The GODS of Mortis ALL FULLY EXPLAINED - FATHER SON ABELOTH DAUGHTER - AHSOKA EPISODE 8

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  • @StarWarsTheory
    @StarWarsTheory  Рік тому +87

    Son 0:34
    Father 13:29
    Daughter 23:14
    Abeloth 29:42

    • @6dayzofchaos584
      @6dayzofchaos584 Рік тому +4

      Have you rewatched this arc since Ahosoka? ALL of the clonewars are different now after the live action stuff. It all hits a bit different. THings matter more. etc.

    • @jye_24
      @jye_24 Рік тому +1

      @@6dayzofchaos584 I sure have man and i always knew as a kid we would see the Gods again whether it was Live action or Animation, truly some of the best animation ever through the clone wars series words dont explain how excited my Inner child is to see them again but in Live action!

    • @tommyjennings500
      @tommyjennings500 Рік тому

      @ 12:50 you said Anakin and The Son confronting Palpatine would make a good “What If?”, but you’ve already done this…or something very similar. It was “What If The Son and ANakin Escape Mortis” and you did 2 different versions of it back to back, if I remember correctly

    • @MajinTheRuiner
      @MajinTheRuiner Рік тому

      I just heard that Natalie Portman would play aboloff she would use that form to torment Anakin

  • @CRlMZlN
    @CRlMZlN Рік тому +43

    Im so pumped. The mystic, spiritual side of Star Wars is one of my *favorite* aspects of it. Dave bringing the Mortis arc back full circle is a dream come true for me, and has the potential to add SO much depth.

    • @felixcote1697
      @felixcote1697 Рік тому

      No, let's add more scenes with the crab people instead

    • @strydyrhellzrydyr1345
      @strydyrhellzrydyr1345 2 місяці тому

      Well ... ARE YOU HAPPY NOW... HUH... Seeing the utter SHIT that has been created, and is destroying the Star Wars name forever.

  • @omegazero9580
    @omegazero9580 Рік тому +177

    If Filoni/Favreau were in control of Sequels back in 2015, the Gods of Mortis, Yuuzhan Vong, and even the Mandalorians would have been a huge part of the stories. Plus, Luke Skywalker would have never gone into exile and we could have seen his New Jedi Order in action.
    And Mara Jade and Ben Skywalker existed in canon as well.

    • @Ahzuv
      @Ahzuv Рік тому

      Shut up we know

    • @logicalVerne
      @logicalVerne Рік тому +11

      You’re delusional if you think that’s the case, and even moreso if you think we would have somehow gotten a better outcome for Star Wars. This entire series is strewn together by member berries and cameos, with plot gaps so wide Evil Knievel would never attempt to jump them. Edwards and Gilroy were the way forward in regards to writing scripts, but they cut Edwards short before he could even deliver his product

    • @zeropyrex6260
      @zeropyrex6260 Рік тому +3

      @@logicalVerne😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @zeropyrex6260
      @zeropyrex6260 Рік тому

      @@logicalVernethank for edwards for shafted he’s trash

    • @michaelbanda9993
      @michaelbanda9993 Рік тому

      @@logicalVernecap

  • @luizmauriciosydriaoferreir570
    @luizmauriciosydriaoferreir570 Рік тому +63

    Anakin ALREADY is the Father. That's why he transitions between Light and Dark as he will (just like the FATHER did). Great hopes of seeing our buy HAYDEN as the Father in others seasons/shows. I LOVED how much time they are gaving to things to happen in a very Star Wardish way. If things continues this way, I might start to become more HOPEFUL as well

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Рік тому

      He's not the Father, he's a Celestial now

    • @itsafan202
      @itsafan202 Рік тому

      He didn't have both sides balanced at the same time though?

    • @harrypacker6980
      @harrypacker6980 Рік тому

      ​@itsafan202 neither was the father really he showed more light than dark but anakin can switch

  • @T.OFearghail
    @T.OFearghail Рік тому +14

    Thanks for all the SW content over the last few years. I’m a class of 77 SW fan and can no longer stomach to watch any commentary on Disney SW. however, your vids about Lucas SW will always be appreciated. May the Force be with Star Wars. It needs it right now.

  • @CameronL211
    @CameronL211 Рік тому +18

    Sam witwer as the son on the statue was amazing I absolutely can’t wait for season 2

  • @Major98
    @Major98 Рік тому +148

    At first I wasnt a fan of the Abeloth theory, I thought it was a reach. After seeing the Mortis Statues and Ahsoka's owl, I think the theories are way more plausible that she is the source of the Nightsisters weird magic. She is the one guiding the Great Mothers or at least siphoning her power to them.

    • @jamesirons963
      @jamesirons963 Рік тому +9

      Never thought of this before…
      But it makes sense,
      Only problem with it is if abeloth gave them power, why would they abandon her instead of staying by they’re goddess’ side? It’s known that the night sisters worship the son and daughter…
      However Imagine this:
      The father, daughter, and son trap the mother on perrida and assign the night sisters as guardians of the planet, taking some of them away to live on darthomir, and then Leaving perrida to go live on mortis as the ones.
      Then, abeloth reaches out and starts making sisters on perrida go crazy, the 3 crons in charge realize this and they go to approach abeloth, she promises them powers for all of their people/race if they release her…
      Than after receiving the gifts from abeloth, they followed the father’s instruction of never releasing DOOM upon themselves and the rest of the galaxy!
      All night sisters gained the power they were promised, but the crons put their entire race in stasis so they could not potentially help abeloth escape!
      Now thrawn shows up and promises them a way off perrida to darthomir where they can live without fear and in the open proudly instead of remaining in stasis and not really living…
      In essence what if the nightsisters stole abeloth’s power???
      Makes 💯% sense
      And also makes perfect sense why they’re running so fast! 😂

