Are liberation movements losing power in SADC?

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  • @hgfku-tn6hb
    @hgfku-tn6hb 22 дні тому +97

    Problem with the so called liberation movements is entitlement and arrogance

    • @bathenebuthelezi1614
      @bathenebuthelezi1614 21 день тому +5

      They are self-serving and don't care about the citizens. ANC, EFF, MK and ZanuPF to mention the few.
      Botswana should teach other countries how to vote....Well done Botswana

    • @corteztt518
      @corteztt518 21 день тому +1

      They’re the worst, a lot of them are usually union calibre type of skillset. Nothing above that

    • @mthobisizondi2410
      @mthobisizondi2410 20 днів тому +2

      I’ve seen it not just in SADC but in many parts of the world, everytime liberation movement gain power they then become more like the former regimes
      I am thinking of Communist Party in the USSR under Stalin, you could barely see the difference between CP and Tsarist regime, I mean there was a difference but the people were still oppressed

  • @dumisaninxumalo7574
    @dumisaninxumalo7574 22 дні тому +79

    The correct question is are they really liberation movements or criminal organizations

  • @kabzaify
    @kabzaify 22 дні тому +29

    The BDP did not facilitate independence in Botswana. It was our traditional leaders and all our communities

  • @tetoem8755
    @tetoem8755 22 дні тому +14

    As a Motswana... This chosen analyst is on

  • @lewisndlovu7686
    @lewisndlovu7686 21 день тому +9

    Zimbabwe's ZanuPf is a different monster in the house.Zimbabweans have voted overwhelmingly against them on many occasions but results have been manipulated brazenly with no impunity at all.Liberation movements will go in these countries but that monster will stay-why-because they made it a priority that they conduct elections themselves under the banner of ZEC.They have captured all State institutions including the courts so that all disgruntled politicians approaching them will hit a hard rock.We congratulate these democracies that value the voice of their people.We cherish that as Zimbabweans.Weldone Batswana.You are a true democracy.

    • @mthobisizondi2410
      @mthobisizondi2410 20 днів тому

      Of which in most part there’s nothing wrong about that
      There’s nothing wrong about wanting to government forever as a party, because if you have economical development plans you don’t want to implement it and then in 5 years time someone else comes and change or reverse what you were starting. Think about Singapore if they had an opposition perhaps it could’ve been difficult to get to where they are
      But ke in the case of SADC countries and especially ZANU PF it’s wrong since they don’t seem to be interested about developing their economies

    • @Widzo3.3
      @Widzo3.3 20 днів тому

      God is watching. It will end

  • @ferdinadkakuni6742
    @ferdinadkakuni6742 21 день тому +9

    namibian swapo party days are numbered we will vote them out too they have been in power for 30 years and have become ignorant to the youths cry's for opportunity

  • @vantemajika1287
    @vantemajika1287 22 дні тому +6

    Mr. Mdunge is very passionate, I enjoyed listening to his analysis.

  • @tshephokaumbo
    @tshephokaumbo 18 днів тому

    A very insightful piece from your analyst...one love Botswana

  • @kuyandakala4623
    @kuyandakala4623 20 днів тому

    Very insightful analysis, Mr Mdunge

  • @thembazwane1340
    @thembazwane1340 21 день тому +9

    the writing is on the wall for "Liberation movements"... youth have different challenges and the old guard is still stuck in the past

    • @thatguyozzy8681
      @thatguyozzy8681 21 день тому

      Liberation movements' influence is weaker than ever. Some countries may retain power through hook or crook but their political influence will die out.

  • @mkvl
    @mkvl 22 дні тому +19

    Sir Seretse Khama fought for most of our independences not for it to be looted by thieves.

    • @tetoem8755
      @tetoem8755 22 дні тому +2

      Don't forget they sold tati land for wine

    • @corteztt518
      @corteztt518 21 день тому +1

      Botswana sought British protection and didn’t need any liberation

    • @mkvl
      @mkvl 21 день тому

      @@tetoem8755 I have a drinking problem too😂 FYI I was born and raised in that area I don't mean to undermine your plight, were are a democracy your views are valid homeboy

    • @mkvl
      @mkvl 21 день тому +1

      @@corteztt518 Also independence has multiple definitions, e.g. my wife is an independent woman [that says nothing about been held captive]. But it is still valid definition, please don't be a history nor english teacher [or god forbid a science teacher]. FYI by thieves I meant Slumber and Co. Masisi ene was just a delusional idiot who was been used.

