My " little, tiny puppy" at 4 months of age weighed 45.5 pounds! She was even larger than any of the males! She is now 6 months old and is about 28 inches at her shoulder. I'll find out her weight when she gets spayed soon. She is learning some about the goats, but since I lost my almost 10 year old border collie who was going to train her, I have to leave her on a long chain so she doesn't chase the goats. Since she was the last puppy in the litter to be picked up, she got a lot more attention from the breeders, so she needs extra help with focusing on the goats instead of me. Since it's just her, the goats and me, it's going to take a little longer for her to learn what is allowed and not allowed. But she is learning, slowly, and she and I are both just a little hard-headed! By the size of her paws, she will be larger than normal - up to 130 pounds, so teaching her not to jump on me is a major goal.
Our Great Pyrenees quickly grew to 99 pounds then stopped for a long while (my wife said that was when his brain was growing lol) then grew gradually to 140 his mature weight all muscle no fat. His puppy brain didn’t flip the switch until about 21/2 years. He has been the best behaved dog imaginable. Patience !
Even though I didn't like your comment about "that side of the world" Turkey not having enough veterinarians to take care of dogs, which is not totally correct, I admire what you do as a trainer and tutor. Keep up the good work sir.
My 4 month old female was 45.5 pounds! She is now 6 months old, stands 28 inches at her shoulder, and I'll get the weight when she goes to the vet soon to be spayed. The local animal control officer was at the vet with kittens when I brought her in, and he estimated by the size of her paws that she may be about 130 pounds when mature!
Adopted a rescue pup from a local shelter that was labeled GSD/Newf mix. Although I'm used to pittys, high drive, athletic, and fun to train dogs, I thought the mixture of the trainable GSD and the more laid back Newf would make a good combination because I didn't want a go go! Dog this time around. Well, I ended up with an Anatolian/Pyr mix. He's 14 months old and has been difficult to train. We did do about 5 months of puppy/level training, he did well but regressed at adolescence. He definitely needs shorter sessions like you say but also chooses if he's going to participate. His biggest hiccup is over excitement (not fear or agression based, pure excitement) to greet people and other dogs. High reward treats or toys do not distract him. I think I'm way in over my head for sure.
What a nice looking pup, my dog is near 3/4th anatolian shepard 33% kangal ,he is such an awesome LGD ,keeps the cows safe, havent lost a calf sence we have had him guarding the cows ,hes spot on with his guarding , got him at 8 weeks old, he does not hesitate in anyway when it comes to prrators, has killed 4 coyotes ,we have been coyote free sence he was 18 months old ,actually killed his first coyote just before 6 months old, hes so very independent ,loves his job of guarding ,hes totally fearless, such a powerful dog, he was 4 years old in june of this year, such a big boy, 170 pounds , hes all heart and so confident , would die protecting this propery and surving his duty. Love the bold and fearless powerful anatolian shepard, this was a nice video👍👍
i just got an 8 week anatolian mixed with meremma. i will keep all of this in mind. i can see that uncle stonnie really knows what he is talking about, the proof is in the pudding. i will keep watching and keep learning
I learned all I needed to train my dog from this dude right here 😎 I even taught her how to do “puppy dance” and to give me a kiss before she eats 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you need tons of patience folks..your voice tone carry a lot of weight so speak lovingly and kindly and you’ll see amazing rewards!! Thanks Stoney!! You are outstanding! You need a TV show 😉🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
ASDs are fantastic dogs!! Our ASD pup is now 16 weeks, and most of his training has come from observing our other dogs. His first 2 weeks with us was spent learning his name and to come when called, while watching group training sessions, and individual sessions. When I did his first 10 minute individual session, he sat the first time asked. He went into a down the second time asked. He will shake...and learned to sit up...this one he learned from watching the chihuahua. He’s not necessarily the most graceful, but he really is quite athletic. That’s good, since our pack of farm dogs does include Border Collies. Ultimately, his job will be watch over our horses and chickens. He knows who belongs here, and will alert to their arrival, then lay quietly. I know many people in the LGD community does not agree with how many people raise these dogs, and say that these dogs cannot find happiness in a job that “requires” regular human contact. I love that you did this video!! I hope that you will do more with this guy...or even with other LGD breeds!
How's your dog doing? We've had our ASD for a week and she is doing great so far. Good at walking by our 3rd time. Sit is all we have down, almost have stay. She is great and everything we hoped she would be. Surprisingly loves being inside with us.
@@shaunr5450 hi! Congratulations on your new puppy! It's been a great journey for us, and hope you experience the same. My pup is now about a year and a half old. We taught him basic obedience and socialized him to no end. This has not hindered his instinct to guard our farm critters. By the time Tango turned 6 months old, he was 100% bird safe. This, I've been told, is nearly never done. I don't know. I will say, when he was 9 months old, we did almost lose him when a neighbor's mammoth jack came in and was trying to attack our horses. Thankfully, we have an amazing vet team! A few months after this, a coyote den on an adjoining farm was cleaned out. Tango knows his job, and he does it very well. Yet, I can load him in my truck, and take him with me for weekly feed, or go to a Livestock sale, and you'd never even see a hint of his "other side". The intelligence of these guardians will never cease to amaze me. They are bred to be intelligent, yes. They are bred to be able to tell the difference between a threat or not a threat, yes. These qualities also help these dogs to become (almost) anything that you could imagine them being. The only downfall that Tango has...if he knows there is a human baby or young child, he will find them, and try to claim them as his own. This, I find intriguing. My "baby" is almost 20 years old. He has never had exposure or experience with young children or babies. But he is the biggest, most gentle mush. I could go on and on about him, and all he has brought to our lives. I will add that I found a great training group on Facebook (pm me for the name). They've been a well of great information, support, and all round help. I haven't needed them too much for Tango, but heavily rely on them, as we raise and train Tango's partner. A great pyrenees. She's a whole different dog, all round. Keep me posted, if you don't mind, on how things are going with your new pup!
@@FullerAnn thank you for the reply, very helpful. We are only on a 1/4 acre hoping to move to an acre after all this virus stuff is over with. She will never be a working dog so we are socializing as much as possible. We started out ahead of the game as she is super sweet and rolls over for belly rubs all day. Hard to find much info about raising them as companions and not working dogs but piecing it together with what we can find. She accepted our older dog immediately and is ridiculously sweet with our girls who are 6 and 3. We are definitely off to a good start. Hoping the dog parks open soon so we can go as much as possible. Idk how to direct message here sorry. Please message me or tell me how to message as we would love that Facebook group. We are in love with these dogs. Tempted to get another one so they can get each other's energy out because our older dog is not very playful these days. The extra work of a second one could be worth it if they can tire each other out, but gonna wait a little bit to make that big decision.
@@shaunr5450 mmm...can't seem to figure out how to pm. Used to be able to... If you have FB, search Farei Kennels and LGD training & education group. Be sure to answer all of the questions, before submitting the join request. After you've been accepted, be sure to read pinned post and the files. It's a great place, lots of real time help and info. It can be a bit Blunt, but that can be a good thing for people like me (I'm very literal). I'm not trying to take away from this trainer...he's awesome at what he does, and how he breaks stuff down. Sometimes it's good to have someone who can answer questions immediately. The Farei group is able to do this :) Sounds like you're on a great start, with your puppy. May I suggest waiting to get another pup until this one has very little, to no, corrections?! These dogs tend to learn from other dogs a bit easier than some other breeds. I hope to "see" you in the group!
