidbits like this which were hugely prevalent in the first book(s) which over time got a little watered. I think GoT shows what GRRM can do with a clear vision, unfortunately that seems to more 'roaming' (or cultivated to use his gardener analogy) in the later books. There seems to be a lot more placing things in the book which are 'cool' rather than overly important to the plot.
Disagree. Feast and Dance is GRRM's prime
Ned is going through so many emotions. It makes sense that he had sadness in his voice, the Kingsguard remained true.
Why is the war of the usurper not a movie yet! So much awesome.
S6 Woe to the fucking usurper confirmed
+Chrome Hokage Word 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
+Lautaro
Well, actually, for a reason beyond me that awesome, badass line was not included.
"Our knees do not bend easily" Ser Arthur Dayne was a fucking TRIPLE O.G
this was moment I really wanted in the show but sadly nothing...
03:29
A storm of rose petals blew across a blood-streaked sky, as blue as the eyes of death.
A subtle foreshadowing for the eyes of the Others maybe ?
These 3 are my favorite kingsguard just because of how they handled this whole situation. Loyal till the death.
Such a sad theme in the begining of this video. Epic and Perfect
Crazy what you can do with a narrator, some music and mashup of artwork, actual masterpiece
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Ser Willem is a good man and true
This is the most epic reading ever
I wish the narrator was assisted with a two more VAs. Maybe a younger man to voice the younger men and a female voice for Lyanna. Especially the one for Lyanna, the old man's voice is so jarring.
Other than that, I find myself coming back to the video for the solid narration and accompanied art. The transition to the show's Eddard waking up from a dream was another excellent choice.
Roy Dotrice was the narrator. It was taken from a passage of the audiobook, "A Game of Thrones".
Man they fucked it up in the show.
I love roy dotrice voice. So comforting
"The Kingsguard does not flee."
This video is better than the scene in the series.
they managed to fuck this scene up too, FFS it's unbelievable
love the way these kingsguard knew they were dead but fulfilled there vow to the end, my favourite 3 kingsguard members Aemon The Dragonknight, Ser Arthur Dayne and Ryam Redwyne. Worst 3 Jamie lannister the kingslayer ser Criston Cole the kingmaker and boros blunt the fat coward
“We were not there.” - Ser Gerald Hightower, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard and master Laconic speaker.
RIP Roy Dotrice ;(
Hard to believe that the greatest scene in the book series is finally coming to fruition next episode. PLEASE DO IT JUSTICE!!!! May 8th can't come soon enough!!!
Beautiful. Tragic. Stunning.
I am here after the show ending
wow such a great writing here not like season 8
Pure Poetry
"Our knees do not bend easily" ...."The Kingsguard does not flee". That's loyalty, ladies and gentlemen. The war was over. It was likely that the Usurper would have accepted them back into the Kingsguard had they wished this. But they chose their honor and their loyalty to the true King (at this point Viserys who was not yet a monster) over their comfort, or even their lives.
Their loyalty was to Rhaegar's heir Jon, not Viserys. That's why they were still guarding the Tower and not with Viserys on Dragonstone.
@@redmanofdoom937 - Well, no. They were still guarding the Tower, because they had been ordered to do so by Rhaegar, and no command had come from either King's Landing (from Aerys) or Dragonstone (from Rhaella as Viserys' regent) to countermand that order.
Even if we go by the show's version (we don't know the "real" story yet, because the book series isn't finished), the last legitimate King (Aerys) ascended Viserys to the status of heir apparent.
Meaning that on Aerys' death, the crown passed to Viserys, who was indeed proclaimed King on Dragonstone.
I was so hyped for this scene when I knew it was gonna be in the show. Expected it to be epic but instead we got some half arsed scene where they had a dumbed down fight, left out Gerald Hightower, and cut out most of the dialogue too...
+Crumbumification yea .. -.-
+Crumbumification Don't know what you're talking about, the scene in the show was awesome. Best fight scene they have done.
Auzzie015 it was dumbed down .. especially the dialog
+Kiciner Jems Well I liked it. May not have been as good as the books but it was in no way 'half-arsed' as the OP says.
+Auzzie015 better fight scene than the mountain vs Oberyn or Brienne vs the hound? No way.
I absolutely love Roy Dotrice!! his voice is so perfect for the audio books!!
fantastic work on music.. it really blended well.
