Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series: Part 1 - Unboxing: ua-cam.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/v-deo.html Part 2 - Component Selection: ua-cam.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/v-deo.html Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: ua-cam.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/v-deo.html Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: ua-cam.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/v-deo.html Part 5 - Scale Details & Full Flight: ua-cam.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/v-deo.html Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : ua-cam.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/v-deo.html
John, You always continue to impress me with your level knowledge and expertise on this hobby. I love it! 15 years ago we never had anything like your channel to enjoy. THANK YOU!
Awesome John - awsomee! Just about to embark on a Bell 222 Scale fuselage but then the Roban Apache. Luv your channel - i have my own. It's baby.....but it's mine.
Great job! Yeah, had plenty of change your underwear moments for me too. But that's what adds enjoyment to this hobby. Nice heli. Where can I buy a heli like that? LoL , just kidding. I know the frustration. Beautiful , enjoy.
I fell in love with scale flying about a year ago, and have gotten my first heli. It needs some fine tuning by someone more qualified than myself(for now). It's an Align T-rex 450 Pro, and it has some nice electronics with it, and I am excited to get going. Very interesting build and love the EC130!
Man just watched this video and wow that is a thing of beauty and you built it well nice man what an absolutely amazing build sweet man it's an amazing helicopter we'll nice and even more hats of to you on the build well nice super job m8 👍
Thanks the kind feedback and thanks for watching. I do also have a final fully finished flight video out at the flying field if you were curious how the finished heli turned out with big sky flying: ua-cam.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/v-deo.html
John you have done it again. This Heli Sounds great and very smooth, it looks Fantastic and a Superb build overall! I can't believe that the Cabin floor cleared the batteries... Sensational Build once again, btw I expect no less from you! Tipping the scales at 20 LBS, no John I've never flown a 10 Pin Bowling Ball. lol. The Goosky is a terrific little Heli, I think you will really like it! Stay Safe and Healthy my friend.
John you did it again.I can see your love for the great hobby.Everything you always doing is perfect finnisch the job,no shortcuts.The music you selected saying it all. Good luck….
What does that helicopter cost, and where do you get them from that's so big?? I've had poor experience with obtaining one and one that flies-sign disappointed! If you build and sell, let me know what you charge??
greetings from the other side of the Atlantic ocean John and congratulations on a successful maiden of this beautiful bird. Thanks for letting us watch the progress and thanks for giving me a BIG LAUGH at 09:57min in the Video. („…shit hitting the fan…“ -priceless! 🤣) Cheers Ruedi
I like that way to build models, neat and tidy ! Great works ! I have a question regarding receiver positioning , I saw that u place the receiver antenna at the font of the frame, have u check the RSSI and VFR % when the heli is flying away from u , will the carbon frame and mechanics cause signal drop ?
Hi Peter, The RX antennas are actually at the back of the frame mounted to the FBL gyro plate (shown in the build video ua-cam.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/v-deo.html around time index 8:45). RX antenna positioning is always a compromise and a deep topic - way too much to cover in a simple YT comment response. I have a full page on my website covering it in detail: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-antenna.html To answer your question however, I always do range checks with any model and most certainly this one. Like all of them, I'll lose practical visual range long before RF control range regardless of orientation.
Very nice! I WAS kinda anti Fenestron for an RC heli since I haven't seen that many positives about reviews on them, at least with the Roban models, anyway. Your positive experience with this model has me considering the possibility of picking up one for my next heli purchase.
I have been looking to get into scale helicopters, but I have no experience with building. Is there a specific model you would recommend for a beginner, or maybe some advice on how to start learning a build like this?
You first learn on Pod & boom (you never mentioned how much experience you have flying collective pitch RC helicopters). You can't learn to fly a larger collective pitch heli on scale (too fragile, to heavy and too costly). If you can already fly a fairly large collective pitch heli however (500 or larger) and rarely crash, then you can progress into larger scale. I cover options and suggestions on my Scale RC Helicopter Page on my site: www.rchelicopterfun.com/scale-rc-helicopters.html As that page states, most people start with a scale fuselage that fits one of their existing Pod & Boom helicopters and slowly progress at your speed up to models like this from Roban, Vario, Alterbaum, etc.
I flew 3d helis for years but would like to build a scale heli. What kit do you use ? Do you build your own heli frame per the size of fusalauge or modify an align kit ?
Quite a lovely machine John so do you use a certain flight controller for your heli,s how do you handle altitude control ? is it all throttle or the f/c ? i know when i am training the use of throttle can be very tiring as i need to concentrate on positioning of the heli .Thanks for great video,s .