Your videos are great! I am so excited to see an Anatolian in the mix! Haha...doing what Anatolians do! I love the flexible attitude of your training. I have noticed that mine also requires short frequent training sessions and always a positive approach. Butch may look goofy but he knows whats going on. LOL...
Oh my gosh he’s gorgeous! Really excellent tips Stonnie, I think it’s really important that people understand this. To the untrained eye, he looks fully grown. To me, he looks like a big clumsy baby. It’s important people take into account the mental age of the dog, and the amount of physical and mental stimulation they can handle in one day. Great video! 😁
These Anatolian Shepard Dogs are often totally on their own in the mountains with the herd. The farmer brings sheeps and dogs up for spring and summer and leaves them there. The Kangals protect and guide the sheep . So these Kangals are very independent dogs and not easy to handle at all.
Nice to see this, I will be getting an anatolian/pyrenees mix pup soon. He will be a working LGD but he will also be trained and socialized. They're beautiful, powerful and intelligent dogs!
What a gorgeous big boy. We put a ton of money into our nutrients & supplements for our pyre since we're planning on getting a few litters from her long term. I CANNOT FATHOM how much you have to put into making sure a big male like Butchey grows to his potential.
This is a really great tip. This really relates to my dog as my Doberman is not as mature as he looks. In fact he is a big baby. Thank you! Now I’m going to do more research on my dog to improve our training
Thank you so much! I have just watched this and your pyrenees videos. You are amazing. We just got a pyrenees anatolian mix 8 week pup and your videos have been our favorite on how to work/train her. And so glad I am not the only one who calls my beasties "nerds".
Totally agree with your statement, in fact some of the larger breeds tend to mature much slower than the smaller ones. Excellent video once again 👍 👍 👍
Great advice here. I've got an Aussie/Anatolian mix who's 14 weeks, and it seems as his temperament and mental growth is taking from he Anatolian. Two totally different ways of training and there isn't much info on the Anatolians in comparison to the Aussies, so this was great.
Man I wish I could learn and train with you for like a month. I occasionally do work with dogs and have for some time, but I have learned so much more in following you on here, and you've really changed a lot with me in my methods I use with dogs. I have not pursued it yet, but I intend to pursue training as a full time work in the near future.
we had a german shorthair/lab mix that would run for hours fetching frisbees in her prime and never seemed to tire. It was incredible. She tired me out when she was 2-5 years old. She would crash hard though after the dog park. These LGD's are so interesting to me
Stonnie, this is a great video! We are going through the same thing right now. Our GSD turned 5 months old Sept. 14 and right now he's 70 pounds already! It's easy to look at him and see a more mature dog, but he is a big, loppy baby whose hormones are rapidly changing and the outbursts that accompany that are perfectly normal....those crazy energy spurts and now with the fact that they love to try to assert themselves! I am still dealing with a dog that likes to jump up occasionally when he gets excited and of course no one welcomes that....tough to tell a stranger to please not pet the dog until there is 4 on the floor or even ask them to turn around and just ignore him (we won't acknowledge him when he jumps up at all). I love your advice on having multiple SHORT training sessions per day due to the level of maturity with the large breed dogs. One minute, we have a very chill, seemingly mature dog and the next, I have dog running circles around me acting like a complete nut! Ahhhh.....puppyhood! Thanks for all your magnificent tips Stonnie....don't think I could have done it without you. Just curious if you will (or have had) a segment that addresses resource guarding with food. After many male dogs, this is the first guy that has an issue and our plan has been to just leave him alone when he eats and occasionally toss a higher value treat his way. For bones, we're doing trade up....so far, so good. He is so much more relaxed and hoping that this will fade or be eliminated. He's good with toys. I have a feeling we will have to be careful for life, but curious how you manage this. Thanks again :-)
I wonder about this too. I know that Stonnie holds back 1/2 the rations for a pup and the lure is his own puppy food in the beginning. He uses different value treats too for higher distraction like going to the farm store for supplies. So perhaps hand feeding promotes politeness, and discouraged guarding. I’m not sure. ... There are lots of past videos that address fading the lure and using low voice and treats for commands, or high voice and no treats for fun stuff, because these are self rewarding. Look at old vids you will find these topics. I know a ton af people have asked what is the secret treat that makes the dogs behave and it’s basicslly hungry puppy and competition for treats and attention. Having multiple dogs can be s huge advantage in the right hands. I liked your detailed post. Good questions.
Almost forgot! There’s a video where Stonnie is taking a dog out and about to a strip mall and he’s addressing how to deal with people that want to pet your dog. Look for that one. It was a really good video.
Thank you very much Kim for your very thoughtful post! I really do appreciate it! I have done a little hand feeding so my scent is in his food, too. I like your info about the "different value treats" and the "high/low voice". When training him, I do use a low voice of authority...easy for a Shepherd to want to control the situation otherwise and I am walking a line with him. Now Baron is just shy of 8 months old and a real handful!! He does like food rewards, too, but does his best when there is play in it for him. I have been going through his full battery of commands using his ball and he'll do anything for it. He has different phases and behaviors for each stage of development and they seem to almost change by the day! Just when we thought the jumping was done, now he has decided to try to turn up the volume when he is excited and caught me off-guard this week. Tried to run fast under my legs while he was running back and forth through the house like a nut, but "caught me" and sent me flying backwards into our back screen door. Thankfully I wasn't hurt nor was he trying to hurt me, but these are the behaviors that he is immediately going on a leash for until he calms down again as I don't want to see anyone hurt. He is now well over 80 pounds....a moose in training with fluctuating hormones! He is otherwise a love and will practically kiss your face off, but wants to be the king around here and simply can't be. We are the king and queen of this house and we simply have to be more stubborn than he is (and he is pretty darn stubborn)!! :-)
Thank you very much Kim!! I have had Baron to many stores and the feed store is his favorite. He behaves quite well in public really and even better than at home....makes me proud of him. However, I am just stunned by the number of people that will just stick their face right in his. At the Home Depot this week (where they now know him), one lady asked if she could pet the dog. I said "yes". She immediately got on her knees and offered her face for a tongue wash. I don't think I would be so apt to push my face into a strange dog's face like that, but the world sure is full of animal lovers! To date, I have actually encouraged his friendliness because I want a really good canine citizen that loves people. He already comes from a long line of protection dogs and already starting to show us that he will guard naturally. I will have to look for that video, too. Thanks again Kim :-)
Uncle Stonnie I loved this video of yours. Simply great! No ramblings. I came away having great respect for you n your knowledge about dogs and be able to communicate that to me v easily. And..wait..it was short n sweet! What’s not nice about that! 2 thumbs up!
Thanks for featuring an Anatolian Stonny. I have got my Anatolian right here. I did notice he was a little slower to learn basic commands in his dog training class. Also, he is less likely to please because he is bred to be an independent thinker. He is now 8.5 months, and I see some more maturity. We have a few goats for him to watch. He is pretty smart and sometimes seems bored. How can I challenge his intelligence and stamina considering his size and breed type?
I got an Anatolian shepherd puppy recently, he’s now around 15 weeks old now, and I was wondering if you had any tips for diets and feed for them. Thanks, Great Vid!