    • @luisgarcia-vd9ei
      @luisgarcia-vd9ei Рік тому +7

      They could use this as well to make Luke go to confront Abeloth with Ben Solo and thats how he becomes corrupted making it make sense of why did Luke was so scared of him when he looked into his mind

    • @Nikmok69
      @Nikmok69 Рік тому +9

      @@luisgarcia-vd9ei just your little paragraph is better than the whole sequel trilogy script

    • @darknoble1151
      @darknoble1151 Рік тому +1

      i think she's the original knight sister...those dark eyes

    • @ScarlettSpitfyre
      @ScarlettSpitfyre Рік тому +1

      The planet is called Dathomir, not Darthomir. You wrote 2 times the name wrong, so is not a typo, but maybe you just knew the name wrong...

  • @BitigoBlack
    @BitigoBlack Рік тому +60

    I never knew there was a 9 book story arc with Abeloth.
    Filoni is definitely bringing her in.

  • @L_Eres
    @L_Eres Рік тому +8

    When there is The Father, The Daughter, The Son and The Mother, and Mother is living separately, then you know...
    There is The Lover as well.

    • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
      @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Рік тому

      That's just sexist

    • @L_Eres
      @L_Eres Рік тому

      ​@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 only in minds of those who have no boundaries between fun and sense.

  • @FjongClips
    @FjongClips Рік тому +95

    I almost owe you, Star Wars Theory, an apology. Why are you talking about the Mortis gods all the time and not the Zeffo, I was asking myself, as we never saw a hint of them in previous episodes of Ahsoka other than the “the World between worlds like Ahsoka episode”. But you definitely redeemed yourself with episode 8. You were actually totally right. There were the three statues of the Mortis gods! …I was in awe, when I saw them.
    And now I do not think even the Abeloth is so far-fetched.

    • @crimsonstripes
      @crimsonstripes Рік тому +9

      The biggest clue we had was hearing Sam Witwer as the son in the first episode for sure, not to mention Clone Wars with Ahsoka being a Dave Filoni thing, when Fallen Order is a separate video game.

    • @Welshmanshots
      @Welshmanshots Рік тому +9

      Fallen Order is Canon and so is survivor @@crimsonstripes

    • @DManLewis1
      @DManLewis1 Рік тому +7

      NEVER DOUBT OUT BOI AGAIN!! Apology Accepted.

    • @thesheriff5091
      @thesheriff5091 Рік тому +3

      @@Welshmanshotsto me they arent i like the games being seperate

    • @dankmotionsstudios5161
      @dankmotionsstudios5161 Рік тому +6

      Bruh why. Dont cherry pick
      Games can be cannon. Just like how the BF2 campaign was canon, and they had a callback to operation Cinder in The Mandalorian S2

  • @mitchellmelkin4078
    @mitchellmelkin4078 Рік тому +4

    Thank you very much, Theory, for making such a compelling set of stories so precisely and readily accessible, even for a casual fan like me!!! Great work!!!👍👍👍

  • @MobbKeith
    @MobbKeith Рік тому +10

    The Son & Daughter only have their power because their Father, if he dies, they lose their power. At 1st the Father wanted Anakin to take his place, to be what the Force chose him to do, balance the Force, in this case become the Father & control the Dark & Light. Things played out differently, the Son killed the Daughter accidentally, he loved his sister even tho she held him back from spreading darkness. Now the Force is unbalanced, heavy in the Dark. The Father knew balance must return with the death of his Son, who is immortal. Only the death of the Father can take away his Sons power, so that's what happened, the Father stabbed himself with a dagger capable of killing any immortal, then while the Son cried in mourning, Anakin stabbed him with his lightsaber, killing him as he no longer has his God power. The Father did tell Anakin he's indeed the chosen one, and as he balanced the Force on Mortis, he will again have to balance the Force of the universe. Maybe Anakin after his death became a Mortis God & represents all 3 of the family? Or is another family to begin where Anakin is the Father, Ahsoka the Daughter, someone else like Baylon Skol the Son? Or perhaps Anakin & his twin children Luke & Leah, is yet to be seen.

  • @fairdose
    @fairdose Рік тому +74

    Abeloth is the closest we'll get to H.P Lovecraft level of horror in the Star Wars Universe. I hope she appears eventually in either the TV or films.

  • @Morpheuskingofdreams
    @Morpheuskingofdreams Рік тому +30

    Sometimes it’s sad knowing that none of this is going to happen. And it will be lackluster like everything else Disney has created.

    • @patrickmacasaet3493
      @patrickmacasaet3493 Рік тому +7

      ^^^^^ this comment lmao, I'm so sick and tired of hopeful Star Wars fans, the actual stuff that makes this fiction and media so awesome will never be incorporated by Disney, they will micromanage and scrap everything Dave has tried to bring into Star Wars now, it's just the way they are

    • @dalic24
      @dalic24 Рік тому +1

      ​@@patrickmacasaet3493Dave salami is the problem not the solution. Ahsoka has bin watched by shills and braindead people like star war's theory. The show has prefomed worse then andor so stop thinking he is any good.

  • @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
    @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 Рік тому +4

    You have awoken my passion for Star wars again and I just can't thank you enough!