  • @Thelandissue
    @Thelandissue 22 дні тому +10

    Motsetsi oja ka letsogo ko Botswana. Next to go is ZANU PF, SWAPO and ANC.

    • @tauraidube
      @tauraidube 21 день тому +1

      No one likes zanu ...but that one is elephant in the room...we don't talk here go closer then u will feel the heat😂

    • @georgeowuor146
      @georgeowuor146 21 день тому

      CCM in Tanzania too

  • @donaldlouwe3939
    @donaldlouwe3939 22 дні тому +15

    The BDP is not a liberation party because Botswana was never colonized. In the late 1800s, the Boers wanted to make Botswana part of SA, so 3 Botswana chiefs approached Britain for protection. The Brits agreed and in 1966 Botswana requested independence and it was granted.

    • @johntaubolela4261
      @johntaubolela4261 22 дні тому +4

      Botswana was colonised by Britain..close chapter

    • @khaltsharivist365
      @khaltsharivist365 22 дні тому +9

      A protectorate is still a colony. Had the British discovered diamonds before proposal of self governing that would have been denied. Fact is post WW2 the British were handing over all the colonies which they couldn’t afford to keep or had little extraction value…Malawi & Zambia included. Zimbabwe was a settler colony & hence UDI to stop the handover.

    • @NyatshaneKAbale
      @NyatshaneKAbale 22 дні тому +2

      ​@johntaubolela4261 Botswana was a British protectorate not a colony go do your research

    • @juleskhux8446
      @juleskhux8446 21 день тому +1

      ​@@johntaubolela4261bw was a protectorate

    • @simbarashenyamajiwa3297
      @simbarashenyamajiwa3297 21 день тому +1

      What is liberation baba ?

  • @tirivanganimarumbei7470
    @tirivanganimarumbei7470 22 дні тому +18

    In Mozambique people are dying now.

    • @blackrhythmrecords8691
      @blackrhythmrecords8691 22 дні тому

      Yhoo that's so bad mmm bed gavernance😢

    • @mkvl
      @mkvl 22 дні тому +6

      From Botswana, I am ready to put my boots on and leave my job to be a Reserve Military personnel to fight for the rights of free people. What they will never tell you is the guy we ousted wanted to help the Mozambiqian Regime as he did in Zimbabwe and attempted with Namibia. The liberation guys have a pact of greed and selfishness. We will fight for our fellow brothers elsewhere in Southern Africa as my forefathers done before against colonization

    • @pablocharlie
      @pablocharlie 22 дні тому +1

      The US doesn’t allow countries to behave that way to its citizens, Russia and China do, Mozambique has chosen that path now they must feel the consequences

    • @silaskhalishwayo
      @silaskhalishwayo 22 дні тому +4

      ​@@pablocharlie I'm sure you don't know politics 😂😂😂America is king of coupe 😂😂😂

    • @pablocharlie
      @pablocharlie 22 дні тому +1

      @@silaskhalishwayo Yea alright keep watching conspiracy theories videos meanwhile in the real world its all getting down to business marxist 😂

  • @felixchauraya1870
    @felixchauraya1870 22 дні тому +7

    They have been loosing power but are in power due to riggings

  • @Nile_H95
    @Nile_H95 21 день тому +4

    Namibia must do the same, it is a healthy transition

  • @mtetelelimrwetyana2002
    @mtetelelimrwetyana2002 21 день тому +2

    All of them must go, they disappointed our fathers who died for this

  • @suzannejansevanrensburg4057
    @suzannejansevanrensburg4057 22 дні тому +5

    Universities need to be interconnected with local businesses to host recruitment fairs/job fairs for young people to be employed. The liberated parties can start there. We get degrees and can't do anything with it, that's why we all swarm overseas for opportunities. This is a great video.

    • @anthonytesla8382
      @anthonytesla8382 21 день тому +1

      Actually universities do invite local businesses for recruitment fairs. But those businesses can only employ 1% of the graduates.