I've come to find that anatolian shepherds r actually very athletic, they just don't want to jump when anyone may ask. I know bc I have an anatolian shepherd. When he was 4 months with 0 training Jumped over a log that was around 4 feet high with ease. First time ever jumping over anything. When I went to get him to step over a stick, he wasn't moving lol. He can do it now on command yet he is enthusiastic about it lol. They just don't wanna please people the way other dogs were bred to. Yet they r very much so athletic. I gotta get an 8 feet fence bc of how high he jumps lol. Overall I love this video though
I know with 47 years behind you..even you can Change! Your dogs do! You see it & I see it! KISS principle. And..wait I need to thank Elia the cameraman..even your wife does great with the camera. I like it a lot. I’m not changing the channel! You’re going to have to change man! Lol
Thanks for sharing. I just need mine to respect the horses next door. One does, 1 doesn't. The none verbal doesn't give a hoot about the horses or the baby chicks. The verbal dog, right now chases. We're working on that. Slowly. The dogs do respect the fence. More than the Martingale
The Department of Defense Military Working Dog Center of Excellence at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas would do well to spend a few hours in consultation with this trainer. The utility of military working dogs does not begin and end with the Belgian Malanois.
i'm fostering an 8wk old Anatolian and would love to know what is age appropriate for him. Also, he's in a city rescue, so probably will not have a farm job. What can i do to help him adjust for his city life?
Stoney - this great video especially when put in the context of your other videos. I've seen other videos of yours that have emphasized the importance of knowing the strengths and limitations of the breed you're working with. Could you recommend some references or resources that might outline these breed differences and how the breeds generally develop? You also mentioned "pattern cognizant" in reference to behavior. I think I understand what you mean but I'm not sure. Any recommendations where I could learn more? It would seem that you could use general traits of your breed to initially tailor your training then tune it to the specific dog. Specifically I'm a Lab guy so, of course, any info on Labs interests me the most. Thanks again.
If I could have pressed ‘love’ for this comment I would have. This is so crutial! Have you ever wondered why the ‘Small Challenges’ course never changes? Or why in that movie if the Afghan vet that adopted her dog, the training was so repetitive on a set course? I didn’t get it. I actually fought it and tried to switch it up so the dog would not get bored. Then this video hit and Stonnie dropped a golden nugget. And finally I get it. It’s pattern recognition. PATTERN RECOGNIZANCE. I think it must be pattern recognition and learning in dogs. So apparently some breeds like Labs and GSDs and Malinois, etc have this capability and sone don’t. I have no clue which ones don’t. But I will never change up my mini version of Stonnie’s small challenges course again. And I will continue practicing it several times a day with tons of praise and reward.
davidreinecker.com/dog-behavior/pattern-recognition-and-learning-in-dogs David Reinecker explains it. I think this is what Stonnie is talking about but I’m not sure. Any thoughts on this? I, like you, know it’s important.
Do you have any videos working with red zone dogs or dogs with really bad issues?? Would love to see how you handle those cases, I like to see how different trainers do things. I was skimming through your videos and can't find any, I'll keep going down further to see if I find any or do you have a separate channel for those?
i have an anatolian cross with a black n tan hound. hard headed. independent and will ignore any commands not on the leash. oh, did i mention she was hard headed?
How can I get dog to walk properly on leash? The second we get outside he's trying to bolt. He's a big Golden Doodle, almost a yr old and he's always grabbing stuff off the counter and place mats off table. HE'S EXHAUSTING!!! Children are starting to hate him
He is excited when he gets outside and has to release his accumulated energy from staying home. Some people like that kind of dogs. Maybe not so right for your type. Dogs need a lot of work before they understand your commands. My dog is getting a little better as he gets older.
Stonnie has a video where he retrains a busy mom’s big strong dog. (Maybe it was an Airedale or an Afghan Hound, I don’t recall). This dog was too strong for Mom so he used a leading device for the dog called a Gentle Leader. WARNING: it takes patience to slowly acclimate the dog to the device. It’s built like a horse halter and provides a LOT OF LEVERAGE on the face and neck. You must watch the video that comes with the Easy Leader halter device. And if I were you so would find that Video of Stonnie’s. It was with in the last year. BTW. He paired it with a Flexible Lead and stated that he rarely advocates thes but they work in the overly busy mom category. I am not sure but I believe Stonnie had the dog for a few weeks to do the training then he trains the mom to push the right buttons. Forget about expecting your kids to help. They don’t - so they won’t.
Ok - I’ll venture a guess your kids don’t take the edge off the dog with fetch, tennis ball, or frisbee. If they are old enough they should get rewarded for teaching the dog s new skill (trick). For in the house, get a porta kennel or s wire kennel and give dog s time out when he misbehaves.
Hey Stonnie great video! I was wondering if you could make a video about getting a dog to retrieve to hand. I can get him to bring it to my hand consistently in my house but as soon as I try this outside he will bring it back about 5 ft in front of me and drop it. I allowed this behavior in his early years trying not to be to harsh. I guess my real question is how do you undo bad training :D. Thanks
Hello Stonnie. Was great to see an Anatolian. Could you please advise me please. My Anatolian was a working dog that stayed permanently with his flock. Due to bad genetics both his patellas and knee discs tore off on his back legs and he can no longer be a working dog. He turned 12 months on the 5th of December. As you know Anatolians do not show pain and he became very aggressive. Both legs have been operated on. Do you have advice how to domesticate my working dog.
The puppy's front left leg has a little problem on the joint. The paved ground or the hard surface ground is not very good for dogs. Sorry if I am being too neat picky. Just a thought.
Stonnie Dennis I am not trying to prove anything here, and it is not my idea that hard surface is bad for puppy joints. There are many evidences that puppies are succeptable to joint problems when raised on hard surfaces whether indoor or outdoor. Of course there are many other factors to consider as well. Your regularly excercising dogs with plenty of grass grounds may not be prone to any such conditions. Plus paved ground requires a lot less maintenance. But my common sence suggests that canines didn't evolve from living on man made objects until recently. We are changing the world to our comfort. Plenty of great instructions on your videos! Thank you.
Bat Chimeddorj By publicly criticizing my technique you are definitely trying to prove something. Now it’s time to do the proving. You say you have common sense, which I guess, means that I do not. Let’s flesh out your argument a bit. What constitutes a hard surface? What amount of time on a hard surface is harmful? What amount of force generation is required to cause musculoskeletal damage? Why are you discounting the predictable surface traction that a hard surface provide when working in inclement weather? What is the specific problem with the puppy’s joint that you mentioned? If the puppy has a problem what is the causal relationship between walking on a hard surface and the problem? I challenge you to present even one study that is remotely relevant to my work. You criticized, now it’s time to back up your criticism.