  • @wesleyarcher7673
    @wesleyarcher7673 4 місяці тому +2

    I feel like these episodes of the clone wars is like A Christmas Carol

  • @CharlieHepp
    @CharlieHepp Рік тому +3

    Thanks for all the SW content over the last few years. I’m a Class of 77 SW fan and can no longer stomach to watch any commentary on Disney SW. However, your videos about Lucas SW will always be appreciated. May the Force be with Star Wars. It needs it right now. You have awoken my passion for Star Wars again and I can't thank you enough! So the question is does Abeloth call to Baylon or is it the fountains of power and knowledge he seeks? You know, I wonder if Anakin Skywalker had reached his full potential let’s say by first, going to the wellspring of life, and then going to mortise learning everything and absorbing every knowledge of those two places I bet he could become much stronger and powerful surpassing those four gods combined becoming the Strongest, most powerful force user ever of all time in history was a wrong show about it okay All this personification of the Force is really baffling. I don't think even Lucas had thought of this, to produce pantheons for his Force, able to infect people with their Force types through bites, and all of that jazz. Can't wait to see the Star Wars franchise go the route of the MCU if they keep these fantasies up 👀 The mortis arc is about the force. Baylon's purpose to me seems to end the force... not balance it. He wants to end the inevitable cycle when light and dark exist. Abeloth from what we know would do anything to defend the son and daughter and it makes sense if she's there to defend against Baylon destroying them. A separate theory would be... Anakin is gone... is the father calling him to propose him being the one? Sometimes it’s sad knowing that none of this is going to happen. And it will be lackluster like everything else Disney has created. Maybe it's been a while since I have seen the episodes but It just came to me. If Anakin is shown the future where he turns to the Darkside, why does he decide to join the son and go to the Darkside to avoid it? That seems to make no sense The story of The Ones and Abaloth continues to confuse me. I thought that the father, son, and daughter, were created by George and Dave during the Clone Wars. But it appears that Abeloth was plaguing Luke and his new Jedi Order in Legends. So, did George already create the ones before the Clone Wars? Or did he and Dave adapt the story by removing Abeloth in the Mortis arc? Or, was Abeloth created in some legends material after the Clone Wars Mortis arc, and just before Disney bought Lucasfilm. Or, lastly, is Abeloth's connection with the ones just a fan-created theory due to their insane power status and coincidences in their stories. I have to do some research so don't hold me to my ignorance lol. I'm just hoping I can get some clarity before I go digging through legends and canon material. I like the Ashoka series, but a lot of these references in the series go past me as I haven't watched the anime, only the movies. So these videos are great! If they give us Abeloth she needs to be a lovecraft shapeshifting monster of gargantuan size. I want to see her grabbing imperial Star Destroyers out of the sky and throwing them around like toys. Thank you for informing us I never knew or heard these stories The Books with Abaloth is definitely in the top 5 books If Lucas's film is smart and Dave Filoni is allowed, they could technically make a new sequel trilogy with the use of the world between worlds. The original still exists but another timeline can be made, and perhaps balance can be found with a proper sequel trilogy. It perhaps is only a dream yet I'd like to believe with Filoni there is a chance. welp, I don't have to go back and watch the 3 others, watched the father one > and the rest are on my watch later. good to see you covering this it's so important I feel. wish we had more than 8 episodes 15 a season tho! I saw a Theory that Shin Hati is going to be the canon Mara Jade in the Heir Of The Empire movie and I love that idea. SWT: “And then the two made peace with one another.” The Son: “And so you have betrayed me, Father.” 😅😅😅😅😅I still highly believe that Anakin is a mortal god, and if not that, then he a celestial Great video as always, Theory 👏🏻👏🏻You probably already mentioned this. Maybe in this video but my brothers think between all the force users in the other galaxy and Anakin we will get a modern version of the Trinity plus one. Theory never fails to fill us up with content. In 58 Minutes like in the episode really is not done yet okay thanks for you guys telling me more about it so let me know I am not posting it so you miss something in episodes 16 and 14 episode which is about his son returning to come back he is dying his father was sad he had a heart attack in that episode 15 I saw okay about her Daughter really him as he was gone I seen it before okay thanks. The next story next episode 16 ending the full next year in 2026 in season 9 episode 1 starting with OBI-WAN KENOBI! in season 5

  • @DatMentalGamer
    @DatMentalGamer Рік тому +1

    Ahsoka out here making me like Clone Wars more

  • @TechtodaProductions
    @TechtodaProductions Рік тому +3

    I've seen that Abaloth pic somewhere else before yet I never knew who it was. That's awesome. Mortis and the force weilders are my favorite star wars lore save for kotor.

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344 Рік тому +1

    Cool Video idea, Star Wars Theory! Been a fan for a while now, glad to be here. Also, if I may... I'd like to challenge your Star Wars "Theory."
    Overall, seeing them as aspects and not actual "sides" of the Force is, I believe, the proper way of looking at them.
    The Son and Daughter aren't the "Dark and Light Side" respectively, they're just representing the different aspects of the Force.
    A Wolf doesn't kill to be evil or malicious, it does it to survive. Meaning, it's not using the Dark Side, like what the Sith do. This is what the Son represents: the aggressiveness, the passion, the will, the strength that people often need to live.
    The Daughter is the complete opposite of course. She's the more selfless, nurturing, defensive parts of life. The way people must act when in regards to kids and to their communities.
    The Father never pleaded the Son to "abandon the Dark Side", cause the Son was never a Master of the Dark Side in the first place. He fell to the Dark Side when he suddenly sought power beyond his due. When he sought supremacy, and manipulation, and accidentally killed his Sister (which ended up being his version of the Sith Sacrifice to steep him into the Dark)... that all dipped him into unbalance.
    The Dark Side isn't part of the Balance, it's a corruption of the force. In the end, he was repentant, so I imagine he likely ascended in death with his family, and probably didn't end up in "Chaos", were Sith souls usually go too.