    • @suzannejansevanrensburg4057
      @suzannejansevanrensburg4057 19 днів тому

      @@anthonytesla8382 I studied in the U.S. and thought the experience was fantastic. I’ve never heard any of my friends in South Africa mention events like this happening at their universities. It would be great if something similar could become a larger annual event for various fields of study, involving more businesses and participants. It has been very hard for me to find a job in SA. I'm heading back to China in a month. I hope all the best for our continent. I would like to live here at some point.

    • @anthonytesla8382
      @anthonytesla8382 19 днів тому

      @@suzannejansevanrensburg4057 I studied in the US as well for undergrad, I was admitted to and graduated from Princeton after finishing matric here at home. Then masters at UCT.
      The university career fairs and career oriented opportunities/clubs at both universities were pretty similar. The difference is in networking and connections. People that study overseas, especially at ivy leagues, tend to already have connections and wealthy backgrounds so it is easier for them to get jobs because they already know or are related to people in companies. Many classmates I went to Princeton with did their own tech startups as well, or inherited family businesses.
      South African universities don't have the same gatekeeping/elitism or separation of education by social class. So too many people graduate and there isn't enough demand for all those people in the workforce.

    • @anthonytesla8382
      @anthonytesla8382 19 днів тому

      @@suzannejansevanrensburg4057 I wish you all the best in China. I empathize with your difficult situation.

    • @suzannejansevanrensburg4057
      @suzannejansevanrensburg4057 19 днів тому +1

      @@anthonytesla8382 South Africans always find a solution. I always come home to fill up on the great food before I go haha Thank you so much! Have a great one!

  • @linthexplorer814
    @linthexplorer814 20 днів тому +1

    Even our opposition leader now newly elected president was not expecting to win in the way that he did especially given the numbers in which he won by.. we hope that change will be felt.

  • @entledekoker9490
    @entledekoker9490 21 день тому +2

    You see ama2000 fear nothing what we could not change in Botswana for so many years,AMA2000 came in large numbers and voted with full force.

  • @alexmodumo7838
    @alexmodumo7838 21 день тому +5

    Botswana was a Protectorate not a Colony learn the difference between the two BDP was not a Liberation movement

  • @gonetiroyamodimo9486
    @gonetiroyamodimo9486 22 дні тому +10

    Generation Z is very woke, they dont play when it comes to their future

  • @LawrenceMolai
    @LawrenceMolai 21 день тому +2

    You should rather be asking: have the reasons that led to the formation of liberation movements been addressed or disappeared?

  • @khaltsharivist365
    @khaltsharivist365 22 дні тому +4

    Ruining parties become so entitled and arrogant. May the loss of power long continue! “Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason.” Unknown.

  • @foregivenessmanika1600
    @foregivenessmanika1600 21 день тому +3

    Liberation movements did not convert the people's aspirations in most cases became the problem .corruption incompetence .

  • @tirivanganimarumbei7470
    @tirivanganimarumbei7470 22 дні тому +9

    They must loose. What benefit have they brought except the spirit of entitlement?

  • @tirivanganimarumbei7470
    @tirivanganimarumbei7470 22 дні тому +2

    Vision and policy

  • @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO
    @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO 21 день тому +2

    Except for Zanu PF and Mozambique

  • @vusidumisanimiya994
    @vusidumisanimiya994 22 дні тому +6

    Arrogance in those liberation movement has made people to lose confidence in them here in Southern Africa.Yonke into ihambe iphele

  • @SnapFlash
    @SnapFlash 21 день тому

    Interesting analysis..

  • @sayinimatunya3212
    @sayinimatunya3212 22 дні тому +4

    Is BDP a liberation movement. Avoid equating Zimbabwe which went through a protracted struggle with a protectorate .

    • @rickyrebaone207
      @rickyrebaone207 22 дні тому +1

      I doesn't mean that u don't need change!

    • @josephshonga178
      @josephshonga178 21 день тому +1

      Define Liberation movement and does one have to shed blood to qualify?

    • @amphcommunications5423
      @amphcommunications5423 21 день тому +1

      ​@@josephshonga178 it's a different conversation when talking to people who lost family members in a liberation struggle let's be sensitive as a people. SELF HATE IS REAL.