Hey stonnie if you read this got a interesting problem the people i live with German Shepherd is extremely skittish around me even tho the people i live with ive stayed with for months and known for quite a while. Pretty much all day the dog stares at me she has a lot of formal training but she doesnt trust me whatsoever. We did many different things to get her to either try to trust me or total ignore. She is about a year old just was wondering if you had some type of idea what i could do or the owner could do to help the dog not be scared of me. She will stare me down bark and run away been happening the past 5 or 6 months
More and more people, mostly Americans, advertise LGDs as family pets which is a HUGE mistake because that is NOT what they were created and selected for... They will be great with their direct family but when they reach maturity which is around 3, a horrible accident waiting to happen… Your 22 weeks old puppy is "cute" but we'll talk again how "cute" he is when he attacks your Neighbors and you children's friends just for making the wrong move and he kills your neighbors' dogs… My sister's neighbor made the same stupid mistake acquiring a Great Pyrenees as a pet and when he reached full maturity around three, what he was originally bred to be, protective and leery of strangers, started to show and he would growl every single time somebody would try to pet him on a walk… She contacted a dog trainer to observe her and she recommanded treats which of course with a LGD didn't work… Fortunately for this woman I have an acquaintance who is very well verse in LGDs… I put her in contact and my acquaintance's first advice was, quote: "do not allow any stranger to pet him anymore, make sure your backyard fence is locked and secured at all time and put a sign Beware, guard dog"... You Simply can't remove hundreds of years of breeding and selection for most LGDs just because you want a LGD to be a lap dog!... It doesn't work that way...
@@StonnieDennis I'm French Canadian and my acquaintance is from France... She's had and rehabilitated LGD, mostly Great Pyrenees and Komondors, for more than 20 years...
I disagree, they are never going to be a lab but can make great, loyal pets if you put in the time and effort early to train and socialize. Also longtime breeders can help in getting a puppy from the litter that shows early signs of a temperament more suited to a companion life. If you are an inexperienced dog owner or want a dog to play fetch then this is not the dog for you.
Stonnie do you have advice for caring for a dog that is grieving the loss of a pack member? We had 3 dogs 2 young labs and our JRT was 14 when she passed last week. Our 2 year old lab seems depressed and just curls Into tight ball not wanting to do much. It's really sad. The younger lab she's always trying to play with her, kind of bullying her to get her to react, but she does not move. Thanks. Dan.
@@StonnieDennis She's a mastiff and just doing her thing! She's impossibly strong on a lead, doesn't do anything unless she wants to, but funny and a marvellous companion and I've never felt so safe :o) The dog in your video is stunning, he's a real beauty.
"Just hang out on the farm"? Nah. They were bred to defend flocks in turkey from any predators ON THEIR OWN while the shepherd was away for days or weeks. That's one reason training them is such a challenge. They have to be very intelligent and independent to look after livestock without a guidance. They can patrol huge areas of land. If your anatolian isn't athletic, that is a direct result of lifestyle. Dexterity, on the other hand, that might make the obstacles Butch is navigating more of a challenge. Giant dogs could still use the extra practice.
I agree with the agility, Butch in particular is very big compared to pedigree kangal, they are a little lighter but maybe it’s also because he is a male. I have a 6 months old Kangal and she smaller then him and a little more athletic. When we go to the dog park even if most of the time she is the younger dog she has the lowest energy
Great video Stonnie :) Very good context for the Motivational & Learning differences between breeds. As a trainer based in Australia my choice of dog is a Kelpie, They learn quickly & are hard workers.. You have seen one of Shanti's recent videos. This is what she doing a few years ago when she was 3-8months of age ua-cam.com/video/rTDATpCloo4/v-deo.html
About the physical and mental capacity of the Anatolian they will run down pretty much anything that they want. And they don't train that well because their brains are wired to not need training, they know what's expected of them. Their speed can be violent if need be. Think of the old 'Sam and Fred' Warner Bros cartoons. ua-cam.com/video/ECa1toPGth4/v-deo.html
That's looks like a Kangal which is a sub-breed of Anatolian shepherd!! They are basically same while Kangal is much recent breed that they are much larger, always grey and has black face and ears while Anatolians could be different colours with spots etc. Anatolian Shepherds could be quite large as well but it is really rare especially with this kind of perfect Kangal colour so basically people chose rare large Anatolian Shepherds to breed as they liked large dogs and at the end Kangal sub-breed was created. They are too bulky and can't be used for shepherding but it could be said they are better guard dogs with their larger size while BOTH AREN'T PETS!! People often confuse these dogs with hunting dogs like Danes etc and think how hard it could be but in reality Danes were breeded to listen commands while Kangals and Anatolian shephers were NOT rather breeded for independent thinking so they could decide how to protect the herd while there is nobody around and they are insanely protective and stubborn for same reason as well, if an inexperienced person buys them it is almost 100% those dogs will end up in a shelter...
The kangal was the original breed then they split off at some point In history to be 2 separate breeds. In the USA the slap kangals, Anatolian shepherds and akbash dogs as an Anatolian shepherd when they’re recognised as separate breeds anything of Turkish descent is an Anatolian to them.
Depends. I got mine from a guy in North Carolina for $400. Guy barely spoke English and I could tell he was just trying to get rid of them fast. Mine is 9 weeks.
Incisive insights from a trainer with broad experience. I speculate that trainer has a bit of 'specialized-breeding' himself (heritage). Instinct fortified by science.
What I don't understand is why this guy talks so much to say so little. Does he love the sound of his own voice so much? Does he think that everyone else doesn't know anything ? I have to to keep on jumping ahead to get to the point.
I talk just the right amount, you may simply not have the cognitive capacity understand what I’m saying. I think some objective self evaluation is in order, no?
Kangals are Not dir Training and so Tricks. They have their own Charakter and protect their Family House and shepherd. They Arent City dogs and dont dogs for doing Shit Like this.
I just got an Anatolian Shepherd pup and happened to stumble upon this video. I sure hope there is a lot more of these! Thanks for the tips!
We had one for 8 years, everything he says is true. She was able to training but it took time.
My " little, tiny puppy" at 4 months of age weighed 45.5 pounds! She was even larger than any of the males! She is now 6 months old and is about 28 inches at her shoulder. I'll find out her weight when she gets spayed soon. She is learning some about the goats, but since I lost my almost 10 year old border collie who was going to train her, I have to leave her on a long chain so she doesn't chase the goats. Since she was the last puppy in the litter to be picked up, she got a lot more attention from the breeders, so she needs extra help with focusing on the goats instead of me. Since it's just her, the goats and me, it's going to take a little longer for her to learn what is allowed and not allowed. But she is learning, slowly, and she and I are both just a little hard-headed! By the size of her paws, she will be larger than normal - up to 130 pounds, so teaching her not to jump on me is a major goal.
LMAO at the Anatolian still sitting on the table while everyone else got up and walked with the Malinois. hahaha He is all set for the day lol
Our Great Pyrenees quickly grew to 99 pounds then stopped for a long while (my wife said that was when his brain was growing lol) then grew gradually to 140 his mature weight all muscle no fat. His puppy brain didn’t flip the switch until about 21/2 years. He has been the best behaved dog imaginable. Patience !
Love how your pack respects you so much
5:10 the dog trainer and the anatolian shepherd both pushed the poodle off the picnic table at the same time lol
Iv3 watched that 100 times! Lol
Thank you! I don’t often see BIG dog training tips. You are so fricken smart and KIND! We need your help👍
Even though I didn't like your comment about "that side of the world" Turkey not having enough veterinarians to take care of dogs, which is not totally correct, I admire what you do as a trainer and tutor. Keep up the good work sir.