  • @KMMK2371
    @KMMK2371 Рік тому +1

    Amazing video!!! Thank you so much for an excellent, detailed breakdown of this wonderful story! 💜 Ever thought about being on the Calm app? We could listen to these stories all night!

  • @drakkoris7083
    @drakkoris7083 Рік тому +3

    If Lucas film is smart and Dave Filoni is allowed, they could technically make a new sequel trilogy with the use of the world between worlds. The original still existing but another timeline can be made, and perhaps balance can be found with a proper sequel trilogy. It perhaps is only a dream yet I'd like to believe with Filoni there is a chance.

  • @Jungoguy
    @Jungoguy Рік тому +8

    I thought Sidious was bad, but Abeloth is A MONSTER

    • @thaynetarbox
      @thaynetarbox Рік тому

      til luke throws a black hole at her

    • @Grey11s
      @Grey11s Рік тому +1

      @@thaynetarbox
      Luke was WILDING in Legends oml

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 Рік тому +1

    This is very nice. Great compliation. Confrontation of the Son and Anakin with Sidious sounds great and would be great video😁 Watched for 23 mins. The Force will be with you too,always 😊

  • @blazimus_studios
    @blazimus_studios Рік тому +4

    The daughter transferred some of her essence when she drained ahsoka of the dark side and so ahsoka is the embodiment of the light side of the force morai is the daughter's symbol it's actually seen in the mortis arc too

    • @yasininn76
      @yasininn76 Рік тому

      I don't think that's true at all. Ahsoka white sabers have a meaning, and it is of someone who just follows the will of the force, as a whole. Neither the good or bad side

  • @AV8R_Surge
    @AV8R_Surge Рік тому +1

    I remember reading (audio books) Fate of the Jedi, but most of the story escaped me. This was a nice recap of Abeloth.

  • @Omosisthefuture
    @Omosisthefuture Рік тому +2

    Spark notes version. The Mortis gods were the living embodiment of different aspects of the force
    Son- dark side- mostly evil- last seen stabbed and probably killed by anakin
    Daughter (morai) light side- good- She was unintentionally stabbed and killed by the son. She is now a spirit bird linked to ahsoka after she restored Ahsoka’s life.
    Father- balance- neutral I guess-last seen stabbed by himself in a sacrifice to kill the son. He is probably dead.
    These 3 are officially canon.
    Legends
    Mother-Abeloth-chaos- I’d say she was chaotic evil. She possibly died in legends. She is not confirmed to be canon at this time, but she would easily fit into the role of being the one Baylan is looking for.

  • @bacaawesomerorie2788
    @bacaawesomerorie2788 Рік тому +345

    What if Toby maugire Spider-Man was in Ironman 2008

    • @Jay.Lombardii
      @Jay.Lombardii Рік тому +23

      Easily considered the best Ironman of the series if that happened

    • @darthnutsack6717
      @darthnutsack6717 Рік тому +27

      Tobey shouldve been the one to snap thanos

    • @xm26legend31
      @xm26legend31 Рік тому +2

      Sick

    • @luket3452
      @luket3452 Рік тому

      What if your mother swallowed?

    • @tsivilsඞ
      @tsivilsඞ Рік тому +45

      Interesting video to leave this comment on...but ok

  • @manosbaroulakis9446
    @manosbaroulakis9446 Рік тому +3

    You should call her the mother, fits with their theme

  • @Twinsuns2187
    @Twinsuns2187 Рік тому +2

    Ayyyyyy good morning errrybody!

  • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
    @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Рік тому +1

    I saw a Theory that Shin Hati is going to be the canon Mara Jade in the Heir Of The Empire movie and I love that idea.

  • @Otsutsuki-san
    @Otsutsuki-san Рік тому +4

    I still highly believe that anakin is a mortis god, and if not that, then a celestial

  • @NapsterRulez
    @NapsterRulez Рік тому +3

    I like the Ashoka series, but a lot of these references in the serie goes past me as I haven't watched the anime, only the movies. So these videos are great!

    • @christinearmington
      @christinearmington Рік тому

      I had to go back and binge watch Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch. I never expected animation to be so moving. Great voice acting and gorgeous music tracks.

  • @TetsuShima
    @TetsuShima Рік тому +1

    37:18
    Ngl, it's quite funny to compare the appearance of Caedus and Kylo. While Jacen's is very reminiscent of Han, Leia and Anakin, Ben's makes Watto look like Anakin's father in comparison. 😂😂😂

  • @AnimeOtakuDrew
    @AnimeOtakuDrew Рік тому

    I've read Fate of the Jedi, but it has been years. I had completely forgotten about Abeloth's connection to the Father, Son, and Daughter. Might be worth pulling my old Star Wars novels out of storage and rereading them.

  • @pawpeechulosits
    @pawpeechulosits Рік тому +1

    Listened to the whole thing thanks!