    • @josephshonga178
      @josephshonga178 21 день тому

      @@amphcommunications5423 Am not insensitive to the struggles, pain and loss of lives of those who fought the freedom of their countries. All I want to establish is why you say BDP is not a liberation party; to the Motswana who was taxed heavily in rural Bechuanaland and had no option but to go and eke out a living in the mines and farms of Apartheid South Africa because the British had not developed industries for him to work from within; to that Motswana, the BDP liberated him, albeit done through negotiation, it's still a Liberator.

    • @TshumuKokgalagadi
      @TshumuKokgalagadi 20 днів тому

      ​@@amphcommunications5423Enjoy your zanu government and we will enjoy our new government, liberation or not.

  • @Tweeezzy
    @Tweeezzy 21 день тому

    Okay considering the mention of the BDP as a 'liberation movement' is just inaccurate. We should consider the Bechuanaland Protectorate established, 1885, March 31st by The UK.

  • @KITSO-MAKWATI
    @KITSO-MAKWATI 22 дні тому +2

    BDP is and was not a liberation movement.
    That needs to be corrected.

  • @samuelngirazi9636
    @samuelngirazi9636 19 днів тому

    They lost already especially in Zimbabwe but they are using army to remain in power

  • @KoketsoMalepa
    @KoketsoMalepa 21 день тому +1

    BDP was not a liberation party! Idk where these people get this from

  • @mosesMongale-d6d
    @mosesMongale-d6d 21 день тому +2

    Not in Zimbabwe...

    • @bathenebuthelezi1614
      @bathenebuthelezi1614 21 день тому

      Zimbabweans are a big problem. They are busy voting in Mozambique and busy protesting in South Africa. Most ZEP holders didn't wanna go to Zimbabwean and vote ZanuPF out of power.
      And South African must also learn from Botswana. This liberation parties are evil and self-serving. They care about power

    • @Madzivas
      @Madzivas 21 день тому

      😂😂😂 you'll only understand when u register to vote in your district then when its time to vote you don't find ypur name or its moved to a certain area you got no idea how it got there​@@bathenebuthelezi1614

  • @eloisnaraidoo7339
    @eloisnaraidoo7339 20 днів тому

    Julius S Malema, whether you like it or not, he WILL become President of South Africa. It is Destiny. The EFF setback after this election Wlll be their biggest comeback come next election. For people to think the EFF is down, they better think again. EFF currently is in a very unique position.

  • @stephaniejones7438
    @stephaniejones7438 21 день тому

    These so called political analysts can not just say old people retire and let the young people lead.Set an age limit simple

  • @sifisomolokwane5075
    @sifisomolokwane5075 21 день тому

    Lets hope the Batswana benefit from the mineral resources in their country.

  • @InfiniteMusicLive
    @InfiniteMusicLive 21 день тому

    For the record, there was never a liberation movement in Botswana. Yes the BDP is a party of old, but not a liberation movement. Get that correct.

  • @samuelngirazi9636
    @samuelngirazi9636 19 днів тому

    Masisi lost it when he went after Khama

  • @RubenMtuwaMungu-bz8ee
    @RubenMtuwaMungu-bz8ee 21 день тому

    Time for Tanzania CCM to go

  • @buyaza8918
    @buyaza8918 22 дні тому +4

    They must all lose ALL! unpatriotic and self centred people

  • @Papito_ZA
    @Papito_ZA 21 день тому +1

    Mokgatlho wa kgololosego o tserwe ka dikgoka ke makoko a sepolotiki

  • @ThembaCindi-yy7yo
    @ThembaCindi-yy7yo 21 день тому

    New Era New Generation.Its all about Time.Old generation got no choice because nature itself says it enough.An inevitable situation.

  • @onkemetaolo2463
    @onkemetaolo2463 19 днів тому

    Your analyst seems to not have done his research about Botswana or rather does not talk about it much. The only thing he was detailed about is President Advocate Duma Boko's age
    All i hear is general analysis which we all know, which he keeps on saying "it spreads across southern Africa" without giving details.

  • @fampiemesangare913
    @fampiemesangare913 22 дні тому +1

    version of ZANU’pf late Robert g 3:23 3:23 Mugabe is the exemple to follow by SA

  • @Roman99492
    @Roman99492 21 день тому

    Botswna's BDP was never a liberation movement, get your FACTS right

  • @amphcommunications5423
    @amphcommunications5423 21 день тому

    Which African country is prosperous if Botswana is not can someone school me please. Employment, Poverty, Technology etc....