That anatolian shepherd isn't even six months old? Wow... they really are a massive breed
My 4 month old female was 45.5 pounds! She is now 6 months old, stands 28 inches at her shoulder, and I'll get the weight when she goes to the vet soon to be spayed. The local animal control officer was at the vet with kittens when I brought her in, and he estimated by the size of her paws that she may be about 130 pounds when mature!
Thank you for this! I pick up two today.
Adopted a rescue pup from a local shelter that was labeled GSD/Newf mix. Although I'm used to pittys, high drive, athletic, and fun to train dogs, I thought the mixture of the trainable GSD and the more laid back Newf would make a good combination because I didn't want a go go! Dog this time around. Well, I ended up with an Anatolian/Pyr mix. He's 14 months old and has been difficult to train. We did do about 5 months of puppy/level training, he did well but regressed at adolescence. He definitely needs shorter sessions like you say but also chooses if he's going to participate. His biggest hiccup is over excitement (not fear or agression based, pure excitement) to greet people and other dogs. High reward treats or toys do not distract him. I think I'm way in over my head for sure.
What a nice looking pup, my dog is near 3/4th anatolian shepard 33% kangal ,he is such an awesome LGD ,keeps the cows safe, havent lost a calf sence we have had him guarding the cows ,hes spot on with his guarding , got him at 8 weeks old, he does not hesitate in anyway when it comes to prrators, has killed 4 coyotes ,we have been coyote free sence he was 18 months old ,actually killed his first coyote just before 6 months old, hes so very independent ,loves his job of guarding ,hes totally fearless, such a powerful dog, he was 4 years old in june of this year, such a big boy, 170 pounds , hes all heart and so confident , would die protecting this propery and surving his duty. Love the bold and fearless powerful anatolian shepard, this was a nice video👍👍
i just got an 8 week anatolian mixed with meremma. i will keep all of this in mind. i can see that uncle stonnie really knows what he is talking about, the proof is in the pudding. i will keep watching and keep learning
I have a Great Pyrenees , it is nice to see a trainer say there’s different training methods for different dogs/breeds
The chaos in the background is kind of my favorite! Big Butch is to big to lay on the table.
I learned all I needed to train my dog from this dude right here 😎 I even taught her how to do “puppy dance” and to give me a kiss before she eats 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you need tons of patience folks..your voice tone carry a lot of weight so speak lovingly and kindly and you’ll see amazing rewards!! Thanks Stoney!! You are outstanding! You need a TV show 😉🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
ASDs are fantastic dogs!! Our ASD pup is now 16 weeks, and most of his training has come from observing our other dogs. His first 2 weeks with us was spent learning his name and to come when called, while watching group training sessions, and individual sessions. When I did his first 10 minute individual session, he sat the first time asked. He went into a down the second time asked. He will shake...and learned to sit up...this one he learned from watching the chihuahua. He’s not necessarily the most graceful, but he really is quite athletic. That’s good, since our pack of farm dogs does include Border Collies. Ultimately, his job will be watch over our horses and chickens. He knows who belongs here, and will alert to their arrival, then lay quietly. I know many people in the LGD community does not agree with how many people raise these dogs, and say that these dogs cannot find happiness in a job that “requires” regular human contact. I love that you did this video!! I hope that you will do more with this guy...or even with other LGD breeds!
How's your dog doing? We've had our ASD for a week and she is doing great so far. Good at walking by our 3rd time. Sit is all we have down, almost have stay. She is great and everything we hoped she would be. Surprisingly loves being inside with us.
@@shaunr5450 hi! Congratulations on your new puppy! It's been a great journey for us, and hope you experience the same. My pup is now about a year and a half old. We taught him basic obedience and socialized him to no end. This has not hindered his instinct to guard our farm critters. By the time Tango turned 6 months old, he was 100% bird safe. This, I've been told, is nearly never done. I don't know. I will say, when he was 9 months old, we did almost lose him when a neighbor's mammoth jack came in and was trying to attack our horses. Thankfully, we have an amazing vet team! A few months after this, a coyote den on an adjoining farm was cleaned out. Tango knows his job, and he does it very well. Yet, I can load him in my truck, and take him with me for weekly feed, or go to a Livestock sale, and you'd never even see a hint of his "other side". The intelligence of these guardians will never cease to amaze me. They are bred to be intelligent, yes. They are bred to be able to tell the difference between a threat or not a threat, yes. These qualities also help these dogs to become (almost) anything that you could imagine them being. The only downfall that Tango has...if he knows there is a human baby or young child, he will find them, and try to claim them as his own. This, I find intriguing. My "baby" is almost 20 years old. He has never had exposure or experience with young children or babies. But he is the biggest, most gentle mush. I could go on and on about him, and all he has brought to our lives. I will add that I found a great training group on Facebook (pm me for the name). They've been a well of great information, support, and all round help. I haven't needed them too much for Tango, but heavily rely on them, as we raise and train Tango's partner. A great pyrenees. She's a whole different dog, all round. Keep me posted, if you don't mind, on how things are going with your new pup!
@@FullerAnn thank you for the reply, very helpful. We are only on a 1/4 acre hoping to move to an acre after all this virus stuff is over with. She will never be a working dog so we are socializing as much as possible. We started out ahead of the game as she is super sweet and rolls over for belly rubs all day. Hard to find much info about raising them as companions and not working dogs but piecing it together with what we can find. She accepted our older dog immediately and is ridiculously sweet with our girls who are 6 and 3. We are definitely off to a good start. Hoping the dog parks open soon so we can go as much as possible. Idk how to direct message here sorry. Please message me or tell me how to message as we would love that Facebook group. We are in love with these dogs. Tempted to get another one so they can get each other's energy out because our older dog is not very playful these days. The extra work of a second one could be worth it if they can tire each other out, but gonna wait a little bit to make that big decision.
@@shaunr5450 mmm...can't seem to figure out how to pm. Used to be able to...
If you have FB, search Farei Kennels and LGD training & education group. Be sure to answer all of the questions, before submitting the join request. After you've been accepted, be sure to read pinned post and the files. It's a great place, lots of real time help and info. It can be a bit Blunt, but that can be a good thing for people like me (I'm very literal). I'm not trying to take away from this trainer...he's awesome at what he does, and how he breaks stuff down. Sometimes it's good to have someone who can answer questions immediately. The Farei group is able to do this :)
Sounds like you're on a great start, with your puppy. May I suggest waiting to get another pup until this one has very little, to no, corrections?! These dogs tend to learn from other dogs a bit easier than some other breeds.
I hope to "see" you in the group!
Your videos are great! I am so excited to see an Anatolian in the mix! Haha...doing what Anatolians do! I love the flexible attitude of your training. I have noticed that mine also requires short frequent training sessions and always a positive approach. Butch may look goofy but he knows whats going on. LOL...
Oh my gosh he’s gorgeous! Really excellent tips Stonnie, I think it’s really important that people understand this. To the untrained eye, he looks fully grown. To me, he looks like a big clumsy baby. It’s important people take into account the mental age of the dog, and the amount of physical and mental stimulation they can handle in one day. Great video! 😁
I have a 12weeks antlion Pyrenees she's really big she weighs 50 pounds and is really loving and protective
Hey, i really appreciate you sharing all these pragmatic insights. Thanks a lot!
These Anatolian Shepard Dogs are often totally on their own in the mountains with the herd. The farmer brings sheeps and dogs up for spring and summer and leaves them there. The Kangals protect and guide the sheep . So these Kangals are very independent dogs and not easy to handle at all.