  • @d1ckmorningwood4689
    @d1ckmorningwood4689 Рік тому +1

    I believe it was originally intended by George for the Father, Son, & Daughter to NOT play a significant role going forward after the Mortis Arc. The Force was out of balance due to the actions of the Sith in the galaxy at large. This caused the Son’s increase in power making it too hard for the Father to contain the son. They were there to keep the force in balance (it’s specifically said that they are anchorites) With the daughter’s death, then the Father’s sacrifice, so Anakin could finish off the son, it TEMPORARILY brought the force back into balance. The veil of the dark side was very much still there, but it tilted the axis back into balance giving the Jedi a chance to make things right. This was until Anakin’s betrayal in Palpatine’s office which threw it out of balance once again, and would stay tilted towards the dark side, until the events of ROTJ.
    On a separate note, the Ones May be God-Like, but they are not Gods. Also people, Abeloth is strictly legends and if she was meant to be, she would be in the Mortis Arc (but she isn’t).
    Let me know your thoughts, I’m curious...

  • @jacksonyon5276
    @jacksonyon5276 Рік тому +1

    Wow theory knew even back then that we would see the ones someday again and now we have seen them again in the ahsoka finale

  • @Cheiff117
    @Cheiff117 Рік тому

    welp, guess i dont have to go back and watch the 3 others, watched the father one > the rest are in my watch later.
    good to see you covering this its so important i feel. wish we had more than 8 episodes a season tho !

  • @YayoHernandez-b1j
    @YayoHernandez-b1j Рік тому +2

    You know, I wonder if Anakin Skywalker had reached his full potential let’s say by first, going to the wellspring of life, and then going to mortis learning everything absorbing every knowledge of those two places I bet he could become much more stronger and powerful surpassing those four gods combined becoming the Strongest, most powerful force user ever of all time in history

  • @claimedlizard3209
    @claimedlizard3209 Рік тому

    I like to think he doesn’t blink constantly when he does the voiceover

  • @thiagooliveira5235
    @thiagooliveira5235 Рік тому

    Very interesting story, specially when Luke shows up. But if used in live action canon, it could either lead to an incredibly remarkable Star Wars or it could completely disfigure what Star Wars is to most people, specially when we talk about Abeloth's story, which is something mostly hardcore fans are familiar with, even though it is very interesting.
    I think the only way that can work is if they kept a balance between the amount of mysticism and the natural or more "grounded" work. In my understanding, Star Wars has both, but in balance.
    I think it has room to go even further into the mystic/spiritual, as Ahsoka has shown(at least it had shown me), so I think there's a way to introduce Abeloth, but since she is almost unreasonably powerful in legends and she has a lot of dedicated fans, I find that it wouldn't be respectful to those fans to just add her in there ultra nerfed just to fit the universe. I guess that's also the real reason why Dave didn't include Starkiller anywhere yet. He's insanely powerful to the point of being almost impossible to integrate in live action canon or even the animations without having to shake the entire structure of the franchise. Unless the fans are willing to negotiate 😂"Okay, nerf my guy, just not too much".
    The same with Abeloth. I think she's an incredibly interesting character and I would want to see her in canon, but I know there's no way she'll be that crazy powerful.
    I mean, Star Wars is literally a culture in itself, it's not really just "part of culture". So if you want to introduce extremely different things that would shake the franchise that people are used to the live action movies and animations, you'd have to literally change the CULTURE of Star Wars and that is extremely hard to do and you'd first have to ask yourself why. KK tried changing Star Wars culture artificially and shot her own foot.😂 It's too many years, man, you can't just do that bionically.
    Why did most people (including me), react(at first in my case)like somebody cut the power supply of your TV while you were watching the final game of your preferred sport competition in that Sabine strong in the force scene? the answer is simple: because that happened too quickly, like "from off to on". Of course Sabine trained a lot, but you know that saying, "show, don't tell". Yes, we saw Sabine training too, but her screen time where she's shown slowly getting there was non-existent; that would have made a TREMENDOUS difference in those scenes, specially the one where she throws Ezra. Actually at least ONE little scene where she at least moves something a little bit, would have made a huge difference in selling the scenes in episode 8. Nobody would be shocked. Why? Because that was going to be, even if not expected, still way more believable. The only way we make it believable is when we keep in mind the presupposition that the show makes that she's been training a lot. That's why the second time I watched episode 8, I liked that scene way more, I even felt goosebumps, and of course the music is maybe more than 60% of the scene. The Force theme is ridiculously spiritual and one of the most beautiful music maybe ever in history.
    So why am I mentioning the Sabine case? Well, if anything with Abeloth and beyond will be done, it must be done with a lot of patience and care, slowly introducing the elements. Of course still maintaining the elements of surprise, but not to the point of creating a negative shock on people that will remove them from the story.
    Of course that, at least in my opinion, SHOULD take many years to get there, to the point where Star Wars culture embraces it naturally, instead of giving the feeling of an injection of foreign body.
    But most importantly, it has to have meaning and George Lucas's vision in it, otherwise it goes to the area of regular Hollywood meaningless and forgettable space battle movies that George Lucas himself once said was a result of people looking at Star Wars success at the time and thinking just having a cool sci-fi/sci-fantasy movie was enough, when Star Wars was more than just cool entertainment.
    Anyways, let's see. Great video.

  • @MrTimboman14
    @MrTimboman14 Рік тому +1

    Maybe Ezra is Abeloth in disguise like the smoke monster from LOST

  • @DaneBryantFrazier
    @DaneBryantFrazier Рік тому +2

    So stoked to see that at the end.

  • @Jason-ty2bt
    @Jason-ty2bt Рік тому +1

    There will never be a "mother" in canon. She wasn't part of the Lucas/Filoni vision of the ones. It would make no sense to retroactively bring her in, not to mention they would have to nerf her too hard.
    All there speculators and fans of the EU are going to be so disappointed, just like Marrok. Baylan is just pointing to the entrance to Mortis.