They did Arthur Dayne justice but the rest of the scene seemed a bit rushed but easily best bit this season
This is awesome!!! The history before the war of the 5 kings is what makes me love this show even more.
+Willie Simmons Fuck the show.
+dagger doom Let him have his oppinion, geez.
TOWER OF JOY HYPE
Christ529057 aaaand they fucked it up
Why hasn't martin recieved oscar or nobel prize for literature yet?🥺 .what a masterpiece 💞
He has multiple Emmy, Hugo, and other awards for scifi and tv writers like him.
Goosebumps when he says "I promise Lya, I promise"
Sir Arthur Dayne is top badass. Hope we'll see a flashback with him in the series.
The music that is played along with the introduction of the kings guard(especially what/who they’re protecting)gives me cold chills.
can we all agree that grrm is the greatest fantasy author/writer of the 21st century..ok alright 👌
0:45 Interview With the Vampire score
Beautiful and haunting. Especially with the narration
This amazing scene was incredibly and utterly flat in the TV version. Rushed and ruined. And worst of all then cut right before the key moment just to drag this shit out longer because these fools don't know how to properly plan a season out.
tinote Right? There's no reason for Bloodraven to do that. Why is he showing it in the first place?
finally today we saw that scene in the tv series!!! though poorer than in the books, but still it was really cool!!!
All D&D had to do was follow this narration and put in some great fighting and it would have been awesome . Arthur Dayne didn’t even have the sword Dawn for god’s sake.
one of my favorite videos on youtube, please never delete it!
No Dragon will ever sit on the Iron Throne again.
***** Tywin didn't have the power to take the iron throne himself, and he knew it.
How could he when the Starks, Tullys, Arryns and Baratheons were aligned and marching on Kingslanding? Tywin has no blood claim to the throne while Robert did.
***** But Tywin has not claim to the Throne. He would have not legitimacy. Robert has a claim to the throne because he has Targaryen blood. Ned and Robert would not have yielded the throne to Tywin just because he held King's Landing.
***** Than you don't know Westerosi history very well. The Taragaryens married brothers to sisters, and had only been in Westeros for 300 years. When there was no other option available they would marry outside there house. But that has only happened 3 - 4 times. There's most definitely no bloodline connecting any Lannister with a Taragaryen.
Rutger Holtzer They married out a bit more than that i believe, at least five matches with house Velaryon, three with house Martell, the first Viserys was married to an Arryn and later Allicent Hightower, and Maegor had 8-9 wives, among them Jeyne Westerling, Alys Harroway and Tyanna of Pentos.
The intermarriages weren't exclusively brother-sister either: Rhaenyra's second husband was her uncle.
But indeed, no Lannister-Targaryen connection as of yet.
I would honestly pay to watch this. This is amazing! I can't believe how Dumb&Dumber managed to screw this all up
Tone202 these three were arguably the strongest knights in the kingdom; seven might not be enough to fight them. Ned almost died fighting Arthur and even returned his sword to the Dayne household.
Awwww shit.
OMG!!! can't wait for the tv show to show us how this fight really went down. gonna be EPIC
satisfiedo?
satisfied?
"Woe to the usurper if we had been."
I just love stories, especially fantasy stories with such a rich mythology and history as Ice and Fire. The only downside to it is that in some instances it almost makes you want to watch/read about the things that happened in the past rather than the story that is happening right now. How Aegon conquered Westeros, Robert's Rebellion and everything that led to it, the Greyjoy Rebellion ect. It all sounds so fascinating with so many interesting characters like Arthur Dayne or Raegar Targaryen who have been long dead at the start of the actual story.
Same thing happens to me with the Dance of the Dragons story arc. Honestly believe that a complete show could be made out of that storyline.
+Adrian Hamilton which part in particular
+Bashman11 the hole Dance man. Everything around it is epic. And just that feeling of watching those dragons destroying each other makes it even better than any storyline of ASOIAF
This is the "Luke, I am your father!" scene of ASoIaF/GoT.
+mori1bund Except that both are dead.
More like the "Luke I am not your father" scene of ASoIaF
mori1bund Nerd fun fact: Noone actual says " Luke, I am your father."
Vader says "No.. I am your father."
That's an insult.
Best thing to ever happen to me was to watch the show before the books. Otherwise I would have completely hated the HBO scene because damn this version is just soooooooooooooooooo goooooooooood!!! 😍😍😍