Jayj531 they are sooo simple just not a first pet
I must have gotten very lucky because mine is super obedient and very friendly
I have a female Kangal and she is amazing, it’s most absolutely knowing the dog you are getting and their predisposition
Not a pet at all
I have a female puppy. Your video is something I was in need to see.
Nice to see this, I will be getting an anatolian/pyrenees mix pup soon. He will be a working LGD but he will also be trained and socialized. They're beautiful, powerful and intelligent dogs!
Pointer loves the tires! lol I like the way you work with one on the lead and all the others run distractions! Great video. Thanks
What a gorgeous big boy. We put a ton of money into our nutrients & supplements for our pyre since we're planning on getting a few litters from her long term. I CANNOT FATHOM how much you have to put into making sure a big male like Butchey grows to his potential.
How many supplements do you think the ancestors of these dogs were given?
This is a really great tip. This really relates to my dog as my Doberman is not as mature as he looks. In fact he is a big baby. Thank you! Now I’m going to do more research on my dog to improve our training
Thank you so much! I have just watched this and your pyrenees videos. You are amazing. We just got a pyrenees anatolian mix 8 week pup and your videos have been our favorite on how to work/train her. And so glad I am not the only one who calls my beasties "nerds".
Totally agree with your statement, in fact some of the larger breeds tend to mature much slower than the smaller ones. Excellent video once again 👍 👍 👍
I sure miss our Jude
Great advice here. I've got an Aussie/Anatolian mix who's 14 weeks, and it seems as his temperament and mental growth is taking from he Anatolian. Two totally different ways of training and there isn't much info on the Anatolians in comparison to the Aussies, so this was great.
Excellent information!! Thank you!
Wow beautiful and majestic dog
Man I wish I could learn and train with you for like a month. I occasionally do work with dogs and have for some time, but I have learned so much more in following you on here, and you've really changed a lot with me in my methods I use with dogs. I have not pursued it yet, but I intend to pursue training as a full time work in the near future.
I'm probably a lot more fun to watch on UA-cam than I am to actually hang out with, to be honest.
we had a german shorthair/lab mix that would run for hours fetching frisbees in her prime and never seemed to tire. It was incredible. She tired me out when she was 2-5 years old. She would crash hard though after the dog park. These LGD's are so interesting to me
I like anatolian shepherd -- great pyrenees mix dogs
Stonnie, this is a great video! We are going through the same thing right now. Our GSD turned 5 months old Sept. 14 and right now he's 70 pounds already! It's easy to look at him and see a more mature dog, but he is a big, loppy baby whose hormones are rapidly changing and the outbursts that accompany that are perfectly normal....those crazy energy spurts and now with the fact that they love to try to assert themselves! I am still dealing with a dog that likes to jump up occasionally when he gets excited and of course no one welcomes that....tough to tell a stranger to please not pet the dog until there is 4 on the floor or even ask them to turn around and just ignore him (we won't acknowledge him when he jumps up at all). I love your advice on having multiple SHORT training sessions per day due to the level of maturity with the large breed dogs. One minute, we have a very chill, seemingly mature dog and the next, I have dog running circles around me acting like a complete nut! Ahhhh.....puppyhood! Thanks for all your magnificent tips Stonnie....don't think I could have done it without you. Just curious if you will (or have had) a segment that addresses resource guarding with food. After many male dogs, this is the first guy that has an issue and our plan has been to just leave him alone when he eats and occasionally toss a higher value treat his way. For bones, we're doing trade up....so far, so good. He is so much more relaxed and hoping that this will fade or be eliminated. He's good with toys. I have a feeling we will have to be careful for life, but curious how you manage this. Thanks again :-)
Great post
I wonder about this too. I know that Stonnie holds back 1/2 the rations for a pup and the lure is his own puppy food in the beginning. He uses different value treats too for higher distraction like going to the farm store for supplies. So perhaps hand feeding promotes politeness, and discouraged guarding. I’m not sure.
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There are lots of past videos that address fading the lure and using low voice and treats for commands, or high voice and no treats for fun stuff, because these are self rewarding. Look at old vids you will find these topics.
I know a ton af people have asked what is the secret treat that makes the dogs behave and it’s basicslly hungry puppy and competition for treats and attention. Having multiple dogs can be s huge advantage in the right hands.
I liked your detailed post. Good questions.
Almost forgot! There’s a video where Stonnie is taking a dog out and about to a strip mall and he’s addressing how to deal with people that want to pet your dog. Look for that one. It was a really good video.
Thank you very much Kim for your very thoughtful post! I really do appreciate it! I have done a little hand feeding so my scent is in his food, too. I like your info about the "different value treats" and the "high/low voice". When training him, I do use a low voice of authority...easy for a Shepherd to want to control the situation otherwise and I am walking a line with him. Now Baron is just shy of 8 months old and a real handful!! He does like food rewards, too, but does his best when there is play in it for him. I have been going through his full battery of commands using his ball and he'll do anything for it. He has different phases and behaviors for each stage of development and they seem to almost change by the day! Just when we thought the jumping was done, now he has decided to try to turn up the volume when he is excited and caught me off-guard this week. Tried to run fast under my legs while he was running back and forth through the house like a nut, but "caught me" and sent me flying backwards into our back screen door. Thankfully I wasn't hurt nor was he trying to hurt me, but these are the behaviors that he is immediately going on a leash for until he calms down again as I don't want to see anyone hurt. He is now well over 80 pounds....a moose in training with fluctuating hormones! He is otherwise a love and will practically kiss your face off, but wants to be the king around here and simply can't be. We are the king and queen of this house and we simply have to be more stubborn than he is (and he is pretty darn stubborn)!! :-)
Thank you very much Kim!! I have had Baron to many stores and the feed store is his favorite. He behaves quite well in public really and even better than at home....makes me proud of him. However, I am just stunned by the number of people that will just stick their face right in his. At the Home Depot this week (where they now know him), one lady asked if she could pet the dog. I said "yes". She immediately got on her knees and offered her face for a tongue wash. I don't think I would be so apt to push my face into a strange dog's face like that, but the world sure is full of animal lovers! To date, I have actually encouraged his friendliness because I want a really good canine citizen that loves people. He already comes from a long line of protection dogs and already starting to show us that he will guard naturally. I will have to look for that video, too. Thanks again Kim :-)
Uncle Stonnie I loved this video of yours. Simply great! No ramblings. I came away having great respect for you n your knowledge about dogs and be able to communicate that to me v easily. And..wait..it was short n sweet! What’s not nice about that! 2 thumbs up!
Very interesting. Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for featuring an Anatolian Stonny. I have got my Anatolian right here. I did notice he was a little slower to learn basic commands in his dog training class. Also, he is less likely to please because he is bred to be an independent thinker. He is now 8.5 months, and I see some more maturity. We have a few goats for him to watch. He is pretty smart and sometimes seems bored. How can I challenge his intelligence and stamina considering his size and breed type?
This is just wonderful. I love the way you are with dogs. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for the positive feedback!
this guys is the tiger king of dog training
Excellent and informative video. Thank you.
I got an Anatolian shepherd puppy recently, he’s now around 15 weeks old now, and I was wondering if you had any tips for diets and feed for them. Thanks, Great Vid!