  • @CommanderTexas
    @CommanderTexas Рік тому +1

    Shin Hati looks nearly identical to illustrations of Abeloth.

  • @rello2x
    @rello2x Рік тому

    49 min..well I prolly watched majority of this over the years ig I’ll still refresh meh memory

  • @kylemacinnes9867
    @kylemacinnes9867 Рік тому +2

    I really hope Dave keeps ahsoka in this galaxy and away from the Disney canon SW

  • @AlexCitroen-zt8xv
    @AlexCitroen-zt8xv Рік тому

    A ton of people don't know about all this back stories...in short this explain Baylan standing at the edge of Mortis God fingers..this is where all the roads leads now!✌🏻 kudos to Feloni!

  • @cdchooone2554
    @cdchooone2554 Рік тому +1

    It's actually Gondor calling for aide.

  • @jackson-wadden
    @jackson-wadden Рік тому

    I cant believe my boy even theroriesed that he would make all of the videos into one!

  • @pnlester
    @pnlester Рік тому +2

    Anakin force ghost looked really sad at the end of Ashoka. Almost mournful. Does that mean something bad coming for her?

  • @christopherbaker275
    @christopherbaker275 Рік тому

    Thank you for informing us I never knew or heard these stories

  • @statisticallysound
    @statisticallysound Рік тому

    Awesome video, thanks for putting them all together SWT!

  • @nrgao
    @nrgao Рік тому +1

    Why does the Father statue look like the Ice King from Adventure Time? lol not JakeLan Skoll and Finn Hati lol

  • @HarbingerofHyol940
    @HarbingerofHyol940 Рік тому +1

    Pleaaaseee make a video on The Son and Anakin confronting Sidious!

  • @jellylight5287
    @jellylight5287 Рік тому +6

    I think abeloth is the mother and maybe was consumed by “dark force energy” or something and became who she is.
    Now obviously they would have had to lock her away so maybe she made the witches and mortis had to flee because of that.
    Baylon is going to set her free and I think he will die in that scene Ashoka and Sabine will be training and I think somehow they will get back and abeloth might even just show up somehow or something like that.

  • @Dad_K
    @Dad_K Рік тому

    Could've used a bit of snipping and editing, but an awesome compilation. Thank you!

  • @Good_Gravy
    @Good_Gravy Рік тому

    Glad I watched this one all the way through

  • @tlessa8412
    @tlessa8412 Рік тому +1

    I think there’s a general consensus that Anakin could’ve been taken back into the Star Wars saga.
    Specially after his appearance in the world between worlds with Ahsoka.

  • @SpaceViking2000
    @SpaceViking2000 Рік тому

    You probably already mentioned this. Maybe in this video but my brothers thinks between all the force users in the other galaxy and Anakin we will get a modern version of the trinity plus one.

  • @AlexCitroen-zt8xv
    @AlexCitroen-zt8xv Рік тому

    I'm so glad you make this video..to explain in short

  • @NathanRohr
    @NathanRohr Рік тому

    Dude. Seeing a Jedi and a Sith fighting TOGETHER against a common enemy would be SO SICK. Galaxies ahead of the best part of the sequels (whatever that is).

  • @dylanwastakenwasalsotaken
    @dylanwastakenwasalsotaken Рік тому

    that corner subscribe thing got me 🤣💀

  • @MacauleyB22
    @MacauleyB22 Рік тому

    The Son & Qui-Gon watching Reva & Sabine survive being impaled by a lightsaber

  • @probsbobs2020
    @probsbobs2020 Рік тому

    Thanks for this. I was searching for these.