  • @kagonyondo8897
    @kagonyondo8897 21 день тому

    What did bdp do to liberate batswana?

  • @H3321KG
    @H3321KG 21 день тому

    Zan-gu, Mapa, Pany, A-maga

  • @MatthewManzi
    @MatthewManzi 22 дні тому

    Vakapiwa nani title iyoyo

  • @johntaubolela4261
    @johntaubolela4261 22 дні тому +1

    They gonna loosea all in Africa...😂😂

  • @Adkotera3388
    @Adkotera3388 21 день тому +2

    We still got Zanu Pf as the biggest elephant in the room ., Swapo nd Frelimo as well.
    Bt i believe the net slowly closing in for them., their time is up
    Their arrogance nd corruption is upsetting citizen daily

  • @EssumAtakora-Amaniampong
    @EssumAtakora-Amaniampong 22 дні тому +1

    Botswana is not a revolutionary government.

    • @TshumuKokgalagadi
      @TshumuKokgalagadi 22 дні тому +7

      As if it's a flex,what has your revolutionary parties done for you.

    • @sokopinions
      @sokopinions 21 день тому

      @@TshumuKokgalagadi we own our land and at least we can select things owned by us, unlike those guys who are still under economic oppression. please tell us how is life under 30%+ unemployment

    • @TshumuKokgalagadi
      @TshumuKokgalagadi 21 день тому

      @sokopinions Land is free here both residential and farm as for unemployment,you don't see us running to white countries cause we know we will solve it ourselves and we not bothering you in your land.Hiw hard is it to mind your own business?

  • @ndabenhlesibonelo4010
    @ndabenhlesibonelo4010 21 день тому

    Abelungu banamandla

    • @ZwaneZB
      @ZwaneZB 21 день тому

      Imali lebenza babenamandla

    • @ndabenhlesibonelo4010
      @ndabenhlesibonelo4010 21 день тому

      @ZwaneZB akugcini lapho nje mnewethu bona banekhaya emazweni abo elingakaze laphazamiseka ezinhlelweni zalo nakwizimpande zalo

    • @ZwaneZB
      @ZwaneZB 21 день тому +1

      ​@@ndabenhlesibonelo4010izinsuku zabo sezibaliwe kuyakhanya kancane kwabanye abamnyama 2029 zobona okunye nala eSA uma sekuhambe lendoda ekhona. Kodwa bazozama ukufaka enye ipuppet but angeke besalunga black people will rise and unite

  • @colinpp123
    @colinpp123 22 дні тому +2

    liberation movements ? liberating who the politicians not the people ?

  • @Incognitoblue
    @Incognitoblue 18 днів тому

    BDP is not and was not a liberation movement or party. Do a bit of research on Botswana before making such statements.

  • @mandlenkosishabalala8890
    @mandlenkosishabalala8890 21 день тому

    The ANC is the only liberation Movement that is going to survive whatever storm that is coming its way. Our glorious Movement is on its way to Renewal never than before. We are going to prove detractors and naysayers wrong . Viva ANC viva! Amandla!!

  • @mazibukomail
    @mazibukomail 22 дні тому +2

    Not really, Frelimo just won power A FEW WEEKS AGO with 70% of the vote, SWAPO isn't going ANC will remain at the centre of politics, a divided opposition cannot dethrone Zanu-PF, Chama Cha Mapinduzi also will be around still and looking stronger than ever. So how they analyst can talk of a refection of liberation movements when FRELIMO just won is beyond me.

    • @sebatolle8979
      @sebatolle8979 22 дні тому +1

      frelimo just “won” power

    • @YorkenJakarasi
      @YorkenJakarasi 22 дні тому +2

      Ooooh man you are so gullible why are you saying frelkmo yet there is protesters in Mozambique

    • @sayinimatunya3212
      @sayinimatunya3212 22 дні тому

      Protesting does not imply an opposition has won an election. Trump lost in the states and protested but that never legitimized his status quo

    • @W8rrfsdY73
      @W8rrfsdY73 21 день тому

      They didn’t win tho… are you not watching the news? The country has been shut down for 1 week

    • @kalomboC
      @kalomboC 21 день тому +1

      Add to that, the MPLA in Angola