Raw meat that has been in the freezer long enough to kill bacteria would be best.
@@TheSuperSaiyanGoku1 Thanks!
I've come to find that anatolian shepherds r actually very athletic, they just don't want to jump when anyone may ask. I know bc I have an anatolian shepherd. When he was 4 months with 0 training Jumped over a log that was around 4 feet high with ease. First time ever jumping over anything. When I went to get him to step over a stick, he wasn't moving lol. He can do it now on command yet he is enthusiastic about it lol. They just don't wanna please people the way other dogs were bred to. Yet they r very much so athletic. I gotta get an 8 feet fence bc of how high he jumps lol. Overall I love this video though
Thanks. I have a big old puppy
I know with 47 years behind you..even you can Change! Your dogs do! You see it & I see it! KISS principle. And..wait I need to thank Elia the cameraman..even your wife does great with the camera. I like it a lot. I’m not changing the channel! You’re going to have to change man! Lol
Thanks for sharing. I just need mine to respect the horses next door. One does, 1 doesn't. The none verbal doesn't give a hoot about the horses or the baby chicks. The verbal dog, right now chases. We're working on that. Slowly. The dogs do respect the fence. More than the Martingale
so true. if only people would understand the difference with the breeds. instead of thinking as a human,
emember they are not humans
The Department of Defense Military Working Dog Center of Excellence at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas would do well to spend a few hours in consultation with this trainer. The utility of military working dogs does not begin and end with the Belgian Malanois.
i'm fostering an 8wk old Anatolian and would love to know what is age appropriate for him. Also, he's in a city rescue, so probably will not have a farm job. What can i do to help him adjust for his city life?
5:15: aww, Butch tried to help u with ur job.
6:30: the small dogs gonna keep whining.
6:54: aah, cop dog.
7:40:
10:25: alr
Stoney - this great video especially when put in the context of your other videos.
I've seen other videos of yours that have emphasized the importance of knowing the strengths and limitations of the breed you're working with. Could you recommend some references or resources that might outline these breed differences and how the breeds generally develop? You also mentioned "pattern cognizant" in reference to behavior. I think I understand what you mean but I'm not sure. Any recommendations where I could learn more? It would seem that you could use general traits of your breed to initially tailor your training then tune it to the specific dog.
Specifically I'm a Lab guy so, of course, any info on Labs interests me the most. Thanks again.
If I could have pressed ‘love’ for this comment I would have. This is so crutial! Have you ever wondered why the ‘Small Challenges’ course never changes? Or why in that movie if the Afghan vet that adopted her dog, the training was so repetitive on a set course? I didn’t get it. I actually fought it and tried to switch it up so the dog would not get bored. Then this video hit and Stonnie dropped a golden nugget. And finally I get it. It’s pattern recognition. PATTERN RECOGNIZANCE.
I think it must be pattern recognition and learning in dogs. So apparently some breeds like Labs and GSDs and Malinois, etc have this capability and sone don’t. I have no clue which ones don’t. But I will never change up my mini version of Stonnie’s small challenges course again. And I will continue practicing it several times a day with tons of praise and reward.
davidreinecker.com/dog-behavior/pattern-recognition-and-learning-in-dogs
David Reinecker explains it. I think this is what Stonnie is talking about but I’m not sure. Any thoughts on this? I, like you, know it’s important.
Do you have any videos working with red zone dogs or dogs with really bad issues?? Would love to see how you handle those cases, I like to see how different trainers do things. I was skimming through your videos and can't find any, I'll keep going down further to see if I find any or do you have a separate channel for those?
i have an anatolian cross with a black n tan hound. hard headed. independent and will ignore any commands not on the leash. oh, did i mention she was hard headed?
Are LGD males left uncut?
I have an Anatolian, Malinois, GSD, Great Pyrneese mutt so I'm just confused.
I got a antolain shepherd he is little over 12 months old what age do they get out of puppy behavior?
How can I get dog to walk properly on leash? The second we get outside he's trying to bolt. He's a big Golden Doodle, almost a yr old and he's always grabbing stuff off the counter and place mats off table. HE'S EXHAUSTING!!! Children are starting to hate him
He is excited when he gets outside and has to release his accumulated energy from staying home. Some people like that kind of dogs. Maybe not so right for your type. Dogs need a lot of work before they understand your commands. My dog is getting a little better as he gets older.
Stonnie has a video where he retrains a busy mom’s big strong dog. (Maybe it was an Airedale or an Afghan Hound, I don’t recall). This dog was too strong for Mom so he used a leading device for the dog called a Gentle Leader. WARNING: it takes patience to slowly acclimate the dog to the device. It’s built like a horse halter and provides a LOT OF LEVERAGE on the face and neck. You must watch the video that comes with the Easy Leader halter device. And if I were you so would find that Video of Stonnie’s. It was with in the last year. BTW. He paired it with a Flexible Lead and stated that he rarely advocates thes but they work in the overly busy mom category. I am not sure but I believe Stonnie had the dog for a few weeks to do the training then he trains the mom to push the right buttons.
Forget about expecting your kids to help. They don’t - so they won’t.
Ok - I’ll venture a guess your kids don’t take the edge off the dog with fetch, tennis ball, or frisbee. If they are old enough they should get rewarded for teaching the dog s new skill (trick).
For in the house, get a porta kennel or s wire kennel and give dog s time out when he misbehaves.
Stonnie calls this pre-Fatiguing your dog. Frisbee or fetch will slow down the dog enough to listen once dog is trained to walk on a loose leash.
Hey Stonnie great video! I was wondering if you could make a video about getting a dog to retrieve to hand. I can get him to bring it to my hand consistently in my house but as soon as I try this outside he will bring it back about 5 ft in front of me and drop it. I allowed this behavior in his early years trying not to be to harsh. I guess my real question is how do you undo bad training :D. Thanks
Hello Stonnie. Was great to see an Anatolian. Could you please advise me please. My Anatolian was a working dog that stayed permanently with his flock. Due to bad genetics both his patellas and knee discs tore off on his back legs and he can no longer be a working dog. He turned 12 months on the 5th of December. As you know Anatolians do not show pain and he became very aggressive. Both legs have been operated on. Do you have advice how to domesticate my working dog.
The puppy's front left leg has a little problem on the joint. The paved ground or the hard surface ground is not very good for dogs. Sorry if I am being too neat picky. Just a thought.
Bat Chimeddorj Flesh that out a little bit. What metrics are you using to determine what is or is not a suitable surface for puppy walking?
If you are going to be picky, then you need to present your argument properly, with evidence, reason, and research.
Stonnie Dennis I am not trying to prove anything here, and it is not my idea that hard surface is bad for puppy joints. There are many evidences that puppies are succeptable to joint problems when raised on hard surfaces whether indoor or outdoor. Of course there are many other factors to consider as well. Your regularly excercising dogs with plenty of grass grounds may not be prone to any such conditions. Plus paved ground requires a lot less maintenance. But my common sence suggests that canines didn't evolve from living on man made objects until recently. We are changing the world to our comfort.
Plenty of great instructions on your videos! Thank you.
Bat Chimeddorj By publicly criticizing my technique you are definitely trying to prove something.
Now it’s time to do the proving. You say you have common sense, which I guess, means that I do not.
Let’s flesh out your argument a bit.
