Thank you, Claire. Martin Luther is such an important figure in the history of European culture and thought, but not always for the right reasons. He was a religious zealot like any other, I suppose, in that he believed his way was the right way, and all who differed were damned.
@BlackCatMargie Kind of. Do you dispute any of the 95 theses, or just his later off-base rants against those he thought were somehow connected to the corrupt institution?
Luther's hatred of Jews stemmed mostly from the fact that we refused to convert to Christianity. He thought that the only reason we didn't do it before was that the Catholics were wrong, corrupt, etc. So when we ignored him, too, he had a fit & that was that!!
@SafetySpooon True and interesting reduction ... but as an Ashkenazi jew, I can tell you that there is no "we." You and I weren't there, and the Jews have been subjected around this world since the dawn of time...
The Catholics of his time kept the scriptures in Latin and to themselves, with Luther and the printing press the word of God started to be translated in all tongues around the world.
History is full of flawed men of their time who did pretty extraordinary things and also did terrible things as well. Luther was one of many and sadly he was someone who earlier had spoken out against the treatment of the Jews only to write that near the end of his life. As to the people who are saying, “what does this have to do with the tudors?”. Martin Luther and king Henry the 8th clashed over repeatedly and Luther had some very serious word choices to describe king Henry.
@onceamusician5408 We, all, aren't. The RCC allowed imagination, off-topic devotion, and works righteousness to taint the real church and then labeled the papacy infallible. How do you explain the ancient pope who thought Mary Magdalene was a whore? People still believe that today (as well as 666 being the number of Satan). I digress. The RCC isn't confused about the bible. Rather, they use it to somehow support papal teaching teaching even if there is no implication in Scripture alone. By 1963, the RCC would reform the majority of Luther's issues even if they did label him a heretic. While the RCC finds comfort in calling itself the historic church, it gets lost in the fact that the church is living, growing, changing, and makes no allowance (or little, Pope Francis) to accommodate that. In the end, the RCC are brothers and sisters joined by baptism to Christ.
I in fact regard Luther and Calvin as some of the worst advertisements for Protestantism and its doctrines that there are. i do not take pride in them for their asserting doctrines I hold to be true, not when their lives showed that they did not believe them
Interesting. His 95 theses were valid and still ring true today. He definitely tarnished his own image by writing works that were born out of contempt for the RCC and Pope Leo. Tell me, do you respect Martin Luther King, Jr.? I do... and yet I know he was a womanizer and that every ounce of his civil rights course/discourse was born of Myles Horton and his wife Zilphia at the Tennessee-based Highlander Folk School...
Thank you, Claire. Martin Luther is such an important figure in the history of European culture and thought, but not always for the right reasons. He was a religious zealot like any other, I suppose, in that he believed his way was the right way, and all who differed were damned.
@BlackCatMargie Kind of. Do you dispute any of the 95 theses, or just his later off-base rants against those he thought were somehow connected to the corrupt institution?
Wow. Never heard any of this. Usually never mentioned in history.
Thank you Claire
Luther's hatred of Jews stemmed mostly from the fact that we refused to convert to Christianity. He thought that the only reason we didn't do it before was that the Catholics were wrong, corrupt, etc. So when we ignored him, too, he had a fit & that was that!!
Actually it had also to do with him reading the Jewish books like the Talmud and rumours about people converting to Judaism.
@SafetySpooon True and interesting reduction ... but as an Ashkenazi jew, I can tell you that there is no "we." You and I weren't there, and the Jews have been subjected around this world since the dawn of time...
The Catholics of his time kept the scriptures in Latin and to themselves, with Luther and the printing press the word of God started to be translated in all tongues around the world.
History is full of flawed men of their time who did pretty extraordinary things and also did terrible things as well. Luther was one of many and sadly he was someone who earlier had spoken out against the treatment of the Jews only to write that near the end of his life.
As to the people who are saying, “what does this have to do with the tudors?”. Martin Luther and king Henry the 8th clashed over repeatedly and Luther had some very serious word choices to describe king Henry.
He wrote a book called the news and there lies if I'm not mistaken
Yes, Claire mentions it
Their
There is no purgatory
The catholics are mixed up about the Bible
Funny, they say the same about you!
if we are honest and aware of what the bible says about the carnal mind, then we will see
THAT WE ALL ARE
@onceamusician5408 We, all, aren't. The RCC allowed imagination, off-topic devotion, and works righteousness to taint the real church and then labeled the papacy infallible. How do you explain the ancient pope who thought Mary Magdalene was a whore? People still believe that today (as well as 666 being the number of Satan). I digress. The RCC isn't confused about the bible. Rather, they use it to somehow support papal teaching teaching even if there is no implication in Scripture alone. By 1963, the RCC would reform the majority of Luther's issues even if they did label him a heretic. While the RCC finds comfort in calling itself the historic church, it gets lost in the fact that the church is living, growing, changing, and makes no allowance (or little, Pope Francis) to accommodate that. In the end, the RCC are brothers and sisters joined by baptism to Christ.
I in fact regard Luther and Calvin as some of the worst advertisements for Protestantism and its doctrines that there are.
i do not take pride in them for their asserting doctrines I hold to be true, not when their lives showed that they did not believe them
Interesting. His 95 theses were valid and still ring true today. He definitely tarnished his own image by writing works that were born out of contempt for the RCC and Pope Leo. Tell me, do you respect Martin Luther King, Jr.? I do... and yet I know he was a womanizer and that every ounce of his civil rights course/discourse was born of Myles Horton and his wife Zilphia at the Tennessee-based Highlander Folk School...