@John Blythe - I'm using the Bavarian Demon 3X flybarless system. I go over the electronics pairing in this video: ua-cam.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/v-deo.html Like all collective pitch helicopters, I control my lift vector with collective pitch only, not throttle. Throttle/head speed is fixed and governed. Only electronic flight management offered by the Bavarian Demon is cyclic stability (replaces the mechanical flybar) and of course tail gyro. 🙂
That is impossible for me to answer for the simple reason I don't know what large scale RC helicopter building and flying experience you already have. For example, I wouldn't recommend any Roban model if you haven't built and flown a larger scale heli before. All of Roban's super scale 700 & 800 series are classified as requiring advanced level building skills. If you have ample amounts of larger scale helicopter building & flying experience however, then I would suggest getting whichever Roban scale fuselage model you like the best. They all use the same basic Roban HSM mechanics platform, so they are all more or less equal in terms of mechanical quality. Of course, the more complex the mechanics (as is the case with Fenestron or angled tail drive or multi-bladed heads), the more difficult & maintenance intensive they become. As the engineering adage goes "complexity hampers both execution & reliability".
Looking good! I'm about doing the same thing... just flew it in the fuse today... my tail servo gets up 100-110F... and it's got a lil weird shimmies... like it will be holding 'okay', then do a lil kick- mains are all good, tracking balance, etc... no noticeable vibrations...
Very nice John! I'm about to start a new build soon and can't decide between the 130 and 135. Watching this is swaying me a bit toward the 130 though haha.. Keep the videos coming!
It's a Roban Super Scale 800 Kit (comes with custom mechanics and fuselage). Links are below in the video description as usual. Covered the unboxing of this kit in the unboxing video, part 1 of this build series: ua-cam.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/v-deo.html
Hallo John, Ik heb de EC 130 Sundance en gedraagt zich het zelfde in de hover als uw EC 130. Nu is het zo dat mijn 130 zich in een linker bocht bij grotere snelheid minder instuurt dan de rechter bocht. Bij een rechter bocht heeft hij veel meer effect. Is dat bij uw EC 130 ook het geval. Groeten, Leo van Dorsten
I have another video with faster flight showing the tail performance better: ua-cam.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/v-deo.html Yaw rate on mine is more or less consistent in both directions, but no question it will yaw to the right with greater ease going with the direction of the reactive torque. It's just way more efficient in that direction and won't pull as much power - just like a full size machine. I find if I run under 1100 RPM head speed, the tail response will be a little sluggish. I personally like 1150 RPM on this thing, but that is just me.
@@Rchelicopterfun Bedank voor uw reactie, ik heb ook de EC135 en EC145 van Roban,en deze hebben dat niet,maar ik vlieg de EC130 met 1250 RPM is zal proberen met 1150 RPM .
Hi john!, you have a new suscriber, love your video and the natural way you share your experience. Very useful for me due I'm on the construction proces of Roban Bo-105. Love the dummy fuselage, I go for it before any scale mouting. Thanks for your help and good flights.
Seemed most stable at 1200 rpm and to me still looking just a touch tail heavy But what a beautiful bird Really excellent job putting it together Can’t wait to see it fly all tweaked out Thanks
@@Rchelicopterfun you bet! I need to make a "Flindstone flier" rig for the Huey. I think that's a good idea before I try to mount it in the fuse. Wish I had not installed the interior first like the manual suggests. I'm gonna have to cut a hatch in the bottom to add ballast I think. Anyway. Can't wait to see more EC130 flights! My brother flies that exact bird in Las Vegas and I got to go up with him last summer. Lots of fun.
Man this is really awesome. I'd love to have something like this but you and others are making it seem like I need some sort of degree to operate. Yalls perfection is kinda killing it for people.
Roban EC130 800 RC Helicopter Build Series:
Part 1 - Unboxing: ua-cam.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/v-deo.html
Part 2 - Component Selection: ua-cam.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/v-deo.html
Part 3 - Building Mechanics, Setup & Test Flight: ua-cam.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/v-deo.html
Part 4 - Fitting Mechanics & Maiden Flight: ua-cam.com/video/NocHFV8f90c/v-deo.html
Part 5 - Scale Details & Full Flight: ua-cam.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/v-deo.html
Part 6 - Scale Pilot & Dialed In Flight : ua-cam.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/v-deo.html
It's so good to know that there is a person that knows the only appropriate music to play is classical.
John, You always continue to impress me with your level knowledge and expertise on this hobby. I love it! 15 years ago we never had anything like your channel to enjoy. THANK YOU!