  • @PakaShreds
    @PakaShreds Рік тому

    This is such an epic review. You sir are legendary

  • @likeluptid
    @likeluptid 2 місяці тому

    I don't know why no one is catching this. If you've seen Star Wars, the entire Mortis trilogy should be very, very familiar to you. Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan, from the moment they stepped outside of their ship onto the Mortis planet until they returned to normal spacetime in their ship, were participants in a prophetic drama regarding the prophecy of the Chosen One. The events of all 3 episodes replay the events seen from the beginning of The Phantom Menace until the end of "Return of the Jedi." The Father is Jedi High Council. The Daughter is the Jedi Order. The Son is the Sith Order. Mortis and its ever changing climate is the galaxy as it's affected by Orders wielding the Force. The Daughter and Son TOGETHER affect the climate of the Mortis planet. Life and death, day and night, spring and fall, etc . . . Whenever the Son and Daughter fight each other, the Father stops them immediately, to prevent one from prevailing over the other. That's how he keeps "maintaining balance" between the Son and Daughter.
    "The Phantom Menace" begins with a threat localized to Naboo that's already appearing to be ominous for the whole galaxy. Qui-Gon Jinn meets Anakin on Tatooine and wonders about his identity as the Chosen One. He immediately decides to take Anakin to Jedi High Council, and along the way, Qui-Gon is suddenly attacked, but thanks to Anakin winning a podrace earlier, their ship has been repaired and can get them out of harm's way. Afterward, Qui-Gon identifies his attacker as belong to the Sith Order. This is exactly how the first Mortis episode begins. Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan keep on noticing the environment and climate of Mortis, and its quickly changing season. The Daughter approaches Anakin, wondering about his identity as the Chosen One, then immediately wants to take him to her Father. On the way, she's nearly injured by a rockslide. Anakin saves her. Afterward, she identifies her attacker as being her brother.
    The most recognizable part, in my opinion, is when 3 or 4 members of Jedi High Council tell Palpatine that they know he's Sith, and they've come to arrest him. But the arrest goes wrong, ending in the death of present Jedi Council members. Palpatine immediately has the Jedi Order destroyed by its own weapon, the Clone Army. Without the Jedi Order, there is only the Sith influencing the galaxy, a yin without the yang; thus an imbalance in the Force is created. "Dark times for the galaxy" stretch on for about 24 years afterward by means of the Sith's Empire. Again, this is exactly what happens in "Altar of Mortis." The Father approaches his Son, saying, 'You're Sith, I gotta stop you.' The Son immediately incapacitate the Father. Then the Son mortally wounds the Daughter with her own weapon, the dagger of Mortis. The planet becomes devoid of the influence of the Daughter, remaining dark at all times by the dark side influence of the Son. This is the imbalance in the Force that the prophecy is alluding to.
    In a very unexpected, very sudden, very swift move, Anakin has already mortally wounded the Son. This restores balance to the Force, now that BOTH, the light side and the dark side are without an Order channeling the Force. The exact thing is seen at the end of Return of the Jedi. The Father had at first mistakenly thought the prophecy was implying that he would be replaced. Without foreknowledge that his Daughter would die, he had no way of understanding the prophecy until after it was fulfilled. As he was dying, realizing what had just happened, he understood the prophecy for the first time. He told Anakin that he really is the Chosen One; he has fulfilled the prophecy. [Anakin had not replaced anyone, yet the prophecy's fulfillment was complete.] After the Father acknowledged his new understanding of the prophecy, all of Mortis crumbled into nothing, ceasing to exist when the prophecy's fulfillment was complete.
    Surely, you recognized in "Altar of Mortis," that Ahsoka was imprisoned due to a Sith plot. Soon, she "died" from life in the Jedi Order. Years later, she was "resurrected" to the lifestyle of a Jedi, becoming the legacy of the dead Jedi Order. I skipped over a whole lot, but everything you see in the Mortis episodes, you're already familiar with. The Father is Jedi High Council, the Daughter is the Jedi Order. The Son is the Sith Order. Mortis is the galaxy.

  • @rezskywalker2155
    @rezskywalker2155 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Theory! I love your lore videos. Been a sub for awhile, but never commented before. This changes today lol. Much love.

  • @arthurreede4478
    @arthurreede4478 Рік тому

    The Ones are like Tom Bombadil. Nobody really knows but everyone agrees they're an enigma of force

  • @21thahomie
    @21thahomie Рік тому

    Looks like Enoch's face in the new Loki season 2 opener. I swear it's even made out of gold. How strange

  • @Beforezzz
    @Beforezzz Рік тому +1

    The Lord of the Star: The Fellowship of the Wars

  • @hi_im_sota
    @hi_im_sota Рік тому

    These were my favorite videos when they released!

  • @captaintalking1646
    @captaintalking1646 Рік тому

    I would also love a fan fic about what if Ezra didn‘t pull out Ashoka. Ashoka would die, Palps in the World between Worlds … :3

  • @thatstarwarsshow
    @thatstarwarsshow Рік тому

    Still here towards the end. I have these books. Haven't read them yet

  • @Cyber_Productions1998
    @Cyber_Productions1998 Рік тому

    I wonder if because the son wasn't stabbed by the dagger that he was able to live even if in spirit form. So maybe that's how he will live on, and with your theory of Baylan skoll who chases the sun or son here in this story.

  • @Chris-qr1io
    @Chris-qr1io Рік тому +6

    If they give us Abeloth she needs to be a lovecraft shapeshifting monster of gargantuan size . I want to see her grabbing imperial Star Destroyers out of the sky and throwing them around like toys .

  • @tanahansen7919
    @tanahansen7919 Рік тому

    still with you. Super helpful info, as always Theory!

  • @andrewc31394
    @andrewc31394 Рік тому

    I know this video is a mashup of several others, but it sounds like the first two are almost identical

  • @FalconWing1813
    @FalconWing1813 Рік тому

    Man I did not know about those books , Great Story!

  • @CE77777
    @CE77777 Рік тому

    36:28 Exactly what she’s doing to Baylen now

  • @Next2Null
    @Next2Null Рік тому

    Lmao, im not sure if Thoery ever made a "Anakin & Son VS Sidious" video. But I'd love to see Sidious get bodied that hard☠️

  • @xinfr4z893
    @xinfr4z893 Рік тому

    Great video as always, Theory 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @miletello1
    @miletello1 Рік тому +2

    Anyone else wonder why 3 powerful Jedi and the daughter of mortis couldn’t just use the force to clear the rocks off the path? Or the daughter could have just transformed into a griffin and carried Obi Wan and Ashoka around.
    Also, if the ones are immortal, why was the father looking for a replacement to control his children?
    And lastly, why did the son try to kill the father if the fathers death stripped him of his power?

    • @refurbishedtechpriest9076
      @refurbishedtechpriest9076 Рік тому +1

      Because the whole concept isn't as well thought-out as folks want to believe it is.

    • @TeemoForLife
      @TeemoForLife Рік тому

      Father said he is dying so he isn't immortal

  • @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864
    @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864 Рік тому +10

    Could the “coffins” Thrawn was having loaded in the ship be the lost Jedi Abeloth had captured? She removed their minds but their lifeless bodies could have been stored to use as an army?

    • @VortexFromFire
      @VortexFromFire Рік тому +2

      Think it’s more likely just other night sisters that they gonna bring back to revive the night sisters as a whole.

    • @bongzilla4172
      @bongzilla4172 Рік тому +3

      @@VortexFromFire Which is why the first planet the go to is Dathomir too. Don't think there's anything else it could be honestly.