What constitutes a hard surface?
What amount of time on a hard surface is harmful?
What amount of force generation is required to cause musculoskeletal damage?
Why are you discounting the predictable surface traction that a hard surface provide when working in inclement weather?
What is the specific problem with the puppy’s joint that you mentioned? If the puppy has a problem what is the causal relationship between walking on a hard surface and the problem?
I challenge you to present even one study that is remotely relevant to my work.
You criticized, now it’s time to back up your criticism.
Hey stonnie if you read this got a interesting problem the people i live with German Shepherd is extremely skittish around me even tho the people i live with ive stayed with for months and known for quite a while. Pretty much all day the dog stares at me she has a lot of formal training but she doesnt trust me whatsoever. We did many different things to get her to either try to trust me or total ignore. She is about a year old just was wondering if you had some type of idea what i could do or the owner could do to help the dog not be scared of me. She will stare me down bark and run away been happening the past 5 or 6 months
I am not sure but have you tried being the one feeding meals or game such as fetch. Maybe try putting treats close to you.
Hello!
Does Butch bark a lot at night? How do you deal with that if he does?
Why do people measure age in weeks?
More and more people, mostly Americans, advertise LGDs as family pets which is a HUGE mistake because that is NOT what they were created and selected for...
They will be great with their direct family but when they reach maturity which is around 3, a horrible accident waiting to happen… Your 22 weeks old puppy is "cute" but we'll talk again how "cute" he is when he attacks your Neighbors and you children's friends just for making the wrong move and he kills your neighbors' dogs…
My sister's neighbor made the same stupid mistake acquiring a Great Pyrenees as a pet and when he reached full maturity around three, what he was originally bred to be, protective and leery of strangers, started to show and he would growl every single time somebody would try to pet him on a walk… She contacted a dog trainer to observe her and she recommanded treats which of course with a LGD didn't work… Fortunately for this woman I have an acquaintance who is very well verse in LGDs… I put her in contact and my acquaintance's first advice was, quote: "do not allow any stranger to pet him anymore, make sure your backyard fence is locked and secured at all time and put a sign Beware, guard dog"...
You Simply can't remove hundreds of years of breeding and selection for most LGDs just because you want a LGD to be a lap dog!... It doesn't work that way...
Where do you live?
@@StonnieDennis I'm French Canadian and my acquaintance is from France...
She's had and rehabilitated LGD, mostly Great Pyrenees and Komondors, for more than 20 years...
I disagree, they are never going to be a lab but can make great, loyal pets if you put in the time and effort early to train and socialize. Also longtime breeders can help in getting a puppy from the litter that shows early signs of a temperament more suited to a companion life. If you are an inexperienced dog owner or want a dog to play fetch then this is not the dog for you.
i would love to read an article of an Anatolian attacking a human for no reason. find this pretty hard to believe
Stonnie do you have advice for caring for a dog that is grieving the loss of a pack member? We had 3 dogs 2 young labs and our JRT was 14 when she passed last week. Our 2 year old lab seems depressed and just curls Into tight ball not wanting to do much. It's really sad. The younger lab she's always trying to play with her, kind of bullying her to get her to react, but she does not move. Thanks. Dan.
luminosity2083 sorry 😓are they doing better you just gotta keep trying to make her happy it can take so long but keep going
I have a snstolion and Mara mix and his 3 now and still act a puppy at times you are right about.big dogs
My dog suspects everyone of being an 'evil-doer' !!! Guilty until proven innocent.
Ha! I’ve had similar dogs!
@@StonnieDennis She's a mastiff and just doing her thing! She's impossibly strong on a lead, doesn't do anything unless she wants to, but funny and a marvellous companion and I've never felt so safe :o) The dog in your video is stunning, he's a real beauty.
"Just hang out on the farm"? Nah. They were bred to defend flocks in turkey from any predators ON THEIR OWN while the shepherd was away for days or weeks. That's one reason training them is such a challenge. They have to be very intelligent and independent to look after livestock without a guidance. They can patrol huge areas of land. If your anatolian isn't athletic, that is a direct result of lifestyle.
Dexterity, on the other hand, that might make the obstacles Butch is navigating more of a challenge. Giant dogs could still use the extra practice.
Tell us more about the bulk of their daily activities.
I agree with the agility, Butch in particular is very big compared to pedigree kangal, they are a little lighter but maybe it’s also because he is a male. I have a 6 months old Kangal and she smaller then him and a little more athletic. When we go to the dog park even if most of the time she is the younger dog she has the lowest energy
More lgd videos please 😂
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My malenois could care less for treats. Scaling challenges is what they live for.
ZACH CHASE
Kangal
Great video Stonnie :) Very good context for the Motivational & Learning differences between breeds. As a trainer based in Australia my choice of dog is a Kelpie, They learn quickly & are hard workers.. You have seen one of Shanti's recent videos. This is what she doing a few years ago when she was 3-8months of age ua-cam.com/video/rTDATpCloo4/v-deo.html
About the physical and mental capacity of the Anatolian they will run down pretty much anything that they want. And they don't train that well because their brains are wired to not need training, they know what's expected of them. Their speed can be violent if need be. Think of the old 'Sam and Fred' Warner Bros cartoons. ua-cam.com/video/ECa1toPGth4/v-deo.html
That's looks like a Kangal which is a sub-breed of Anatolian shepherd!! They are basically same while Kangal is much recent breed that they are much larger, always grey and has black face and ears while Anatolians could be different colours with spots etc. Anatolian Shepherds could be quite large as well but it is really rare especially with this kind of perfect Kangal colour so basically people chose rare large Anatolian Shepherds to breed as they liked large dogs and at the end Kangal sub-breed was created. They are too bulky and can't be used for shepherding but it could be said they are better guard dogs with their larger size while BOTH AREN'T PETS!! People often confuse these dogs with hunting dogs like Danes etc and think how hard it could be but in reality Danes were breeded to listen commands while Kangals and Anatolian shephers were NOT rather breeded for independent thinking so they could decide how to protect the herd while there is nobody around and they are insanely protective and stubborn for same reason as well, if an inexperienced person buys them it is almost 100% those dogs will end up in a shelter...
The kangal was the original breed then they split off at some point In history to be 2 separate breeds. In the USA the slap kangals, Anatolian shepherds and akbash dogs as an Anatolian shepherd when they’re recognised as separate breeds anything of Turkish descent is an Anatolian to them.
How much ur ana shepherd cost male
Depends. I got mine from a guy in North Carolina for $400. Guy barely spoke English and I could tell he was just trying to get rid of them fast. Mine is 9 weeks.
Incisive insights from a trainer with broad experience. I speculate that trainer has a bit of 'specialized-breeding' himself (heritage). Instinct fortified by science.
What I don't understand is why this guy talks so much to say so little. Does he love the sound of his own voice so much? Does he think that everyone else doesn't know anything ? I have to to keep on jumping ahead to get to the point.
I talk just the right amount, you may simply not have the cognitive capacity understand what I’m saying.
I think some objective self evaluation is in order, no?
Kangals are Not dir Training and so Tricks. They have their own Charakter and protect their Family House and shepherd. They Arent City dogs and dont dogs for doing Shit Like this.
I don’t understand your point. Obviously this dog is doing well...
I don’t understand your point. Obviously this dog is doing well...