🙂
Congrats! Such a beautiful model so cool to see it fly. Well done
1:40 press the Min Max button on your Fluke and it'll capture the peak current draw for you!
Awesome John - awsomee! Just about to embark on a Bell 222 Scale fuselage but then the Roban Apache. Luv your channel - i have my own. It's baby.....but it's mine.
Thanks & have fun with your scale build.
Great job! Yeah, had plenty of change your underwear moments for me too. But that's what adds enjoyment to this hobby. Nice heli. Where can I buy a heli like that? LoL , just kidding. I know the frustration. Beautiful , enjoy.
Yes - spoken (written) by another enthusiast that understands this hobby.
Is it just me, or were there only 11 beeps when the flight packs were connected on the bench? Shouldn't there be 12 for the 12S setup?
Hmmm, not just you - that is all I hear as well. Will have to look into that.
As always enjoy your videos and learn something new every time👍. Best regards, Jim
Thank you! Cheers!
I fell in love with scale flying about a year ago, and have gotten my first heli. It needs some fine tuning by someone more qualified than myself(for now). It's an Align T-rex 450 Pro, and it has some nice electronics with it, and I am excited to get going. Very interesting build and love the EC130!
Man just watched this video and wow that is a thing of beauty and you built it well nice man what an absolutely amazing build sweet man it's an amazing helicopter we'll nice and even more hats of to you on the build well nice super job m8 👍
Thanks the kind feedback and thanks for watching. I do also have a final fully finished flight video out at the flying field if you were curious how the finished heli turned out with big sky flying: ua-cam.com/video/axMc8rBeIQs/v-deo.html
@Rchelicopterfun I did watch it but on xbox but I'm not signed in on it ill watch again and give it a 👍 when I do absolutely incredible
Congratulations !! What a lovely heli and that fenestron look very cool.
hello friend I'm making one from scratch size 500 I'm demonstrating the whole step by step one look you'll like it!!!
Very cool, it even hangs slightly right skid low like the real thing!
John you have done it again. This Heli Sounds great and very smooth, it looks Fantastic and a Superb build overall! I can't believe that the Cabin floor cleared the batteries... Sensational Build once again, btw I expect no less from you! Tipping the scales at 20 LBS, no John I've never flown a 10 Pin Bowling Ball. lol.
The Goosky is a terrific little Heli, I think you will really like it! Stay Safe and Healthy my friend.
John you did it again.I can see your love for the great hobby.Everything you always doing is perfect finnisch the job,no shortcuts.The music you selected saying it all.
Good luck….
Very fun to watch. Great job. I love the look of that helicopter too its what sold me on it!
Get to the choppa! Man it does look badass in the air, and 20# isn't a pocket sized unit at all.
What does that helicopter cost, and where do you get them from that's so big?? I've had poor experience with obtaining one and one that flies-sign disappointed! If you build and sell, let me know what you charge??
I have flown in a h130 this year, it is agile and nimble as a md500 or b0105. Very impressed by the rotor A star system.
greetings from the other side of the Atlantic ocean John and congratulations on a successful maiden of this beautiful bird. Thanks for letting us watch the progress and thanks for giving me a BIG LAUGH at 09:57min in the Video. („…shit hitting the fan…“ -priceless! 🤣)
Cheers
Ruedi
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amazing model!!
Respect from a german rc guy
Hi John your Roman is beautiful. I was wondering do you know where I can find information on scratch building an 800 series helicopter.
This Helicopter is great, If I can purchase it. it is very expensive for me. It would be dream for me.
I'm a maintenance tech for the full scale version for company the of that paint scheme you went with. awesome choice!
Muito top você teve que almentar a rotação do motor sabendo que a fusilagem é pesada
I love this model, I wanna do something like this on my channel.
What cause the tail rotor wants to move to the left all the time? That's what happened to mine.
I like that way to build models, neat and tidy ! Great works !
I have a question regarding receiver positioning , I saw that u place the receiver antenna at the font of the frame, have u check the RSSI and VFR % when the heli is flying away from u , will the carbon frame and mechanics cause signal drop ?
Hi Peter, The RX antennas are actually at the back of the frame mounted to the FBL gyro plate (shown in the build video ua-cam.com/video/eDRr7n3Zq4g/v-deo.html around time index 8:45).
RX antenna positioning is always a compromise and a deep topic - way too much to cover in a simple YT comment response. I have a full page on my website covering it in detail: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-antenna.html
To answer your question however, I always do range checks with any model and most certainly this one. Like all of them, I'll lose practical visual range long before RF control range regardless of orientation.