    • @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864
      @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864 Рік тому +3

      @@VortexFromFire i agree but what if 😂. That would be tight

    • @frederickmontpetit8860
      @frederickmontpetit8860 Рік тому +2

      The coffins kind of look like what the Mandos hold Maul captive in in the finale episodes of TCW.

  • @airyshark324
    @airyshark324 Рік тому

    I be down for videos covering all abeloth books

  • @LukiKruki
    @LukiKruki Рік тому

    What a guy. He retells the Mortis arc three times in the video while not explaining the origins of the characters neither what they really mean in the context George Lucas said years ago. Their definition is very simple yet very deep. The in-universe holiday Day of Life is connected to it while Abeloth is the missing piece of the Family. She's the opposite of Father, just like Daughter is the opposite of Son yet all of them together are the forces of the universe, the life and death, the right and wrong.

  • @felixcote1697
    @felixcote1697 Рік тому

    Thats pretty cool and interestimg stuff, *but what about more scenes with those crab people tho?*

  • @TheSirTomo
    @TheSirTomo Рік тому +1

    You told the exact same story for Father as Son for 8 minutes from 13:29 too 21:48 lol

    • @nwing07__
      @nwing07__ Рік тому

      he's been using chatGPT... really low effort to make videos. He did this on the Thrawn Anakin relationship video too he did a few days ago.

  • @loganbarnette3486
    @loganbarnette3486 Рік тому

    Morning theory, it’s Logan from NC

  • @jdad9764
    @jdad9764 Рік тому

    The books with abaloth is definitely in the top 5 of the books

  • @brettbadac4970
    @brettbadac4970 Рік тому

    In my opinion, I thought Ahsoka was pretty good overall. I wished certain things would have happened and that OT characters would have appeared. I still enjoyed the show. There are still more projects coming. I feel that Luke, Han, and Leia will appear eventually. I'm looking forward to seeing what is calling to Baylan (probably either the Son or Abeloth). They will recast the character to continue that storyline.

  • @TheeJonesss
    @TheeJonesss Рік тому

    I feel like one of the biggest downfalls of anakin is the father erasing his memory forgetting his future if they had just turned him back to the light right there then I’m willing to bet he never would of fallen again

  • @codyosborne5892
    @codyosborne5892 Рік тому +2

    You say they’re immortal, yet the father was weakened with age?

  • @rl2338
    @rl2338 Рік тому

    The son is the dark side just like Dooku or Palpatine. They will speak with truths to get your attention (IE Dooku telling Obi Wan that Palpatine is the Sith lord when they are on Geonosis, and Palpatine speaking with Anakin about the Jedi and their philosophy's) and then speak with lies to manipulate you to for their own goals. Padme was a major reason for Anakin's downfall, but not to the point she would of needed to be killed. Padme was a way to control Anakin, Palpatine and The Son both realized this and used it to their advantage to gain power over him.

  • @caramelconundrum9280
    @caramelconundrum9280 Рік тому +3

    Honestly, I think I’m gonna leave this stuff out of my head canon. It’s goofy.

    • @DarthTalon66
      @DarthTalon66 Рік тому

      Haha

    • @dilwitchspahlin4761
      @dilwitchspahlin4761 Рік тому +3

      Bruh it’s Star Wars. If you think the OG trilogy isn’t goofy as all hell, you need to take your nostalgia goggles off

    • @caramelconundrum9280
      @caramelconundrum9280 Рік тому +2

      @@dilwitchspahlin4761 Star Wars has always been grounded in a futuristic sci fi setting, regardless of its mystical concepts. These god like beings ruling over the force and ultimately being what drove Anakin to the DS is silly and over explained. That’s just my opinion tho.

    • @dilwitchspahlin4761
      @dilwitchspahlin4761 Рік тому

      @@caramelconundrum9280 did you even watch the Mortis arc? Anakin literally gets his memory wiped, so no, it didn’t cause him to fall to the Dark Side. Also, in a world of space wizards who wield the Force, (an all powerful energy that permeates throughout the whole galaxy and connects everything somehow) is it really so far fetched for god-like beings to exist too?

    • @caramelconundrum9280
      @caramelconundrum9280 Рік тому

      @@dilwitchspahlin4761I have no problem with gods being a thing; just the execution of the concept. But you know what? It’s been a long time since I watched clone wars so I’m gonna rewatch the mortis episodes and revisit my stance.

  • @choppaa4204
    @choppaa4204 Рік тому

    I thought you were gonna do the disney channel thing in the corner there 😂

  • @Michiaaron
    @Michiaaron Рік тому

    My question is why should there be statues of the ones, pointing to a Shimmering place if it's not the prison of Abeloth. Otherwise it could be a portal to the world between worlds

  • @TheOne-zn1bd
    @TheOne-zn1bd Рік тому

    I think the actual meaning of the word Mortis, brings a deeper meaning, especially when putting it in the context of star wars & the force. Mortis, to remove, make a hole or notch, to await something added or joined to make it a stronger part of something else!!!! Given the Mortis Gods statues on Perridia is this what Baylon is trying to do. Also was Anakin the wanted part to be joined in the Mortis to make it stronger as part of something else. Remember in Rebels the Mortis realm was literally a hole in the rest of the Galaxy. Maybe im going a bit too literal & meta here but is Filoni the person to fill the Mortis hole & make star wars something stronger and more than it was😮?

  • @anakinskywalker1509
    @anakinskywalker1509 Рік тому +1

    Jesus loves you guys so much