You are so organized...scarily so. Im envious😅
I like the red helicopter in the video your working on the 130?!? Is it
Very nice scale!
Good luck from Austria!
I love big scale helis❤❤Best of the best looking machines.
Very nice! I WAS kinda anti Fenestron for an RC heli since I haven't seen that many positives about reviews on them, at least with the Roban models, anyway. Your positive experience with this model has me considering the possibility of picking up one for my next heli purchase.
Yep, certainly way better than I was expecting - so far.
Great learnings once again, really enjoying these build vids of your large scale heli, already looking forward to the next, proper shakedown vid! 😊👍
👍🙂
Nice paint job, I prefer Maverick
Houston we do not have a problem roger niner sierra bravo looking good
very impressive! love how you explain all the detail. great videos
Glad you like them 🙂
I have been looking to get into scale helicopters, but I have no experience with building. Is there a specific model you would recommend for a beginner, or maybe some advice on how to start learning a build like this?
You first learn on Pod & boom (you never mentioned how much experience you have flying collective pitch RC helicopters). You can't learn to fly a larger collective pitch heli on scale (too fragile, to heavy and too costly). If you can already fly a fairly large collective pitch heli however (500 or larger) and rarely crash, then you can progress into larger scale. I cover options and suggestions on my Scale RC Helicopter Page on my site: www.rchelicopterfun.com/scale-rc-helicopters.html
As that page states, most people start with a scale fuselage that fits one of their existing Pod & Boom helicopters and slowly progress at your speed up to models like this from Roban, Vario, Alterbaum, etc.
I flew 3d helis for years but would like to build a scale heli. What kit do you use ? Do you build your own heli frame per the size of fusalauge or modify an align kit ?
Roban kit. Full details in description and in this build series.
She's beautiful , I'd be way to nervous to fly anything that expensive,
😎👍
🙂👍
Quite a lovely machine John so do you use a certain flight controller for your heli,s how do you handle altitude control ? is it all throttle or the f/c ? i know when i am training the use of throttle can be very tiring as i need to concentrate on positioning of the heli .Thanks for great video,s .
@John Blythe - I'm using the Bavarian Demon 3X flybarless system. I go over the electronics pairing in this video: ua-cam.com/video/ycq4jW7JVao/v-deo.html
Like all collective pitch helicopters, I control my lift vector with collective pitch only, not throttle. Throttle/head speed is fixed and governed. Only electronic flight management offered by the Bavarian Demon is cyclic stability (replaces the mechanical flybar) and of course tail gyro. 🙂
hi John.....very nice Scale heli.....witch Roban model would you recommend
That is impossible for me to answer for the simple reason I don't know what large scale RC helicopter building and flying experience you already have. For example, I wouldn't recommend any Roban model if you haven't built and flown a larger scale heli before. All of Roban's super scale 700 & 800 series are classified as requiring advanced level building skills.
If you have ample amounts of larger scale helicopter building & flying experience however, then I would suggest getting whichever Roban scale fuselage model you like the best. They all use the same basic Roban HSM mechanics platform, so they are all more or less equal in terms of mechanical quality. Of course, the more complex the mechanics (as is the case with Fenestron or angled tail drive or multi-bladed heads), the more difficult & maintenance intensive they become. As the engineering adage goes "complexity hampers both execution & reliability".
Looking good! I'm about doing the same thing... just flew it in the fuse today... my tail servo gets up 100-110F... and it's got a lil weird shimmies... like it will be holding 'okay', then do a lil kick- mains are all good, tracking balance, etc... no noticeable vibrations...
Amazing machine. Congratulations. What TX/RX you using?
TX: FrSky Horus RX" FrSky X8R
hi john how stiff is you tale to move by hand
Very nice John! I'm about to start a new build soon and can't decide between the 130 and 135. Watching this is swaying me a bit toward the 130 though haha.. Keep the videos coming!
Beautiful but would be too afraid of crashing I will stick with my Blade 150S but that is very beautiful and a wonderful job building.
thats a great build, I've learned a lot from you over the years all the best keep up the good work awesome.
Thanks and happy flights 👍
R2D2, snap on tools and a 986 😎 I think I’m on the right channel
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beautiful machine. I love my Robans.
👍🙂
Awesome mate thanks for the video
jUST LOVE THAT HELI GREAT BUILD AND VIDEO CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU FLYING AT YOUR FIELD
You and me both 🙂
He’s we’re did u get all ur parts or did can u buy a T. rex 700 and use motor and rest
It's a Roban Super Scale 800 Kit (comes with custom mechanics and fuselage). Links are below in the video description as usual. Covered the unboxing of this kit in the unboxing video, part 1 of this build series: ua-cam.com/video/3qM_1fg9110/v-deo.html
Gorgeous. Is it better to put a fan on the esc,, get a larger spec esc or a larger heat sink perhaps with thermal compound?
congrats on a beautiful heli! well done. I hope to get into scale helis in the future when i mastered my 470lp
Hello friend a question I like your radio what brand is it?
FrSky
3:24 legendary 😂
Gotta love a big girl! Beautiful build, can't wait to see it completed :)
Hallo John,
Ik heb de EC 130 Sundance en gedraagt zich het zelfde in de hover als uw EC 130.
Nu is het zo dat mijn 130 zich in een linker bocht bij grotere snelheid minder instuurt dan de rechter bocht.
Bij een rechter bocht heeft hij veel meer effect.
Is dat bij uw EC 130 ook het geval.
Groeten,
Leo van Dorsten
I have another video with faster flight showing the tail performance better: ua-cam.com/video/1Grlqsldf6M/v-deo.html
Yaw rate on mine is more or less consistent in both directions, but no question it will yaw to the right with greater ease going with the direction of the reactive torque. It's just way more efficient in that direction and won't pull as much power - just like a full size machine. I find if I run under 1100 RPM head speed, the tail response will be a little sluggish. I personally like 1150 RPM on this thing, but that is just me.
@@Rchelicopterfun
Bedank voor uw reactie,
ik heb ook de EC135 en EC145 van Roban,en deze hebben dat niet,maar ik vlieg de EC130 met 1250 RPM is zal proberen met 1150 RPM .
are the fenestron blades locked down or can they led / lag a little
You just tighten them enough so they are snug and stay in place. When they are that tight, they can lead and lag as required.
Hi john!, you have a new suscriber, love your video and the natural way you share your experience. Very useful for me due I'm on the construction proces of Roban Bo-105. Love the dummy fuselage, I go for it before any scale mouting. Thanks for your help and good flights.
Thanks and welcome 👍🙂
Every one of these I ever built I struggled with the CG. Yours went pretty smooth John. Beautiful machine
Thanks
She's a good looking helicopter , very nice job !
Hell ya man very impressive
Very beautiful
Awesome informed video
Money well spent !! Superb Mr Salt....!! Hope you will do a video at dusk ( not in full darkness )with the lights and the pilot and the interior...
Yep, kinda looking forward to that myself.
Seemed most stable at 1200 rpm and to me still looking just a touch tail heavy
But what a beautiful bird
Really excellent job putting it together
Can’t wait to see it fly all tweaked out
Thanks
Yes, thanks
You have a really nice workshop...cool 🙂
I love the No Tar.
what the price sir
Such a nice bird John.
Great job.
Very nice model and build good job.
🙂
After watching this video i cant wait to build mine. Greetings from Switzerland
Hey Simon, enjoy your build and greetings back from Canada
Great job mate
Flight at 15:01
pretty cool.
Awsome build 👍🇺🇸🇨🇱✌️
Thanks for watching 🙂👍
Beautiful
Congratulations on your build John. Beautiful Bird.
Thank you kindly
Simply beautiful
Thank you - Cheers!
Wow beautiful!!
Thanks mate 😊
Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thanks for visiting
Saweeeet! Congratulations.
Thanks 👍
@@Rchelicopterfun you bet! I need to make a "Flindstone flier" rig for the Huey. I think that's a good idea before I try to mount it in the fuse. Wish I had not installed the interior first like the manual suggests. I'm gonna have to cut a hatch in the bottom to add ballast I think.
Anyway. Can't wait to see more EC130 flights! My brother flies that exact bird in Las Vegas and I got to go up with him last summer. Lots of fun.
Congrats on your new heli. Very beautiful.
Thanks mate.
John that is so cool, can’t wait to see you fly it out in the field 👍😁
Me neither 🙂
très belle réalisation bravo a toi 😍👍
👏 👏 👏 beautiful. Love it.
You fly these helicopters 🚁 so well my friend 👍
Thanks for the visit
Looking really good
Thank you - Cheers
What a nice model. You really know how to do 🙂
Thanks & Cheers
Nice 👍👍👍
Thanks for the visit
She is a great looking model, nice job
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Looks great 👍
Thanks 👍
Gorgeous bird
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Nice job
thanks
Fabulous
🙂👍
Looking great John!
Thanks 👍
Man this is really awesome. I'd love to have something like this but you and others are making it seem like I need some sort of degree to operate. Yalls perfection is kinda killing it for people.